another pages question

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
Another pages question.  When I have written some text and check the position 
it always says I am "one inches right and 0.2 inches down from top..."  Is this 
normal or should it be giving me the accurate line position?
Thanks,
Jim
 

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Re: Printer showing off-line

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

How is your printer connected network, USB or wireless? It would help to know 
what kind of printer and how you got the driver. Also, a line showing up 
especially in the direction ofprinting is propabley you with the printer.e

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> my printer has started printing only part of the text we wish to print. I 
> deleted the printer driver and re-installed it. I ran a repair disk etc. I 
> now get a message saying the printer is offline. My sited wife tells me that 
> the printer is not flashing offline as it would normally do. How can I 
> determine if the problem is software or hardware? 
> Thanks as always for any help.
> Max
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Re: another pages question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Jim,

VO-F4-F4 misreports the insertion point. Please report this to Apple as several 
of us have done already. The more of us who make a fuss, the more likely it is 
that the problem will be rectified.

As you progress down the page, reporting of the position of the insertion point 
is underestimated to an ever greater degree.

Cheers,

Anne


On 11 Apr 2014, at 11:33, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> Hi all!
> Another pages question.  When I have written some text and check the position 
> it always says I am "one inches right and 0.2 inches down from top..."  Is 
> this normal or should it be giving me the accurate line position?
> Thanks,
> Jim
> 
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Re: pages questions

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Have you tried navigating into the text you wish to know attributes about, then 
pressing VO-t.  The VO-t command usually gives a set of relevant attributes 
including text size, colour, style and alignment.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:

> Ok I may have gotten it to work.  Just wasn't going down fare enough but now 
> I have no way of telling that the text is right aligned from what I can tell.
> Jim
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jim,
>> 
>> This was a hard nut to crack but here's how to sort out the alignment.
>> 
>> * Type the text you want to have at the left then jump to the Formatter.
>> * Select layout and interact with the scroll area.
>> * Go down to Tab stops and expand it with VO-Space.
>> * Click the Add tab stop button and interact with the table.
>> * Bring the mouse to the field showing the position of the tab stop and 
>> Double-click using VO-Shift-Space.
>> * Type in either 16 for centimeters or 4.5 for inches.
>> * Interact with the field that says Alignment Left and bring the mouse.
>> * Turn on Mouse keys.
>> * Move the mouse right by pressing the letter o on a laptop or the 6 key on 
>> an extended keyboard 52 times then click with the letter i or the 5.
>> * Move the mouse down the way with either k or 2 until you hear Right then 
>> click with i or 5.
>> * You should now turn Mouse keys off again.
>> Back in your document, navigate to the end of your line and press the Tab 
>> key.
>> * You can now enter the second part of your line and the new text will be 
>> right aligned.
>> 
>> It took my husband and me over an hour to figure this one out and I need to 
>> report it to Apple.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 18:19, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> Just wondered if anybody had looked at my earlier post about changing the 
>>> alignment of tabs in pages.  Its a combo box but when I up or down arrow it 
>>> just blinks at me.
>>> Any ideas would be helpful.
>>> 
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Daniel Hawkins]

Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup for 
a update, that was not accessable.

Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a site, 
there you pick what operating system and then click download.

Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let the 
install complete.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I find 
> the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks for any 
> detailed help with this.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
> disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have someone 
>> to do it for me.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based 
>>> and much easier to use.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>>> 
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Jessica]

flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don't think beta releases 
should be downloaded by the public.
Jessica
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On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup 
> for a update, that was not accessible.
> 
> Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a 
> site, there you pick what operating system and then click download.
> 
> Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
> open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let the 
> install complete.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
>> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I find 
>> the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks for 
>> any detailed help with this.
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
>> disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Visualize whirled peas.
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have 
>>> someone to do it for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based 
 and much easier to use.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 
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Re: pages questions

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Tim,

The VO-t command doesn't help in identifying the position along the line. 
VO-F4-F4, although giving wrong information, is nonetheless useful as you can 
tell whether one part of the line is further away from another part than just 
the width of one character. So, with Jim's problem, pressing VO-F4-F4 just to 
the right of the last character of the lefthand part of the line, then doing it 
again just after the tab, will show whether the righthand part of the line is 
much further across the page than the lefthand part.

I wish more people would report the VO-F4-F4 problem to Apple as we've had 
several updates to Pages since I reported it a few months ago.

Cheers,

Anne


On 11 Apr 2014, at 15:40, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried navigating into the text you wish to know attributes about, 
> then pressing VO-t.  The VO-t command usually gives a set of relevant 
> attributes including text size, colour, style and alignment.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
>> Ok I may have gotten it to work.  Just wasn't going down fare enough but now 
>> I have no way of telling that the text is right aligned from what I can tell.
>> Jim
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Jim,
>>> 
>>> This was a hard nut to crack but here's how to sort out the alignment.
>>> 
>>> * Type the text you want to have at the left then jump to the Formatter.
>>> * Select layout and interact with the scroll area.
>>> * Go down to Tab stops and expand it with VO-Space.
>>> * Click the Add tab stop button and interact with the table.
>>> * Bring the mouse to the field showing the position of the tab stop and 
>>> Double-click using VO-Shift-Space.
>>> * Type in either 16 for centimeters or 4.5 for inches.
>>> * Interact with the field that says Alignment Left and bring the mouse.
>>> * Turn on Mouse keys.
>>> * Move the mouse right by pressing the letter o on a laptop or the 6 key on 
>>> an extended keyboard 52 times then click with the letter i or the 5.
>>> * Move the mouse down the way with either k or 2 until you hear Right then 
>>> click with i or 5.
>>> * You should now turn Mouse keys off again.
>>> Back in your document, navigate to the end of your line and press the Tab 
>>> key.
>>> * You can now enter the second part of your line and the new text will be 
>>> right aligned.
>>> 
>>> It took my husband and me over an hour to figure this one out and I need to 
>>> report it to Apple.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10 Apr 2014, at 18:19, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 Just wondered if anybody had looked at my earlier post about changing the 
 alignment of tabs in pages.  Its a combo box but when I up or down arrow 
 it just blinks at me.
 Any ideas would be helpful.
 
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Re: pages questions

[Jessica]

I just reported this along with some other issues to apple in an email.
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Tim,
> 
> The VO-t command doesn't help in identifying the position along the line. 
> VO-F4-F4, although giving wrong information, is nonetheless useful as you can 
> tell whether one part of the line is further away from another part than just 
> the width of one character. So, with Jim's problem, pressing VO-F4-F4 just to 
> the right of the last character of the lefthand part of the line, then doing 
> it again just after the tab, will show whether the righthand part of the line 
> is much further across the page than the lefthand part.
> 
> I wish more people would report the VO-F4-F4 problem to Apple as we've had 
> several updates to Pages since I reported it a few months ago.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 15:40, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Have you tried navigating into the text you wish to know attributes about, 
>> then pressing VO-t.  The VO-t command usually gives a set of relevant 
>> attributes including text size, color, style and alignment.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok I may have gotten it to work.  Just wasn't going down fare enough but 
>>> now I have no way of telling that the text is right aligned from what I can 
>>> tell.
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Jim,
 
 This was a hard nut to crack but here's how to sort out the alignment.
 
 * Type the text you want to have at the left then jump to the Formatter.
 * Select layout and interact with the scroll area.
 * Go down to Tab stops and expand it with VO-Space.
 * Click the Add tab stop button and interact with the table.
 * Bring the mouse to the field showing the position of the tab stop and 
 Double-click using VO-Shift-Space.
 * Type in either 16 for centimeters or 4.5 for inches.
 * Interact with the field that says Alignment Left and bring the mouse.
 * Turn on Mouse keys.
 * Move the mouse right by pressing the letter o on a laptop or the 6 key 
 on an extended keyboard 52 times then click with the letter i or the 5.
 * Move the mouse down the way with either k or 2 until you hear Right then 
 click with i or 5.
 * You should now turn Mouse keys off again.
 Back in your document, navigate to the end of your line and press the Tab 
 key.
 * You can now enter the second part of your line and the new text will be 
 right aligned.
 
 It took my husband and me over an hour to figure this one out and I need 
 to report it to Apple.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 10 Apr 2014, at 18:19, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
 
> Hi!
> Just wondered if anybody had looked at my earlier post about changing the 
> alignment of tabs in pages.  Its a combo box but when I up or down arrow 
> it just blinks at me.
> Any ideas would be helpful.
> 
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Re: another pages question

[Jim Gatteys]

Anne!
I'll definitely do that.
Thanks for the response.
Jim

On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Jim,
> 
> VO-F4-F4 misreports the insertion point. Please report this to Apple as 
> several of us have done already. The more of us who make a fuss, the more 
> likely it is that the problem will be rectified.
> 
> As you progress down the page, reporting of the position of the insertion 
> point is underestimated to an ever greater degree.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 11 Apr 2014, at 11:33, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all!
>> Another pages question.  When I have written some text and check the 
>> position it always says I am "one inches right and 0.2 inches down from 
>> top..."  Is this normal or should it be giving me the accurate line position?
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>> 
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Re: Family Trees

[Gary]

Family Tree Maker for Mac 3
Gary

On Apr 10, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone researched their family tree and used any Mac apps to build your 
> tree?
> 
> I'm doing a lot of googling, ancestry .com, & family search org.  I'd like an 
> easy to use program to actually type in the information and build my family 
> tree.  I have it going on ancestry right now, but I don't find it easy to 
> read & follow.
> 
> Thanks so much,
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other word processing options

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only have 
an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to Nisus 
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feedback would be appreciated.
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Cannot find "options" button in Automator

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I'm following the instructions on this website:
http://www.macworld.com/article/2139101/create-a-reminder-on-your-mac-in-an-instant.html

The idea is to have a box pop up that accepts your reminder's details, then 
closes. Assign that to a keystroke and you have a super-fast way to add 
reminders. The only problem is that I need to tell the "new reminder" action to 
show when my workflow runs, and the site says to do that in the options. 
However, there is no options button I can find. I've been through the entire 
window, and even the menus, but there's nothing. I found the places to adjust 
input and which applications this uses, but nothing at all about options for 
the action itself. What am I missing? Thanks.

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Re: other word processing options

[Jessica]

How about text edit? I he's pages & text edit.

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> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only have 
> an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to Nisus 
> Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible with 
> voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than msWord.  Any 
> feedback would be appreciated.
> Jim
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Disregard my Automator question

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Hi again,
Never mind, I found it. I had to interact with the action in the workflow - I 
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Re: other word processing options

[Jim Gatteys]

it doesn't do everything I need it to do.

On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> How about text edit? I he's pages & text edit.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all!
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
>> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only 
>> have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to 
>> Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible 
>> with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than 
>> msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated.
>> Jim
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Re: other word processing options

[April]

I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
though much easier to find what you need.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>
> Hi all! 
> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
> the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
> only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
> reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it 
> is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
> intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
> Jim 
>
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Ray Foret Jr]

Gee, I don't know bout that.  I went in to my system prefs and opened the 
update window and the version 13 came up:   therefore, with respect, I think 
you are mistaken about 13 being a beta.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don't think beta releases 
> should be downloaded by the public.
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup 
>> for a update, that was not accessible.
>> 
>> Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a 
>> site, there you pick what operating system and then click download.
>> 
>> Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
>> open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let the 
>> install complete.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I 
>>> find the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks 
>>> for any detailed help with this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
>>> disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Visualize whirled peas.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have 
 someone to do it for me.
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
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> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based 
> and much easier to use.
> 
> HtH,
> teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Robert C]

   Incorrect, Flash Player 13 is not beta.

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On 4/11/2014 7:06 AM, Jessica wrote:

flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don't think beta releases 
should be downloaded by the public.
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup for 
a update, that was not accessible.

Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a site, 
there you pick what operating system and then click download.

Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let the 
install complete.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I find 
the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks for any 
detailed help with this.


reggie and Allegra

On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the disc 
image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML window.

HtH,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have someone to 
do it for me.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:


I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based and 
much easier to use.

HtH,
teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.


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Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question

[Chris Apple boy]

This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact 
and look around.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi again,
Never mind, I found it. I had to interact with the action in the workflow - I 
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bard mobile question

[Jean Parker]

Hello:
Ok, I understand putting the file in my dropbox then opening it on my i phone.  
But wen I see the file in dropbox how to I get to a context menu from which I 
can choose "open in?"
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Jessica]

How did you get to this window?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Gee, I don't know bout that.  I went in to my system prefs and opened the 
> update window and the version 13 came up:   therefore, with respect, I think 
> you are mistaken about 13 being a beta.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>> flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don’t think beta releases 
>> should be downloaded by the public.
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a popup 
>>> for a update, that was not accessible.
>>> 
>>> Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a 
>>> site, there you pick what operating system and then click download.
>>> 
>>> Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash there. 
>>> open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari to let 
>>> the install complete.
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
 On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
 wrote:
 
 Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I 
 find the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. Thanks 
 for any detailed help with this.
 
 
 reggie and Allegra
 
 On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
 disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML 
 window.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 Visualize whirled peas.
 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have 
> someone to do it for me.
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML based 
>> and much easier to use.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> teresa
>> 
>> Slow down; you’ll get there faster.
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Re: other word processing options

[Daniel Hawkins]

I agree with Libre Office. I don't know much about office suite, but Libre 
office is pretty good. And the latest update it is now accessable with 
Voiceover. You don't need to install a bridge like in windows.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17 AM, April  wrote:

> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
> 
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
> Hi all! 
> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only have 
> an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to Nisus 
> Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible with 
> voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than msWord.  Any 
> feedback would be appreciated. 
> Jim 
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Teresa Cochran]

Go to System Preferences in the Apple Menu. When that dialog opens, choose 
"flash player". You can choose your update options at this point. I had mine 
set to install automatically. This isn't actually what happens. when it's set 
to install automatically, there's an update dialog, and this is how I came up 
with Flash 13. Anyhow, in the flashplayer preferences, there's also a "check 
now" button. You'll get a message with the update status.

HtH,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jessica  wrote:

> How did you get to this window?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Gee, I don't know bout that.  I went in to my system prefs and opened the 
>> update window and the version 13 came up:   therefore, with respect, I think 
>> you are mistaken about 13 being a beta.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don't think beta releases 
>>> should be downloaded by the public.
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a 
 popup for a update, that was not accessible.
 
 Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a 
 site, there you pick what operating system and then click download.
 
 Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash 
 there. open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari 
 to let the install complete.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
 wrote:
 
> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I 
> find the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. 
> Thanks for any detailed help with this.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open the 
> disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML 
> window.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have 
>> someone to do it for me.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML 
>>> based and much easier to use.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> teresa
>>> 
>>> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
>>> 
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Re: Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer

[Jessica]

I now have the latest version of adobe flash player.

Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com

On Apr 11, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Go to System Preferences in the Apple Menu. When that dialog opens, choose 
> "flash player". You can choose your update options at this point. I had mine 
> set to install automatically. This isn't actually what happens. when it's set 
> to install automatically, there's an update dialog, and this is how I came up 
> with Flash 13. Anyhow, in the flash player preferences, there's also a "check 
> now" button. You'll get a message with the update status.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Visualize whirled peas.
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jessica  wrote:
> 
>> How did you get to this window?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Gee, I don't know bout that.  I went in to my system prefs and opened the 
>>> update window and the version 13 came up:   therefore, with respect, I 
>>> think you are mistaken about 13 being a beta.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Jessica  wrote:
>>> 
 flash player 13 is only in beta at this point. I don't think beta releases 
 should be downloaded by the public.
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 On Apr 11, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
> Successfully installed mine! I was a bit confused a bit since I had a 
> popup for a update, that was not accessible.
> 
> Just do a google search for Adobe Flash 13 and you will be directed to a 
> site, there you pick what operating system and then click download.
> 
> Then you go to Finder and go to downloads, you will find Adobe Flash 
> there. open that and follow the directions. You will need to quit Safari 
> to let the install complete.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> On Apr 10, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
>> Is the Adobe 13 new? Where do I go to download if it is, and where do I 
>> find the disk image? Had a difficult time with this a few days ago. 
>> Thanks for any detailed help with this.
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> It downloads an installer that is contained in a disc image. You open 
>> the disc image, find the install app, and open that. It opens in an HtML 
>> window.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Visualize whirled peas.
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Really? How did you install it? I am still stuck, I am about to have 
>>> someone to do it for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm pleased to note that the new installer for Adobe Flash is HTML 
 based and much easier to use.
 
 HtH,
 teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 
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Re: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automaton question

[Kerri]

and trust me, I'm *always forgetting to interact grin.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Apple boy

Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question

This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact
and look around.

Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi again,
Never mind, I found it. I had to interact with the action in the 
workflow - I didn't realize it was a container, I thought it was just 
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Re: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automaton question

[Alex Hall]

I interact as well. The thing is, there was no indication that the action could 
be interacted with. Normally, something is a group, or scroll area, or some 
other UI element. Still, at least now I know for future Automator use.
On Apr 11, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> and trust me, I'm *always forgetting to interact grin.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Chris Apple boy
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:34 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question
> 
> This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact
> and look around.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
> 
> On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Hi again,
>> Never mind, I found it. I had to interact with the action in the workflow - 
>> I didn't realize it was a container, I thought it was just text.
>> 
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Re: other word processing options

[Devin Prater]

I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.

Sent from my iPod

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April  wrote:
> 
> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
> 
>> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all! 
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
>> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only 
>> have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to 
>> Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible 
>> with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than 
>> msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>> Jim 
>> 
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Re: other word processing options

[Jessica]

Is it free & safe to download?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April  wrote:
>> 
>> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
>> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
>> though much easier to find what you need.
>> 
>>> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>>> Hi all! 
>>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
>>> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only 
>>> have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference 
>>> to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is 
>>> accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive 
>>> than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>>> Jim
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Re: other word processing options

[April]

LibreOffice is free and safe to download.  They have both a Mac and  
Microsoft version.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:14:34 PM UTC-4, Jessica wrote:
>
> Is it free & safe to download?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater > 
> wrote:
>
> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April > 
> wrote:
>
> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
>
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>>
>> Hi all! 
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
>> the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
>> only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
>> reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it 
>> is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
>> intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>> Jim 
>>
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Re: other word processing options

[Devin Prater]

Yeah, it's free, open-source, and safe.

Sent from my iPod

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:14, Jessica  wrote:
> 
> Is it free & safe to download?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
>>> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
>>> though much easier to find what you need.
>>> 
 On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
 Hi all! 
 has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
 the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
 only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
 reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if 
 it is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
 intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
 Jim
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Re: other word processing options

[Jessica]

is it just a word processor or is it a suite of applications; like iWork?
Jessica
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On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Yeah, it's free, open-source, and safe.
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:14, Jessica  wrote:
> 
>> Is it free & safe to download?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April  wrote:
>>> 
 I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
 LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
 though much easier to find what you need.
 
 On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
 Hi all! 
 has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
 the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
 only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
 reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if 
 it is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
 intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
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Re: other word processing options

[April]

It is a full set of applications.  They a spreadsheet and drawing program 
too, and a couple of more I haven't used.  Compatible with Word and the 
whole Office group of programs.

On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:19:09 PM UTC-4, Jessica wrote:
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> is it just a word processor or is it a suite of applications; like iWork?
> Jessica
> jlda...@gmail.com 
>  
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Devin Prater > 
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's free, open-source, and safe.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:14, Jessica > 
> wrote:
>
> Is it free & safe to download?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater > 
> wrote:
>
> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April > 
> wrote:
>
> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
>
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>>
>> Hi all! 
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
>> the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
>> only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
>> reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it 
>> is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
>> intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>> Jim 
>>
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Re: other word processing options

[Devin Prater]

It's like Iwork

Sent from my iPod

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:19, Jessica  wrote:
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> is it just a word processor or is it a suite of applications; like iWork?
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
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>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, it's free, open-source, and safe.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:14, Jessica  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is it free & safe to download?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 11, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
 I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17, April  wrote:
> 
> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
> 
>> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all! 
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
>> the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
>> only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
>> reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if 
>> it is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
>> intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>> Jim
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Re: other word processing options

[Krister Ekstrom]

I wouldn't call Libre office accessible or rather usable. Yes you can get at 
all controls, but the same old showstopper that has been around for as long as 
i have had the Mac and that's from about 2007 is still there, and that is: 
Every new paragraph is treated as a separate edit box, making it impossible to 
read long texts fluidly and selecting text across paragraphs is impossible 
using VO commands as they are limited to the text box you are in.
/Krister

11 apr 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Daniel Hawkins :

> I agree with Libre Office. I don't know much about office suite, but Libre 
> office is pretty good. And the latest update it is now accessable with 
> Voiceover. You don't need to install a bridge like in windows.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17 AM, April  wrote:
> 
>> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
>> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
>> though much easier to find what you need.
>> 
>> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>> Hi all! 
>> has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for the 
>> mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now only 
>> have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen reference to 
>> Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if it is accessible 
>> with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more intuitive than 
>> msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
>> Jim 
>> 
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Re: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automaton question

[Chris Apple boy]

True. But even if it's not obvious to me I just interact anyway. Mostly 
it's nothing but the text just read out but you never know.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 11/04/2014 17:52, Alex Hall wrote:

I interact as well. The thing is, there was no indication that the
action could be interacted with. Normally, something is a group, or
scroll area, or some other UI element. Still, at least now I know for
future Automator use.
On Apr 11, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Kerri mailto:shalo...@shaw.ca>> wrote:


and trust me, I'm *always forgetting to interact grin.

-Original Message- From: Chris Apple boy
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Subject: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question

This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact
and look around.

Regards Chris

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On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi again,
Never mind, I found it. I had to interact with the action in the
workflow - I didn't realize it was a container, I thought it was just
text.

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1password accessibility with voiceover

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

Could you share your experiences with 1password using voiceover?  Is it fully 
accessible?  Also, one thing that worries me is what happens if 1password 
should misfunction or one would have a computer crash? I am anxious that I 
would feel out of control using 1password.  I'd appreciate your experiences.

Please write off-line if you wish not to clutter the list.

Thank you

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Re: 1password accessibility with voiceover

[Keith Watson]

Andrew,

I have 1Password on both my Macs and my iPhone and iPad. I have used it for 
years and have had no issues. I sync with both Dropbox and iCloud. I also keep 
my backup on a thumb drive. No worries. Works great.

Keith

On Apr 11, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> Could you share your experiences with 1password using voiceover?  Is it fully 
> accessible?  Also, one thing that worries me is what happens if 1password 
> should misfunction or one would have a computer crash? I am anxious that I 
> would feel out of control using 1password.  I'd appreciate your experiences.
> 
> Please write off-line if you wish not to clutter the list.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Andrew
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iTunes for Mac or Windows

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> 
>   * 1password accessibility with voiceover [2 Updates]
>   * Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question [4 
> Updates]
>   * other word processing options [10 Updates]
>   * Improvement with Adobe Flash 13 installer [5 Updates]
>   * pages questions [1 Update]
>   * bard mobile question [1 Update]
>   * Styles context menu in pages - assigning shortcuts [1 Update]
>  1password accessibility with voiceover
> Andrew Lamanche  Apr 11 09:28PM +0100  
> 
> Listers,
>  
> Could you share your experiences with 1password using voiceover? Is it fully 
> accessible? Also, one thing that worries me is what happens if 1password 
> should misfunction or one would have a computer crash? I am anxious that I 
> would feel out of control using 1password. I'd appreciate your experiences.
>  
> Please write off-line if you wish not to clutter the list.
>  
> Thank you
>  
> Andrew
>  
> Keith Watson  Apr 11 05:06PM -0400  
> 
> Andrew,
>  
> I have 1Password on both my Macs and my iPhone and iPad. I have used it for 
> years and have had no issues. I sync with both Dropbox and iCloud. I also 
> keep my backup on a thumb drive. No worries. Works great.
>  
> Keith
>  
>  
>  Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question
> Chris Apple boy  Apr 11 04:34PM +0100  
> 
> This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact 
> and look around.
>  
> Regards Chris
>  
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>  
> On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:
>  
> "Kerri"  Apr 11 09:48AM -0700  
> 
> and trust me, I'm *always forgetting to interact grin.
>  
> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Apple boy
> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 8:34 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Finding stuff in Mac Os X was Re: Disregard my Automator question
>  
> This is it if I can't find what I expect to find in Mac Os X I interact
> and look around.
>  
> Regards Chris
>  
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>  
> On 11/04/2014 16:11, Alex Hall wrote:
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> Alex Hall  Apr 11 12:52PM -0400  
> 
> I interact as well. The thing is, there was no indication that the action 
> could be interacted with. Normally, something is a group, or scroll area, or 
> some other UI element. Still, at least now I know for future Automator use.
>  
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> mehg...@icloud.com
>  
> Chris Apple boy  Apr 11 08:36PM +0100  
> 
> True. But even if it's not obvious to me I just interact anyway. Mostly 
> it's nothing but the text just read out but you never know.
>  
> Regards Chris
>  
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>  
> On 11/04/2014 17:52, Alex Hall wrote:
>  
>  other word processing options
> April  Apr 11 08:17AM -0700  
> 
> I use Pages for part of the writing process. Then switch documents to 
> LibreOffice to complete them. LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
> though much easier to find what you need.
>  
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>  
> Daniel Hawkins  Apr 11 11:12AM -0500  
> 
> I agree with Libre Office. I don't know much about office suite, but Libre 
> office is pretty good. And the latest update it is now accessable with 
> Voiceover. You don't need to install a bridge like in windows.
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>  
>  
> Devin Prater  Apr 11 12:58PM -0500  
> 
> I didn't think Libra office with voiceover was accessible.
>  
> Sent from my iPod
>  
>  
> Jessica  Apr 11 02:14PM -0400  
> 
> Is it free & safe to download?
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
>  
> April  Apr 11 11:16AM -0700  
> 
> LibreOffice is free and safe to download. They have both a Mac and 
> Microsoft version.
>  
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 2:14:34 PM UTC-4, Jessica wrote:
>  
> Devin Prater  Apr 11 01:17PM -0500  
> 
> Yeah, it's free, open-source, and safe.
>  
> Sent from my iPod
>  
>  
> Jessica  Apr 11 02:19P

Re: 1password accessibility with voiceover

[Emilio]

Andrew,

I will echo Keith's sentiments here.
OnePassword (OP) is a great program that I have used for a little over a 
year now.
I have the application installed on my iMac and iPhone.
The developers are invested in insuring this program work well with 
Voiceover. I have personally communicated with the development team 
concerning Voiceover questions I have had in the past, and their response 
and dedication are stellar.
A caveat From my experiences so far, is that passwords must be initially 
generated from the iPhone app because when trying to generate one from the 
app on the Mac, I am not able to interact with the password area and select 
the criteria and length of my password. (This could all be something I am 
not doing correctly, so anyone please feel free to correct me).
Generating passwords on the iPhone is great and when I am ever creating a 
new account, OnePassword is at the ready. Furthermore, when accessing a 
site's login area, I can just interact with the address bar and type "OP" 
before the URL and after confirming this change, OnePassword will launch 
and allow me to insert my unique password, which leads to another great 
feature of OP, which is the integrated browser.
This is where I have all my passwords and program licenses stored. I have 
the program synced in Dropbox, so there is always a copy available.
You mention your concern with problems. One thing i will say is that I have 
not had any serious computer issues so far that have jeopardized my OP 
repository. Just keep a backup elsewhere whether it be in another cloud 
service or flash drive alternative, and you should be fine.

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Re: Printer showing off-line

[Agent086b]

Hi,
the printer is connected by USB. It is a Canon iP5300. 
OSX had the driver.
Max

On 11 Apr 2014, at 9:13 pm, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> How is your printer connected network, USB or wireless? It would help to know 
> what kind of printer and how you got the driver. Also, a line showing up 
> especially in the direction ofprinting is propabley you with the printer.e
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> my printer has started printing only part of the text we wish to print. I 
>> deleted the printer driver and re-installed it. I ran a repair disk etc. I 
>> now get a message saying the printer is offline. My sited wife tells me that 
>> the printer is not flashing offline as it would normally do. How can I 
>> determine if the problem is software or hardware? 
>> Thanks as always for any help.
>> Max
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Re: other word processing options

[Devin Prater]

Lovely. I would love to make daisy books with the mac tts. 

Sent from my iPod

> On Apr 11, 2014, at 13:25, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t call Libre office accessible or rather usable. Yes you can get at 
> all controls, but the same old showstopper that has been around for as long 
> as i have had the Mac and that’s from about 2007 is still there, and that is: 
> Every new paragraph is treated as a separate edit box, making it impossible 
> to read long texts fluidly and selecting text across paragraphs is impossible 
> using VO commands as they are limited to the text box you are in.
> /Krister
> 
>> 11 apr 2014 kl. 18:12 skrev Daniel Hawkins :
>> 
>> I agree with Libre Office. I don’t know much about office suite, but Libre 
>> office is pretty good. And the latest update it is now accessable with 
>> Voiceover. You don’t need to install a bridge like in windows.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 10:17 AM, April  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Pages for part of the writing process.  Then switch documents to 
>>> LibreOffice to complete them.  LibreOffice has as much overkill as Word, 
>>> though much easier to find what you need.
>>> 
 On Friday, April 11, 2014 10:51:14 AM UTC-4, Jim Gatteys wrote:
 Hi all! 
 has anyone tried other word processing options such as Nisus Writer for 
 the mac?  I was so spoiled with my word processor for windows but I now 
 only have an old xp machine that I no longer want to use.  I've seen 
 reference to Nisus Writer and just wondered how easy it is to use and if 
 it is accessible with voiceover?  I think pages is ok but not much more 
 intuitive than msWord.  Any feedback would be appreciated. 
 Jim
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Re: 1password accessibility with voiceover

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Emilio and others,

Thank you for responding regarding 1password accessibility. It sounds very 
encouraging. I will just have to find a way of learning how to use it.  

Andrew
On 11 Apr 2014, at 22:32, Emilio  wrote:

> Andrew,
> 
> I will echo Keith's sentiments here.
> OnePassword (OP) is a great program that I have used for a little over a year 
> now.
> I have the application installed on my iMac and iPhone.
> The developers are invested in insuring this program work well with 
> Voiceover. I have personally communicated with the development team 
> concerning Voiceover questions I have had in the past, and their response and 
> dedication are stellar.
> A caveat From my experiences so far, is that passwords must be initially 
> generated from the iPhone app because when trying to generate one from the 
> app on the Mac, I am not able to interact with the password area and select 
> the criteria and length of my password. (This could all be something I am not 
> doing correctly, so anyone please feel free to correct me).
> Generating passwords on the iPhone is great and when I am ever creating a new 
> account, OnePassword is at the ready. Furthermore, when accessing a site's 
> login area, I can just interact with the address bar and type "OP" before the 
> URL and after confirming this change, OnePassword will launch and allow me to 
> insert my unique password, which leads to another great feature of OP, which 
> is the integrated browser.
> This is where I have all my passwords and program licenses stored. I have the 
> program synced in Dropbox, so there is always a copy available.
> You mention your concern with problems. One thing i will say is that I have 
> not had any serious computer issues so far that have jeopardized my OP 
> repository. Just keep a backup elsewhere whether it be in another cloud 
> service or flash drive alternative, and you should be fine.
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Re: pages questions

[Nicholas Parsons]

Would an alternative to the tab stop method be just to create a table and have 
one column left aligned and the other right aligned?

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Re: Styles context menu in pages - assigning shortcuts

[Nicholas Parsons]

Yes, the fact that they are called buttons was misleading, but the trick of 
interacting with them is great. I, however, am able to just VO-space on the 
menu buttons and they work fine--no need for routing mouse cursers or 
simulating mouse clicks.
Best,
Nic

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