Re: Hebrew voice and hebrew braille for mac

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

*raises an  feminine eyebrow at Matt*
I don't know if it works on mavericks, but at least on ml, it works
gorgeously. The reason that i know that is cause we use it on the
Flightsim for the simulated radio communication   all the time.
I have too admit making it on ml was a bit of a problem, we was close
too just use the macs internal voices, but decided against it cause
Espeak is snappier, and  don't use so much memory.
Will see if i can find the time too upgrade the Mac pro later today
and see if i can make it run.


On 1/19/14, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> No, and besides, Espeak isn’t available for the mac.
>
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> On Jan 19, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse 
> wrote:
>
>> hi, can't help you with braille but i believe that Espeak do have it
>> as a language?
>>
>>
>> best Sandi
>>
>> On 1/19/14, Greg Aikens  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I’m trying to find a way to read hebrew braille on my mac.  I found an
>>> old
>>> post in the archives that list a supported package for international
>>> braille
>>> codes but it looked like it was for Snow Leopard.  The link is
>>> http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of anything more recent or will this package still work
>>> for
>>> me in mavericks?  In VO utility I see support for many international
>>> braille
>>> codes but not hebrew.
>>>
>>> A TTS voice would be a nice bonus, but the braille is more important to
>>> me.
>>> Any tips?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Greg
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Re: Tutorial for Pages Table of Content

[Tim Hornik]

Nick,

Thank you for the resource and heads up on the Headings. With my already 
existing documents, I tried the reverse route of ToC first then Headings. I 
will try to reformat for Headings first then bring in the ToC option.

As for your resource, here is a link for the english translation. 

http://cecimac.org/english.htm

Thank you for your assistance,
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Re: Jumping to a specific page in the new pages

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Matt,

I haven’t found a way to jump directly to a specific page, but if you show the 
thumbnails (Cmd-Option-p), you have a table in which the row number corresponds 
to the page number, so it’s a quicker way to get to the desired page than just 
scrolling through all the pages.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi all.
> Is there, by chance, a way to jump from say, page 2 to 20 in a pages 
> documents? Also, is there a way to stop pages from asking me if I always to 
> save my documents as .pages files?
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Re: Jumping to a specific page in the new pages

[Daniela Rubio]

what I usually do, is bring the thumbnails and with the item chooser, I writ  
the page number I want and it is a very fast way, better tan nothing.
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507



El 20/01/2014, a las 17:18, Anne Robertson  escribió:

> Hello Matt,
> 
> I haven’t found a way to jump directly to a specific page, but if you show 
> the thumbnails (Cmd-Option-p), you have a table in which the row number 
> corresponds to the page number, so it’s a quicker way to get to the desired 
> page than just scrolling through all the pages.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 20 Jan 2014, at 04:10, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> Is there, by chance, a way to jump from say, page 2 to 20 in a pages 
>> documents? Also, is there a way to stop pages from asking me if I always to 
>> save my documents as .pages files?
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>> 
>> 
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Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7

[Mike Busboom]

Hello listers,

Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text 
messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed 
there.

Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, 
the message is always sent to the landline phone instead.  Since this isn't 
possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text message 
can't be sent to a landline phone.  There is absolutely no doubt in my mind 
that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone.  If a person sends me a 
message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the recipient's 
cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to anyone in my 
contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number listed.  I 
suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any landline numbers 
there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better solution.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Mike

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Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7

[Ray Foret Jr]

This same thing happens to me also.  I sort of thought I was the only one or 
else that I had not entered information correctly.  I assume you already 
reported this to Apple?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hello listers,
> 
> Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text 
> messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed 
> there.
> 
> Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile phone, 
> the message is always sent to the landline phone instead.  Since this isn't 
> possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text 
> message can't be sent to a landline phone.  There is absolutely no doubt in 
> my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone.  If a person 
> sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the 
> recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to 
> anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number 
> listed.  I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any 
> landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better 
> solution.
> 
> Thanks for any thoughts.
> 
> Mike
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Re: can't play youtube videos in safari

[Rachel Feinberg]

Chrome includes flash, so if possible, you can play yOutube videos in that 
browser.
Sorry I can't be more help with installing Flash player.

On Jan 19, 2014, at 9:42 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> That may be my problem with Safari. I keep on getting Adobe flash player 
> install, but the install wizard is not accessable. Anyone got a idea how to 
> install myself without me running to my wife?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
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> On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> try to install flash player
>> Il giorno 19/gen/2014, alle ore 05:35 PM, Phil Halton  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> I use MacTubes a lot for viewing videos on YouTube and between it and 
>>> safari, if one is being problematic, the other one seems to work. MacTubes 
>>> is great and might be worth your trouble investigating.
>>> ∂
>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I can search for youtube videos in safari, but I can’t play them. I press 
 vo space on the links, but nothing happens.
 Any help is appreciated 
 Hope everyone has a good day,
 Andrew 
 Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
 
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Re: can't play youtube videos in safari

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi,

Adobe Flash is as of Mavericks built in OSX. You have to enable Flash by going 
to the Safari settings with cmd+, when Safari is active and select the Advanced 
button. Then you see an option concerning internet plugins. By default these 
are disabled to save power usage. I believe when deselecting this option the 
Flash player should work properly.

hth,
Ronald

Op 19 jan. 2014, om 17:35 heeft Phil Halton  het volgende 
geschreven:

> I use MacTubes a lot for viewing videos on YouTube and between it and safari, 
> if one is being problematic, the other one seems to work. MacTubes is great 
> and might be worth your trouble investigating.
> ∂
> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I can search for youtube videos in safari, but I can’t play them. I press vo 
>> space on the links, but nothing happens.
>> Any help is appreciated 
>> Hope everyone has a good day,
>> Andrew 
>> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: can't play youtube videos in safari

[Ronald van Rhijn]

Hi,
Last time I installed the standalone Flash player I could do it with voice 
Over. If I recall correctly, you have to tab go get to the right buttons.
did you try that?

Ronald

Op 20 jan. 2014, om 06:42 heeft Daniel Hawkins  
het volgende geschreven:

> That may be my problem with Safari. I keep on getting Adobe flash player 
> install, but the install wizard is not accessable. Anyone got a idea how to 
> install myself without me running to my wife?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Jan 19, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera  
> wrote:
> 
>> try to install flash player
>> Il giorno 19/gen/2014, alle ore 05:35 PM, Phil Halton  
>> ha scritto:
>> 
>>> I use MacTubes a lot for viewing videos on YouTube and between it and 
>>> safari, if one is being problematic, the other one seems to work. MacTubes 
>>> is great and might be worth your trouble investigating.
>>> ∂
>>> On Jan 18, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I can search for youtube videos in safari, but I can’t play them. I press 
 vo space on the links, but nothing happens.
 Any help is appreciated 
 Hope everyone has a good day,
 Andrew 
 Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
 
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Braille sense with the mac

[Matt Dierckens]

Hello guys.
I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we’re trying to pair it with 
his macbook air running Mavriks.
The only problem is:
1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears 
again. What should we do?
Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a 
Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any help 
appreciated. Thank you.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
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RE: Braille sense with the mac

[Scott Erichsen]

Hi Matt,

Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under
mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.

It will work via USB.

Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.

Sorry about that.

Scott

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille sense with the mac

 

Hello guys.

I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we're trying to pair it with
his macbook air running Mavriks.

The only problem is:

1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?

2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears
again. What should we do?

Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a
Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any
help appreciated. Thank you.

Matt Dierckens

Macintosh Trainer

Blind Access Training

www.blindaccesstraining.com

1-877-774-7670 ext. 4

 

 

 

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Re: Braille sense with the mac

[Matt Dierckens]

Good to know. Thanks a bunch Scott.
Is there by chance a reference guide for this display?
Matt Dierckens
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On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under 
> mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.
> It will work via USB.
> Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.
> Sorry about that.
> Scott
>  
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Braille sense with the mac
>  
> Hello guys.
> I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we’re trying to pair it with 
> his macbook air running Mavriks.
> The only problem is:
> 1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
> 2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears 
> again. What should we do?
> Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a 
> Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any 
> help appreciated. Thank you.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
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RE: Braille sense with the mac

[Scott Erichsen]

All the info is on Apple's accessibility page. I don't have one here, but
there is definitely a command list I'm sure of it.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille sense with the mac

 

Good to know. Thanks a bunch Scott.

Is there by chance a reference guide for this display?

Matt Dierckens

Macintosh Trainer

Blind Access Training

www.blindaccesstraining.com

1-877-774-7670 ext. 4

 

 

 

On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Scott Erichsen 
wrote:





Hi Matt,

Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under
mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.

It will work via USB.

Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.

Sorry about that.

Scott

 

 

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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
To:  
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille sense with the mac

 

Hello guys.

I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we're trying to pair it with
his macbook air running Mavriks.

The only problem is:

1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?

2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears
again. What should we do?

Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a
Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any
help appreciated. Thank you.

Matt Dierckens

Macintosh Trainer

Blind Access Training

  www.blindaccesstraining.com

1-877-774-7670 ext. 4

 

 

 

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Re: Braille sense with the mac

[Robert C]

   The list of commands is in the user manual for the U2.

Quote of the nanosecond . . .
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On 1/20/2014 12:59 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

Good to know. Thanks a bunch Scott.
Is there by chance a reference guide for this display?
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 4




On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:


Hi Matt,
Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under 
mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.
It will work via USB.
Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.
Sorry about that.
Scott


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Braille sense with the mac

Hello guys.
I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we’re trying to pair it with 
his macbook air running Mavriks.
The only problem is:
1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears 
again. What should we do?
Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a 
Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any help 
appreciated. Thank you.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 4




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Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7

[Daniel Hawkins]

Hmm, no I don’t get this. I do a lot of group messages and it is buggy, but not 
sending to wrong number..
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 20, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> This same thing happens to me also.  I sort of thought I was the only one or 
> else that I had not entered information correctly.  I assume you already 
> reported this to Apple?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
>> Hello listers,
>> 
>> Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text 
>> messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed 
>> there.
>> 
>> Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile 
>> phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead.  Since this 
>> isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text 
>> message can't be sent to a landline phone.  There is absolutely no doubt in 
>> my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone.  If a person 
>> sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the 
>> recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to 
>> anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number 
>> listed.  I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any 
>> landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better 
>> solution.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Mike
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question about braille input

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
I am using a brilliant display with my i mac.

I am new to this display.

do I need to use computer braille when I input things from the display, or can 
I use contracted braille?
I looked for documentation for this, but can only find stuff for windows.
thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Braille sense with the mac

[Matt Dierckens]

THanks, I’ll take a look.
Matt Dierckens
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On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:

> All the info is on Apple’s accessibility page. I don’t have one here, but 
> there is definitely a command list I’m sure of it.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:59 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille sense with the mac
>  
> Good to know. Thanks a bunch Scott.
> Is there by chance a reference guide for this display?
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
> 
>  
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Scott Erichsen  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Matt,
> Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under 
> mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.
> It will work via USB.
> Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.
> Sorry about that.
> Scott
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Braille sense with the mac
>  
> Hello guys.
> I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we’re trying to pair it with 
> his macbook air running Mavriks.
> The only problem is:
> 1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
> 2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears 
> again. What should we do?
> Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a 
> Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any 
> help appreciated. Thank you.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
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Enlarging menus

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
A friend of mine has a  mac and is slowly loosing vision.  He has figured out 
how to make the text larger but not the menus and icons.  Is there a way to do 
this?  I'm strictly a voiceover user and not sure what to tell him.
Thanks in advance.
Jim

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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

[Christina C.]

I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears to 
be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others with  
various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and equipment. 
I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are behind the ball 
if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my loyalties are at 
this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always be a good thing. 
Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future especially since I’d like 
the ability to use a robust OCR  scanning software with a camera instead of a 
traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will consider putting windows on my 
computer with  boot camp or a virtual environment. So, for me this topic is 
important to discuss even though I am a mac user.

Christina

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Re: help with mail

[Christina C.]

Hmmm, I would be willing to try to help but I don’t have enough information. I 
am running latest version of Maverick and I am not having any trouble at all 
with apple mail…at least nothing to my knowledge. :) Do you have an iDevice 
where mail is working perfectly fine?

Christina

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Re: question about braille input

[erik burggraaf]

Hi,  You can use contracted braille.

Best,

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On 2014-01-20, at 4:59 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am using a brilliant display with my i mac.
> 
> I am new to this display.
> 
> do I need to use computer braille when I input things from the display, or 
> can I use contracted braille?
> I looked for documentation for this, but can only find stuff for windows.
> thanks,
> Caitlyn
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RE: Hebrew voice and hebrew braille for mac

[Rafi Cohen]

Hi Greg and others, there is not official support for Hebrew neither through
voice nor braille.
However, I found out that when you choose a European non-English braille
table (German, Spanish etc) you can read Hebrew text in braille. This is
true both for Mac and IOS devices. The drawback is to get used to European
notation for digits, punctuations and other symbols, but except that it
works well.
The cecimac tables are not relevant beyond Snow Leopard.
Concerning voice, for now there is no solution.
Vocalizer Expressive includes a Hebrew voice named Karmit but rumors say
that Apple insists that Nuance will build a voice separation mechanism. By
voice separation I mean that English text will be spoken by English voice
and Hebrew text by Hebrew voice.
Whether this rumor is true ot not, I hope Apple will include Hebrew support
to Voiceover as soon as possible.
Thanks, Rafi.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 5:22 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hebrew voice and hebrew braille for mac

Hello all,
I'm trying to find a way to read hebrew braille on my mac.  I found an old
post in the archives that list a supported package for international braille
codes but it looked like it was for Snow Leopard.  The link is
http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm

Does anyone know of anything more recent or will this package still work for
me in mavericks?  In VO utility I see support for many international braille
codes but not hebrew.  

A TTS voice would be a nice bonus, but the braille is more important to me.
Any tips?

Thanks,

Greg

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Re: question about braille input

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Thanks!
I was hoping I could.  I detest typing in basically grade one!
Cait

On Jan 20, 2014, at 6:21 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Hi,  You can use contracted braille.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2014-01-20, at 4:59 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I am using a brilliant display with my i mac.
>> 
>> I am new to this display.
>> 
>> do I need to use computer braille when I input things from the display, or 
>> can I use contracted braille?
>> I looked for documentation for this, but can only find stuff for windows.
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
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Re: Braille sense with the mac

[don bishop]

Guess this problem doesn't apply to the braille edge as have been using it 
successfully with bluetooth since upgrading to Mavericks.
Don



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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:55 pm
Subject: RE: Braille sense with the mac

>
>
> Hi Matt,
> Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work under 
> mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.
> It will work via USB.
> Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.
> Sorry about that.
> Scott
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Braille sense with the mac
>  
> Hello guys.
> I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we're trying to pair it with 
> his macbook air running Mavriks.
> The only problem is:
> 1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
> 2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears 
> again. What should we do?
> Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a 
> Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any 
> help appreciated. Thank you.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
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Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail and 
Macmail. After  a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my busy busy 
problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people and they 
kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. I connected 
via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my issue was 
caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good hour to check 
settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after that did 
nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail busy issue. 
I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple gave me for a 
VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes and as soon as I 
launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail account from mail to 
see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and sure enough mail worked 
fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What angers me so much is 
Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December fixed the gmail and mac 
mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to Mavericks was because of 
the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the issue is fixed when it is 
obviously gmail causing my problem.

I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was 
never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I deleted 
all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has gone 
through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it.

Thanks for listening.

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RE: Hebrew voice and hebrew braille for mac

[Devin Prater]

As a language lover, I am surprised that Apple would reject a voice. However, 
Apple does have Vina, Susan, and Olivou which NVDA does not have. I disonder 
why this is? Also, some vocalizer voices can speak other languages, sort of. 
Karen seems to have learned Russian, for example.

Rafi Cohen  wrote:

>Hi Greg and others, there is not official support for Hebrew neither through
>voice nor braille.
>However, I found out that when you choose a European non-English braille
>table (German, Spanish etc) you can read Hebrew text in braille. This is
>true both for Mac and IOS devices. The drawback is to get used to European
>notation for digits, punctuations and other symbols, but except that it
>works well.
>The cecimac tables are not relevant beyond Snow Leopard.
>Concerning voice, for now there is no solution.
>Vocalizer Expressive includes a Hebrew voice named Karmit but rumors say
>that Apple insists that Nuance will build a voice separation mechanism. By
>voice separation I mean that English text will be spoken by English voice
>and Hebrew text by Hebrew voice.
>Whether this rumor is true ot not, I hope Apple will include Hebrew support
>to Voiceover as soon as possible.
>Thanks, Rafi.
>
>-Original Message-
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>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Aikens
>Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 5:22 AM
>To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Hebrew voice and hebrew braille for mac
>
>Hello all,
>I'm trying to find a way to read hebrew braille on my mac.  I found an old
>post in the archives that list a supported package for international braille
>codes but it looked like it was for Snow Leopard.  The link is
>http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm
>
>Does anyone know of anything more recent or will this package still work for
>me in mavericks?  In VO utility I see support for many international braille
>codes but not hebrew.  
>
>A TTS voice would be a nice bonus, but the braille is more important to me.
>Any tips?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Greg
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RE: Braille sense with the mac

[Scott Erichsen]

It doesn't apply to the Edge, just the Sense devices.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of don bishop
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 11:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Braille sense with the mac

Guess this problem doesn't apply to the braille edge as have been using it
successfully with bluetooth since upgrading to Mavericks.
Don



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Date: Monday, January 20, 2014 12:55 pm
Subject: RE: Braille sense with the mac

>
>
> Hi Matt,
> Sorry to give you bad news, but the BrailleSense devices will not work
under mavericks as Bluetooth braille displays at the moment.
> It will work via USB.
> Apple are awhere and we just have to wait for an update.
> Sorry about that.
> Scott
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2014 7:48 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Braille sense with the mac
>  
> Hello guys.
> I have a client who has a Braille sense U2, and we're trying to pair it
with his macbook air running Mavriks.
> The only problem is:
> 1. We need a pass code. I assume its ?
> 2. Whenever he types in , the window disappears, and promptly appears
again. What should we do?
> Also, is there a command list of the Braille sense keys for VO? I have a
Brailliant display but not sure how to use the Braille sense with VO. Any
help appreciated. Thank you.
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>  
>  
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Mavericks and the Braille display wake-up issues

[Vic]

Hi,
I don't know if this is just an issue for Humanware Brailliant-32 displays 
but I noticed that once the Braille display goes to sleep, as a result of 
its own power-saving features or a result of  the computer going to sleep, 
 but it does not wake back up unless I reconnect the USB cable and/or 
restart VoiceOver.

Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
Best,
Victor

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Re: Mavericks and the Braille display wake-up issues

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
I have a Braille Edge 40, and I do not have this problem. In fact, I can turn 
on and off my display and VoiceOver just goes from the braille display to 
speech only with no trouble. Have you asked HumanWare about this? 

Regards,
Gigi

On Jan 20, 2014, at 7:53 PM, Vic  wrote:

> Hi,
> I don't know if this is just an issue for Humanware Brailliant-32 displays 
> but I noticed that once the Braille display goes to sleep, as a result of its 
> own power-saving features or a result of  the computer going to sleep,  but 
> it does not wake back up unless I reconnect the USB cable and/or restart 
> VoiceOver.
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this behavior?
> Best,
> Victor
> 
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Re: Enlarging menus

[Alex Hall]

I've not played with it, as I'm a Voiceover user as well, but what
about Zoom? I believe you can configure what it enlarges and when, and
control the zoom level on the fly. Have a look: System Preferences >
Accessibility > Zoom.

On 1/20/14, Jim Gatteys  wrote:
> Hi all!
> A friend of mine has a  mac and is slowly loosing vision.  He has figured
> out how to make the text larger but not the menus and icons.  Is there a way
> to do this?  I'm strictly a voiceover user and not sure what to tell him.
> Thanks in advance.
> Jim
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RSS syncing with the Newsify iOS app?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I recently started using Newsify on iOS. I noticed it has a couple
different sync options, and I'm wondering which I should do? I want it
to be free, and I want it to sync with the rss reader I have on the
Mac, Readkit. What's the best way to do this? Thanks, and
Readkit-specific questions are coming - there are things about that
app I don't get, but that's another email. :)

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Re: RSS syncing with the Newsify iOS app?

[Brian Fischler]

Alex,

There are only two sync options in Newsify both I believe free, Feedly and 
Newsify. If you are looking to sync with Read Kit, use Feedly, and you can sync 
all of your subscriptions through Feedly in both Read Kit and Newsify.
On Jan 20, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I recently started using Newsify on iOS. I noticed it has a couple
> different sync options, and I'm wondering which I should do? I want it
> to be free, and I want it to sync with the rss reader I have on the
> Mac, Readkit. What's the best way to do this? Thanks, and
> Readkit-specific questions are coming - there are things about that
> app I don't get, but that's another email. :)
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Re: Using pages, templates.

[Nicholas Parsons]

HI Jürgen,
To add to Anne's explanation, to delete or rename templates from the templates 
chooser (i.e. the dialog that appears when you press command-n to open a new 
document) just navigate to it, bring the mouse and do a physical control-click 
with a TrackPad or similar.
Cheers,
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Re: Using pages, templates.

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Matt,
Yes, they cost. I believe it is 25 Euros per unit. For details you're best to 
contact Anne, who is also on this list. I'm not sure that I should be giving 
out her email address here, but if you just Google cecimac pages training 
you'll find all you need to know.
Cheers,
Nic

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> Hey Nick.
> Do these courses cost? If so, how much?
> 
> Matt Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:19 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
>> The rectangular items are usually just items to help the layout. Some are 
>> also for titles or addresses and the like. The key thing is to interact with 
>> the relevant text area before you can type over the place holder text. You 
>> Must also use the arrow keys with QuickNav turned off in order to select the 
>> place holder text before typing over it.
>> 
>> Without knowing the exact template you're using it's hard to give more 
>> specific information than that. If you want someone to talk you through it 
>> as you're using the template I recommend taking one of Anne and Archie's 
>> Pages courses.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Re: Severe Gmail issues in Mavericks Still

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi Bryan,

First thing, about how many messages altogether do you have in gMail? Meaning 
in your All Mail folder. If it's in the tens of thousands, or hundreds of 
thousands, then I think I know what the problem is.

Second, is your All Mail folder enabled for IMAP? It should be.

I by no means an expert on this issue—I don't think anybody is. There seems to 
be lots of different issues and neither Apple or much of the tech community 
seems to really know or agree on what's going on. But what I think is happening 
is that Mavericks Mail has to re-download and reconfigure every message you 
have in gMail. Most of us have plenty of messages, easily in the tens of 
thousands, and some people even have hundreds of thousands. So when you launch 
Mail after recently installing Mavericks, if you show the activity window with 
command-option-0, you'll notice that Mail is busy accessing the gMail server 
and checking and downloading all your messages. Even for a reasonably small 
account this can take a long time. I left my Mac online with Mail running but 
nothing else for a couple of days. This seemed to allow it to get up and 
running. So I'd suggest you close every application and stop as many other 
online services as you can from operating, then just open Mail and leave your 
Mac online for a good long time. Meaning at least 24 hours. Just leave it, and 
don't do anything else with it, certainly not with Mail. Configure your energy 
preferences so your Mac doesn't go to sleep. Check the Mail activity every few 
hours to check that it's making progress. If it seems to have frozen, quit it 
and re-launch.

Best of luck,
Nic

On 21 Jan 2014, at 12:04 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> Would love any advice from those of you not having any problems with Gmail 
> and Macmail. After  a day and a half of everything working fine, I had my 
> busy busy problems again. I called Apple and spoke to their VoiceOver people 
> and they kept insisting that my problem wasn’t a gmail and mac mail problem. 
> I connected via remote session with Apple, and the specialist was claiming my 
> issue was caused by my other mail account from go daddy. It took us a good 
> hour to check settings, and mail was constantly caught in a busy loop, after 
> that did nothing, I did a system repair which Apple felt would fix the mail 
> busy issue. I am not going to go in to the bad set of instructions that Apple 
> gave me for a VoiceOVer user to do a repair. So the repair finally finishes 
> and as soon as I launch mail, busy busy busy. I decided to delete my gmail 
> account from mail to see if mail worked with just my go daddy account, and 
> sure enough mail worked fine, so bingo it is definitely a gmail problem. What 
> angers me so much is Apple’s claim that the fix they released in December 
> fixed the gmail and mac mail issue. The whole reason I held off upgrading to 
> Mavericks was because of the gmail issue. Not sure how they can claim the 
> issue is fixed when it is obviously gmail causing my problem.
> 
> I do have a ton of email in gmail that I keep saved in folders, but this was 
> never an issue with gmail and Lion. Does anyone have any suggestions? I 
> deleted all my trash in mac mail, and this did nothing either. Anyone who has 
> gone through something like this and figured out a fix would love to hear it.
> 
> Thanks for listening.
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Numbers | Merging Cells and Text Boxes

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi all,

I'm wanting to create a kind of general heading for a table in the latest 
version of Numbers. Not a specific row or column heading, but a general kind of 
heading. In Excell I used to do this by merging the cells in the top row and 
putting the heading in there. This, however, doesn't seem to work in Numbers.

Firstly, even though I merge two cells, A1 and B1, for example, the content 
only appears in A1 and B1 appears to VoiceOver as an empty cell. Does anyone 
know if there is any way to change this behaviour?

Second, can text boxes be used easily for this purpose (i.e. creating a 
heading) and do they work well for VoiceOver?

Thanks,
Nic

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How to Delete a Table in Numbers

[Nicholas Parsons]

Hi all,

How do you delete a table in Numbers?

Thanks,
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Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

Christina, i will give you 2 examples, and i am sure you will have no
problems in understanding them both.
1 is W E, it costs money, and lets be brutally honest, if you are
blind money usually is not exactly something you are swimming in.
It  is a downside, i am not going too say much about  W E, because i
don't like it, it is against my way of seeing things.
2, NVDA  is open source, it means that the code is free if i am right.
as i write this i am actually not sure if it is truly fully free too
change code on, but i do believe so.
On one hand we have a  closed sourced screenreader, and that  is all
good as far as that goes, that is of course included its up and
downsides.
I am personally suspecting the reason they have paired up with
Microsoft is that they want it out too more users for a lower cost for
the end user.
I can be wrong, but seldom am.
Personally i use a old copy of  xp, use it for scanning  when that is
needed. It means that i get OSX as my main system, with windows on the
top of that .
I think overall what cost me most was the mac book air, and a license
for vmware fusion.
So if i should go out and buy one more program it would simply not
work for me financially.
And that is here open source and free code comes into space:)


Sandi


On 1/20/14, Christina C.  wrote:
> I do not understand all of the ins and outs of this but overall it appears
> to be a positive thing for blind and visually impaired as well as for others
> with  various disabilities and challenges requiring adaptive software and
> equipment. I did crack up at the line about being leaders. LOL! They are
> behind the ball if you ask me. I love apple and my mac and that is where my
> loyalties are at this point. I do think this opens doors and that can always
> be a good thing. Maybe this will benefit me in some way in the future
> especially since I’d like the ability to use a robust OCR  scanning software
> with a camera instead of a traditional scanner. Maybe one day I will
> consider putting windows on my computer with  boot camp or a virtual
> environment. So, for me this topic is important to discuss even though I am
> a mac user.
>
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Re: Annoying issue with sending message to certain contacts under iOS7

[Mike Busboom]

No, I haven't reported it yet and hadn't planned to do so until I had heard 
feedback from the list.  I didn't rule out that I was doing something 
fundamentally wrong, though I never had this problem in earlier OS versions.  I 
will report this to the accessibility group but not to anywhere else within 
Apple  since none of my non-disabled friends with whom I have spoken has ever 
encountered this issue, at least not to my knowledge.

Mike

On 20,Jan,2014, at 8:08 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> This same thing happens to me also.  I sort of thought I was the only one or 
> else that I had not entered information correctly.  I assume you already 
> reported this to Apple?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
>> Hello listers,
>> 
>> Ever since installing iOS7, I have had extreme difficulties in sending text 
>> messages to recipients in my contacts that have more than one number listed 
>> there.
>> 
>> Whenever I initiate a message and try to send it to a contact's mobile 
>> phone, the message is always sent to the landline phone instead.  Since this 
>> isn't possible, I get a message from my phone company telling me that a text 
>> message can't be sent to a landline phone.  There is absolutely no doubt in 
>> my mind that I am clicking on the recipient's mobile phone.  If a person 
>> sends me a message, and I simply reply, the message is properly sent to the 
>> recipient's cell phone; I just can't currently start a new message thread to 
>> anyone in my contact list unless that contact only has a cell phone number 
>> listed.  I suppose I could go through all of my contacts and erase any 
>> landline numbers there, but I honestly believe that there is a far better 
>> solution.
>> 
>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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