Dear Anne, You are a genius! Checking the option to wrap text to page in both TextEdit and iText in the preferences seems to have done the trick! Hooray! Nothing is broken. It shows how important it is to ask the list first before one sends off a report to Apple accessibility. I'm so glad to have both the applications back and working.
Thank you! I hope it will do the same for Daniella. Andrew On 31 Oct 2013, at 14:00, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > program to burn movies on the mac? [1 Update] > add a copy to device menu in iTunes [2 Updates] > Alternates to Apple Mail [2 Updates] > Fantastical for Mac [2 Updates] > request. automatic updates. voice over feature. [5 Updates] > finder busy in large folders and can't create new users [2 Updates] > App to copy CDs on mac [4 Updates] > Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences [5 Updates] > TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to [2 Updates] > program to burn movies on the mac? > Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> Oct 31 08:52AM -0500 > > Okay, we got a new car, and it has a dvd player in it. And since there is no > way for me to hook up my 4TB USB drive in the car and play movies that way. I > need a program that is going to allow me to burn movies to blank DVD’s. Does > anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. > Kliphton > ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton....@outlook.com > ~Twitter,Instagram,foursquare&Skype~ kliphton72 > [Text only] 914-820-2298 > (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > > add a copy to device menu in iTunes > Dean Adams <breezepa...@gmail.com> Oct 31 05:57PM +1100 > > Hi All, > I have an idea for apple for I tunes when you are in your music books etc > library and you have selected media to copy to your I device if instead of > copyuing and pasting to your Iphone or Ipad or Ipod if they could add a copy > to device menu choice when you are still in the library that you are copying > the media from you would not have to move out of that library until you have > finished copying media to your chosen device . I have been told by apple they > need as many other people to suggest this menu addition to put forward to its > software engineerrs so if you like me think it is a good please contact apple > to suggest it . > Regards Dean > Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro > breezepa...@gmail.com > Voip phone: +6124307 9248 > landline Phone: +61243892195 > Mobile: +61428133758 > Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 > > Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Oct 31 06:51AM -0700 > > Would this be different from right-clicking on a library item, choosing “add > to playlist” and selecting your device? I do that a lot. > > Teresa > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > > Alternates to Apple Mail > Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Oct 30 05:20PM -0400 > > MacWorld had an article which reviewed a dozen or so alternate mail apps > to try if Apple Mail just won't cooperate. Not sure how many of them are > accessible, but it's a start for those who are ready to jump ship. > > http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-you-can-try.html > > CB > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Oct 31 06:47AM -0700 > > I can verify that Mail Mate is very accessible. It has a trial, and for me > the price tag is a bit steep at $30. so far, I’m sticking with Mac Mail, but > it was good to know this one was out there. > > teresa > > "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too > dark to read."--Groucho Marx > > > Fantastical for Mac > Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Oct 31 05:08AM -0500 > > I assume you’ve looked at the menu extras? The one you get by pressing > control+F8? > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > > Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Oct 31 08:17AM -0500 > > Hey Nic > It's just about always worth the bother to contact a developer about > accessibility because otherwise, if only one person has done it, for > instance, they think that it's a little thing and only a very few people > care. > Regards, > Gigi > > > request. automatic updates. voice over feature. > Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> Oct 31 05:29PM +1100 > > Seems to me Apple could push out updates to VoiceOver if they wanted to, just > as they push other updates for raw camera compatibility and the like, even > though those aren't separate applications. > More frequent updates to VoiceOver would be good. However, the main > accessibility issues we have are not problems with VoiceOver, but typically > problems in other apps. It's those apps that need to be updated to improve > accessibility, not VoiceOver. For instance, in Mountain Lion it's iBooks, > Pages, Mail, Calendar and Finder which need updates, not VoiceOver. Well, > there are a couple of issues with some of the voices messing some things up, > but that's a different issue as it's Nuance that needs to address those > issues. > Having said all this, Mario, I'd be happy to write the email for you if you > like, and then you can send it from your own email account. I'll wait and > hear what other people on this list have to say first, however, as it's > probably wise to take on board other feedback. > Cheers, > Nic > > mario navarro <mario....@gmail.com> Oct 31 08:29AM > > hi nicholas. > I know that most times the problems are the apps, apps are standard > sustema osx, or other companies. > but the voice over also has some bugs in certain apps that to be fixed. > The voice over is not immune to bugs. > we all know that screen readers have bugs whatever they are. > and also has voice over. > It would also automatic updates for new features. > nicholas ok, if the group agrees with the automatic updates, I want you > to write the ticket for me to send. > I'll be super grateful. > > thanks friend nicholas. > cheers. > Em 31/10/2013 06:29, Nicholas Parsons escreveu: > > BBS <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> Oct 31 03:49AM -0500 > > I can tell you my answer right now. Voiceover doesn’t need to be like Jaws or > Window-Eyes updating all the time. Even if Voiceover were updated constantly, > that wouldn’t solve anything. The apps that have been inaccessible will > remain inaccessible until the app developers fix those issues themselves. And > as far as Voiceover having bugs in the app, hate to say this, but you’ve > pretty much said your problem yourself, that the apps are the problem and not > Voiceover. So no, Voiceover doesn’t need automatic updates. We don’t need to > go through the same hell we go through with Windows screen readers. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > > mario navarro <mario....@gmail.com> Oct 31 09:17AM > > no, what I said, is that the voice over also has bugs independently of apps. > sorry but I do not think that way . > > I only want the best for the voice over, I'm not comparing windows and mac. > please do not misunderstand me . > > cheers. > Em 31/10/2013 08:49, BBS escreveu: > > Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> Oct 31 07:13AM -0600 > > Hi, > > The issue with automatic updates to VoiceOver has been skirted around here > but not clearly enough in my opinion. VoiceOver is not just a bolted on app > to the MacOS, it is a part of the OS itself. While you could update specific > code within the screenreader service, the majority of fixes actually are > within the coding of the system itself. That is, the way that either the OS > handles a process or the method by which Apple or third party apps handle > system resources often cause the problems we have with the VO interface. The > use of custom elements within apps is outside the scope and of VO updates > but, when, addressed affect VO accessibility. So, what I’m saying, is that I > don’t believe that updates to VO can necessarily be easily separated from OS > updates other than through “Supplemental” sorts of things. > > JMO. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > > finder busy in large folders and can't create new users > Dean Adams <breezepa...@gmail.com> Oct 31 05:51PM +1100 > > Hi Richard and Eugenia , > Many thanks for letting me know but it is important that we all report these > issues to apple as others have stated these things are issues with mavericks > and its applications not voice over as it seems . > > Regards Dean > Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro > breezepa...@gmail.com > Voip phone: +6124307 9248 > landline Phone: +61243892195 > Mobile: +61428133758 > Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 > > > Dean Adams <breezepa...@gmail.com> Oct 31 09:43PM +1100 > > Hi All, > I have had a call back about both of the issue and they have told me that it > is an issue with voice over and the have esculated it to the software team . > > Regards Dean > Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro > breezepa...@gmail.com > Voip phone: +6124307 9248 > landline Phone: +61243892195 > Mobile: +61428133758 > Skype and Twitter : deanadams9 > > > App to copy CDs on mac > Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> Oct 31 09:19AM +0100 > > Hello! > One of my students wants an app to copy CDs, he used Nero in Windows. As I > don’t copy CDs, I just don’t know what to tell him. > I will appreciate any ideas! Thank you very much! > Best > > Daniela Rubio T > iphone: +34662328507 > > > > Daniela Rubio T > Distinguished Educator > iPhone: +34662328507 > > Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Oct 31 05:12AM -0500 > > Burn is a good choice for this. > > > Free and accessible. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > > Daniela Rubio <mabuha...@gmail.com> Oct 31 11:20AM +0100 > > Thank you so much! Is it on the Appstore? > Cheers! > > Daniela Rubio T > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > > Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Oct 31 05:28AM -0500 > > Nope, but, if you Bing or Googld it, it will pop right up. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > > Feature Request: iCloud Syncing of VoiceOver Preferences > Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> Oct 31 05:48PM +1100 > > Dear Apple Accessibility Team, > > With such deep integration of iCloud with so many aspects of iOS and OS X, > it's surprising that VoiceOver has so far been left out. Many VoiceOver users > own multiple Apple devices, and would benefit greatly from being able to sync > VoiceOver preferences across all their devices. > > Currently, for Mac, there is the portable preferences feature. Though no > doubt a good idea at the time, this is now a little out dated and clunky, > requiring a user to carry around a USB flash drive to plug into each mac, it > also seems to have troubles syncing preferences in multiple directions, at > least in my experience. I've also tried exporting my VoiceOver preferences to > a third party syncing service (Dropbox), but this also does not seem to work > smoothly. It doesn't seem to export or import my pronunciation and keyboard > commander preferences, for example. > > iCloud seems like the perfect solution for this problem. It could offer > seamless syncing of VoiceOver preferences across multiple Apple devices, > without needing to carry around the same portable flash drive. It could offer > syncing between Macs, between iOS devices and even between Macs and iOS > devices so far as the same preferences were applicable. > > I hope you consider this for a future update to VoiceOver and both iOS and OS > X. > > Thank you for all your great work. > > Kind regards, > Nic > > Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> Oct 31 07:31AM > > Unless I am misunderstanding I can't see this going to work. VoiceOver > uses different voices on both iOS and Mac. So if they are going to > implement this on the mac then it will have to work across macs only. > VoiceOver settings are already synced to iCloud as part of documents and > data. In my experience when restoring my iPhone 4s from an iCloud backup > made on the iPhone 4, all my VoiceOver settings came across except for > the voice, but that's a different matter altogether. > > E-mail Facebook and iMessage > christopher...@gmail.com > > On 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > > mario navarro <mario....@gmail.com> Oct 31 08:44AM > > nicholas, I liked that! > yes it would be great! ! > the voice over has to innovate! > to me, it seems that voice over are stopped in time ... > we have to be to inform accessibility support so they listen to us. > thanks nicholas. > I agree. > cheers. > Em 31/10/2013 06:48, Nicholas Parsons escreveu: > > BBS <bigbigshawn....@gmail.com> Oct 31 04:01AM -0500 > > Ok, Chris and Mario, let’s be logical here. That idea will not work. But > let’s play devil’s advocate for a minute. Let’s say that it did work. Let’s > say that syncing Voiceover preferences to all Apple devices worked. That > would mean that every voice from the Mac would have to be installed on the > iPhone or whatever I-device the person has. And since the current I-devices > right now don’t have big enough hard drives to hold all those voices, Apple > would have to create brand new I-devices that are capable of storing those > big voices. Now think about it for a second. Would you want to pay big bucks > for an I-device, the same amount maybe that we paid for our Macs, just so you > can sync all your Voiceover preferences that are on your Macs to those > devices. I don’t think so. So it isn’t pheasable to have such a feature. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > > mario navarro <mario....@gmail.com> Oct 31 09:43AM > > the updates of the voices are very small files. > but could be considered only for mac. > this feature could be just for mac. > for mac what is the mac, and ios what is ios. > cheers. > Em 31/10/2013 09:01, BBS escreveu: > > TextEdit and iText no longer work under Maverick like they used to > Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 31 08:49AM +0100 > > Hello Andrew, > > I’ve just been editing a fairly long RTF document with TextEdit, and it works > fine as long as it is set to Wrap to Window. In TextEdit, press Cmd-Shift-w > to switch between Wrap to Page and Wrap to Window. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Oct 31 08:51AM +0100 > > Hello Daniela, > > I don’t know why this isn’t working for you. With it set to Wrap to Window, > it all works fine for me. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
