Hi Chris, This brings me to another question. Can you plug in an USB full Windows keyboard and have it work on the MBA? I have one lying around here and it would be nice to have a full keyboard when using the Window side in the virtual environment.
thanks. Eileen On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: > If you need occasional access to some Windows-only app a virtual machine can > be a nice way to do it. Of course, like a real Windows machine, you'll have > to install Windows and your screen reader of choice. The only common > complaint is mapping of the caps lock and insert keys. Apparently the Mac OS > doesn't pass the caps lock through so if it is being used for something other > than making capital letters you'll need to use another key combo. Likewise > for those on laptops or using smaller external keyboards there isn't an > insert key. Check the list archives for workarounds on both of those. > > CB > > On 1/2/14 2:55 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote: >> So if I really wanted to run a program only Windows, I would have to have a >> virtual solutions program on my Mini. Most things one can do work fine on >> Mac, Right? >> >> >> >> reggie and Allegra >> >> On Jan 2, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >> >> Virtualization products like VMWare, VirtualBox and Parallels are apps which >> emulate the bare hardware of a physical PC. So, in theory, you launch one of >> those and you'll get a basic PC ready to do your bidding. Most people use >> them to load Windows on but you can load an OS that normally will run on a >> generic PC clone. The 'virtual' machine is only as accessible as the OS >> normally would be on real hardware. Of course there is some overhead so >> things won't run 100% the speed that they would on dedicated hardware, but >> for most things that isn't an issue. For example, if you had a virtual >> windows machine running Office, and you went to save a file. Office would >> pass the data to Windows to write to the disk but really the Windows code >> would be writing to what seems like a disk drive which is actually the >> virtual machine emulator which writes to a file on OSX. That little bit of >> redirection makes everything work but costs some CPU. VirtualBox is free but >> the GUI isn't accessible with Voiceover, but you can control it fully from >> the terminal by typing commands. VMWare is accessible as is but costs a few >> bucks (usually about $60 unless there is a special running). Parallels is >> not free and is also not accessible so you can ignore it. Also, it's Mac >> only while virtual machines made with VMWare can also run under VMWare >> Player on Windows and Linux. When I say accessible, that means the virtual >> machine app itself where you tell how much memory to give to the virtual PC >> and such. As previously mentioned, Windows under VMWare, for instance, will >> be just as accessible (or not) as it would be running on a real Dell box. If >> you must have every last bit of speed you can set up bootcamp which boots >> your Mac into Windows so Windows has direct access to the hardware. I >> haven't tried this but reviews I've read said that the current MacBooks make >> a nice high-end windows laptop. The downside is you have to do some setup to >> boot in either Mac or Windows 'mode' and switching from one to the other >> requires a reboot. With virtual machines they are just an app you launch, >> use and quit. So you can, for example, copy paste from your AppleMail into a >> Windows app or vice versa. Things are also a bit more contained because the >> virtual machine hard drive is just a file on the OSX side. So if you got >> some nasty Windows virus that formatted your hard drive, all it could touch >> is that virtual hard drive, not your entire Mac drive. >> >> CB >> >> On 12/29/13 4:00 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: >>> Really?! Lately what I heard the virtual apps were not accessible. That’s >>> why I did a Dualboot to Windows 7 on my Mac. >>> >>> I guess I’m going to look up Fusion. Is Parallel accessible too? >>> >>> My goal is to have Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 and a Linux or two. >>> >>> Does anyone have a link about everything about accessabilty for these >>> virtual app? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Daniel Hawkins >>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>> 4GB DDR3 >>> 500GB HDD >>> >>> Dual Boot: >>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>> >>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Technically it pretty much allows you to install any OS you want. Windows >>>> is the most widely used, but it's also useful for running linux/bsd >>>> instances. >>>> On 12/29/2013 2:32 PM, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>> Fusion is a virtualization program that will let you install and run >>>>> Windows on your Mac is completely accessible. the other one that isn't is >>>>> called parallels. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Daniel Hawkins >>>>> <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m very new to list, and still very new to screen readers and Macs. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was wondering what is VMFusion? Is a virtual program for Windows? >>>>>> >>>>>> From what I can understand, I thought emulators or virtual programs is >>>>>> not accessible? Or is there an solution? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> Daniel Hawkins >>>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>>>>> 4GB DDR3 >>>>>> 500GB HDD >>>>>> >>>>>> Dual Boot: >>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:08 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> oooo thanks a ton for these links, that's awesome. >>>>>>> Also: virtualbox is just a virtualization solution. I have 16 gb ram, >>>>>>> so I figured I'd give 4 of that to a bsd box so I could test my >>>>>>> libraries and that on BSD as well. >>>>>>> HTH: >>>>>>> On 12/29/2013 9:37 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote: >>>>>>>> What do you do with a virtual box? Curious is all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> reggie and Allegra >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 29, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Georgina Joyce <g...@gena-j.me.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/create-virtualbox-vm-from-the-command-line.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://nakkaya.com/2012/08/30/create-manage-virtualBox-vms-from-the-command-line/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gena >>>>>>>>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 02:59, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That is very true, and a good point. Unfortunately, I was never able >>>>>>>>> to find any tutorials or even manuals for getting started with the >>>>>>>>> command line interface to Virtualbox. Still, it is definitely worth >>>>>>>>> looking into. >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:38 PM, Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I thought Virtualbox was controllable through the terminal so you >>>>>>>>>> don't have to use the GUI. From the manual: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "VBoxManage is the command-line interface to VirtualBox. With it, >>>>>>>>>> you can completely control VirtualBox from the command line of your >>>>>>>>>> host operating system. VBoxManage supports all the features that the >>>>>>>>>> graphical user interface gives you access to, but it supports a lot >>>>>>>>>> more than that. It exposes really all the features of the >>>>>>>>>> virtualization engine, even those that cannot (yet) be accessed from >>>>>>>>>> the GUI." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch08.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's free so why not give it a try. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/13 2:06 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Fusion is $60 last I checked, at least for a personal license. No, >>>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is not at all accessible. Someone once posted a quick >>>>>>>>>>> tutorial on using it to set up a VM on Windows which you'd then >>>>>>>>>>> import to the Mac. Still, when I gave it a try, audio in the vm was >>>>>>>>>>> extremely low and nothing I did would bring it up. I find Fusion to >>>>>>>>>>> be better, plus, of course, the preferences and other settings are >>>>>>>>>>> accessible. >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hello: >>>>>>>>>>>> I had a quick question. I don't have the $100 something for vmware >>>>>>>>>>>> fusion, but I wanted to install BSD on my IMac. Anyone know if >>>>>>>>>>>> virtualbox is accessible, or if there are other choices? >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ty >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>>>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a >>>>>>>>>>>> fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Toaster (tm). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Take care, >>>>>>> Ty >>>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net >>>>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; 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