Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[David Taylor]

Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the HTML 
area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that the label 
is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is pressed. If you 
are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going to have to try 
things and explore to see results, so I would get into the habit of doing so, 
rather than thinking people can teach everything, since it changes so often. 
I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts having the website display 
completely differently to each other, so giving precise instruction is really 
not possible in a lot of situations.

Cheers
Dave

On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
> TIA,
> Donna
> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
>> 
>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but see 
>>> no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
>>> interact".
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: dashboard and email questions

[Piotr Machacz]

if you mean to launch those apps, that function is handled by the dock. You can 
press vo-d or ctrl-f3 to go there. It will show you all the apps added to it, 
as well as any apps that are running (those will be indicated with VO saying 
“open” at the end of their name). To quickly find and launch an app on the 
dock, after you go to it you can just type the first few letters of the app 
name and hit enter when you find it. To add something to the dock, you can 
press command-ctrl-shift-T on whatever you want to add in the finder.
On 01 Jan 2014, at 09:08 pm, Jessica D  wrote:

> is it possible to put widgets in dashboard for applications i use daily or 
> very frequently?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:16 PM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:
>> 
>> The dashboard is a place on the screen where you can put widgets to show 
>> information or quickly perform tasks.  You have things like weather, world 
>> clock, a calculator, translator, etc. You can also put any webpage into the 
>> dashboard as a widget, or find new ones online.You can pool it up with F12, 
>> and then close it with escape. To add a widget to it, you press vo-F2 twice, 
>> and to remove one, you press VO-escape. For your second question, I’m not 
>> sure what your problem is. When you’re done reading a message, press vo-j to 
>> go back to the message table and you can just keep reading. Just remember 
>> that he messages table is  a tree and conversations are at first collapsed, 
>> so you need to press right arrow to expand one, and then you can down arrow 
>> into it to read any messages.
>>> On 31 Dec 2013, at 05:22 pm, Regina Alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Newby question again about the Mini. What is the dashboard and how can I 
>>> get to it? Also, how can I start a new email, and how can I read a 
>>> conversation fully? It seems to delete the whole conversation after I use 
>>> VO J and want to go back to read the rest of the conversation. That's 
>>> enough for now, and thanks in advance for your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
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Can I listen to the BBC from my Apple TV

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

Just installed a TV and can’t find the BBC radio stations. It appears great to 
have so much choice but how do you find what you want to listen to?

I selected radio and was presented with a whole list of music categories and 
just got lost. Is there a TV podcast on AppleVis?

Thanks.

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Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[Donna Goodin]

David,

First, thank you for answering my question.  Second, your point about 
exploration is a valid one, and I assure you that I do lots of exploration 
before "thinking people to teach everything"  as you put it.  However, given 
that VO doesn't even identify that toggle as a button, I don't think my 
question was unreasonable.
Best,
Donna 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that the 
> label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since it 
> changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts having 
> the website display completely differently to each other, so giving precise 
> instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but see 
 no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
 interact".
 TIA,
 Donna
 
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Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[David Taylor]

Hi,

No, i wasn't implying it was unreasonable, but you will get very many instances 
where things happen away from where VO is focussed, in FB and many other places.

Cheers
Dave

On 2 Jan 2014, at 13:38, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> David,
> 
> First, thank you for answering my question.  Second, your point about 
> exploration is a valid one, and I assure you that I do lots of exploration 
> before "thinking people to teach everything"  as you put it.  However, given 
> that VO doesn't even identify that toggle as a button, I don't think my 
> question was unreasonable.
> Best,
> Donna 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
>> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that 
>> the label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
>> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
>> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
>> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since 
>> it changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts 
>> having the website display completely differently to each other, so giving 
>> precise instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
 You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
 
 On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but 
> see no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
> interact".
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: transferring first tivo show

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to the 
tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The desktop 
software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer shows. It's fine 
on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore is to transfer shows 
from Tivo to Computer for storage.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey,
> 
> I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
> Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
> However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
> app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and manage 
> my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few hiccups it works 
> great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. Also, with the latest 
> update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest boxes you can watch any of 
> your shows as long as you are on a WiFi network, you no longer have to be on 
> your own network, as I tested it out on my neighbors, and it works great. 
> Considering how inaccessible almost every DVR is, Tivo has worked fantastic 
> for me, and I would recommend it to anyone, of course, it is more expensive 
> than going with your cable DVR, but the benefits and accessibility make it 
> worth it.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A lot 
>> of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 rows. 
>> All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each row, went 
>> across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was successful. In the 
>> second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo box. Pressing command j 
>> brings up a view option that looks like iTunes where you can select 
>> different options such as title description, channel, etc. I checked all but 
>> the titles of the shows do not show up in the list, just the channel, 
>> description, file size, and duration. You also see a section for total 
>> shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news is I just took a peak in the 
>> folder where the show is transferring, and the show title is there. I'll 
>> have to see if I can find a pair of eyes to describe the first table. This 
>> app isn't for the novas Mac or VO user.
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find my phone?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

Has anyone here ever had to use the find my phone when they’ve lost their 
Iphone?  IF so, is it accessible?  No. I didn’t lose mine, but, just wanted to 
know.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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web questions and a manual?

[Regina Alvarado]

Hi: 
I have my Mini set to tab in Safari so I can find links with tab key. How do I 
get to top and bottom of a web page? Is there a way to find text as in jaws? Is 
there a good basic manual for a complete beginner on Mac?



reggie and Allegra

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Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi David,

Yeah, I do realize that. :)
Best,
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:11 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, i wasn't implying it was unreasonable, but you will get very many 
> instances where things happen away from where VO is focussed, in FB and many 
> other places.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 2 Jan 2014, at 13:38, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> 
>> First, thank you for answering my question.  Second, your point about 
>> exploration is a valid one, and I assure you that I do lots of exploration 
>> before "thinking people to teach everything"  as you put it.  However, given 
>> that VO doesn't even identify that toggle as a button, I don't think my 
>> question was unreasonable.
>> Best,
>> Donna 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
>>> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that 
>>> the label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
>>> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
>>> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
>>> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since 
>>> it changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts 
>>> having the website display completely differently to each other, so giving 
>>> precise instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
 TIA,
 Donna
 On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
 
> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
> 
> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but 
>> see no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
>> interact".
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: find my phone?

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

It's accessible. I haven't ever lost my phone but when I download the Mac to my 
I phone, all the buttons are accessible.

Kawal.

> On 2 Jan 2014, at 02:15 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone here ever had to use the find my phone when they’ve lost their 
> Iphone?  IF so, is it accessible?  No. I didn’t lose mine, but, just wanted 
> to know.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
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> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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Re: web questions and a manual?

[Phil Halton]

Your best friend for learning all about the Mac and VoiceOver is the help 
system. Press control option H. that brings up the VO help menu. I think that 
the getting started guide at the bottom of the list is the most helpful source 
for understanding VoiceOver and how to use it in Mac apps like safari etc.
The appendices have tables of VO keyboard commands - they are laid out quite 
logically and its a helpful learning tool.
All your basic  questions can be answered by taking time to carefully read the 
guide.

On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Hi: 
> I have my Mini set to tab in Safari so I can find links with tab key. How do 
> I get to top and bottom of a web page? Is there a way to find text as in 
> jaws? Is there a good basic manual for a complete beginner on Mac?
> 
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How to Convert Daisy books

[Daniel Hawkins]

Hello Listers,

Since I listen to my Talking Book a lot, I been wanting to put it on a iPod 
shuffle. I have a Macbook and have been doing research on Daisy Talking Book 
and found Orearia for the Mac so I can listen on the Mac. however I can’t seem 
to figure out how to load a book on.

Now for converting DTB to mp3 or to iTunes, I found DTB to iTunes. However 
after spending three days trying to figure out how to load a book, I found out 
that you first need to decrypt the file using DTBmaker. Now I found the link 
for that, but the website is not there.

Does anyone know a way to upload Talking Books to a non IOS device. Yes I know 
about BARD Mobil, and I’m am tired of hearing you got a message or touching the 
screen since it can’t go into lock screen.

Any info on this I will find very very helpful.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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can't find Mac to Iphone

[Ray Foret Jr]

To the person who answered me about finding an Iphone using my Mac, did you say 
the app was called “Mac to Iphone”?  Can’t seem to find it.


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Re: can't find Mac to Iphone

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Oh sorry. I mean to say Find my I phone app which you down load from the app 
store.

> On 2 Jan 2014, at 03:58 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> To the person who answered me about finding an Iphone using my Mac, did you 
> say the app was called “Mac to Iphone”?  Can’t seem to find it.
> 
> 
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Re: where the insert key?

[ramy moustafa]

i found the sharpkeys.
thanks so much 

Ramy moustafa saber
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faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> On the same note how do I activate the number pad on the laptop keyboard 
> layout?
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:19 PM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
>> 
>> So it sounds like you have an extended keyboard. In that case, there is an 
>> insert key in the numbers keypad. Several folks on this list also have had 
>> success with a key remapping service like sharp keys.
>> 
>> Do a search for sharp keys and then install it on your Windows environment.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I need to use my mac keyboard on my mac with jaws, but can not find the 
>>> insert key, they put the fn instead, so how can I find the insert key to 
>>> use jaws or even NVDA?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: find my phone?

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I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works great and 
it is accessible.

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Re: find my phone?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Did you use the web interfase at:

www.icloud.com
or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems to 
me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.


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Re: where the insert key?

[Eric Caron]

Hi Ramy,

Another way to assign a insert key for the VM Fusion is to use 
keyremap4macbook along with pckeyboardhack. This is set up on the mac side and 
I found it worked better for me then Sharp keys.


Eric Caron 
 

On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:20 AM, ramy moustafa  wrote:

> i found the sharpkeys.
> thanks so much 
> 
> Ramy moustafa saber
> Musicc instructor at:
> faculty of musical education
> music arranger and sound engineer
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:10 AM, Tom Moore  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> On the same note how do I activate the number pad on the laptop keyboard 
>> layout?
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 6:19 PM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
>> 
>>> So it sounds like you have an extended keyboard. In that case, there is an 
>>> insert key in the numbers keypad. Several folks on this list also have had 
>>> success with a key remapping service like sharp keys.
>>> 
>>> Do a search for sharp keys and then install it on your Windows environment.
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Ramy Moustafa  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all:
 
 
 I need to use my mac keyboard on my mac with jaws, but can not find the 
 insert key, they put the fn instead, so how can I find the insert key to 
 use jaws or even NVDA?
 
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Re: find my phone?

[Donna Goodin]

Ray,  

I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store for 
the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the iCloud 
interface is now the only option?
Best,
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Did you use the web interfase at:
> 
> www.icloud.com
> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems 
> to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
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>> and it is accessible.
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Re: find my phone?

[Chris Blouch]

Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the 
first item.


CB

On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Ray,

I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store for 
the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the iCloud 
interface is now the only option?
Best,
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:


Did you use the web interfase at:

www.icloud.com
or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems to 
me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:


I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works great and 
it is accessible.

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Re: find my phone?

[Donna Goodin]

Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
Donna
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> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
> item.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Ray,
>> 
>> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
>> for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
>> iCloud interface is now the only option?
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>>> 
>>> www.icloud.com
>>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>>> 
 I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
 great and it is accessible.
 
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Re: find my phone?

[Donna Goodin]

Yep, that did it.  Odd, since it's for the Mac, I would have expected it to be 
in the app store.  thanks, Ray.
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
>>> item.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Ray,
 
 I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
 for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
 iCloud interface is now the only option?
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> Did you use the web interfase at:
> 
> www.icloud.com
> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
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Re: How to Convert Daisy books

[David Chittenden]

Unfortunately, you cannot do what you are requesting. All DTB books are copy 
protected. This means, they can only play in NLS approved players which have 
been unlocked, or in the BARD Mobile app which you have signed in on and your 
credentials have been verified by NLS.

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> On 3 Jan 2014, at 4:31, Daniel Hawkins  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Since I listen to my Talking Book a lot, I been wanting to put it on a iPod 
> shuffle. I have a Macbook and have been doing research on Daisy Talking Book 
> and found Orearia for the Mac so I can listen on the Mac. however I can’t 
> seem to figure out how to load a book on.
> 
> Now for converting DTB to mp3 or to iTunes, I found DTB to iTunes. However 
> after spending three days trying to figure out how to load a book, I found 
> out that you first need to decrypt the file using DTBmaker. Now I found the 
> link for that, but the website is not there.
> 
> Does anyone know a way to upload Talking Books to a non IOS device. Yes I 
> know about BARD Mobil, and I’m am tired of hearing you got a message or 
> touching the screen since it can’t go into lock screen.
> 
> Any info on this I will find very very helpful.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: find my phone?

[Ray Foret Jr]

I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.


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On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
>> item.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> Ray,
>>> 
>>> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
>>> for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
>>> iCloud interface is now the only option?
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Did you use the web interfase at:
 
 www.icloud.com
 or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
 Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
 
 
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> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
> great and it is accessible.
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Re: find my phone?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Thing is, I only find the version of Find my phone that you install on the 
Iphone itself.  There seems to be no version to install on the Mac.  I guess 
maybe that if you want to use your Mac to find your Iphone, you’d need to 
install Find My Phone on the phone and then sign in at:

www.icloud.com
and from there, you can actually see your devices.  The map data seems not to 
be accessible to us, but, if you tab past that, you can see buttons and 
controls.  I guess that if you want to find an Iphone, you would press VO+space 
on the device you want to find and then tab past the inaccessible map data and 
there are the controls.


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On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Yep, that did it.  Odd, since it's for the Mac, I would have expected it to 
> be in the app store.  thanks, Ray.
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the 
 first item.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app 
> store for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering 
> if the iCloud interface is now the only option?
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>> 
>> www.icloud.com
>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
>>> great and it is accessible.
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Re: find my phone?

[Chris Blouch]

Ahh, that's the bit of confusion. You are right, there is no "Find My 
Phone" app or the like for the Mac. That's all in the icloud web page. I 
was also searching the iTunes store, not the Mac App Store.


CB

On 1/2/14 12:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Thing is, I only find the version of Find my phone that you install on the 
Iphone itself.  There seems to be no version to install on the Mac.  I guess 
maybe that if you want to use your Mac to find your Iphone, you’d need to 
install Find My Phone on the phone and then sign in at:

www.icloud.com
and from there, you can actually see your devices.  The map data seems not to 
be accessible to us, but, if you tab past that, you can see buttons and 
controls.  I guess that if you want to find an Iphone, you would press VO+space 
on the device you want to find and then tab past the inaccessible map data and 
there are the controls.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:


Yep, that did it.  Odd, since it's for the Mac, I would have expected it to be 
in the app store.  thanks, Ray.
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:


I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:


Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
item.

CB

On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

Ray,

I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store for 
the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the iCloud 
interface is now the only option?
Best,
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:


Did you use the web interfase at:

www.icloud.com
or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems to 
me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.


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On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:


I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works great and 
it is accessible.

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Re: some questions about harddrive cloning please help kind regards trey.

[Chris Blouch]

While I'm not familiar with the particulars of how Disk Utility does it, 
most drives have a reserve of extra blocks that can be substituted if a 
bad spot develops. So by writing something to every block ahead of time, 
any bad blocks will get noticed and replaced with a spare. I would think 
that would already have happened at the factory or on the fly by the 
controller on the drive, but it can't hurt. On a large drive it could 
take quite a wile to zero out the empty space.


CB

On 12/30/13 6:51 PM, trahern culver wrote:

so what does it mean if a block is skipped? does it mean that things are not 
copied between hard rives?

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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Chris Blouch]

Right. The $97 one I got from Amazon was an original sealed in a package 
so it seems to have been legit. At least it installed in VMWare with no 
issues.


CB

On 12/29/13 12:34 AM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

I don’t want to go digging around to find documentation for why you don’t have 
to have a system builder version.  It’s everywhere in the Apple Bootcamp 
documentation.
It is absolutely not necessary.

Also, the reason I recommended calling is exactly for the reasons you mention.  
It is hard to find.  I encountered all the same with regard to only finding 
upgrades on the online store.

If you want to go with a system builder version fromAmazon, go for it!  I had 
to purchase two Windows versions recently for two different Macbook Airs and 
one of those I went with was a full version of Windows via eBay for $39 I 
think.  But I did have to resort to Microsoft for the other one.  And you run 
the risk from purchasing from an individual on eBay that the key will be sold 
to multiple individuals and become problematic after it is activated too many 
times.

You can call the Microsoft Store if you want a full version of Windows 8 for a 
somewhat reasonable price, $119 in my case, that you can be assured is a viable 
copy of Windows without paying the Microsoft price of $199 for the system 
builder version last time I checked.







On Dec 28, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were upgrades. 
Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other version. I think 
I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it in a virtual machine 
(or on a machine that never had Windows before) you had to buy the system 
builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
Bill
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Re: installing Bootcamp

[Chris Blouch]

I was doing this for somebody else to run their QuickBooks on so I 
wanted to make sure everything was legit. I didn't know about the 
upgrade installer trick but it turned out to be slightly cheaper getting 
a full version off Amazon than an upgrade directly from Microsoft. 
Anyway, it's all working now.


CB

On 12/30/13 9:12 AM, Bill Holton wrote:

You can use the upgrade version.  The way to do it, when you first install, 
skip the activation step.  You will then have an unregistered version of 
Windows on your computer.  Then, insert your upgrade disk again and run the 
setup .exe.  This is where you will do the  Windows upgrade.   You already have 
a version of Windows on your machine, and this time you can enter your license 
number and all will be fine.  MS did this so you could actually install a clean 
copy of Windows.


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When I was poking around the Windows store all I could find were
upgrades. Either Windows 8.1 from Windows 7 or Windows 8 from any other
version. I think I found in one of the FAQs that if you wanted to run it
in a virtual machine (or on a machine that never had Windows before) you
had to buy the system builder version. I found the 8.1 System Builder
for $97 on Amazon.

CB

On 12/28/13 10:33 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

All you need is a full version of Windows that is not an upgrade version. The 
system builder version is not necessary and costs a lot more.

On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

What's wrong with the system builder flavor of Windows. I thought that's what 
you needed if you're not upgrading from another version of Windows.

CB

On 12/28/13 7:45 PM, Geoff Stephens wrote:

You can always just call the store if you can’t find out how to get the ISO 
online.  But don’t let them sell you a system builder version of Windows.  They 
might try to do that.  You can purchase the Windows 8 ISO and they will e-mail 
you a key and a download link.

I don’t have the phone number handy right now.
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:

Does Microsoft offer the ability to download the ISO along with a code rather 
than a CD, and if so, what's the link to purchase and download said ISO?

On 12/28/2013 4:51 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Yu can download an ISO image, and the boot camp set up utility will create a 
bootable flash drive that is used for the install.
On Dec 27, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Byron J. Lee  wrote:


I actually have a question regarding installing Windows 7 on a Macbook Air. How 
do you install Win7 if you don't have a CD player? Can you download a file from 
Microsoft? Is there a step-by-step guide on doing it without a CD?

On 12/27/2013 1:14 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.
I know you cannot bootcamp a Mac to install Windows 7 without sighted help.  
But what about Windows 8?  Canyou get Narrator to start up at installation?  
Also, has anyone tried using the talking Windows 7 installer to Bootcamp their 
Mac?  Thanks much.
Bill
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Re: virtualization solutions

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Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps 
which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you 
launch one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. 
Most people use them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that 
normally will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only 
as accessible as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of course 
there is some overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that they 
would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't an issue. 
For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running Office, and 
you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to Windows to write 
to the disk but really the Windows code would be writing to what seems 
like a disk drive which is actually the virtual machine emulator which 
writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of redirection makes everything 
work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible 
with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from the terminal by typing 
commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few bucks (usually 
about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not free and 
is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while 
virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine 
app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and 
such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will 
be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell 
box. If you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp 
which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the 
hardware. I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the 
current MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is 
you have to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and 
switching from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual machines 
they are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for example, 
copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. Things 
are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard drive is 
just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows virus that 
formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
drive, not your entire Mac drive.


CB

On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. 
That’s why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.


I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?

My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.

Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
virtual app?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote:


Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. 
Windows is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running 
linux/bsd instances.

On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that 
isn't is called parallels.


Sent from my IPhone


On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
> wrote:



Hello all,

I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.

I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?

From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs 
is not accessible? Or is there an solution?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler 
mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com>> wrote:



 thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb 
ram, so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test 
my libraries and that on BSD as well.

HTH:
On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:

What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.


reggie and Allegra

On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce > wrote:


Hello,

https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html

http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html

http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/

Gena
On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall > wrote:


That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never 
able to find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started 
with the command line interface to Virtualb

Re: find my phone?

[Jessica Moss]

I think you can find it on the via app and it should take you to the app store 
to download it; I'll check that out and get back to you.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Ray,  
> 
> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
> for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
> iCloud interface is now the only option?
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>> 
>> www.icloud.com
>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems 
>> to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works great 
>>> and it is accessible.
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Re: find my phone?

[Jessica Moss]

I searched for it throught the Via App, clicked the download option, and it's 
still there on my end.  You might want to give that a try if you don't have the 
via app..
  A friend recommended that to me a year or 2 ago, and I found a load of stuff 
through that that I'd never heard of before and some of it I've found really 
useful; found a lot of fun games through it as well.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Ray,  
> 
> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
> for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
> iCloud interface is now the only option?
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>> 
>> www.icloud.com
>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  Seems 
>> to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works great 
>>> and it is accessible.
>>> 
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Re: virtualization solutions

[Regina Alvarado]

So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to have a 
virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do work fine on Mac, 
Right?
 


reggie and Allegra

On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use them 
to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a generic 
PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS normally would 
be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so things won't run 100% 
the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't 
an issue. For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running Office, and 
you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to Windows to write to the 
disk but really the Windows code would be writing to what seems like a disk 
drive which is actually the virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on  
   OSX. That little bit of redirection makes everything work but costs some 
CPU. VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you 
can control it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible 
as is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special 
running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can ignore 
it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run 
under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the 
virtual machine app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the 
virtual PC and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for 
instance, will be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real 
Dell box. If you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp 
which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. 
I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make 
a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to 
boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other 
requires a reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use 
and quit. So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a 
Windows app or vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the 
virtual machine hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some 
nasty Windows virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that 
virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive.

CB

> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s why 
> I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
> 
> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
> 
> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
> 
> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these virtual 
> app?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows is 
>> the most widely used, but it's also useful for running 
>> linux/bsd instances.
>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
>>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
>>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
>>> called parallels.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my IPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
 
 I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
 
 From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is not 
 accessible? Or is there an solution?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  
> wrote:
> 
>  thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization 
> solution. I have 16 gb ram, so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box 
> so I could test my libraries and that on BSD 
> as well.
> HTH:
>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM

Re: virtualization solutions

[Chris Blouch]

Let the unix variant geek wars begin! So the terminal or shell is where 
you type commands to be processed by the unix side of OSX. OSX is 
actually based on the Mach Kernel and NextStep, which was bought when 
Apple acquired Next and brought Steve Jobs back to the helm. Next Step 
incorporates some parts of FreeBSD and NetBSD. For those who develop Mac 
apps, many of the methods and data objects still start with NS (such as 
NSTableView or NSWindow) which is from the NextStep lineage. Anyway, 
there are a jillion variants of Unix and OSX has their own take on how 
things are done. If you are deploying to BSD, Linux, Solaris, Xenix, AIX 
or something else it's always best to test on whatever platform your 
customer uses. I suspect OSX is the most deployed commercial unix 
variant out there while Linux is probably the largest free one.


CB

On 12/29/13 12:56 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
No, the mac terminal isn't BSD. It has bits and pieces of BSD, but it 
is different. I wish for my libraries to compile successfully on BSD, 
not the cobbled mess OSX has put together.

On 12/29/2013 11:18 AM, - wrote:


Someone asked:

"I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for vmware 
wany fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac."


MMe:

Bsd is for all practical purposes the unix os under the hood for a 
mac. It is terminal. Many bsd apps will run as is andany that don't 
almost any one would want can be had in macports or homebrew.


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Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Dave,

Have you figured out how to get all of your News Feed to show up? I thought I 
had found the toggle but pressing it does nothing, so in menu tab I have giant 
time gaps between posts on my news feed.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that the 
> label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since it 
> changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts having 
> the website display completely differently to each other, so giving precise 
> instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
>>> 
>>> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but see 
 no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
 interact".
 TIA,
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Re: virtualization solutions

[Daniel Hawkins]

Chris,

Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for pointing 
out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try that out wen 
I want to learn Windows 8.

Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not 
> free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only 
> while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
> Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app 
> itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As 
> previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
> accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must 
> have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac 
> into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried 
> this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice 
> high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in 
> either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a 
> reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. 
> So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or 
> vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine 
> hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
> virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
> drive, not your entire Mac drive.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>> 
>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>> 
>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>> virtual app?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
>>> instances.
>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
 Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
 called parallels.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
> 
> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
> 
> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is 
> not accessible? Or is there an solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  
> wrote:
> 
>>  thanks a ton for thes

Re: virtualization solutions

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Chris, 

I have a few questions for you using VMWare. 

1. I have a OEM copy of 8.0 (not professional). Will this work with VMWare? Its 
never been opened.
2.  Can VMWare be placed on an external HD that has been partition to handle 
both the Mac/PC?
3. Do you need to allocate RAM and SSD HD space on my MBA? This is a MBA 2013 
machine and I have 8GB RAM and 512 GB SSD storage. 
 
On  it.

The items that I am looking to place in a virtual environment include: Office 
2010, Duxbury, OpenBook or Kurzweil (not both), and a financial program called 
Money Talk from APH in order to print my business checks. Any suggestions on 
how to configure what may be needed to run these items would be terrific. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen Jan 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not 
> free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only 
> while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
> Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app 
> itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As 
> previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
> accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must 
> have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac 
> into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried 
> this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice 
> high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in 
> either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a 
> reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. 
> So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or 
> vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine 
> hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
> virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
> drive, not your entire Mac drive.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>> 
>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>> 
>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>> virtual app?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
>>> instances.
>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
 Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
 called parallels.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
> 
> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
> 
> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is 
> not accessible? Or is there an solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD

Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[David Taylor]

Hi,

That did work when I did it on my account, but I couldn't make it work on 
somebody else's account when I had access to it for a reason a few months ago. 
I can't get most of the menus to work in any version of FB at the moment. Don't 
you just wish they would fix accessibility in all areas of the site!

Cheers
Dave

On 2 Jan 2014, at 20:08, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Dave,
> 
> Have you figured out how to get all of your News Feed to show up? I thought I 
> had found the toggle but pressing it does nothing, so in menu tab I have 
> giant time gaps between posts on my news feed.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
>> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that 
>> the label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
>> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
>> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
>> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since 
>> it changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts 
>> having the website display completely differently to each other, so giving 
>> precise instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
 You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
 
 On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but 
> see no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
> interact".
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
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Re: virtualization solutions

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Daniel,
If you use fusion, you won’t need sighted assistance.  You can either use a 
physical dvd if you have one or an iso file.

things can get hairy after the installation of windows before you get any 
speech loaded, though.  This is my experience, anyway.  I have an installation 
of win 7 right now and I can’t get past the darn log in screen using narrater, 
but this is my only choice  til I can get the desk top visible.
Anyway, good luck!
Caitlyn

On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
> access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for 
> pointing out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try 
> that out wen I want to learn Windows 8.
> 
> Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
> blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
>> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
>> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
>> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
>> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
>> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
>> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
>> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
>> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
>> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
>> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
>> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
>> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
>> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
>> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
>> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is 
>> not free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac 
>> only while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare 
>> Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual 
>> machine app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC 
>> and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will 
>> be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If 
>> you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots 
>> your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I 
>> haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make 
>> a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to 
>> boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other 
>> requires a reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, 
>> use and quit. So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a 
>> Windows app or vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the 
>> virtual machine hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got 
>> some nasty Windows virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch 
>> is that virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>>> 
>>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>>> 
>>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>>> virtual app?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>>> 
 Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
 is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
 instances.
 On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
> called parallels.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>>>

Re: virtualization solutions

[Daniel Hawkins]

Really?! How did you pull that off installing Windows with no sighted 
assistance? Is there a step by step directions for a blind user that can 
install Windows? I searched everywhere on Google, and I can’t find anything. Or 
I’m just not looking at the right place.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Daniel,
> If you use fusion, you won’t need sighted assistance.  You can either use a 
> physical dvd if you have one or an iso file.
> 
> things can get hairy after the installation of windows before you get any 
> speech loaded, though.  This is my experience, anyway.  I have an 
> installation of win 7 right now and I can’t get past the darn log in screen 
> using narrater, but this is my only choice  til I can get the desk top 
> visible.
> Anyway, good luck!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> Thanks for that info. I was told when I got my Mac that Virtual box was not 
>> access able, so that why I used Bootcamp to dual boot. But thanks for 
>> pointing out that Fusion is fully accessible. So maybe later on I will try 
>> that out wen I want to learn Windows 8.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to install Windows on their own if you are completely 
>> blind? I take it installation is same when you use a virtual box?
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps 
>>> which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch 
>>> one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most 
>>> people use them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally 
>>> will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible 
>>> as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some 
>>> overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated 
>>> hardware, but for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had 
>>> a virtual windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. 
>>> Office would pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the 
>>> Windows code would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is 
>>> actually the virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That 
>>> little bit of redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. 
>>> VirtualBox is free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can 
>>> control it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible 
>>> as is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special 
>>> running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can 
>>> ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare can 
>>> also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, 
>>> that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell how much memory to 
>>> give to the virtual PC and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under 
>>> VMWare, for instance, will be just as accessible (or not) as it would be 
>>> running on a real Dell box. If you must have every last bit of speed you 
>>> can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct 
>>> access to the hardware. I haven't tried this but reviews I've read said 
>>> that the current MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside 
>>> is you have to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' 
>>> and switching from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual 
>>> machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for 
>>> example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. 
>>> Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard drive 
>>> is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows virus that 
>>> formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard drive, 
>>> not your entire Mac drive.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
 Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
 why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
 
 I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
 
 My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
 
 Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
 virtual app?
 
 Thanks!
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
 2.3 Quad-core i7
 4GB DDR3
 500GB HDD
 
 Dual Boot:
 Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
 
 On

Re: virtualization solutions

[Eileen Misrahi]

Chris, 

I meant Duxbury as one of the programs that I would run on the virtual end of 
my Mac. I couldn't get out of the spell checker before sending my last post. 

Eileen 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not 
> free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only 
> while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
> Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app 
> itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As 
> previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
> accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must 
> have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac 
> into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried 
> this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice 
> high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in 
> either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a 
> reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. 
> So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or 
> vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine 
> hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
> virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
> drive, not your entire Mac drive.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>> 
>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>> 
>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>> virtual app?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
>>> instances.
>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
 Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
 Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
 called parallels.
 
 Sent from my IPhone
 
 
 On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
  wrote:
 
> Hello all,
> 
> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.
> 
> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?
> 
> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is 
> not accessible? Or is there an solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler  
> wrote:
> 
>>  thanks a ton for these  links, that's awesome.
>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, so 
>> I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my libraries 
>> and that on BSD as well.
>> HTH:
>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>

Re: virtualization solutions

[Chris Blouch]

If you need occasional access to some Windows-only app a virtual machine 
can be a nice way to do it. Of course, like a real Windows machine, 
you'll have to install Windows and your screen reader of choice. The 
only common complaint is mapping of the caps lock and insert keys. 
Apparently the Mac OS doesn't pass the caps lock through so if it is 
being used for something other than making capital letters you'll need 
to use another key combo. Likewise for those on laptops or using smaller 
external keyboards there isn't an insert key. Check the list archives 
for workarounds on both of those.


CB

On 1/2/14 2:55 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to 
have a virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do 
work fine on Mac, Right?



reggie and Allegra

On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch > wrote:


Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps 
which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you 
launch one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your 
bidding. Most people use them to load Windows on but you can load an 
OS that normally will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine 
is only as accessible as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of 
course there is some overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that 
they would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't an 
issue. For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running 
Office, and you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to 
Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code would be 
writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the virtual 
machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is 
free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control 
it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as 
is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special 
running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can 
ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare 
can also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say 
accessible, that means the virtual machine app itself where you tell 
how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As previously 
mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you 
must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots 
your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I 
haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current 
MacBooks make a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have 
to do some setup to boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching 
from one to the other requires a reboot. With virtual machines they 
are just an app you launch, use and quit. So you can, for example, 
copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or vice versa. 
Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine hard 
drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that 
virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive.


CB

On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. 
That’s why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.


I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?

My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.

Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
virtual app?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote:


Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. 
Windows is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running 
linux/bsd instances.

On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and 
run Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one 
that isn't is called parallels.


Sent from my IPhone


On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins 
> wrote:



Hello all,

I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs.

I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows?

From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual 
programs is not accessible? Or is there an solution?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler 
mailto:ty...@tysdomai

Re: How to Convert Daisy books

[Daniel Hawkins]

David,

Shucks, thought I’d ask. There is an app called DTB to iTunes, and under the 
help info they said you can decrypt it by using DTBmaker, so I was wondering if 
anyone knows about it.

Guess I will just use my old 3gs as a decimated player.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:43 AM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> Unfortunately, you cannot do what you are requesting. All DTB books are copy 
> protected. This means, they can only play in NLS approved players which have 
> been unlocked, or in the BARD Mobile app which you have signed in on and your 
> credentials have been verified by NLS.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Jan 2014, at 4:31, Daniel Hawkins  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> 
>> Since I listen to my Talking Book a lot, I been wanting to put it on a iPod 
>> shuffle. I have a Macbook and have been doing research on Daisy Talking Book 
>> and found Orearia for the Mac so I can listen on the Mac. however I can’t 
>> seem to figure out how to load a book on.
>> 
>> Now for converting DTB to mp3 or to iTunes, I found DTB to iTunes. However 
>> after spending three days trying to figure out how to load a book, I found 
>> out that you first need to decrypt the file using DTBmaker. Now I found the 
>> link for that, but the website is not there.
>> 
>> Does anyone know a way to upload Talking Books to a non IOS device. Yes I 
>> know about BARD Mobil, and I’m am tired of hearing you got a message or 
>> touching the screen since it can’t go into lock screen.
>> 
>> Any info on this I will find very very helpful.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>> 
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Embossing from a Mac..

[Daniel Hawkins]

Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister have 
been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I jumped to a 
Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to Mac. One problem 
she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach her. So I did 
research allay, and I found out that you can print braille using Openoffice or 
libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.

Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not accessible 
on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two apps won’t run 
at all.

So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only solution 
is to still run Windows?

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
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Re: virtualization solutions

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Chris, 

This brings me to another question. Can you plug in an USB full Windows 
keyboard and have it work on the MBA? I have one lying around here and it would 
be nice to have a full keyboard when using the Window side in the virtual 
environment.

thanks. 

Eileen On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> If you need occasional access to some Windows-only app a virtual machine can 
> be a nice way to do it. Of course, like a real Windows machine, you'll have 
> to install Windows and your screen reader of choice. The only common 
> complaint is mapping of the caps lock and insert keys. Apparently the Mac OS 
> doesn't pass the caps lock through so if it is being used for something other 
> than making capital letters you'll need to use another key combo. Likewise 
> for those on laptops or using smaller external keyboards there isn't an 
> insert key. Check the list archives for workarounds on both of those.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/14 2:55 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to have a 
>> virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do work fine on 
>> Mac, Right?
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
>> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
>> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
>> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
>> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
>> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
>> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
>> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
>> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
>> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
>> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
>> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
>> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
>> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
>> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
>> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is 
>> not free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac 
>> only while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare 
>> Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual 
>> machine app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC 
>> and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will 
>> be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If 
>> you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots 
>> your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I 
>> haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make 
>> a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to 
>> boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other 
>> requires a reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, 
>> use and quit. So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a 
>> Windows app or vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the 
>> virtual machine hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got 
>> some nasty Windows virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch 
>> is that virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>>> 
>>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>>> 
>>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these 
>>> virtual app?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> Daniel Hawkins
>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>> 
>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>>> 4GB DDR3
>>> 500GB HDD
>>> 
>>> Dual Boot:
>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>>> 
 Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows 
 is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd 
 instances.
 On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote:
> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run 
> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is 
> called parallels.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
> 
> 
> On D

Re: Embossing from a Mac..

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Daniel, 

I'm not sure if this topic was recently discussed on this list or another. 
However, I did received a recent post on the Duxbury list serve stating that 
once 11.2 is released, creating and dedicating time for a Mac Duxbury version 
is high on the priority list. Who knows when it will be released, but there are 
plenty of us who are using a Mac and would really like to emboss with it. 
Hence, I am still running my Dell laptop using Win 7 to emboss. HTH. 

Eileen 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister have 
> been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I jumped to 
> a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to Mac. One 
> problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach her. So I 
> did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille using 
> Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
> 
> Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not accessible 
> on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two apps won’t 
> run at all.
> 
> So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only solution 
> is to still run Windows?
> 
> Thanks!
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
> 
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
> 
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
> 
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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

[Chris Blouch]

According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works 
with VO now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and 
couldn't actually work with the text in the document. That's been a 
while so maybe they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. 
Did you try them or was this info from a web page. Both are free so it 
costs nothing to give them a whirl.


CB

On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my 
sister have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. 
However I jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from 
Windows XP to Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was 
none  here to teach her. So I did research allay, and I found out that 
you can print braille using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 
extension.


Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those 
two apps won’t run at all.


So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
solution is to still run Windows?


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

[Daniel Hawkins]

Ok, thanks for letting me know on that. I have no experience with Duxbury, so i 
will pass that along to my sister.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
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500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
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On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi Daniel, 
> 
> I'm not sure if this topic was recently discussed on this list or another. 
> However, I did received a recent post on the Duxbury list serve stating that 
> once 11.2 is released, creating and dedicating time for a Mac Duxbury version 
> is high on the priority list. Who knows when it will be released, but there 
> are plenty of us who are using a Mac and would really like to emboss with it. 
> Hence, I am still running my Dell laptop using Win 7 to emboss. HTH. 
> 
> Eileen 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
>> have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
>> jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
>> Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach 
>> her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille 
>> using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
>> 
>> Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
>> accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
>> apps won’t run at all.
>> 
>> So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
>> solution is to still run Windows?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
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Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks for confirming, yeah is there a more ironic Twitter handle than FBAccess
On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:18 PM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That did work when I did it on my account, but I couldn't make it work on 
> somebody else's account when I had access to it for a reason a few months 
> ago. I can't get most of the menus to work in any version of FB at the 
> moment. Don't you just wish they would fix accessibility in all areas of the 
> site!
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 2 Jan 2014, at 20:08, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Dave,
>> 
>> Have you figured out how to get all of your News Feed to show up? I thought 
>> I had found the toggle but pressing it does nothing, so in menu tab I have 
>> giant time gaps between posts on my news feed.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
>>> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that 
>>> the label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
>>> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
>>> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
>>> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since 
>>> it changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts 
>>> having the website display completely differently to each other, so giving 
>>> precise instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
 TIA,
 Donna
 On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
 
> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
> 
> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but 
>> see no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
>> interact".
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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cross referencing files when adding to ITunes

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,  here’s what’s going on.

I have two files which I wish to ad to ITunes.  No big deal about ading them, 
making sure the Meda data is correct and all that:  however, I wish these files 
to be added to two customized albums I am putting together.  Can I add these 
two files twice and make sure the meta data is correct for each customized 
album so that the ffiles will appear corectly in each album?  Will the files be 
added twice or just once with the second attempt to add only placing meda data 
markers for referencing where the original file is depending on how I tag it?


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Re: Embossing from a Mac..

[Daniel Hawkins]

I did research on that. Even Apple said that LibreOffice, and OpenOffice is 
fully accessible . When I looked around, the last accessible format was on 
Lion, and Openoffice 3.

The Wiki was looks like last updated in 2009.

When I had my Mountain Lion, Openoffice and libreoffice worked, just can’t hear 
what I typed, but if I hit VO l, it will read back to me just fine.

I found a text reader extensions, but the real problem is that the two apps 
just won’t run on Maverick, and i see that others are having that problem.

So, for us on the Mac it is Text Edit, or Pages...
Daniel Hawkins
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2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> According to the Apache web site, Apache Open office supposedly works with VO 
> now, but last I tried it I could only access menu bar items and couldn't 
> actually work with the text in the document. That's been a while so maybe 
> they fixed it again. LibreOffice claims the same thing. Did you try them or 
> was this info from a web page. Both are free so it costs nothing to give them 
> a whirl.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Once again, I have another question for here. Long story short my sister 
>> have been blind for years and I just recently lost my vision. However I 
>> jumped to a Mac right away, but my sister is transiting from Windows XP to 
>> Mac. One problem she had was learning Duxbury, there was none  here to teach 
>> her. So I did research allay, and I found out that you can print braille 
>> using Openoffice or libreOffice. With a odt2 extension.
>> 
>> Now here is a kicker, Appentenly LibreOffice and OpenOffice is not 
>> accessible on a Mac, only on Snow Lepord. And now with Maverick, those two 
>> apps won’t run at all.
>> 
>> So, does anyone have a solution to emboss from a Mac? Or is the only 
>> solution is to still run Windows?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
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>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
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Re: Ftp server using the server app

[Chris Blouch]

Are you sure you want to do ftp and not sftp? ftp requires rather large 
swaths of ports to be opened before it will work. How did you enable ftp 
on your mac?


CB

On 12/29/13 9:55 AM, Kjsc Radio wrote:

Hello, I am thinking about setting up an FTP server using the server on Mac. 
I've done this before, but I have failed. Due to incorrect Port forwarding, I 
have forward ports 21 and other ports to make the FTP server work. But when one 
of my other machines connects to the network via FTP, it doesn't want to allow 
the connection. Is there any other ports that I should forward?

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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Esther]

Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,

Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
"Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
button to clip the recipe.  

Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
 This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
"Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
"Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
"Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  

Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
the "Getting Started" instructions.

You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
"f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
"Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by 
simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in 
the text field.  Using this field, your search will not specify any 
particular recipe sites, so if I type in text, such as "Latin Black Bean 
Soup", and then either press "Return" or navigate to the "Search" button 
and press it, I'll get a Google search of many different recipes sites, 
with links to results within the HTML area. Navigate through the heading 
links of the results and activate the one that you want. 

Now, to just read the recipe content instead of browsing the web page in 
the HTML area, you VO-Left arrow twice, out of the HTML area to the 
"Recipes" check box and then to the "Save Recipe" button, and press this 
button with VO-space. Then you can simply navigate to the pane that now 
contains the information clipped from the recipe to view the contents.  Not 
all fields may be filled in, and in particular you will want to press the 
"Categories" button to assign this recipe to an organization category of 
your selection, like "Soups", "Main Courses", "Deserts", "Salads", etc. 
 This assumes that you have previously created categories under the 
"Recipes" section of the app using the "Add Category" button -- otherwise 
the table under the Categories button will be empty, and you will have to 
edit the recipe later by finding it under th

Re: windows virtual machine

[Andrew Head]

Thanks all,
I have maxed out my mac, I have 512 gb storage, 8 gb ram and the I7 processor, 
so I can quite easily run windows 7. 
To clarify, It’s recommended to allocate 10 gb for windows and jaws, plus 
another 10 for other things? I’ll only be using a couple of games, dvd audio 
extractor, unless there is a version of that for the mac, and sendero gps and 
maps for the pc. 
20 gb should cover that nicely. 
and I guess 1 gb of ram since the games are only audio ones. 
Hope everyone has a good day,
Andrew 
On 1 Jan 2014, at 5:51 pm, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> To add a bit more, VMWare is an app like any other. When it is running a 
> virtual machine it uses up CPU and RAM but once you quit it it takes up only 
> disk space. The disk space, as previously mentioned, is allocated as you use 
> it. So I usually give 60GB to my virtual machine knowing that I'll only use a 
> few of those GB for the initial Windows install plus whatever else I put in. 
> How many actual GB Windows takes depends on what version. Win7 with the 
> basics like Jaws and Firefox can easily eat up 10GB. For most folks disk 
> space is a lot more available than RAM or CPU. I don't know as much about RAM 
> but CPU is like most apps. If you just have VMWare with Windows sitting there 
> doing nothing you'll use very little of your Mac's CPU. I usually try to 
> allocate at least two CPU on Windows newer than XP. I generally give 512MB 
> RAM to XP, 1024MB to anything newer and 2048MB to any 64-bit Windows. Of 
> course you can't do that if it will starve your Mac side. If your machine 
> only has two CPUs and 2GB RAM, don't allocate it all to Windows or things 
> will bottleneck quickly.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/30/13 6:29 AM, Piotr Machacz wrote:
>> The requirements for disk space and ram depend non the windows version. XP 
>> doesn’t need much, you could probably do with even 256MB and a couple gigs 
>> of disk space, but I’d recommend at least 512 or a gig of ram. Newer windows 
>> need more, for vista and seven you need a gig of ram and 20 gigs of disk 
>> space just for the OS.
>> As far as resource usage, of course it has to come from somewhere, so they 
>> won’t be available on the mac. The good thing though is that the settings 
>> you choose for the VM aren’t immediately allocated. So, if your VM has 2 
>> gigs of ram, but the VM is only using half of it, then vmware won’t use 
>> those 2 gigs as long as it’s not needed. The same holds for the CPU, where 
>> you can also specify how many cores a VM can use. But again it won’t 
>> immediately use all of it. For disk space, you can choose if you want it to 
>> already allocate the space (EG, a 20 gig virtual disk would already be 20 
>> gigs), or not (so then that file wouldn’t take up the space if it’s not 
>> being used).
>> 
>> For games, you can play audio games and anything light. But if you want to 
>> play main stream games that use a lot of video card resources, you’ll be 
>> better off setting up a bootcamp partition, so the game can use all the 
>> resources of your mac.
>> On 30 Dec 2013, at 10:24 am, Andrew Head  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just got a question about windows on the mac in virtual machine. Can 
>>> someone please explain how this works exactly? I know you can assign a 
>>> certain disc space, ram, etc to use windows. How does this work? what is 
>>> the least amount of hard drive space needed to run windows and what’s the 
>>> least amount of ram needed? Because this hard drive space and ram is being 
>>> used for windows, does this effect things on the mac side, do you now have 
>>> less hard drive space and ram on the mac side of things because part of the 
>>> computer is now being used for windows?
>>> And what if you were using windows for something requiring a lot of 
>>> processing power, such as game play? if you chose the least amount of ram 
>>> and hard drive space, does this then effect how well programs will run 
>>> under windows and how much storage space you have under windows?
>>> I hope this email makes sense, and thanks in advance for answering my 
>>> questions.
>>> Hope everyone has a good day and a safe, blessed and happy new year.
>>> Andrew
>>> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: transferring first tivo show

[Gary]

Hi,
I got the Toast 11 and had someone read me the table on the left for the Tivo 
transfer app in Toast.  The program is not very accessible, but with sighted 
help, I was able to figure out what I needed, to do the following. 
I put Toast on my Snow Leopard and was able to transfer movies from my Tivo to 
my Mac using Tivo Transfer, convert them from the .tivo format to an iPhone 
format (.m4v) using Toast, and stripped the audio, converting it into a .m4a 
(MPAAC) format, using a free app called MPEG StreamClip.
The left table has 8 rows.  In this order , they are: Library; Tivo Recordings; 
Transfers; Active Transfers, Auto Transfers; MyTivo #1; MyTivo #2. 
I have 2 Tivo’s at home, which is why I have 8 rows in the table.  Also, I used 
VO+/ to edit the labels in the table.  If you want to contact me off line I can 
walk you through the process.

Gary
gary.robl...@gmail.com




On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Hi:
> Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to the 
> tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The desktop 
> software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer shows. It's 
> fine on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore is to transfer 
> shows from Tivo to Computer for storage.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey,
>> 
>> I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
>> Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
>> However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
>> app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and manage 
>> my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few hiccups it 
>> works great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. Also, with the 
>> latest update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest boxes you can 
>> watch any of your shows as long as you are on a WiFi network, you no longer 
>> have to be on your own network, as I tested it out on my neighbors, and it 
>> works great. Considering how inaccessible almost every DVR is, Tivo has 
>> worked fantastic for me, and I would recommend it to anyone, of course, it 
>> is more expensive than going with your cable DVR, but the benefits and 
>> accessibility make it worth it.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A 
>>> lot of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 
>>> rows. All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each row, 
>>> went across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was successful. In the 
>>> second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo box. Pressing command j 
>>> brings up a view option that looks like iTunes where you can select 
>>> different options such as title description, channel, etc. I checked all 
>>> but the titles of the shows do not show up in the list, just the channel, 
>>> description, file size, and duration. You also see a section for total 
>>> shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news is I just took a peak in the 
>>> folder where the show is transferring, and the show title is there. I'll 
>>> have to see if I can find a pair of eyes to describe the first table. This 
>>> app isn't for the novas Mac or VO user.
>>> 
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Re: virtualization solutions

[Sandi Jazmin Kruse]

hi Daniel, too make a new windows install, find the new item, click on
it and let the windows install helper take care of the rest.
All of this takes place under vmware, so as the windows install do
what it do best, you can't see anything going on on the screen.
I got a old xp image laying around i use it for scanning nursing and
other medical books, it works adoringly.

best


Sandi


On 1/2/14, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> Yes, you need to buy for the Mac separately. Look for vmware fusion; it
> should say it's for the Mac too.
>
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>
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Rajiv Shah  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have one follow-up question. I have a VMWare licence for the Windows
>> Environment. Do I need to buy a separate one for the Mac? If so, what
>> product do I look for? This did not appeared to be clear from the thread
>> below.
>>
>> Thanks. Rajiv
>>
>> On 1/2/2014 3:55 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> Should work fine. There might still be the capslock issue and when you
>>> use the Windows keyboard on the Mac side the command and option keys get
>>> flip flopped. That used to drive me crazy so I use a full-size Apple USB
>>> keyboard and just deal with the issues on the Windows side when I run the
>>> virtual machine, which is only once in a while. If you have VMWare with
>>> Windows running, when you insert a new USB device it will ask if you want
>>> it connected on the Mac or the virtual PC side. So if you let the virtual
>>> machine take over the external keyboard maybe the caps lock would work.
>>> Never tried that.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> On 1/2/14 3:51 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 This brings me to another question. Can you plug in an USB full Windows
 keyboard and have it work on the MBA? I have one lying around here and
 it would be nice to have a full keyboard when using the Window side in
 the virtual environment.

 thanks.

 Eileen On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch 
 wrote:

> If you need occasional access to some Windows-only app a virtual
> machine can be a nice way to do it. Of course, like a real Windows
> machine, you'll have to install Windows and your screen reader of
> choice. The only common complaint is mapping of the caps lock and
>   insert keys. Apparently the Mac OS doesn't pass the caps lock
> through so if it is being used for something other than making capital
> letters you'll need to use another key combo. Likewise for those on
> laptops or using smaller external keyboards there isn't an insert key.
> Check the list archives for workarounds on both of those.
>
> CB
>
> On 1/2/14 2:55 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>> So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to
>> have a virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do
>> work fine on Mac, Right?
>>
>>
>>
>> reggie and Allegra
>>
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>
>> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps
>> which emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you
>> launch one of those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your
>> bidding. Most people use them to load Windows on but you can load an
>> OS that normally will run on a generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine
>> is only as accessible as the OS normally would be on real hardware. Of
>> course there is some overhead so things won't run 100% the speed that
>> they would on dedicated hardware, but for most things that isn't an
>> issue. For example, if you had a virtual windows machine running
>> Office, and you went to save a file. Office would pass the data to
>> Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code would be
>> writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the virtual
>> machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of
>> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is
>> free but the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control
>> it fully from the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as
>> is but costs a few bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special
>> running). Parallels is not free and is also not accessible so you can
>> ignore it. Also, it's Mac only while virtual machines made with VMWare
>> can also run under VMWare Player on Windows and Linux. When I say
>> accessible, that means t

vlc and air play

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
I just got vlc so I can play ogg files without having to get my dear husband to 
convert them for me..
Is there a way to have them airplay, like there is in i tunes?

thanks!
Cait

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Re: find my phone?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

No luck on finding that app.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
> item.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Ray,
>> 
>> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
>> for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
>> iCloud interface is now the only option?
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>>> 
>>> www.icloud.com
>>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>>> 
 I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
 great and it is accessible.
 
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Re: find my phone?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I only find the iOS version in the iTunes store.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
>> Donna
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the first 
>>> item.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 Ray,
 
 I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app store 
 for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering if the 
 iCloud interface is now the only option?
 Best,
 Donna
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> Did you use the web interfase at:
> 
> www.icloud.com
> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
> 
>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
>> great and it is accessible.
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Re: transferring first tivo show

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks!
I have 7 rows, b/c I only have 1 Tivo. Roxio wasn't worth the $50 I paid for 
it. I only use my Windows machine to transfer Tivo shows. Since XP is going 
away, I'm going to replace that desktop with a Mac, and didn't want to load 
Windows just for one program. I also read on a forum where you can go to Safari 
and open the tiro by typing in the IP address, use tivo as your log in name and 
your media access key as the password. You are supposed to see your tivo shows, 
and be able to download them directly. I haven't tried it yet. 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Gary  wrote:

> Hi,
> I got the Toast 11 and had someone read me the table on the left for the Tivo 
> transfer app in Toast.  The program is not very accessible, but with sighted 
> help, I was able to figure out what I needed, to do the following. 
> I put Toast on my Snow Leopard and was able to transfer movies from my Tivo 
> to my Mac using Tivo Transfer, convert them from the .tivo format to an 
> iPhone format (.m4v) using Toast, and stripped the audio, converting it into 
> a .m4a (MPAAC) format, using a free app called MPEG StreamClip.
> The left table has 8 rows.  In this order , they are: Library; Tivo 
> Recordings; Transfers; Active Transfers, Auto Transfers; MyTivo #1; MyTivo 
> #2. 
> I have 2 Tivo’s at home, which is why I have 8 rows in the table.  Also, I 
> used VO+/ to edit the labels in the table.  If you want to contact me off 
> line I can walk you through the process.
> 
> Gary
> gary.robl...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to 
>> the tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The 
>> desktop software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer 
>> shows. It's fine on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore 
>> is to transfer shows from Tivo to Computer for storage.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
>>> Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
>>> However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
>>> app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and manage 
>>> my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few hiccups it 
>>> works great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. Also, with the 
>>> latest update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest boxes you can 
>>> watch any of your shows as long as you are on a WiFi network, you no longer 
>>> have to be on your own network, as I tested it out on my neighbors, and it 
>>> works great. Considering how inaccessible almost every DVR is, Tivo has 
>>> worked fantastic for me, and I would recommend it to anyone, of course, it 
>>> is more expensive than going with your cable DVR, but the benefits and 
>>> accessibility make it worth it.
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A 
 lot of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 
 rows. All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each row, 
 went across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was successful. In 
 the second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo box. Pressing 
 command j brings up a view option that looks like iTunes where you can 
 select different options such as title description, channel, etc. I 
 checked all but the titles of the shows do not show up in the list, just 
 the channel, description, file size, and duration. You also see a section 
 for total shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news is I just took a peak 
 in the folder where the show is transferring, and the show title is there. 
 I'll have to see if I can find a pair of eyes to describe the first table. 
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Re: find my phone?

[Ray Foret Jr]

That’s right.  Read my earlier messages.  You will find that no Mac version 
exists.  You would need to install the app on your idevice and sign in with 
that app to your Apple ID.  Now,  say you want to find your phone using your 
Mac, you would, on yoru Mac, go to:

www.icloud.com
and there, sign in using the apple ID with which you signed in on your idevice. 
 Now, there’s a frame up at the very top left once you press the Find my phone 
button.  That frame contains all the devices which are findable for you on that 
Apple ID.  If you then press the Iphone button in that group of devices, you 
will get a map showing you where your phone is.  You can just tab past this as 
with the Mac and Voice Over, the data seems to be totally unreadable.  However, 
tabbing past this point will reveal controls with which you can force your 
found device to play a loud sound for about two minutes, or, you can remotely 
wipe out your device entirely.  Also, you can put the device in lost mode which 
gives you other options.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Hi:
> I only find the iOS version in the iTunes store.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the 
 first item.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app 
> store for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering 
> if the iCloud interface is now the only option?
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>> 
>> www.icloud.com
>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
>>> great and it is accessible.
>>> 
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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thank you Ester!
This helps a lot. I have a big recipes folder that I'm trying to import, as 
well as some recipes I've bookmarked off the web. I also love the search 
feature. I can do a search of my receipes in the database. Thanks for the 
detailed instructions. I appreciate it.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,
> 
> Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
> of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
> button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
> web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
> in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
> HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
> that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
> select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
> "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
> you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
> button to clip the recipe.  
> 
> Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
> information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
> search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
> first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
> text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
> toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
> add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
> This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
> locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
> set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
> pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
> or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
> Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
> key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
> area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
> Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
> using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
> button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
> "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
> VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
> label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
> "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
> "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
> these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
> identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  
> 
> Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
> users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
> Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
> box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
> the "Getting Started" instructions.
> 
> You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
> the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
> letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
> tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
> shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
> text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
> Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
> "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
> "Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by 
> simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in 
> the text field.  Using this field, your search will not specify any 
> particular recipe sites, so if I type in text, such as "Latin Black Bean 
> Soup", and then either press "Return" or navigate to the "Search" button 
> and press it, I'll get a Google search of many different recipes sites, 
> with links to results within the HTML area. Navigate through the heading 
> links of the results and activate the one that you want. 
> 
> Now, to just read the recipe content instead of browsing the web page in 
> the HTML area, you VO-Left arrow twice, out of the HTML area to the 
> "Recipes" check box and then to the "Save Recipe" button, and press this 
> button with VO-space. Then you can simply navigate to the pane that now 
> contains the information clipped from the recipe to view the contents.  Not 
> all fields may be fil

Re: find my phone?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thank you! I wish the map was accessible.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> That’s right.  Read my earlier messages.  You will find that no Mac version 
> exists.  You would need to install the app on your idevice and sign in with 
> that app to your Apple ID.  Now,  say you want to find your phone using your 
> Mac, you would, on yoru Mac, go to:
> 
> www.icloud.com
> and there, sign in using the apple ID with which you signed in on your 
> idevice.  Now, there’s a frame up at the very top left once you press the 
> Find my phone button.  That frame contains all the devices which are findable 
> for you on that Apple ID.  If you then press the Iphone button in that group 
> of devices, you will get a map showing you where your phone is.  You can just 
> tab past this as with the Mac and Voice Over, the data seems to be totally 
> unreadable.  However, tabbing past this point will reveal controls with which 
> you can force your found device to play a loud sound for about two minutes, 
> or, you can remotely wipe out your device entirely.  Also, you can put the 
> device in lost mode which gives you other options.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:07 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I only find the iOS version in the iTunes store.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
 Donna
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
 
> Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the 
> first item.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> Ray,
>> 
>> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app 
>> store for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering 
>> if the iCloud interface is now the only option?
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>>> 
>>> www.icloud.com
>>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>> blind built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>>> 
 I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
 great and it is accessible.
 
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Tivo to mpg2 decoder

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Is there a Mac equivalent to Direct Show Dump Utility? This is a simple 
conversion app for Windows that lets me convert the .tivo format to .mpeg 
format.

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Re: find my phone?

[Jessica Moss]

Oh sorry, I didn't know there were multiple versions.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Hi:
> I only find the iOS version in the iTunes store.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> I find it in the ITunes store.  Try there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just did.  I get a message saying your search had no results.
>>> Donna
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>>> 
 Try Find My Phone instead. That search should bring up the app as the 
 first item.
 
 CB
 
 On 1/2/14 12:09 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> I'm working on the same issue today.  I just did a search in the app 
> store for the Find my iPhone app, and it did not appear.  I'm wondering 
> if the iCloud interface is now the only option?
> Best,
> Donna
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Did you use the web interfase at:
>> 
>> www.icloud.com
>> or did you install the Find My Iphone app on to your Mac from ITunes?  
>> Seems to me the web interfase is a wee bit clunky.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>> blind built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Daniel C  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've had to use Find My iPhone plenty to locate devices, and it works 
>>> great and it is accessible.
>>> 
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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Esther, 

Thank you, thank you… With your detailed instructions, I just clipped my first 
recipe. It's a snap when one knows all the ins & outs of a software. Your 
explicit instructions did the trick. As I get more comfortable with Paprika, 
I'm sure I will acquire a large library. Yesterday, I began to copy from my 
braille recipe book some of my favorite and well-used recipes for keep saving. 
I still need to add more categories, but that function was quite easy for me to 
complete. Maybe one day all of us that are using Paprika can begin a recipe 
club to exchange our recipes between each other. *Smile*

thanks again. 

Eileen 
On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Thank you Ester!
> This helps a lot. I have a big recipes folder that I'm trying to import, as 
> well as some recipes I've bookmarked off the web. I also love the search 
> feature. I can do a search of my receipes in the database. Thanks for the 
> detailed instructions. I appreciate it.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,
>> 
>> Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
>> of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
>> button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
>> web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
>> in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
>> HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
>> that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
>> select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
>> "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
>> you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
>> button to clip the recipe.  
>> 
>> Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
>> information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
>> search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
>> first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
>> text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
>> toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
>> add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
>> This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
>> locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
>> set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
>> pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
>> or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
>> Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
>> key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
>> area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
>> Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
>> using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
>> button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
>> "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
>> VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
>> label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
>> "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
>> "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
>> these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
>> identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  
>> 
>> Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
>> users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
>> Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
>> box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
>> the "Getting Started" instructions.
>> 
>> You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
>> the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
>> letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
>> tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
>> shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
>> text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
>> Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
>> "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
>> "Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by 
>> simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in 
>> the text field.  Using this field, your search will not specify a

Re: MenuTab Pro - how do I toggle between desktop and mobile mode?

[Donna Goodin]

God, I'll second that!
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:18 PM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> That did work when I did it on my account, but I couldn't make it work on 
> somebody else's account when I had access to it for a reason a few months 
> ago. I can't get most of the menus to work in any version of FB at the 
> moment. Don't you just wish they would fix accessibility in all areas of the 
> site!
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 2 Jan 2014, at 20:08, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Dave,
>> 
>> Have you figured out how to get all of your News Feed to show up? I thought 
>> I had found the toggle but pressing it does nothing, so in menu tab I have 
>> giant time gaps between posts on my news feed.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:06 AM, David Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct. The label of the button remains the same. If you had gone to the 
>>> HTML area and investigated, you would have noticed the change. Given that 
>>> the label is toggle, one would not expect it to change when the button is 
>>> pressed. If you are going to use Facebook, in any way, you are simply going 
>>> to have to try things and explore to see results, so I would get into the 
>>> habit of doing so, rather than thinking people can teach everything, since 
>>> it changes so often. I've even seen instances of two Facebook accounts 
>>> having the website display completely differently to each other, so giving 
>>> precise instruction is really not possible in a lot of situations.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 2 Jan 2014, at 01:27, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 I tried that, but no change was reflected by VO.  Is that normal?
 TIA,
 Donna
 On Jan 1, 2014, at 5:22 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
 
> You just vo-space on it, or up/down in my case using quick nav!
> 
> On 1 Jan 2014, at 21:26, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I see the text that says "Toggle between desktop and Mobile Mode"  but 
>> see no way to do it.  When I interact, VO just says "No visible title to 
>> interact".
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: transferring first tivo show

[Gary]

Entering the IP address for your Tivo use to work, but it doesn’t anymore.  You 
only get a generic welcome window that has a link to tivo.com.
Gary
On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Thanks!
> I have 7 rows, b/c I only have 1 Tivo. Roxio wasn't worth the $50 I paid for 
> it. I only use my Windows machine to transfer Tivo shows. Since XP is going 
> away, I'm going to replace that desktop with a Mac, and didn't want to load 
> Windows just for one program. I also read on a forum where you can go to 
> Safari and open the tiro by typing in the IP address, use tivo as your log in 
> name and your media access key as the password. You are supposed to see your 
> tivo shows, and be able to download them directly. I haven't tried it yet. 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I got the Toast 11 and had someone read me the table on the left for the 
>> Tivo transfer app in Toast.  The program is not very accessible, but with 
>> sighted help, I was able to figure out what I needed, to do the following. 
>> I put Toast on my Snow Leopard and was able to transfer movies from my Tivo 
>> to my Mac using Tivo Transfer, convert them from the .tivo format to an 
>> iPhone format (.m4v) using Toast, and stripped the audio, converting it into 
>> a .m4a (MPAAC) format, using a free app called MPEG StreamClip.
>> The left table has 8 rows.  In this order , they are: Library; Tivo 
>> Recordings; Transfers; Active Transfers, Auto Transfers; MyTivo #1; MyTivo 
>> #2. 
>> I have 2 Tivo’s at home, which is why I have 8 rows in the table.  Also, I 
>> used VO+/ to edit the labels in the table.  If you want to contact me off 
>> line I can walk you through the process.
>> 
>> Gary
>> gary.robl...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to 
>>> the tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The 
>>> desktop software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer 
>>> shows. It's fine on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore 
>>> is to transfer shows from Tivo to Computer for storage.
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey,
 
 I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
 Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
 However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
 app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and 
 manage my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few 
 hiccups it works great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. 
 Also, with the latest update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest 
 boxes you can watch any of your shows as long as you are on a WiFi 
 network, you no longer have to be on your own network, as I tested it out 
 on my neighbors, and it works great. Considering how inaccessible almost 
 every DVR is, Tivo has worked fantastic for me, and I would recommend it 
 to anyone, of course, it is more expensive than going with your cable DVR, 
 but the benefits and accessibility make it worth it.
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
> Hi:
> Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A 
> lot of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 
> rows. All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each row, 
> went across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was successful. In 
> the second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo box. Pressing 
> command j brings up a view option that looks like iTunes where you can 
> select different options such as title description, channel, etc. I 
> checked all but the titles of the shows do not show up in the list, just 
> the channel, description, file size, and duration. You also see a section 
> for total shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news is I just took a 
> peak in the folder where the show is transferring, and the show title is 
> there. I'll have to see if I can find a pair of eyes to describe the 
> first table. This app isn't for the novas Mac or VO user.
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Scanner Pro Free in the app store

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I just got Scanner Pro for the iPhone as it is now free in the app store. Has 
anyone figured this app out? I can take a scan as I hear the photo being taken, 
but after that I can't seem to have anything read to me. I thought I heard this 
app was accessible, if anyone has figured it out would love to hear. Thanks

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Re: virtualization solutions

[Terje Strømberg]

I have a OEM of Windows 7. I downloaded a ISO image of Windows 7 and pointed 
VMWare to it and used the OEM licence number. You choose easy install and fill 
in password for login and the license number before hitting continue and point 
to the ISO image. After installing VMWare first and hit add button. Copy or 
download the VMWare to the external and install it from there. You may need to 
be sure to point to the external hard drive during installation or when 
finished you get the option to choose where to save the virtual machine. Don`t 
remember exactly. I believe if you install from the external harddrive it will 
save it there, but to be sure, use the option to choose. Also, i think it is 
good to allocate CPU and RAM at the end of the Windows installation hitting the 
button customize or simualar. This opens the settings window. If you point it 
to save to the external hard drive or install from the external harddrive, it 
will not use the internal SSD, i believe. Others may correct, no problem, but 
it is my impression after installing on a external SSD. Don't have it on the 
external right now, but will probably install it again. Trying something else. 
There where no issiues.

Take care

2. jan. 2014 kl. 21:18 skrev Eileen Misrahi :

Hi Chris, 

I have a few questions for you using VMWare. 

1. I have a OEM copy of 8.0 (not professional). Will this work with VMWare? Its 
never been opened.
2.  Can VMWare be placed on an external HD that has been partition to handle 
both the Mac/PC?
3. Do you need to allocate RAM and SSD HD space on my MBA? This is a MBA 2013 
machine and I have 8GB RAM and 512 GB SSD storage. 
 
On  it.

The items that I am looking to place in a virtual environment include: Office 
2010, Duxbury, OpenBook or Kurzweil (not both), and a financial program called 
Money Talk from APH in order to print my business checks. Any suggestions on 
how to configure what may be needed to run these items would be terrific. 

Thanks in advance. 

Best, 
Eileen Jan 2, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which 
> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of 
> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use 
> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a 
> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS 
> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so 
> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but 
> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual 
> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would 
> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code 
> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the 
> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of 
> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but 
> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from 
> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few 
> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is not 
> free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac only 
> while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare Player on 
> Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual machine app 
> itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC and such. As 
> previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will be just as 
> accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If you must 
> have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots your Mac 
> into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I haven't tried 
> this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make a nice 
> high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to boot in 
> either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other requires a 
> reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, use and quit. 
> So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a Windows app or 
> vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the virtual machine 
> hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got some nasty Windows 
> virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch is that virtual hard 
> drive, not your entire Mac drive.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s 
>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac.
>> 
>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too?
>> 
>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two.
>> 
>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for the

Downloading MP3s Purchased From amazon

[Jane]

I purchased a track today, and I am trying to download the MP3 to my Mac. It 
simply is not working, I have launched the cloud player on my Mac but I can't 
see anything on the screen. Does anyone have any idea what to do? Pressing 
control-option-shift-space on download doesn't seem to work.

Jane

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Re: Downloading MP3s Purchased From amazon

[Jessica D]

What just control, option space?

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> On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:32 PM, Jane  wrote:
> 
> I purchased a track today, and I am trying to download the MP3 to my Mac. It 
> simply is not working, I have launched the cloud player on my Mac but I can't 
> see anything on the screen. Does anyone have any idea what to do? Pressing 
> control-option-shift-space on download doesn't seem to work.
> 
> Jane
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Re: find my phone?

[Daniel C]

In iTues, search for these exact wordds.
Find iPhone

You'll then install the Find My iPhone app onto your i-device.
On your Mac computer using iCloud, you can find your devices, though for some 
reason, the web interface is crap.
Find iPhone
Is the correct version that's found in the iPhone appstore, and should be the 
version that will work accessibly.
Find Phone, I've never herd of.

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Re: vlc and air play

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I've not seen the ability to do air play in VLC myself.
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Re: transferring first tivo show

[Tom Moore]

Hi,
In order to access the Tivo you have to do https://ip_of_tivo
If you do this you can login and pull down your shows.
How long does it take to convert the shows to the Iphone format?
If I use my 3 year old pc it takes like 10 minutes to convert each show I 
believe.

Thanks,
Tom


> On Jan 2, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> Entering the IP address for your Tivo use to work, but it doesn’t anymore.  
> You only get a generic welcome window that has a link to tivo.com.
> Gary
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> I have 7 rows, b/c I only have 1 Tivo. Roxio wasn't worth the $50 I paid for 
>> it. I only use my Windows machine to transfer Tivo shows. Since XP is going 
>> away, I'm going to replace that desktop with a Mac, and didn't want to load 
>> Windows just for one program. I also read on a forum where you can go to 
>> Safari and open the tiro by typing in the IP address, use tivo as your log 
>> in name and your media access key as the password. You are supposed to see 
>> your tivo shows, and be able to download them directly. I haven't tried it 
>> yet. 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Gary  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I got the Toast 11 and had someone read me the table on the left for the 
>>> Tivo transfer app in Toast.  The program is not very accessible, but with 
>>> sighted help, I was able to figure out what I needed, to do the following. 
>>> I put Toast on my Snow Leopard and was able to transfer movies from my Tivo 
>>> to my Mac using Tivo Transfer, convert them from the .tivo format to an 
>>> iPhone format (.m4v) using Toast, and stripped the audio, converting it 
>>> into a .m4a (MPAAC) format, using a free app called MPEG StreamClip.
>>> The left table has 8 rows.  In this order , they are: Library; Tivo 
>>> Recordings; Transfers; Active Transfers, Auto Transfers; MyTivo #1; MyTivo 
>>> #2. 
>>> I have 2 Tivo’s at home, which is why I have 8 rows in the table.  Also, I 
>>> used VO+/ to edit the labels in the table.  If you want to contact me off 
>>> line I can walk you through the process.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> gary.robl...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
  wrote:
 
 Hi:
 Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to 
 the tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The 
 desktop software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer 
 shows. It's fine on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore 
 is to transfer shows from Tivo to Computer for storage.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
> Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
> However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
> app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and 
> manage my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few 
> hiccups it works great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. 
> Also, with the latest update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest 
> boxes you can watch any of your shows as long as you are on a WiFi 
> network, you no longer have to be on your own network, as I tested it out 
> on my neighbors, and it works great. Considering how inaccessible almost 
> every DVR is, Tivo has worked fantastic for me, and I would recommend it 
> to anyone, of course, it is more expensive than going with your cable 
> DVR, but the benefits and accessibility make it worth it.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A 
>> lot of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 
>> rows. All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each 
>> row, went across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was 
>> successful. In the second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo 
>> box. Pressing command j brings up a view option that looks like iTunes 
>> where you can select different options such as title description, 
>> channel, etc. I checked all but the titles of the shows do not show up 
>> in the list, just the channel, description, file size, and duration. You 
>> also see a section for total shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news 
>> is I just took a peak in the folder where the show is transferring, and 
>> the show title is there. I'll have to see if I can find a pair of eyes 
>> to describe the first table. This app isn't for the novas Mac or VO user.
>> 
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for the new Mac User

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi everyone:
This article is good for the new Mac user. You can learn concepts regarding the 
Mac OS. 
http://www.macworld.com/article/2081983/top-10-lessons-for-the-new-mac-user.html

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Re: vlc and air play

[Chris Blouch]

Used to be that you could add the Ogg codec to QuickTime so iTunes could 
play back those files automatically. Unfortunatly the QT component for 
Ogg hasn't been updated since 2009 and fails under 64-bit. If you're not 
running 64-bit it might still work for you:


http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html

That would at least get them working in iTunes but I suspect AirPlay 
still would not support them.


CB

On 1/2/14 6:36 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:

Hi,
I just got vlc so I can play ogg files without having to get my dear husband to 
convert them for me..
Is there a way to have them airplay, like there is in i tunes?

thanks!
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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

You can also use Paprika to email recipes to people.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:

> Hi Esther, 
> 
> Thank you, thank you… With your detailed instructions, I just clipped my 
> first recipe. It's a snap when one knows all the ins & outs of a software. 
> Your explicit instructions did the trick. As I get more comfortable with 
> Paprika, I'm sure I will acquire a large library. Yesterday, I began to copy 
> from my braille recipe book some of my favorite and well-used recipes for 
> keep saving. I still need to add more categories, but that function was quite 
> easy for me to complete. Maybe one day all of us that are using Paprika can 
> begin a recipe club to exchange our recipes between each other. *Smile*
> 
> thanks again. 
> 
> Eileen 
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Ester!
>> This helps a lot. I have a big recipes folder that I'm trying to import, as 
>> well as some recipes I've bookmarked off the web. I also love the search 
>> feature. I can do a search of my receipes in the database. Thanks for the 
>> detailed instructions. I appreciate it.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,
>>> 
>>> Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
>>> of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
>>> button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
>>> web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
>>> in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
>>> HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
>>> that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
>>> select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
>>> "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
>>> you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
>>> button to clip the recipe.  
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
>>> information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
>>> search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
>>> first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
>>> text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
>>> toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
>>> add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
>>> This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
>>> locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
>>> set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
>>> pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
>>> or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
>>> Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
>>> key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
>>> area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
>>> Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
>>> using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
>>> button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
>>> "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
>>> VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
>>> label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
>>> "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
>>> "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
>>> these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
>>> identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  
>>> 
>>> Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
>>> users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
>>> Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
>>> box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
>>> the "Getting Started" instructions.
>>> 
>>> You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
>>> the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
>>> letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
>>> tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
>>> shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
>>> text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
>>> Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
>>> "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
>>> "Search for

Re: transferring first tivo show

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I didn't have time to download, but I was able to see my playing list on the 
Windows side of things using firefox and IP address. Haven't tried it on my Mac 
yet.
On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Gary  wrote:

> Entering the IP address for your Tivo use to work, but it doesn’t anymore.  
> You only get a generic welcome window that has a link to tivo.com.
> Gary
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks!
>> I have 7 rows, b/c I only have 1 Tivo. Roxio wasn't worth the $50 I paid for 
>> it. I only use my Windows machine to transfer Tivo shows. Since XP is going 
>> away, I'm going to replace that desktop with a Mac, and didn't want to load 
>> Windows just for one program. I also read on a forum where you can go to 
>> Safari and open the tiro by typing in the IP address, use tivo as your log 
>> in name and your media access key as the password. You are supposed to see 
>> your tivo shows, and be able to download them directly. I haven't tried it 
>> yet. 
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Gary  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I got the Toast 11 and had someone read me the table on the left for the 
>>> Tivo transfer app in Toast.  The program is not very accessible, but with 
>>> sighted help, I was able to figure out what I needed, to do the following. 
>>> I put Toast on my Snow Leopard and was able to transfer movies from my Tivo 
>>> to my Mac using Tivo Transfer, convert them from the .tivo format to an 
>>> iPhone format (.m4v) using Toast, and stripped the audio, converting it 
>>> into a .m4a (MPAAC) format, using a free app called MPEG StreamClip.
>>> The left table has 8 rows.  In this order , they are: Library; Tivo 
>>> Recordings; Transfers; Active Transfers, Auto Transfers; MyTivo #1; MyTivo 
>>> #2. 
>>> I have 2 Tivo’s at home, which is why I have 8 rows in the table.  Also, I 
>>> used VO+/ to edit the labels in the table.  If you want to contact me off 
>>> line I can walk you through the process.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> gary.robl...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 Unfortunately, if you have Direct, tv Premeer box won't work according to 
 the tivo site. I use to use iTivo before ML to transfer shows to Mac. The 
 desktop software is't accessible on the Mac, nor will let you transfer 
 shows. It's fine on the PC though. THe only thing I use my XP machine fore 
 is to transfer shows from Tivo to Computer for storage.
 On Jan 2, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 
> Hey,
> 
> I have been a long time Tivo user, but never had much success with Tivo 
> Desktop on the mac, in fact, I don't think I even still have installed. 
> However, the Tivo Premiere and later boxes work fantastic with the iPhone 
> app. I can now read my recorded shows on the iPhone, to do list, and 
> manage my season passes, and I got the Tivo Stream, and after a few 
> hiccups it works great if you want to stream Tivo Shows to your iPhone. 
> Also, with the latest update to Tivo, and with the Stream and the latest 
> boxes you can watch any of your shows as long as you are on a WiFi 
> network, you no longer have to be on your own network, as I tested it out 
> on my neighbors, and it works great. Considering how inaccessible almost 
> every DVR is, Tivo has worked fantastic for me, and I would recommend it 
> to anyone, of course, it is more expensive than going with your cable 
> DVR, but the benefits and accessibility make it worth it.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> Ok, I'm transferring my first tivo show using Tivo to go. It's doable. A 
>> lot of unlabeled items. The app has two tables, on the left, you have 7 
>> rows. All say no description available, or untitled. I selected each 
>> row, went across to the next table which was empty. Row 7 was 
>> successful. In the second table has a list of all shows on your Tivo 
>> box. Pressing command j brings up a view option that looks like iTunes 
>> where you can select different options such as title description, 
>> channel, etc. I checked all but the titles of the shows do not show up 
>> in the list, just the channel, description, file size, and duration. You 
>> also see a section for total shows, and gigs to transfer. The good news 
>> is I just took a peak in the folder where the show is transferring, and 
>> the show title is there. I'll have to see if I can find a pair of eyes 
>> to describe the first table. This app isn't for the novas Mac or VO user.
>> 
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Re: Tivo to mpg2 decoder

[Chris Blouch]

I don't have a Tivo but Google pointed me here:

http://code.google.com/p/ctivo/

CB

On 1/2/14 7:29 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi:
Is there a Mac equivalent to Direct Show Dump Utility? This is a simple 
conversion app for Windows that lets me convert the .tivo format to .mpeg 
format.



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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Sean Murphy]

Hi,

Are you aware that the app can import files? It depends on the format of the 
file. If you look at the documentation you will find the info. I am in the 
process of importing over 10,000 recipes that have collected over the years. 

Sean
On 03/01/2014, at 11:26 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Thank you Ester!
> This helps a lot. I have a big recipes folder that I'm trying to import, as 
> well as some recipes I've bookmarked off the web. I also love the search 
> feature. I can do a search of my receipes in the database. Thanks for the 
> detailed instructions. I appreciate it.
> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,
>> 
>> Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
>> of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
>> button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
>> web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
>> in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
>> HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
>> that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
>> select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
>> "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
>> you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
>> button to clip the recipe.  
>> 
>> Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
>> information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
>> search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
>> first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
>> text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
>> toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
>> add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
>> This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
>> locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
>> set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
>> pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
>> or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
>> Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
>> key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
>> area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
>> Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
>> using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
>> button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
>> "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
>> VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
>> label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
>> "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
>> "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
>> these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
>> identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  
>> 
>> Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
>> users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
>> Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
>> box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
>> the "Getting Started" instructions.
>> 
>> You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
>> the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
>> letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
>> tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
>> shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
>> text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
>> Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
>> "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
>> "Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by 
>> simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in 
>> the text field.  Using this field, your search will not specify any 
>> particular recipe sites, so if I type in text, such as "Latin Black Bean 
>> Soup", and then either press "Return" or navigate to the "Search" button 
>> and press it, I'll get a Google search of many different recipes sites, 
>> with links to results within the HTML area. Navigate through the heading 
>> links of the results and activate the one that you want. 
>> 
>> Now, to just read the

Re: cross referencing files when adding to ITunes

[Sean Murphy]

Hi,

If I understand what you are trying to do. You just have to make sure the album 
name is different. The file will be in both locations. For example.

Song name: hello world
Artist:  The best band 
album:  classical 

Song name: hello world
Artist:  The best band 
album:  Jazz 

The above should work.

On 03/01/2014, at 8:09 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Okay,  here’s what’s going on.
> 
> I have two files which I wish to ad to ITunes.  No big deal about ading them, 
> making sure the Meda data is correct and all that:  however, I wish these 
> files to be added to two customized albums I am putting together.  Can I add 
> these two files twice and make sure the meta data is correct for each 
> customized album so that the ffiles will appear corectly in each album?  Will 
> the files be added twice or just once with the second attempt to add only 
> placing meda data markers for referencing where the original file is 
> depending on how I tag it?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
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Re: Paprika clipping recipes

[Jim Gatteys]

And if you import those 10 thousand recipes can you share that database with 
others?  I use MacGourmet and that is a feature that I like, it is easy to 
share recipes.  I have not tried paprika although maybe I should give it a 
shot.  I just like the iTunes-like interface that MacGourmet has.
Jim

On Jan 2, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Are you aware that the app can import files? It depends on the format of the 
> file. If you look at the documentation you will find the info. I am in the 
> process of importing over 10,000 recipes that have collected over the years. 
> 
> Sean
> On 03/01/2014, at 11:26 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you Ester!
>> This helps a lot. I have a big recipes folder that I'm trying to import, as 
>> well as some recipes I've bookmarked off the web. I also love the search 
>> feature. I can do a search of my receipes in the database. Thanks for the 
>> detailed instructions. I appreciate it.
>> On Jan 2, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Sarah, Eileen, and Others,
>>> 
>>> Here are some tips on using the recipe clipping feature in the Mac version 
>>> of Paprika Recipe Manager.  As Laura described, you press the "Save Recipe" 
>>> button in the toolbar of the Paprika Mac app window to clip recipes from 
>>> web sites.  As a quick overview, you can navigate to recipes in web sites 
>>> in the Browser view either by using the Google search text field in the 
>>> HTML area to do a general search of recipe sites, and then select links 
>>> that you want, followed by using the "Save Recipe" button, or you can 
>>> select one of the web site links in the HTML area under the headings for 
>>> "Recommended Sites", such as "Foodnet.com", then search for the the recipe 
>>> you want at that site's web page, followed by using the "Save Recipe" 
>>> button to clip the recipe.  
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, since the Browser's "Getting Started" HTML page with 
>>> information on how to get started with clipping recipes, the general Google 
>>> search field, and the links to popular recipe sites only loads up when you 
>>> first launch the Browser view, you can also navigate to the Google search 
>>> text field on the window toolbar, or use the Bookmarks button on the window 
>>> toolbar to navigate to popular web sites (including favorites that you 
>>> add), and then use the "Save Recipe" button on the toolbar to clip recipes. 
>>> This may be a little less convenient than using the corresponding 
>>> locations for search and links in the startup browser HTML area unless you 
>>> set an application specific hotspot for these locations, since there are no 
>>> pre-existing keyboard shortcuts for navigating to the Google search field 
>>> or to the Bookmarks on the toolbar of the Paprika Recipe Manager app in 
>>> Browser view the way there are for Safari, but it only takes a few VO-arrow 
>>> key presses (or flicks if you use the Trackpad) to move between the HTML 
>>> area and these buttons on the toolbar.   If you prefer to use the "Getting 
>>> Started" startup HTML page to navigate, you can always move back to it by 
>>> using VO-Up arrow from the HTML area to navigate to the Browser's "Back" 
>>> button, VO-space until you get to the beginning, and focus moves to the 
>>> "Forward" button, then VO-Left arrow back to the (dimmed) "Back" button and 
>>> VO-Down arrow to return to the HTML area.  (Note: I had to use VO-slash to 
>>> label the four toolbar buttons to the right of the Paprika window's 
>>> "Minimize", "Close", and "Zoom" buttons.  These are "Back", "Forward", 
>>> "Bookmarks", and "Refresh". The remaining toolbar elements to the right of 
>>> these buttons are the URL address field, the "Browser - Paprika" view 
>>> identifier, the "Search" text field, and the "Save Recipe" button.)  
>>> 
>>> Here are a few detailed examples of how to clip recipes, written with new 
>>> users or those who don't yet have the Mac app in mind. Switch from the 
>>> Recipes view to the Browser view with VO-Down arrow to the "Browser" check 
>>> box and VO-Space. VO-Left arrow to the HTML content, and interact to read 
>>> the "Getting Started" instructions.
>>> 
>>> You can launch your first search from within the HTML area instead of from 
>>> the toolbar. If you have Quick Nav turned on, and you have enabled single 
>>> letter navigation under VoiceOver Utility in Commanders under the Quick Nav 
>>> tab by checking the box, you can use all the standard web navigation 
>>> shortcuts (e.g., "h" to move to the next header or "f" to move to the next 
>>> text field). So, press "h" to move through the headings for "Getting 
>>> Started", "How to clip a recipe online", and "Search for recipes". Or press 
>>> "f" to move directly to the "Google Recipe Search" text field under the 
>>> "Search for recipes" heading, then toggle Quick Nav mode off (by 
>>> simultaneously pressing the left and right arrow keys) so you can type in 
>>> the text field.  Using this fi

One more Paprika question

[Jim Gatteys]

Hi all!
I guess there is no demo version of Paprika?  Does anybody know if you can have 
multiple databases, say for example if you had books, one on cookies and one on 
bread could you store them separately?  I always liked that feature in 
Mastercook for Windows but have not found any Mac software that will allow 
this, well MacGourmet will in a sort of round about way, just like iTunes will 
let you have multiple libraries in a round about way.
Thanks,
Jim

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