braille display comands on mac

[Andrew Head]

Hi all,
Just wondering, is there a list of commands to use a braille display with a 
mac? 
Kind regards,
Andrew
Sent from my 11 inch macbook air

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Re: braille display comands on mac

[Joanne Chua]

http://www.apple.com/lae/support/accessibility/vision/

If you Google it, there are numbers of result come out related to what
you looking for.

Thanks

On 26/11/2013, Andrew Head  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just wondering, is there a list of commands to use a braille display with a
> mac?
> Kind regards,
> Andrew
> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Daniel McGee]

Maybe try expanding the disclosure triangle. I have never had to do this myself 
in mail but once or maybe twice in iTunes.
To do this:
Hold down the Voiceover keys and hit the "back slash" key. This is located 
three letters from the letter L to the right.

I hope this helps.

Daniel 
On 26 Nov 2013, at 07:15, David Taylor  wrote:

> Right arrow expands them for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 26 Nov 2013, at 03:30, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe open the disclosure triangle.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook 
>>> Air and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
>>> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
>>> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
>>> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
>>> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
>>> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error 
>>> ding. I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the 
>>> mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't 
>>> get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely 
>>> off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't 
>>> immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me 
>>> and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
>>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Ray Foret Jr]

No David, I think John was asking what the right arrow key does once voiceover 
has been turned off. Truth to tell, I have not the slightest idea. All I know, 
is, that come up for me, it seems to work.



Yes. This message has been dictated entirely by my voice. I have not touched 
the keyboard one single time since I started to dictate this message; and, 
furthermore, because I am using the expanded dictation future under Mavericks, 
I have not had to restart the dictation once during this entire text entry..
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Nov 26, 2013, at 1:15 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Right arrow expands them for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 26 Nov 2013, at 03:30, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe open the disclosure triangle.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook 
>>> Air and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
>>> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
>>> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
>>> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
>>> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
>>> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error 
>>> ding. I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the 
>>> mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't 
>>> get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely 
>>> off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't 
>>> immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me 
>>> and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
>>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
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Re: book sample link on audible doesn't work

[Andrew Head]

Thanks heaps, I’ll give it go. :)
On 25 Nov 2013, at 10:43 pm, Jessica D  wrote:

> yes, it can be downloaded free at adobe.com, just perform a double click with 
> vo shift space twice quickly on the words, download flash player for mac or 
> whatever it says.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 2:14 AM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you get flash player for mac? I’ll do that that way I can use the 
>> default browser and know I can play any video. :)
>>> On 25 Nov 2013, at 3:39 pm, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It uses flash player. I don't have flash player installed on Safari, so I 
>>> can't listen to them on Safari. So if I want to listen to the samples I use 
>>> Google Chrome, which has flash built in. I haven't tried it for a few 
>>> weeks, so not sure if it's currently working, but it might be worth you 
>>> trying that. Otherwise, the mobile site works really well.
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Head  wrote:
>>> 
>>> well, let’s hope apple or audible work someting out. 
 On 24 Nov 2013, at 2:39 pm, Aser Tolentino  wrote:
 
 It worked for a while, but now I can't get it to work either. You can get 
 samples to play if you go to the mobile version of the website.
 
 Respectfully,
 Aser Tolentino, Esq.
 
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 19:27, Andrew Head  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I can’t activate the link to listen to audio book samples on audible. 
> Just wondering if anyone has also had this problem and if there is a way 
> around it or if there is some sort of update to audible that will fix 
> this?
> Kind regards,
> Andrew 
> Sent from my 11 inch macbook air
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Chris Moore]

You also need quick nag off.
Chris
On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:15 AM, David Taylor  wrote:

> Right arrow expands them for me.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 26 Nov 2013, at 03:30, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> Maybe open the disclosure triangle.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook 
>>> Air and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
>>> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
>>> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
>>> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
>>> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
>>> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error 
>>> ding. I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the 
>>> mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't 
>>> get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely 
>>> off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't 
>>> immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me 
>>> and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
>>> Anyone got any ideas?
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Latest release of Vuescan reprots "busy" all the time

[Phil Halton]

I am still having instability in the settings panes of VueScan. I cannot 
reliably change or even access all the settings. Sometimes they get garbled and 
mixed up in the order ins which they show up. For example, after the input tab 
I will often see some setting not related to input, then the next item to the 
right is the filter tab, then some other settings - all mixed up in their 
order. I can't find the setting to cause VueScan to let me scan multiple pages, 
and it opens the save dialog after scanning the first page. Things like this - 
its very unstable in the settings areas.

I tried to find a plist file for vuescan that I could delete, but no joy.

Honestly, is this screwy behavior normal, or do people find that vuescan acts 
normally for them?  Any ideas for fixing this weird unstable behavior in the 
settings tabs?

On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi Phil.
> 
> The latest build should fix the problem, has just got a message from the 
> developer. The build is from today.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 25 Nov 2013 kl. 16:13 skrev Phil Halton :
> 
>> Ann, what version are you running, and have you encountered the instability 
>> problem with the most recent V9.3.22? Actually, V9.4 just came outlast night 
>> and might be a fix, but I haven't looked at it.
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Phil,
>>> 
>>> VueScan produces clearer images than ABBYY FineReader so when FineReader 
>>> receives the images for OCR, it does a better job.
>>> 
>>> Here, we’ve had the lifetime license for VueScan for over ten years, so $79 
>>> has been well worth it.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
>>> 
 Well, I installed the previous  version (9.2.25) and everything works as 
 advertised. I was able to setup vuescan, do a scan, and have it open in 
 ABBYY FR Express.
 StillAm I correct in saying that the sole advantage of using VuesScan is 
 the ability to scan multiple pages and then OCR the file all at once? I'm 
 not sure its worth $40 since I don't scan books anymore, just the 
 occasional letter or bill.
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Re: Latest release of Vuescan reprots "busy" all the time

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

There has been two updates today. Maybe you should download the latest of them.

Best regards Annie.
Den 26 Nov 2013 kl. 17:33 skrev Phil Halton :

> I am still having instability in the settings panes of VueScan. I cannot 
> reliably change or even access all the settings. Sometimes they get garbled 
> and mixed up in the order ins which they show up. For example, after the 
> input tab I will often see some setting not related to input, then the next 
> item to the right is the filter tab, then some other settings - all mixed up 
> in their order. I can't find the setting to cause VueScan to let me scan 
> multiple pages, and it opens the save dialog after scanning the first page. 
> Things like this - its very unstable in the settings areas.
> 
> I tried to find a plist file for vuescan that I could delete, but no joy.
> 
> Honestly, is this screwy behavior normal, or do people find that vuescan acts 
> normally for them?  Any ideas for fixing this weird unstable behavior in the 
> settings tabs?
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Phil.
>> 
>> The latest build should fix the problem, has just got a message from the 
>> developer. The build is from today.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 25 Nov 2013 kl. 16:13 skrev Phil Halton :
>> 
>>> Ann, what version are you running, and have you encountered the instability 
>>> problem with the most recent V9.3.22? Actually, V9.4 just came outlast 
>>> night and might be a fix, but I haven't looked at it.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Phil,
 
 VueScan produces clearer images than ABBYY FineReader so when FineReader 
 receives the images for OCR, it does a better job.
 
 Here, we’ve had the lifetime license for VueScan for over ten years, so 
 $79 has been well worth it.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 25 Nov 2013, at 03:38, Phil Halton  wrote:
 
> Well, I installed the previous  version (9.2.25) and everything works as 
> advertised. I was able to setup vuescan, do a scan, and have it open in 
> ABBYY FR Express.
> StillAm I correct in saying that the sole advantage of using VuesScan is 
> the ability to scan multiple pages and then OCR the file all at once? I'm 
> not sure its worth $40 since I don't scan books anymore, just the 
> occasional letter or bill.
 
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Adjusting Font

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Hi All,

I’ve been trying to adjust the font in both Bean and Pages. I highlight the 
text, press command T and tab till I hear the edit field for the font size. I 
fill in the font size I want, but don’t know how to execute the process. There 
isn’t an apply button and pressing enter doesn’t seem to do anything. The 
dialog box remains open after pressing enter. Pressing escape jumps me back 
into the document without any font changes. am I missing something here?

Thanks for your help

Best of wishes,

Ibraheem

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Re: Adjusting Font

[Jessica D]

Command s to save.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I’ve been trying to adjust the font in both Bean and Pages. I highlight the 
> text, press command T and tab till I hear the edit field for the font size. I 
> fill in the font size I want, but don’t know how to execute the process. 
> There isn’t an apply button and pressing enter doesn’t seem to do anything. 
> The dialog box remains open after pressing enter. Pressing escape jumps me 
> back into the document without any font changes. am I missing something here?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Best of wishes,
> 
> Ibraheem
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Re: Adjusting Font

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Command S doesn’t seem to work. It brings the Save document dialog.

On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> Command s to save.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to adjust the font in both Bean and Pages. I highlight the 
>> text, press command T and tab till I hear the edit field for the font size. 
>> I fill in the font size I want, but don’t know how to execute the process. 
>> There isn’t an apply button and pressing enter doesn’t seem to do anything. 
>> The dialog box remains open after pressing enter. Pressing escape jumps me 
>> back into the document without any font changes. am I missing something here?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Best of wishes,
>> 
>> Ibraheem
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[Teresa Cochran]

As far as I’m aware, it has to do with the disclosure triangle being in focus. 
If nothing else works, I interact with the message info in the list and press 
VO space when VO is actually on the disclosure triangle. This works every time, 
though arrow keys seem to be working ok for me at the moment. The description 
for VO-backslash says: “toggle disclosure triangle” which would seem to be the 
most specific keystroke for this purpose.

HtH,
Teresa

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On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:25 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:

> You also need quick nag off.
> Chris
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:15 AM, David Taylor  
> wrote:
> 
>> Right arrow expands them for me.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 26 Nov 2013, at 03:30, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe open the disclosure triangle.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook 
 Air and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
 When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
 right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
 through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
 conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are 
 collapsed. When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get 
 the error ding. I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and 
 showing the mailbox list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what 
 I do I can't get right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav 
 is definitely off, and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. 
 I can't immediately see a difference between my system and hers and it 
 works for me and not for her. We're both running Mavericks.
 Anyone got any ideas?
 Thanks.
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Re: Adjusting Font

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello

Try cmd + w.

Gena
On 26 Nov 2013, at 17:40, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:

> Command S doesn’t seem to work. It brings the Save document dialog.
> 
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> Command s to save.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I’ve been trying to adjust the font in both Bean and Pages. I highlight the 
>>> text, press command T and tab till I hear the edit field for the font size. 
>>> I fill in the font size I want, but don’t know how to execute the process. 
>>> There isn’t an apply button and pressing enter doesn’t seem to do anything. 
>>> The dialog box remains open after pressing enter. Pressing escape jumps me 
>>> back into the document without any font changes. am I missing something 
>>> here?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your help
>>> 
>>> Best of wishes,
>>> 
>>> Ibraheem
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Re: Adjusting Font

[Ibraheem Fakir]

got it!
Its the return key. Though I thought I high lighted the entire document with 
command A, a notification dialog floating on the screen didn’t allow me to do 
so. These notifications get in the way of everything :).

On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> Command s to save.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I’ve been trying to adjust the font in both Bean and Pages. I highlight the 
>> text, press command T and tab till I hear the edit field for the font size. 
>> I fill in the font size I want, but don’t know how to execute the process. 
>> There isn’t an apply button and pressing enter doesn’t seem to do anything. 
>> The dialog box remains open after pressing enter. Pressing escape jumps me 
>> back into the document without any font changes. am I missing something here?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Best of wishes,
>> 
>> Ibraheem
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Re: Can't Expand Conversations in Mail

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi Jonathan,

Simply hold down the command key and tap the left or right arrow a couple of 
times. For some reason, this makes the expansion start working again.

Robert Carter

 
On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:27 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

> Hi everyone, I'm stumped by an issue my partner is having on her Macbook Air 
> and wonder if anyone can tell me what I'm missing?
> When I'm in a list of email messages grouped by conversation, pressing 
> right-arrow on my Air expands that conversation and lets me down-arrow 
> through the individual messages. But on my partner's computer, group by 
> conversation is selected in the View Menu, and conversations are collapsed. 
> When we press right-arrow to expand the conversation, we get the error ding. 
> I've tried enabling and disabling the toolbar, hiding and showing the mailbox 
> list, and all kinds of other stuff, but no matter what I do I can't get 
> right-arrow to expand the conversations. Yes, quick-nav is definitely off, 
> and I've tried both interacting with the table and not. I can't immediately 
> see a difference between my system and hers and it works for me and not for 
> her. We're both running Mavericks.
> Anyone got any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
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Re: Say Indentation

[David Tingler]

Thanks. I will play around with these some more.  There may not be a workable 
solution but, I will keep looking.


On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> there

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Launch Bar Hide Help

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

Has anyone who has installed the latest version of Launch Bar (5.6.1), had 
issues with trying to hide the actual app?
I cannot get the application to hide itself after having enabled the auto-hide 
feature within the preferences.
Does anyone have suggestions?

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Re: VMWare questions

[Caitlyn furness]

Hi alex,
I’m going to take a crack at some of your questions.

For your problem with vo taking over, and also for some of the key strokes not 
being recognized, you can either turn off vo while in the virtual machine or go 
into the vm prefs and then find the tab called keyboard, I think.  In there, 
there is a check box which tells the vm to ignore all mac osx commands. For 
myself, once I checked that little box, the guest operating system acted better!

The volume issue is probably windows volume and you can either turn up your mac 
or go into control panel and turn up the volume in the other OS.

hth,
Caitlyn

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> Hi all,
> I finally got VMWare Fusion running! I guess I complained enough, because 
> they called me back within an hour, had me set up a remote access program, 
> and did everything for me.  I'm still not overly impressed with their 
> support, but at least they fixed this.
> 
> Now, though, I have some questions. This is on a Macbook Air with 4gb of ram 
> (total, not for the vm only). I will set up Windows on my Mini soon, but want 
> to iron everything out on the Macbook first since my Mini is my primary 
> machine.
> 
> 1. According to Fusion's preferences, ctrl-cmd should toggle keyboard/mouse 
> control between Windows and Mac, but that does not always seem to be the 
> case. Voiceover usually grabs keystrokes, almost randomly at times, and the 
> caps lock modifier does not work at all. In addition, keyboard commander 
> keystrokes are grabbed, so windows-b executes my battery script instead of 
> jumping to the Task Bar. This, of course, means I cannot reliably control 
> Windows, and cannot access the NVDA menus.
> 
> 2. The default behavior for closing Fusion is to suspend open VMs. Is that 
> okay, or is it recommended that I shut them down instead?
> 
> 3. Windows seems quiet relative to OS10. Is there a way to turn it up? It may 
> well be Windows' volume, I haven't managed to check yet (see #1).
> 
> Thank you in advance, and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes 
> on. As I said, I really want to nail down any possible problems before trying 
> this out on my main machine. However, I am demoing Windows to a client 
> tomorrow, using the Macbook, so it would be nice to have better control over 
> Windows before then. (Yeah, I put this one off, but in my defense I never 
> expected so much trouble with VMWare).
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Will Safari be continuing support for Mountain Lion for a while yet?

[Matthew Dyer]

Hi,



Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Daniel McGee  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, I know 10.9 Mavericks is out and that It has the latest version of 
> Safari which is 7 on the new OS. However, I am still using Mountain Lion and 
> am going to stick with this previous version for a while yet. I have my 
> reasons for this.
> 
> What I'd like to know is that after a newer OS update comes out, will the 
> version of Safari for Mountain Lion which currently as of this writing stands 
> at 6.1 be the last version or as I am hoping does Apple continue moving 
> Safari forward on older OS's for a while before dropping them.
> 
> I have my reasons for not liking the new changes in the area of Voiceover and 
> am thinking next time I like an update to Safari then I'll just stick with 
> that version. Yes I'd rather use a version that is fully functional and 
> working with Voiceover rather than features added which I'm sure are bugs but 
> at times I think I'd rather sacrifice usability to security. If you know what 
> I mean in the ways of updates.
> 
> I hope people understand this and respect where I am coming from.
> 
> Looking forward to learning the answer.
> 
> p.s.
> Would be great to know as well for those who linger on older Mac operating 
> systems do you still recieve updates and if so what kind of updates are they?
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Re: Another scan possibility.

[John Panarese]

   OK, there is several versions of this product.  Any idea which one I should 
try?  There are professional, personal and additional ones.


Take Care

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APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION

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MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT




On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:

> Sorry about being vague yesterday. I was thinking of DEVONthink but I did not 
> know how to spell it. There is a Take Control book on the product that came 
> out at the same time as Take Control of Your Paperless Office. Both books 
> were by the same author and shortly after they came out I got DEVONthink as a 
> demo and found the scanning worked but was confused as to how to actually 
> organize things. There have been several releases since. Also, I believe it 
> is one of the products that you can get a discount for if you are a 
> tidbits.com paid subscriber.
> 
> Can you let the list and myself know how  well your trial with this works?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> jon.c.c...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:
> 
>>   How do you get a copy of this?
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
>>> recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
>>> includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents 
>>> as they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the 
>>> Take Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time 
>>> the only version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think 
>>> now it is included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 
>>> 30 day demo. But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks 
>>> for us. 
>>> 
>>> Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder scanners 
>>> that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all that Snaiml 
>>> mail in almost the same time as a sighted person!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Will Safari be continuing support for Mountain Lion for a while yet?

[Daniel McGee]

Hi Matthew, you just said "Hi." So, unless you had more information to tell. I 
didn't get it or if you indeed provided more information it didn't come through.

Thanks

Daniel


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> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 5:31 PM, Daniel McGee  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I know 10.9 Mavericks is out and that It has the latest version of 
>> Safari which is 7 on the new OS. However, I am still using Mountain Lion and 
>> am going to stick with this previous version for a while yet. I have my 
>> reasons for this.
>> 
>> What I'd like to know is that after a newer OS update comes out, will the 
>> version of Safari for Mountain Lion which currently as of this writing 
>> stands at 6.1 be the last version or as I am hoping does Apple continue 
>> moving Safari forward on older OS's for a while before dropping them.
>> 
>> I have my reasons for not liking the new changes in the area of Voiceover 
>> and am thinking next time I like an update to Safari then I'll just stick 
>> with that version. Yes I'd rather use a version that is fully functional and 
>> working with Voiceover rather than features added which I'm sure are bugs 
>> but at times I think I'd rather sacrifice usability to security. If you know 
>> what I mean in the ways of updates.
>> 
>> I hope people understand this and respect where I am coming from.
>> 
>> Looking forward to learning the answer.
>> 
>> p.s.
>> Would be great to know as well for those who linger on older Mac operating 
>> systems do you still recieve updates and if so what kind of updates are they?
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>> older machine running s.l and still gets updates from time to time. HTH
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Re: Another scan possibility.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I can still not figure out what you are talking about. Please forgive me and 
give me a link.

Best regards Annie.
Den 26 Nov 2013 kl. 21:25 skrev John Panarese :

>OK, there is several versions of this product.  Any idea which one I 
> should try?  There are professional, personal and additional ones.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
>> Sorry about being vague yesterday. I was thinking of DEVONthink but I did 
>> not know how to spell it. There is a Take Control book on the product that 
>> came out at the same time as Take Control of Your Paperless Office. Both 
>> books were by the same author and shortly after they came out I got 
>> DEVONthink as a demo and found the scanning worked but was confused as to 
>> how to actually organize things. There have been several releases since. 
>> Also, I believe it is one of the products that you can get a discount for if 
>> you are a tidbits.com paid subscriber.
>> 
>> Can you let the list and myself know how  well your trial with this works?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> jon.c.c...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 1:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> 
>>>   How do you get a copy of this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:57 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 A couple years back I looked a little at a document organization package 
 recommended by Tidbits.com (actually I think they sponser Tidbis tooo). It 
 includes a copy of ABBY Fine Reader as a OCR engine and indexes documents 
 as they are imported into the database. I never took the time to read the 
 Take Control of and could not fully appreciate the process. At that time 
 the only version with OCR was the professional priced around $150 I think 
 now it is included in more of their products. I doubt I could get another 
 30 day demo. But perhahsp we should see if this is a solution that wourks 
 for us. 
 
 Tidbits has also had great comments about some of the sheet feeder 
 scanners that can process 12 pages a minute. Imagine going through all 
 that Snaiml mail in almost the same time as a sighted person!
 
 
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Discovered weird bug in Numbers

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
I wanted to tell you all about the latest bug I found. I ended up calling that 
877 number again. They are never going to want to talk to me since I keep 
finding stuff wrong. 

We also discovered a workaround, and this is the reason I am writing this. If 
you want to export files from numbers into something else like PDF or Excel 
files, you will find out that voiceover does not tell you what you are on. It 
keeps saying unknown. So when you want to choose the type of file you want to 
export two, you need to interact with it to find out which one you landed on. I 
didn't know this and kept getting PDF files when I wanted Excel files.
Regards,
Gigi

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Re: Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac and iOS on Sale today (November 24, 2013)

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thanks for posting this! I purchased all three apps.
On Nov 25, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Esther  wrote:

> 
> Hi Jessica and Others,
> 
> Here are the download links for Paprika Recipe Manager for the iPhone (and 
> iPod Touch), iPad, and Mac.  All theses apps are on sale in celebration for 
> (U.S.) Thanksgiving, so they should be good through at least Thanksgiving 
> Day, and maybe through next weekend.  I briefly panicked when an attempt to 
> check the dates of the sale by Googling their blog turned up an old entry 
> from last year, when the sale started just around Thanksgiving and lasted 
> through the Sunday.  Had me thinking that these deals would expire last 
> night!.  I've corrected the link to the Mac App Store  given in my first 
> post (and under the AppleVis pp Deal listings) so that this will work 
> internationally. Also note that the latest version of the iOS apps run on 
> iOS 7.  If you are still running iOS 6 (or earlier), you can purchase the 
> iOS apps using iTunes on your computer, then when you try to download the 
> app on your iOS device, you'll get the latest version that is compatible 
> with your operating system version, and it will be accessible since this 
> app has been supporting VoiceOver users for a while.
> 
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for iPhone ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager-for/id406732590?mt=8
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for iPad ($2.99, usually lists for $4.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id392408028?mt=8
> • Paprika Recipe Manager for Mac ($9.99, usually lists for $19.99) by 
> Hindsight Labs, LLC
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/paprika-recipe-manager/id451907568?mt=12
> 
> There's also an Android app that is on sale, but that only supports 
> English, while the iOS apps support English, Bokmål, Norwegian, Chinese, 
> Czech, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Hungarian, Italian, 
> Japanese, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, and Swedish, as well as supporting a 
> host of international recipe sites.
> 
> For more information, check Paprika's Support web page at:
> https://paprikaapp.zendesk.com/home
> 
> I'll also give direct links to the detailed user guides you can find at 
> that support web page:
> • Paprika iPhone user guide:
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/iphone/
> • Paprika iPad user guide
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/ipad/
> • Paprika Mac user guide:
> http://www.paprikaapp.com/help/mac/
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 2:41:08 AM UTC-10, Jessica D wrote:
>> 
>> can i get download links for both versions please? 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Esther wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Alex, Paprika is much better than Pepperplate, and the devs rewrote this 
>> for VoiceOver accessibility in an extremely responsive fashion.  There's a 
>> big difference between an app that just works with VoiceOver, and one where 
>> they rewrote the interface in response to user requests. Also, this app 
>> does much more  -- I know you don't need to use this for meal scheduling or 
>> nutrition, or to automatically have your shopping lists with you, but it 
>> all syncs together so that you do.  I originally recommended this to 
>> someone of the viphone list who wanted to import his own recipes, and who 
>> didn't like any of the alternatives. 
>>> 
>>> You can read my archived posts: 
>>> • Describing the Mac app on the MacVisionaries list 
>>> 
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg80606.html
>>  
>>> • Describing why I like the  iOS app on the Mac-Access List 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg14524.html
>>>  
>>> • Describing Recipe importing of the ViPhone list 
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg33281.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The only thing is that I'm late posting this.  This app is terrific and 
>> rarely goes on sale. I have both the Mac and iOS versions.  If in doubt, 
>> get the iPhone version, but I really like having both, because importing is 
>> easier on the Mac. 
>>> 
>>> I think this offer may expire soon, though. 
>>> 
>>> Esther 
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Scanning as tif files on the mac.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Anne and all.

Thank you for your settings. I have got vuescan setup correct. Tried to make a 
tif file and recognize with finereader 11, but I will have to admit that the 
quality is better if I use finereader 11 both for scanning and recognizing. Now 
I am wondering why? Could there be other settings that could help, or should I 
give up, and install windows in bootcamp on my mothers computer.

Cheers Annie.
Den 24 Nov 2013 kl. 09:21 skrev Anne Robertson :

> Hello Annie,
> 
> Here is my set up guide for VueScan to work with ABBYY FineReader.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> Configuring VueScan
> 
> 1) Open VueScan and read carefully the initial message which informs you as 
> to whether your scanner has been recognised. If it has, carry on, otherwise 
> follow VueScan's instructions.
> 
> 2) Click on "Close" in the bottom right-hand corner, to get away from the 
> Startup tips.
> 
> 3) Using the Item Chooser menu (VO-I), press L. If you find Less, press 
> VO-space bar twice. This minimises the options visible. Otherwise, press Esc 
> to close the Item Chooser again. 
> 
> 4) Beginning at the top left, select "Input" and keep navigating to the right.
> 4.1) Navigate to Task and select "Scan to file" in the popup menu.
> 4.2) Source = your scanner.
> 4.3) Media = "Text".
> 4.4) Multi page should normally be checked.
> 4.5) Preview resolution = 300 dpi.
> 4.6) Scan resolution = 300 dpi.
> 
> Leave other options at their default values.
> 
> 5) Return to the top left and select tab 5, Output.
> 5.1) Continue navigating right to "Default folder": enter the name of the 
> folder where you want the TIFF file to be saved. For example: 
> "/Users/fred/Documents/Scans". (Don't forget to create this folder before 
> doing any scanning!)
> The @ button opens a File Browser if you want to navigate rather than type in 
> the folder name.
> 5.2) Navigate right as far as TIFF file, and check it.
> 5.3) TIFF file name: enter the name of the file that will receive the TIFF 
> image. For example: "Letter Image+" (the + tells VueScan to replace the + 
> with a number and increment it for each new scan).
> 5.4) TIFF multipage: check if you wish to scan more than one page into a 
> document.
> 5.5) Navigate right as far as JPG file, and uncheck it.
> Leave other options at their default values.
> 
> 6) Return to the top left and select tab 6, Preferences.
> 6.1) Language = "Default". (N.B. This sets the interface language.)
> 6.2) Navigate right as far as Viewer, and use the popup menu to choose "ABBYY 
> FineReader" (if it isn't available, leave this set to Default).
> 6.3) Move on to External editor and uncheck it.
> 
> Congratulations! You have now configured VueScan. Quit VueScan so that your 
> changes are saved.
> 
> Scan one page to create a TIFF file then use Command-i on that file to set it 
> to always open with ABBYY FineReader.
> 
> Once VueScan has been configured, the only changes you are likely to want to 
> make are between single- and multi-page scanning, and the filename to which 
> the scans are sent.
> 
> Abbyy FineREader will open automatically and there is no configuring to be 
> done with that.
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Re: Scanning as tif files on the mac.

[Cheryl Homiak]

This seems kind of strange to me. I scan to tiff files all the time with 
vuescan and have them converted with Abbyy Finereader Express and they are 
fine. I scan mail and whole books. But I don't know what you would do to get 
better results.

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On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi Anne and all.
> 
> Thank you for your settings. I have got vuescan setup correct. Tried to make 
> a tif file and recognize with finereader 11, but I will have to admit that 
> the quality is better if I use finereader 11 both for scanning and 
> recognizing. Now I am wondering why? Could there be other settings that could 
> help, or should I give up, and install windows in bootcamp on my mothers 
> computer.
> 
> Cheers Annie.
> Den 24 Nov 2013 kl. 09:21 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
>> Hello Annie,
>> 
>> Here is my set up guide for VueScan to work with ABBYY FineReader.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> Configuring VueScan
>> 
>> 1) Open VueScan and read carefully the initial message which informs you as 
>> to whether your scanner has been recognised. If it has, carry on, otherwise 
>> follow VueScan's instructions.
>> 
>> 2) Click on "Close" in the bottom right-hand corner, to get away from the 
>> Startup tips.
>> 
>> 3) Using the Item Chooser menu (VO-I), press L. If you find Less, press 
>> VO-space bar twice. This minimises the options visible. Otherwise, press Esc 
>> to close the Item Chooser again. 
>> 
>> 4) Beginning at the top left, select "Input" and keep navigating to the 
>> right.
>> 4.1) Navigate to Task and select "Scan to file" in the popup menu.
>> 4.2) Source = your scanner.
>> 4.3) Media = "Text".
>> 4.4) Multi page should normally be checked.
>> 4.5) Preview resolution = 300 dpi.
>> 4.6) Scan resolution = 300 dpi.
>> 
>> Leave other options at their default values.
>> 
>> 5) Return to the top left and select tab 5, Output.
>> 5.1) Continue navigating right to "Default folder": enter the name of the 
>> folder where you want the TIFF file to be saved. For example: 
>> "/Users/fred/Documents/Scans". (Don't forget to create this folder before 
>> doing any scanning!)
>> The @ button opens a File Browser if you want to navigate rather than type 
>> in the folder name.
>> 5.2) Navigate right as far as TIFF file, and check it.
>> 5.3) TIFF file name: enter the name of the file that will receive the TIFF 
>> image. For example: "Letter Image+" (the + tells VueScan to replace the + 
>> with a number and increment it for each new scan).
>> 5.4) TIFF multipage: check if you wish to scan more than one page into a 
>> document.
>> 5.5) Navigate right as far as JPG file, and uncheck it.
>> Leave other options at their default values.
>> 
>> 6) Return to the top left and select tab 6, Preferences.
>> 6.1) Language = "Default". (N.B. This sets the interface language.)
>> 6.2) Navigate right as far as Viewer, and use the popup menu to choose 
>> "ABBYY FineReader" (if it isn't available, leave this set to Default).
>> 6.3) Move on to External editor and uncheck it.
>> 
>> Congratulations! You have now configured VueScan. Quit VueScan so that your 
>> changes are saved.
>> 
>> Scan one page to create a TIFF file then use Command-i on that file to set 
>> it to always open with ABBYY FineReader.
>> 
>> Once VueScan has been configured, the only changes you are likely to want to 
>> make are between single- and multi-page scanning, and the filename to which 
>> the scans are sent.
>> 
>> Abbyy FineREader will open automatically and there is no configuring to be 
>> done with that.
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Anyone know of a bluetooth earpiece that works with Downcast

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I just bought a Plantronics Bluetooth 3.0 Earpiece from Best Buy, as the box 
said it worked with streaming audio and video. So of course, I start using it 
with downcast, and just like my two year old bluetooth earpiece the audio from 
downcast doesn't work very well as it cuts in and out. I have noticed that when 
I am on my home network it doesn't cut out as much, but when I am outside it is 
awful, and I primarily plan to use it outside. Does anyone know of a bluetooth 
earpiece that works well with playing downcast audio? I tried it with podcasts 
I was streaming as well as downloaded and they both cut out. Thanks,

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Follow-up On s/electing Text With a braille Display

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

A few weeks ago, some of us had a discussion about selecting text with a 
Braille display. well, I have created keystrokes in VO Utility, Braille to 
accomplish this. There are two items in the commands menu, “select text” and 
“select text in Voiceover” which pretty much cover everything. You just have to 
make sure you can move to the next rotor category (character, word, line, 
sentence, or paragraph) and then use the “select text” command. I’m not sure of 
the scope of “select text in Voiceover.” For all intents and purposes, except 
for very large documents, I’d assume it works very similarly to “selec@t all”.

HtH,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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Re: Follow-up On selecting Text With a braille Display

[Teresa Cochran]

Just fixing a typo in the subject. Apologies.

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Nov 26, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> A few weeks ago, some of us had a discussion about selecting text with a 
> Braille display. well, I have created keystrokes in VO Utility, Braille to 
> accomplish this. There are two items in the commands menu, “select text” and 
> “select text in Voiceover” which pretty much cover everything. You just have 
> to make sure you can move to the next rotor category (character, word, line, 
> sentence, or paragraph) and then use the “select text” command. I’m not sure 
> of the scope of “select text in Voiceover.” For all intents and purposes, 
> except for very large documents, I’d assume it works very similarly to 
> “selec@t all”.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 

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safari malfunctioning?

[eric oyen]

hello all.
has anyone encountered this problem yet?
the problem: safari refuses to load a page after pressing the login button on a 
username/password entry point. it just sits there. I have started seeing this 
on several sites today, including BARD. I have even quit and restarted the 
browser. also tried webkit (Safari development version) and it does the same 
thing.

ANy clues here or am I beating my head against a wall here?

-eric

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Re: VMWare questions

[Alex Hall]

thank you, that keyboard setting does seem to help. I have noticed my VM 
running at quite a lag, half a second to a second, which really messes up 
gameplay. It doesn't always happen, but it is enough that audio games are 
nearly unusable. I gave Windows one core and 3gb of ram, so it should be quite 
happy. How odd! If anyone has seen this, I'd greatly appreciate a fix. To be 
honest, the whole point of this  setup on my personal machine is gaming, so if 
I can't use it for that, then I'm stuck with Bootcamp again.
On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Caitlyn furness  wrote:

> Hi alex,
> I’m going to take a crack at some of your questions.
> 
> For your problem with vo taking over, and also for some of the key strokes 
> not being recognized, you can either turn off vo while in the virtual machine 
> or go into the vm prefs and then find the tab called keyboard, I think.  In 
> there, there is a check box which tells the vm to ignore all mac osx 
> commands. For myself, once I checked that little box, the guest operating 
> system acted better!
> 
> The volume issue is probably windows volume and you can either turn up your 
> mac or go into control panel and turn up the volume in the other OS.
> 
> hth,
> Caitlyn
> 
> On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I finally got VMWare Fusion running! I guess I complained enough, because 
>> they called me back within an hour, had me set up a remote access program, 
>> and did everything for me.  I'm still not overly impressed with their 
>> support, but at least they fixed this.
>> 
>> Now, though, I have some questions. This is on a Macbook Air with 4gb of ram 
>> (total, not for the vm only). I will set up Windows on my Mini soon, but 
>> want to iron everything out on the Macbook first since my Mini is my primary 
>> machine.
>> 
>> 1. According to Fusion's preferences, ctrl-cmd should toggle keyboard/mouse 
>> control between Windows and Mac, but that does not always seem to be the 
>> case. Voiceover usually grabs keystrokes, almost randomly at times, and the 
>> caps lock modifier does not work at all. In addition, keyboard commander 
>> keystrokes are grabbed, so windows-b executes my battery script instead of 
>> jumping to the Task Bar. This, of course, means I cannot reliably control 
>> Windows, and cannot access the NVDA menus.
>> 
>> 2. The default behavior for closing Fusion is to suspend open VMs. Is that 
>> okay, or is it recommended that I shut them down instead?
>> 
>> 3. Windows seems quiet relative to OS10. Is there a way to turn it up? It 
>> may well be Windows' volume, I haven't managed to check yet (see #1).
>> 
>> Thank you in advance, and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes 
>> on. As I said, I really want to nail down any possible problems before 
>> trying this out on my main machine. However, I am demoing Windows to a 
>> client tomorrow, using the Macbook, so it would be nice to have better 
>> control over Windows before then. (Yeah, I put this one off, but in my 
>> defense I never expected so much trouble with VMWare).
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: soft/sip phones for mac

[arodenbeck]

I've always liked x-lite
, and there is a mac version on their website. 
http://www.counterpath.com/x-lite.html

On Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:30:32 PM UTC-5, Jonathan Candler wrote:
>
> Hi all. I was just wondering, is there any soft/sip phone software for 
> mac? I found a couple on the app store, but not accessible with VO. The 
> reason is is that I’m setting up a VPX voip server on my linux server and I 
> would like a way that I can communicate with users on my mac rather than on 
> my server… all though I think I might install one on my server just to be 
> safe. so does anyone know of any soft phone software for mac? Thanks.

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Re: VMWare questions

[Anouk Radix]

Hello, 
also, caps lock does not seem to work properly in fusion for me either. I 
mostly try to use insert. I know the map does not have that key by default but 
within the vmware prefs you can remap another key to act as insert key (for 
example this one 1
Greetings, Anouk,
On 27 Nov 2013, at 06:03, Alex Hall  wrote:

> thank you, that keyboard setting does seem to help. I have noticed my VM 
> running at quite a lag, half a second to a second, which really messes up 
> gameplay. It doesn't always happen, but it is enough that audio games are 
> nearly unusable. I gave Windows one core and 3gb of ram, so it should be 
> quite happy. How odd! If anyone has seen this, I'd greatly appreciate a fix. 
> To be honest, the whole point of this  setup on my personal machine is 
> gaming, so if I can't use it for that, then I'm stuck with Bootcamp again.
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Caitlyn furness  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi alex,
>> I’m going to take a crack at some of your questions.
>> 
>> For your problem with vo taking over, and also for some of the key strokes 
>> not being recognized, you can either turn off vo while in the virtual 
>> machine or go into the vm prefs and then find the tab called keyboard, I 
>> think.  In there, there is a check box which tells the vm to ignore all mac 
>> osx commands. For myself, once I checked that little box, the guest 
>> operating system acted better!
>> 
>> The volume issue is probably windows volume and you can either turn up your 
>> mac or go into control panel and turn up the volume in the other OS.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I finally got VMWare Fusion running! I guess I complained enough, because 
>>> they called me back within an hour, had me set up a remote access program, 
>>> and did everything for me.  I'm still not overly impressed with their 
>>> support, but at least they fixed this.
>>> 
>>> Now, though, I have some questions. This is on a Macbook Air with 4gb of 
>>> ram (total, not for the vm only). I will set up Windows on my Mini soon, 
>>> but want to iron everything out on the Macbook first since my Mini is my 
>>> primary machine.
>>> 
>>> 1. According to Fusion's preferences, ctrl-cmd should toggle keyboard/mouse 
>>> control between Windows and Mac, but that does not always seem to be the 
>>> case. Voiceover usually grabs keystrokes, almost randomly at times, and the 
>>> caps lock modifier does not work at all. In addition, keyboard commander 
>>> keystrokes are grabbed, so windows-b executes my battery script instead of 
>>> jumping to the Task Bar. This, of course, means I cannot reliably control 
>>> Windows, and cannot access the NVDA menus.
>>> 
>>> 2. The default behavior for closing Fusion is to suspend open VMs. Is that 
>>> okay, or is it recommended that I shut them down instead?
>>> 
>>> 3. Windows seems quiet relative to OS10. Is there a way to turn it up? It 
>>> may well be Windows' volume, I haven't managed to check yet (see #1).
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance, and I am sure I will have more questions as time goes 
>>> on. As I said, I really want to nail down any possible problems before 
>>> trying this out on my main machine. However, I am demoing Windows to a 
>>> client tomorrow, using the Macbook, so it would be nice to have better 
>>> control over Windows before then. (Yeah, I put this one off, but in my 
>>> defense I never expected so much trouble with VMWare).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Key repeating

[Angus MacKinnon]

I just upgraded my new 27 inch iMac to Mabravix. Now VO seems to get stuck on 
anything when Navigating without CMD + Arrow (for example). Anyone know why? 
Thank you.

Angus MacKinnon
Written using a 27 inch iMac

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Re: Discovered weird bug in Numbers

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Gigi,

This is exactly the same bug as in Pages. I reported it to Accessibility a few 
weeks ago. You can also get it to work if you just jump to the last item in the 
dialogue box instead of checking that the correct format is selected.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Nov 2013, at 23:16, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I wanted to tell you all about the latest bug I found. I ended up calling 
> that 877 number again. They are never going to want to talk to me since I 
> keep finding stuff wrong. 
> 
> We also discovered a workaround, and this is the reason I am writing this. If 
> you want to export files from numbers into something else like PDF or Excel 
> files, you will find out that voiceover does not tell you what you are on. It 
> keeps saying unknown. So when you want to choose the type of file you want to 
> export two, you need to interact with it to find out which one you landed on. 
> I didn't know this and kept getting PDF files when I wanted Excel files.
> Regards,
> Gigi
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