date:20141004

Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and 
facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some system 
settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this menu can 
they be found, they aren't there.

> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :
> 
>   Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in 
> the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share 
> item is on that menu.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
>> file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
>> duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They 
>> used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub menu isn't 
>> there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i 
>> were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", 
>> "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or folder.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>>> 
>>> There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
>>> If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
>>> items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
>>> vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a share 
>>> folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. If you are 
>>> focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you do vo-shift-m, 
>>> it means something in your focus isn't working properly. What usually works 
>>> for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor tracking off and back on 
>>> again.
>>> 
>>> Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras 
>>> (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently added 
>>> and various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to access, 
>>> more so than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on this menu 
>>> usually gets me into this area, but this is a totally different thing than 
>>> the sharing you are asking about.
>>> 
>>> Hth.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried 
 for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable 
 problem at least on my own.
 /Krister
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
> 
> VO shift m.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to 
>> get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the root 
>> directory of dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned shortcut 
>> menu.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox 
>>> folder? Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my 
>>> dropbox and its content. Is that so and if not, how do i get my 
>>> rightclick menu back?
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :
 
 Hi ray works like a charm here
 cheers gerry have a nice day
 Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
 Skype: gerry.cook1
 Twitter: @gerrycook52
 
 On 3 Oct 2014, at 10:09 pm, Ray Foret Jr  
 wrote:
 
> Okay.  Like I said before, forget the public folder and put the file 
> you want to share in the rout directory of your Drop box folder and 
> focus on it first.  Of course, make sure you are using the latest 
> version of Drop box.
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
> blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Don't need it.  Preview will read pdf's just fine.  And, if you ever need to do 
OcR on a pdf, Abby fine reader.


Sincerely,
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Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

On Oct 4, 2014, at 1:12 AM, denise avant  wrote:

> Hello all,
> Is there an accessible version of adobe reader for the mac
> Thanks.
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Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

2014-10-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Are you really sure you have the latest version of Drop Box?  I doubt it since 
you're having these issues.  
Sincerely,
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Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and 
> facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some system 
> settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this menu can 
> they be found, they aren't there.
> 
>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :
>> 
>>  Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in 
>> the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share 
>> item is on that menu.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
>>> file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
>>> duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They 
>>> used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub menu isn't 
>>> there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i 
>>> were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", 
>>> "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or folder.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :

 There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
 If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
 items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
 vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a share 
 folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. If you 
 are focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you do 
 vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus isn't working properly. What 
 usually works for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor tracking 
 off and back on again.

 Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras 
 (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently added 
 and various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to access, 
 more so than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on this menu 
 usually gets me into this area, but this is a totally different thing than 
 the sharing you are asking about.

 Hth.

 --
 Cheryl

 I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
 I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
 thrown in the trash!
 Then God gave me a new heart and life:
 His joy for my despairing tears!
 And now, every day:
 "This I call to mind,
 and therefore I have hope:
 The steadfast love of the Lord
 never ceases;
 his mercies never come to an end;
 they are new every morning;
 great is your faithfulness."
 (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
 wrote:

> There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried 
> for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable 
> problem at least on my own.
> /Krister
> 
>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
>> 
>> VO shift m.
>> 
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to 
>>> get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the 
>>> root directory of dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned 
>>> shortcut menu.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox 
 folder? Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my 
 dropbox and its content. Is that so and if not, how do i get my 
 rightclick menu back?
 /Krister

> 3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :
> 
> Hi ray works like a charm here
> cheers gerry have a nice day
> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
> Skype: gerry.cook1
> Twitter: @gerrycook52
> 
> On 3 Oct 2014, at 10:09 pm, Ray Foret Jr  
> wrote:
> 
>> Okay.  Like I said before, forget the public folder and put the file 
>> you want to share in the rout directory of your Drop box fol

Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Website says latest version is 2.10.30 and that's what i got.
/Krister

> 4 okt 2014 kl. 11:55 skrev Ray Foret Jr :
> 
> Are you really sure you have the latest version of Drop Box?  I doubt it 
> since you're having these issues.  
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
> 
> On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom  > wrote:
> 
>> Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and 
>> facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some 
>> system settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this 
>> menu can they be found, they aren't there.
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer >> >:
>>> 
>>>  Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in 
>>> the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share 
>>> item is on that menu.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
 file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
 duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They 
 used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub menu isn't 
 there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i 
 were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", 
 "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or folder.
 /Krister
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
> 
> There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
> If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
> items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
> vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a share 
> folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. If you 
> are focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you do 
> vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus isn't working properly. What 
> usually works for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor tracking 
> off and back on again.
> 
> Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras 
> (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently 
> added and various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to 
> access, more so than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on 
> this menu usually gets me into this area, but this is a totally different 
> thing than the sharing you are asking about.
> 
> Hth.
> 
> --
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
>> There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried 
>> for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable 
>> problem at least on my own.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>> VO shift m.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to 
 get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the 
 root directory of dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned 
 shortcut menu.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox 
> folder? Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my 
> dropbox and its content. Is that so and if not, how do i get my 
> rightclick menu back?
> /Krister
> 
>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :
>> 
>> Hi ray works like a charm here
>> cheers gerry have a

Re: New Mac malware discovered; how to check your Mac for ‘iWorm’ malware

I did finally get the Folder not Found Message spoken, but it didn't work the 
first time I tried it.
Cheers,
Donna
On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
wrote:

> New Mac malware discovered; how to check your Mac for 'iWorm' malware
> by MacDailyNews
> [cfsp key="adsense_336x280"]"Dr. Web announced the discovery of a new piece 
> of Mac malware on Monday, which they are calling Mac.Backdoor.iWorm. 
> According to their report, they believe the malware is affecting 'more than 
> 17,000 unique IP addresses,'" The Safe Mac reports. "Of course, this may not 
> correlate well with the number of infected Macs, since most Macs do not have 
> static IP addresses, but the number of infected Macs should at least be on 
> the same order of magnitude."
> "It's unclear from Dr. Web's report exactly how the malware gets installed," 
> The Safe Mac reports. "The name 'iWorm' suggests some kind of virus-like 
> behavior. According to the report, the 'dropper' (ie, the program that 
> installs the malware) puts the executable in a folder named JavaW in the 
> /Library/Application Support/ folder, but this does not necessarily mean that 
> Java is involved in any way. The name could simply be chosen as camouflage."
> "To check to see if you are infected, go to the Finder and choose Go to 
> Folder from the Go menu," The Safe Mac reports. "Copy the following path and 
> paste it into the window that opens - /Library/Application Support/JavaW - 
> then, click the Go button. If you just get a beep, and the window displays a 
> message in the bottom left corner that the folder can't be found, then you 
> should be okay.
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Re: more on adding to iTunes library

Got it!  thank you!
Donna
On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Oops, my bad, one more folder deep.  You need to go into the iTunes Media or 
> iTunes Music folder where all the media is stored.  You'll see an Album 
> Artwork folder, a number of iTunes Library files and either iTunes Media or 
> iTunes Music depending on how your iTunes is set up.  Inside that folder is 
> the "Automatically Add to iTunes" folder that I meant.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi tim,
>> 
>> Yeah, I see the iTunes folder, just nothing that says automatically add to 
>> iTunes.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna 
>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The "Automatically Add to iTunes" is a folder in your iTunes folder within 
>>> your Home director.  go to the Finder/Desktop, press cmd-shift-h to open 
>>> your Home Directory, open the Music folder and your iTunes folder is there.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 9:02 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 OK, so I've been trying to implement the suggestions I got yesterday.  I 
 have no Automatically add to iTunes folder.  I've gone through prefs, but 
 am not finding a place to adjust any setting pertaining to automatically 
 adding to library.  It seems like that has to be a setting somewhere 
 either in iTunes prefs or system prefs, if anyone knows where it is, I'd 
 appreciate any information.
 Thanks,
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Re: to Donna: think I've solved the issue of Adding to library menu not being there

Hmm,  Well, I don't think so.  I tried following your steps, but still didn't 
see the Add to Library Window.  thanks, though, for checking it out.  At least 
now I've got the automatically add to Ituens folder sorted out, but I still 
miss the CMD-O, it was so quick and easy.
Cheers,
Donna
On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> I suspected something and tested it.  Could it possibly be that when you went 
> to press CMD+o, the usual Add to library dialog did open up but in another 
> window and because VO didn't announce the fact, you missed it?  Sounds silly, 
> I suppose:  but, that is pretty much what happened to me just now.  I pressed 
> CMD+O and was not focused where I expected to be.  All menus were dimmed out 
> thereafter.  Guessing what had happened, I kept pressing the close button 
> until everything (that is all open windows) had closed.  Got out of iTunes 
> and went back in and tried it again.  Works now.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
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Re: more iTunes folder weirdness

Thanks, Tim, I'll see if I can figure out which folder I'm connecting two.  
I've got a lot of music, so it'd be nice to free up that space.
Cheers,
Donna
On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, you should have both, unless you really want two of them.  If you go into 
> iTunes Preferences in the Advanced pane, you can usually see which of those 
> you are connecting to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> So, as I'm exploring all this, I notice that I seem to have two iTunes 
>> folders, one housed in my Music folder, and another in my home directory 
>> outside of the music folder.  Do I need them both?  they seem to be 
>> connected, that is to say that when I finally got this song added in the one 
>> folder, it was also added in the other.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: A real clean install

Hi,

Yes, once VO is on at the Language Chooser window, it is on and accessible all 
the way through the installation.  There are a few occasions where you may need 
to use the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2), but all options are fully accessible with 
VO.

Later...

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On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:34 PM, The Believer  wrote:

>   I am not getting the information I need to do this right. When I did the 
> upgrade the first time, I did not erase the drive as I thought I would, 
> probably because I missed getting Voiceover at each step.
> 
>   So what I need is, will Voiceover speak all the way, will I need to turn it 
> on at certain steps etc?
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>>After 3 days or so of running Mavericks, I still have issues after
>> login. So I may reinstall and this time wipe the hard drive.
>> 
>>I created the bootable USB drive so that is fine. What I need now is
>> an outline of the process once the Mac boots from the USB drive. I had
>> trouble getting Voiceover to speak at each step so I would like to do
>> this right. Thanks.
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

Hi,

No, Adobe Reader is not accessible with VO at all.  As Ray mentioned, the 
built-in Preview app will handle pdf's just fine other than finding edit fields 
in editable pdf's.  Often web-sites claim that you need Adobe Reader to read 
their pdf's, but this is a misleading statement as there are a number of pdf 
readers out there that read pdf documents as well or better than Adobe Reader.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Don't need it.  Preview will read pdf's just fine.  And, if you ever need to 
> do OcR on a pdf, Abby fine reader.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!
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>> Hello all,
>> Is there an accessible version of adobe reader for the mac
>> Thanks.
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Re: New Mac malware discovered; how to check your Mac for ‘iWorm’ malware

Hi,

Not sure why we needed to use the Go To Folder option for this.  Simply open 
Macintosh HD, open the Library folder, open Application Support and take a 
look.  This Library folder is not invisible.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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> I did finally get the Folder not Found Message spoken, but it didn't work the 
> first time I tried it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
>> New Mac malware discovered; how to check your Mac for 'iWorm' malware
>> by MacDailyNews
>> [cfsp key="adsense_336x280"]"Dr. Web announced the discovery of a new piece 
>> of Mac malware on Monday, which they are calling Mac.Backdoor.iWorm. 
>> According to their report, they believe the malware is affecting 'more than 
>> 17,000 unique IP addresses,'" The Safe Mac reports. "Of course, this may not 
>> correlate well with the number of infected Macs, since most Macs do not have 
>> static IP addresses, but the number of infected Macs should at least be on 
>> the same order of magnitude."
>> "It's unclear from Dr. Web's report exactly how the malware gets installed," 
>> The Safe Mac reports. "The name 'iWorm' suggests some kind of virus-like 
>> behavior. According to the report, the 'dropper' (ie, the program that 
>> installs the malware) puts the executable in a folder named JavaW in the 
>> /Library/Application Support/ folder, but this does not necessarily mean 
>> that Java is involved in any way. The name could simply be chosen as 
>> camouflage."
>> "To check to see if you are infected, go to the Finder and choose Go to 
>> Folder from the Go menu," The Safe Mac reports. "Copy the following path and 
>> paste it into the window that opens - /Library/Application Support/JavaW - 
>> then, click the Go button. If you just get a beep, and the window displays a 
>> message in the bottom left corner that the folder can't be found, then you 
>> should be okay.
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Re: Any free ways to fill out pdf forms

No; we do not have OCR scanning available; besides,  the stupid thing is 
supposed  to be filled out on-line and submitted from the site.
Otherwise, I would just save, convert, fill out, and send in.
 

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Re: adobe reader for the mac

I'm a bit confused here. The other day, preview did not open to read a pdf form 
on-line. I had to download Adobe Reader to access it.
Then it read just fine. 
Does one have to save it first? 
  
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Replacement for Open Book on the MacBook Air?

2014-10-04 Thread George Cassell

I've lost my Windows computer with Open Book for scanning and reading my mail 
and documents.  How can I accomplish the same thing on my MacBook Air?  Do I 
need any special software to do this, or will connecting a flatbed scanner do 
the trick?

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Re: adobe reader for the mac

Hi,

Depending on your settings within Safari, pdf's are either opened within the 
Safari browser or they need to be downloaded first then opened with your 
preferred pdf reader.  I expect that when you downloaded the pdf, then 
subsequently opened it, the file was opened with the Preview app, not Adobe.  
Can't recall where this setting is to tell Safari to open within the browser as 
opposed to not.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> I'm a bit confused here. The other day, preview did not open to read a pdf 
> form on-line. I had to download Adobe Reader to access it.
> Then it read just fine. 
> Does one have to save it first? 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

I never downloaded it. Just read it on-line. I'll have to check the 
Safari settings.

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Re: Replacement for Open Book on the MacBook Air?

2014-10-04 Thread Mary Otten

You need software. You can try docuscan plus, which is cloud-based, and only 
scans English. You can try Abbyy fine reader Pro from the app store. It costs 
less, does foreign languages, and there is an extensive list of scanners which 
it directly supports. Or you can try running Windows on your Mac and continuing 
to use open book. In order to do that, you will need to run either Boot Camp, 
or you will need to purchase a program that will let you run a Windows "virtual 
machine". There are partisans of both of those solutions. The cheapest is Abbyy 
fine reader, which is $100 in the Mac app store. There is a learning curve with 
that.
Mary

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> I've lost my Windows computer with Open Book for scanning and reading my mail 
> and documents.  How can I accomplish the same thing on my MacBook Air?  Do I 
> need any special software to do this, or will connecting a flatbed scanner do 
> the trick?
> 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread Mary Otten

I must be missing something with respect to the preview app. I have never had 
good luck with that thing. I have not been able to navigate, read words or 
lines or's spell something. And tables? Forget it. What am I missing? I would 
love to be able to do PDFs on my Mac. Of course, Docuscan will do that. But it 
cost $300, so perhaps people wouldn't want to spend that kind of money.
Mary


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Re: adobe reader for the mac

Can't find anything which would use Preview to read pdf documents on-line. 
Within the security tab in Safari, I found configure web settings, and the only 
choices given were Adobe Reader, QuickTime, and Java plug-ins. There was a 
warning that using Adobe Reader might compromise personal information. 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

I've had minimal success with it. Sometimes, it reads whole documents. Other 
times, it doesn't, and no matter what I do, I cannot get it to move from page 
to page, and I've never tried to do any of the other things you mentioned, Mary.
Christine

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Re: adobe reader for the mac

Hi,

Preview works very well for me.  In fact, it's pretty well what I use for pdf's 
all the time and have for years.  With respect to your Adobe issue, I'm 
wondering if you've installed an old version of Adobe some time in the past.  
If so, the older versions of Adobe sometimes mess with Safari's ability to open 
pdf's within the browser itself.  You can check this by going into Macintosh 
HD, into Library, into Internet PlugIns and checking if there is a version of 
Adobe PDF Viewer there.  If there is, Trash it then Quit and re-open Safari so 
that Safari's native pdf viewer is used.  I do find it easier to use Preview 
itself, though,  rather than reading the pdf's from within the Safari plugin 
reader.  When in Preview, I usually tell it to show in Single page view but 
that's just my preference, it's not necessary if you're going to use it to read 
a large document in one swoop.  Yes, I find tables difficult, but there often 
difficult in just about any situation.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> I've had minimal success with it. Sometimes, it reads whole documents. Other 
> times, it doesn't, and no matter what I do, I cannot get it to move from page 
> to page, and I've never tried to do any of the other things you mentioned, 
> Mary.
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

This is a brand-new MacBook Air with no Adobe Reader history. Downloaded the 
latest version two days ago. 
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TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

These queries are for any fellow list members who use the TD Bank US iPhone app 
and on-line banking on the tdbank.com web site:



1. Web site:
A couple of years ago, I went from having full access to the site to being 
thrown off as soon as I logged in. This has never changed, despite playing 
around with Java, updating OS 10 software, trying different browsers, nothing.
(I can read the main site and all links and information just fine, but as soon 
as I log in to do my banking . . . poof!)


2. The iPhone app:
It did not have all the features of the site, but what it did offer was fully 
accessible from the time of the app's debut . . . until I tried paying a bill 
yesterday.
I was able to transfer money as usual.  However, when I attempted to pay a 
bill, I saw that the layout had changed slightly, and despite filling out all 
of the fields, it froze on the "enter payment amount" screen, even though 
VoiceOver was reading the payment amount I had written in.
According to a sighted assistant, the amount could not be seen. When he shut 
off VoiceOver, all went fine.
Very frustrating, since I am the one who takes care of all household bills.
I would like to hear others' experiences with this app and web site, and if 
anyone has discovered a workaround for either, or preferably, both.
Thanks in advance. 
Christine

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Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu
choice was 4th from the top and said "share ". Today it gives
me "share dropbox link".

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On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and facebook i
think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some system settings,
but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this menu can they be found, they
aren't there.

3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :

Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in
the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share
item is on that menu.

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On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder
commands like duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They used to be under a sub menu there called
"dropbox" but that sub menu isn't there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i were to go
into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", "airdrop" and i believe
"email" nothing about link or folder.
/Krister

3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :

There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the items,
there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do vo-down-arrow, and in
there you will find a share link as well as a share folder and a share that has
email, message and airdrop under it. If you are focussed on a dropbox item and
don't get the menu when you do vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus
isn't working properly. What usually works for me under these circumstances is
to turn cursor tracking off and back on again.

Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras (vo-m
(not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently added and
various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to access, more so
than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on this menu usually gets
me into this area, but this is a totally different thing than the sharing you
are asking about.

Hth.

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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried for
several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable problem at least on
my own.
/Krister

3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :

VO shift m.

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On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi,

I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to get the
link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the root directory of
dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned shortcut menu.

Thanks,

Gabe

On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Hi,
Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox folder?
Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my dropbox and its content. Is
that so and if not, how do i get my rightclick menu back?
/Krister

3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :

Hi ray works like a charm here
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52

On 3 Oct 2014, at 10:09 pm, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Okay. Like I said before, forget the public folder and put the file you want
to share in the rout directory of your Drop box folder and focus on it first.
Of course, make sure you are using the latest version of Drop box.
Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
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Re: A real clean install


Tim,
   I tried again. Plugged the bootbale USB drive in, restarted, got the 
the startup manager, no speech. Conmad F5 did nothing. The bootable 
drive was not listed anyway so I aborted. Verified that the Mavericks 
installer was still on that drive.


   I need to get that speech before I proceed. Any ideas? Thanks.

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On 10/4/2014 7:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

Yes, once VO is on at the Language Chooser window, it is on and accessible all 
the way through the installation.  There are a few occasions where you may need 
to use the Window Chooser (VO-f2-f2), but all options are fully accessible with 
VO.

Later...

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 3, 2014, at 1:34 PM, The Believer  wrote:


   I am not getting the information I need to do this right. When I did the 
upgrade the first time, I did not erase the drive as I thought I would, 
probably because I missed getting Voiceover at each step.

   So what I need is, will Voiceover speak all the way, will I need to turn it 
on at certain steps etc?

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On 10/2/2014 7:35 PM, The Believer wrote:

After 3 days or so of running Mavericks, I still have issues after
login. So I may reinstall and this time wipe the hard drive.

I created the bootable USB drive so that is fine. What I need now is
an outline of the process once the Mac boots from the USB drive. I had
trouble getting Voiceover to speak at each step so I would like to do
this right. Thanks.

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Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Sorry, no such menu choice here. Only the standard right click menu. I'm 
starting to believe i have serious problems here.
/Krister

> 4 okt 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev The Believer :
> 
>   No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu choice was 
> 4th from the top and said "share ". Today it gives me "share 
> dropbox link".
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and 
>> facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some 
>> system settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this 
>> menu can they be found, they aren't there.
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>>   Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in 
>>> the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share 
>>> item is on that menu.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
 file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
 duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They 
 used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub menu isn't 
 there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i 
 were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", 
 "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or folder.
 /Krister
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
> 
> There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
> If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
> items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
> vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a share 
> folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. If you 
> are focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you do 
> vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus isn't working properly. What 
> usually works for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor tracking 
> off and back on again.
> 
> Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras 
> (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently 
> added and various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to 
> access, more so than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on 
> this menu usually gets me into this area, but this is a totally different 
> thing than the sharing you are asking about.
> 
> Hth.
> 
> --
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
>> There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried 
>> for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable 
>> problem at least on my own.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>> VO shift m.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to 
 get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the 
 root directory of dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned 
 shortcut menu.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox 
> folder? Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my 
> dropbox and its content. Is that so and if not, how do i get my 
> rightclick menu back?
> /Krister
> 
>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :
>> 
>> Hi ray works like a charm here
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>> Skype: gerry.cook1
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>> O

Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Are you in Finder and using vo shift m on a file in the Dropbox folder?

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/4/2014 11:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Sorry, no such menu choice here. Only the standard right click menu. I'm
starting to believe i have serious problems here.
/Krister

4 okt 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev The Believer :

No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu choice was 4th from the top and said
"share ". Today it gives me "share dropbox link".

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. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :

Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in
the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share
item is on that menu.

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. . . what if it were true?
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On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :

Hth.

--
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On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried for
several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable problem at least on
my own.
/Krister

3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :

VO shift m.

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On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi,

Thanks,

Gabe

On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :

Hi ray works like a charm here
cheers gerry have a nice day
Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
Skype: gerry.cook1
Twitter: @gerrycook52

On 3 Oct 2014, at 10:09 pm, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

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Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Yes, there are only the standard menu choices that are there in every instance 
of the right click menus in the finder. No special dropbox menus or menu items. 
I've even tried going in from the finder by opening a hard drive and then using 
the side bar to go to the dropbox menu. No luck. 
/Krister

> 4 okt 2014 kl. 20:18 skrev The Believer :
> 
>   Are you in Finder and using vo shift m on a file in the Dropbox folder?
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/4/2014 11:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Sorry, no such menu choice here. Only the standard right click menu. I'm 
>> starting to believe i have serious problems here.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 4 okt 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>>   No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu choice was 
>>> 4th from the top and said "share ". Today it gives me "share 
>>> dropbox link".
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter 
 and facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some 
 system settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this 
 menu can they be found, they aren't there.
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :
> 
>   Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file 
> in the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The 
> share item is on that menu.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
>> file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
>> duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. 
>> They used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub 
>> menu isn't there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M 
>> menu adn if i were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find 
>> are "message", "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or 
>> folder.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>>> 
>>> There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
>>> If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
>>> items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
>>> vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a 
>>> share folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. 
>>> If you are focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you 
>>> do vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus isn't working properly. 
>>> What usually works for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor 
>>> tracking off and back on again.
>>> 
>>> Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu 
>>> extras (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and 
>>> recently added and various information and options. This is sometimes 
>>> tricky to access, more so than other menu extras items. For me, 
>>> vo-shift-space on this menu usually gets me into this area, but this is 
>>> a totally different thing than the sharing you are asking about.
>>> 
>>> Hth.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and 
 tried for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an 
 unsolvable problem at least on my own.
 /Krister
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
> 
> VO shift m.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu 
>> to get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in 
>> the root directory of dropbox but don't know how t

Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Sorry, no such menu here. I'm starting to think i have serious problems here.
> 4 okt 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev The Believer :
> 
>   No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu choice was 
> 4th from the top and said "share ". Today it gives me "share 
> dropbox link".
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>> Been there, done that, and in the share menu are mail, airdrop, twitter and 
>> facebook i think and more... Choosing the "more" option brings up some 
>> system settings, but dropbox choices simply aren't there. Nowhere in this 
>> menu can they be found, they aren't there.
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>>   Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in 
>>> the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share 
>>> item is on that menu.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm sorry but no, there aren't such menu choices under vo+shift+m on any 
 file in the drop box folder. There are the usual finder commands like 
 duplicate, burn, copy etc but nothing like what you describe at all. They 
 used to be under a sub menu there called "dropbox" but that sub menu isn't 
 there anymore and no such commands under the root vo+shift+M menu adn if i 
 were to go into the "share" option, the only things i find are "message", 
 "airdrop" and i believe "email" nothing about link or folder.
 /Krister
 
> 3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
> 
> There wouldn't be a "dropbox" menu under vo-shift-m.
> If you go into your dropbox directory and do vo-shift-m on one of the 
> items, there is a whole menu of items as you arrow down or do 
> vo-down-arrow, and in there you will find a share link as well as a share 
> folder and a share that has email, message and airdrop under it. If you 
> are focussed on a dropbox item and don't get the menu when you do 
> vo-shift-m, it means something in your focus isn't working properly. What 
> usually works for me under these circumstances is to turn cursor tracking 
> off and back on again.
> 
> Just to cover the bases, there is also a dropbox menu in your menu extras 
> (vo-m (not shift-m for this) twice. This shows settings and recently 
> added and various information and options. This is sometimes tricky to 
> access, more so than other menu extras items. For me, vo-shift-space on 
> this menu usually gets me into this area, but this is a totally different 
> thing than the sharing you are asking about.
> 
> Hth.
> 
> --
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
>> There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried 
>> for several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable 
>> problem at least on my own.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :
>>> 
>>> VO shift m.
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm also missing the instruction of how to get to the shortcut menu to 
 get the link to share. I get the part about putting the file in the 
 root directory of dropbox but don't know how to get to the mentioned 
 shortcut menu.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Gabe
 
 
 On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom 
  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> Is the rightclick menu that says "dropbox" gone from the Mac dropbox 
> folder? Seems i have to go into the web site to do things with my 
> dropbox and its content. Is that so and if not, how do i get my 
> rightclick menu back?
> /Krister
> 
>> 3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook :
>> 
>> Hi ray works like a charm here
>> cheers gerry have a nice day
>> Email: gerryc...@optusnet.com.au
>> Skype: gerry.cook1
>> Twitter: @gerrycook52
>> 
>> On 3 Oct 2014, at 10:09 pm, Ray Foret Jr  
>> wro

Re: to the user having issues with their Drop box and sharing files

Not sure what more I can say. The right click, context, shortcut,
menu contains standard menu items plus whatever is unique to the program
or file its been activated on. In this case I am seeing the desired
options by selectiing a file then doing the vo shift m.

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/4/2014 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Yes, there are only the standard menu choices that are there in every instance
of the right click menus in the finder. No special dropbox menus or menu items.
I've even tried going in from the finder by opening a hard drive and then using
the side bar to go to the dropbox menu. No luck.
/Krister

4 okt 2014 kl. 20:18 skrev The Believer :

Are you in Finder and using vo shift m on a file in the Dropbox folder?

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/4/2014 11:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

Sorry, no such menu choice here. Only the standard right click menu. I'm
starting to believe i have serious problems here.
/Krister

4 okt 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev The Believer :

No, not the share submenu. Yesterday when I did this, the menu choice was 4th from the top and said
"share ". Today it gives me "share dropbox link".

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/4/2014 1:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 20:55 skrev The Believer :

Open Finder, find Dropbox in the sidebar, navigate to the desired file in
the right pane, vo shift m to bring up the shortcut/context menu. The share
item is on that menu.

From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/3/2014 11:10 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 18:52 skrev Cheryl Homiak :

Hth.

--
Cheryl

On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

There is no "dropbox" menu for me under vo+shift+m, I've tried and tried for
several versions now and have given up and deemed this an unsolvable problem at least on
my own.
/Krister

3 okt 2014 kl. 17:51 skrev The Believer :

VO shift m.

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. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 10/3/2014 8:49 AM, Gabe Griffith wrote:

Hi,

Thanks,

Gabe

On Oct 3, 2014, at 6:40 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

3 okt 2014 kl. 14:43 skrev Gerry Cook

iOS 8.0.2 crashes regularly and other issues.

2014-10-04 Thread Sean Murphy

Hello all.


How is people finding the new version of iOS on their iPhones? I am finding it 
crashing regularly. I just have reset my settings hoping it would have resolved 
things. It didn't. For example, if I open MDN (mac daily news), open an article 
and start to read. Once the APP initiates a a refresh for the article. Vo stops 
speaking and kicks me back to the home screen. 

On the home screen, I cannot filter the list of apps when using hand writing 
mode. In fact, if I swipe down by two fingers, I do get the list of aps. But I 
cannot execute any after pressing a double tap. It appears VO once again 
crashes. I hear "screen curtain turn on" or "Voice-Over started".

The only thing I have not yet tried before rolling back to 7. Is a complete 
reset. This is going to annoy me since I have a lot of mail that I might lose.  
Does the backup save your mail?

There are other issues, so please let me know how people are going with this 
version.

Sean 

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How do i get rid of the preview pane in Mail?

Hi there,
Just wondering how i go about getting rid of the preview pane in mail? I’ve 
totally forgotten how so i need a reminder.:-)
/Krister

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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

2014-10-04 Thread Alex Hall

I don't know about the app, but someone at TD Bank once told me that the site 
doesn't like logging in with Safari, kind of. Here's the weirdest workaround 
I've ever heard of, but it does work: use Google. Search for the TD Bank site 
with a search engine, then go to it using a search result (of course, double 
check that you're on the actual site once you get there). Log in that way, and 
it should work fine.
On Oct 4, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> These queries are for any fellow list members who use the TD Bank US iPhone 
> app and on-line banking on the tdbank.com web site:
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Web site:
> A couple of years ago, I went from having full access to the site to being 
> thrown off as soon as I logged in. This has never changed, despite playing 
> around with Java, updating OS 10 software, trying different browsers, nothing.
> (I can read the main site and all links and information just fine, but as 
> soon as I log in to do my banking . . . poof!)
> 
> 
> 2. The iPhone app:
> It did not have all the features of the site, but what it did offer was fully 
> accessible from the time of the app's debut . . . until I tried paying a bill 
> yesterday.
> I was able to transfer money as usual.  However, when I attempted to pay a 
> bill, I saw that the layout had changed slightly, and despite filling out all 
> of the fields, it froze on the "enter payment amount" screen, even though 
> VoiceOver was reading the payment amount I had written in.
> According to a sighted assistant, the amount could not be seen. When he shut 
> off VoiceOver, all went fine.
> Very frustrating, since I am the one who takes care of all household bills.
> I would like to hear others' experiences with this app and web site, and if 
> anyone has discovered a workaround for either, or preferably, both.
> Thanks in advance. 
> Christine
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RE: iOS 8.0.2 crashes regularly and other issues.

2014-10-04 Thread Rick Alfaro

Hi.

Like you, my iPhone 5s had all kinds of funky issues after going to IOS 8
and then 8.02. I never did 8.01. Lots of crashing apps, and AirPlay not
working properly. I'm in the process of restoring right now hoping most of
this stuff is finally gone. I believe others have also resolved these types
of issues by restoring.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

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Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2014 3:17 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 8.0.2 crashes regularly and other issues.

Hello all.


How is people finding the new version of iOS on their iPhones? I am finding
it crashing regularly. I just have reset my settings hoping it would have
resolved things. It didn't. For example, if I open MDN (mac daily news),
open an article and start to read. Once the APP initiates a a refresh for
the article. Vo stops speaking and kicks me back to the home screen. 

On the home screen, I cannot filter the list of apps when using hand writing
mode. In fact, if I swipe down by two fingers, I do get the list of aps. But
I cannot execute any after pressing a double tap. It appears VO once again
crashes. I hear "screen curtain turn on" or "Voice-Over started".

The only thing I have not yet tried before rolling back to 7. Is a complete
reset. This is going to annoy me since I have a lot of mail that I might
lose.  Does the backup save your mail?

There are other issues, so please let me know how people are going with this
version.

Sean 

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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

2014-10-04 Thread John Panarese

   The website will crash in Safari and Google Chrome.  Not so much in Chrome 
as Safari.  Firefox will be fine, but it's tougher to navigate your statements 
in Firefox.

   The app is great for the iPhone.


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> These queries are for any fellow list members who use the TD Bank US iPhone 
> app and on-line banking on the tdbank.com web site:
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Web site:
> A couple of years ago, I went from having full access to the site to being 
> thrown off as soon as I logged in. This has never changed, despite playing 
> around with Java, updating OS 10 software, trying different browsers, nothing.
> (I can read the main site and all links and information just fine, but as 
> soon as I log in to do my banking . . . poof!)
> 
> 
> 2. The iPhone app:
> It did not have all the features of the site, but what it did offer was fully 
> accessible from the time of the app's debut . . . until I tried paying a bill 
> yesterday.
> I was able to transfer money as usual.  However, when I attempted to pay a 
> bill, I saw that the layout had changed slightly, and despite filling out all 
> of the fields, it froze on the "enter payment amount" screen, even though 
> VoiceOver was reading the payment amount I had written in.
> According to a sighted assistant, the amount could not be seen. When he shut 
> off VoiceOver, all went fine.
> Very frustrating, since I am the one who takes care of all household bills.
> I would like to hear others' experiences with this app and web site, and if 
> anyone has discovered a workaround for either, or preferably, both.
> Thanks in advance. 
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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

2014-10-04 Thread Karen Lewellen


Suggestion, if this is important to you.
I know directly from tD bank senior staff  that they are upgrading their 
accessibility  at all levels.
without hearing from customers about an issue, they may not fix it and 
they sincerely want to fix things.
I would strongly suggest contacting them.  if you wish to do this,  and 
prefer not calling randomly, drop me an email and I will share it for you.
The idea that you can only reach the place and log in using a google search 
is nonsensical.

Kare

On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Alex Hall wrote:


I don't know about the app, but someone at TD Bank once told me that the site 
doesn't like logging in with Safari, kind of. Here's the weirdest workaround 
I've ever heard of, but it does work: use Google. Search for the TD Bank site 
with a search engine, then go to it using a search result (of course, double 
check that you're on the actual site once you get there). Log in that way, and 
it should work fine.
On Oct 4, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:


These queries are for any fellow list members who use the TD Bank US iPhone app 
and on-line banking on the tdbank.com web site:



1. Web site:
A couple of years ago, I went from having full access to the site to being 
thrown off as soon as I logged in. This has never changed, despite playing 
around with Java, updating OS 10 software, trying different browsers, nothing.
(I can read the main site and all links and information just fine, but as soon 
as I log in to do my banking . . . poof!)


2. The iPhone app:
It did not have all the features of the site, but what it did offer was fully 
accessible from the time of the app's debut . . . until I tried paying a bill 
yesterday.
I was able to transfer money as usual.  However, when I attempted to pay a bill, I saw 
that the layout had changed slightly, and despite filling out all of the fields, it froze 
on the "enter payment amount" screen, even though VoiceOver was reading the 
payment amount I had written in.
According to a sighted assistant, the amount could not be seen. When he shut 
off VoiceOver, all went fine.
Very frustrating, since I am the one who takes care of all household bills.
I would like to hear others' experiences with this app and web site, and if 
anyone has discovered a workaround for either, or preferably, both.
Thanks in advance.
Christine

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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread Faisal

Preview has a lot of limitations especially for college students with advance 
PDF files. I could never get preview to do anything I want such as doing 
searches for phrases, not to mention there is way to create bookmarks or 
anything. Completely useless for academic articles.
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> This is a brand-new MacBook Air with no Adobe Reader history. Downloaded the 
> latest version two days ago. 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread David Griffith

Personally I have junked Preview in favour of reading PDF with Nisus   Writer 
Pro. This appears to read fine to me so far and of course has the advantage of 
making the PDF editable.
I realise this is not a free option but worth considering if you happen to have 
Nisus already.

David Griffith  
On 4 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Faisal  wrote:

> Preview has a lot of limitations especially for college students with advance 
> PDF files. I could never get preview to do anything I want such as doing 
> searches for phrases, not to mention there is way to create bookmarks or 
> anything. Completely useless for academic articles.
> On Oct 4, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Christine Grassman  
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>> latest version two days ago. 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread denise avant

Hi,
thanks for your response.  I am asking because I want the choice. Where did you 
get this program and how much was it?

On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

> Personally I have junked Preview in favour of reading PDF with Nisus   Writer 
> Pro. This appears to read fine to me so far and of course has the advantage 
> of making the PDF editable.
> I realise this is not a free option but worth considering if you happen to 
> have Nisus already.
> 
> David Griffith  
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Faisal  wrote:
> 
>> Preview has a lot of limitations especially for college students with 
>> advance PDF files. I could never get preview to do anything I want such as 
>> doing searches for phrases, not to mention there is way to create bookmarks 
>> or anything. Completely useless for academic articles.
>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a brand-new MacBook Air with no Adobe Reader history. Downloaded 
>>> the latest version two days ago. 
>>> Christine
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Re: iOS 8.0.2 crashes regularly and other issues.

2014-10-04 Thread Erik Heil

Hello Everyone, new wine. First of all, thank you for starting this thread.
I'm going to try and describe some of the bugs that I have described.
Perhaps this is related to my setup, but we will see. Ok guys, on to the
bugs.
The first bug that I noticed, is there. First of all, I miss mention that
this is not a bug. I OS 8, however in a present for at least a few
releases. This is related to list elements, and how they are handled by
voice over. Interest you enough, this only comes in to contact when certain
elements are being used. An example of this bug, look at the article a
history of Mac OS X, or, Mac OS. This can be found on Wikipedia. It should
be noted that not all lists actually have this bug. I think it may be
related to how was over actually Parsons the lists. You wine the next bug I
like to introduce is the bug that has to do with touch tones. Or I should
say, touch-tone keys. This bug does not happen often, but when it does, you
either have to close the phone application, or reboot the device in order
for the DTMF tones to stop playing. I have personally discovered this bug.
Another bug which happen this is related to voice over crashing in certain
circumstances. Couple days ago I was looking at a profile with the new
Facebook app.. However, it should be noted that this is not just a normal
crash. 3 and why it is not a normal crash is due to the simple fact that
when I attempted to restart the server, it did not work. Interestingly
enough, if I was to tell Siri to start over, confirm, there is no speech at
all from the device., device., they may not be able to do this. Luckily, I
would know that you have to double tap the screen after holding down the
power button. Booted, did come back, and everything was back to normal.
This is a showstopper, and should not have been introduced in hos. After
all, this operating system was tested. I understand that bugs do occur, and
they are simply a normal process of developing software. However, I believe
that they should have been work all the control. I would like to hear any
comments any of you have. Thank you for all your time. Eric
On Oct 4, 2014 3:16 PM, "Sean Murphy"  wrote:

> Hello all.
>
>
> How is people finding the new version of iOS on their iPhones? I am
> finding it crashing regularly. I just have reset my settings hoping it
> would have resolved things. It didn't. For example, if I open MDN (mac
> daily news), open an article and start to read. Once the APP initiates a a
> refresh for the article. Vo stops speaking and kicks me back to the home
> screen.
>
> On the home screen, I cannot filter the list of apps when using hand
> writing mode. In fact, if I swipe down by two fingers, I do get the list of
> aps. But I cannot execute any after pressing a double tap. It appears VO
> once again crashes. I hear "screen curtain turn on" or "Voice-Over started".
>
> The only thing I have not yet tried before rolling back to 7. Is a
> complete reset. This is going to annoy me since I have a lot of mail that I
> might lose.  Does the backup save your mail?
>
> There are other issues, so please let me know how people are going with
> this version.
>
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread denise avant

is Google Chrome helpful with this?

On Oct 4, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> Can't find anything which would use Preview to read pdf documents on-line. 
> Within the security tab in Safari, I found configure web settings, and the 
> only choices given were Adobe Reader, QuickTime, and Java plug-ins. There was 
> a warning that using Adobe Reader might compromise personal information. 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread David Griffith

I believe that Nisus Writer Pro is available from Mac-update and also the App 
Store.
>From memory it cost about £40 when I bought it but it appears on offer 
>regularly as part of bundles from MacUpdate.
To be clear Nisus Writer Pro is a fully fledged Word Processor and some believe 
it it the best available for the mac. It unlikely that anybody would buy Nisus 
just for reading PDF documents but I thought I would mention it in case people 
already have it and do not realise that it it can also be used to read and edit 
PDF files.

David Griffith

On 4 Oct 2014, at 22:32, denise avant  wrote:

> Hi,
> thanks for your response.  I am asking because I want the choice. Where did 
> you get this program and how much was it?
> 
> On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
>> Personally I have junked Preview in favour of reading PDF with Nisus   
>> Writer Pro. This appears to read fine to me so far and of course has the 
>> advantage of making the PDF editable.
>> I realise this is not a free option but worth considering if you happen to 
>> have Nisus already.
>> 
>> David Griffith  
>> On 4 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Faisal  wrote:
>> 
>>> Preview has a lot of limitations especially for college students with 
>>> advance PDF files. I could never get preview to do anything I want such as 
>>> doing searches for phrases, not to mention there is way to create bookmarks 
>>> or anything. Completely useless for academic articles.
>>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 This is a brand-new MacBook Air with no Adobe Reader history. Downloaded 
 the latest version two days ago. 
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Re: adobe reader for the mac

2014-10-04 Thread Deb Lewis

I had no idea that Nisus would read PDF's. That's the best tidbit I've
had all week.
I frankly find Preview totally worthless unless you just want to hear
your file as a data dump. I usually need to read more carefully and
don't want to just hear a text string with no ability to start and
stop, spell words etc. PDF has been one of the most annoying aspects
of the Mac.


On 10/4/14, David Griffith  wrote:
> I believe that Nisus Writer Pro is available from Mac-update and also the
> App Store.
> From memory it cost about £40 when I bought it but it appears on offer
> regularly as part of bundles from MacUpdate.
> To be clear Nisus Writer Pro is a fully fledged Word Processor and some
> believe it it the best available for the mac. It unlikely that anybody would
> buy Nisus just for reading PDF documents but I thought I would mention it in
> case people already have it and do not realise that it it can also be used
> to read and edit PDF files.
>
> David Griffith
>
> On 4 Oct 2014, at 22:32, denise avant  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> thanks for your response.  I am asking because I want the choice. Where
>> did you get this program and how much was it?
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2014, at 3:42 PM, David Griffith 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I have junked Preview in favour of reading PDF with Nisus
>>> Writer Pro. This appears to read fine to me so far and of course has the
>>> advantage of making the PDF editable.
>>> I realise this is not a free option but worth considering if you happen
>>> to have Nisus already.
>>>
>>> David Griffith
>>> On 4 Oct 2014, at 21:06, Faisal  wrote:
>>>
 Preview has a lot of limitations especially for college students with
 advance PDF files. I could never get preview to do anything I want such
 as doing searches for phrases, not to mention there is way to create
 bookmarks or anything. Completely useless for academic articles.
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> Downloaded the latest version two days ago.
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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

I tried Alex's Google search suggestion, with the exact same result. Don't like 
Firefox at all, since (at least the last time I tried it), it was pretty 
useless with VO. 
The iPhone app was fantastic until yesterday; however, it was never enough, as 
I could not check history of payments or similar tasks.

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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

Google did not work. I did call their accessibility number as listed on 
their web site the other night. The young woman had never heard of VoiceOver; 
her supervisor got on and tried to help me use Java to fix it. No fix. I asked 
them to please pass this problem along.  I was told they had never heard about 
this issue before. 
If you have a different and more knowledgeable contact, I would love to hear 
about it.
Christine

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Re: TD Bank US app: Other experiences?

2014-10-04 Thread John Panarese

   Firefox is now not bad.  It's just the problem being using VO navigation 
commands doesn't seem to work.

   What can't you do with the iOS app?  I check my deposit history and payment 
history without any problem.  


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On Oct 4, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I tried Alex's Google search suggestion, with the exact same result. Don't 
> like Firefox at all, since (at least the last time I tried it), it was pretty 
> useless with VO. 
> The iPhone app was fantastic until yesterday; however, it was never enough, 
> as I could not check history of payments or similar tasks.
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