Re: Accessible sound editing or sequencsing software on the Mac question

2014-02-23 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
What version of audacity is accessible now? Are we still on the special version 
of 1.X or have we moved forward?
/Krister

23 feb 2014 kl. 00:56 skrev Alex Hall :

> Don't forget about Audacity. It's free, cross-platform, accessible, and easy 
> to use once you get the hang of it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 18:38, "Christian"  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jamie,
>> Many thanks for that tip. Will check that out.
>> Haven't used OSX for a very long time and I noticed that htings have 
>> definitly changed since I tried it last time a few years ago.
>> VO is definitly great to me so far.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2014-02-22 at 14:45 Jamie Pauls wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, Christian:
>>> 
>>> There is currently a thread on this list discussing Amadeus Pro which is a
>>> very accessible audio editing tool. I am told that Sound Forge also works,
>>> although it is not inexpensive. There are other programs, but they don't
>>> come to my mind at present. As for sequencing software, I don't know the
>>> answer to that one.
 On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Christian  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Does anyone know of any accessible sound editor or MIDI/Audio sequencer
>>> for the Mac that works with VoiceOver?
 Many thanks,
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Re: Accessible sound editing or sequencsing software on the Mac question

2014-02-23 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, I have to be honest about Sound Forge.  While basic editing works, so I 
am informed, and while it is possible to manipulate the sliders for effects 
such as noise reduction and so forth, presets remain an issue:  and, it's 
impossible to split a file in to regions for burning to a CD.  Now, bear in 
mind that this is what I'm told and my source has not come out and mentioned 
any improvements to the accessibility.  Seems to me that, so far, Amadeus Pro, 
(now available directly from the app store and thus not needing a license) is 
the best audio for the Mac I have yet to hear of.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Feb 23, 2014, at 4:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Hi,
> What version of audacity is accessible now? Are we still on the special 
> version of 1.X or have we moved forward?
> /Krister
> 
> 23 feb 2014 kl. 00:56 skrev Alex Hall :
> 
>> Don't forget about Audacity. It's free, cross-platform, accessible, and easy 
>> to use once you get the hang of it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 18:38, "Christian"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jamie,
>>> Many thanks for that tip. Will check that out.
>>> Haven't used OSX for a very long time and I noticed that htings have 
>>> definitly changed since I tried it last time a few years ago.
>>> VO is definitly great to me so far.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2014-02-22 at 14:45 Jamie Pauls wrote:
 
 Hello, Christian:
 
 There is currently a thread on this list discussing Amadeus Pro which is a
 very accessible audio editing tool. I am told that Sound Forge also works,
 although it is not inexpensive. There are other programs, but they don't
 come to my mind at present. As for sequencing software, I don't know the
 answer to that one.
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Christian  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Does anyone know of any accessible sound editor or MIDI/Audio sequencer
 for the Mac that works with VoiceOver?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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Re: Accessible sound editing or sequencsing software on the Mac question

2014-02-23 Thread Ronald van Rhijn
Hi there,
You can try Reaper, last time I saw it it looked pretty accessible. 
Ronald

Op 21 feb. 2014, om 07:46 heeft Christian  het volgende 
geschreven:

> Hi all,
> Does anyone know of any accessible sound editor or MIDI/Audio sequencer for 
> the Mac that works with VoiceOver?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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Re: Blue tooth headset

2014-02-23 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi,

I can reccommend the Plantronics Voyager Legend or, and this is a really smal 
nice one, the Plantronics M155. Both support VoiceOver and music and they are 
single ear headsets.

All the best 
Jürgen
Am 21.02.2014 um 06:43 schrieb David Chittenden :

> Well, there are several factors to consider.
> 
> First, the headset must support the A2DP (AADP) profile. This profile is the 
> stereo music channel, so almost all stereo bluetooth headsets support it. If 
> the headset states it plays music, whether single ear or both ears, it most 
> probably supports A2DP. When shopping online, check the tech specs to be 
> certain. No brands support A2DP profile across their entire line. Usually, 
> the more expensive bluetooth earpieces and headsets support A2DP.
> 
> Are you looking for a single earpiece or a stereo headset. The single 
> earpiece is more likely to not support A2DP. If A2DP is supported, VO will 
> automatically work through the headset. If not supported, VO will only come 
> through the headset during a call. Otherwise, VO will speak through the 
> device speaker, just as it does currently.
> 
> If you want two-device simeltaneous support, the Motorola elite series, 
> Motorola H17TXT and H19TXT, and the PlanTronics Legend, all support this. 
> Also, all of these headsets are one ear, and have spoken prompts and 
> announcements.
> 
> Most modern headsets are able to auto-pair when selected in the phone so one 
> does not need to enter a four digit pin.
> 
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> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 21 Feb 2014, at 13:47, "Christina C."  wrote:
>> 
>> I hope I don't sound too incredibly stupid but I am shopping for a bluetooth 
>> headset and I am quite lost. 
>> 
>> Is there a list somewhere of blind friendly bluetooth headphones/headsets 
>> that are compatible with iOS devices and macs?
>> 
>> Also, If I happen to use a headset that does not work with VO on my iPhone 
>> will VO still have sound output from the speaker on my iPhone but just not 
>> on the headphones? Or will the voiceover be completely mute to me?  
>> 
>> I am on the hunt for a super easy to use headset that will pair very easily 
>> where maybe I don't have to type in a code to pair it  all the time because 
>> I would like a headset that I can use with several devices. Like my Mac, my 
>> iPhone and a bluetooth transmitter I am going to purchase that I can stick 
>> in the headphone jack for various audio devices in my home. It would be 
>> great if it could pair automatically, if that feature even exists. :)
>> 
>> Thanks for any help pointing me in the right direction.
>> 
>> Christina
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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor do I 
necessarily agree with all his sentiments.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> 
> 
> http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/
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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread John Panarese
   This is the opinion of one person who has his own reasons for doing so.  
Personally, I don't agree with his rationale as some of his points are 
completely flawed.  Also, going back to Windows?  Why?  If you need particular 
access, you can just use a virtual machine or boot camp.  I equate it to going 
back to using window air conditioner units throughout my house from the central 
air system we have had for the last 10 years.  However, to each his own, and as 
I said on the Triple Click Home podcast, have fun storming the castle 


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On Feb 23, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
> guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor do 
> I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/
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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Karen Lewellen

Tim,
I feel that is exactly the most important point.
Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
untrue.
The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality 
for everyone.   Respect 
that  the first question should  always be how will this work for my 
personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to express their 
individual choice without fear of condemnation by a collective and 
nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for 
others to respect your uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience 
anything, including sight loss the same.  Time to respect this persons 
choices, he said personal, owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as 
your 
seasoning applies only to you.
certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
individual 
human  artistry, because no one lives in your body but you.


Karen

On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote:


Hi,

Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor do I 
necessarily agree with all his sentiments.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/

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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Phil Halton
Man! you just knew this would get a thread going. Personally, I use both Mac 
and Windows in a VM, both have their attractions and strong points. I don't 
like the rather screwy accessibility breakage I'm seeing on the Mac, and I also 
don't like microsofts changing interfaces (e.g.. windows7 to window 8).
I have no loyalty to either brand, brand loyalty is just plain foolish  in my 
opinion. life is getting too short to look for and expect perfection anywhere.  
I'll use whatever works at the moment without worrying too much about what 
doesn't.

On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:

> Tim,
> I feel that is exactly the most important point.
> Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
> Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
> suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
> untrue.
> The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality for 
> everyone.   Respect that  the first question should  always be how will this 
> work for my personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to express their 
> individual choice without fear of condemnation by a collective and 
> nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for others to respect your 
> uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience anything, including sight 
> loss the same.  Time to respect this persons choices, he said personal, 
> owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as your seasoning applies only to 
> you.
> certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
> think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
> sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
> individual human  artistry, because no one lives in your body but you.
> 
> Karen
> 
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
>> guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor 
>> do I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
I was struck by the number of comments from people who said they based their 
decisions to stick with Windows solely on his article. It was a very fair 
article, although some of the points are just wrong, such as iBooks being as 
inaccessible as he thinks. Anyhow, I wouldn't base my decision to do anything 
on just one person's experience. 

It was interesting to read, but I'll stick with what I have. I like it well 
enough, and as long as Apple commits to accessibility, I'll vote with my 
wallet. Pure and simple for me.

Teresa

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On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> Man! you just knew this would get a thread going. Personally, I use both Mac 
> and Windows in a VM, both have their attractions and strong points. I don't 
> like the rather screwy accessibility breakage I'm seeing on the Mac, and I 
> also don't like microsofts changing interfaces (e.g.. windows7 to window 8).
> I have no loyalty to either brand, brand loyalty is just plain foolish  in my 
> opinion. life is getting too short to look for and expect perfection 
> anywhere.  I'll use whatever works at the moment without worrying too much 
> about what doesn't.
> 
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> 
>> Tim,
>> I feel that is exactly the most important point.
>> Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
>> Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
>> suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
>> untrue.
>> The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality 
>> for everyone.   Respect that  the first question should  always be how will 
>> this work for my personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to express 
>> their individual choice without fear of condemnation by a collective and 
>> nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for others to respect your 
>> uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience anything, including 
>> sight loss the same.  Time to respect this persons choices, he said 
>> personal, owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as your seasoning 
>> applies only to you.
>> certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
>> think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
>> sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
>> individual human  artistry, because no one lives in your body but you.
>> 
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
>>> guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor 
>>> do I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 
 http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/
 
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get it

2014-02-23 Thread wayne17a
Hello list I am using get it to download bbc programmes but now I am getting
failed to download proxy so I reset defaults but still the same so is
anybody else having the same trouble thanks in advance 

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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Chris H
I don't agree with the article either. However it's each to their own 
and I can't comment on using Braille on Os X compared to that on Windows 
or even iOS.


Regards Chris

On 23/02/2014 16:47, John Panarese wrote:

This is the opinion of one person who has his own reasons for doing so.  
Personally, I don't agree with his rationale as some of his points are 
completely flawed.  Also, going back to Windows?  Why?  If you need particular 
access, you can just use a virtual machine or boot camp.  I equate it to going 
back to using window air conditioner units throughout my house from the central 
air system we have had for the last 10 years.  However, to each his own, and as 
I said on the Triple Click Home podcast, have fun storming the castle 


Take Care

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Hi,

Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor do I 
necessarily agree with all his sentiments.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:





http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/

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Re: Mac Mail Syncing Issues With Accounts Other Than Gmail

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Hello,

COX iMAP? I tried to find a way to do that 3 years ago and gave up. The Techs 
had no idea what I was talking about and there were no references in the 
support pages that I could find.

I would use my COX account again if I could get IMAP to work and also get mail 
filtering on the server.

Please give me parameters and instructions!

Thanks,

Jonathan

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> Hi, all,
> 
> I'm noticing that Mail has syncing issues with my Cox IMAP accounts. It's not 
> a huge deal for me, because I don't receive many messages on those. Just 
> thought I'd point it out. Yahoo has always been a problem, as is, of course, 
> Gmail. iCloud keeps up pretty well. periodically, I just go to the Mailboxes 
> menu and choose "synchronize all accounts" and it seems to catch up.
> 
> Just FYI,
> Teresa
> 
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Re: Is there a way to spell check epub books.

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Well, any application that uses Macintoshes standard text editing suite has 
access to the standard spell checker routines. So unless a ePub editor goes out 
of its way to turn off this functionality it should be there. What might work 
is to use Pages and then export to ePUB. 

It would probably be a good idea to add some markup like section breaks and 
Headings and I believe that Apple has a free ePub creator that only works with 
iBooks.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> Hi all.
> 
> Is there a program, that can spell check and edit an epub book. The reason 
> why I am asking this question, is that finereader can make pritty good epub 
> files, and if I could correct them, and also correct if there would be any 
> mistakes in the table of content and in the splitting of the book, I could 
> easily make my books in epub, PDF or another format, that would work on the 
> IPhone.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
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Re: Mac Mail Syncing Issues With Accounts Other Than Gmail

2014-02-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Here you go:
http://tinyurl.com/CoxImapSettings

HtH,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Feb 23, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> COX iMAP? I tried to find a way to do that 3 years ago and gave up. The Techs 
> had no idea what I was talking about and there were no references in the 
> support pages that I could find.
> 
> I would use my COX account again if I could get IMAP to work and also get 
> mail filtering on the server.
> 
> Please give me parameters and instructions!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> I'm noticing that Mail has syncing issues with my Cox IMAP accounts. It's 
>> not a huge deal for me, because I don't receive many messages on those. Just 
>> thought I'd point it out. Yahoo has always been a problem, as is, of course, 
>> Gmail. iCloud keeps up pretty well. periodically, I just go to the Mailboxes 
>> menu and choose "synchronize all accounts" and it seems to catch up.
>> 
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>> Teresa
>> 
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TV Guide Website: How to See More detail about a Channel or Program?

2014-02-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

Does anyone use the tV Guide website:
http://www.tvguide.com/listings/
I'm wondering how to display just one channel for an extended time period, and 
how to get program descriptions.

thanks,
teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel McGee
The same here. Each to there own person what works for one may not work another 
and vice verser.
I can't remember all the details but there was one thing that certainly struck 
with me and that is the artical says that he has to use the VO keys and at 
times it can be cumberson and I agree in part. However, what he didn't mention 
is that it is possible to make the VO keys act as the caps-lock key through the 
use of a couple of downloaded utilities and an article that I followed from 
applevis to help me get this done.
Since doing this I haven't looked back I use both the VO keys and the caps-lock 
interchangeably and I must admit personally I prefer the caps lock method but 
there you go.
The point being that I don't think he knew of the knowledge which is fair 
enough. This is just one that struck a chord with me so to speak about the 
article that I wanted to point out to others here.
Finally, to end on a happy note, all who use different platforms whatever they 
may maybe, may they serve you well and accomplish whatever job or desire you 
seek to perform in this time of tablet/computing age!

Daniel 
On 23 Feb 2014, at 17:49, Chris H  wrote:

> I don't agree with the article either. However it's each to their own and I 
> can't comment on using Braille on Os X compared to that on Windows or even 
> iOS.
> 
> Regards Chris
> 
> On 23/02/2014 16:47, John Panarese wrote:
>>This is the opinion of one person who has his own reasons for doing so.  
>> Personally, I don't agree with his rationale as some of his points are 
>> completely flawed.  Also, going back to Windows?  Why?  If you need 
>> particular access, you can just use a virtual machine or boot camp.  I 
>> equate it to going back to using window air conditioner units throughout my 
>> house from the central air system we have had for the last 10 years.  
>> However, to each his own, and as I said on the Triple Click Home podcast, 
>> have fun storming the castle 
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
>>> guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor 
>>> do I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:
>>> 
 
 
 
 http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/switching-back-to-windows/
 
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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-23 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
yes, it is on my purchase item. but still im so afraid to uninstall garage band 
on my mac

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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-23 Thread Teresa Cochran
If it's in your purchase list, it will have a download button. If you uninstall 
it on your Mac, you can just press the download button and it will download it 
again. This download button will only show up if you have already purchased the 
item, so there's no danger of having to buy it again. You may have to sign in, 
but you won't have to re-purchase.

Hth,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-23 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
ok, if you said so,, please pray for me. :)
On 23 Feb 2014, at 08:50 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

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> uninstall it on your Mac, you can just press the download button and it will 
> download it again. This download button will only show up if you have already 
> purchased the item, so there's no danger of having to buy it again. You may 
> have to sign in, but you won't have to re-purchase.
> 
> Hth,
> Teresa
> 
> Slow down; you'll get there faster.
> 
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>> yes, it is on my purchase item. but still im so afraid to uninstall garage 
>> band on my mac
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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Richard Ring
For me, it's simple. I have a laptop running Windows 7, and my Macbook Pro. I 
accomplish most tasks using the Mac. I accomplish others using Windows. I do 
this because I find them easier to manage in Windows. I'm fortunate enough to 
be able to do both without installing Windows on my Mac, which I have no desire 
to do.
I love my Mac, and for some tasks, I love Windows. Life is about choices, and 
I'm happy with the ones I've made.


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
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> I was struck by the number of comments from people who said they based their 
> decisions to stick with Windows solely on his article. It was a very fair 
> article, although some of the points are just wrong, such as iBooks being as 
> inaccessible as he thinks. Anyhow, I wouldn't base my decision to do anything 
> on just one person's experience. 
> 
> It was interesting to read, but I'll stick with what I have. I like it well 
> enough, and as long as Apple commits to accessibility, I'll vote with my 
> wallet. Pure and simple for me.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Teresa Cochran
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> 
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
>> Man! you just knew this would get a thread going. Personally, I use both Mac 
>> and Windows in a VM, both have their attractions and strong points. I don't 
>> like the rather screwy accessibility breakage I'm seeing on the Mac, and I 
>> also don't like microsofts changing interfaces (e.g.. windows7 to window 8).
>> I have no loyalty to either brand, brand loyalty is just plain foolish  in 
>> my opinion. life is getting too short to look for and expect perfection 
>> anywhere.  I'll use whatever works at the moment without worrying too much 
>> about what doesn't.
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> I feel that is exactly the most important point.
>>> Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
>>> Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
>>> suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
>>> untrue.
>>> The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality 
>>> for everyone.   Respect that  the first question should  always be how will 
>>> this work for my personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to 
>>> express their individual choice without fear of condemnation by a 
>>> collective and nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for others to 
>>> respect your uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience anything, 
>>> including sight loss the same.  Time to respect this persons choices, he 
>>> said personal, owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as your seasoning 
>>> applies only to you.
>>> certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
>>> think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
>>> sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
>>> individual human  artistry, because no one lives in your body but you.
>>> 
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
 guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions nor 
 do I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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Re: Accessible sound editing or sequencsing software on the Mac question

2014-02-23 Thread Alex Hall
The latest version is 2.0.5. I don't know anything about a special version - 
the main release is accessible, and there is no secondary release that is more 
so. If things were different in the past, they must have merged the two some 
time ago and now anyone can download the full version.
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> What version of audacity is accessible now? Are we still on the special 
> version of 1.X or have we moved forward?
> /Krister
> 
>> 23 feb 2014 kl. 00:56 skrev Alex Hall :
>> 
>> Don't forget about Audacity. It's free, cross-platform, accessible, and easy 
>> to use once you get the hang of it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 18:38, "Christian"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jamie,
>>> Many thanks for that tip. Will check that out.
>>> Haven't used OSX for a very long time and I noticed that htings have 
>>> definitly changed since I tried it last time a few years ago.
>>> VO is definitly great to me so far.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2014-02-22 at 14:45 Jamie Pauls wrote:
 
 Hello, Christian:
 
 There is currently a thread on this list discussing Amadeus Pro which is a
 very accessible audio editing tool. I am told that Sound Forge also works,
 although it is not inexpensive. There are other programs, but they don't
 come to my mind at present. As for sequencing software, I don't know the
 answer to that one.
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:46 AM, Christian  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Does anyone know of any accessible sound editor or MIDI/Audio sequencer
 for the Mac that works with VoiceOver?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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Re: lots of questions on mac

2014-02-23 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
ok, i reinstall my garage band now for 5 time now and i haven't got any good 
result yet. i did even restart my computer after deleting the garage band, so 
what i am doing wrong? any more suggestions?

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Re: how to manage top sites with safari and voiceover under mavericks on a mac

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
WHen you are on the topsites screen interact with the button you don't want and 
you should find two items.

1. Never include in top Sites.
2. Always include in top sites.

I don't really use Top sites, so I can't tell you how well this might work.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



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> Hi,
> I need to know how to manage top sites on my macbook pro using  voiceover 
> under mavericks. their are sites in their I don't want. How, as a voiceover 
> user do I delete these items?
> Please respond soon,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
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Re: Safari Interaction Issue in Mavericks

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
This appears to be more of a problem if your VO settings for web are set to 
grouping rather then DOM>

1. VO-F8 to get VO Utility.
Control-5 to bring up web preferences.
3. in the navigation tab see if changing from group to dom helps.


Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Ibreheem,
> 
> Yeah I think those are two different issues, and I am getting the same issue 
> that you are of opening a page but being kept on the same page. I reviewed my 
> settings in VO Utility and safari last night, and am pretty sure it is a bug 
> as I couldn't find anything that was set incorrectly. Just hoping this OS 
> update that should be coming soon fixes some of these issues. Thanks, Brian
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Brian, 
>> 
>> I've noticed the same issue, accept my VO remains on the previous page. It 
>> doesn't jump to the tool bar. I have the setting set to have it jump into 
>> the new loaded page as well. I for some reason cannot open up hyperlinks in 
>> Apple mail either. If I right click on them, I get three options I believe. 
>> Copy link, open behind mail and open I think.
>> 
>> The only one which seems to work is the copy feature which I then paste the 
>> link into an address field. Sometimes however, I don't even have the option 
>> of handling the link when I right click a hyper link. This extreme case 
>> where there's a lack of opening and copying options  occurs  in all my NY 
>> Times articles.
>> 
>> Maybe these are two issues separate from each other. Just thought I'd chime 
>> in with you.
>> 
>> Peace,
>> 
>> Ibraheem
>> 
>> On Feb 22, 2014, at 1:25 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I have noticed in safari that a lot of the time whenever I open a new 
>>> window in safari by clicking on a link in page instead of VO being focused 
>>> in to the page I get brought in to the toolbar. I have my preferences set 
>>> to interact with the content of a new page or waterer it is called, but I 
>>> still land in the toolbar. I also end up in the tool bar or the previous 
>>> page I was viewing in safari most of the time when I click on a link in an 
>>> email instead of being brought to the new page. Is there a setting I am 
>>> missing or is this just the way safari is working in Mavericks. Thanks
>>> 
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
holding down the C key used to boot from the CD.  I don't think this has been 
disabled.

Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that have 
> CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there is 
> nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 
> 
> So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at 
> startup, but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there 
> are three options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is 
> which option is the CD drive?
> 
> Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> NVDA installed
> 
> Phonak Compilot
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
>> If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
>> after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press 
>> the left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the 
>> boot drive should be formated as journal extended or something if you want 
>> ot do a clean install.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your bootable 
>> CD in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in Disk 
>> Utility only tells you that the disk is there, not if it is bootable on a 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, 
>>> but not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it 
>>> worked. So I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. 
>>> Something happens but the screen is dark, I think since I don't see light. 
>>> I acually let my Mac sit for 15min, just give it time to load. But nothing 
>>> happens. So I tried thehard shutdown and restart holding C, still the same 
>>> thing. SI can hear the DVD drive spool up and spin for a min then it dies 
>>> down.
>>> 
>>> Do you guys know of another option? I hear that you can hold the Options 
>>> key at startup, but I don't know how many times you press the right arrow.
>>> 
>>> Any info on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> NVDA installed
>>> 
>>> Phonak Compilot
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go 
 under the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk pane. 
  Once in there, Interact with the Possible Startup Disks Scroll area and 
 choose your bootable CD/DVD by pressing VO-space on it.  Stop Interacting 
 with the Scroll area then press the Restart button in this pane.  If the 
 bootable CD/DVD does not show up in the Startup Disk pane, then it's not 
 bootable.  Also, if you know for sure that it is bootable, you can press 
 "c" as the startup chime sounds which will force the Mac to startup from a 
 bootable CD/DVD.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
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  wrote:
 
> Hello everyone!
> 
> 
> I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a 
> shot by running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO 
> file to a cd, so I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook 
> Pro set by default to first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? 
> If not, is it accessable to change that?
> 
> Any info on this would be very very helpful, thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
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> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> NVDA installed
> 
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how do you back up contacts, bookmarks and calendar?

2014-02-23 Thread Laura ann Grymes
How do you back up contacts, bookmarks and calendar on the mac using Mountain 
Lion?

I have an external Hard drive I want to back up my files too.
Are their settings files that I can also back up?

For some things I have read I need to go to library and safari for backing up 
bookmarks but I cannot find a safari folder?

Thanks for your help.

Laura Ann


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Re: Accessible sound editing or sequencsing software on the Mac question

2014-02-23 Thread Jamie Pauls
patrick Purdue, one of the audio engineers for the Serotek podcast network 
tells me that while all the controls for Reaper are visible to VoiceOver, they 
do not appear in any logical order, thereby making reaper on the Mac very 
inefficient to use. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Ronald van Rhijn  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> You can try Reaper, last time I saw it it looked pretty accessible. 
> Ronald
> 
>> Op 21 feb. 2014, om 07:46 heeft Christian  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Does anyone know of any accessible sound editor or MIDI/Audio sequencer for 
>> the Mac that works with VoiceOver?
>> Many thanks,
>> Christian
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Re: how to manage top sites with safari and voiceover under mavericks on a mac

2014-02-23 Thread Jessica
It works very well. Thanks for the tip.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:06 PM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
> 
> WHen you are on the topsites screen interact with the button you don't want 
> and you should find two items.
> 
> 1. Never include in top Sites.
> 2. Always include in top sites.
> 
> I don't really use Top sites, so I can't tell you how well this might work.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I need to know how to manage top sites on my macbook pro using  voiceover 
>> under mavericks. their are sites in their I don't want. How, as a voiceover 
>> user do I delete these items?
>> Please respond soon,
>> 
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-23 Thread Aimee Harwood
Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going to 
get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, those 
of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 
productively, or would I be better off with an 80?

Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, 
but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I 
will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will 
keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back and 
forth between display and keyboard? 

If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly with 
the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 

Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my 
Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use it 
with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use it 
with the other.

Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom 
Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus 
even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?

Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille 
and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With 
that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be a 
better fit for me?

Brailliant BI
VarioConnect
Braille edge
Focus
Active Braille

Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you 
think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but may 
not be able to get my hands on all of them.

I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where they 
are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. 
Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't 
found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions 
would be greatly appreciated.

Aimee 

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Re: switching back to windows.

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I agree with everyone here. I feel right now my Mac is more productive. Why? 
When I lost my vision, I just went to the Mac first. I am now learning how to 
use Windows 7 with NVDA. But I know my Mac so I feel the Mac is better, and 
that is just due to I know and what to expect. But, from what I see from 
everyone, there are things you can do on a Mac, or Windows, or even on a Linux, 
that you can't do for others. So each to his own.

As a future adaptive technology trainer, I am trying to learn all platforms and 
have an open mind. But, I do have to admit, I am kinda loyal to Apple, lol.

But, I do agree with the blogs ideas how the Mac is frustrating. A lot of 
things he stated, I have found a workaround, and I am quite happy with this 
setup. So having VM Fusion, with Windows, and Linux would be the most 
productive of all.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

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On Feb 23, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> For me, it's simple. I have a laptop running Windows 7, and my Macbook Pro. I 
> accomplish most tasks using the Mac. I accomplish others using Windows. I do 
> this because I find them easier to manage in Windows. I'm fortunate enough to 
> be able to do both without installing Windows on my Mac, which I have no 
> desire to do.
> I love my Mac, and for some tasks, I love Windows. Life is about choices, and 
> I'm happy with the ones I've made.
> 
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com
> 
> On Feb 23, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> I was struck by the number of comments from people who said they based their 
>> decisions to stick with Windows solely on his article. It was a very fair 
>> article, although some of the points are just wrong, such as iBooks being as 
>> inaccessible as he thinks. Anyhow, I wouldn't base my decision to do 
>> anything on just one person's experience. 
>> 
>> It was interesting to read, but I'll stick with what I have. I like it well 
>> enough, and as long as Apple commits to accessibility, I'll vote with my 
>> wallet. Pure and simple for me.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran
>> batsfly...@me.com
>> Facebook
>> 
>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:15 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>>> Man! you just knew this would get a thread going. Personally, I use both 
>>> Mac and Windows in a VM, both have their attractions and strong points. I 
>>> don't like the rather screwy accessibility breakage I'm seeing on the Mac, 
>>> and I also don't like microsofts changing interfaces (e.g.. windows7 to 
>>> window 8).
>>> I have no loyalty to either brand, brand loyalty is just plain foolish  in 
>>> my opinion. life is getting too short to look for and expect perfection 
>>> anywhere.  I'll use whatever works at the moment without worrying too much 
>>> about what doesn't.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 23, 2014, at 12:02 PM, Karen Lewellen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Tim,
 I feel that is exactly the most important point.
 Computer choices are totally and completely individual, as they should be. 
 Any  suggestion that  one method or means works for  anyone but yourself 
 suggests that there is no  individual human differences which is simply 
 untrue.
 The sooner people stop suggesting that stereotypes translate into reality 
 for everyone.   Respect that  the first question should  always be how 
 will this work for my personal needs?   and that individual encouraged to 
 express their individual choice without fear of condemnation by a 
 collective and nonexistent community,   the easier it will be for others 
 to respect your uniqueness.  There are no two people who experience 
 anything, including sight loss the same.  Time to respect this persons 
 choices, he said personal, owning that they apply to him alone.  Just as 
 your seasoning applies only to you.
 certainly you can share  how you managed a problem, but no one should ever 
 think that their choices to do it differently is somehow less than 
 sensational...for them.  There is no one size fits tool to accomplish 
 individual human  artistry, because no one lives in your body but you.
 
 Karen
 
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2014, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Hmmm, interesting.  Whatever works best for you and your own situation, I 
> guess.  I'm more than fine with my Macs and have no similar intentions 
> nor do I necessarily agree with all his sentiments.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mario Navarro  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.marcozehe.de/2014/02/07/sw

Re: how do you back up contacts, bookmarks and calendar?

2014-02-23 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
There are a few choices.

1. Use TimeMachine.
2. Backup the appropriate directories in ~/Library.
3. In at least Contacts/Adress book and Safari there are export commands. This 
is also available in Calendar on Mavericks so iCal probably has this feature 
too.
4. Use iCloud (just trust it) it will keep all this information in sync on all 
your devices unless  you delete it all.



Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Feb 23, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Laura ann Grymes  wrote:

> How do you back up contacts, bookmarks and calendar on the mac using Mountain 
> Lion?
> 
> I have an external Hard drive I want to back up my files too.
> Are their settings files that I can also back up?
> 
> For some things I have read I need to go to library and safari for backing up 
> bookmarks but I cannot find a safari folder?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Laura Ann
> 
> 
> Laura ann Grymes
> agape.wellness.mass...@gmail.com
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RE: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-23 Thread Scott Erichsen
Hi,
Personally, I'd go a 40cell display. Easier and less expensive.
Your choices are:
Focus40Blue from FreedomScientific
Brailliant BI40 from HumanWare
BrailleEdge from HIMS which is a 40cell display with notetaking
functionality.
Hope this helps.
Scott


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aimee Harwood
Sent: Monday, 24 February 2014 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: The age old question of which braille display to get

Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going
to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is,
those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a
40 productively, or would I be better off with an 80?

Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple
products, but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a
chance, I will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which
display will keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time
going back and forth between display and keyboard? 

If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly
with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 

Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with
my Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to
use it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I
can use it with the other.

Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is
Freedom Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing
a Focus even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?

Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a
Refreshabraille and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like
the joystick. With that in mind with all the other comments and concerns,
which display would be a better fit for me?

Brailliant BI
VarioConnect
Braille edge
Focus
Active Braille

Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you
think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but
may not be able to get my hands on all of them.

I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where
they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit.
Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't
found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Aimee 

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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Yeah, something is going on here lol. When I get back to work on thursday I 
will try out my other computer there.

thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 23, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> holding down the C key used to boot from the CD.  I don't think this has been 
> disabled.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that 
>> have CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there 
>> is nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp. 
>> 
>> So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at 
>> startup, but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there 
>> are three options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is 
>> which option is the CD drive?
>> 
>> Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> NVDA installed
>> 
>> Phonak Compilot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>>> If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
>>> after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press 
>>> the left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the 
>>> boot drive should be formated as journal extended or something if you want 
>>> ot do a clean install.
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> 
>>> 21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your 
>>> bootable CD in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in 
>>> Disk Utility only tells you that the disk is there, not if it is bootable 
>>> on a Mac.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Ok, I tried the Disk Utility and I can see the Mac HD drive and Bootcamp, 
 but not the bootable cd. So I tried the cd on another Windows PC and it 
 worked. So I went back to my Mac, and tried holding C when I restart. 
 Something happens but the screen is dark, I think since I don't see light. 
 I acually let my Mac sit for 15min, just give it time to load. But nothing 
 happens. So I tried thehard shutdown and restart holding C, still the same 
 thing. SI can hear the DVD drive spool up and spin for a min then it dies 
 down.
 
 Do you guys know of another option? I hear that you can hold the Options 
 key at startup, but I don't know how many times you press the right arrow.
 
 Any info on this would be very much appreciated. Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
 iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
 4GB Dual Channel DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 NVDA installed
 
 Phonak Compilot
 
 
 
 
 
 On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Best thing to do is to have the CD/DVD loaded into your drive then go 
> under the Apple menu to System Preferences and open the Startup Disk 
> pane.  Once in there, Interact with the Possible Startup Disks Scroll 
> area and choose your bootable CD/DVD by pressing VO-space on it.  Stop 
> Interacting with the Scroll area then press the Restart button in this 
> pane.  If the bootable CD/DVD does not show up in the Startup Disk pane, 
> then it's not bootable.  Also, if you know for sure that it is bootable, 
> you can press "c" as the startup chime sounds which will force the Mac to 
> startup from a bootable CD/DVD.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone!
>> 
>> 
>> I have been reading up on Linux accessabilty and want to give Vinux a 
>> shot by running off a bootable CD. So far I figured how to burn an ISO 
>> file to a cd, so I hope it is good. But my question is, is the Macbook 
>> Pro set by default to first boot from the Optical drive before the HDD? 
>

Testing New Email, Someone Please Reply

2014-02-23 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I'm switching everything over to iCloud mail, and am just testing this 
subscription to be sure it is all working. Can someone reply, just so I'm sure 
I am getting messages and that my filter is working? Thanks.

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RE: Testing New Email, Someone Please Reply

2014-02-23 Thread Scott Erichsen
Working fine

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Monday, 24 February 2014 2:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Testing New Email, Someone Please Reply

 

Hi all,

I'm switching everything over to iCloud mail, and am just testing this
subscription to be sure it is all working. Can someone reply, just so I'm
sure I am getting messages and that my filter is working? Thanks.


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Re: how to manage top sites with safari and voiceover under mavericks on a mac

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel C
I would try to see how it works for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Jessica  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I need to know how to manage top sites on my macbook pro using  voiceover 
> under mavericks. their are sites in their I don't want. How, as a voiceover 
> user do I delete these items?
> Please respond soon,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: booting up from a CD

2014-02-23 Thread Chris Blouch
The link pasted below to a discussion thread might help you track down 
some answers. Apparently Windows boxes use BIOS and Macs use EFI 
firmware for bootstrapping the machine. So while the Linux bases are 
nearly identical, the bootup process is different and you'll need to 
have an EFI-based booter to make things go. Most distributions assume a 
BIOS-based box.


http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34117/why-wont-my-macbook-pro-boot-from-a-linux-live-cd

CB

On 2/22/14 10:43 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hmm, thanks for letting me know. I am going to try n see if I can get my flash 
drive to be bootable too. More research!

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Bootable on a Windows machine doesn't always mean bootable on your Mac though.  
If you're not seeing in in the possible Startup Disks, then your Mac won't boot 
from it no matter which method you try.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Hello,

I completely understand you. Under the Startup menu I don't see the bootable 
cd, but yet that cd does work on a Windows PC, so I know the cd is bootable. I 
have seen the guide how to make a bootable flashdrive, but I am not sure the 
program that you are to use on the Mac is accessable, and it involves command 
line use. That is over my head lol.

But now, when I try to boot from the cd, by pressing C, there issomething on 
the screen if I turn off the lights, but nothing happens. Vinux should start 
talking when it starts up, so now I think the bootable cd is now working, I 
just need to find a sighted person.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:


Hi,

Either I'm not understanding you, your typing different info than you're doing, 
or your not quite understanding what I'm recommending that you do.  Disk 
Utility will not assist you with the boot-ability of your CD.  Your absolute 
best method is to go into the System Preferences, press on Startup Disks and 
see if the CD that you hope to boot from is listed there.  If it is, VO-space 
on it then navigate over to the Restart button.  If it's not there, then your 
CD is not bootable by your Mac.  Holding down the Option key at startup will 
only give you the list of possible Startup Disks that this pane gives you while 
in System Preferences, with the added issue that it is not accessible.  For the 
most part, the Option key method is only useful to you once you know that 
something is bootable.  There are a number of reasons why it may not boot with 
your Mac including disk format, external vs internal device etc.  Here's an 
article on creating a bootable USB drive that may assist you in this endeavour.

http://www.techusers.net/6/how-create-linux-bootable-usb-drive-mac-osx-using-dd-command

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:


Ok, the Vinux cd is bootable. I can do this on a different computer that have 
CD drive first to boot before the Harddrive. Also in Disk Utility there is 
nothing about a disk other than the Mactintosh HD and Bootcamp.

So, I am stumped here, I was thinking about holding the Options key at startup, 
but I have Bootcamp with Windows 7 already installed. I know there are three 
options to choose from other than the Super drive. The thing is which option is 
the CD drive?

Have anyone else successfuly booted a Linux cd on a Macbook Pro?
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4
iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb
iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz
4GB Dual Channel DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
NVDA installed

Phonak Compilot





On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Terje Strømberg  wrote:


If you get a black screen, your disk is not bootable. Hold down your option 
after hearing the start up chime and hold it for a minute to be sure. Press the 
left arrow one time if you dont have more bootable disks. In OSX the boot drive 
should be formated as journal extended or something if you want ot do a clean 
install.

Take care

21. feb. 2014 kl. 22:47 skrev Tim Kilburn :

Hi,

When you go into System Prefs, in the Startup Disks pane, with your bootable CD 
in the drive, do you see it as a startup option?  Seeing it in Disk Utility 
only tells you 

Re: The age old question of which braille display to get

2014-02-23 Thread Justin Mann
Hi Amy,

Another braille display that I would consider is the alva BC640.  It has all 
the features that you've been looking for, but will also work with two devices. 
 I use an alva with my iPhone, and it also works with the Mac as well.  
On Feb 23, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Aimee Harwood  wrote:

> Hello listers. I am trying to decide what braille display to get. I am going 
> to get at least a 40 but am considering an 80. My main question to you is, 
> those of you that use your displays for work, which is better? Can I use a 40 
> productively, or would I be better off with an 80?
> 
> Next is the question about connectivity. I currently have all Apple products, 
> but know that when I finally find an employer that will give me a chance, I 
> will most likely will ,e using Windows and probably JAWS. Which display will 
> keep my hands on the display more and reduce the amount of time going back 
> and forth between display and keyboard? 
> 
> If I end up going with a 40 cell display, which one works more seamlessly 
> with the iPhone, and MacBook Pro? 
> 
> Is there a display that can be paired with more than one device? Like with my 
> Refreshabraille, I have to make sure my iPad is turned off if I want to use 
> it with my iPhone, or I have to tell one device to forget it before I can use 
> it with the other.
> 
> Which displays can be supported and repaired in the United States? Is Freedom 
> Scintific's maintenance agreement worth the price and worth choosing a Focus 
> even if it isn't your favorite just to have the agreement?
> 
> Here are the displays that I am considering I currently use a Refreshabraille 
> and like the feel of the dots, like the keyboard, and like the joystick. With 
> that in mind with all the other comments and concerns, which display would be 
> a better fit for me?
> 
> Brailliant BI
> VarioConnect
> Braille edge
> Focus
> Active Braille
> 
> Feel free to make any other recommendations if I haven't listed one that you 
> think would be a good fit. I am trying to get my hands on some of these but 
> may not be able to get my hands on all of them.
> 
> I have been reading a lot of archived messages and looking at sites where 
> they are sold, but I still ckn't figure out which will be the best fit. 
> Unfortunately people don't go to sites and give feedback. I really haven't 
> found a lot of reviews online or on youtube. Any and all help or suggestions 
> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Aimee 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: how to manage top sites with safari and voiceover under mavericks on a mac

2014-02-23 Thread Daniel Chavez
Great. works fine.

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Re: Safari Interaction Issue in Mavericks

2014-02-23 Thread Anne Robertson
I hardly ever have this problem and I use Groups mode in Safari most of the 
time.

Could it be related to having the mouse follow the other cursors? I never do 
this.

Cheers,

Anne


On 23 Feb 2014, at 23:09, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> This appears to be more of a problem if your VO settings for web are set to 
> grouping rather then DOM>
> 
> 1. VO-F8 to get VO Utility.
> Control-5 to bring up web preferences.
> 3. in the navigation tab see if changing from group to dom helps.
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan

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