Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[Chris H]

Unless I am misunderstanding I can't see this going to work. VoiceOver 
uses different voices on both iOS and Mac. So if they are going to 
implement this on the mac then it will have to work across macs only. 
VoiceOver settings are already synced to iCloud as part of documents and 
data. In my experience when restoring my iPhone 4s from an iCloud backup 
made on the iPhone 4, all my VoiceOver settings came across except for 
the voice, but that's a different matter altogether.


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On 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons wrote:

Dear Apple Accessibility Team,

With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, it's 
surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver users own 
multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being able to sync 
VoiceOver preferences across all their devices.

Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no doubt 
a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, requiring a 
user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, it also seems to 
have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, at least in my 
experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver preferences to a third party 
syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does not seem to work smoothly. It 
doesn't seem to export or import my pronunciation and keyboard commander 
preferences, for example.

iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer 
seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, 
without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could offer 
syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and iOS devices 
so far as the same preferences were applicable.

I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and OS X.

Thank you for all your great work.

Kind regards,
Nic



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Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

I’ve just been editing a fairly long RTF document with TextEdit, and it works 
fine as long as it is set to Wrap to Window. In TextEdit, press Cmd-Shift-w to 
switch between Wrap to Page and Wrap to Window.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 30 Oct 2013, at 23:03, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Dear Anne,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> "I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always 
> interact with the text and Find commands work correctly"
> Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't 
> think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + 
> arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use 
> any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to sound 
> panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one would 
> of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old but it 
> used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on the 
> internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming 
> impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run 
> mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed 
> Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in 
> TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or 
> deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be able 
> to deal with a variety of existing formats. 
> Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you 
> would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select 
> text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or are 
> there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? 
> 
> Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes.
> 
> With best wishes
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
> 
>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates]
>> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update]
>> Disk Maker X [1 Update]
>> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update]
>> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 
>> Updates]
>> Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates]
>> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates]
>> Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates]
>>  The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 30 06:34PM  
>> 
>> Hello All.
>>  
>> I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the 
>> Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar.
>>  
>> At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo Down 
>> arrow which got me into my list of events.
>>  
>> Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running.
>>  
>> I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over 
>> may not have any.
>>  
>> Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess 
>> work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it.
>>  
>> Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of you 
>> who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean.
>>  
>> Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows 
>> you could do insert T for the title of application or document.
>>  
>> I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless 
>> something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in 
>> due course.
>> I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>  
>> Daniela Rubio  Oct 30 07:37PM +0100  
>> 
>> Hi!
>> To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit 
>> VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys.
>> Best
>>  
>>  Distinguished Educator
>> iPhone: +34662328507
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn  Oct 30 01:28PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing 
>> your frustration. Note the following when in Day View:
>>  
>> 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and 
>> Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for today’s 
>> events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into and the 
>> other is the more editable List of Events Table.
>>  
>> 2. When you Interact with the List of events Table, then, contrary to my 
>> last post about the Calendar app, you are able to edit/delete events easily. 
>> To edit the event, simply navigate to it then press cmd-i (Get Info) or 
>> cmd-e (Edit Event) which, by the way, appear to bring up the same window. To 
>> delete the event, navigate to it then press the Delete key and follow the 
>> prompt. W

Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Daniela,

I don’t know why this isn’t working for you. With it set to Wrap to Window, it 
all works fine for me.

Cheers,

Anne


On 30 Oct 2013, at 23:10, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> What happens to me, is that I can work correctly with textedit on page one, 
> but when I go to page 2, VoiceOver won’t read with the regular commands.
> What can we do about? I already unchecked the page wrap.
> Thanks!
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
>  Distinguished Educator
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> El 30/10/2013, a las 23:03, Andrew Lamanche  
> escribió:
> 
>> Dear Anne,
>> 
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> "I’m not having your problems with TextEdit under Mavericks. I always 
>> interact with the text and Find commands work correctly"
>> Anne, thank you for responding. Maybe it has to do with my setup but I can't 
>> think what may be different. When I interact with the text, I can use vo + 
>> arrows to read the text and vo+shift + arrows to spell words but I can't use 
>> any of the editing commands like highlighting or deleting. I'm sorry to 
>> sound panicky but these rtf files are work-related and I got anxious as one 
>> would of course. The mac computer on which I have installed maverick is old 
>> but it used to run Mountain Lion successfully. I did an extensive search on 
>> the internet as regards which macs would run Maverick and the overwhelming 
>> impression I got from all the comments was that if one's computer could run 
>> mountain lion it should also run Maverick. That's why I have installed 
>> Maverick. I guess I just have to accept that I won't be able to edit rtf in 
>> TextEdit nor iText express now. Do you understand why Pages won't open or 
>> deal with rtf files? I thought Pages was a word processor that should be 
>> able to deal with a variety of existing formats. 
>> Also, Anne, when you interact with the text in TextEdit, I presume that you 
>> would interact by the usual way of vo+shift+down arrow. Can you then select 
>> text by using for instance shift+option + down arrow to select a line? Or 
>> are there different key strokes to select and manipulate text? 
>> 
>> Thank you for the time you took to respond to my woes.
>> 
>> With best wishes
>> 
>> Andrew
>> 
>> On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:10, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>> 
>>>   Today's Topic Summary
>>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>>> 
>>> The Calendar is weird on the Mac. [6 Updates]
>>> Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts [1 Update]
>>> Disk Maker X [1 Update]
>>> Converting outlook express mail to apple mail. [1 Update]
>>> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [8 
>>> Updates]
>>> Mac Calender (Openning Events) [3 Updates]
>>> Help with OS 10.9, VO and Navigating Website with Frames [2 Updates]
>>> Stopping VO Speech [2 Updates]
>>>  The Calendar is weird on the Mac.
>>> Kawal Gucukoglu  Oct 30 06:34PM  
>>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>>  
>>> I had a notification in my calendar and after closing it in the 
>>> Notifications on my Mac, I needed to edit an appointment in my Calendar.
>>>  
>>> At first I could not navigate the days. So I decided to go down with vo 
>>> Down arrow which got me into my list of events.
>>>  
>>> Does anyone know how to navigate the calendar as I have day view running.
>>>  
>>> I wish Voice Over would tell you list of short cut keys although Voice Over 
>>> may not have any.
>>>  
>>> Once I got the hang of checking my list of events, the rest of it was guess 
>>> work. It wasn’t difficult but one will have to get use to it.
>>>  
>>> Just before I go, one thing has always bugged me on the Mac but those of 
>>> you who have used Jaws in a windows environment will understand what I mean.
>>>  
>>> Can one know the title of document of window or application? As in Windows 
>>> you could do insert T for the title of application or document.
>>>  
>>> I am now not putting Windows back on my Mac as it is too much work. Unless 
>>> something bad happens as I’ve decided to get Sarah for my scanning needs in 
>>> due course.
>>> I’ve been using the Mac since 2010 and now I’m feeling comfortable with it.
>>>  
>>> Kawal.
>>>  
>>> Daniela Rubio  Oct 30 07:37PM +0100  
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> To know the title of an app, hit VO+f1. To know the title of a window, hit 
>>> VO+f2. This, understanding that your function keys work as standard keys.
>>> Best
>>>  
>>>  Distinguished Educator
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Tim Kilburn  Oct 30 01:28PM -0600  
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I guess I must be used to the Calendar on the Mac as I’m not experiencing 
>>> your frustration. Note the following when in Day View:
>>>  
>>> 1. If you navigate around the screen, you’ll have Previous Day, Today and 
>>> Next Day buttons as well as the current month grid and two areas for 
>>> today’s events. One is sort of a summary thing that you can drill down into 
>>> and the other is the more editable List of Events Table.
>>>  
>>> 2. When you Interact with the List of e

App to copy CDs on mac

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello!
One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iphone: +34662328507



Daniela Rubio T
 Distinguished Educator
iPhone: +34662328507



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Re: request. automatic updates. voice over feature.

[mario navarro]

hi nicholas.
I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard 
sustema osx, or other companies.

but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that  to be fixed.
The voice over is not immune to bugs.
we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
and also has voice over.
It would also automatic updates for new features.
nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want you 
to write the ticket for me to send.

I'll be super grateful.

thanks friend nicholas.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:

Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, just 
as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, even 
though those aren't separate applications.
More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main 
accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but typically 
problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated to improve 
accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, 
Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, there 
are a couple of issues with some of the voices messing some things up, but 
that's a different issue as it's Nuance that needs to address those issues.
Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for you if you 
like, and then you can send it from your own email account. I'll wait and hear 
what other people on this list have to say first, however, as it's probably 
wise to take on board other feedback.
Cheers,
Nic



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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[mario navarro]

nicholas, I liked that!
yes it would be great! !
the voice over has to innovate!
to me, it seems that voice over  are stopped  in time ...
we have to be to inform accessibility support so they listen to us.
thanks nicholas.
I agree.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:

Dear Apple Accessibility Team,

With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, it's 
surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver users own 
multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being able to sync 
VoiceOver preferences across all their devices.

Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no doubt 
a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, requiring a 
user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, it also seems to 
have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, at least in my 
experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver preferences to a third party 
syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does not seem to work smoothly. It 
doesn't seem to export or import my pronunciation and keyboard commander 
preferences, for example.

iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer 
seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, 
without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could offer 
syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and iOS devices 
so far as the same preferences were applicable.

I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and OS X.

Thank you for all your great work.

Kind regards,
Nic



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Re: request. automatic updates. voice over feature.

[BBS]

I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be like Jaws or 
Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover were updated constantly, 
that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that have been inaccessible will remain 
inaccessible until the app developers fix those issues themselves. And as far 
as Voiceover having bugs in the app, hate to say this, but you’ve pretty much 
said your problem yourself, that the apps are the problem and not Voiceover. So 
no, Voiceover doesn’t need automatic updates. We don’t need to go through the 
same hell we go through with Windows screen readers.

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:29 AM, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
> 
> hi nicholas.
> I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard sustema 
> osx, or other companies.
> but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that  to be fixed.
> The voice over is not immune to bugs.
> we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
> and also has voice over.
> It would also automatic updates for new features.
> nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want you to 
> write the ticket for me to send.
> I'll be super grateful.
> 
> thanks friend nicholas.
> cheers.
> Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:
>> Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, 
>> just as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, 
>> even though those aren't separate applications.
>> More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main 
>> accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but typically 
>> problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated to improve 
>> accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, 
>> Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, 
>> there are a couple of issues with some of the voices messing some things up, 
>> but that's a different issue as it's Nuance that needs to address those 
>> issues.
>> Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for you if you 
>> like, and then you can send it from your own email account. I'll wait and 
>> hear what other people on this list have to say first, however, as it's 
>> probably wise to take on board other feedback.
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
>> 
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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[BBS]

Ok, Chris and Mario, let’s be logical here. That idea will not work. But let’s 
play devil’s advocate for a minute. Let’s say that it did work. Let’s say that 
syncing Voiceover preferences to all Apple devices worked. That would mean that 
every voice from the Mac would have to be installed on the iPhone or whatever 
I-device the person has. And since the current I-devices right now don’t have 
big enough hard drives to hold all those voices, Apple would have to create 
brand new I-devices that are capable of storing those big voices. Now think 
about it for a second. Would you want to pay big bucks for an I-device, the 
same amount maybe that we paid for our Macs, just so you can sync all your 
Voiceover preferences that are on your Macs to those devices. I don’t think so. 
So it isn’t pheasable to have such a feature.

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:44 AM, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
>nicholas, I liked that!
> yes it would be great! !
> the voice over has to innovate!
> to me, it seems that voice over  are stopped  in time ...
> we have to be to inform accessibility support so they listen to us.
> thanks nicholas.
> I agree.
> cheers.
> Em 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:
>> Dear Apple Accessibility Team,
>> 
>> With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, 
>> it's surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver 
>> users own multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being able 
>> to sync VoiceOver preferences across all their devices.
>> 
>> Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no 
>> doubt a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, 
>> requiring a user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, it 
>> also seems to have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, at 
>> least in my experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver preferences 
>> to a third party syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does not seem to 
>> work smoothly. It doesn't seem to export or import my pronunciation and 
>> keyboard commander preferences, for example.
>> 
>> iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer 
>> seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, 
>> without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could 
>> offer syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and 
>> iOS devices so far as the same preferences were applicable.
>> 
>> I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and 
>> OS X.
>> 
>> Thank you for all your great work.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Nic
>> 
> 
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Re: request. automatic updates. voice over feature.

[mario navarro]

no, what I said, is that the voice over also has bugs independently of apps.
sorry but I do not think that way .

I only want the best for the voice over, I'm not comparing windows and mac.
please do not misunderstand me .

cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 08:49, BBS escreveu:

I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be like Jaws or 
Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover were updated constantly, 
that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that have been inaccessible will remain 
inaccessible until the app developers fix those issues themselves. And as far 
as Voiceover having bugs in the app, hate to say this, but you’ve pretty much 
said your problem yourself, that the apps are the problem and not Voiceover. So 
no, Voiceover doesn’t need automatic updates. We don’t need to go through the 
same hell we go through with Windows screen readers.

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:29 AM, mario navarro  wrote:



hi nicholas.
I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard sustema 
osx, or other companies.
but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that  to be fixed.
The voice over is not immune to bugs.
we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
and also has voice over.
It would also automatic updates for new features.
nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want you to 
write the ticket for me to send.
I'll be super grateful.

thanks friend nicholas.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:

Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, just 
as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, even 
though those aren't separate applications.
More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main 
accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but typically 
problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated to improve 
accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, 
Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, there 
are a couple of issues with some of the voices messing some things up, but 
that's a different issue as it's Nuance that needs to address those issues.
Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for you if you 
like, and then you can send it from your own email account. I'll wait and hear 
what other people on this list have to say first, however, as it's probably 
wise to take on board other feedback.
Cheers,
Nic


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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[mario navarro]

the updates of the voices are very small files.
but could be considered only for mac.
this feature could be just for mac.
for mac what is the mac, and ios what is ios.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 09:01, BBS escreveu:

Ok, Chris and Mario, let’s be logical here. That idea will not work. But let’s 
play devil’s advocate for a minute. Let’s say that it did work. Let’s say that 
syncing Voiceover preferences to all Apple devices worked. That would mean that 
every voice from the Mac would have to be installed on the iPhone or whatever 
I-device the person has. And since the current I-devices right now don’t have 
big enough hard drives to hold all those voices, Apple would have to create 
brand new I-devices that are capable of storing those big voices. Now think 
about it for a second. Would you want to pay big bucks for an I-device, the 
same amount maybe that we paid for our Macs, just so you can sync all your 
Voiceover preferences that are on your Macs to those devices. I don’t think so. 
So it isn’t pheasable to have such a feature.

Shawn
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:44 AM, mario navarro  wrote:


nicholas, I liked that!
yes it would be great! !
the voice over has to innovate!
to me, it seems that voice over  are stopped  in time ...
we have to be to inform accessibility support so they listen to us.
thanks nicholas.
I agree.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:

Dear Apple Accessibility Team,

With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, it's 
surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver users own 
multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being able to sync 
VoiceOver preferences across all their devices.

Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no doubt 
a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, requiring a 
user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, it also seems to 
have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, at least in my 
experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver preferences to a third party 
syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does not seem to work smoothly. It 
doesn't seem to export or import my pronunciation and keyboard commander 
preferences, for example.

iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer 
seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, 
without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could offer 
syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and iOS devices 
so far as the same preferences were applicable.

I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and OS X.

Thank you for all your great work.

Kind regards,
Nic


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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
control+F8?


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> Hi all,
> 
> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to get 
> through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues with the 
> app.
> 
> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some kind 
> of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of events and 
> reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
> 
> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my findings 
> with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and useful 
> information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already contacted 
> them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

Burn is a good choice for this.


Free and accessible.


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> don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
> I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
> Best
> 
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Daniela Rubio]

Thank you so much! Is it on the Appstore?
Cheers!

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El 31/10/2013, a las 11:12, Ray Foret Jr  escribió:

> Burn is a good choice for this.
> 
> 
> Free and accessible.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
>> don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
>> I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
>> Best
>> 
>> Daniela Rubio T
>> iphone: +34662328507
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> iPhone: +34662328507
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

Nope, but, if you Bing or Googld it, it will pop right up.


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> Thank you so much! Is it on the Appstore?
> Cheers!
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> El 31/10/2013, a las 11:12, Ray Foret Jr  escribió:
> 
>> Burn is a good choice for this.
>> 
>> 
>> Free and accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
>>> don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
>>> I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>> iphone: +34662328507
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>>  Distinguished Educator
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
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Re: finder busy in large folders and can't create new users

[Dean Adams]

Hi All,
I have had a call back about both of the issue and they have told me 
that it is an issue with voice over and the have esculated it to the software 
team .

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On 31 Oct 2013, at 12:29 am, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi there 
> When I was still in Mavericks, one way I found to get out of Finer busy 
> without completely force quitting was to press control command eseape, and 
> then press the carriage return a couple of times. This resulted, in my case, 
> of not force quitting but getting Finer out of busy. The other thing I found 
> was once I opened a window I needed, I didn't close it, but went from window 
> to window in Finer with command accent sign. I found I didn't get Finer busy 
> so much as long as I didn't try to set up new windows in Finer. You might try 
> some of these things and see if it helps. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dean Adams  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alll,
>>  I have tested a problem that some are having with finder busy and it 
>> only happens when you get to a folder with large amounts of files in it it 
>> wont access it properly and all I get is finder busy in coliumn view but it 
>> doesn't happen in list view, this only happens with folders with large 
>> amounts of files in it smaller folder do not have a finder busy issue. 
>>  The second issue is when I tried to create a test acount after entering 
>> all info and pressing the create account it throw me out and comes up with 
>> an error message I have had another persion test both of these and he is 
>> having both issues . Has anyone else had both of these issues please let me 
>> know and report to apple so we can get them to rectify them in the next 
>> update.
>>  
>> Regards Dean
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Re: request. automatic updates. voice over feature.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The issue with automatic updates to VoiceOver has been skirted around here but 
not clearly enough in my opinion.  VoiceOver is not just a bolted on app to the 
MacOS, it is a part of the OS itself.  While you could update specific code 
within the screenreader service, the majority of fixes actually are within the 
coding of the system itself.  That is, the way that either the OS handles a 
process or the method by which Apple or third party apps handle system 
resources often cause the problems we have with the VO interface.  The use of 
custom elements within apps is outside the scope and of VO updates but, when, 
addressed affect VO accessibility.  So, what I’m saying, is that I don’t 
believe that updates to VO can necessarily be easily separated from OS updates 
other than through “Supplemental” sorts of things.

JMO.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:17 AM, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
> 
> no, what I said, is that the voice over also has bugs independently of apps.
> sorry but I do not think that way .
> 
> I only want the best for the voice over, I'm not comparing windows and mac.
> please do not misunderstand me .
> 
> cheers.
> Em 31/10/2013 08:49, BBS escreveu:
>> I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be like Jaws 
>> or Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover were updated 
>> constantly, that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that have been 
>> inaccessible will remain inaccessible until the app developers fix those 
>> issues themselves. And as far as Voiceover having bugs in the app, hate to 
>> say this, but you’ve pretty much said your problem yourself, that the apps 
>> are the problem and not Voiceover. So no, Voiceover doesn’t need automatic 
>> updates. We don’t need to go through the same hell we go through with 
>> Windows screen readers.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:29 AM, mario navarro  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> hi nicholas.
>>> I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard sustema 
>>> osx, or other companies.
>>> but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that  to be fixed.
>>> The voice over is not immune to bugs.
>>> we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
>>> and also has voice over.
>>> It would also automatic updates for new features.
>>> nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want you to 
>>> write the ticket for me to send.
>>> I'll be super grateful.
>>> 
>>> thanks friend nicholas.
>>> cheers.
>>> Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:
 Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, 
 just as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, 
 even though those aren't separate applications.
 More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main 
 accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but 
 typically problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated 
 to improve accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion 
 it's iBooks, Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not 
 VoiceOver. Well, there are a couple of issues with some of the voices 
 messing some things up, but that's a different issue as it's Nuance that 
 needs to address those issues.
 Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for you if 
 you like, and then you can send it from your own email account. I'll wait 
 and hear what other people on this list have to say first, however, as 
 it's probably wise to take on board other feedback.
 Cheers,
 Nic
 
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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hey Nic 
It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for instance, 
they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people care. 
Regards, 
Gigi 

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> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
> control+F8?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to get 
>> through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues with the 
>> app.
>> 
>> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
>> kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
>> events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
>> 
>> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my findings 
>> with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and useful 
>> information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already contacted 
>> them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Nic
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Re: Alternates to Apple Mail

[Teresa Cochran]

I can verify that Mail Mate is very accessible. It has a trial, and for me the 
price tag is a bit steep at $30. so far, I’m sticking with Mac Mail, but it was 
good to know this one was out there.

teresa

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On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> MacWorld had an article which reviewed a dozen or so alternate mail apps to 
> try if Apple Mail just won't cooperate. Not sure how many of them are 
> accessible, but it's a start for those who are ready to jump ship.
> 
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html
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program to burn movies on the mac?

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Okay, we got a new car, and it has a dvd player in it.  And since there is no 
way for me to hook up my 4TB USB drive in the car and play movies that way.  I 
need a program that is going to allow me to burn movies to blank DVD’s.  Does 
anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: add a copy to device menu in iTunes

[Teresa Cochran]

Would this be different from right-clicking on a library item, choosing “add to 
playlist” and selecting your device? I do that a lot.

Teresa

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On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:

> Hi All,
>   I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books 
> etc library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead 
> of copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a 
> copy to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are 
> copying the media from you would not have to move out of that library until 
> you have finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by 
> apple they need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put 
> forward to its software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good 
> please contact apple to suggest it . 
> Regards Dean
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Re: Alternates to Apple Mail

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  Here’s the thing I’m wondering.  What does Mail Mate do for us that 
Apple Mail will not do:  or perhaps, not do as well?


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On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I can verify that Mail Mate is very accessible. It has a trial, and for me 
> the price tag is a bit steep at $30. so far, I’m sticking with Mac Mail, but 
> it was good to know this one was out there.
> 
> teresa
> 
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> MacWorld had an article which reviewed a dozen or so alternate mail apps to 
>> try if Apple Mail just won't cooperate. Not sure how many of them are 
>> accessible, but it's a start for those who are ready to jump ship.
>> 
>> http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html
>> 
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Re: add a copy to device menu in iTunes

[Ray Foret Jr]

I have an even better suggestion.  Why not be able to select files directly in 
finder  and, provided your Mac sees your IDevice is connected, an extra item 
appears in the short cut menu that says “copy directly to IDevice or something 
like that.  Thing about that is, you’d need to make real sure your meta data 
taggint was correct though. 


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> Would this be different from right-clicking on a library item, choosing “add 
> to playlist” and selecting your device? I do that a lot.
> 
> Teresa
> 
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> On Oct 30, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Dean Adams  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>  I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books 
>> etc library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead 
>> of copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a 
>> copy to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are 
>> copying the media from you would not have to move out of that library until 
>> you have finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by 
>> apple they need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put 
>> forward to its software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good 
>> please contact apple to suggest it . 
>> Regards Dean
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Re: request. automatic updates. voice over feature.

[mario navarro]

okay.
perhaps that explains the Cause of updates being made only in osx system 
updates.

but without certainties.
but so far was the best explanation of the topic.
thanks.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 13:13, Tim Kilburn escreveu:

Hi,

The issue with automatic updates to VoiceOver has been skirted around 
here but not clearly enough in my opinion.  VoiceOver is not just a 
bolted on app to the MacOS, it is a part of the OS itself.  While you 
could update specific code within the screenreader service, the 
majority of fixes actually are within the coding of the system itself. 
 That is, the way that either the OS handles a process or the method 
by which Apple or third party apps handle system resources often cause 
the problems we have with the VO interface.  The use of custom 
elements within apps is outside the scope and of VO updates but, when, 
addressed affect VO accessibility.  So, what I’m saying, is that I 
don’t believe that updates to VO can necessarily be easily separated 
from OS updates other than through “Supplemental” sorts of things.


JMO.

Later…

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:17 AM, mario navarro > wrote:





no, what I said, is that the voice over also has bugs independently 
of apps.

sorry but I do not think that way .

I only want the best for the voice over, I'm not comparing windows 
and mac.

please do not misunderstand me .

cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 08:49, BBS escreveu:
I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be 
like Jaws or Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover 
were updated constantly, that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that 
have been inaccessible will remain inaccessible until the app 
developers fix those issues themselves. And as far as Voiceover 
having bugs in the app, hate to say this, but you’ve pretty much 
said your problem yourself, that the apps are the problem and not 
Voiceover. So no, Voiceover doesn’t need automatic updates. We don’t 
need to go through the same hell we go through with Windows screen 
readers.


Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:29 AM, mario navarro > wrote:




hi nicholas.
I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard 
sustema osx, or other companies.
but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that  to be 
fixed.

The voice over is not immune to bugs.
we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are.
and also has voice over.
It would also automatic updates for new features.
nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want 
you to write the ticket for me to send.

I'll be super grateful.

thanks friend nicholas.
cheers.
Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:
Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they 
wanted to, just as they push other updates for raw camera 
compatibility and the like, even though those aren't separate 
applications.
More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the 
main accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, 
but typically problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to 
be updated to improve accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, 
in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder 
which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, there are a couple of 
issues with some of the voices messing some things up, but that's 
a different issue as it's Nuance that needs to address those issues.
Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for 
you if you like, and then you can send it from your own email 
account. I'll wait and hear what other people on this list have to 
say first, however, as it's probably wise to take on board other 
feedback.

Cheers,
Nic


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Re: program to burn movies on the mac?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Burn should give you what you are looking for.

There is another one called Simply Burn.  Both are accessible and free and 
neither in the ap store.


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> Okay, we got a new car, and it has a dvd player in it.  And since there is no 
> way for me to hook up my 4TB USB drive in the car and play movies that way.  
> I need a program that is going to allow me to burn movies to blank DVD’s.  
> Does anyone have any suggestions?  Thanks.
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

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You can also do it with iTunes. My wife does it this way. It was easier 
for her as she already knew her way around and didn't have to learn 
another app. She just sucks in all the tracks, grabs everything from 
recently imported, makes a playlist from them and burns that playlist. 
Yes, I'm sure its easier in something else but don't discount familiarity.


CB

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Burn is a good choice for this.


Free and accessible.


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On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:


Hello!
One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well, with respect, you did ask for an alternative did you not?  IF the asker 
was not you, my opologies.


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On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> You can also do it with iTunes. My wife does it this way. It was easier for 
> her as she already knew her way around and didn't have to learn another app. 
> She just sucks in all the tracks, grabs everything from recently imported, 
> makes a playlist from them and burns that playlist. Yes, I'm sure its easier 
> in something else but don't discount familiarity.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/31/13 6:12 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Burn is a good choice for this.
>> 
>> 
>> Free and accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
>>> don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
>>> I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>> iphone: +34662328507
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>>  Distinguished Educator
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Chris Blouch]

Wasn't me asking. Just noting that it's possible with the included tools.

CB

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Well, with respect, you did ask for an alternative did you not?  IF the asker 
was not you, my opologies.


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You can also do it with iTunes. My wife does it this way. It was easier for her 
as she already knew her way around and didn't have to learn another app. She 
just sucks in all the tracks, grabs everything from recently imported, makes a 
playlist from them and burns that playlist. Yes, I'm sure its easier in 
something else but don't discount familiarity.

CB

On 10/31/13 6:12 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Burn is a good choice for this.


Free and accessible.


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On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:


Hello!
One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iphone: +34662328507



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Re: App to copy CDs on mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I agree Chris.  If one is simply making music CDs, then iTunes works 
excellently and you don’t require anything further.  The added bonus is that 
your music is likely already in iTunes anyway so that makes it even more 
convenient.  If you are hoping to burn more than just music CDs, then a 
different alternative is necessary.  I don’t believe that distinction was made 
in the original post.

Later….

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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> You can also do it with iTunes. My wife does it this way. It was easier for 
> her as she already knew her way around and didn't have to learn another app. 
> She just sucks in all the tracks, grabs everything from recently imported, 
> makes a playlist from them and burns that playlist. Yes, I'm sure its easier 
> in something else but don't discount familiarity.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/31/13 6:12 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Burn is a good choice for this.
>> 
>> 
>> Free and accessible.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:19 AM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I 
>>> don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him.
>>> I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much!
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>> iphone: +34662328507
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>>  Distinguished Educator
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

[Christina C.]

Hi,

I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer and I 
have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for me. :)  I 
know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart enough to be 
convincing. LOL!

Christina
On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things about 
> Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never thought I'd 
> need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted to see my 
> calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so this point 
> really sold me.
> 
> Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
> about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
> developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
> feature for VoiceOver users. 
> 
> Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
> version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately the 
> actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
> VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
> the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nic
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iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi guys:
I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of iTunes. 
I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually manage music 
checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode checked, and side 
bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, check music, interact 
with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try to paste, nothing happens. 
Help!

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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Christina C.]

OK, I have this app. I believe getting to the calendar view is very tricky. I 
will try to look at it. I do not use the app for that. I only use it to add 
calendar events. I can’t explain why but I just much prefer Fantastical for 
this. If I remember correctly, the calendar view pops up when the mouse hovers 
over something. I will ask my son to look at it with me and get back to you 
soon. :)

Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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> Hey Nic 
> It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
> accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
> instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
> care. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
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> 
>> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
>> control+F8?
>> 
>> 
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>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to get 
>>> through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues with the 
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
>>> kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
>>> events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
>>> 
>>> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my 
>>> findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and 
>>> useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already 
>>> contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nic
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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Christina C.]

Hi Nick,

OK, I found it. It does not pop up after hovering the mouse. That was something 
different. I can explain that later if need be but for now. Here is the 
calendar. When you are in the app, the very first item you will here right 
before the edit box to add a new event says “dim calendar”. Just interact with 
that. then VO arrow around. I have noticed some behavior changes with Maverick. 
I keep having to access the application chooser to access Fantastical, and I 
never had to do this before. It’s like VO keeps loosing focus on Fantastical.

Let me know if I can help further :)
Christina 
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Christina C.  wrote:

> OK, I have this app. I believe getting to the calendar view is very tricky. I 
> will try to look at it. I do not use the app for that. I only use it to add 
> calendar events. I can’t explain why but I just much prefer Fantastical for 
> this. If I remember correctly, the calendar view pops up when the mouse 
> hovers over something. I will ask my son to look at it with me and get back 
> to you soon. :)
> 
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nic 
>> It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
>> accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
>> instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
>> care. 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
>>> control+F8?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to 
 get through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues 
 with the app.
 
 The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
 kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
 events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
 
 I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my 
 findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and 
 useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already 
 contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Teresa Cochran]

The only way I have found to work around this is to bring up the contextual 
menu with either VO-shift-M (or control-numpad 5 if you have mouse keys 
enabled) and choose add to playlist, then choose your device. I don’t know why 
it doesn’t always copy, but this happens to me as well.

HtH,teresa

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wrote:

> Hi guys:
> I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
> iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
> manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
> checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, 
> check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try to 
> paste, nothing happens. Help!
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Re: Disk Maker X

[Daniel C]

The latest OSX 10.9 will not download. The App Store says, for an error. An 
error has occurred, Maverecks failed to download.
I tried downloading the image twice. Any suggestions?

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Survey

[Cheree Heppe]

Has anyone noticed that a change in the way Voice Over relays the caps on/caps 
off state has changed?  Prior to OIS7, pressing the caps lock key resulted in 
VO saying caps lock on or caps lock off with an IOS device such as an Iphone.  
Currently, the response is uninformatively the same: caps lock off.  This 
response prevents a blind person from determining whether the letters being 
typed into the message are capitalized or not.  Not very pretty.

On the same theme, HHS (Health and Human Services) commissioned a web design 
survey relating to how blind consumers prefer their web design.  The Survey 
Monkey survey shows an HHS person with email contact at the start of the 
survey.  However, after completing this survey, there is no way to look at the 
intro material and copy or obtain the email.  A survey participant would have 
to know in advance that the survey would not permit returning to previously 
accessed pages and write down or link to access the email before proceeding 
with the survey.

The survey asks at the end about the participants' visual accuity.  Either I am 
very much missing something while using my Iphone, but, the checkbox available 
is only for low vision.  A survey participant must check this box in order to 
proceed.  I did not locate any checkbox indicating no vision, totally blind or 
the like.  It would be a shame if that little detail got left out of a survey 
to measure blind user preferences with web design.

Anybody else take this survey?  I would be curious about the missing checkbox.  
If it is me, well, that's my problem.  It the survey is set up to not select 
for totally blind members of the population, that would seem to represent a 
bias.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe

P 

Sent from my IPhone 4S

On 31/10/2013, at 9:13, "Christina C."  wrote:

OK, I have this app. I believe getting to the calendar view is very tricky. I 
will try to look at it. I do not use the app for that. I only use it to add 
calendar events. I can’t explain why but I just much prefer Fantastical for 
this. If I remember correctly, the calendar view pops up when the mouse hovers 
over something. I will ask my son to look at it with me and get back to you 
soon. :)

Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hey Nic 
> It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
> accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
> instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
> care. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
>> control+F8?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to get 
>>> through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues with the 
>>> app.
>>> 
>>> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
>>> kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
>>> events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
>>> 
>>> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my 
>>> findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and 
>>> useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already 
>>> contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nic
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Super Duper?

[Rob]

Hi,
Are any of you using Super Duper to clone your hard drive?
I want to know if I can save the backups on my external drive that 
contains other files, or will super duper require the drive to be 
formatted for its use only?


Thanks,
Rob
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Re: Super Duper?

[Matt Dierckens]

I would like to know too. I have super duper here and haven't used it yet.

Matt Dierckens
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> Hi,
> Are any of you using Super Duper to clone your hard drive?
> I want to know if I can save the backups on my external drive that contains 
> other files, or will super duper require the drive to be formatted for its 
> use only?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[BBS]

Mario, iOS is the operating system that’s on iPhones, iPads, etc.

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:43 AM, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
> the updates of the voices are very small files.
> but could be considered only for mac.
> this feature could be just for mac.
> for mac what is the mac, and ios what is ios.
> cheers.
> Em 31/10/2013 09:01, BBS escreveu:
>> Ok, Chris and Mario, let’s be logical here. That idea will not work. But 
>> let’s play devil’s advocate for a minute. Let’s say that it did work. Let’s 
>> say that syncing Voiceover preferences to all Apple devices worked. That 
>> would mean that every voice from the Mac would have to be installed on the 
>> iPhone or whatever I-device the person has. And since the current I-devices 
>> right now don’t have big enough hard drives to hold all those voices, Apple 
>> would have to create brand new I-devices that are capable of storing those 
>> big voices. Now think about it for a second. Would you want to pay big bucks 
>> for an I-device, the same amount maybe that we paid for our Macs, just so 
>> you can sync all your Voiceover preferences that are on your Macs to those 
>> devices. I don’t think so. So it isn’t pheasable to have such a feature.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:44 AM, mario navarro  wrote:
>> 
>>>nicholas, I liked that!
>>> yes it would be great! !
>>> the voice over has to innovate!
>>> to me, it seems that voice over  are stopped  in time ...
>>> we have to be to inform accessibility support so they listen to us.
>>> thanks nicholas.
>>> I agree.
>>> cheers.
>>> Em 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons escreveu:
 Dear Apple Accessibility Team,
 
 With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, 
 it's surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver 
 users own multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being 
 able to sync VoiceOver preferences across all their devices.
 
 Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no 
 doubt a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, 
 requiring a user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, 
 it also seems to have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, 
 at least in my experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver 
 preferences to a third party syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does 
 not seem to work smoothly. It doesn't seem to export or import my 
 pronunciation and keyboard commander preferences, for example.
 
 iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer 
 seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, 
 without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could 
 offer syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and 
 iOS devices so far as the same preferences were applicable.
 
 I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and 
 OS X.
 
 Thank you for all your great work.
 
 Kind regards,
 Nic
 
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Re: TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Anne,

You are a genius! Checking the option to wrap text to page in both TextEdit and 
iText in the preferences seems to have done the trick! Hooray! Nothing is 
broken. It shows how important it is to ask the list first before one sends off 
a report to Apple accessibility. I'm so glad to have both the applications back 
and working. 

Thank you! I hope it will do the same for Daniella.

Andrew
On 31 Oct 2013, at 14:00, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
> 
> program to burn movies on the mac? [1 Update]
> add a copy to device menu in iTunes [2 Updates]
> Alternates to Apple Mail [2 Updates]
> Fantastical for Mac [2 Updates]
> request. automatic updates. voice over feature. [5 Updates]
> finder busy in large folders and can't create new users [2 Updates]
> App to copy CDs on mac [4 Updates]
> Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences [5 Updates]
> TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [2 Updates]
>  program to burn movies on the mac?
> Kliphton ---  Oct 31 08:52AM -0500  
> 
> Okay, we got a new car, and it has a dvd player in it. And since there is no 
> way for me to hook up my 4TB USB drive in the car and play movies that way. I 
> need a program that is going to allow me to burn movies to blank DVD’s. Does 
> anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
> Kliphton
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>  
>  add a copy to device menu in iTunes
> Dean Adams  Oct 31 05:57PM +1100  
> 
> Hi All,
> I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books etc 
> library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead of 
> copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a copy 
> to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are copying 
> the media from you would not have to move out of that library until you have 
> finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by apple they 
> need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put forward to its 
> software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good please contact apple 
> to suggest it . 
> Regards Dean
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>  
> Teresa Cochran  Oct 31 06:51AM -0700  
> 
> Would this be different from right-clicking on a library item, choosing “add 
> to playlist” and selecting your device? I do that a lot.
>  
> Teresa
>  
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>  
>  
>  Alternates to Apple Mail
> Chris Blouch  Oct 30 05:20PM -0400  
> 
> MacWorld had an article which reviewed a dozen or so alternate mail apps 
> to try if Apple Mail just won't cooperate. Not sure how many of them are 
> accessible, but it's a start for those who are ready to jump ship.
>  
> http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html
>  
> CB
>  
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>  
> Teresa Cochran  Oct 31 06:47AM -0700  
> 
> I can verify that Mail Mate is very accessible. It has a trial, and for me 
> the price tag is a bit steep at $30. so far, I’m sticking with Mac Mail, but 
> it was good to know this one was out there.
>  
> teresa
>  
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>  
>  
>  Fantastical for Mac
> Ray Foret Jr  Oct 31 05:08AM -0500  
> 
> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras? The one you get by pressing 
> control+F8?
>  
>  
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>  
>  
> Eugenia Firth  Oct 31 08:17AM -0500  
> 
> Hey Nic 
> It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
> accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
> instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
> care. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>  
>  
>  request. automatic updates. voice over feature.
> Nicholas Parsons  Oct 31 05:29PM +1100  
> 
> Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, just 
> as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, even 
> though those aren't separate applications.
> More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main 
> accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but typically 
> problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated to improve 
> accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, 
> Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, 
> ther

Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I'm copying albums, not playlists. You need albums on the player  before you 
can make playlists. I really don't want to make playlists.
On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> The only way I have found to work around this is to bring up the contextual 
> menu with either VO-shift-M (or control-numpad 5 if you have mouse keys 
> enabled) and choose add to playlist, then choose your device. I don’t know 
> why it doesn’t always copy, but this happens to me as well.
> 
> HtH,teresa
> 
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys:
>> I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
>> iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
>> manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
>> checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, 
>> check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try 
>> to paste, nothing happens. Help!
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Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi. I’m sorry for the confusion. The menu choice you want is “add to playlist”. 
the reason you want to choose this is that your device itself will show up as a 
single playlist. I’ve been able to select a number of songs and choose “add to 
playlist” submenu, then choose my device, and they all show up in the music 
folder.

htH,
teresa

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wrote:

> Hi:
> I'm copying albums, not playlists. You need albums on the player  before you 
> can make playlists. I really don't want to make playlists.
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> The only way I have found to work around this is to bring up the contextual 
>> menu with either VO-shift-M (or control-numpad 5 if you have mouse keys 
>> enabled) and choose add to playlist, then choose your device. I don’t know 
>> why it doesn’t always copy, but this happens to me as well.
>> 
>> HtH,teresa
>> 
>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi guys:
>>> I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
>>> iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
>>> manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
>>> checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, 
>>> check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try 
>>> to paste, nothing happens. Help!
>>> 
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Re: Super Duper?

[Daniel C]

The external can be partitioned into 2, if it’ll be  easier, then you can tell 
SuperDuper to save on the other partition, while keeping your files on a 
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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

[Danny Noonan]

Go to Settings help and the last option is to contact them. 

I quite like the date ticker  only being the date as it suits it's function 
IMO. Also when date ticker is in focus a 3 finger swipe left or right moves by 
3 days. To add to that when the events section, ie events and reminders, roter 
on headings will move day by day and 3 finger swipe up or down will scroll 
larger amounts although I've found this a tad buggy as focus jumps back to my 
start point at times. I'll tap and hold on the month heading and jump straight 
to the date or nearbye it and then use the date ticker or headings in events to 
check round the date I want. 

Sorry if this is obvious to some. I've only played with the app for 40 minutes 
and with no mention of VoiceOver anywhere I had to reinvent the wheel a bit. 
It's a different beast to apples calendar app. Smile. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:08 am, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer and 
> I have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for me. :) 
>  I know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart enough to be 
> convincing. LOL!
> 
> Christina
>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things about 
>> Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never thought I'd 
>> need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted to see my 
>> calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so this point 
>> really sold me.
>> 
>> Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
>> about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
>> developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
>> feature for VoiceOver users. 
>> 
>> Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
>> version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately the 
>> actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
>> VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
>> the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Anyway to get mail to follow rules in IOS

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this. I use a Mac at home still 
running Mt. Lion, yes no reason for me to upgrade with all the gmail nightmares 
I have heard about. Anyway I have rules set up for this list and other lists I 
am on on my desktop and laptop to send all these messages to another mailbox 
and not my inbox. Unfortunately for some reason on my iPhone these messages 
don't obey the rules which when I am not at home has become a real pain as they 
go to my main inbox. Has anyone figured out a way to get the list messages to 
obey the same rules on your iPhone? If everything is being synched through 
iCloud you would think they would follow the rules you have set up in mammal. 
Thanks for any help.

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Re: Anyway to get mail to follow rules in IOS

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

if your using gmail, and your using IMAP, you need to go to the gmail site and 
set up the rules, which they call filters, and folders, which they call labels 
on the gmail site.  then, the changes will be reflected across all your 
devices.  You set up a rule on the Mac, it only affect messages on your Mac.

hth

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On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this. I use a Mac at home still 
> running Mt. Lion, yes no reason for me to upgrade with all the gmail 
> nightmares I have heard about. Anyway I have rules set up for this list and 
> other lists I am on on my desktop and laptop to send all these messages to 
> another mailbox and not my inbox. Unfortunately for some reason on my iPhone 
> these messages don't obey the rules which when I am not at home has become a 
> real pain as they go to my main inbox. Has anyone figured out a way to get 
> the list messages to obey the same rules on your iPhone? If everything is 
> being synched through iCloud you would think they would follow the rules you 
> have set up in mammal. Thanks for any help.
> 
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Re: BusyMac Response to BusyCal Accessibility Request

[Emilio]

Hello Nicholas and others,

Not too surprising that the developers of BusyCal have not yet 
"investigated" the voiceover incompatibility issue.
I looked through my e-mail and found the Message I received from Jon on 
February 19, 2013, which is as follows:

"Hi Emilio,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll add it to the wish list, but it will be a 
while before we have time to investigate this. We don't know anything about 
Voice Over and are surprised and pleased to learn that our menu bar app 
supports it. 

Regards,
-John

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Re: Anyway to get mail to follow rules in IOS

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Ricardo, Thanks so much. I don't use the web mail for gmail as I find it 
very difficult to navigate. Do I just need to set up the same rule that I 
already have set in mammal and will the two cooperate or do I need to delete 
the rules I have set up in mammal? Thanks,
On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> if your using gmail, and your using IMAP, you need to go to the gmail site 
> and set up the rules, which they call filters, and folders, which they call 
> labels on the gmail site.  then, the changes will be reflected across all 
> your devices.  You set up a rule on the Mac, it only affect messages on your 
> Mac.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this. I use a Mac at home still 
>> running Mt. Lion, yes no reason for me to upgrade with all the gmail 
>> nightmares I have heard about. Anyway I have rules set up for this list and 
>> other lists I am on on my desktop and laptop to send all these messages to 
>> another mailbox and not my inbox. Unfortunately for some reason on my iPhone 
>> these messages don't obey the rules which when I am not at home has become a 
>> real pain as they go to my main inbox. Has anyone figured out a way to get 
>> the list messages to obey the same rules on your iPhone? If everything is 
>> being synched through iCloud you would think they would follow the rules you 
>> have set up in mammal. Thanks for any help.
>> 
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Re: Super Duper?

[Rob]

OK, I only had my Macbook for 2 days.
So my next question is, Is there a easy way to do this in Mountain Lion?
Thanks,
Rob
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On 10/31/2013 1:39 PM, Daniel C wrote:

The external can be partitioned into 2, if it’ll be  easier, then you can tell 
SuperDuper to save on the other partition, while keeping your files on a 
different partition.



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Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I've tried this, and have had no luck.
On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> The only way I have found to work around this is to bring up the contextual 
> menu with either VO-shift-M (or control-numpad 5 if you have mouse keys 
> enabled) and choose add to playlist, then choose your device. I don’t know 
> why it doesn’t always copy, but this happens to me as well.
> 
> HtH,teresa
> 
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys:
>> I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
>> iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
>> manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
>> checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, 
>> check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try 
>> to paste, nothing happens. Help!
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Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I tried it with no luck. It won't paste! I might have to reset the iPod to 
factory default. Ugg.
On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi. I’m sorry for the confusion. The menu choice you want is “add to 
> playlist”. the reason you want to choose this is that your device itself will 
> show up as a single playlist. I’ve been able to select a number of songs and 
> choose “add to playlist” submenu, then choose my device, and they all show up 
> in the music folder.
> 
> htH,
> teresa
> 
> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I'm copying albums, not playlists. You need albums on the player  before you 
>> can make playlists. I really don't want to make playlists.
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The only way I have found to work around this is to bring up the contextual 
>>> menu with either VO-shift-M (or control-numpad 5 if you have mouse keys 
>>> enabled) and choose add to playlist, then choose your device. I don’t know 
>>> why it doesn’t always copy, but this happens to me as well.
>>> 
>>> HtH,teresa
>>> 
>>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi guys:
 I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
 iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
 manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
 checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to 
 iPod, check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When 
 I try to paste, nothing happens. Help!
 
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Just testing. Making sure I have everything entered correctly to send messages to this group. The last few messages I have sent keep getting return. Testing

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getting mac to see other pc's on my home network

[don bishop]

Hi,
I have at&t UVerse as my provider and using the router they provide.  The imac 
connects to it just fine and writing this on it now.  However, I also have 2 
windows pc’s on the network.  They can “see” each other just fine, but I can’t 
get the mac to  see them. I don’t see anything on the imac in network settings 
which I should change, but I’m still rather new with the mac so might be 
missing something.  
Also looked at the sharing options on the imac and believe they’re set 
correctly.  

Btw, using Mavericks here.

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks,
Don


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Re: Super Duper?

[Daniel C]

Ok. Sorry about that.
What I can do for you is email  some instructions later as I need to find an 
external to work on.

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Re: Anyway to get mail to follow rules in IOS

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, you’d have to delete the rules on your Mac. Also, when you set the rules 
up, there is a checkbox that says “skip inbox”. Make sure you find that and 
check it, or else you’ll get a copy there.

HtH,
teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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> very difficult to navigate. Do I just need to set up the same rule that I 
> already have set in mammal and will the two cooperate or do I need to delete 
> the rules I have set up in mammal? Thanks,
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> if your using gmail, and your using IMAP, you need to go to the gmail site 
>> and set up the rules, which they call filters, and folders, which they call 
>> labels on the gmail site.  then, the changes will be reflected across all 
>> your devices.  You set up a rule on the Mac, it only affect messages on your 
>> Mac.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this. I use a Mac at home 
>>> still running Mt. Lion, yes no reason for me to upgrade with all the gmail 
>>> nightmares I have heard about. Anyway I have rules set up for this list and 
>>> other lists I am on on my desktop and laptop to send all these messages to 
>>> another mailbox and not my inbox. Unfortunately for some reason on my 
>>> iPhone these messages don't obey the rules which when I am not at home has 
>>> become a real pain as they go to my main inbox. Has anyone figured out a 
>>> way to get the list messages to obey the same rules on your iPhone? If 
>>> everything is being synched through iCloud you would think they would 
>>> follow the rules you have set up in mammal. Thanks for any help.
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Downloading Mavericks

[The Smiths]

Hi

I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
this the usual time?

How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.

Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
please would be appreciated.

Kind Regards
Janine 


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Re: Downloading Mavericks

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You can 
then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row to 
check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how busy 
Apple’s servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that 
Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
> and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
> this the usual time?
> 
> How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
> progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.
> 
> Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
> was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
> that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
> me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
> please would be appreciated.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Janine 
> 
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capslock in Fusion 6 under Mavericks

[Scott Erichsen]

Hi all,

 

I upgraded to Mavericks and at the same time purchased VMWare Fusion 6.

I installed windows 7 32bit with JAWS 15 and have KeyRemapForMacbook and
PCKeyboardHack.

Both are the latest versions.

 

I've set up the capslock key so that it now acts as a voiceover key on the
mac which is what it's supposed to do, but when I go into fusion it is not
acting like the insert key for JAWS.

I've set my keyboard layout in JAWS for laptop.

Is there anything I need to do specifically in windows or Fusion or JAWS to
make it work correctly?

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Scott

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RE: Downloading Mavericks

[The Smiths]

Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will take.
It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time remaining,
maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's hope it works.

 

Regards Janine

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks

 

Hi,

 

Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You
can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row
to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how
busy Apple's servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that
Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.

 

Later.

 

Tim Kilburn

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:





Hi

I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
this the usual time?

How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.

Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
please would be appreciated.

Kind Regards
Janine 


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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

[Christina C.]

Cool! I didn’t know about swiping the day ticker left or right. Did you get the 
month view calendar? This is my favorite feature along with being able to see 
my reminders on the same page. I never thought about using the rotor and 
headings to move through my list.
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Go to Settings help and the last option is to contact them. 
> 
> I quite like the date ticker  only being the date as it suits it's function 
> IMO. Also when date ticker is in focus a 3 finger swipe left or right moves 
> by 3 days. To add to that when the events section, ie events and reminders, 
> roter on headings will move day by day and 3 finger swipe up or down will 
> scroll larger amounts although I've found this a tad buggy as focus jumps 
> back to my start point at times. I'll tap and hold on the month heading and 
> jump straight to the date or nearbye it and then use the date ticker or 
> headings in events to check round the date I want. 
> 
> Sorry if this is obvious to some. I've only played with the app for 40 
> minutes and with no mention of VoiceOver anywhere I had to reinvent the wheel 
> a bit. It's a different beast to apples calendar app. Smile. 
> 
> 
> Danny. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:08 am, "Christina C."  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer and 
>> I have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for me. 
>> :)  I know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart enough to 
>> be convincing. LOL!
>> 
>> Christina
>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things about 
>>> Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never thought 
>>> I'd need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted to see 
>>> my calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so this point 
>>> really sold me.
>>> 
>>> Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
>>> about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
>>> developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
>>> feature for VoiceOver users. 
>>> 
>>> Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
>>> version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately 
>>> the actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
>>> VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
>>> the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nic
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Re: getting mac to see other pc's on my home network

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think you might have to go into system preferences/sharing, select file 
sharing from the table and press the option button.  Then I think you need to 
enable SMB.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:49 PM, don bishop  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have at&t UVerse as my provider and using the router they provide.  The 
> imac connects to it just fine and writing this on it now.  However, I also 
> have 2 windows pc’s on the network.  They can “see” each other just fine, but 
> I can’t get the mac to  see them. I don’t see anything on the imac in network 
> settings which I should change, but I’m still rather new with the mac so 
> might be missing something.  
> Also looked at the sharing options on the imac and believe they’re set 
> correctly.  
> 
> Btw, using Mavericks here.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
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Re: Downloading Mavericks

[Pete Nalda]

The time reporting isn’t always accurate, and there will be fluctuations, that 
have to do with your machine processing the download, as well as fluctuations 
in your connection (all connections fluctuate.  I’d plan on at around 5 hours, 
as it could take up to that.

On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:

> Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will take. 
> It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time remaining, 
> maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's hope it works.
>  
> Regards Janine
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You 
> can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row 
> to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how 
> busy Apple’s servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that 
> Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.
>  
> Later…
>  
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>  
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
> and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
> this the usual time?
> 
> How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
> progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.
> 
> Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
> was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
> that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
> me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
> please would be appreciated.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Janine 
> 
> 
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Re: Downloading Mavericks

[Tim Kilburn]

Yes.  I guess that I’m spoiled.  I’ve downloaded it twice now, once at home and 
once for work computers and in both cases it took about 45 to 50 minutes.  
Internet speed is a big factor.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> The time reporting isn’t always accurate, and there will be fluctuations, 
> that have to do with your machine processing the download, as well as 
> fluctuations in your connection (all connections fluctuate.  I’d plan on at 
> around 5 hours, as it could take up to that.
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will take. 
>> It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time remaining, 
>> maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's hope it works.
>> 
>> Regards Janine
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You 
>> can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row 
>> to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how 
>> busy Apple’s servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that 
>> Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
>> and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
>> this the usual time?
>> 
>> How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
>> progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.
>> 
>> Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
>> was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
>> that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
>> me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
>> please would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Janine 
>> 
>> 
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RE: Downloading Mavericks

[The Smiths]

Just to report back. It's finished downloading and probably took about 3
hours. Once it hit about 60% it showed a time of 20 minutes left but that
soon reduced to about 12 minutes. Many thanks for all the help.

 

Janine

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 1 November 2013 12:47 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks

 

Yes.  I guess that I'm spoiled.  I've downloaded it twice now, once at home
and once for work computers and in both cases it took about 45 to 50
minutes.  Internet speed is a big factor.

 

Later.

 

Tim Kilburn

Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 

On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:





The time reporting isn't always accurate, and there will be fluctuations,
that have to do with your machine processing the download, as well as
fluctuations in your connection (all connections fluctuate.  I'd plan on at
around 5 hours, as it could take up to that.

On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:




Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will take.
It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time remaining,
maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's hope it works.

Regards Janine

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks

Hi,

Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You
can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row
to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how
busy Apple's servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that
Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.

Later.

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:


Hi

I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
this the usual time?

How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.

Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
please would be appreciated.

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Saving an email

[Angus MacKinnon]

I have an email newsletter in mail and do a Command Shift S to Save it. I wish 
to save it om my external Hard Drive called Buffalo and the Subfolder is 
Wsletters.
 How do I select the Sub Folder? I select Buffalo from the Table.

Angus MacKinnon
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update on syncing iPod Nano with iTunes

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Ok guys,
I might have found a work around. It is a pain though.
Make sure your side bar under view is not hidden. Interact with the sources 
table, arrow down to iPod nano, and vo backslash to expand the iPod. Stop 
interacting, and vo right once. Interact, choose the music radio button. VO to 
the right. When you hear scroll area, interact and VO right. go past 
automatically fill free space check box. You'll see about 4 tables. VO right 
until you see albums and interact. You will see a list of all albums on your 
iTunes library. VO down arrow to move through the list. VO space on the check 
boxes by each album to check them. Once down, stop interacting, move back to 
iPod in sources, vo shift m. You will hear you've changed the settings. Choose 
apply. 
This has worked twice, so we will see.
Hope this helps someone else. 

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iCloud Keychain and Password Generation in Mavericks

[Orin]

Hi all,
Does anyone know how to do this in Safari on Mavericks? It’s enabled on both my 
phone and the Mac, but I’m curious how to do it on the Mac.
I looked it up and I don’t see the “popover” that Mac sites are saying will 
come up in the password field and if it does come up, I don’t know how to make 
VoiceOver see it.
Thanks.
Orin
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Re: add a copy to device menu in iTunes

[Nicholas Parsons]

What do you mean instead of copying and pasting to your iDevice? I've never 
used copy and paste to put something on my iPhone—I thought that couldn't be 
done.

On 31 Oct 2013, at 5:57 pm, Dean Adams  wrote:

> Hi All,
>   I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books 
> etc library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead 
> of copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a 
> copy to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are 
> copying the media from you would not have to move out of that library until 
> you have finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by 
> apple they need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put 
> forward to its software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good 
> please contact apple to suggest it . 
> Regards Dean
> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
> breezepa...@gmail.com
> Voip phone: +6124307 9248
> landline Phone: +61243892195
> Mobile: +61428133758
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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, Christina—not in front of my iMac now but will try this out next chance 
I get. Sounds promising!
Nic
On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:36 am, Christina C.  wrote:

> Hi Nick,
> 
> OK, I found it. It does not pop up after hovering the mouse. That was 
> something different. I can explain that later if need be but for now. Here is 
> the calendar. When you are in the app, the very first item you will here 
> right before the edit box to add a new event says “dim calendar”. Just 
> interact with that. then VO arrow around. I have noticed some behavior 
> changes with Maverick. I keep having to access the application chooser to 
> access Fantastical, and I never had to do this before. It’s like VO keeps 
> loosing focus on Fantastical.
> 
> Let me know if I can help further :)
> Christina 
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
>> OK, I have this app. I believe getting to the calendar view is very tricky. 
>> I will try to look at it. I do not use the app for that. I only use it to 
>> add calendar events. I can’t explain why but I just much prefer Fantastical 
>> for this. If I remember correctly, the calendar view pops up when the mouse 
>> hovers over something. I will ask my son to look at it with me and get back 
>> to you soon. :)
>> 
>> Christina
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey Nic 
>>> It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
>>> accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
>>> instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
>>> care. 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
 I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
 control+F8?
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to 
> get through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues 
> with the app.
> 
> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
> kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
> events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
> 
> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my 
> findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate and 
> useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has already 
> contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the bother.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nic
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Re: Downloading Mavericks

[Ricardo Walker]

Wow!

5 hours?  It took me less than 1 to download and install.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

> The time reporting isn’t always accurate, and there will be fluctuations, 
> that have to do with your machine processing the download, as well as 
> fluctuations in your connection (all connections fluctuate.  I’d plan on at 
> around 5 hours, as it could take up to that.
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will take. 
>> It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time remaining, 
>> maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's hope it works.
>> 
>> Regards Janine
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You 
>> can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks row 
>> to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and how 
>> busy Apple’s servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, that 
>> Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
>> and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
>> this the usual time?
>> 
>> How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
>> progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.
>> 
>> Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
>> was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
>> that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
>> me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
>> please would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Janine 
>> 
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Update on my computer

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
For those of you who have just gotten your Macs, let me tell you that I am 
about to take advantage of a big reason why I switched from Windows. You may 
remember that I had big problems with my update to Mavericks, and that I had a 
still open case with Apple. The gentleman I am working with contacted some of 
his colleagues, and they basically want some documentation from my computer, 
after we spend a good part of Saturday upgrading again (after backing up first) 
and turning in the logs (whatever those are) to Apple. They can't figure out 
why my computer said I had a Braille Edge 11 since there isn't one supposed to 
be on the braille display list. In fact, the computer actually said 011. Maybe 
I can then do again what I did before, which was take the Braille Edge 40 off 
while under Mavericks and see if VoiceOver says Braille Edge 011 again. If 
things get messed up again, we will maybe need to put my computer back into 
Mountain Lion, until Apple figures it out. I'll let y'all know what happens. I 
didn't have this much trouble going to Mountain Lion. 

Regards, 
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Re: add a copy to device menu in iTunes

[Ray Foret Jr]

It cannot be done, so far as I am aware.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> What do you mean instead of copying and pasting to your iDevice? I've never 
> used copy and paste to put something on my iPhone—I thought that couldn't be 
> done.
> 
> On 31 Oct 2013, at 5:57 pm, Dean Adams  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>  I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books 
>> etc library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead 
>> of copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a 
>> copy to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are 
>> copying the media from you would not have to move out of that library until 
>> you have finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by 
>> apple they need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put 
>> forward to its software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good 
>> please contact apple to suggest it . 
>> Regards Dean
>> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
>> breezepa...@gmail.com
>> Voip phone: +6124307 9248
>> landline Phone: +61243892195
>> Mobile: +61428133758
>> Skype and Twitter : deanadams9
>> 
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adding to doc in 10.9

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

I guess this was covered before, but, I assumed that it was the same in 10.9 as 
in 10.8.  How does one add to the doc in 10.9?  Doesn’t seem to be possible.


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Re: iCloud Keychain and Password Generation in Mavericks

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In Safari Prefs, select the Passwords tab and make sure that “Auto Save 
Usernames and Passwords” is checked.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Orin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Does anyone know how to do this in Safari on Mavericks? It’s enabled on both 
> my phone and the Mac, but I’m curious how to do it on the Mac.
> I looked it up and I don’t see the “popover” that Mac sites are saying will 
> come up in the password field and if it does come up, I don’t know how to 
> make VoiceOver see it.
> Thanks.
> Orin
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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[Nicholas Parsons]

1. It seems to me the voices on iOS 7 are the same as on OS X 10.9. At least, 
certain new bugs in the Karen voice on iOS 7 have also appeared in the Karen 
voice in Mavericks.
2. If the voices are not the same, the settings other than the voices could be 
synced. E.g. speed, punctuation, etcetera.
3. This doesn't have to synchronise Macs with iOS devices. It could just be for 
syncing Macs with Macs, and iOS devices with iOS devices.
4. Yes, iCloud currently backs up VoiceOver preferences, but it doesn't sync 
them between devices. The fact that VO preferences are backed up to iCloud only 
makes this more possible. When I add a new keyboard commander setting on one 
Mac, for instance, the same should appear on my other Mac next time it connects 
to the internet.

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Re: adding to doc in 10.9

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It’s now cmd-ctrl-shift-t.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Okay,
> 
> I guess this was covered before, but, I assumed that it was the same in 10.9 
> as in 10.8.  How does one add to the doc in 10.9?  Doesn’t seem to be 
> possible.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
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Re: Fantastical for Mac

[Christina C.]

I honestly do not find many features I can use on the mac version of 
Fantastical.  It’s very tricky. Plus, you can navigate around the month view of 
the calendar but VO won’t announce if you have any events on that day. Well, it 
does not on my computer.  I mainly purchased the app because I just found it so 
easy to enter an event. That is the only thing I use it for. 

Good Luck,

Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Thanks, Christina—not in front of my iMac now but will try this out next 
> chance I get. Sounds promising!
> Nic
> On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:36 am, Christina C.  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> OK, I found it. It does not pop up after hovering the mouse. That was 
>> something different. I can explain that later if need be but for now. Here 
>> is the calendar. When you are in the app, the very first item you will here 
>> right before the edit box to add a new event says “dim calendar”. Just 
>> interact with that. then VO arrow around. I have noticed some behavior 
>> changes with Maverick. I keep having to access the application chooser to 
>> access Fantastical, and I never had to do this before. It’s like VO keeps 
>> loosing focus on Fantastical.
>> 
>> Let me know if I can help further :)
>> Christina 
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Christina C.  wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, I have this app. I believe getting to the calendar view is very tricky. 
>>> I will try to look at it. I do not use the app for that. I only use it to 
>>> add calendar events. I can’t explain why but I just much prefer Fantastical 
>>> for this. If I remember correctly, the calendar view pops up when the mouse 
>>> hovers over something. I will ask my son to look at it with me and get back 
>>> to you soon. :)
>>> 
>>> Christina
>>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:17 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
 Hey Nic 
 It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about 
 accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for 
 instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people 
 care. 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:08 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
> I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras?  The one you get by pressing 
> control+F8?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 10:47 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I downloaded the free 14 day trial of Fantastical for Mac. I managed to 
>> get through the set up process fine, but seem to be having some issues 
>> with the app.
>> 
>> The app doesn't appear to have a window. I can only seem to access  some 
>> kind of system menu, and this only displays a search field and list of 
>> events and reminders. I can't seem to actually see a calendar view.
>> 
>> I want to let the developer know about this, but want to confirm my 
>> findings with someone else first so I can give the developer accurate 
>> and useful information in my report. Similarly, if someone else has 
>> already contacted them about accessibility then maybe it's not worth the 
>> bother.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Nic
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Help please, I can't open attachments in mail after Mavericks download

[Sharon Ballantyne]

Hi All,

I am probably missing something really simple but I have no idea how to open 
attachments in Mavericks update using regular apple mail.

I used to use quick look attachments and open the file now I can’t seem to get 
any attachment into focus.

Any help greatly appreciated.

I am also noticing my voice over voice periodically fading and coming back up. 
I haven’t experienced these changes before Mavericks, which incidentally took 
nearly nine hours to complete the download. It is like it has the hiccups. 

Lastly, what are people recommending as the word processor of choice on the Mac?

Thank-you very much.

Sharon

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setting up time capsule?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

My husband got me one of the new time capsules for my birthday.  Anyone have 
any pointers or advice on how to set it up?  Our wireless network is currently 
set up on an Airport Extreme.
thanks,
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Help please! I can't open attachments after mavericks download using apple mail

[Helena Fehr]

Hi! I usually save my attachments, and then I can open them whenever I want. 
Saving them works the same way it did before on Mountain Lion. I've never 
opened them in the email itself though. You might want to see if that works. 
Just make sure you know where you saved the attachments, or you won't be able 
to find them to open them.
God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
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Re: Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences

[Alex Hall]

I agree with this suggestion. Crossing iOS and Mac would be difficult, but 
sticking to one or the other and syncing across all devices on one platform 
makes perfect sense. I’d love to be able to sign in and have all my VO settings 
come across, at least as many as are possible. Some just won’t work, such as 
commanders for files a computer does not have, but most should sync just fine.
On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> 1. It seems to me the voices on iOS 7 are the same as on OS X 10.9. At least, 
> certain new bugs in the Karen voice on iOS 7 have also appeared in the Karen 
> voice in Mavericks.
> 2. If the voices are not the same, the settings other than the voices could 
> be synced. E.g. speed, punctuation, etcetera.
> 3. This doesn't have to synchronise Macs with iOS devices. It could just be 
> for syncing Macs with Macs, and iOS devices with iOS devices.
> 4. Yes, iCloud currently backs up VoiceOver preferences, but it doesn't sync 
> them between devices. The fact that VO preferences are backed up to iCloud 
> only makes this more possible. When I add a new keyboard commander setting on 
> one Mac, for instance, the same should appear on my other Mac next time it 
> connects to the internet.
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Re: fantastical 2 is an app I like more than apple calendar

[Danny Noonan]

If that's turning the phone to landscape mode I can't make use of it. If it's 
something else I don't think so. 


Danny. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Nov 2013, at 9:40 am, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> Cool! I didn’t know about swiping the day ticker left or right. Did you get 
> the month view calendar? This is my favorite feature along with being able to 
> see my reminders on the same page. I never thought about using the rotor and 
> headings to move through my list.
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>> Go to Settings help and the last option is to contact them. 
>> 
>> I quite like the date ticker  only being the date as it suits it's function 
>> IMO. Also when date ticker is in focus a 3 finger swipe left or right moves 
>> by 3 days. To add to that when the events section, ie events and reminders, 
>> roter on headings will move day by day and 3 finger swipe up or down will 
>> scroll larger amounts although I've found this a tad buggy as focus jumps 
>> back to my start point at times. I'll tap and hold on the month heading and 
>> jump straight to the date or nearbye it and then use the date ticker or 
>> headings in events to check round the date I want. 
>> 
>> Sorry if this is obvious to some. I've only played with the app for 40 
>> minutes and with no mention of VoiceOver anywhere I had to reinvent the 
>> wheel a bit. It's a different beast to apples calendar app. Smile. 
>> 
>> 
>> Danny. 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:08 am, "Christina C."  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have no idea how to contact or find the contact info for the developer 
>>> and I have also never done this before, so this would be new territory for 
>>> me. :)  I know this sounds sad but I never feel like I can sound smart 
>>> enough to be convincing. LOL!
>>> 
>>> Christina
 On Oct 30, 2013, at 6:17 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 This sounds great I will go get it now. I've always heard good things 
 about Fantastical but until Apple stuffed up Calendar in iOS 7 I never 
 thought I'd need it because Apple's Calendar was great. I've always wanted 
 to see my calendar events and reminders/ToDo's in one place though, so 
 this point really sold me.
 
 Regarding VoiceOver not announcing the day of the week in month view: How 
 about contacting the developer on this issue? That should be something the 
 developer could easily address and I agree it would be a really useful 
 feature for VoiceOver users. 
 
 Just while we're on the topic of calendars, I also downloaded the trial 
 version of BusyCal for Mac. It has fantastic features, but unfortunately 
 the actual calendar part of the application seems completely invisible to 
 VoiceOver. It also seems to make VoiceOver really sluggish. I will contact 
 the developer though and hopefully might be able to work something out.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: iCloud Keychain and Password Generation in Mavericks

[Orin]

It is. But I wasn’t talking about that, apparenty there is a strong password 
generator in Safari now that I want to generate my passwords and store them in 
that password area on iCloud.

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> Hi,
> 
> In Safari Prefs, select the Passwords tab and make sure that “Auto Save 
> Usernames and Passwords” is checked.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Orin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Does anyone know how to do this in Safari on Mavericks? It’s enabled on both 
>> my phone and the Mac, but I’m curious how to do it on the Mac.
>> I looked it up and I don’t see the “popover” that Mac sites are saying will 
>> come up in the password field and if it does come up, I don’t know how to 
>> make VoiceOver see it.
>> Thanks.
>> Orin
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>> 
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Re: Downloading Mavericks

[Pete Nalda]

Well, I had heard it had taken that long for some people.

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Wow!
> 
> 5 hours?  It took me less than 1 to download and install.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:42 PM, Pete Nalda  wrote:
>> 
>> The time reporting isn’t always accurate, and there will be fluctuations, 
>> that have to do with your machine processing the download, as well as 
>> fluctuations in your connection (all connections fluctuate.  I’d plan on at 
>> around 5 hours, as it could take up to that.
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 5:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Tim. Can view it now, all good. Not so good is the time it will 
>>> take. It reckons its only done 28%, 1.86GB and has a fluctuating time 
>>> remaining, maybe a couple of hours. I will be waiting a long time. Let's 
>>> hope it works.
>>> 
>>> Regards Janine
>>> 
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
>>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:28 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Downloading Mavericks
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Press cmd-4 while in the App Store to bring up your Purchase History.  You 
>>> can then Interact with the Purchases Table and navigate to the Mavericks 
>>> row to check its progress.  It all depends on your network connection and 
>>> how busy Apple’s servers are for how fast it will download.  Note, though, 
>>> that Mavericks is about 5.29 GB so it could take a while.
>>> 
>>> Later…
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:16 PM, The Smiths  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> I am currently downloading OSX Mavericks v 10.9. It keeps saying downloading
>>> and tells me I am on a button that is dimmed. It has been nearly 2 hours. Is
>>> this the usual time?
>>> 
>>> How do I found out how far I am through the downloading process, is there a
>>> progress indicator I can find? I can't find any indication of progress.
>>> 
>>> Also, not related totally to mavericks, re downloading from the app store, I
>>> was under the impression, from the documentation, that an icon of the app
>>> that is downloaded, goes to the dock. This does not seem to be happening for
>>> me. I can manually add to the dock from the application file. Any ideas
>>> please would be appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Janine 
>>> 
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Re: iCloud Keychain and Password Generation in Mavericks

[Tim Kilburn]

Hmm.  Sorry, I must have missed that.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Orin  wrote:

> It is. But I wasn’t talking about that, apparenty there is a strong password 
> generator in Safari now that I want to generate my passwords and store them 
> in that password area on iCloud.
> 
> Orin
> orin8...@gmail.com
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> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:56 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In Safari Prefs, select the Passwords tab and make sure that “Auto Save 
>> Usernames and Passwords” is checked.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Orin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Does anyone know how to do this in Safari on Mavericks? It’s enabled on 
>>> both my phone and the Mac, but I’m curious how to do it on the Mac.
>>> I looked it up and I don’t see the “popover” that Mac sites are saying will 
>>> come up in the password field and if it does come up, I don’t know how to 
>>> make VoiceOver see it.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Orin
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>>> 
>>> 
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What Safari Extensions Do You Find Useful with Voiceover

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I never have made a lot of use of extensions in safari, as I found awhile back 
that a lot of them had some difficulties with voiceover and made the web 
browsing experience a little clutter some. I wanted to see if anyone had any 
extensions they thought added to the voiceover safari browsing experience. If 
you do post away. Thanks,

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Re: Help please, I can't open attachments in mail after Mavericks download

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi,
You can do quick look (command y) when just focusing on the message in your 
inbox. You don’t need to open the message first, just put your cursor on it and 
do command y. 

Hope that helps.

Lisette

On 1/11/2013, at 3:10 pm, Sharon Ballantyne  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I am probably missing something really simple but I have no idea how to open 
> attachments in Mavericks update using regular apple mail.
> 
> I used to use quick look attachments and open the file now I can’t seem to 
> get any attachment into focus.
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> I am also noticing my voice over voice periodically fading and coming back 
> up. I haven’t experienced these changes before Mavericks, which incidentally 
> took nearly nine hours to complete the download. It is like it has the 
> hiccups. 
> 
> Lastly, what are people recommending as the word processor of choice on the 
> Mac?
> 
> Thank-you very much.
> 
> Sharon
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Re: Anyway to get mail to follow rules in IOS

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Ricardo,

Of course I went to gmail in safari and go figure I open the rotor and tried to 
find labels and filters and neither comes up when using the web rotor to 
navigate links. How do you set these up in gmail when gmail still seems to be 
very inaccessible on the web? Thanks,
On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> if your using gmail, and your using IMAP, you need to go to the gmail site 
> and set up the rules, which they call filters, and folders, which they call 
> labels on the gmail site.  then, the changes will be reflected across all 
> your devices.  You set up a rule on the Mac, it only affect messages on your 
> Mac.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Oct 31, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> I am sure I am not the only one experiencing this. I use a Mac at home still 
>> running Mt. Lion, yes no reason for me to upgrade with all the gmail 
>> nightmares I have heard about. Anyway I have rules set up for this list and 
>> other lists I am on on my desktop and laptop to send all these messages to 
>> another mailbox and not my inbox. Unfortunately for some reason on my iPhone 
>> these messages don't obey the rules which when I am not at home has become a 
>> real pain as they go to my main inbox. Has anyone figured out a way to get 
>> the list messages to obey the same rules on your iPhone? If everything is 
>> being synched through iCloud you would think they would follow the rules you 
>> have set up in mammal. Thanks for any help.
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Re: add a copy to device menu in iTunes

[Dean Adams]

Hi Nicolas ,
If you are manually managing your music the only way to get music onto 
your Idevice is to copy and paste it from your music library I have over 250 gb 
of music so automatically syncing all music is not an option . I do not use 
playlists .
Any suggestion is well worth considering if it makes life easier.

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On 1 Nov 2013, at 12:46 pm, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> What do you mean instead of copying and pasting to your iDevice? I've never 
> used copy and paste to put something on my iPhone—I thought that couldn't be 
> done.
> 
> On 31 Oct 2013, at 5:57 pm, Dean Adams  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>>  I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books 
>> etc library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead 
>> of copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a 
>> copy to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are 
>> copying the media from you would not have to move out of that library until 
>> you have finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by 
>> apple they need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put 
>> forward to its software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good 
>> please contact apple to suggest it . 
>> Regards Dean
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Re: iPod Nano 6th gen syncing

[Dean Adams]

Hi Sarai,
Once you have selected the music navigate to your devices list and then 
stop when it says Sarai Ipod etc, then paste it there this works for me at 
least .

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On 1 Nov 2013, at 3:13 am, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Hi guys:
> I have a iPod Nano,  Macbook Pro running ML and the latest versions of 
> iTunes. I can no longer copy and paste songs to my Nano. I have manually 
> manage music checked, sync selected playlists and music checked, disk mode 
> checked, and side bar enabled. I can copy music to clipboard, move to iPod, 
> check music, interact with the table of existing songs on iPod. When I try to 
> paste, nothing happens. Help!
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RE: setting up time capsule?

[Kliphton -------]

Just export your current settings from the old airport extreme, and import
them to the new time capsule.  It works like a charm and 100 percent voice
over accessible.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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Subject: setting up time capsule?

Hi all,

My husband got me one of the new time capsules for my birthday.  Anyone have
any pointers or advice on how to set it up?  Our wireless network is
currently set up on an Airport Extreme.
thanks,
Donna

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