Re: Follow up to Moderator Note yesterday concerning donations for one of our own
Hi Mark, Just want to say that thinking of you and Amy and the two dogs. Hanging there mate, it will be a long recovery for Amy, but she'll make it. Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:21, Mark BurningHawk Baxter > wrote: > > If the "him, "in question is me, HOK, we are already friends, and I believe I > am also friends with almost everyone here. If I am not online, I am away, and > will get back to you as soon as I can. > > The good news, however small, is that Amy did move a very little of both her > arms and legs today. > > Thanks again for everyone who showing their support. It is a long road ahead > for Amy, she needs all the encouraging she can to get her back to walking and > driving again. > > Sent from my iPhone > > Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 > My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter > > >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, eric oyen wrote: >> >> have him get on Skype. some of us are faster with speech than keyboard >> skills. Also, its good to hear a voice on the far end of things offering >> support. >> >> my Skype: technomage-hawke >> >> -eric >> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>> >>> Hello again All, >>> >>> I just wanted to give you an update on Mark and Amy's story. >>> >>> Firstly though, please let me offer my sincere and deepest thanks to you >>> all who have shown your support and well-wishes. This not only means a >>> tremendous amount to Mark and Amy, but also means the world to me that we >>> can come together as a community to support each other when we are in need. >>> >>> Some of you have asked where the donations will go. Any donations will be >>> used for expenses associated with this incident and the medical care from >>> this. Mark has said that he will keep a record of everything associated >>> with this. Already it cost hundreds of dollars for Mark to simply tow Amy's >>> car back home. This cost has now been taken care of for them, fortunately. >>> So thank you all! :) >>> >>> You all are making a real difference here so I'm truly grateful to you!… >>> >>> Now, I'd like to share Mark's email address here so that you may send your >>> support to him. If you cannot offer financial support then please do >>> consider offering Amy and him your most valuable emotional support. It is >>> truly welcome… >>> >>> Below I'll first share Mark's email address and then a copy of the recent >>> article in a local Oregon paper about this incident which also offers an >>> update on Amy's condition. If you would like to know more, please do write >>> directly to Mark if you would? >>> >>> Now that this is known here, please let me suggest that we now move this to >>> a more personal level off the lists. Feel free to write me or Mark and do >>> be assured that any developments, I will share. Otherwise, I'm happy (and >>> will now encourage us) to continue this off the lists. >>> >>> Thanks so very, very much to you all for your support! I cannot express >>> enough how much this means to them and to me. >>> >>> Y'all are AWESOME!!! >>> >>> Have a wonderful weekend! Info and article follow… >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Cara >>> --- >>> Email Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com >>> >>> The Article >>> >>> The Curry Coastal Pilot - Couple survives hiking ordeal >>> >>> >>> Mark Baxter and his girlfriend Amy Regan with their dogs, who were >>> instrumental in efforts to rescue Amy after a hiking accident. Submitted >>> photo >>> Brookings resident Mark Baxter still isn’t sure what to make of what he >>> calls his misadventure along Damnation Creek near Klamath last weekend — an >>> afternoon jaunt that landed his girlfriend, Amy Regan, in ICU in Portland >>> with a broken back and no feeling in her arms and legs. >>> “There was a bunch of stupid decisions all down the line,” Baxter said >>> Wednesday of what was supposed to have been an easy afternoon hike. “I got >>> lucky. I got damn lucky.” >>> The two didn’t bring a survival kit, and were wearing sweatpants and >>> T-shirts. A friend has since reassured them that their clothing sounded >>> appropriate for a two-hour hike along a popular trail. >>> The 3.4-mile trek threads through a redwood forest down 1,000 vertical feet >>> into a rocky, secluded beach. It’s rated “easy,” and the couple are >>> experienced hikers. >>> “At first, the trail was great, so we continued,” Baxter said. “By the time >>> it got narrow and steep again, and Amy could see the ocean through the >>> trees ahead, we needed to turn back; it was getting dark.” >>> When they did, Regan and her dog, Luke, slipped and fell from the steep >>> embankment. Baxter later learned she likely slipped on rotting timbers left >>> from an old footbridge. >>> “I heard her fall, cry out, then a crash, then nothing,” Baxter said. “I >>> c
Re: Mavericks and Gmail
HI Janet, NO, if you use POP your mail won't sync between your devices. That's the huge advantage of IMAP, that it keeps your mail synced on all devices. So long as you have All Mail turned on in gmail settings on the server side, it seems gmail and Mail are now playing reasonably nicely with most people after sometime for things to settle down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your formatting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
As for moving between mailboxes, can't you add your nine most frequently accessed mailboxes to the favourites bar and then switch between them with command-1 through 9? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Podcasts on Mavericks
Am I missing something, or is there an almost total absence of podcasts on Mavericks? I find it funny that on the day iOS 7 was released there was an explosion of podcasts on every tiny little insignificant change from iOS 6, but half a week later still none on the 200 new features and two completely new apps in Mavericks. I guess it just shows the difference in popularity between iOS and Mac. I'm sure the Tech Doctor will have a great podcast on Mavericks soon, and I know the Maccessibility Round Table is focusing on Mavericks next episode (this Thurs I believe), but it seems a desperately long time for someone like me, craving Mavericks info, to wait. At least if I resist upgrading before then the info will be that much more exciting, rather than listening to people discuss what I've already discovered. Anyway, if anyone knows of any podcasts I've somehow missed please let me know. Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
no longer told if messages are read and unread
Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t even get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How if possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the last thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at all. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
That is very very bad, as there is a lot of people who works with many paragraph stiles and fields. I really don’ like it, hope it can be fixed, may be we can try reporting it to the iWork team and see what they say. Daniela Rubio T Distinguished Educator iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons escribió: > If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your > formatting? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
pop 3 question again
So, to change the selection of the account type for my gmail account from imap to pop, I have to delete my account and start over? I don’t see a check box or anything to switch this out in mail preferences. also, do I have to go to the web site and disable imap? thanks! Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
MacBook air for sale, please reply off list!
Hello, I have a MacBook air for sale. Barely 9 months old, and gently used. If you would like more info, please contact me at kliphton@outlook.com That is my email as well as my iMessage Any reply's on list will be ignored. There are other contact methods in my signature. Thanks. Kliphton ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Hotkey For Moving Apps To The Dock in Mavericks
According to this list it is command shift control t. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 27/10/2013 05:00, BBS wrote: Hi guys. Since command+option+T now hides or shows the toolbar, is there a new hotkey to place apps from the Finder to the dock? Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse pointer where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, what key do you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? Kliphton (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" wrote: I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures that I do. HtH, Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille > wrote: > > Hi Teresa > > How do you disable the preview pane? > > Debbie > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran > Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail > > As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and with > five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than > five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without > having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) > > Teresa > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: A cautionary note about Mavericks installer
This is similar to Mountain Lion so nothing new there apart from the issue you had. Not brave enough to tinker with my mac yet grin. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 27/10/2013 00:17, Joseph Norton wrote: Hi list: I’ve been experimenting with Mavericks and have a couple minor observations regarding the installer. First, upgrading went smoothly. However, I enjoy tinkering, so, I also did an install using USB media, and, finally, with the recovery partition. With the USB installer, the install was smooth, once I booted into it. However, with the recovery partition, the installer required me to sign into my Apple account. First, when the sign in dialog came up, I had to use the Window chooser to get into the Window. But, I would navigate to the user name and password section, but, I couldn’t type there. The thing that solved this seems strange, but, it worked. Using VoiceOver commands, I navigated to the Forgot button, pressed it, and, it then let me type in my credentials. Not sure why that worked, but, it’s what happened to me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
Open the menu bar - control f2 open the dock - control f3 open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - control f8 These work even with VoiceOver off. -- E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: pop 3 question again
Yes, delete the Gmail account on your computer, and no you do not need to disable imap. So long as pop is enabled it should work. Also I suggestin using the other option when adding a new account. It would seem that if you add a Google or Gmail account then it will set it up as what I believe to be a webmail account. After selecting other choose add mail account. This way you will then have the ability to use either imap or pop. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 27/10/2013 00:03, Maggie's Dobermail wrote: So, to change the selection of the account type for my gmail account from imap to pop, I have to delete my account and start over? I don’t see a check box or anything to switch this out in mail preferences. also, do I have to go to the web site and disable imap? thanks! Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
cannot use the same user account and other upgrade issues
When setting up the computer it wants me to setup a user account and I want to sue my account that is already setup on the machine but it will not let me. It also complains about the account name of the computer. How do I get past this? The error I receive is this name cannot be used. I receive this error every time I attempt to setup the computer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user
What if one wanted to do a clean install? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Craig Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi, Upgrading will not effect bootcamp. If you want to upgrade and not do a clean install all you have to do is go to the software update and tell it to install Maverick. It is wise to backup first but it seems to be a very safe installer. Once you've started the installation just wait and follow the prompts. It is very simple. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ramy moustafa Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi all: i have my macc mini with mountain lion installed, and i have windows 64 as a boot camp, now i need to install the mavericks, 1, will i need sited assistance to do so? 2, what about my booot camp, will it be affected?? 3, if you please, i need a tutorial or something on hhow to install this thhing, it's the 1st time for me. thanks so much Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
posting to group without gmail account
Listers, If I were to give up my gmail account, would I lose the ability to post and read posts in this group? I seem to remember that I was not able to join macvisionaries group without having a gmail e-mail address. If so, am I for ever imprisoned by gmail and google? Many thanks for your thoughts. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What happens to my TM backup that spans OS10 versions?
Hi, If you restore the machine back to the image that you made before you installed the new os the system will revert back to Lion if you choose to restore back to that specific point. Tom > On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > I made a Time Machine backup just before I installed maverix, my first-ever > use of Time Machine. I kept the drive plugged in after I upgraded, and it > just struck me: what happened to it? My personal files are, of course, > intact, but is that backup now “running” Mountain Lion or would the system > files have been updated as well? Could I use it to restore, or are the two OS > versions now entangled somehow? Should I wipe it and start over? > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
changing iTunes and appstore ID
Dear Listers, I am in the unfortunate position of having two apple IDs. One for the iCloud and one for the appstore and iTunes. This second one is my gmail address. Do you know whether this ID can be changed without affecting my up-to-date purchases in the iTunes store? Basically, I want to know whether I could get rid of my gmail account and find another email provider or just stay with my iCloud/me account. Thanks for any help you could offer. Please feel free to write off list if my question is somewhat off-topic. Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Bricked my Macbook Air. Is a genius the only option?
>From the below options, How do I select my wireless network? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Bricked my Macbook Air. Is a genius the only option? HI Mike, You mentioned you have a backup of your data? If you do, try starting your MBA and holding down the command and r keys when the chime sounds. Hold them for a few seconds. (at least 5 ish) Once you do that, you can then enable VoiceOver by pressing function-command-F5. This may take a few seconds to work. I sometimes seemingly need to do this a few times. ;) You'll see a table which should show you four options. One of these options should be Reinstall OS 10. >From here you can reinstall a clean copy of OSX. Once you do that, you can then restore from your Time Machine backup. Hope this helps! Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Mike wrote: Hi everyone, This morning I started the latest software update on my Macbook Air and maybe about half way through my two year old ran through the office, hooked the power cord on her foot, and yanked it out of the laptop. Now there is no power, no sounds, no signs of life at all. Fortunately I have a few backups so I'm not dying or anything but is there any tricks that I can do on my own before taking it to a genius? Thanks for any tips! Happy almost Halloween! Mike M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Daniela, You can report problems directly from the Pages app. In the Pages menu is an item called Provide Pages Feedback which goes to the appropriate page on the Apple website. I’ve already done this as I’m furious about the degradation in the functionality of Pages. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 11:03, Daniela Rubio wrote: > That is very very bad, as there is a lot of people who works with many > paragraph stiles and fields. I really don’ like it, hope it can be fixed, may > be we can try reporting it to the iWork team and see what they say. > > > Daniela Rubio T > Distinguished Educator > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons > escribió: > >> If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your >> formatting? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Hello Ray, If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read as each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always disable the preview pane. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t even > get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How if > possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the last > thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at all. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Anne, There are actually lots of keystrokes for changing font stiles and such. Have you looked in the keyboard shortcuts list in the help documentation? It seems that the hotkeys that could be set for paragraph styles are gone, but I don’t see that as a big degradation. It is actually very easy to jump into the formatter to set them. I understand the problems for some people caused by the absence of the mail merge fields and I haven’t been able to figure out how saving to rtf got left out, but I think that there is a good chance that they will be coming back soon. I think these apps have been totally re written and some features just haven’t made it back in yet. Most actually are there and people just can’t be bothered to find them. I’ve seen a lot of talk on the web saying that these apps have been dumbed down, and I personally think that those comments are really unfortunate and unfair. There is a lot here, and What is here seems quite good to me, and for the things that are missing, I think for now everybody should be willing to give them a chance. This is the app store age where new features can be instantly pushed out to millions of people for free. Take care. On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello everyone, I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where have they gone? I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important features such as merge fields and hotkeys. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
upgrading, downgrading, choices oh my!
Hey all: I'm considering upgrading my 2010 Macbook from Lion to Mavericks. Various people have told me my little old macbook should support the upgrade well enough, and it may run the new OS better than Lion. If this is not the case, or if I'm just ridiculously dissatisfied with mail and GMail, how easy is it to downgrade? Are there step-by-step instructions on downgrading somewhere? Also and somewhat related, I'm planning on giving this macbook to my brother once I purchase a new macbook air. What is the easiest way to remove all of my content, so my brother essentially gets a new machine with an OS on it? Thanks in advance! -John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Macupdate desktop on mavericks.
Hi. I have been using the macupdate desktop app for a very long time. Now it will not work in mavericks, that really surprises me, does anybody know why I can not use macupdate desktop anymore. Thank you an advance. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. 1. Switch mail to use classic view. 2. Close pref window. 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off and it don’t work. I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a Mac book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth keyboard and only a left side control key if that helps. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read as > each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always disable > the preview pane. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t even >> get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How if >> possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the last >> thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at all. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Follow up to Moderator Note yesterday concerning donations for one of our own
Amy 2.0 will be better, stronger, faster… Sent from my iPhone Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter > On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Just want to say that thinking of you and Amy and the two dogs. > Hanging there mate, it will be a long recovery for Amy, but she'll make it. > > > > Joanne Chua > The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. > Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate > Send from my iPad > >> On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:21, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> wrote: >> >> If the "him, "in question is me, HOK, we are already friends, and I believe >> I am also friends with almost everyone here. If I am not online, I am away, >> and will get back to you as soon as I can. >> >> The good news, however small, is that Amy did move a very little of both her >> arms and legs today. >> >> Thanks again for everyone who showing their support. It is a long road ahead >> for Amy, she needs all the encouraging she can to get her back to walking >> and driving again. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 >> My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter >> >> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> have him get on Skype. some of us are faster with speech than keyboard >>> skills. Also, its good to hear a voice on the far end of things offering >>> support. >>> >>> my Skype: technomage-hawke >>> >>> -eric >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: Hello again All, I just wanted to give you an update on Mark and Amy's story. Firstly though, please let me offer my sincere and deepest thanks to you all who have shown your support and well-wishes. This not only means a tremendous amount to Mark and Amy, but also means the world to me that we can come together as a community to support each other when we are in need. Some of you have asked where the donations will go. Any donations will be used for expenses associated with this incident and the medical care from this. Mark has said that he will keep a record of everything associated with this. Already it cost hundreds of dollars for Mark to simply tow Amy's car back home. This cost has now been taken care of for them, fortunately. So thank you all! :) You all are making a real difference here so I'm truly grateful to you!… Now, I'd like to share Mark's email address here so that you may send your support to him. If you cannot offer financial support then please do consider offering Amy and him your most valuable emotional support. It is truly welcome… Below I'll first share Mark's email address and then a copy of the recent article in a local Oregon paper about this incident which also offers an update on Amy's condition. If you would like to know more, please do write directly to Mark if you would? Now that this is known here, please let me suggest that we now move this to a more personal level off the lists. Feel free to write me or Mark and do be assured that any developments, I will share. Otherwise, I'm happy (and will now encourage us) to continue this off the lists. Thanks so very, very much to you all for your support! I cannot express enough how much this means to them and to me. Y'all are AWESOME!!! Have a wonderful weekend! Info and article follow… Sincerely, Cara --- Email Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com The Article The Curry Coastal Pilot - Couple survives hiking ordeal Mark Baxter and his girlfriend Amy Regan with their dogs, who were instrumental in efforts to rescue Amy after a hiking accident. Submitted photo Brookings resident Mark Baxter still isn’t sure what to make of what he calls his misadventure along Damnation Creek near Klamath last weekend — an afternoon jaunt that landed his girlfriend, Amy Regan, in ICU in Portland with a broken back and no feeling in her arms and legs. “There was a bunch of stupid decisions all down the line,” Baxter said Wednesday of what was supposed to have been an easy afternoon hike. “I got lucky. I got damn lucky.” The two didn’t bring a survival kit, and were wearing sweatpants and T-shirts. A friend has since reassured them that their clothing sounded appropriate for a two-hour hike along a popular trail. The 3.4-mile trek threads through a redwood forest down 1,000 vertical feet into a rocky, secluded beach. It’s rated “easy,” and the couple are experienced hikers. “At first, the trail was great, so we continued,” Baxter said. “By the time it got narrow and st
think I closed preview pain but not sure.
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks Isn't An Operating System, But An Update, was Re: Can't Download Mavericks
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Teresa hello Tresa Can you tell me how to create a bootable installation disk to install my MacBook Pro from scratch deleting everything from the first. Any help would be appreciated > Cochran wrote: > > Also, it is possible to create a bootable install. It’s just not easy to do. > once it’s downloaded, you have to manipulate the disc image that’s in the > apps folder or it will “disappear” once it’s installed. I had two download > errors before the third time became a charm. > > Teresa > > "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan > >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I think that rep is very mistaken. I mean, would you call IOS 7 just an >> update? That’s free too. Tell you what though, if it is just an update, >> it’s the largest update I’ve ever seen at over 5GB. haha. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:23 PM, BBS wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys. I kinda figured out why Mavericks was free and that I can’t >>> re-download it to make a bootable version. I just got off the phone with a >>> gentleman of Apple and he stated to me that Mavericks isn’t an OS, but an >>> update. He’s gonna send an article about it to me through email and when he >>> does, I’ll be sure to pass on the info. >>> >>> Shawn >>> Sent From My White Mac Book >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user
You have to create a bootable drive with a 8GB usb thumb stick, or a USB external drive that has been partitioned. I have done it twice, and it is really quite easy. Let me know if you need any help. My contact info is below. Kliphton ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reinhard Stebner Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user What if one wanted to do a clean install? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Craig Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi, Upgrading will not effect bootcamp. If you want to upgrade and not do a clean install all you have to do is go to the software update and tell it to install Maverick. It is wise to backup first but it seems to be a very safe installer. Once you've started the installation just wait and follow the prompts. It is very simple. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ramy moustafa Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi all: i have my macc mini with mountain lion installed, and i have windows 64 as a boot camp, now i need to install the mavericks, 1, will i need sited assistance to do so? 2, what about my booot camp, will it be affected?? 3, if you please, i need a tutorial or something on hhow to install this thhing, it's the 1st time for me. thanks so much Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
Hi, Nic, Done that. It’s full now! :) I often grab something out of the trash when I think of something to add to a thread. Mostly, I was referring to moving between the message list and mailboxes. Since i now only have the two panes set up, and I can just press return when I want to read a message in greater detail, this minimizes the keystrokes and navigation within the window. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > As for moving between mailboxes, can't you add your nine most frequently > accessed mailboxes to the favourites bar and then switch between them with > command-1 through 9? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Hello Ray, In Classic view, you go to the messages table but don’t interact with it. Make sure that Quick Nav is off. VO-Down Arrow and you should hear “Horizontal splitter”. Bring the mouse and double-click with the track pad. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. > > 1. Switch mail to use classic view. > > 2. Close pref window. > > 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter > thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. > 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. > > 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. > > 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. > > 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. > > I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off > and it don’t work. > > I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a Mac > book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth keyboard > and only a left side control key if that helps. > > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Ray, >> >> If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read as >> each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always disable >> the preview pane. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t even >>> get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How if >>> possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the last >>> thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at all. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Okay. So, after I double click with the track pad, do I slide my finger either left or right? IF not, how do I know the blasted pain is closed? Usually use standard view. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > In Classic view, you go to the messages table but don’t interact with it. > Make sure that Quick Nav is off. VO-Down Arrow and you should hear > “Horizontal splitter”. Bring the mouse and double-click with the track pad. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. >> >> 1. Switch mail to use classic view. >> >> 2. Close pref window. >> >> 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter >> thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. >> 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. >> >> 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. >> >> 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. >> >> 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. >> >> I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off >> and it don’t work. >> >> I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a Mac >> book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth keyboard >> and only a left side control key if that helps. >> >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read as >>> each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always disable >>> the preview pane. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t even get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How if possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the last thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at all. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous experience with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained Mavericks, I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. After the reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am getting the message "the operation could not be completed because not all the files are back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying things I needed individually for the time being. But the focus is all over the place, and the filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I get constant "finder busy" messages. So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again and tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically before the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how to do this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the message: "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". These problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would sincerely appreciate assistance. Christinesome of the files are backup -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Barry, Whether you think that Pages has been dumbed down or not depends on how you use it. For my purposes as a translator, the new version is not good at all. Yes, it’s easy to jump to the paragraph styles button in the formatter, but VO doesn’t read the name of the current style. Curiously, VO-Shift-c actually copies the name of the current style to the clipboard which can then be read in the Finder, but this is a lot of keystrokes to accomplish what I use to do with VO-Cmd-Hotspot number. The lack of sender fields and merge fields is also a very serious omission for people who run their own businesses. I have looked at the table of short cuts for Pages, but I don’t see anything that solves my problems. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 14:41, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hello Anne, > > There are actually lots of keystrokes for changing font stiles and such. > Have you looked in the keyboard shortcuts list in the help documentation? > It seems that the hotkeys that could be set for paragraph styles are gone, > but I don’t see that as a big degradation. It is actually very easy to jump > into the formatter to set them. > > I understand the problems for some people caused by the absence of the mail > merge fields and I haven’t been able to figure out how saving to rtf got left > out, but I think that there is a good chance that they will be coming back > soon. I think these apps have been totally re written and some features just > haven’t made it back in yet. Most actually are there and people just can’t > be bothered to find them. > > I’ve seen a lot of talk on the web saying that these apps have been dumbed > down, and I personally think that those comments are really unfortunate and > unfair. There is a lot here, and What is here seems quite good to me, and > for the things that are missing, I think for now everybody should be willing > to give them a chance. This is the app store age where new features can be > instantly pushed out to millions of people for free. > Take care. > > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I seriously hope I’m wrong about this, but I can’t find the merge fields > anywhere in the new Pages. This makes it very complicated, if not impossible, > to use Pages for mail shots and invoices. > > Another problem I’ve found is the lack of hotkeys for setting styles. Where > have they gone? > > I hope we haven’t gained easier access to tables in Pages, which we could > manage anyway with a bit of messing about, just to lose really important > features such as merge fields and hotkeys. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but don’t interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key on the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the horizontal splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can switch back to modern view in Mail preferences if you wish. HtH, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton --- wrote: > Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse pointer > where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, what key do > you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? > > > Kliphton > (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com > (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" > wrote: > > I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the > accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they > actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move > to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the > horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks the > mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to the > right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key with > numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track straight with > a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures that I do. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille > wrote: > >> Hi Teresa >> >> How do you disable the preview pane? >> >> Debbie >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail >> >> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and with >> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than >> five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without >> having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) >> >> Teresa >> >> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit
Re: Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
Hi, Do you have a backup from before you upgraded the os? Tom > On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous experience > with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained Mavericks, > I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. After the > reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am getting the > message "the operation could not be completed because not all the files are > back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying things I needed > individually for the time being. But the focus is all over the place, and the > filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I get constant "finder > busy" messages. > So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again and > tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically before > the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how to do > this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the message: > "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". These > problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would sincerely > appreciate assistance. > Christinesome of the files are backup > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Hello Ray, The track pad commander should be off. So, after the double-click, just do VO-Down Arrow and there should be nothing there. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 16:02, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Okay. So, after I double click with the track pad, do I slide my finger > either left or right? IF not, how do I know the blasted pain is closed? > > Usually use standard view. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Ray, >> >> In Classic view, you go to the messages table but don’t interact with it. >> Make sure that Quick Nav is off. VO-Down Arrow and you should hear >> “Horizontal splitter”. Bring the mouse and double-click with the track pad. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. >>> >>> 1. Switch mail to use classic view. >>> >>> 2. Close pref window. >>> >>> 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter >>> thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. >>> 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. >>> >>> 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. >>> >>> 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. >>> >>> 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. >>> >>> I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off >>> and it don’t work. >>> >>> I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a >>> Mac book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth >>> keyboard and only a left side control key if that helps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Ray, If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read as each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always disable the preview pane. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t > even get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How > if possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the > last thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at > all. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscr
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If you close your message view window after making the change to eliminate the preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is back. At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only way to make the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, because I’ve kinda gotten to like modern view. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for Mail. > Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You can use > vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but don’t interact > with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal splitter. Press > control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the zero/insert key on the > numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and hold the six/right-arrow > key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus changing. this can take several > seconds. Then press the period/delete key on the numpad to release the mouse. > Double-check to be sure the horizontal splitter and preview pane are gone. At > this point, you can switch back to modern view in Mail preferences if you > wish. > > HtH, > Teresa > > Slow down; you'll get there faster. > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton --- > wrote: > >> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse pointer >> where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, what key do >> you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? >> >> >> Kliphton >> (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com >> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >> wrote: >> >> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the >> accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they >> actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move >> to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the >> horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks >> the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to >> the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key >> with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track straight >> with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures that I do. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >> >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Teresa >>> >>> How do you disable the preview pane? >>> >>> Debbie >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >>> Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail >>> >>> As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and with >>> five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than >>> five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without >>> having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "M
A note to outlook.com users
Okay, some of you may have seen my post a couple weeks back, that Microsoft now supports imap in mac mail. The instructions cover mountain lion only. I anisially upgraded from mountain lion, but wanted to see if a clean install provided any differences. For me it did. My outlook configuration in apple mail being one of them. In the past when you put in a Microsoft account in apple mail, it always defaulted to pop3, now when you do it, it tells you that you must configure it manually. But upon telling you that, all the right settings are filled in for you. So just a heads up for anyone who is using or planning on using outlook.com mail with apple mail in mavericks. I faught with this for almost 2 hours before trying to do it the normal way. Just goes to show you how much things can change. I learned the hard way. But hey, my dad always told me, there is no better teacher than experience! HTH Kliphton ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
Hello, Shouldn’t you have a backup for Mountain Lion as well? I’m pretty sure I remember seeing you backed up before updating to Mavericks. If so, you should be able to ge into your recovery partition, and use your time machine backup from right before you updated to Mavericks. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous > experience with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained > Mavericks, I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. > After the reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am getting > the message "the operation could not be completed because not all the files > are back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying things I > needed individually for the time being. But the focus is all over the place, > and the filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I get constant > "finder busy" messages. > So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again and > tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically before > the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how to do > this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the message: > "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". These > problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would sincerely > appreciate assistance. > Christinesome of the files are backup > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
Yes, Buddy, just found that out. Ah, well. Full circle for me. It was a fun experiment, though. Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If you > close your message view window after making the change to eliminate the > preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is back. > At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only way to make > the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, because I’ve > kinda gotten to like modern view. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for >> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You >> can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but don’t >> interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal >> splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the >> zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and >> hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus >> changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key on >> the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the horizontal >> splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can switch back to >> modern view in Mail preferences if you wish. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton --- >> wrote: >> >>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse pointer >>> where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, what key do >>> you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? >>> >>> >>> Kliphton >>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com >>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >>> wrote: >>> >>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the >>> accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they >>> actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move >>> to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the >>> horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks >>> the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to >>> the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key >>> with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track >>> straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures >>> that I do. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >>> wrote: >>> Hi Teresa How do you disable the preview pane? Debbie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and with five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvi
Re: What happens to my TM backup that spans OS10 versions?
I know, but I have now had Time Machine back up my ML system, then keep packing up to the same drive under Maverix. Are things versioned, so I could go back to, say a week ago and have all my ML files, or two days ago and have the restore be Maverix? On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Tom Moore wrote: > Hi, > If you restore the machine back to the image that you made before you > installed the new os the system will revert back to Lion if you choose to > restore back to that specific point. > > Tom > > >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> I made a Time Machine backup just before I installed maverix, my first-ever >> use of Time Machine. I kept the drive plugged in after I upgraded, and it >> just struck me: what happened to it? My personal files are, of course, >> intact, but is that backup now “running” Mountain Lion or would the system >> files have been updated as well? Could I use it to restore, or are the two >> OS versions now entangled somehow? Should I wipe it and start over? >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: What happens to my TM backup that spans OS10 versions?
Hi, As far as I know when you backup the system it takes what ever version of the os is on the drive at that time and puts it in the restore point. If you restore the system to a point that had Lion on it that restore will have Lion on it when you run it. If you then run a restore hat had 10.9 that will restore the 10.9 version of the system on to your drive. As far as selecting individual files out of a time machine backup I am not sure how to do this. Tom > On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > I know, but I have now had Time Machine back up my ML system, then keep > packing up to the same drive under Maverix. Are things versioned, so I could > go back to, say a week ago and have all my ML files, or two days ago and have > the restore be Maverix? >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Tom Moore wrote: >> >> Hi, >> If you restore the machine back to the image that you made before you >> installed the new os the system will revert back to Lion if you choose to >> restore back to that specific point. >> >> Tom >> >> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:23 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I made a Time Machine backup just before I installed maverix, my first-ever >>> use of Time Machine. I kept the drive plugged in after I upgraded, and it >>> just struck me: what happened to it? My personal files are, of course, >>> intact, but is that backup now “running” Mountain Lion or would the system >>> files have been updated as well? Could I use it to restore, or are the two >>> OS versions now entangled somehow? Should I wipe it and start over? >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user
Can I do this from a PC or must it be done from a Mac? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton --- Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user You have to create a bootable drive with a 8GB usb thumb stick, or a USB external drive that has been partitioned. I have done it twice, and it is really quite easy. Let me know if you need any help. My contact info is below. Kliphton ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72 ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reinhard Stebner Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:33 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user What if one wanted to do a clean install? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Craig Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:26 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi, Upgrading will not effect bootcamp. If you want to upgrade and not do a clean install all you have to do is go to the software update and tell it to install Maverick. It is wise to backup first but it seems to be a very safe installer. Once you've started the installation just wait and follow the prompts. It is very simple. Tommy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ramy moustafa Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user Hi all: i have my macc mini with mountain lion installed, and i have windows 64 as a boot camp, now i need to install the mavericks, 1, will i need sited assistance to do so? 2, what about my booot camp, will it be affected?? 3, if you please, i need a tutorial or something on hhow to install this thhing, it's the 1st time for me. thanks so much Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user
Has to be done from the mac. Its a mac OS, so that is only logical. Kliphton ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com ~Twitter,Instagram,foursquare&Skype~ kliphton72 [Text only] 914-820-2298 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Reinhard Stebner wrote: > Can I do this from a PC or must it be done from a Mac? > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton --- > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:54 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user > > You have to create a bootable drive with a 8GB usb thumb stick, or a USB > external drive that has been partitioned. I have done it twice, and it is > really quite easy. Let me know if you need any help. My contact info is > below. > > Kliphton > ~iMessage&Email~ kliphton@outlook.com > ~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72 > ~Text only~ 914-820-2298 > "Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Reinhard Stebner > Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:33 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user > > What if one wanted to do a clean install? > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Craig > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:26 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user > > Hi, > > Upgrading will not effect bootcamp. If you want to upgrade and not do a > clean install all you have to do is go to the software update and tell it to > install Maverick. It is wise to backup first but it seems to be a very safe > installer. > > Once you've started the installation just wait and follow the prompts. It is > very simple. > > Tommy > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ramy moustafa > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:19 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Upgrading to Mavericks, help please for a new user > > > Hi all: > i have my macc mini with mountain lion installed, and i have windows 64 as a > boot camp, now i need to install the mavericks, 1, will i need sited > assistance to do so? > 2, what about my booot camp, will it be affected?? > 3, if you please, i need a tutorial or something on hhow to install this > thhing, it's the 1st time for me. thanks so much > > Ramy moustafa saber > licturer at: > faculty of musical education > music arranger and sound engineer > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving > emails from it, send an email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit > this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisi
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
I did this 1. Using classic view, I made sure I was not interacting with the message table. 2. Next, pressed VO+down till I heard “horisontal scrole area. 3. Next, routed the mouse to that area. 4. Making sure track pad commander was off, (it’s always off for me) I double clicked the track pad. Still, I cannot tell if messages are read or unread but, I suspect that they are read as I arrow over them because as I arrow through them, I hear the time stamp before the subject line if a message is read. If a message is unread, I hear the subject line first. I wish they would fix this damn thing. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > The track pad commander should be off. So, after the double-click, just do > VO-Down Arrow and there should be nothing there. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 16:02, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Okay. So, after I double click with the track pad, do I slide my finger >> either left or right? IF not, how do I know the blasted pain is closed? >> >> Usually use standard view. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Ray, >>> >>> In Classic view, you go to the messages table but don’t interact with it. >>> Make sure that Quick Nav is off. VO-Down Arrow and you should hear >>> “Horizontal splitter”. Bring the mouse and double-click with the track pad. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:28, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> Can’t seem to do that in OS 10.9. I do the following. 1. Switch mail to use classic view. 2. Close pref window. 3. Move to the right of the messasge table until I find the splitter thingie, I think there’s only one but that the one I go to. 4. Now, use VO+CMD+F5 to rout the mouse to that point. 5. Now, activate the mouse keys with Option five times. 6. Now, press zero on the numbers row to lock the mouse. 7. Now, press the o key until I hear something different but I don’t. I’ve even tried this with the track pad with Track pad commander off and it don’t work. I think I must be doing something wrong but cannot be sure. I’m using a Mac book Pro with the FN key on the very left bottom of the bluetooth keyboard and only a left side control key if that helps. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > If the preview pane is showing, all your messages will appear to be read > as each message opens as soon as you land on it. This is why I always > disable the preview pane. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 10:15, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Ever since I played with the preview pain in mail last night, I don’t >> even get told whether a message I’m passing over is read or unread. How >> if possible can I make sure to get this information? It used to be the >> last thing I got told in OS 10.9, and now, I don’t even get told it at >> all. >> >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the >> blind built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Hello Ray, What happens if you do VO-Down arrow when you’re on the horizontal splitter? If there’s nothing below it, you’ve got rid of the preview pane. If that isn’t the case, another way to get rid of it is to route the mouse to the horizontal splitter, then press your finger down on the track pad and drag it downwards a little way. This drags the splitter to the bottom of the screen. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: A cautionary note about Mavericks installer
Hi everyone. If I do a clean install of Mavericks, is there an easy way to restore my data from my time machine backup? The upgrade to Mavericks did not work for me, since the set up process quit unexpectedly. Thanks. On 2013-10-26, at 7:17 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: > Hi list: > > I’ve been experimenting with Mavericks and have a couple minor observations > regarding the installer. > > First, upgrading went smoothly. > > However, I enjoy tinkering, so, I also did an install using USB media, and, > finally, with the recovery partition. > > With the USB installer, the install was smooth, once I booted into it. > > However, with the recovery partition, the installer required me to sign into > my Apple account. First, when the sign in dialog came up, I had to use the > Window chooser to get into the Window. But, I would navigate to the user > name and password section, but, I couldn’t type there. The thing that solved > this seems strange, but, it worked. Using VoiceOver commands, I navigated to > the Forgot button, pressed it, and, it then let me type in my credentials. > Not sure why that worked, but, it’s what happened to me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
anyone happen to have the direct email for the accessibility dept. at facebook?
Their site has gotten so unreasonable of late trying to navigate it in a browser. In full mode, some items won't even be seen by the screen reader (using chrome, webkit or even plain safari) and in mobile mode, some settings aren't even available. this has to change. anyone happen to have the direct email for facefooks accessibility development team? either that or a phone number. -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Follow up to Moderator Note yesterday concerning donations for one of our own
Markk, I'm thinking about you and Amy and the dogs. Will continue to pray for a full recovery! I like your choice of words! Katey Sent from my iPad > On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter > wrote: > > Amy 2.0 will be better, stronger, faster… > > Sent from my iPhone > > Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 > My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter > > >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Just want to say that thinking of you and Amy and the two dogs. >> Hanging there mate, it will be a long recovery for Amy, but she'll make it. >> >> >> >> Joanne Chua >> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >> Send from my iPad >> >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:21, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >>> wrote: >>> >>> If the "him, "in question is me, HOK, we are already friends, and I believe >>> I am also friends with almost everyone here. If I am not online, I am away, >>> and will get back to you as soon as I can. >>> >>> The good news, however small, is that Amy did move a very little of both >>> her arms and legs today. >>> >>> Thanks again for everyone who showing their support. It is a long road >>> ahead for Amy, she needs all the encouraging she can to get her back to >>> walking and driving again. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 >>> My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, eric oyen wrote: have him get on Skype. some of us are faster with speech than keyboard skills. Also, its good to hear a voice on the far end of things offering support. my Skype: technomage-hawke -eric > On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hello again All, > > I just wanted to give you an update on Mark and Amy's story. > > Firstly though, please let me offer my sincere and deepest thanks to you > all who have shown your support and well-wishes. This not only means a > tremendous amount to Mark and Amy, but also means the world to me that we > can come together as a community to support each other when we are in > need. > > Some of you have asked where the donations will go. Any donations will be > used for expenses associated with this incident and the medical care from > this. Mark has said that he will keep a record of everything associated > with this. Already it cost hundreds of dollars for Mark to simply tow > Amy's car back home. This cost has now been taken care of for them, > fortunately. So thank you all! :) > > You all are making a real difference here so I'm truly grateful to you!… > > Now, I'd like to share Mark's email address here so that you may send > your support to him. If you cannot offer financial support then please do > consider offering Amy and him your most valuable emotional support. It is > truly welcome… > > Below I'll first share Mark's email address and then a copy of the recent > article in a local Oregon paper about this incident which also offers an > update on Amy's condition. If you would like to know more, please do > write directly to Mark if you would? > > Now that this is known here, please let me suggest that we now move this > to a more personal level off the lists. Feel free to write me or Mark and > do be assured that any developments, I will share. Otherwise, I'm happy > (and will now encourage us) to continue this off the lists. > > Thanks so very, very much to you all for your support! I cannot express > enough how much this means to them and to me. > > Y'all are AWESOME!!! > > Have a wonderful weekend! Info and article follow… > > Sincerely, > > Cara > --- > Email Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com > > The Article > > The Curry Coastal Pilot - Couple survives hiking ordeal > > > Mark Baxter and his girlfriend Amy Regan with their dogs, who were > instrumental in efforts to rescue Amy after a hiking accident. Submitted > photo > Brookings resident Mark Baxter still isn’t sure what to make of what he > calls his misadventure along Damnation Creek near Klamath last weekend — > an afternoon jaunt that landed his girlfriend, Amy Regan, in ICU in > Portland with a broken back and no feeling in her arms and legs. > “There was a bunch of stupid decisions all down the line,” Baxter said > Wednesday of what was supposed to have been an easy afternoon hike. “I > got lucky. I got damn lucky.” > The two didn’t bring a survival kit, and were wearing sweatpants and > T-shirts. A friend has since reassured them that their clo
Re: Mavericks and Gmail
Hi, I am using 10.9 with no problems with gmail. I ofcorse did not disable all mail so that may have something to do with it. Just my thoughts. matthew dyer sent from my 27 inch iMac. facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Skype: graduater2004 On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Janet Ingber wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to > install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to > Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain. > > Thanks, > Janet > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks and Gmail
Hi Matthew, I checked my Gmail settings and I too did not disable all mail. Hopefully things will go smoothly when I upgrade. When I bought my Macbook Air, the techs set up my email at the store. Thanks, Janet On Oct 27, 2013, at 2:40 PM, matthew dyer wrote: > Hi, > > I am using 10.9 with no problems with gmail. I ofcorse did not disable all > mail so that may have something to do with it. Just my thoughts. > > > matthew dyer > sent from my 27 inch iMac. > > > > facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com > > Skype: graduater2004 > > > > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Janet Ingber wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to >> install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to >> Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain. >> >> Thanks, >> Janet >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: think I closed preview pain but not sure.
i in a stupid moment removed the message telling us how to get rid of the preview pain, could the person who sent the instructions plese send them again? sorry about that Michael On 28 Oct 2013, at 1:30 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pandora, edit station details
Hi, thanks for the feedback. :) I’m in the US and I’m enjoying iRadio, but so far, Pandora is winning me over. I use it just fine on my iDevices. For now, piano pub will have to suffice on the Mac. Thanks again, Traci On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hey Traci, > > It is a very unpleasant sight to deal with. I don’t understand why you > aren’t seeing anything however. You should be able to find a lot of > clickable elements with vo. You do have to have flash installed, but if you > don’t, I would think you would be getting a screen telling you as much. You > might try hitting space bar just to see if it stops or starts playing. > > I don’t know where you are, but if you can use iTunes radio, I would strongly > recommend doing that. > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hi, > > When you say the web player, do you mean navigating to pandora.com? > > Whenever I go there, I can’t get anywhere. There is a splash screen at the > top that I’m unable to do anything with. How do you log in to begin playing? > > I don’t have flash installed, do you? > > Thanks, > Traci > On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Traci, >> >> It has occurred to me that I might should have gone in to a little more >> detail. I’m assuming you are using the web player. >> >> Click options then station details. I’m assuming that at this point what I >> described earlier is still true. It looks the same to me anyway. I also >> noticed after checking it out jest now, that it isn’t in the profile section >> as it use to be. >> Hope that helps. >> >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> Hello, which app are you using for Pandora? >> >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >>> Hi Traci, >>> >>> There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to >>> Voiceover. When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or >>> thumbs is to put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the >>> mouse over to the right until clicking would remove what I was wanting. It >>> takes some trial and error. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac? I >>> want to go in and delete some of my station seeds. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Traci >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group,
Re: Follow up to Moderator Note yesterday concerning donations for one of our own
Hi, Katety. Thank you so much for keeping us in your mind. It means getting better all the time, but it's a very long road until we get to Amy 2.0. (She is still in beta) Be well. Sent from my iPhone Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter > On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Katey Glass wrote: > > Markk, > > I'm thinking about you and Amy and the dogs. Will continue to pray for a > full recovery! I like your choice of words! > > Katey > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter >> wrote: >> >> Amy 2.0 will be better, stronger, faster… >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 >> My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter >> >> >>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:14 AM, Joanne Chua wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> Just want to say that thinking of you and Amy and the two dogs. >>> Hanging there mate, it will be a long recovery for Amy, but she'll make it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joanne Chua >>> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. >>> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate >>> Send from my iPad >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 17:21, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: If the "him, "in question is me, HOK, we are already friends, and I believe I am also friends with almost everyone here. If I am not online, I am away, and will get back to you as soon as I can. The good news, however small, is that Amy did move a very little of both her arms and legs today. Thanks again for everyone who showing their support. It is a long road ahead for Amy, she needs all the encouraging she can to get her back to walking and driving again. Sent from my iPhone Messengers and Skype: BurningHawk1969 My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter > On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:46 PM, eric oyen wrote: > > have him get on Skype. some of us are faster with speech than keyboard > skills. Also, its good to hear a voice on the far end of things offering > support. > > my Skype: technomage-hawke > > -eric > >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:26 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> Hello again All, >> >> I just wanted to give you an update on Mark and Amy's story. >> >> Firstly though, please let me offer my sincere and deepest thanks to you >> all who have shown your support and well-wishes. This not only means a >> tremendous amount to Mark and Amy, but also means the world to me that >> we can come together as a community to support each other when we are in >> need. >> >> Some of you have asked where the donations will go. Any donations will >> be used for expenses associated with this incident and the medical care >> from this. Mark has said that he will keep a record of everything >> associated with this. Already it cost hundreds of dollars for Mark to >> simply tow Amy's car back home. This cost has now been taken care of for >> them, fortunately. So thank you all! :) >> >> You all are making a real difference here so I'm truly grateful to you!… >> >> Now, I'd like to share Mark's email address here so that you may send >> your support to him. If you cannot offer financial support then please >> do consider offering Amy and him your most valuable emotional support. >> It is truly welcome… >> >> Below I'll first share Mark's email address and then a copy of the >> recent article in a local Oregon paper about this incident which also >> offers an update on Amy's condition. If you would like to know more, >> please do write directly to Mark if you would? >> >> Now that this is known here, please let me suggest that we now move this >> to a more personal level off the lists. Feel free to write me or Mark >> and do be assured that any developments, I will share. Otherwise, I'm >> happy (and will now encourage us) to continue this off the lists. >> >> Thanks so very, very much to you all for your support! I cannot express >> enough how much this means to them and to me. >> >> Y'all are AWESOME!!! >> >> Have a wonderful weekend! Info and article follow… >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Cara >> --- >> Email Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com >> >> The Article >> >> The Curry Coastal Pilot - Couple survives hiking ordeal >> >> >> Mark Baxter and his girlfriend Amy Regan with their dogs, who were >> instrumental in efforts to rescue Amy after a hiking accident. Submitted >> photo >> Brookings resident Mark Baxter still isn’t sure what to make of what he >> calls his misadvent
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee & Karen. AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the same as Compact Samantha. Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that is a setting I have created? Traci On Oct 26, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > Two questions: > 1. Are there any new Australian English voices? > 2. Do the new voices read out capital letters properly, as does Alex, or do > they announce both "capital" and change pitch? > > On 27/10/2013, at 3:59 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Yes, if you go into Voiceover’s speech settings and choose customize from the > default voice popup, or from the same popup in System Preferences > Speech > and Dictation > Speech tab, you’ll find them. As usual, check the ones you > want, they will download, and there you go. Off the top of my head, the new > voices are kate, Ava, Allison, Oliver, Susan, and an India one whose name I > don’t remember. My personal favorite is Ava, but they are all pretty good. > > Mario, your messages are reaching the list. I’m not sure what tutorial you > mean, though. > On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:23 PM, mario navarro wrote: > >> >> hi guys, sorry for making dynamic reading, but I do not know if my messages >> are reaching the group. >> please tell me. >> read below. >> hi folks. >> for those who have already upgraded to the Mavericks: >> someone can tell me if the manual VoiceOver Getting Started >> is now available for the mavericks? >> would be nice to take some questions. >> I think it's still a bit early but ... >> >> thanks. >> cheers. >> Em 26/10/2013 16:58, Maggie's Dobermail escreveu: >>> Well, for what it’s worth, I don’t think they are really “new”, just >>> improved a bit. For example, you don’t get any new choices to my knowledge >>> other then the usual Samantha, Daniel, etc.. >>> I know somebody will correct me if this is off base.. >>> Cait >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Courtney Curran >>> wrote: >>> Hi, Wait a minute, there are new vo voices? Thanks, Courtney Sent from my iMac On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > new -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this grou
Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail
hey, i love modern view it stops a lot of the VO chatter so i think i will stay with it myself. On 28 Oct 2013, at 2:56 am, Buddy Brannan wrote: > While you can switch back to modern view, your settings won’t stick. If you > close your message view window after making the change to eliminate the > preview pane, or if you exit mail and go back in, the preview pane is back. > At last, that’s what happened to me after I made the change. Only way to make > the preview pane stay gone is to stay in class view. A shame, because I’ve > kinda gotten to like modern view. > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> I find it easiest to do this in full-screen mode, command-control F for >> Mail. Turn mouse keys on. Switch to classic view in Mail preferences. You >> can use vO to place the mouse. Just navigate to the message table, but don’t >> interact with it. VO-right once and you should reach the horizontal >> splitter. Press control-VO-f5 to place the mouse there. Press the >> zero/insert key on the numpad once to lock the mouse down, then press and >> hold the six/right-arrow key on the numpad till you hear VO’s focus >> changing. this can take several seconds. Then press the period/delete key on >> the numpad to release the mouse. Double-check to be sure the horizontal >> splitter and preview pane are gone. At this point, you can switch back to >> modern view in Mail preferences if you wish. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Kliphton --- >> wrote: >> >>> Looks like I still have a lot to learn. How do you place the mouse pointer >>> where you want it. Also, when you say you push numpad period, what key do >>> you push on the numpad? Or maybe I am miss understanding? >>> >>> >>> Kliphton >>> (iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com >>> (Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Teresa Cochran" >>> wrote: >>> >>> I use mouse keys, which is an accessibility feature you can enable in the >>> accessibility dialog, command-option-f5. Once you turn these on, they >>> actually move the real mouse pointer. I put mail in classic view, then move >>> to the right of the messages table, and place my mouse pointer on the >>> horizontal splitter. I press the 0 key on the keypad once, and this locks >>> the mouse down. then I hold down the number 6 key, which moves the mouse to >>> the right. When I hear VO say something different, I release the mouse key >>> with numpad period. I like using this method, because I don’t track >>> straight with a traditional mouse or the trackpad, but this way ensures >>> that I do. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham >>> >>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Debbie April Yuille >>> wrote: >>> Hi Teresa How do you disable the preview pane? Debbie -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Classic Versus Current view in Mail As an additional note, I notice that with the preview pane disabled and with five preview lines of message text enabled, VO sure reads a lot more than five lines. It's almost like having the preview pane available without having to switch to it. pretty cool. :) Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this
Re: think I closed preview pain but not sure.
Hello Michael, Here’s one way to get rid of the preview pane. Put Mail into classic view. Make sure that Quick Nav is off and that you’re not interacting with the message table. Do VO-Down arrow to the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5). If you have a trackpad, make sure that track pad commander is off and press down on the trackpad with one finger and slide your finger down. If there is now nothing below the horizontal splitter, the preview pane is gone. Teresa posted how to do this using mousekeys, but I no longer have that message. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 20:23, Michael Marshall wrote: > i in a stupid moment removed the message telling us how to get rid of the > preview pain, could the person who sent the instructions plese send them > again? > sorry about that > > Michael > On 28 Oct 2013, at 1:30 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> >> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >> built-in! >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: think I closed preview pain but not sure.
hey, thanks a lot, that did the trick Michael On 28 Oct 2013, at 6:41 am, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Here’s one way to get rid of the preview pane. > > Put Mail into classic view. Make sure that Quick Nav is off and that you’re > not interacting with the message table. > Do VO-Down arrow to the horizontal splitter. Bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5). If > you have a trackpad, make sure that track pad commander is off and press down > on the trackpad with one finger and slide your finger down. > > If there is now nothing below the horizontal splitter, the preview pane is > gone. > > Teresa posted how to do this using mousekeys, but I no longer have that > message. > > > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 20:23, Michael Marshall wrote: > >> i in a stupid moment removed the message telling us how to get rid of the >> preview pain, could the person who sent the instructions plese send them >> again? >> sorry about that >> >> Michael >> On 28 Oct 2013, at 1:30 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> >>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>> built-in! >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks and Gmail
I’m having a few hiccups with syncing, but that’s pretty much it. I didn’t disable all mail either all along, so the only messages that had to sync were the archived ones, which apple Mail doesn’t keep separately anymore. Gmail has never kept Archived messages separately, either. Teresa "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:40 AM, matthew dyer wrote: > Hi, > > I am using 10.9 with no problems with gmail. I ofcorse did not disable all > mail so that may have something to do with it. Just my thoughts. > > > matthew dyer > sent from my 27 inch iMac. > > > > facebook, facetime and iMessage: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com > > Skype: graduater2004 > > > > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Janet Ingber wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Since my Gmail address is my primary email address has anyone been able to >> install Mavericks and not have a problem with Gmail? I'd like to update to >> Mavericks and changing my email address would be a real pain. >> >> Thanks, >> Janet >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Macupdate desktop on mavericks.
Sorry I can't answer your question, but perhaps you can answer one of mine. What does the MacUpdate Desktop do? What's the advantage of using it? I have some software from MacUpdate and am often interested in their deals, but wasn't exactly sure why I would want or need the desktop app. Does it allow you to brows, view or purchase new apps? Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mavericks and Gmail
HI Teresa, When you updated, did all your messages saved in the [IMAP]/Archive folder–that is, Mail's special Archive folder–get merged with all your archived messages in All Mail? Or does this still remain a separate, but now redundant, folder in Mavericks? Thanks, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: anyone happen to have the direct email for the accessibility dept. at facebook?
accessibility+r8tlllq.aea6hcn6sx...@support.facebook.com E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 27/10/2013 18:30, eric oyen wrote: Their site has gotten so unreasonable of late trying to navigate it in a browser. In full mode, some items won't even be seen by the screen reader (using chrome, webkit or even plain safari) and in mobile mode, some settings aren't even available. this has to change. anyone happen to have the direct email for facefooks accessibility development team? either that or a phone number. -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
HI Traci, By default, Alex should just change pitch when reading a capital letter but should not say the word "capital". This makes reading all caps much easier as you don't get all the unnecessary extra words. The other voices, however, will say "capital" and change pitch as well, which is unnecessarily verbose given that the pitch change is sufficient. Cheers, Nic On 28/10/2013, at 6:34 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee & Karen. AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the same as Compact Samantha. Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that is a setting I have created? Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
Thought I did, but the only backup is Mavericks and only one copied folder of files, at least what is visible to me on the drive. Sent from my iPhone > On 27 Oct 2013, at 12:26 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > Hello, > > Shouldn’t you have a backup for Mountain Lion as well? I’m pretty sure I > remember seeing you backed up before updating to Mavericks. If so, you > should be able to ge into your recovery partition, and use your time machine > backup from right before you updated to Mavericks. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman >> wrote: >> >>To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous experience >> with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained Mavericks, >> I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. After the >> reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am getting the >> message "the operation could not be completed because not all the files are >> back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying things I needed >> individually for the time being. But the focus is all over the place, and >> the filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I get constant >> "finder busy" messages. >> So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again >> and tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically >> before the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how >> to do this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the >> message: "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". >> These problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would sincerely >> appreciate assistance. >> Christinesome of the files are backup >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Macupdate desktop on mavericks.
Hi Nic. I use macupdate desktop for updating apps, that I have not purchased from the app store. It is an advantage, because some apps is a little difficult to find, and macupdate desktop lets me update them just by one click. Macupdate desktop will download them and install them. Also these silverlight apps and other audio apps, which is a bit tricky. I am really sad, that the app does not work now. Best regards Annie. Den 27 Oct 2013 kl. 21:38 skrev Nicholas Parsons : > Sorry I can't answer your question, but perhaps you can answer one of mine. > What does the MacUpdate Desktop do? What's the advantage of using it? I have > some software from MacUpdate and am often interested in their deals, but > wasn't exactly sure why I would want or need the desktop app. Does it allow > you to brows, view or purchase new apps? > Cheers, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
Well, when I am in classic layout, and move down below the horizontal spliter, I see the message content area. This is the case no matter what I try to do with the track pad. Am I correct in guessing that this should not be the case? Also, I just now tried the trick you suggested of tapping and holding my finger on the track pad and then moving my finger downward. Seems to have no effect. Should I do this in classic view or standard view? I just want to know for sure whether messages are read or unread and want some consistant reliablility. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > What happens if you do VO-Down arrow when you’re on the horizontal splitter? > If there’s nothing below it, you’ve got rid of the preview pane. > > If that isn’t the case, another way to get rid of it is to route the mouse to > the horizontal splitter, then press your finger down on the track pad and > drag it downwards a little way. This drags the splitter to the bottom of the > screen. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Macupdate desktop on mavericks.
Oo, Would this work to update dropbox?, I mean, if it works at all? John S On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: Hi Nic. I use macupdate desktop for updating apps, that I have not purchased from the app store. It is an advantage, because some apps is a little difficult to find, and macupdate desktop lets me update them just by one click. Macupdate desktop will download them and install them. Also these silverlight apps and other audio apps, which is a bit tricky. I am really sad, that the app does not work now. Best regards Annie. Den 27 Oct 2013 kl. 21:38 skrev Nicholas Parsons : > Sorry I can't answer your question, but perhaps you can answer one of mine. > What does the MacUpdate Desktop do? What's the advantage of using it? I have > some software from MacUpdate and am often interested in their deals, but > wasn't exactly sure why I would want or need the desktop app. Does it allow > you to brows, view or purchase new apps? > Cheers, > Nic > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
Ah! ok. Have you tried to migrate your settings and preferences from Mavericks to Mountain Lion with the migration assistant in the utilities folder? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > Thought I did, but the only backup is Mavericks and only one copied folder of > files, at least what is visible to me on the drive. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27 Oct 2013, at 12:26 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Shouldn’t you have a backup for Mountain Lion as well? I’m pretty sure I >> remember seeing you backed up before updating to Mavericks. If so, you >> should be able to ge into your recovery partition, and use your time machine >> backup from right before you updated to Mavericks. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman >>> wrote: >>> >>> To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous experience >>> with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained >>> Mavericks, I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. >>> After the reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am >>> getting the message "the operation could not be completed because not all >>> the files are back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying >>> things I needed individually for the time being. But the focus is all over >>> the place, and the filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I >>> get constant "finder busy" messages. >>> So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again >>> and tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically >>> before the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how >>> to do this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the >>> message: "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". >>> These problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would >>> sincerely appreciate assistance. >>> Christinesome of the files are backup >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: no longer told if messages are read and unread
in reply to myself, I think, but still not quite sure, that I did it. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Well, when I am in classic layout, and move down below the horizontal > spliter, I see the message content area. This is the case no matter what I > try to do with the track pad. Am I correct in guessing that this should not > be the case? Also, I just now tried the trick you suggested of tapping and > holding my finger on the track pad and then moving my finger downward. Seems > to have no effect. Should I do this in classic view or standard view? > > I just want to know for sure whether messages are read or unread and want > some consistant reliablility. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Ray, >> >> What happens if you do VO-Down arrow when you’re on the horizontal splitter? >> If there’s nothing below it, you’ve got rid of the preview pane. >> >> If that isn’t the case, another way to get rid of it is to route the mouse >> to the horizontal splitter, then press your finger down on the track pad and >> drag it downwards a little way. This drags the splitter to the bottom of the >> screen. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
1 password podcasts
Hi, Can anyone point me to where I might find any podcasts on using 1 password with VoiceOver? I looked on applevis and to my surprise couldn't find any. Kind regards Graham Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Nest 2nd gen thermostat
Hi guys: Does anyone know if the Nest 2nd gen thermostat is accessible? I just saw it in the apple store. Looks neet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hi all: About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really gone away. Hope it helps! Daniela Rubio T iPhone: +34662328507 El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons escribió: > If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your > formatting? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
Hi Chris. I don’t know why, but my system bonks every time I try using the control+F2 command. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Chris H wrote: > Open the menu bar - control f2 > open the dock - control f3 > open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - > control f8 > These work even with VoiceOver off. > > -- > E-mail Facebook and iMessage > christopher...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hi all: > About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. > To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. > If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu > shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. > About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really > gone away. > Hope it helps! > > Daniela Rubio T > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons > escribió: > >> If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your >> formatting? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
Have you switched the FN key from the default? If not, press FN-Ctrl-F2. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 23:28, BBS wrote: > Hi Chris. I don’t know why, but my system bonks every time I try using the > control+F2 command. > > Shawn > Sent From My White Mac Book > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Chris H wrote: > >> Open the menu bar - control f2 >> open the dock - control f3 >> open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - >> control f8 >> These work even with VoiceOver off. >> >> -- >> E-mail Facebook and iMessage >> christopher...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Some Experimentation.
Hello All. While you’ve all been writing your messages, I’ve been playing with mail. I actually have tried all of your suggestions about Mail and thus far, I don’t know what I like or dislike. At the moment, I have mail in full mode, command control F and when I land on a table, I interact, and vo down arrow. My messages get read automatically. I still can’t get rid of the Splitter although I’ve followed everyone’s steps. Although I’ve turned off tool bar and favourite bar, both things are still showing. Can’t get rid of embedded yet. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Voices in Mavericks (was, Re: os 10.9, is it worth it?)
Nick, what I’ve done for all the voices, including Alex and the Vocalizer Expressive voices, instead of having it change pitch for capital letters, I have it beep for capital letters. I prefer this behavior because the pitch changes are freaky. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: > HI Traci, > By default, Alex should just change pitch when reading a capital letter but > should not say the word "capital". This makes reading all caps much easier as > you don't get all the unnecessary extra words. The other voices, however, > will say "capital" and change pitch as well, which is unnecessarily verbose > given that the pitch change is sufficient. > Cheers, > Nic > > On 28/10/2013, at 6:34 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hello, I don’t believe there are any new Australian voices. Just Lee & Karen. > > AS far as the capitol goes, Oliver (the new UK voice), reads capitol T, the > same as Compact Samantha. > > Oddly enough, Alex didn’t indicate capitol or lower-case. I wonder if that > is a setting I have created? > > Traci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pandora, edit station details
Hi Traci, You can delete a station from within Piano Pub. Select the station by double clicking with the track pad like you would do to play it. Then, stop interacting with the stations table and VO+right arrow until you hear "Dash button." This lets you delete the station. Hope this helps. -Greg On Oct 27, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > Hi, thanks for the feedback. :) > > I’m in the US and I’m enjoying iRadio, but so far, Pandora is winning me > over. I use it just fine on my iDevices. For now, piano pub will have to > suffice on the Mac. > > Thanks again, > Traci > > On Oct 26, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > >> Hey Traci, >> >> It is a very unpleasant sight to deal with. I don’t understand why you >> aren’t seeing anything however. You should be able to find a lot of >> clickable elements with vo. You do have to have flash installed, but if you >> don’t, I would think you would be getting a screen telling you as much. You >> might try hitting space bar just to see if it stops or starts playing. >> >> I don’t know where you are, but if you can use iTunes radio, I would >> strongly recommend doing that. >> >> On Oct 26, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> When you say the web player, do you mean navigating to pandora.com? >> >> Whenever I go there, I can’t get anywhere. There is a splash screen at the >> top that I’m unable to do anything with. How do you log in to begin playing? >> >> I don’t have flash installed, do you? >> >> Thanks, >> Traci >> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >>> Traci, >>> >>> It has occurred to me that I might should have gone in to a little more >>> detail. I’m assuming you are using the web player. >>> >>> Click options then station details. I’m assuming that at this point what I >>> described earlier is still true. It looks the same to me anyway. I also >>> noticed after checking it out jest now, that it isn’t in the profile >>> section as it use to be. >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: >>> >>> Hello, which app are you using for Pandora? >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> Hi Traci, There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to Voiceover. When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or thumbs is to put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the mouse over to the right until clicking would remove what I was wanting. It takes some trial and error. On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan wrote: Hello, Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac? I want to go in and delete some of my station seeds. Thank you, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups
I think vertical splitter is gone.
Hi. I think I got rid of the splitter by doing the following. 1. vo command f5 on the vertical splitter. 2. vo, shift spacebar and I heard the mouse go click. I also have classic view unchecked. So what is my mail in now? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Another way of reading mail.
I’ve just discovered something else which I think is cool. Interact with the message table, find the message you want to read, interact with the message again without opening it and Voice over starts reading the message automatically. Any one found that yet? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Some useful Mac keyboard shortcuts
Hi Ann. Yes I have. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:39 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Have you switched the FN key from the default? If not, press FN-Ctrl-F2. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 27 Oct 2013, at 23:28, BBS wrote: > >> Hi Chris. I don’t know why, but my system bonks every time I try using the >> control+F2 command. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White Mac Book >> >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:46 AM, Chris H wrote: >> >>> Open the menu bar - control f2 >>> open the dock - control f3 >>> open the status menu (Lion) and extras menu (Mountain Lion or later) - >>> control f8 >>> These work even with VoiceOver off. >>> >>> -- >>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage >>> christopher...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Nest 2nd gen thermostat
Hi Sarai, My husband and I have the nest second Gen. It's kind of accessible via the iPhone app, but it's got some pretty significant limitations. Using the App, you can change the temperature, and take it off Away mode. But you cannot turn it on and off, you cannot switch it from heat to cool. the website is kind of usable, but not particularly friendly, I have written to them requesting that they improve their accessibility, but have received no response, and since last May there have been no updates in the iPhone app. I wouldn't say not to get it, but I would say don't expect to use it completely without sighted assistance. Cheers, Donna On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi guys: > Does anyone know if the Nest 2nd gen thermostat is accessible? I just saw it > in the apple store. Looks neet. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: upgrading, downgrading, choices oh my!
Hi John. That depends. Have you made a bootable copy of Lion? If not, and if you upgrade to Mavericks, you’re pretty much screwed because Lion isn’t in the App Store anymore. Shawn Sent From My White Mac Book On Oct 27, 2013, at 9:13 AM, John D. Lipsey wrote: > Hey all: > > I'm considering upgrading my 2010 Macbook from Lion to Mavericks. Various > people have told me my little old macbook should support the upgrade well > enough, and it may run the new OS better than Lion. > > If this is not the case, or if I'm just ridiculously dissatisfied with mail > and GMail, how easy is it to downgrade? Are there step-by-step instructions > on downgrading somewhere? > > Also and somewhat related, I'm planning on giving this macbook to my brother > once I purchase a new macbook air. What is the easiest way to remove all of > my content, so my brother essentially gets a new machine with an OS on it? > > Thanks in advance! > > -John > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Another way of reading mail.
No, and I still cannot tell whether my messages are read or unread. How the hell to fix this? Done everything evybody said to do and no good at all. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > I’ve just discovered something else which I think is cool. > > Interact with the message table, find the message you want to read, interact > with the message again without opening it and Voice over starts reading the > message automatically. > > Any one found that yet? > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Nest 2nd gen thermostat
Hi: So how do you switch from heat to cool? On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Sarai, > > My husband and I have the nest second Gen. It's kind of accessible via the > iPhone app, but it's got some pretty significant limitations. Using the App, > you can change the temperature, and take it off Away mode. But you cannot > turn it on and off, you cannot switch it from heat to cool. the website is > kind of usable, but not particularly friendly, I have written to them > requesting that they improve their accessibility, but have received no > response, and since last May there have been no updates in the iPhone app. > > I wouldn't say not to get it, but I would say don't expect to use it > completely without sighted assistance. > Cheers, > Donna > On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli > wrote: > >> Hi guys: >> Does anyone know if the Nest 2nd gen thermostat is accessible? I just saw it >> in the apple store. Looks neet. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Taptap C Question.
Hello, I have a Taptap C question. As you all know, there is a bleep when you focus on something. What I'd like toknow, canyou use Taptap C to take mainstream pictures rather than the camera? If not, how do you get Voice Over to tell you for instance, how many people in focus and how does Voice Over tell you if something is blured? Thank you. Kawal. Sent from my I phone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Taptap C Question.
Hi: Yes you can. On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello, > > I have a Taptap C question. > > As you all know, there is a bleep when you focus on something. What I'd like > toknow, canyou use Taptap C to take mainstream pictures rather than the > camera? If not, how do you get Voice Over to tell you for instance, how many > people in focus and how does Voice Over tell you if something is blured? > > Thank you. > > Kawal. > > Sent from my I phone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Another way of reading mail.
Hi Ray! Ok I've heard your post's and I think from what I gather the part your missing is you have to put the mouse on the splitter not below it! I'm sorry if that is what you've been doing but from what you've been saying it sounds like you have not! And if that is the case sit on the splitter and try the suggestions to get rid of it then! HTH Colin On 27 Oct 2013, at 23:19, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > No, and I still cannot tell whether my messages are read or unread. How the > hell to fix this? Done everything evybody said to do and no good at all. > > > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in! > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> I’ve just discovered something else which I think is cool. >> >> Interact with the message table, find the message you want to read, interact >> with the message again without opening it and Voice over starts reading the >> message automatically. >> >> Any one found that yet? >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Pages for Mavericks, problems
Anne, You can just interact with the button to read the button title. That is the currently selected style. I guess you have to dumb down like me to figure things like that out. :) What is happening is that voiceover isn’t reading the title of the button at all. For some reason a developer at Apple thought it would be more helpful for Voiceover users to set the accessibility description. Whenever that is set, vo will read it instead of the actual button title. cheers. On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Daniela, I think what you’re referring to are merge cells in tables. What’s bothering me is the lack of merge fields in normal text. There’s now no apparent way to bring addresses in from Contacts, for instance. The fields in my existing templates have now become placeholder text which means typing addresses in manually. The only way I’ve found to ascertain the current paragraph style is to go to the paragraph style button, do VO-Shift-c then go to the Finder and press the short cut I’ve created for Show clipboard. For some strange reason, VoiceOver doesn’t read the current style, but the command Copy last phrase to clipboard, actually picks up the name of the paragraph style. This is the only situation in which I’ve found that command to pick up something other than what was spoken by VoiceOver. I’m going through all the Pages training material we use and updating it for this new version so who knows what I’ll find in the coming days. Cheers, Anne On 27 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hi all: > About merging cells, they are still there, fortunately. > To complete the process, one needs to Control Click to get an onscreen menu. > If we select the cells we want to merge and Control click, the context menu > shows up and we can navigate down to the Merge Cells option. > About the hot keys for setting paragraph stiles, I am afraid they have really > gone away. > Hope it helps! > > Daniela Rubio T > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > El 27/10/2013, a las 09:18, Nicholas Parsons > escribió: > >> If you copy from Pages and paste in Text Edit, will it keep all your >> formatting? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Nest 2nd gen thermostat
The only way you can is if it has been turned off. then you can go into the app, and tell it which one you want. Otherwise you can't. Donna On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > So how do you switch from heat to cool? > On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Sarai, >> >> My husband and I have the nest second Gen. It's kind of accessible via the >> iPhone app, but it's got some pretty significant limitations. Using the >> App, you can change the temperature, and take it off Away mode. But you >> cannot turn it on and off, you cannot switch it from heat to cool. the >> website is kind of usable, but not particularly friendly, I have written to >> them requesting that they improve their accessibility, but have received no >> response, and since last May there have been no updates in the iPhone app. >> >> I wouldn't say not to get it, but I would say don't expect to use it >> completely without sighted assistance. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli >> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys: >>> Does anyone know if the Nest 2nd gen thermostat is accessible? I just saw >>> it in the apple store. Looks neet. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Really need help here, folks, and have gotten not a single response all weekend
OK. It appears that the problem is resolved as far as moving the documents over: I isolated and unhighlighted the back-up file, then copied over, and it seems to have worked. Now, though, my second big problem: my bookshare books are showing empty html when I open the xml files. I tried using The unarchiver on the original files, but it isn't prompting me for a password or anything, and keeps saying it can't extract from these files. I also cannot locate anywhere within the unarchiver preferences where to have bookshare books automatically extracted. I looked on bookshare's support link, and even though I am logged in and my task bar is showing, it keeps telling me my session has timed out, so I can't locate any FAQs for troubleshooting. If someone could help me out here, I would really appreciate it. (I have all file types selected in the unarchiver preferences. My third biggest problem is that when VO is reading, it keeps cutting off in the middle of words, and is sluggish when reading text continuously. When I brought it to Apple, they ran several diagnostic tests, said all was well, and that memory was not an issue. ) Christine On Oct 27, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Ah! ok. > > Have you tried to migrate your settings and preferences from Mavericks to > Mountain Lion with the migration assistant in the utilities folder? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> Thought I did, but the only backup is Mavericks and only one copied folder >> of files, at least what is visible to me on the drive. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27 Oct 2013, at 12:26 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Shouldn’t you have a backup for Mountain Lion as well? I’m pretty sure I >>> remember seeing you backed up before updating to Mavericks. If so, you >>> should be able to ge into your recovery partition, and use your time >>> machine backup from right before you updated to Mavericks. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: To summarize, I downgraded to Mountain Lion after a disastrous experience with Mavericks. However, because my Time Machine backup contained Mavericks, I had to copy and paste all of my files onto the drive as well. After the reinstallation, I attempted to copy the files back, but am getting the message "the operation could not be completed because not all the files are back-up files" or something like that. So, I tried copying things I needed individually for the time being. But the focus is all over the place, and the filenames keep changing as I move the arrow keys, and I get constant "finder busy" messages. So, I need a particular bookshare book tomorrow, so I downloaded it again and tried to extract with the unarchiver. I had this set up automatically before the Mavericks upgrade, and can't seem to find in the preferences how to do this again. I selected the folder to extract, and am getting the message: "The unarchiver cannot extract content from this type of file". These problems are going to impact me directly at work, so I would sincerely appreciate assistance. Christinesome of the files are backup -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.
I too have issues with DiskMaker x. It creates the disk, but my disk doesn't show up in start up disk to be booted off of. Though, amazingly, it creates the disk just fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Yet another pain in the neck trying to set up my MacBook after reinstallation
I am trying to have VoiceOver start at log-in. I went into Users and Groups and selected Log-in options. VoiceOver is nowhere to be found. The only thing I am seeing is Speech Synthesis Server. Is this what VO is called now -- when I set this up over two years ago, I am pretty darn sure it said "VoiceOver" -- as it does everywhere else when VO is referenced. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Logos progrm on Mac or iPad
Hi Mike and Helena, I just tried Logos 5 on my iPad and it's slightly more accessible than the iPhone app. Both let you read the text of each book. It's just a little tricky bringing up the resource area. Once you are on it though, you can do a two finger swipe down and VO will read each page and scroll to the next page. The difference with the iPad app is that the screen layout is more accessible. VO speaks more items and doesn't loose focus as much as the iPhone app does. As for the Mac app, so far it's not as accessible. You can bring up a book and have the program read back to you, however, VO cannot access the text. I also have it running on Windows 7 with a little more success. Right now your best bet is either the website biblia.com or running the iOS apps. You can access all your books and read them either with speech or a braille display. You can even do searches and bring up bible passages. I am working with the developers at Logos to make all their apps accessible. The iOS apps were made accessible recently and I have been talking to the Windows programmer to make it more accessible as well. The last area we need to push them on is the Mac. I did send them Apple's guidelines and gave them feedback as to what needed to be fixed. It might be helpful if we continue to email them about getting the Mac version accessible. Currently the main issue is just like Accordance: most things work accept reading the actual text. Feel free to write me off list for some work arounds and the contacts at Logos. Vinny PS If you need access to bibles and resources, contact Optasia Ministry http://www.optasiaministry.org They provide simple text files that can be viewed on both Mac and Windows as well as all the braille notetakers. - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Logos progrm on Mac or iPad Last I checked, these programs were not very accessible, but there is a work around. If you go to http://biblia.com you can log in with your email address and password and read your purchased books in your web browser. If you do this on a desktop computer, choose the option to switch to mobile view. This will disable the automatic scrolling which will make each section easier to read. Original message: Hi, all! Does anyone know if the logos bible program is accessible with VoiceOver either on the Mac or the iPad? I could use this program, or at least something like it for Bible-studies and such things, cause I'm going to a Bible college. I have three bible programs on my computer, and none of them work; the accordance program is completely inaccessible; you can do everything with it except get VoiceOver to read the Bible (Sheesh, what else is a Bible program for if you can't actually read the Bible on the darned thing), and my River Bible program doesn't work at all, and neither does MacSword, at least not with Mavericks. (It just barely worked the last time, never mind now; it won't even launch, and with the river Bible, it just keeps crashing and saying that there's a problem report). I really need something that'll work soon, so if someone can tell me what to do, that'l be awesome. I'm leaving for a Mission Exposure trip in January, and if my computer won't work, I pretty much won't be able to take my Bible with me, except the ones on my iPhone, but the iPhone ones go crazy after awhile when I have no service; either that or they work so slowly it takes forever to find one passage. Does anyone have an iPad they'd like to get rid of? I'd want it to be in decent shape obviously, but I'd be willing to pay a decent price for it, and if all the cases and what-not could come with it too, that'd be all the more awesome, and my professor promised to bring his iPad to school and he has logos on it, so hopefully we'll be able to find out if it works with VoiceOver, which I don't think it did on my phone. Sorry, but I'm kind of desperate, cause my braille Bible's huge, and you'd pretty much need a van or a decent sized car to carry it alone, never mind me and my other stuff and the rest of our group, so I can't take it along on the mission exposure trip. Thanks! God Bless!!! Helena May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace. (Numbers 6;24) In Jesus' Name. Amen Helena Fehr helena.torch.li...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Yo
Re: Yet another pain in the neck trying to set up my MacBook after reinstallation
Hi, When in the Users & Groups pane, Interact with the Users, Groups & Login Options List area. Navigate to the bottom item which is Login Options. Stop Interacting with the List area, then navigate right a number of times to the checkbox for using VoiceOver in the Login Screen. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > I am trying to have VoiceOver start at log-in. I went into Users and > Groups and selected Log-in options. VoiceOver is nowhere to be found. The > only thing I am seeing is Speech Synthesis Server. Is this what VO is called > now -- when I set this up over two years ago, I am pretty darn sure it said > "VoiceOver" -- as it does everywhere else when VO is referenced. > Christine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: cannot use the same user account and other upgrade issues
Hi, If you are using the Migration Assistant when setting up your machine, it will not allow you to create a new User account with the same name, especially the same Short Name, as an existing user on the original system. It will normally allow you past this either by you giving it a different name or by the system placing a “1” after the new Username, thus creating a different name for itself. There are also some reserved names like “Admin” and “Staff” that are not allowed to be used when creating user accounts. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 27, 2013, at 6:29 AM, Reinhard Stebner wrote: > When setting up the computer it wants me to setup a user account and I want > to sue my account that is already setup on the machine but it will not let > me. It also complains about the account name of the computer. How do I get > past this? The error I receive is this name cannot be used. I receive this > error every time I attempt to setup the computer > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Google Drive and Mavericks
Hi, I haven’t found any other method. I usually use the web interface for this. If you go to the Drive link from your Google Home page, then locate the list of items in your Google Drive. Arrow down through the list so that VO announces the various items, when you land on your folder, press the “x” key to select. You should then be able to get out of the Table, navigate left and locate the Share button. This will open a dialog where you can enter the people you wish the items shared with. HTH. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 26, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Upon my installation of Mavericks I have learned that sharing a folder with > another person using the Google Drive client is no longer possible. > Accessing this “sharing” feature from the web site is proving difficult. > Therefore, does anyone have any viable solution how I can share a newly > created folder with another person? > > Thanks for any help anyone can provide. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Yet another pain in the neck trying to set up my MacBook after reinstallation
Tim, absolutely everything there is saying "dimmed" -- use VoiceOver at login is saying "dimmed unchecked check box" and any attempt to change it is doing nothing. On Oct 27, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > When in the Users & Groups pane, Interact with the Users, Groups & Login > Options List area. Navigate to the bottom item which is Login Options. Stop > Interacting with the List area, then navigate right a number of times to the > checkbox for using VoiceOver in the Login Screen. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 27, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Christine Grassman > wrote: > >> I am trying to have VoiceOver start at log-in. I went into Users and >> Groups and selected Log-in options. VoiceOver is nowhere to be found. The >> only thing I am seeing is Speech Synthesis Server. Is this what VO is called >> now -- when I set this up over two years ago, I am pretty darn sure it said >> "VoiceOver" -- as it does everywhere else when VO is referenced. >> Christine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
