Re: Voice Dream Reader Prob. resolved. This may help others.

[Mike Busboom]

Hi, Mary,

I took the easy way out, though everything was done through the cloud.  While 
on a visit to the States, I bought my new iPhone.  Since I needed a phone while 
there, I went to an AT&T store, and one of the people there transferred 
everything for me.  I had a lot of stuff on my system, but the entire process 
took no more than thirty minutes.

I must admit that I was very surprised to find all of my Voice Dream Reader 
books in the library.  This was not the case with books I had downloaded using 
Read2Go.  

I am very sorry that I can’t be more helpful.

Take care, Mary, and by the way, it’s good hearing from you,

Mike

> On 3,Apr,2015, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> A few days ago, I posted a note to this list in which I thought I may have 
>> encountered a bug in the latest version of Voice Dream Reader.  The problem 
>> was that I was unable to look up words in the dictionary.  
>> 
>> After writing to Voice Dream support, the issue was speedily resolved.  This 
>> may help others:
>> 
>> I had upgraded from an iPhone 4s to an iPhone 6.  When transferring all of 
>> my files, apps and settings from the older phone to the newer one, all of 
>> the books in my Voice Dream Reader library safely migrated on to my iPhone 
>> 6.  What didn’t make the trip were the dictionaries that I had downloaded.  
>> So if you migrate from one phone to another, and even if all the books 
>> appear in the Voice Dream Reader library, you’ll still need to re-download 
>> any dictionaries you wish to use.
>> 
>> I have more questions about the iPhone and Voice Dream Reader, but they can 
>> keep for another posting.
>> 
>> I hope that this helps.
>> 
>> Mike
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> On 3,Apr,2015, at 00:51, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> When you say you transferred your voice stream files from your old phone to 
> your new one, did you do it via iTunes? If not, how? I have an iPad mini that 
> has a lot of stuff on it invoice stream. But I never use iTunes to back that 
> iPad up. I have always just used the cloud, and over the air software 
> updating. I certainly don't look forward to the day when I have to replace 
> that iPad and have to re-download all that stuff. Do I have to sync my iPad 
> via iTunes to get the back up?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 8:51 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> A few days ago, I posted a note to this list in which I thought I may have 
>> encountered a bug in the latest version of Voice Dream Reader.  The problem 
>> was that I was unable to look up words in the dictionary.  
>> 
>> After writing to Voice Dream support, the issue was speedily resolved.  This 
>> may help others:
>> 
>> I had upgraded from an iPhone 4s to an iPhone 6.  When transferring all of 
>> my files, apps and settings from the older phone to the newer one, all of 
>> the books in my Voice Dream Reader library safely migrated on to my iPhone 
>> 6.  What didn’t make the trip were the dictionaries that I had downloaded.  
>> So if you migrate from one phone to another, and even if all the books 
>> appear in the Voice Dream Reader library, you’ll still need to re-download 
>> any dictionaries you wish to use.
>> 
>> I have more questions about the iPhone and Voice Dream Reader, but they can 
>> keep for another posting.
>> 
>> I hope that this helps.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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NAS questions

[jeffrey greene]

Hi, Ok first sorry for the long post! I’ve had bad luck with external hard 
drives. My 3.5 year old lacie 4tb thunderbolt is making strange noises. 
Figures, its 6 months out of warranty. So, I was considering getting a NAS 
drive. So here are my questions:
1 which brands do you guys recommend?
2 which brand is easiest to setup using VO on the mac?
3 some NAS drives advertize personal cloud functions. Is this important?
4 What capacity do you think I should get? I heard something a long time ago 
that for example an 8tb nas doesn’t have the full 8tb available.
Thanks, Jeff

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Re: menu tab

[David Taylor]

Hi,

When discussing MenuTab, please remember that all it does is show you the FB 
website, and that it can show you either version, so please specify which 
layout you mean, and try not to blame MenuTab for things that are FB’s fault. 
For instance, since I upgraded to Yosemite, on the main site, most stories say 
just middle dot instead of the person’s name. Does anybody have any idea how to 
fix this please?

Cheers
Dave

> On 2 Apr 2015, at 11:21 pm, Pablo Sandoval  wrote:
> 
> Faisal,
> What I’ve done is to click on “main menu”, and then “most recent” and that 
> seems to have the desired result.
> I hope this is what you were looking for.
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>>  Has anyone else noticed that it is no longer possible to sort news feed 
>> in menu tab?
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how do I enable first letter navigateon on web pages again

[ted phillips]

HI all.  I had to reset my voiceover preferences with the direction of Apple 
accessibility yesterday.  After this, I can no longer navigate web pages using 
one letter navigation.  Can someone tell me how to enable this again?  Thanks 
all.

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Re: how do I enable first letter navigateon on web pages again

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Ted,

Go to voiceover utility (Vo+f8) and travel down to the commanders 
category. Head to the quick nav tab and make sure the checkbox that says 
"enable single-key navigation" is checked.



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HI all.  I had to reset my voiceover preferences with the direction of Apple 
accessibility yesterday.  After this, I can no longer navigate web pages using 
one letter navigation.  Can someone tell me how to enable this again?  Thanks 
all.

Ted Phillips



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Re: how do I enable first letter navigateon on web pages again

[ted phillips]

Thanks so much.
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
> Go to voiceover utility (Vo+f8) and travel down to the commanders category. 
> Head to the quick nav tab and make sure the checkbox that says "enable 
> single-key navigation" is checked.
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2015 5:55 AM, ted phillips wrote:
>> HI all.  I had to reset my voiceover preferences with the direction of Apple 
>> accessibility yesterday.  After this, I can no longer navigate web pages 
>> using one letter navigation.  Can someone tell me how to enable this again?  
>> Thanks all.
>> 
>> Ted Phillips
>> 
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Re: how to message someone offsets here not by asking his/her email address here?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Sort of.  When in the message, press cmd-shift-h to have Mail show all the 
Header information, interact with that info then navigate through all that 
technical mumbo jumbo until you find the line that says something about 
“x-Original Sender” and the eMail address is there.  Six of one, half dozen of 
the other to know which is quicker or easier.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 3, 2015, at 00:47, Dionipher Presas Herrera  wrote:

thanks, but is there another way to do it rather than copy paste it to text 
edit? But thanks anyway
> On 02 Apr 2015, at 10:34 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Kind of a backwards way of doing things, but try this.
> 
> • When the message from this person is open.
> • Interact with the Message Header area.
> • Press cmd-a to select its contents.
> • open TextEdit.
> • press cmd-shift-t to change the format to Plain text.
> • Paste in the results of your copy.
> 
> The eMail address will be between the pointies right after their name.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 13:51, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>   Good morning to all, i would like to ask how would you email offlist by 
> not asking his/her email adress here?
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Re: Mac keeper

[Eric Oyen]

mackeeper is scare ware. you might have to clean your cached browser files and 
a few other folders to be rid of that annoying popup.

look for ONYX. download that, run it. I would suggest configuring it first 
before doing any of the tasks it has in its toolbar.

-eric

On Apr 2, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

> Hi,
> Has anyone heard of a program called mac keeper?
> Every time I try and do anything online it says my computer isn’t secure. 
> This didn’t happen until after I uninstalled handbrake.
> I really need help fixing this.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Blessings,
> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>   
> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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onyx

[Stacey Robinson]

Eric,
What kind of configuring do I need to do and is Onyx free?
Please get back to me asap if you can.
Thank you.Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

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> mackeeper is scare ware. you might have to clean your cached browser files 
> and a few other folders to be rid of that annoying popup.
> 
> look for ONYX. download that, run it. I would suggest configuring it first 
> before doing any of the tasks it has in its toolbar.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Has anyone heard of a program called mac keeper?
>> Every time I try and do anything online it says my computer isn’t secure. 
>> This didn’t happen until after I uninstalled handbrake.
>> I really need help fixing this.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>>  
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
>> 
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Re: Mac keeper

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

It is a scam. Don’t try and install it.
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:01 PM, Stacey Robinson  wrote:
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> Has anyone heard of a program called mac keeper?
> Every time I try and do anything online it says my computer isn’t secure. 
> This didn’t happen until after I uninstalled handbrake.
> I really need help fixing this.
> Thanks
> 
> 
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>   
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Re: NAS questions

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I don't know about the NAS part but weird noises isn't always a for sure 
indicator. My old Mac tower has three hard drives in it and they have 
made all kinds of weird noises but they keep on going. Depending on your 
enclosure, it could just be the fan. For internal drives you can check 
the SMART (Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology) status of 
your drive to find out if it thinks it's about to die either in terminal:


diskutil info disk0 | grep SMART

which should say "Verified". You can get that same info from Disk 
Utility sometimes after selecting a drive (not the volume within a 
drive) and then navigate to the bottom of the window where it has all 
the info like name and capacity. I say sometimes because sometimes it's 
there and sometimes not. The terminal command always seems to work.


That said, external drives don't seem to work with this but there are 
tools you can install to do this such as Smart Monitoring Tools although 
not all enclosures support this:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/

More info about SMART is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

Checking on this has saved my bacon more than once.

CB

On 4/3/15 6:05 AM, jeffrey greene wrote:

Hi, Ok first sorry for the long post! I’ve had bad luck with external hard 
drives. My 3.5 year old lacie 4tb thunderbolt is making strange noises. 
Figures, its 6 months out of warranty. So, I was considering getting a NAS 
drive. So here are my questions:
1 which brands do you guys recommend?
2 which brand is easiest to setup using VO on the mac?
3 some NAS drives advertize personal cloud functions. Is this important?
4 What capacity do you think I should get? I heard something a long time ago 
that for example an 8tb nas doesn’t have the full 8tb available.
Thanks, Jeff



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Re: NAS questions

[jeff `greene]

Hi Chris, Its not just the noise, when I do a copy from my mac's drive
to the lacie external the copy rate is slower than it used to be. I
just thought I might have better luck with a NAS.
Jeff


On 4/3/15, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> I don't know about the NAS part but weird noises isn't always a for sure
> indicator. My old Mac tower has three hard drives in it and they have
> made all kinds of weird noises but they keep on going. Depending on your
> enclosure, it could just be the fan. For internal drives you can check
> the SMART (Self-Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology) status of
> your drive to find out if it thinks it's about to die either in terminal:
>
> diskutil info disk0 | grep SMART
>
> which should say "Verified". You can get that same info from Disk
> Utility sometimes after selecting a drive (not the volume within a
> drive) and then navigate to the bottom of the window where it has all
> the info like name and capacity. I say sometimes because sometimes it's
> there and sometimes not. The terminal command always seems to work.
>
> That said, external drives don't seem to work with this but there are
> tools you can install to do this such as Smart Monitoring Tools although
> not all enclosures support this:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/smartmontools/
>
> More info about SMART is here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
>
> Checking on this has saved my bacon more than once.
>
> CB
>
> On 4/3/15 6:05 AM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>> Hi, Ok first sorry for the long post! I’ve had bad luck with external hard
>> drives. My 3.5 year old lacie 4tb thunderbolt is making strange noises.
>> Figures, its 6 months out of warranty. So, I was considering getting a NAS
>> drive. So here are my questions:
>> 1 which brands do you guys recommend?
>> 2 which brand is easiest to setup using VO on the mac?
>> 3 some NAS drives advertize personal cloud functions. Is this important?
>> 4 What capacity do you think I should get? I heard something a long time
>> ago that for example an 8tb nas doesn’t have the full 8tb available.
>> Thanks, Jeff
>>
>
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Re: how to message someone offsets here not by asking his/her email address here?

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Yes, there’s also looking at the raw source from the view, message menu. From 
memory cmd u.

Gena
> On 3 Apr 2015, at 14:30, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Sort of.  When in the message, press cmd-shift-h to have Mail show all the 
> Header information, interact with that info then navigate through all that 
> technical mumbo jumbo until you find the line that says something about 
> “x-Original Sender” and the eMail address is there.  Six of one, half dozen 
> of the other to know which is quicker or easier.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 00:47, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
> thanks, but is there another way to do it rather than copy paste it to text 
> edit? But thanks anyway
>> On 02 Apr 2015, at 10:34 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Kind of a backwards way of doing things, but try this.
>> 
>> • When the message from this person is open.
>> • Interact with the Message Header area.
>> • Press cmd-a to select its contents.
>> • open TextEdit.
>> • press cmd-shift-t to change the format to Plain text.
>> • Paste in the results of your copy.
>> 
>> The eMail address will be between the pointies right after their name.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 13:51, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>  Good morning to all, i would like to ask how would you email offlist by 
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weather aps for the mac?

[ted phillips]

Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac that 
will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but it is 
only giving a little info for one day.
Thanks all

Ted Phillips

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Skype for mac

[Pamela Francis]

Hello folks,
I have an interesting dilemma.
Was attempting to access my skype program from my doc as I had placed it there 
when I installed it.
As it wouldn't open, I was curious as to why. Looked in my applications folder, 
not there.
I went to the Mac App Store, could not find my Skype program there either. Has 
it been taken out of the Mac App Store? If not, can someone please send me a 
link. Would greatly appreciate it.

Pam Francis

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Re: Skype for mac

[Matthew Dierckens]

Hi Pam,
I wonder if you didn't copy the app file into your applications folder from the 
Skype disk image?
You can go to www.skye.com and download the disk image, copy the Skype.app 
file, and ten paste it to the applications folder.

God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:37, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> I have an interesting dilemma.
> Was attempting to access my skype program from my doc as I had placed it 
> there when I installed it.
> As it wouldn't open, I was curious as to why. Looked in my applications 
> folder, not there.
> I went to the Mac App Store, could not find my Skype program there either. 
> Has it been taken out of the Mac App Store? If not, can someone please send 
> me a link. Would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Pam Francis
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Bible App Project

[Barry Hadder]

Hello everyone.

Due to past and recent posts on the subject, I’ve been recently inspired to 
start a desktop bible project for the Mac.  I’ve even found a suitable data set 
to use.  However, I happened to run across the sight of the company that owns 
the rights to the Scourby narration and it appears that they all ready have 
something in the works.  It is at http://scourby.com .  It 
appears that they already have an IOS version that is usable with Voiceover.  I 
personally own the CD set and I can say that Scourby’s narration is amazing.

I would like to hear any feedback in regards to whether or not there is any 
need for  pursuing such a project.  If their approach isn’t what people hear 
are looking for etc.  If not, then what are people looking for in a Bible app?  
It certainly wouldn’t be practical for me to incorporate Scourby’s narration 
into an app as they own the rights and even if I got permission, they could 
revoke it any time they so choosed.
Thanks.


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text attributes in Preview

[Jenine Stanley]

I am trying to see the text attributes in a file in Preview. The file is a PDF 
and when I use the text attribute command, VO-t, I hear nothing. this command 
seems to work just about everywhere else. 

So, could this be the PDF, Preview or VO? 

I need to see a line of bolded text in an answer key for a quiz. 

Thanks!
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Playlists not syncing properly

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

My playlist don't seem to be syncing properly between my Mac and my iPhone. On 
my iPhone I have two copies of each playlist, and recent modifications that I 
have made to my playlist do not seem to be sinking from my Mac to my phone. I 
have the latest version of iTunes. Does anyone know what's up? Any solutions?
Thanks,
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Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want to 
tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, not 
exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 

I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had to 
read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first before 
doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to handle 
employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, however, I could 
have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So now I am considering 
firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when the IRS web site said 2014 
on the place for the form, but the form says 2015. At least on the IRS forms 
you can get the braille copies, too. 

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Re: weather aps for the mac?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Are you talking about the weather widget when you hit F12? If so, mine 
gives a 6-day forecast in a group. When I interact with that I can step 
though each of the days to get the basic high/low partly cloudy type stuff.


CB

On 4/3/15 11:21 AM, ted phillips wrote:

Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac that 
will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but it is 
only giving a little info for one day.
Thanks all

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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Ray Foret Jr]

In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys 
> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want to 
> tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, not 
> exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
> 
> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had to 
> read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first before 
> doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to handle 
> employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, however, I could 
> have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So now I am considering 
> firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when the IRS web site said 2014 
> on the place for the form, but the form says 2015. At least on the IRS forms 
> you can get the braille copies, too. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
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Re: Skype for mac

[Christopher Hallsworth]

It never was in the Mac App Store. You download it from Skype's website 
located here

www.skype.com
you will then download it as either a disk image (DMG), a single app 
file or even a compressed (zip) archive. Let us know if you need further 
help.


On 03/04/2015 17:37, Pamela Francis wrote:

Hello folks,
I have an interesting dilemma.
Was attempting to access my skype program from my doc as I had placed it there 
when I installed it.
As it wouldn't open, I was curious as to why. Looked in my applications folder, 
not there.
I went to the Mac App Store, could not find my Skype program there either. Has 
it been taken out of the Mac App Store? If not, can someone please send me a 
link. Would greatly appreciate it.

Pam Francis



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Re: Bible App Project

[Paul Mimms]

Although Scorpios great, I would prefer something that offered other versions 
beyond the K JV or NK JV.

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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone.
> 
> Due to past and recent posts on the subject, I’ve been recently inspired to 
> start a desktop bible project for the Mac.  I’ve even found a suitable data 
> set to use.  However, I happened to run across the sight of the company that 
> owns the rights to the Scourby narration and it appears that they all ready 
> have something in the works.  It is at http://scourby.com.  It appears that 
> they already have an IOS version that is usable with Voiceover.  I personally 
> own the CD set and I can say that Scourby’s narration is amazing.
> 
> I would like to hear any feedback in regards to whether or not there is any 
> need for  pursuing such a project.  If their approach isn’t what people hear 
> are looking for etc.  If not, then what are people looking for in a Bible 
> app?  It certainly wouldn’t be practical for me to incorporate Scourby’s 
> narration into an app as they own the rights and even if I got permission, 
> they could revoke it any time they so choosed.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Barry Hadder
> bhad...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Skype for mac

[Pamela Francis]

Hi folks,
Thank you so much. I feel like such an idiot.
My one question would be why would the icon remain on my dock if it would not 
access the file? That makes no sense. If someone could please explain that I 
would appreciate it.

Pam Francis

On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

It never was in the Mac App Store. You download it from Skype's website located 
here
www.skype.com
you will then download it as either a disk image (DMG), a single app file or 
even a compressed (zip) archive. Let us know if you need further help.

> On 03/04/2015 17:37, Pamela Francis wrote:
> Hello folks,
> I have an interesting dilemma.
> Was attempting to access my skype program from my doc as I had placed it 
> there when I installed it.
> As it wouldn't open, I was curious as to why. Looked in my applications 
> folder, not there.
> I went to the Mac App Store, could not find my Skype program there either. 
> Has it been taken out of the Mac App Store? If not, can someone please send 
> me a link. Would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 

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Re: weather aps for the mac?

[ted phillips]

I think I have it working.  It shows up as a link and I have to interact with 
it.  Is that correct?  If not, you will have to tell me what I am doing wrong 
and how to set it up so I can read it.  Thanks
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:55 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you talking about the weather widget when you hit F12? If so, mine gives 
> a 6-day forecast in a group. When I interact with that I can step though each 
> of the days to get the basic high/low partly cloudy type stuff.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/3/15 11:21 AM, ted phillips wrote:
>> Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac 
>> that will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but 
>> it is only giving a little info for one day.
>> Thanks all
>> 
>> Ted Phillips
>> 
> 
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Re: weather aps for the mac?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

On my widget there are only three things I can interact with. First is a 
link which says the current weather. If I VO-right I land on a 6-day 
forecast group which I can interact with to inspect the individual days. 
Last is an Info Button which is where I can change the locale for the 
weather. If I action the current weather link it takes me to Safari and 
loads up some Yahoo weather page.


CB

On 4/3/15 2:52 PM, ted phillips wrote:

I think I have it working.  It shows up as a link and I have to interact with 
it.  Is that correct?  If not, you will have to tell me what I am doing wrong 
and how to set it up so I can read it.  Thanks

On Apr 3, 2015, at 11:55 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Are you talking about the weather widget when you hit F12? If so, mine gives a 
6-day forecast in a group. When I interact with that I can step though each of 
the days to get the basic high/low partly cloudy type stuff.

CB

On 4/3/15 11:21 AM, ted phillips wrote:

Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac that 
will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but it is 
only giving a little info for one day.
Thanks all

Ted Phillips


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Re: Skype for mac

[Christopher Hallsworth]

You have to remove icons from the dock yourself.

On 03/04/2015 19:49, Pamela Francis wrote:

Hi folks,
Thank you so much. I feel like such an idiot.
My one question would be why would the icon remain on my dock if it would not 
access the file? That makes no sense. If someone could please explain that I 
would appreciate it.

Pam Francis

On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:02 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

It never was in the Mac App Store. You download it from Skype's website located 
here
www.skype.com
you will then download it as either a disk image (DMG), a single app file or 
even a compressed (zip) archive. Let us know if you need further help.


On 03/04/2015 17:37, Pamela Francis wrote:
Hello folks,
I have an interesting dilemma.
Was attempting to access my skype program from my doc as I had placed it there 
when I installed it.
As it wouldn't open, I was curious as to why. Looked in my applications folder, 
not there.
I went to the Mac App Store, could not find my Skype program there either. Has 
it been taken out of the Mac App Store? If not, can someone please send me a 
link. Would greatly appreciate it.

Pam Francis





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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Eugenia Firth]

As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if you 
get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your PDF files 
to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
> accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> 
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys 
>> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want 
>> to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, not 
>> exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
>> 
>> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had 
>> to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first 
>> before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to 
>> handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, however, 
>> I could have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So now I am 
>> considering firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when the IRS web 
>> site said 2014 on the place for the form, but the form says 2015. At least 
>> on the IRS forms you can get the braille copies, too. 
>> 
>> Gigi 
>> 
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Mary Otten]

How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
Mary


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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
> doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
> forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if you 
> get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your PDF 
> files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
>> accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> 
>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac,
>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi guys 
>>> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want 
>>> to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, 
>>> not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
>>> 
>>> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had 
>>> to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first 
>>> before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to 
>>> handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, however, 
>>> I could have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So now I am 
>>> considering firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when the IRS web 
>>> site said 2014 on the place for the form, but the form says 2015. At least 
>>> on the IRS forms you can get the braille copies, too. 
>>> 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Chris Moore]

Hi Mary,
Reading tables in a pdf file is a big deal for me as well.  I don’t know of a 
solution on the Mac as yet.  Adobe reader on Windows with NVDA does a 
reasonably good job with this.  An accessible version of Adobe on the mac would 
be quite helpful.

The other approach I’ve thought of is to convert the pdf file to html which 
would hopefully preserve the tables and links.  Safari should be able to handle 
such an html rendering.

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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Eugenia Firth]

Hello Mary
Maybe I am wrong, but Adobe doesn't seem to be very committed in getting this 
done for us. At least the PDF pen pro people are willing to do it. That says a 
lot.
When I get a chance, I will take one of my numbers files and convert them to a 
table or something. But I can see if it works. With the pro version, you can 
convert files to excel. I can see how well that works if that would be any 
benefit to you.
Gigi

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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
>> doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
>> forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if you 
>> get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your PDF 
>> files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
>>> accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
 
 Hi guys 
 I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want 
 to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, 
 not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
 
 I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had 
 to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first 
 before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to 
 handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, 
 however, I could have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So 
 now I am considering firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when 
 the IRS web site said 2014 on the place for the form, but the form says 
 2015. At least on the IRS forms you can get the braille copies, too. 
 
 Gigi 
 
 
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Problems with a word document with tables

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

I need your experienced help.  I am doing a course and one of the ways I am 
being tested is my tutor sending to all the students a Word documents which has 
tables.  The document is formatted as a word document.  It has a number of 
questions and related conditions to it in some kind of a text box and then a 
table into which I have to type in "yes, no, or maybe" answers.  I opened it in 
Pages, and I could access the table into which to write the "yes, no, maybe" 
answers, but there was no way of knowing which row corresponded to which 
question/condition in the textbox.  It was a mess with voiceover and it took me 
two hours to work out what was what.  I tried to convert it into rtf to see 
whether I can read all the relevant bits of the assignment but I couldn't since 
rtf reported the table as embedded file.  I converted it into text but much of 
the content of the file was missing.  I finally converted it to pdf and I was 
able to read the questions/conditions text box but of course I couldn't write 
the answers into the table provided because the table wasn't reported and 
anyway you cant write new content in preview.  I then attempted Ms Word in 
Windows 7 in my virtual machine but that wasn't much help because I couldn't 
read the textbox with the all relevant questions/conditions. 

So my question to you is, is there a way of confidently reading textboxes and 
their content in Pages or in any other way?  I reported the difficulties to my 
tutor and he said he would try and send the assignments like this to me in an 
editable pdf form but I don't think I can actually access and edit any editable 
pdfs with voiceover.  Is there a way around it/  This time, I managed to submit 
my assignment after hours of trying but I don't fancy doing it every time.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew

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Re: weather aps for the mac?

[BBS]

Hi Ted. I'm actually looking for a good weather app for the Mac myself. I 
want something that can notify me of any severe weather and the weather 
widget doesn't do that.


Shawn
Sent From My White Macbook
- Original Message - 
From: "ted phillips" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: weather aps for the mac?


Hi all.  I am wondering if there are any good weather programs for the mac 
that will give detailed information?  I have the stock weather widget, but 
it is only giving a little info for one day.

Thanks all

Ted Phillips

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Is there a way to force a playlist to sync to your iPhone?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

So in an attempt to force the newer version of one of my playlists to sync to 
my phone, I deleted it from my phone.  I've since synced my phone to my Mac in 
iTunes, but no joy with the playlist.  Is there some way to force it to copy to 
my phone?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Problems with a word document with tables

[Eugenia Firth]

Hello Andrew
I use pages all the time with Microsoft Word documents that I've converted. If 
this file is not sensitive, I would be willing to take a look at the blank file 
and see if I can figure out something. If you would like contact me off list 
and I will see what I can do.
Gigi

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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> I need your experienced help.  I am doing a course and one of the ways I am 
> being tested is my tutor sending to all the students a Word documents which 
> has tables.  The document is formatted as a word document.  It has a number 
> of questions and related conditions to it in some kind of a text box and then 
> a table into which I have to type in "yes, no, or maybe" answers.  I opened 
> it in Pages, and I could access the table into which to write the "yes, no, 
> maybe" answers, but there was no way of knowing which row corresponded to 
> which question/condition in the textbox.  It was a mess with voiceover and it 
> took me two hours to work out what was what.  I tried to convert it into rtf 
> to see whether I can read all the relevant bits of the assignment but I 
> couldn't since rtf reported the table as embedded file.  I converted it into 
> text but much of the content of the file was missing.  I finally converted it 
> to pdf and I was able to read the questions/conditions text box but of course 
> I couldn't write the answers into the table provided because the table wasn't 
> reported and anyway you cant write new content in preview.  I then attempted 
> Ms Word in Windows 7 in my virtual machine but that wasn't much help because 
> I couldn't read the textbox with the all relevant questions/conditions. 
> 
> So my question to you is, is there a way of confidently reading textboxes and 
> their content in Pages or in any other way?  I reported the difficulties to 
> my tutor and he said he would try and send the assignments like this to me in 
> an editable pdf form but I don't think I can actually access and edit any 
> editable pdfs with voiceover.  Is there a way around it/  This time, I 
> managed to submit my assignment after hours of trying but I don't fancy doing 
> it every time.
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Mary Otten]

I will be most interested to see what you may discover about PDF pen and table 
reading. PDFs are one of the things I still do on windows if it involves 
anything other than strict reading of the text. For that, VoiceStream is good.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hello Mary
> Maybe I am wrong, but Adobe doesn't seem to be very committed in getting this 
> done for us. At least the PDF pen pro people are willing to do it. That says 
> a lot.
> When I get a chance, I will take one of my numbers files and convert them to 
> a table or something. But I can see if it works. With the pro version, you 
> can convert files to excel. I can see how well that works if that would be 
> any benefit to you.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
>>> doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
>>> forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if 
>>> you get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your 
>>> PDF files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
 In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
 accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys 
> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I 
> want to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes 
> work, not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
> 
> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I 
> had to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form 
> first before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I 
> used to handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that 
> experience, however, I could have done it ok if I had read through the 
> form first. So now I am considering firing my payroll company. I had a 
> bad moment when the IRS web site said 2014 on the place for the form, but 
> the form says 2015. At least on the IRS forms you can get the braille 
> copies, too. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[jeffrey greene]

Hi I noticed PDFPEN PRO is $124.95. Can you fill out forms with the regular 
PDFPEN?
Thanks, Jeff

> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth  > wrote:
> 
>> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
>> doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
>> forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if you 
>> get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your PDF 
>> files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr > > wrote:
>> 
>>> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
>>> accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> 
>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi guys 
 I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want 
 to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, 
 not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
 
 I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had 
 to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first 
 before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to 
 handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, 
 however, I could have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So 
 now I am considering firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when 
 the IRS web site said 2014 on the place for the form, but the form says 
 2015. At least on the IRS forms you can get the braille copies, too. 
 
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Eugenia Firth]

I don't really know because I never had the version that was not the pro 
version. You may want to contact the developer and find out.
Gigi

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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:15 PM, jeffrey greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi I noticed PDFPEN PRO is $124.95. Can you fill out forms with the regular 
> PDFPEN?
> Thanks, Jeff
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but it 
>>> doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't take 
>>> forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, if 
>>> you get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your 
>>> PDF files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
>>> Gigi
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
 In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
 accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys 
> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I 
> want to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes 
> work, not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
> 
> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I 
> had to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form 
> first before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I 
> used to handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that 
> experience, however, I could have done it ok if I had read through the 
> form first. So now I am considering firing my payroll company. I had a 
> bad moment when the IRS web site said 2014 on the place for the form, but 
> the form says 2015. At least on the IRS forms you can get the braille 
> copies, too. 
> 
> Gigi 
> 
> 
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Re: Filling out forms with PDf Pen Pro

[Tree Mabry]

Hey everyone, I wanted to make a few points.


First of all, Adobe claims that it is about to come out with the first ever 
mac app that will give voice over users full access to tagged pdfs. You can 
read more about it at the following link. 

https://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2015/03/acrobat-dc-accessibility-update.html

The update will be out in less then thirty days.

Secondly, while it is true that PDF pin is the most accessible way to fill 
out forms on the mac, it is not true that it is the only way. It is 
possible for voice over users to use the current adobe reader mac app to 
fill out forms. I gave a detailed description of how to do this on an apple 
vis form post, hear is the link.

http://www.applevis.com/forum/os-x-mac-app-discussion/how-fill-out-pdf-forms-adobe-reader-mac

I also posted about the adobe update on apple vis last week, but that post 
did not seem to get much attention. 

Thirdly dealing with pdfs with tables. The previous poster is right that 
the best option on the mac is to convert the pdf file to an html file. You 
can then read the html file in Safari, just as you would read a web page. I 
have done this hundreds of times for school stuff. There are several ways 
to convert the file, but I have found that the best way is with abby fine 
reader pro for the mac. Whats great about this option is that it will also 
often create accessible headings which are great.

If anyone has any questions about pdf's on the mac I can probably give some 
helpful info. hopefully  the state of accessible pdf on the mac will b 
radically different in less then thirty days when the Adobe update comes 
out. Of course we don't know for sure if the app will be as accessible as 
they claim, but if it is it will be a game changer for the mac. Perhaps one 
of the most important accessibility improvements ever on OSX.   
  

 

 Friday, April 3, 2015 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-5, Gigi wrote:
>
> I don't really know because I never had the version that was not the pro 
> version. You may want to contact the developer and find out.
> Gigi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:15 PM, jeffrey greene  > wrote:
>
> Hi I noticed PDFPEN PRO is $124.95. Can you fill out forms with the 
> regular PDFPEN?
> Thanks, Jeff
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Mary Otten > 
> wrote:
>
> How about tables? Any progress on reading tables in an intelligible manner?
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:01 PM, Eugenia Firth > 
> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, that is true. I will tell you that it works faster but 
> it doesn't windows. It calls up that file almost immediately and doesn't 
> take forever while it tags the thing or whatever it doesn't windows. Also, 
> if you get the pro version, one of the things you can do is to convert your 
> PDF files to text or Word files or Excel files. I have done this.
> Gigi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Ray Foret Jr  > wrote:
>
> In short, pDF Pin Pro is what would appear to be the most if not the only 
> accessible way for a blind Mac user to fill out a PDF form yefs?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>
> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>
> Sent from my Mac,
> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>  
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Eugenia Firth > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi guys 
> I just filled out an IRS form 941 with PDF Pen Pro, version 7.1 and I want 
> to tell you guys about it. We can do it now because the checkboxes work, 
> not exactly like in Windows, but you can get there. 
>
> I found the first one did not come up when I pressed the tab key, so I had 
> to read with VO arrow keys to find it, so it pays to read the form first 
> before doing it. In my case, I knew the form fairly well because I used to 
> handle employment tax questions. If I had not had that experience, however, 
> I could have done it ok if I had read through the form first. So now I am 
> considering firing my payroll company. I had a bad moment when the IRS web 
> site said 2014 on the place for the form, but the form says 2015. At least 
> on the IRS forms you can get the braille copies, too. 
>
> Gigi 
>
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Computer is working great now.

[Stacey Robinson]

Hi all,
I spoke to the and now my computer is working great.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 

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