Re: Skype for Mac

2014-06-07 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Wow, Jonathan, I didn't know the short cuts existed.  Thank you.

Kawal.
> On 7 Jun 2014, at 06:13 am, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> The command to answer a call is Command+Shift+R. This will also initiate a 
> call on the focussed contact if you use it when there's no incoming call.
> Skype for Mac is absolutely packed with keyboard shortcuts. The full list is 
> here:
> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12074/what-keyboard-shortcuts-can-i-use-with-skype-for-mac-os-x
> Jonathan Mosen
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> 
>> On 7/06/2014, at 1:32 pm, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Further to what Alex has said, you can see your list of contacts by 
>> interacting with the table on the left, focusing on contacts, uninteract and 
>> move to the right with vo right arrow. Keep doing this until you find your 
>> list of contacts. That's how I do it anyway. 
>> There's no short cut for answering a call which is a shame, but there is for 
>> hanging up (command shift h).
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>>> On 7/06/2014, at 12:50 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's a table on the far left; interact with it, vi-down to "recent", and 
>>> under that you will find any pending contact requests. When you get a call, 
>>> a dialog appears; pressing enter will answer it. To hang up, go to the 
>>> Skype app and use cmd-shift-h, and cmd-shift-m to toggle the mute status of 
>>> your microphone on and off.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Lee Jones  wrote:
 
 Dear List, I have installed skype on my mac, but I can't figure out how to 
 accept a contact request.  I can't find my list of contacts.  I've been 
 through all the menus and I can't find a shortcut to answer a call.  How 
 do you do this?
 
 Many Thanks, Lee 
 
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Re: Skype for Mac

2014-06-07 Thread David Taylor
Hi, when you receive a call, you should get a dialog pop up, with answer being 
the default button, so simply pressing return will answer. The way I use Skype 
is to use VO-J to jump me between the table and other parts of the window. So I 
interact with the table and find where it says contacts, then VO-J jumps me 
straight into my contacts list and interacts. To change which contacts you see, 
uninteract and VO left to select whichever radio button you want, then 
VO-shift-right to get back to the list. VO-J from the contact list gets you 
back to the table again.

When you get a contact request, find it in the table, then use your item 
chooser or VO-right until you find the accept button. 

I love how Skype works on Mac, find it really fast and efficient.

Cheers
Dave

On 7 Jun 2014, at 01:46, Lee Jones  wrote:

> Dear List, I have installed skype on my mac, but I can't figure out how to 
> accept a contact request.  I can't find my list of contacts.  I've been 
> through all the menus and I can't find a shortcut to answer a call.  How do 
> you do this?
> 
> Many Thanks, Lee 
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Re: Activities

2014-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Anne,

Thanks for trying.  I have mine set to "Play Tone" as well.  I'll keep 
investigating.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:14 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Tim,
> 
> I'm not sure about this but I certainly don't get these announcements. Have a 
> look at what you have set for "When status changes" in VO 
> Utility/Verbosity/Announcements. I have it set to "Play tone".
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 Jun 2014, at 01:53, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Just lately started playing with Activities.  So, whenever I go into the app 
>> that I attached the Activity to, VO announces "blah blah activity" and 
>> "VoiceOver settings activity" when exiting.  This includes when I cmd-tab in 
>> and out of the app.  Is there a way to stop this extra verbosity?  There's 
>> likely logic behind it, but I don't care for it.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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Re: Double tap not opening mail messages?

2014-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alex,

The menu that it's opening is the Sort menu just beside the Messages Table.  
I'll play some more later but it seems like VO isn't properly focusing.  I 
don't use the TrackPad commander much as I'm a throwback to the infancy of VO 
and haven't progressed with the times.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm still on the MBA for now I prefer it, in fact, by I'm not supposed to use 
> it for personal use. Anyway, I noticed that when I double tap a message in 
> Mail, it does not open. A menu of some kind comes up, even when I've 
> interacted with the messages table. Pressing enter opens messages, so I 
> figured a double tap would do the same thing. I wonder why it doesn't?
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Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alex,

Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It sounds 
like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  They do 
look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when starting up 
from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas the thumb drive 
should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep trying if that’s not the 
case.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, partition 
> format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, and neither 
> are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions Tab screen is 
> unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a while to get back 
> to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you described.  
> I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest Apple Store is hours away, 
> and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That is, 
>> the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD is, not 
>> the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab and 
>> partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with name 
>> Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and ensure 
>> that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and you’ll have 
>> one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you run the 
>> Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition will be 
>> automatically created.
>> 
>> Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install Mavericks” 
>>> articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They seem to imply 
>>> that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, even if it is the 
>>> only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that you simply don’t erase 
>>> that partition at all. In your email, did you mean that the installer will 
>>> automatically create a partition of the proper size and name if one does 
>>> not already exist? I’d rather not go through this multiple times, so I want 
>>> to do everything right on the first try if I can. Thanks for your patience.
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
 starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition your 
 drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent partitions 
 should be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure that the 
 Recovery Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the other 
 individual got there info but this is sound practice.  If you used 
 DiskMaker X to create your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb 
 drive or the built-in “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks 
 Installer, then a proper Recovery Partition will be automatically created. 
  If you used the Disk Utility method, then the Recovery Partition must 
 have already existed in order to create a proper installation.  The 
 problem in your case is that you need to do a total re-format, so, using 
 the existing Recovery Partition is not of any benefit.  Refer to
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
 
 for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
 complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have 
 carried over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Thanks. I’m in the beta partition now, copying a few files over to my 
> external hard drive. The problem is here too: Finder just hung for about 
> thirty seconds, while my Mac’s HD made the sound I’ve come to dread. 
> Still, it’s working, thankfully; my main partition won’t even boot.
> 
> As to wiping, I’m still not sure what to do. I mean, I know how to format 
> the drive from the OS X on my thumb drive and then install, the question 
> is, what do I do with my partitions? I have two, one Macintosh HD and one 
> OS X Beta Partition. When I did a clean install back in March, I had only 
> the Macintosh HD partition and so didn’t need to worry. I reformatted 
> that partition, but didn’t actually erase it, as people I asked told me 
> that completely erasing the Macintosh HD partition could turn out badly. 
> Are you saying that I should

Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Teresa Cochran
this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked on 
the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the one just 
to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can choose the 
thumb drive from there. 

Teresa

Slow down; you’ll get there faster.

On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It sounds 
> like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  They do 
> look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when starting up 
> from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas the thumb drive 
> should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep trying if that’s not 
> the case.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, partition 
>> format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, and neither 
>> are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions Tab screen is 
>> unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a while to get back 
>> to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you described.  
>> I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest Apple Store is hours 
>> away, and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That is, 
>>> the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD is, 
>>> not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab and 
>>> partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with name 
>>> Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and ensure 
>>> that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and you’ll have 
>>> one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you run the 
>>> Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition will be 
>>> automatically created.
>>> 
>>> Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install Mavericks” 
 articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They seem to imply 
 that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, even if it is the 
 only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that you simply don’t erase 
 that partition at all. In your email, did you mean that the installer will 
 automatically create a partition of the proper size and name if one does 
 not already exist? I’d rather not go through this multiple times, so I 
 want to do everything right on the first try if I can. Thanks for your 
 patience.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
> starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition 
> your drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent 
> partitions should be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure that 
> the Recovery Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the other 
> individual got there info but this is sound practice.  If you used 
> DiskMaker X to create your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb 
> drive or the built-in “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks 
> Installer, then a proper Recovery Partition will be automatically 
> created.  If you used the Disk Utility method, then the Recovery 
> Partition must have already existed in order to create a proper 
> installation.  The problem in your case is that you need to do a total 
> re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is not of any 
> benefit.  Refer to
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
> 
> for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
> complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have 
> carried over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. I’m in the beta partition now, copying a few files over to my 
>> external hard drive. The problem is here too: Finder just hung for about 
>> thirty seconds, while my Mac’s HD made the sound I’ve come to dread. 
>> Still, it’s working, thankfully; my main partition won’t even boot.
>> 
>> As to wiping, I’m still not sure

Re: Accessible Open VPN

2014-06-07 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi,

Yes I tried 2 solutions, both of which do work. I'll add some explanations for 
those who are curious what vpn can do for you. But in short, these are usable 
for us:
www.proxpn.com, iphone as well as mac, and:
www.getcloak.com .

So what does vpn do for us, normal iphone users? An example.
If you are at a coffee shop and you get your mail from an old server at your 
provider, then your phone must log in to the mail service, so you can get your 
own mail. To do that, the phone in your hand needs to send your email 
credentials, i.e. your mail username and mail server password, over to the 
email server from which you want your mail to be sent to you. By design, email 
protocols do not encrypt anything. Normally, that is not an immediate problem. 
But when you are on a wifi hotspot, to your phone that is the same thing as if 
you connect to your private wifi lan at home. And at home, every computer can 
see and connect to all others. Likewise, In a coffee shop, all devices on the 
coffee shop's same wifi spot, can see each other as well. With a specialized 
program running on a laptop or on an Android phone from someone else in the 
shop, folks are able to see all traffic from all people, including from your 
own phone, that runs by inside the coffee shop's wifi network. Your phone is 
transmitting your email username and password through the air, so everything 
and everyone around you, can catch that, if they know how to do that. And it's 
not hard.

If people have your email password, they can visit sites, and ask for a 
password reset by email. And because the stranger now has access to your mail, 
they can change your password on your important sites, and that account of 
yours is then hacked. You don't want that to happen, do you?

Luckily, modern email servers allow you to set up an encrypted connection, 
starting from your phone all the way through the wifi and through the net, over 
to your mail server, so that's a better deal if you can have encrypted email, 
because no one along the way can read your traffic if it is encrypted. For that 
to work, your email provider must support secure mail using something called 
ssl. If you use ssl connections to get your mail while you are on an untrusted 
wifi network, then you're good to go. Unfortunately, not all and every internet 
service supports encrypted connections, so it would be nice to have a general 
solution, that covers not just your email traffic for your phone, but all 
traffic from and to the phone. And that's what vpn can solve.

A vpn eliminates this problem. Let me explain it this way. At home, your 
network is safe, because you own it. So, how awesome would it be, if you could 
make an encrypted connection from your phone in the coffee shop to your house, 
and then get safely on to the internet from there.Then, no one can look at your 
traffic. Well of course they can, but they will only see static noise, rubbish, 
garbage coming by, because that's what encryption does. 

If you had a vpn server running at home, then you could connect to it using 
your phone, while you are in a coffee shop, or in anotheruntrusted wifi 
network, and because it's vpn, virtual private network, your phone encrypts 
your traffic, sends it home, and the vpn server there, then throws it on to the 
internet just as usual. So if you had a vpn server yourself, you could 
communicate through it in a very safe way, because folks around you cannot see 
what you are doing, and therefore not get a hold of your passwords as they fly 
through the air, from your phone to the open wifi.

Unfortunately, running a vpn server at home is not easy. I've tried it, and boy 
is it frustrating. For me it worked, and then it stopped working. I managed to 
fix it, and something else broke. You can have a vpn server using a windows xp 
box at home, and you can also do it on a mac at home, and probably on windows 7 
or 8 but I'm not sure of those, but most people will agree that it is 
troublesome.

So therefore, commercial companies exist that do a good job. The principle is 
the same. Now, you make an encrypted vpn tunnel using your phone, not to your 
house, but into the commercial vpn server, run by the company you choose. From 
there, your traffic is decrypted, and then sent on, through the regular 
internet. To the service you are using, it will lokk as if you are physically 
located at the same place where the vpn server is.

It's not very expensive, a few bucks a month ranging from 3 or 4 to ten, 
depending on who you choose. And it's a nice way to protect yourself from other 
machines seeing your traffic. I was in Turky, and from my hotel, I could not 
listen to Dutch radio streams. But when I turned on my vpn, which was allowed, 
my tunnel ended in the Netherlands, and from there, the hotel could not block 
me from listening to my favorite local news stream, because the vpn connection 
is encrypted, so filters inside the hotel wifi prohibiting me from doing stuff, 
can't c

Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, I did the startup disk selection yesterday, from the Apple menu. My thumb 
drive is still the selected disk (oddly, my beta partition has vanished, even 
though I haven’t yet erased anything). The second item in the initial list is 
indeed “install”, not “reinstall”, so it looks like I’m definitely on the thumb 
drive. Stranger by the day…

On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
> external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked on 
> the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the one 
> just to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can choose 
> the thumb drive from there. 
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
> 
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It sounds 
>> like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  They do 
>> look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when starting up 
>> from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas the thumb 
>> drive should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep trying if 
>> that’s not the case.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, 
>>> partition format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, 
>>> and neither are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions 
>>> Tab screen is unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a 
>>> while to get back to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you 
>>> described.  I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest Apple 
>>> Store is hours away, and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That 
 is, the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD 
 is, not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab 
 and partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with 
 name Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and 
 ensure that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and 
 you’ll have one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you 
 run the Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition 
 will be automatically created.
 
 Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install 
> Mavericks” articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They 
> seem to imply that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, even 
> if it is the only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that you 
> simply don’t erase that partition at all. In your email, did you mean 
> that the installer will automatically create a partition of the proper 
> size and name if one does not already exist? I’d rather not go through 
> this multiple times, so I want to do everything right on the first try if 
> I can. Thanks for your patience.
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
>> starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition 
>> your drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent 
>> partitions should be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure 
>> that the Recovery Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the 
>> other individual got there info but this is sound practice.  If you used 
>> DiskMaker X to create your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb 
>> drive or the built-in “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks 
>> Installer, then a proper Recovery Partition will be automatically 
>> created.  If you used the Disk Utility method, then the Recovery 
>> Partition must have already existed in order to create a proper 
>> installation.  The problem in your case is that you need to do a total 
>> re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is not of any 
>> benefit.  Refer to
>> 
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2056561/how-to-make-a-bootable-mavericks-install-drive.html
>> 
>> for info on these limitations.  In addition, if you didn’t perform a 
>> complete wipe during your last clean install, these errors may have 
>> carried over thus any disk structure issues would have persisted.
>> 
>> Hope this makes s

Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alex,

How about we try this in Terminal instead.  Sometimes, Disk Utility has 
problems executing things if the drive is having issues.  You should be able to 
get into Terminal from your thumb drive by going up to the Utilities menu.

Enter the following:

diskutil list
(press return)
this will give you the BSD device name of your drive.
eg: "disk0”, disk1 etc.”
You should be able to determine which is your internal HD by reading through 
the resulting output.  You only want the initial name, like disk1, not disk1s2.

next:

diskutil unmount force /dev/disk_name
eg:
diskutil unmount force /dev/disk0

next:

diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk_name
eg:
diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk0
(press return)

After disk is zeroed, you can exit Terminal and try things again in Disk 
Utility.

Of course if your disk is indeed going bad, then our efforts to fix it will be 
fruitless and you may wish to get a new HD.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Yes, I did the startup disk selection yesterday, from the Apple menu. My 
> thumb drive is still the selected disk (oddly, my beta partition has 
> vanished, even though I haven’t yet erased anything). The second item in the 
> initial list is indeed “install”, not “reinstall”, so it looks like I’m 
> definitely on the thumb drive. Stranger by the day…
> 
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
>> external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked 
>> on the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the 
>> one just to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can 
>> choose the thumb drive from there. 
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It 
>>> sounds like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  
>>> They do look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when 
>>> starting up from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas 
>>> the thumb drive should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep 
>>> trying if that’s not the case.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, 
 partition format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, 
 and neither are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions 
 Tab screen is unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a 
 while to get back to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you 
 described.  I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest 
 Apple Store is hours away, and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That 
> is, the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD 
> is, not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab 
> and partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with 
> name Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and 
> ensure that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and 
> you’ll have one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you 
> run the Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition 
> will be automatically created.
> 
> Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install 
>> Mavericks” articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They 
>> seem to imply that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, 
>> even if it is the only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that 
>> you simply don’t erase that partition at all. In your email, did you 
>> mean that the installer will automatically create a partition of the 
>> proper size and name if one does not already exist? I’d rather not go 
>> through this multiple times, so I want to do everything right on the 
>> first try if I can. Thanks for your patience.
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
>>> starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition 
>>> your drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent 
>>> partitions should be done later on the live drive.  This will

Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Terje Strømberg
A member in a facebook group suggested this site for uppgrades etc. ship the 
mac back to you. Don’t know if thety are good, but they appears to be a serious 
company. 
http://eshop.macsales.com

If you don’t boot into your thumb drive, you boot into a black screen where 
Voice Over don’t work. You could be booting into your HDD by a mistake. 

Take care

8. juni 2014 kl. 00:53 skrev Alex Hall :

Yes, I did the startup disk selection yesterday, from the Apple menu. My thumb 
drive is still the selected disk (oddly, my beta partition has vanished, even 
though I haven’t yet erased anything). The second item in the initial list is 
indeed “install”, not “reinstall”, so it looks like I’m definitely on the thumb 
drive. Stranger by the day…

On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
> external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked on 
> the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the one 
> just to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can choose 
> the thumb drive from there. 
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
> 
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It sounds 
>> like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  They do 
>> look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when starting up 
>> from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas the thumb 
>> drive should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep trying if 
>> that’s not the case.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, 
>>> partition format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not dimmed, 
>>> and neither are the five tabs, but every other control in the Partitions 
>>> Tab screen is unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry about taking a 
>>> while to get back to me; I avoid all website work for just the reason you 
>>> described.  I’m just glad for the help; as I said, the nearest Apple 
>>> Store is hours away, and this machine isn’t covered anyway.
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That 
 is, the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD 
 is, not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab 
 and partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) with 
 name Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this window and 
 ensure that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this change and 
 you’ll have one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh HD”.  When you 
 run the Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the Recovery Partition 
 will be automatically created.
 
 Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install 
> Mavericks” articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They 
> seem to imply that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, even 
> if it is the only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that you 
> simply don’t erase that partition at all. In your email, did you mean 
> that the installer will automatically create a partition of the proper 
> size and name if one does not already exist? I’d rather not go through 
> this multiple times, so I want to do everything right on the first try if 
> I can. Thanks for your patience.
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> Yes, I’m saying that you should totally wipe the HD.  That is, after 
>> starting up from the thumb drive, go to Disk Utility and re-partition 
>> your drive to one partition named Macintosh HD.  Any subsequent 
>> partitions should be done later on the live drive.  This will ensure 
>> that the Recovery Partition is created properly.  Not sure where the 
>> other individual got there info but this is sound practice.  If you used 
>> DiskMaker X to create your bootable Mavericks Installer, on the thumb 
>> drive or the built-in “Create Install Media” utility of the Mavericks 
>> Installer, then a proper Recovery Partition will be automatically 
>> created.  If you used the Disk Utility method, then the Recovery 
>> Partition must have already existed in order to create a proper 
>> installation.  The problem in your case is that you need to do a total 
>> re-format, so, using the existing Recovery Partition is not of any 

Re: Editing Tables in Pages

2014-06-07 Thread Nicholas Parsons
VO-space also works, but as you say return is probably the easiest.

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Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Alex Hall
It’s been an hour, and we’re at 48%. I have to be up early, so I’m headed to 
bed; hopefully this is done by tomorrow morning. I didn’t realize zeroing would 
erase the disk, so I had a moment of panic when it said “started erasing disk”; 
I wondered if I'd chosen the correct disk.  
On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> How about we try this in Terminal instead.  Sometimes, Disk Utility has 
> problems executing things if the drive is having issues.  You should be able 
> to get into Terminal from your thumb drive by going up to the Utilities menu.
> 
> Enter the following:
> 
> diskutil list
> (press return)
> this will give you the BSD device name of your drive.
> eg: "disk0”, disk1 etc.”
> You should be able to determine which is your internal HD by reading through 
> the resulting output.  You only want the initial name, like disk1, not 
> disk1s2.
> 
> next:
> 
> diskutil unmount force /dev/disk_name
> eg:
> diskutil unmount force /dev/disk0
> 
> next:
> 
> diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk_name
> eg:
> diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk0
> (press return)
> 
> After disk is zeroed, you can exit Terminal and try things again in Disk 
> Utility.
> 
> Of course if your disk is indeed going bad, then our efforts to fix it will 
> be fruitless and you may wish to get a new HD.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I did the startup disk selection yesterday, from the Apple menu. My 
>> thumb drive is still the selected disk (oddly, my beta partition has 
>> vanished, even though I haven’t yet erased anything). The second item in the 
>> initial list is indeed “install”, not “reinstall”, so it looks like I’m 
>> definitely on the thumb drive. Stranger by the day…
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from your 
>>> external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily blanked 
>>> on the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery partition) the 
>>> one just to the right of the apple menu and choose startup disc. You can 
>>> choose the thumb drive from there. 
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It 
 sounds like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead.  
 They do look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when 
 starting up from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas 
 the thumb drive should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep 
 trying if that’s not the case.
 
 Later…
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, 
> partition format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not 
> dimmed, and neither are the five tabs, but every other control in the 
> Partitions Tab screen is unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry 
> about taking a while to get back to me; I avoid all website work for just 
> the reason you described.  I’m just glad for the help; as I said, 
> the nearest Apple Store is hours away, and this machine isn’t covered 
> anyway.
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That 
>> is, the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your HD 
>> is, not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition tab 
>> and partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended (Journaled) 
>> with name Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button in this 
>> window and ensure that your HD will have the GUID schema.  Apply this 
>> change and you’ll have one volume on your drive with name “Macintosh 
>> HD”.  When you run the Mavericks Installer from your thumb drive, the 
>> Recovery Partition will be automatically created.
>> 
>> Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Sorry, I just want to clarify one point. All the “clean install 
>>> Mavericks” articles I’ve found say to format your disk/partition. They 
>>> seem to imply that you will magically have a Macintosh HD partition, 
>>> even if it is the only partition on an otherwise blank drive, or that 
>>> you simply don’t erase that partition at all. In your email, did you 
>>> mean that the installer will automatically create a partition of the 
>>> proper size and name if one does not already exist? I’d rather not go 
>>> through this

Re: Any final suggestions for my Mini's hard drive?

2014-06-07 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I had that same feeling earlier today when I wiped a server’s main HD.  Oh 
crap, did I remember to archive the directory or am I going to be here for 
hours restoring a backup or re-entering usernames.  Anyway, zeroing a drive 
will typically take quite a while, so sleeping through the thing is probably a 
good idea.

Hope it works this time.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> It’s been an hour, and we’re at 48%. I have to be up early, so I’m headed to 
> bed; hopefully this is done by tomorrow morning. I didn’t realize zeroing 
> would erase the disk, so I had a moment of panic when it said “started 
> erasing disk”; I wondered if I'd chosen the correct disk.  
> On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex,
>> 
>> How about we try this in Terminal instead.  Sometimes, Disk Utility has 
>> problems executing things if the drive is having issues.  You should be able 
>> to get into Terminal from your thumb drive by going up to the Utilities menu.
>> 
>> Enter the following:
>> 
>> diskutil list
>> (press return)
>> this will give you the BSD device name of your drive.
>> eg: "disk0”, disk1 etc.”
>> You should be able to determine which is your internal HD by reading through 
>> the resulting output.  You only want the initial name, like disk1, not 
>> disk1s2.
>> 
>> next:
>> 
>> diskutil unmount force /dev/disk_name
>> eg:
>> diskutil unmount force /dev/disk0
>> 
>> next:
>> 
>> diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk_name
>> eg:
>> diskutil zeroDisk /dev/disk0
>> (press return)
>> 
>> After disk is zeroed, you can exit Terminal and try things again in Disk 
>> Utility.
>> 
>> Of course if your disk is indeed going bad, then our efforts to fix it will 
>> be fruitless and you may wish to get a new HD.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I did the startup disk selection yesterday, from the Apple menu. My 
>>> thumb drive is still the selected disk (oddly, my beta partition has 
>>> vanished, even though I haven’t yet erased anything). The second item in 
>>> the initial list is indeed “install”, not “reinstall”, so it looks like I’m 
>>> definitely on the thumb drive. Stranger by the day…
>>> 
>>> On Jun 7, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 this might sound obvious, but the best way to ensure you start up from 
 your external drive is to go into the utilities menu, (I've temporarily 
 blanked on the name of the utilities app that runs in the recovery 
 partition) the one just to the right of the apple menu and choose startup 
 disc. You can choose the thumb drive from there. 
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
 
 On Jun 7, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> Are you sure that it’s actually starting up from the thumb drive?  It 
> sounds like your Mini is starting up from the Recovery Partition instead. 
>  They do look and feel just the same.  I think that the second item when 
> starting up from the Recovery Partition says “Re-install MacOS X” whereas 
> the thumb drive should say “Install MacOS X”.  Not sure but, I’ll keep 
> trying if that’s not the case.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 6, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I was going off memory earlier, so misspoke a bit. I see “current, 
>> partition format, popup button, but it is dimmed. The table is not 
>> dimmed, and neither are the five tabs, but every other control in the 
>> Partitions Tab screen is unusable for some reason. Also, don’t worry 
>> about taking a while to get back to me; I avoid all website work for 
>> just the reason you described.  I’m just glad for the help; as I 
>> said, the nearest Apple Store is hours away, and this machine isn’t 
>> covered anyway.
>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> What I’m asking you to do is, in Disk Utility, select your drive.  That 
>>> is, the thing that reads 1 TB Hitachi blah blah or whatever make your 
>>> HD is, not the already partitioned volumes.  Then, go to the Partition 
>>> tab and partition your HD with one partition, MacOS Extended 
>>> (Journaled) with name Macintosh HD.  As well, press the Options button 
>>> in this window and ensure that your HD will have the GUID schema.  
>>> Apply this change and you’ll have one volume on your drive with name 
>>> “Macintosh HD”.  When you run the Mavericks Installer from your thumb 
>>> drive, the Recovery Partition will be automatically created.
>>> 
>>> Hope this is clearer.  Sorry for any confusion.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 

Screen saver and VO?

2014-06-07 Thread Tristan
Hi,

Is there an option that I'm not noticing, that will stop the screen from
going off in the middle of reading something? I'll be reading a long article
with vo+A, and the screen will go dim and Voice Over will spout off the
contents of the authorization dialogue. I prefer to keep the screen
saver/auth dialogue, but if I have to get rid of it entirely to do so I can
live with it. It just seems sort of off that say, watching a movie or
something on Hulu in Safari doesn't go to the screen saver, but reading a
long document will leave you high and dry and turn off the screen.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Screen saver and VO?

2014-06-07 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Go to System Preferences > desktop and screen saver > screen saver tab.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 08/06/2014 06:42, Tristan wrote:

Hi,

Is there an option that I'm not noticing, that will stop the screen from
going off in the middle of reading something? I'll be reading a long article
with vo+A, and the screen will go dim and Voice Over will spout off the
contents of the authorization dialogue. I prefer to keep the screen
saver/auth dialogue, but if I have to get rid of it entirely to do so I can
live with it. It just seems sort of off that say, watching a movie or
something on Hulu in Safari doesn't go to the screen saver, but reading a
long document will leave you high and dry and turn off the screen.



Thanks in advance.



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RE: Screen saver and VO?

2014-06-07 Thread Tristan
I know about this. It doesn't seem to cover VO, though. For example, if I
leave my computer idle for a few minutes, I want the screen to go into
screen saver mode. However, if VO is reading, the flow is interrupted to
announce that the screen saver is active, which is a minor irritant at best.

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Go to System Preferences > desktop and screen saver > screen saver tab.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu

On 08/06/2014 06:42, Tristan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there an option that I'm not noticing, that will stop the screen 
> from going off in the middle of reading something? I'll be reading a 
> long article with vo+A, and the screen will go dim and Voice Over will 
> spout off the contents of the authorization dialogue. I prefer to keep 
> the screen saver/auth dialogue, but if I have to get rid of it 
> entirely to do so I can live with it. It just seems sort of off that 
> say, watching a movie or something on Hulu in Safari doesn't go to the 
> screen saver, but reading a long document will leave you high and dry and
turn off the screen.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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