Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Donna,

In most cases, I would save the attachment and then open it from the folder to 
which I saved it.

However, if I want to open the attachment from the message body, I first 
interact with the text of the message, then vo+arrow keys to find the name of 
the attachment (voiceover says something like embedded image and name of the 
attachment) and this is normally located at the bottom of the message so you 
can try and jump to the bottom of the message first and then interact with the 
text of the message.  Once you land on the name of the attachment, perform the 
vo+shift+m command to open contextual menu for this item.  You should now have 
a few choices, one of them being "open attachment".  Activate it in the usual 
way.  This should open the attachment in the appropriate application.  Then you 
can decide whether you want to save it from within the app or not.

Hope this helps

Andrew
On 22 Jul 2014, at 01:41, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hmm.  Ok. I tried all of those things and none of them worked.  Maybe there's 
> something weird about the attachment.
> 
> Thanks anyway for responding.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Jul 21, 2014, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>>  What do you mean.  You can open the message and navigate to the attachment 
>> to do a VO-shift-m on it or simply do a command-y on the message to Quick 
>> Look the attachment where you can also open it.  Nothing has changed to my 
>> knowledge.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
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>> Lion
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I have a message with a PDF attached, and can't open it for the life of me. 
>>>  What's up?  What is the new way for doing this?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Donna Goodin]

Interesting.  I could swear I've used it for both. lol

Thanks, Anne.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2014, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Donna,
> 
> Quick Look doesn't work with either PDFs or Pages documents. You have to save 
> them somewhere and open them with the appropriate app.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks.  I've done that millions of times, but it isn't working with this 
attachment.  
Thanks,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Donna,
> 
> In most cases, I would save the attachment and then open it from the folder 
> to which I saved it.
> 
> However, if I want to open the attachment from the message body, I first 
> interact with the text of the message, then vo+arrow keys to find the name of 
> the attachment (voiceover says something like embedded image and name of the 
> attachment) and this is normally located at the bottom of the message so you 
> can try and jump to the bottom of the message first and then interact with 
> the text of the message.  Once you land on the name of the attachment, 
> perform the vo+shift+m command to open contextual menu for this item.  You 
> should now have a few choices, one of them being "open attachment".  Activate 
> it in the usual way.  This should open the attachment in the appropriate 
> application.  Then you can decide whether you want to save it from within the 
> app or not.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew
> On 22 Jul 2014, at 01:41, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hmm.  Ok. I tried all of those things and none of them worked.  Maybe 
>> there's something weird about the attachment.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway for responding.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> What do you mean.  You can open the message and navigate to the attachment 
>>> to do a VO-shift-m on it or simply do a command-y on the message to Quick 
>>> Look the attachment where you can also open it.  Nothing has changed to my 
>>> knowledge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a message with a PDF attached, and can't open it for the life of 
 me.  What's up?  What is the new way for doing this?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you are 
using activities with voiceover?

I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got several 
activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, for 
example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to speed 
things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought I'd ask..
Thanks,
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Re: activities

[isaac . hebert]

Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

> Hi,
> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you are 
> using activities with voiceover?
> 
> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got several 
> activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, for 
> example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to speed 
> things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought I'd 
> ask..
> Thanks,
> Cait
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Re: activities

[Alex Hall]

The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to cause 
slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize that is 
not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to let them 
know about the problem.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>> are using activities with voiceover?
>> 
>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
>> speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
>> I'd ask..
>> Thanks,
>> Cait
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Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Terje Strømberg]

Sometimes this happens here also. Don't think this worked the last time, but 
when vo has focus on the attachment, interact and archive in Finder and open it 
form within Finder.

Take care

22. juli 2014 kl. 10:53 skrev Donna Goodin :

Hi Andrew,

Thanks.  I've done that millions of times, but it isn't working with this 
attachment.  
Thanks,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Donna,
> 
> In most cases, I would save the attachment and then open it from the folder 
> to which I saved it.
> 
> However, if I want to open the attachment from the message body, I first 
> interact with the text of the message, then vo+arrow keys to find the name of 
> the attachment (voiceover says something like embedded image and name of the 
> attachment) and this is normally located at the bottom of the message so you 
> can try and jump to the bottom of the message first and then interact with 
> the text of the message.  Once you land on the name of the attachment, 
> perform the vo+shift+m command to open contextual menu for this item.  You 
> should now have a few choices, one of them being "open attachment".  Activate 
> it in the usual way.  This should open the attachment in the appropriate 
> application.  Then you can decide whether you want to save it from within the 
> app or not.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Andrew
> On 22 Jul 2014, at 01:41, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hmm.  Ok. I tried all of those things and none of them worked.  Maybe 
>> there's something weird about the attachment.
>> 
>> Thanks anyway for responding.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 5:11 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>>> What do you mean.  You can open the message and navigate to the attachment 
>>> to do a VO-shift-m on it or simply do a command-y on the message to Quick 
>>> Look the attachment where you can also open it.  Nothing has changed to my 
>>> knowledge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I have a message with a PDF attached, and can't open it for the life of 
 me.  What's up?  What is the new way for doing this?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: activities

[Brian Fischler]

I have also noticed this as I have a lot of different voices for different 
apps. What I have noticed when everything is working there is only a slight 
delay when switching from say mail to safari, but for some reason every now and 
then things slow to a halt almost making the computer unusable. When this 
happens I restart my computer. Yes this is frustrating as I hate restarting but 
it seems to get everything playing nice together again.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
> activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
> cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
> that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
> let them know about the problem.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
>> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>>> are using activities with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
>>> speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
>>> I'd ask..
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
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Re: sendspace wizard for Mac

[David Griffith]

Sendspace is accessible and i believe that there are some guidance 
instructions on Apple Vis.


If you have used Sendspace on Windows you will find most of the commands 
will also work on the Mac version but substitute command for control.


Folder navigation is a little tricky but  the Guidance on Apple Vis may 
help here.


David Griffith

On 12/10/2011 05:26, Paul Henrichsen wrote:
Yes. I use it all the time. Chris Gilland has done an excellent 
tutorial on using it.
There is a turn on features for voiceover button, but it has been a 
few months and I don't remember where it is. Probably in preferences.

Perhaps someone else on the list can jog my memory.
But I do use it to download files at least.

On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

I would like to know the same thing as I want to sign up for 
sendspace as well.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-06, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Hi everyone.
I'm interested in signing up for sendspace but I have a question.
Have any of you used the sendspace wizard for mac? Was or is it 
accessible with VoiceOver?

If not, my search for an accessible dropBox alternative continues.
Thanks to all who answer.

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Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Christina C.]

I had major issues with an attachment yesterday.  No matter what I did, nothing 
would happen. I would bring up the context menu and I tried, open, save as, and 
save to downloads. Nothing would happen though. I also realized later there 
were actually two attachments. Finally, the one thing that seemed to work, or I 
got really lucky, was to use an actual mouse click on the attachment instead of 
my keyboard to bring up the context menu. I really feel, I finally just got 
lucky. Anyways, you could try using an actual mouse click. I think you hold 
down the control key on your keyboard and then click with your trackpad/mouse. 
Also, I have mouse tracking on. My mouse pointer always follows my voiceover 
cursor.

If you find a fix, I'd love to know,
Christina

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Re: activities

[David Taylor]

Hi,

I have emailed Apple Accessibility about this in the past. I have noticed that 
only some Nuance voices are affected, Serena being one, Moira not much at all 
though.

Cheers
Dave

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> The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
> activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
> cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
> that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
> let them know about the problem.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
>> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>>> are using activities with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
>>> speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
>>> I'd ask..
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
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Re: so how does one open an attachment in the latest iteration of mail?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Christina,

Yeah it's really strange.  I've never had problems with attachments before.  
thanks for the mouse click suggestion, that's one I hadn't thought of.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

> I had major issues with an attachment yesterday.  No matter what I did, 
> nothing would happen. I would bring up the context menu and I tried, open, 
> save as, and save to downloads. Nothing would happen though. I also realized 
> later there were actually two attachments. Finally, the one thing that seemed 
> to work, or I got really lucky, was to use an actual mouse click on the 
> attachment instead of my keyboard to bring up the context menu. I really 
> feel, I finally just got lucky. Anyways, you could try using an actual mouse 
> click. I think you hold down the control key on your keyboard and then click 
> with your trackpad/mouse. Also, I have mouse tracking on. My mouse pointer 
> always follows my voiceover cursor.
> 
> If you find a fix, I'd love to know,
> Christina
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
Cait

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> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>> are using activities with voiceover?
>> 
>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
>> speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
>> I'd ask..
>> Thanks,
>> Cait
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Well, I am using Alex for the default voice, but I do have some of the others 
for content, status, and so on.  So, maybe I'll just go back to using one voice 
for everything and see how that flies.
thanks for the reminder about emailing apple.  Will do.
Cait

On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
> activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
> cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
> that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
> let them know about the problem.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
>> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>>> are using activities with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
>>> speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
>>> I'd ask..
>>> Thanks,
>>> Cait
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Well, for the time being I just put all the voices back to Alex and things seem 
to be smoother.
I am just now playing with activities, so am not even sure I'll stick with the 
ones I now have set up.
thanks,
Cait

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> I have also noticed this as I have a lot of different voices for different 
> apps. What I have noticed when everything is working there is only a slight 
> delay when switching from say mail to safari, but for some reason every now 
> and then things slow to a halt almost making the computer unusable. When this 
> happens I restart my computer. Yes this is frustrating as I hate restarting 
> but it seems to get everything playing nice together again.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
>> activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
>> cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I 
>> realize that is not a solution. Please remember to email 
>> accessibil...@apple.com to let them know about the problem.
>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
>>> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change 
 windows, for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure 
 out how to speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, 
 but thought I'd ask..
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Re: activities

[Alex Hall]

I just don't use Activities. They are handy, but not useful enough to bother 
with for me.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:

> Hi,
> So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
> Cait
> 
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
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>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
>>> are using activities with voiceover?
>>> 
>>> I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
>>> several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
>>> for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
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>>> I'd ask..
>>> Thanks,
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

I suspect that I am going to come to the same conclusion.

Too early to tell yet, though.
Cait

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> I just don't use Activities. They are handy, but not useful enough to bother 
> with for me.
> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Caitlyn Furness  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
>> Cait
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
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>>> apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
>>> On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change 
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Apple Reports Third Quarter Results

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Apple Reports Third Quarter Results

Apple today announced financial results for its fiscal 2014 third quarter ended 
June 28, 2014. The company posted quarterly revenue of $37.4 billion and 
quarterly net profit of $7.7 billion, or $1.28 per diluted share. These results 
compare to revenue of $35.3 billion and net profit of $6.9 billion, or $1.07 
per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 39.4 percent 
compared to 36.9 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted 
for 59 percent of the quarter's revenue. Apple's board of directors has 
declared a cash dividend of $.47 per share of the company's common stock. The 
dividend is payable on August 14, 2014, to shareholders of record as of the 
close of business on August 11, 2014. "Our record June quarter revenue was 
fueled by strong sales of iPhone and Mac and the continued growth of revenue 
from the Apple ecosystem, driving our highest EPS growth rate in seven 
quarters," said Tim Cook, Apple's CEO. "We are incredibly excited about the 
upcoming releases of iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite, as well as other new products and 
services that we can't wait to introduce."
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