Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
I made sure cursor tracking is on and I routed the VO cursor to the keyboard, 
but I don't see a differene. Unless I missed a setting somwhere.

Jane




On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
> to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
> did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
> worth a try.
> 
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jane,
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
>> like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
>> 
>> This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route of 
>> a reinstall.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
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>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>> If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
>> think I have maybe one authorization left.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
>>> re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
>>> try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
>>> the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist.  
>>> A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
>>> less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
>>> to go this way.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
> just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
> 
> * Go to your Finder.
> * Open your Macintosh HD
> * Open the System folder.
> * Open the Library folder
> * Open the Core Services folder.
> * Open the Battery item.
> 
> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
> get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that doesn't 
> do it, let me know.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
>> permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
>> do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access the 
>> extra menus, though.
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary 
>>> task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To do so...
>>> 
>>> * Go to the Finder.
>>> * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder.
>>> * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it.
>>> * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD.
>>> * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab.
>>> * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with 
>>> VO-space.
>>> * Wait patiently as it does its task.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission 
>>> errors.  In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the Recovery 
>>> Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first.  By the 
>>> way, what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command?  Is there 
>>> an alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu Extras are 
>>> available.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
 Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have 
 to reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
>  Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus?  
> This is not typical 

Re: words still being corrected

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Head
Hi Alex, Thanks for letting me know about spell check, I had a look in the edit 
menu of pages and saw an option under spelling and grammar that said check 
spelling while typing, and another that said, correct spelling while typing. I 
unchecked both of those so will see what happens when I do more writing 
tonight. :) 
Thanks again for your much appreciated responses. :) 
Hope you have a great day, 
Andrew 
On 18 Apr 2014, at 8:21 am, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Some apps have auto-correct settings in their own preferences, independent of 
> the system-wide setting. Check for that in the apps you find this happens. 
> Also remember that spellcheck and auto-correct are two different items in 
> most cases.
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I turned off auto correct ages ago, but at times, when I type in pages or 
>> the messages apps, I find my words are still being corrected or suggestions 
>> being offered. If someone can help me out that would be great, I don't want 
>> any automatic corrections as I spell check my documents myself and writing a 
>> novel that has strange place and character names and I dislike it when the 
>> computer tries to correct things. this doesn't happen all the time, but for 
>> some reason it's still happening even though auto correct is turned off.
>> kind regards
>> andrew 
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in background. 
i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. the, then today 
my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put it on my logging 
items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think so, or maybe just a 
script, thanks in advance 
On 17 Apr 2014, at 09:22 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
> Background" checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
> believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
> Other than that, you could turn on "Do Not Disturb" in the Notification 
> Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
> maybe is what you are hoping for.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
>> actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear it 
>> everytime i open my mac
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Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this frame, 
I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I have to play 
around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a new comment under 
share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I cannot get it to work. 
I've tried linking to the Comments from email, clicking on reply, clicking 
where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, as well as VO space. Can 
anyone help with this?
Christine

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Re: Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread isaac
I can't get it to work either.
On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this 
> frame, I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I have 
> to play around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a new 
> comment under share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I cannot 
> get it to work. I've tried linking to the Comments from email, clicking on 
> reply, clicking where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, as well as 
> VO space. Can anyone help with this?
> Christine
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Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, I 
have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an "unusual 
activity" message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some time 
exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was asked 
for my password, but then, asked to type the "text in the image". I tried 
closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. I 
cannot locate any log in or account link.
Christine

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Re: Renaming and some other questions

2014-04-18 Thread Jessica
I cannot make the voiceover "move" command work. Can somebody please remind me 
what it is. How do I use it and when?
Jessica
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On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

> don't know sir Alex how can I thank you.
> your explanation is excellent. thanks so much.
> is  there a way to know the time while working in pro tools?
> 
> On 4/17/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> It depends on the view you are using. I recommend you read my Finder guide,
>> which explains all about selecting multiple items:
>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-finder
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> sir Alex:
>>> thanks for your response.
>>> concerning windows, I was using 2 windows in finder, I didn't try to
>>> use command n, I will try that.
>>> concerning the escape key, in all menus, even the vo+m to go to the
>>> apple menu, escape can not close the window.
>>> 
>>> what do you mean by interacting with my list of files? I hit cmd}\}2
>>> and after I go to any folder, I find the table, I interact with it, is
>>> it what you mean?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/16/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In addition to Alex's responses:
 
 3.  If these windows are in different applications, then cmd-` will not
 work.  The cmd-` only works within windows of the same application.  You
 can
 use cmd-tab to cycle between applications.
 
 4.  I've never seen this either.  What kind of menu were you in?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> To rename, press enter. To select, interact with your list of files and
> press vo-cmd-enter on each one to select it (note that you must press
> this
> twice on the first item you select). If you are not using Mavericks or
> above, use vo-cmd-space instead of vo-cmd-enter.
> 
> Escape closes menus, and I've never heard of it not doing so. Are you
> possibly not focused where you think you are?
> As to windows, are you sure you opened multiple windows? you may have
> Finder set to not open folders in new windows, or you did not use cmd-n
> when you opened your second folder.
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:26 PM, ramy moustafa 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> With more and more using of my mac, I can discover somethings very
>> interesting for me.
>> But I got some questions if I can ask:
>> 1-I need to rename a folder, I hit the vo+shift +m but can not find
>> the
>> rename.
>> 2-If I have a folder with many songs, I need to select only some
>> songs,
>> how can I select some? I tried shift space, ctrl shift space, but no
>> luck.
>> 3-I know that command accent can cycle between open Windows, I have 2
>> open windows that I need to copy and past files from and to. Using
>> command accent do nothing. Why?
>> 4-When I'm in a menu, using the scape key didn't close this menu. I
>> must
>> hit option scape, and I discovered this by chance. So what is the
>> right
>> issue.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for your help
>> 
>> 
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>> faculty of musical education
>> music arranger and sound engineer
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

No, I don't believe that you have a virus.  If you accidentally left iTunes 
open when you shutdown your computer, it will likely come back on when you 
start it up.  Remember that, on a Mac, closing the window does not quit the 
application.  You must use Quit from the app menu or cmd-q to actually totally 
quit and remove the app from memory.

Later...

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
wrote:

> good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in 
> background. i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. 
> the, then today my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put it 
> on my logging items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think so, or 
> maybe just a script, thanks in advance 
> On 17 Apr 2014, at 09:22 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
>> Background" checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
>> believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
>> Other than that, you could turn on "Do Not Disturb" in the Notification 
>> Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
>> maybe is what you are hoping for.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
>>> actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear 
>>> it everytime i open my mac
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Re: Hotspots and Web Spots in Safari

2014-04-18 Thread Alex Hall
I guess that makes sense, but as you said, it is a really odd approach to take 
for a visually impaired audience. Do Web Spots work the same way? I set one on 
a forum, and when a new post came in, the spot stayed put, meaning that, as the 
page was now longer, the spot had moved up the page. The next update caused the 
spot to vanish entirely. This is rather disappointing, as I, and probably most 
people, expect a bookmark-like feature to stick to the bit of the page we put 
it on and not the visual location.
On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> I believe you may be seeing an issue where the heading you marked is no 
> longer visible.
> 
> When a hotspot moves out of the visible screen area or somehow becomes 
> invisible, VoiceOver can no longer move to it.
> 
> So no, hotspots are not broken. One just needs to understand that these are 
> based on visual screen layout. Arguably this may not be the best or easiest 
> approach for the average blind / visually impaired user, but this is what we 
> have for the moment.
> 
> Perhaps a spoken message letting the user know that the particular hotspot 
> has moved out of visual range may be in order.
> 
> Hope this helps and have a great night!
> 
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> 
> Hi all,
> I am working on a Safari article for new Mac users, and I thought I'd cover 
> hotspots and web spots. Now, though, I don't know if I should. Here's what i 
> did to try out hotspots:
> 
> 1. I went to an open page in Safari, navigated to a heading partway down it, 
> and pressed vo-shift-1.
> 2. I hit vo-left a few times, then vo-1, and was taken to my spot. Great.
> 3. I moved to the top of the page, tabbed a couple times, and hit vo-1. 
> Nothing at all happened.
> 4. I pressed vo-1 again, chose my spot from the Hotspots menu, and nothing 
> happened.
> 5. I hit vo-cmd-1, and was told the hotspot no longer exists.
> 
> Did I do it wrong? I try hotspots every so often, and each time I remember 
> why I never use them... I'd love to know I'm wrong and that they work great, 
> but they seem like a broken and neglected feature to me. Thanks for any input.
> 
> I did try Web Spots, and they didn't break immediately. However, I really 
> like that hotspots are associated with numbers; web spots require you to move 
> through a list sequentially, right? Are there major problems with web spots 
> as well, or do they work reliably?
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what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Jean Parker
Hello All and happy Friday:
I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
voiceover?
Jean

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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In brief, Growel is an app that verblley notifies you when things happen in 
certain apps.  Before the notification center, it was the best way to get 
information in real time when apps did certain things.  Truth to tell, I never 
saw much benefit in it myself.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

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> Hello All and happy Friday:
> I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
> what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
> voiceover?
> Jean
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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Chris Apple boy
Growl is a notifications system that most of us used before Os X 10.8 
Mountain Lion introduced the notification centre. It provides 
notifications for supported apps in the form of audio/visual 
notifications, the audio portion using the system voice to speak the 
notification.


Regards Chris

Happy Easter!

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Hello All and happy Friday:
I have read references to growl on this list before but have never understood 
what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its relation to 
voiceover?
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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  I 
would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while navigating LCD 
section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd love to be able 
to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.

Thanks again,
Traci
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> When you assign your command, choose "move to linked item" from the 
> navigation menu.
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
>> Is there, or is there a way to create a trackpad gesture for VO-J?
>> 
>> A little side note, I wish VO-shift-J would jump VoiceOver backwards.
>> 
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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I haven't been following this thread very close, but what about shift+VO+j
it does what you would like I supose.

Best regards Annie.Den 18/04/2014 kl. 18.12 skrev Traci Duncan 
:

> Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  
> I would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while navigating 
> LCD section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd love to be 
> able to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Traci
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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>> When you assign your command, choose "move to linked item" from the 
>> navigation menu.
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there, or is there a way to create a trackpad gesture for VO-J?
>>> 
>>> A little side note, I wish VO-shift-J would jump VoiceOver backwards.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Pamela Francis
Hi Christine,
I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a human 
who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired and 
cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.

Pam Francis

On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, I 
have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an "unusual 
activity" message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some time 
exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was asked 
for my password, but then, asked to type the "text in the image". I tried 
closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. I 
cannot locate any log in or account link.
Christine

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Re: VO-J

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
VO-shift-J moves me to the pop up item that popped up from the current item.

Maybe that is for when pop-overs occur?

Traci

On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I haven't been following this thread very close, but what about shift+VO+j
> it does what you would like I supose.
> 
> Best regards Annie.Den 18/04/2014 kl. 18.12 skrev Traci Duncan 
> :
> 
>> Excellent!  Thank you!  Now if we could move to the previously linked item.  
>> I would find this so handy in iTunes.  I constantly use VO-J while 
>> navigating LCD section, sources table, music brouser, then music table.  I'd 
>> love to be able to jump back/forth.  Tab doesn't always work for this.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Traci
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> When you assign your command, choose "move to linked item" from the 
>>> navigation menu.
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>>> 
 Is there, or is there a way to create a trackpad gesture for VO-J?
 
 A little side note, I wish VO-shift-J would jump VoiceOver backwards.
 
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video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey
hello group; is there a site where i can upload my videos and have them shared 
on iTunes. i found blip and was going to try it but they are updating their 
system and aren't accepting new members right now. like most of you i need 
something cheap and easy to use. thanks for your help, max 

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Re: Keyboard Focus / Voice Over Cursor / Mouse Pointer

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C

Anne,
   I dont use Skype but imagine this works in any instant messaging as 
well.


   What I hear while typing is controlled by the verbosity settings? 
Here is what I would like to know. What are the steps to follow when I 
want to start a chat? Not how to initiate one but how to deal with the 
keyboard and VP focus. Once I have done this a time or two I should be 
ok. Until now, I have only disabled tracking when installing some apps. 
Thanks.


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On 4/17/2014 10:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Robert,

What you hear when typing depends on how you have your keyboard echo set. What 
your correspondent has written can be read automatically in Skype if you have 
Growl installed, otherwise you need to navigate to it.

Cheers,

Anne


On 17 Apr 2014, at 20:23, Robert C  wrote:


Anne,
   This is an old message but of interest. Specifically, the cursor tracking 
when in a chat environment.

   If tracking is off, keyboard fozus is on the edit field, and VO is on the 
text the other person types, do you hear both spoken  or do you need to use 
commands? This is new to me and I wish to try a chat soon with a friend.

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On 1/24/2014 11:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

Hello Lee,

The keyboard focus is the position of the insertion point, which is shown on 
the screen as a tiny line between two characters. This is where your text will 
start if you begin typing.
The VoiceOver cursor is shown as a box around an area on the screen and you can 
change its size in the VoiceOver utility.
Normally the keyboard focus and the VoiceOver cursor are tied together so that 
VoiceOver tells you where you can enter information, but in a chat, you want to 
be able to read what the other person has written without moving the insertion 
point from the field where you type your reply, so you turn cursor tracking off.

In general, we don't need to worry about the mouse cursor, but some operations 
require the mouse to be on a specific element, in which case, you can bring the 
mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO-Cmd-F5 if you don't have the mouse cursor 
tied to the other cursors already.
I prefer not to have my mouse cursor tied to the other cursors as I find it can 
cause some irritating jumping around.

Mouse keys allows you to pilot the mouse using either the numpad or the letter 
keys on the righthand side of the keyboard.

In VoiceOver utility, you can tell VO to speak the text under the mouse with no 
delay so that you can hear where your mouse pointer is. Moving the mouse 
pointer in this way can make some elements accessible which the VoiceOver 
cursor can't reach.

Cheers,

Anne


On 25 Jan 2014, at 02:40, Lee Jones  wrote:


Dear List I don't understand the difference between keyboard focus and voice 
over cursor. What can you do with one that you can't do withthe the other? Do 
people find mouse keys useful? There are shortcuts for mouse up mouse down, 
double click etc but I am not sure what they would be used for. In setttings is 
it best to have keyboard focus vo cursor and mouse pointer following each other 
or moving separately? I am running mavericks.

Many Thanks, Lee

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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a *looong* 
time.

Jane




On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
> to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
> did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
> worth a try.
> 
> Later...
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jane,
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
>> like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
>> 
>> This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route of 
>> a reinstall.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
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>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>> If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
>> think I have maybe one authorization left.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
>>> re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
>>> try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
>>> the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist.  
>>> A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
>>> less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
>>> 
>>> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
>>> to go this way.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
 Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
 me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
> just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
> 
> * Go to your Finder.
> * Open your Macintosh HD
> * Open the System folder.
> * Open the Library folder
> * Open the Core Services folder.
> * Open the Battery item.
> 
> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
> get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that doesn't 
> do it, let me know.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
>> permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
>> do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access the 
>> extra menus, though.
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary 
>>> task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To do so...
>>> 
>>> * Go to the Finder.
>>> * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder.
>>> * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it.
>>> * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD.
>>> * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab.
>>> * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with 
>>> VO-space.
>>> * Wait patiently as it does its task.
>>> 
>>> Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission 
>>> errors.  In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the Recovery 
>>> Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first.  By the 
>>> way, what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command?  Is there 
>>> an alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu Extras are 
>>> available.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
 Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have 
 to reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
 
>  Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus?  
> This is not typical behavior.
> 
> 
> Take Care
>>

Re: Topic: Topic: reading brf files on the mac

2014-04-18 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Well, I wouldn't know about their IOS app since I use voice dream reader.
and, to each his own, I suppose.  It makes the world go round
Cheers!
Cait

On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Yes, but Bookshare's iOS sucks compared to the BARD app. And who wants to add 
> BRF files from email or dropbox to bard all the time? I'd rather have more 
> NLS books. 
> 
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> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 17:52, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Better to help bookshare out, I think.  Their library is already much bigger 
>> then the nLS one.
>> 
>> I also belive that NLS has it's own way of increasing it's library, and 
>> volunteers submitting material isn't included in it.  I could be badly 
>> mistaken, though!
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> perhaps its time that those of us with braille note taker devices start 
>>> volunteering some time to getting new braille books submitted to the NLS. 
>>> the only really bad hitch I see with this is the copyright laws here in the 
>>> US. If that doesn't turn out to be an issue, then we can all participate in 
>>> expanding the current library of braille materials from its very low 
>>> percentage to something far better. My one reason for us doing this is: we 
>>> need braille literacy and there just isn't enough available materials to go 
>>> around. The last braille loaner I tried to get from the local talking book 
>>> library was on backorder for several months. This, among other reasons, is 
>>> why we need to expand the electronic library versions. Having those files 
>>> available will mean that one can simply get them printed through a local 
>>> branch.
>>> 
>>> anyway, it would be nice to be able to read braille from any document 
>>> around.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 2 of 5 --
>>> From: Teresa Cochran 
>>> Date: Apr 17 06:12AM -0700
>>> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/1ce6a32a759c493b
>>> 
>>> If you convert a file to html, louis will convert it to brf. That makes 
>>> sense, since the markup is text as well. Going the other way is a little 
>>> more problematic. Half the time Louis interprets braille italics as dots 
>>> 4-6 in computer braille, putting a period before each word instead.
>>> 
>>> Personally, even with programs such as Kurzweil, I always found back 
>>> translation to be less than desirable. There are too many variables, and 
>>> sometimes there are strange results with it. Saying this as primarily a 
>>> braille reader, there are very many more books available in audio and other 
>>> formats than in Braille. In my personal experience, I've started keeping 
>>> brf files in their format and using a Braille display to type in them, 
>>> rather than back-translating. Of course, I have the luxury of having a 
>>> braille display.
>>> 
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Re: video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Sean Paul
You can use blubrry which you can find at blubrry.com or you can also use 
libsyn which can be found at libsyn.com. Both of these sites are for media 
hosting & do produce an RSS feed which you than submit to iTunes. &, both 
allow the uploading of video content as well as audio content. One of the 
real draw backs to video blogging, video podcasting, etc. As aposed to just 
audio blogging, podcasting, etc. Is that it takes a great deal of space to 
upload those videos verses an audio file. Both media hosting companies 
listed above have monthly plans. But, you're probably going to need the 
higher plans verses the cheapper plans which they do offer. I'd say that 
you'd probably get much better results just by using Youtube for your 
videos. No, they do not produce an RSS feed which you can submit to iTunes. 
However, this hosting is cheap, infact, it's free. Also, a great number of 
people search youtube for video content since it's a video content site. 
Also, it's the number 2 most used search engine in the world. Just one man's 
opinion, &, yes, sometimes I do get paid for it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Maxwell Ivey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 14:20
Subject: video blogging


hello group; is there a site where i can upload my videos and have them 
shared on iTunes. i found blip and was going to try it but they are updating 
their system and aren't accepting new members right now. like most of you i 
need something cheap and easy to use. thanks for your help, max


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Re: video blogging

2014-04-18 Thread Maxwell Ivey
> thanks for your help. i will probably end up just continuing to use youtube. 
> take care, max 
> 
> hello group; is there a site where i can upload my videos and have them 
> shared on iTunes. i found blip and was going to try it but they are updating 
> their system and aren't accepting new members right now. like most of you i 
> need something cheap and easy to use. thanks for your help, max
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
to me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
> You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
> human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
> and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
> I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
> "unusual activity" message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
> time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was 
> asked for my password, but then, asked to type the "text in the image". I 
> tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
> I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
> subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
> where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
> I cannot locate any log in or account link.
> Christine
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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

OK, here you go...

1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
2.  Up to the Apple menu.
3.  Down to Restart.

As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the "r" key 
simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going through 
the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the startup 
chime sounds.

4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime ends 
then release.
5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
turning VO on again.
6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
language or change as needed.

On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if that's 
the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.

7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
press it with VO-space.
9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.

It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, giving 
up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the installer 
from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It should 
restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you can 
determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be back to 
normal.

Good luck.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane  wrote:

> Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
> *looong* time.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've forgot 
>> to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing whatever.  It 
>> did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem logical.  Certainly 
>> worth a try.
>> 
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jane,
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds 
>>> like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
>>> 
>>> This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
>>> of a reinstall.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> ---
>>> iOS design and development - LookTel.com
>>> ---
>>> View my Online Portfolio at:
>>> 
>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>>> 
>>> Follow me on Twitter!
>>> 
>>> https://twitter.com/ModelCara
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
>>> think I have maybe one authorization left.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
 re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
 try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would install 
 the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist. 
  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and 
 less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth a try for you.
 
 Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose 
 to go this way.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
 
> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
> me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder?
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
>> just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
>> 
>> * Go to your Finder.
>> * Open your Macintosh HD
>> * Open the System folder.
>> * Open the Library folder
>> * Open the Core Services folder.
>> * Open the Battery item.
>> 
>> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
>> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process to 
>> get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
>> doesn't do it, let me know.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
>>> permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to 
>>> do with Status menus. It has to do with 

Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jessica
Do you loose any information? Is it necessary to backup tule data before hand? 
I am just curious.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> OK, here you go…
> 
> 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
> 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
> 3.  Down to Restart.
> 
> As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the “r” key 
> simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
> through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
> startup chime sounds.
> 
> 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
> ends then release.
> 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
> start.  If it doesn’t start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
> turning VO on again.
> 6.  Once it’s on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
> language or change as needed.
> 
> On occasion, I’ve seen it where the Language Chooser doesn’t appear, if 
> that’s the case, then you’ll be at the Recovery dialog.
> 
> 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
> 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
> press it with VO-space.
> 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
> 
> It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
> this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
> giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
> installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
> should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
> can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
> back to normal.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
>> *looong* time.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That’s a good idea Cara.  I’ve seen that happen in the past when I’ve 
>>> forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
>>> whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn’t seem 
>>> logical.  Certainly worth a try.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
 sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cara :)
 ---
 iOS design and development - LookTel.com
 ---
 View my Online Portfolio at:
 
 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
 
 Follow me on Twitter!
 
 https://twitter.com/ModelCara
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> That should be the one.  It’s starting to look like you may need to do a 
> re-install.  I wouldn’t go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
> try the “Re-install” option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
> install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
> that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
> is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it’s worth 
> a try for you.
> 
> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
> choose to go this way.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
>> me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
>> folder?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmmm.  I wouldn’t bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
>>> just don’t seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
>>> 
>>> • Go to your Finder.
>>> • Open your Macintosh HD
>>> • Open the System folder.
>>> • Open the Library folder
>>> • Open the Core Services folder.
>>> • Open the Battery item.
>>> 
>>> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
>>> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
>>> to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
>>

Re: Renaming and some other questions

2014-04-18 Thread Rich Ring
You probably have figured this out by now, but the move command works like 
this. Highlight the file or folder you need to move, then go to the place you 
want to move it to and press command option v.

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
richr...@gmail.com

On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> I cannot make the voiceover "move" command work. Can somebody please remind 
> me what it is. How do I use it and when?
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:18 PM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
>> don't know sir Alex how can I thank you.
>> your explanation is excellent. thanks so much.
>> is  there a way to know the time while working in pro tools?
>> 
>> On 4/17/14, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> It depends on the view you are using. I recommend you read my Finder guide,
>>> which explains all about selecting multiple items:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/getting-started-os-x-finder
>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Ramy Moustafa 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 sir Alex:
 thanks for your response.
 concerning windows, I was using 2 windows in finder, I didn't try to
 use command n, I will try that.
 concerning the escape key, in all menus, even the vo+m to go to the
 apple menu, escape can not close the window.
 
 what do you mean by interacting with my list of files? I hit cmd}\}2
 and after I go to any folder, I find the table, I interact with it, is
 it what you mean?
 
 
 On 4/16/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In addition to Alex's responses:
> 
> 3.  If these windows are in different applications, then cmd-` will not
> work.  The cmd-` only works within windows of the same application.  You
> can
> use cmd-tab to cycle between applications.
> 
> 4.  I've never seen this either.  What kind of menu were you in?
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> To rename, press enter. To select, interact with your list of files and
>> press vo-cmd-enter on each one to select it (note that you must press
>> this
>> twice on the first item you select). If you are not using Mavericks or
>> above, use vo-cmd-space instead of vo-cmd-enter.
>> 
>> Escape closes menus, and I've never heard of it not doing so. Are you
>> possibly not focused where you think you are?
>> As to windows, are you sure you opened multiple windows? you may have
>> Finder set to not open folders in new windows, or you did not use cmd-n
>> when you opened your second folder.
>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 1:26 PM, ramy moustafa 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> With more and more using of my mac, I can discover somethings very
>>> interesting for me.
>>> But I got some questions if I can ask:
>>> 1-I need to rename a folder, I hit the vo+shift +m but can not find
>>> the
>>> rename.
>>> 2-If I have a folder with many songs, I need to select only some
>>> songs,
>>> how can I select some? I tried shift space, ctrl shift space, but no
>>> luck.
>>> 3-I know that command accent can cycle between open Windows, I have 2
>>> open windows that I need to copy and past files from and to. Using
>>> command accent do nothing. Why?
>>> 4-When I'm in a menu, using the scape key didn't close this menu. I
>>> must
>>> hit option scape, and I discovered this by chance. So what is the
>>> right
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your help
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ramy moustafa saber
>>> Musicc instructor at:
>>> faculty of musical education
>>> music arranger and sound engineer
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Removing drm protection from Adobe Digital Edition pdf files purchased legally

2014-04-18 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Dear Annie,

Thank you very much. I shall look to see what I can find.

Best wishes

Andrew
On 17 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

> Hi Andrew.
> 
> As I remember you are a macuser.
> 
> There are some good tools for things like that on this site:
> www.epubsoft.com
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 17/04/2014 kl. 22.12 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
> 
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> I need to remove drm protection from an adobe digital pdf book which I have 
>> purchased. This is obviously for my own use. Is there a Voiceover friendly 
>> program that would do it?
>> 
>> Thanks for any tips.
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

It's always recommended to backup your data before doing this but, to be 
honest, I've done it many, many times without backing up and have never had any 
problems.  Now that I've said that, I'll probably have an issue next time.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> Do you loose any information? Is it necessary to backup tule data before 
> hand? I am just curious.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> OK, here you go...
>> 
>> 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
>> 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
>> 3.  Down to Restart.
>> 
>> As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the "r" key 
>> simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
>> through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
>> startup chime sounds.
>> 
>> 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
>> ends then release.
>> 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
>> start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
>> turning VO on again.
>> 6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
>> language or change as needed.
>> 
>> On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if 
>> that's the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.
>> 
>> 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
>> 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
>> press it with VO-space.
>> 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
>> 
>> It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
>> this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
>> giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
>> installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
>> should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
>> can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
>> back to normal.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
>>> *looong* time.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've 
 forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
 whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem 
 logical.  Certainly worth a try.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
 
> Hi Jane,
> 
> Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
> sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
> 
> This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
> of a reinstall.
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
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> On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
> If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
> think I have maybe one authorization left.
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
>> re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
>> try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
>> install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
>> that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
>> is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's 
>> worth a try for you.
>> 
>> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
>> choose to go this way.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
>> 
>>> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't 
>>> let me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
>>> folder?
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some 
 items just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you tr

Re: Removing drm protection from Adobe Digital Edition pdf files purchased legally

2014-04-18 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi Andrew.

I forgot to mention that some of the buttons are unlabled, but you can press 
vo+shift+h
and you will get the description.

I have the toolbox from their site, and it helps me a lot.

Best regards Annie.Den 18/04/2014 kl. 21.56 skrev Andrew Lamanche 
:

> Dear Annie,
> 
> Thank you very much. I shall look to see what I can find.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Andrew
> On 17 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andrew.
>> 
>> As I remember you are a macuser.
>> 
>> There are some good tools for things like that on this site:
>> www.epubsoft.com
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 17/04/2014 kl. 22.12 skrev Andrew Lamanche :
>> 
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> 
>>> I need to remove drm protection from an adobe digital pdf book which I have 
>>> purchased. This is obviously for my own use. Is there a Voiceover friendly 
>>> program that would do it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any tips.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: Status Menus Are Gone

2014-04-18 Thread Jane
How much space do I need to have free on here? I have43.66GB free.

Jane

 


On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> OK, here you go...
> 
> 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
> 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
> 3.  Down to Restart.
> 
> As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the "r" key 
> simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
> through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
> startup chime sounds.
> 
> 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
> ends then release.
> 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
> start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
> turning VO on again.
> 6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
> language or change as needed.
> 
> On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if 
> that's the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.
> 
> 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
> 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
> press it with VO-space.
> 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
> 
> It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
> this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
> giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
> installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
> should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
> can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
> back to normal.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
>> *looong* time.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've 
>>> forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
>>> whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem 
>>> logical.  Certainly worth a try.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
 sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
 
 This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
 of a reinstall.
 
 HTH
 
 
 Cara :)
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 On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane  wrote:
 
 If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
 think I have maybe one authorization left.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
> re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
> try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
> install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
> that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
> is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's worth 
> a try for you.
> 
> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
> choose to go this way.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
>> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let 
>> me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
>> folder?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items 
>>> just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the following:
>>> 
>>> * Go to your Finder.
>>> * Open your Macintosh HD
>>> * Open the System folder.
>>> * Open the Library folder
>>> * Open the Core Services folder.
>>> * Open the Battery item.
>>> 
>>> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
>>> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
>>> to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
>>> doesn't do it, let me know.
>>> 
>>> 

Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Pamela Francis
Hopefully, they will get back to you. I do have a question however, are you 
having issues accessing the direct link on your page to your account 
specifically? Maybe I can search the site and find the direct link and send it 
to you off list.

Pam Francis

On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
to me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Christine,
> I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 858-943-5000
> You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
> human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
> and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
> I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
> "unusual activity" message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
> time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I was 
> asked for my password, but then, asked to type the "text in the image". I 
> tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still stuck. 
> I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
> subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
> where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
> I cannot locate any log in or account link.
> Christine
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Re: Oh, Dear, Slacker Problem Again . . .

2014-04-18 Thread Christine Grassman
Whether I try to log into my account on my iPhone or my MacBook, it is giving 
me an image capture, with no audio alternative. I cannot access my account at 
all with sighted assistance.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 18, 2014, at 16:48, Pamela Francis  wrote:
> 
> Hopefully, they will get back to you. I do have a question however, are you 
> having issues accessing the direct link on your page to your account 
> specifically? Maybe I can search the site and find the direct link and send 
> it to you off list.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Pam. I could only get voicemail, but hopefully, someone will get back 
> to me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 13:19, Pamela Francis  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Christine,
>> I too am a slacker radio subscriber. Their direct phone number is 
>> 858-943-5000
>> You may get a recording, yet if you play with the menus, you will find a 
>> human who will talk to you. If you explain to them you are visually impaired 
>> and cannot reliably access their site, they will talk  you through the issue.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Despite Slacker's fantastic job making its iPhone app accessible once again, 
>> I have run into a snag they clearly did not anticipate.  I received an 
>> "unusual activity" message while listening; I had the audacity to spend some 
>> time exploring a bunch of different stations in a short period of time. I 
>> was asked for my password, but then, asked to type the "text in the image". 
>> I tried closing and reopening the app; tried rebooting my phone. Still 
>> stuck. 
>> I wrote to them, and Tweeted as well; no response so far.  Meanwhile, a 
>> subscription for which I paid is unusable, and I cannot seem to figure out 
>> where on the web site I can go to attempt a workaround to access my account. 
>> I cannot locate any log in or account link.
>> Christine
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Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C
   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe 
momenbt so let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window 
and I have to move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are 
at the moment) before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was 
clear, then I want to know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land 
directly on that sign in. Thanks.


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resemble a nail."

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Combining 2 tracks

2014-04-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Hello all,

I open to using either audacity or garage band.  The problem is, I can't figure 
out this task with either one.

Let's say you have song A and song B.  You have edited both of these songs to 
just how you want them, but now you want them to play back to back, as if they 
have become song C.  I don't want them to play over each other, rather right 
after another, as one track.

In both programs, the songs play atop each other.

Suggestions?  Assistance please.  :)

Thanks,
Traci

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Re: Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi!
Ok open users and groups in system pref's and in the table of choices pick log 
in items!
One of the options is to use name and password as log in screen!
HTH Colin

On 18 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Robert C  wrote:

>   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe momenbt so 
> let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window and I have to 
> move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are at the moment) 
> before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was clear, then I want 
> to know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land directly on that sign 
> in. Thanks.
> 
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Re: Shortcut to Login?

2014-04-18 Thread Robert C
   Hmmm. I tried that option before and it requires typing in two 
things not just my password so I went back to the other option. I am the 
only user on this Mac.


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On 4/18/2014 3:31 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

Hi!
Ok open users and groups in system pref's and in the table of choices pick log 
in items!
One of the options is to use name and password as log in screen!
HTH Colin

On 18 Apr 2014, at 23:14, Robert C  wrote:


   Is there a shortcut to login on the Mac?Its not runnuign at tyhe momenbt so 
let me explain. When I first turn the Mac on, its in a window and I have to 
move past 3 or 4 items (I dont recall what those items are at the moment) 
before I get to my login account and sign in. If that was clear, then I want to 
know if I can change a setting somewhere so I land directly on that sign in. 
Thanks.

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Re: what is growl?

2014-04-18 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
I still use Growl even though I'm using Mavericks because I turn off Voiceover 
in apps where I don't need it such as VMWare Fusion and the RSGames client. If 
notification center itself had an option to use the system voice to speak 
notifications, I would get rid of Growl.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> Growl is a notifications system that most of us used before Os X 10.8 
> Mountain Lion introduced the notification centre. It provides notifications 
> for supported apps in the form of audio/visual notifications, the audio 
> portion using the system voice to speak the notification.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> Happy Easter!
> 
> On 18/04/2014 16:25, Jean Parker wrote:
>> Hello All and happy Friday:
>> I have read references to growl on this list before but have never 
>> understood what it is.  Could someone give an explanation especially its 
>> relation to voiceover?
>> Jean
>> 
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chromevox on the mac

2014-04-18 Thread Chris Moore
Hello,
I'm looking for feedback on chromevox.  Are there advantages over safari?

TIA
Chris

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Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
enter.
In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with or 
 without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no row 
selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks for 
any help.
Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
with or without vo keys?
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread alia robinson
do v/o and command and enter. that will work.
On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi,
> Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
> enter.
> In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
> vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with 
> or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no row 
> selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
> I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
> for any help.
> Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
> with or without vo keys?
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Kevin Shaw
Hi Lisette,

Do the following:

*   Navigate to the desired table or lsit view.
*   Interact
*   Down arrow to the first item you want. 
*   VO down to the next item. While holding down VO keys, press command 
spacebar. YOu'll hear VO report you have 2 items selected.
*   Repeat until you have all items you want.
*   ¬Copy with command C when finished.

To speed up the process, I lock VO keys on once I have the first item and use 
command-space to mark the items I want.

Hope this helps.

Kevin

On 2014-04-18, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling  wrote:

> Hi,
> Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
> enter.
> In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
> vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with 
> or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no row 
> selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
> I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
> for any help.
> Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
> with or without vo keys?
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Many thanks. I didn't realise you needed to add the command key to the enter 
and lift it when arrowing down.Oh Kevin, in Mavericks it's command enter, not 
command space I believe. But it works now. Thanks to this awesome list.

Lisette

On 19/04/2014, at 12:12 pm, alia robinson  wrote:

> do v/o and command and enter. that will work.
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
>> enter.
>> In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I 
>> press vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one 
>> (with or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear "no 
>> row selected". Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
>> I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
>> for any help.
>> Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
>> with or without vo keys?
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iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Kerri
Hello, all. 

I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, one 
of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and have 
a great day.

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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread David Chittenden
>From what I understand, iTunes is designed to continue playback until stopped. 
>I have not found any button for playing only the current selection then 
>stopping playback.

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> Hello, all. 
> 
> I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
> song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, one 
> of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and 
> have a great day.
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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Gary
When you're on the list of songs, press enter to start playing the song you're 
currently on. Press spacebar to stop playing a song.  That's how I do it, but I 
also have my songs as a list.
Gary
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> 
> I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus a 
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> of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks and 
> have a great day.
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Re: iTunes inquiry

2014-04-18 Thread Kerri
thanks but these things start playing as soon as any song quits.

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On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Gary  wrote:

> When you're on the list of songs, press enter to start playing the song 
> you're currently on. Press spacebar to stop playing a song.  That's how I do 
> it, but I also have my songs as a list.
> Gary
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 10:09 PM, Kerri  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, all. 
>> 
>> I have never been very adept at iTunes, sad to cofess. I have an album plus 
>> a song that I purchased on the aforemented store. Whenever a song finishes, 
>> one of these songs immediately begins to play. How do I cease this? Thanks 
>> and have a great day.
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Totally Off-Topic Quesiton

2014-04-18 Thread Helena Fehr
Hi, all!
I know this has nothing to do with the Mac at all, but I'm kind of desperate 
because I've got a problem with my PacMate Omni (I think it's a 6 or 6.1). When 
my braille display is connected to the PacMate, it just says pm display 40 but 
does not allow me to read in braille what's supposed to be on my screens, and 
eventually, it just falls asleep. (speaking of falling asleep, I'm wondering if 
anyone knows if there's a way to make the braille display not fall asleep.) It 
worked just fine until the day before yesterday when I disconnected the braille 
display while the PacMate was still on. Other than that  the PacMate itself 
works fine, and I know the braille display works because for one thing when I 
turn the PacMate off, the dots all disappear as usual, and then when I turn it 
on the pm display 40 message comes back on, and for another, if I hook the 
braille display to my Mac, it works fine; anyhow, I actually have two braille 
displays, and they both do the same thing on the PacMate but both work on the 
Mac.
I've tried a warm reset and a hard-reset, but it doesn't change. Oh, forgot to 
say it's one of the PacMates with a computer keyboard.
Anyhow, I know this is totally off-topic, but Ive already asked a bunch of 
people and nobody can suggest anything helpful. I've read all the help 
information I can find, but can't find anything helpful there either. I'm going 
to Ontario on tour with my choir group the week after next, and I just put a 
downloadable Bible on my PacMate so I could take it along to read my Bible in 
braille rather than having to bring the braille books, but now the braille 
display doesn't work, and I'd like to get it fixed before we leave so I can 
still use it instead of having to bring a braille Bible along.
Anyhow, if someone knows what to suggest or to do about this, I'd really 
appreciate it. You can email me off-topic if you want, or just send a reply to 
my message.
My email is helena.torch.li...@gmail.com.
Thanks a lot!



God Bless!!!
Helena

May the Lord bless you and protect you; may the Lord's face radiate with joy 
because of you; may He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you 
His peace (Numbers 6:24-26).
In Jesus' Name. Amen.

Helena Fehr
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Re: Commenting and replying to comments on YouTube

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i figure it out, hehehehe turn quick nav off the just like the shortcut command 
for twitter, j for next post, k for the succeeding post, the l to like the 
status, then c for comment but after you comment you have to turn on your quick 
nav to push the comment botton, cheeers
On 18 Apr 2014, at 03:29 pm, isaac  wrote:

> I can't get it to work either.
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> Folks, this is driving me batty. If I interact with the comment on this 
>> frame, I get a bunch of stuff, like numbers, the word stream, and then I 
>> have to play around reading the comments. I can usually manage to enter a 
>> new comment under share your thoughts. However, in an attempt to reply, I 
>> cannot get it to work. I've tried linking to the Comments from email, 
>> clicking on reply, clicking where it says button; I've tried hitting Return, 
>> as well as VO space. Can anyone help with this?
>> Christine
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Re: two applications upgraded

2014-04-18 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
sorry for the itune, i left my ipod attach on my mac, :)
On 18 Apr 2014, at 05:09 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, I don't believe that you have a virus.  If you accidentally left iTunes 
> open when you shutdown your computer, it will likely come back on when you 
> start it up.  Remember that, on a Mac, closing the window does not quit the 
> application.  You must use Quit from the app menu or cmd-q to actually 
> totally quit and remove the app from memory.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> good morning tim, ok i laready check the download newly upgrades in 
>> background. i dont want to turn off my notification because i use it a lot. 
>> the, then today my itunes is opening on the background even if i don't put 
>> it on my logging items. do you thing my computer was vireus? i dont think 
>> so, or maybe just a script, thanks in advance 
>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 09:22 pm, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It appears to be an automatic thing when you have the Download in the 
>>> Background" checkbox checked in the AppStore pane of System Preferences.  I 
>>> believe that if you uncheck this box, those messages won't always come up.  
>>> Other than that, you could turn on "Do Not Disturb" in the Notification 
>>> Centre and those alerts wouldn't happen.  Then again, no alerts would which 
>>> maybe is what you are hoping for.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:52 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 why does eveytime i open up my computer i hear this voice.
 actualy i do have imovie update and xcode update, but i dont want to hear 
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Re: Keyboard Focus / Voice Over Cursor / Mouse Pointer

2014-04-18 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Robert,

The only app I ever use for chatting, and that isn't very often, is Skype, so I 
don't know how the others work.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Apr 2014, at 20:21, Robert C  wrote:

> Anne,
>   I dont use Skype but imagine this works in any instant messaging as well.
> 
>   What I hear while typing is controlled by the verbosity settings? Here is 
> what I would like to know. What are the steps to follow when I want to start 
> a chat? Not how to initiate one but how to deal with the keyboard and VP 
> focus. Once I have done this a time or two I should be ok. Until now, I have 
> only disabled tracking when installing some apps. Thanks.
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
> "Laws change more slowly than custom, and though dangerous when they fall 
> behind the times are more dangerous still when they presume to anticipate 
> custom."
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> On 4/17/2014 10:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> Hello Robert,
>> 
>> What you hear when typing depends on how you have your keyboard echo set. 
>> What your correspondent has written can be read automatically in Skype if 
>> you have Growl installed, otherwise you need to navigate to it.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 17 Apr 2014, at 20:23, Robert C  wrote:
>> 
>>> Anne,
>>>   This is an old message but of interest. Specifically, the cursor tracking 
>>> when in a chat environment.
>>> 
>>>   If tracking is off, keyboard fozus is on the edit field, and VO is on the 
>>> text the other person types, do you hear both spoken  or do you need to use 
>>> commands? This is new to me and I wish to try a chat soon with a friend.
>>> 
>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>> Politicians and diapers have one thing in common.
>>> They should both be changed regularly and for the same reason.
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>>> On 1/24/2014 11:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 Hello Lee,
 
 The keyboard focus is the position of the insertion point, which is shown 
 on the screen as a tiny line between two characters. This is where your 
 text will start if you begin typing.
 The VoiceOver cursor is shown as a box around an area on the screen and 
 you can change its size in the VoiceOver utility.
 Normally the keyboard focus and the VoiceOver cursor are tied together so 
 that VoiceOver tells you where you can enter information, but in a chat, 
 you want to be able to read what the other person has written without 
 moving the insertion point from the field where you type your reply, so 
 you turn cursor tracking off.
 
 In general, we don't need to worry about the mouse cursor, but some 
 operations require the mouse to be on a specific element, in which case, 
 you can bring the mouse cursor to the VO cursor with VO-Cmd-F5 if you 
 don't have the mouse cursor tied to the other cursors already.
 I prefer not to have my mouse cursor tied to the other cursors as I find 
 it can cause some irritating jumping around.
 
 Mouse keys allows you to pilot the mouse using either the numpad or the 
 letter keys on the righthand side of the keyboard.
 
 In VoiceOver utility, you can tell VO to speak the text under the mouse 
 with no delay so that you can hear where your mouse pointer is. Moving the 
 mouse pointer in this way can make some elements accessible which the 
 VoiceOver cursor can't reach.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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> Dear List I don't understand the difference between keyboard focus and 
> voice over cursor. What can you do with one that you can't do withthe the 
> other? Do people find mouse keys useful? There are shortcuts for mouse up 
> mouse down, double click etc but I am not sure what they would be used 
> for. In setttings is it best to have keyboard focus vo cursor and mouse 
> pointer following each other or moving separately? I am running mavericks.
> 
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