Logos progrm on Mac or iPad

2013-10-25 Thread Helena Fehr
Hi, all! Does anyone know if the logos bible program is accessible with 
VoiceOver either on the Mac or the iPad? I could use this program, or at least 
something like it for Bible-studies and such things, cause I'm going to a Bible 
college. I have three bible programs on my computer, and none of them work; the 
accordance program is completely inaccessible; you can do everything with it 
except get VoiceOver to read the Bible (Sheesh, what else is a Bible program 
for if you can't actually read the Bible on the darned thing), and my River 
Bible program doesn't work at all, and neither does MacSword, at least not with 
Mavericks.  (It just barely worked the last time, never mind now; it won't even 
launch, and with the river Bible, it just keeps crashing and saying that 
there's a problem report). I really need something that'll work soon, so if 
someone can tell me what to do, that'l be awesome. I'm leaving for a Mission 
Exposure trip in January, and if my computer won't work, I pretty much won't be 
able to take my Bible with me, except the ones on my iPhone, but the iPhone 
ones go crazy after awhile when I have no service; either that or they work so 
slowly it takes forever to find one passage. Does anyone have an iPad they'd 
like to get rid of? I'd want it to be in decent shape obviously, but I'd be 
willing to pay a decent price for it, and if all the cases and what-not could 
come with it too, that'd be all the more awesome, and my professor promised to 
bring his iPad to school and he has logos on it, so hopefully we'll be able to 
find out if it works with VoiceOver, which I don't think it did on my phone. 
Sorry, but I'm kind of desperate, cause my braille Bible's huge, and you'd 
pretty much need a van or a decent sized car to carry it alone, never mind me 
and my other stuff and the rest of our group, so I can't take it along on the 
mission exposure trip.
Thanks!

God Bless!!!
Helena

May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy because of 
you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you His peace.
(Numbers 6;24)

In Jesus' Name.
Amen

Helena Fehr
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Christine Grassman
I am truly confused! And here I thought I was helping somebody else avoid some 
major confusion and headache!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Oct 2013, at 10:23 am, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> I was using my Mac, and therefore, straight dictation.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
>> earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
>> anyone else having this issue.
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
>>> 
>>> Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
>>> dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word 
>>> period in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
 Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used 
 the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 
 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new 
 voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full 
 stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using other 
 American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my 
 Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
 Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
 setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used 
 the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great depression 
 was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do you have next 
 period?"
 Cheers,
 Nic
 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
There does seem to be some confusion here.  I used my Mac to do the little 
demonstration I did yesterday morning.  You seem to be using your Iphone.  I 
suspect that, for clarification, we might want to get that point across because 
some might think some of us are using Macs some our Iphones.  Not, mind you, 
that it should make any difference, but, it might.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I am truly confused! And here I thought I was helping somebody else avoid 
> some major confusion and headache!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 10:23 am, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> I was using my Mac, and therefore, straight dictation.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
>>> earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
>>> anyone else having this issue.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
 
 Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
 
 
 Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
 
 Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
 dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word 
 period in.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI Christine and all,
> I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
> VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
> Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used 
> the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to 
> iOS 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome 
> new voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full 
> stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using other 
> American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my 
> Australian English.
> Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
> Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does 
> it depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
> setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used 
> the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great depression 
> was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do you have next 
> period?"
> Cheers,
> Nic
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attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are attachments 
seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now gotten to via the 
file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, it applies to quick 
look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you can’t pick and choose which 
attachments to save.  They just all get dumped in to the download folder.  When 
you click on the “save attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog 
window pops up.  You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus 
on it.  You have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. 
Once you are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.


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Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Hi All,

Two quick questions;

Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer as 
audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.

Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?

They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?

Many thanks.



Regards,

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Re: Humanware displays under Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Scott Davert
Hi Matt.
I can confirm what Alex is saying. The Apex works fine with Bluetooth
and USB. The Focus displays seem to be having Bluetooth issues though.
At least, from my testing yesterday. Everything functions fine on USB
from what I can tell, it's the Bluetooth connections that seem to be
having issues.

Scott

On 10/25/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> well, I am writing this on my Apex. All seems to be working normally for
> now, though I do not often use braille with os10. The other nice thing is
> that you can have the same grade 2 translation routine on the Mac that you
> have in iOS7. That is where the Mac will not translate what you type until
> you press space, or space-4-5. The down side to this is that you cannot see
> the word you are typing as you type it, only after you hit  space. Overall,
> though, everything seems to be working well with Humanware displays, at
> least the Apex. If it matters, I am using a Bluetooth connection.
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Matt Dierckens 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey guys.
>> Does anyone using a HumanWare display with Mavericks know if they've
>> messed up accessibility? I have yet to update, but I'm seeing all these
>> bugs. Probably going to wait until 10.9.1 comes out.
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> Assistive Technology Trainer
>> IOS and Macintosh User support
>> Windsor area
>>
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Christine Grassman
I mentioned that this was an iPhone dictation issue in my first post.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 6:07 am, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> There does seem to be some confusion here.  I used my Mac to do the little 
> demonstration I did yesterday morning.  You seem to be using your Iphone.  I 
> suspect that, for clarification, we might want to get that point across 
> because some might think some of us are using Macs some our Iphones.  Not, 
> mind you, that it should make any difference, but, it might.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:10 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am truly confused! And here I thought I was helping somebody else avoid 
>> some major confusion and headache!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 10:23 am, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was using my Mac, and therefore, straight dictation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Christine Grassman  
 wrote:
 
 Are you using Siri or straight dictation?  If straight dictation, why on 
 earth is this happening only to me — at least, I haven’t seen posts from 
 anyone else having this issue.
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Well, I am going to say. In the sentence.
> 
> 
> Now, let me take a look and see what happened.
> 
> Well, you sort for yourselves. Whenever I said the word period , the 
> dictation actually put the punctuation in instead of putting the word 
> period in.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Christine and all,
>> I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
>> VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
>> Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I 
>> used the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading 
>> to iOS 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the 
>> awesome new voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I 
>> said full stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using 
>> other American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine 
>> to my Australian English.
>> Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
>> Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does 
>> it depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
>> setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you 
>> used the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great 
>> depression was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do 
>> you have next period?"
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Re: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.

2013-10-25 Thread Scott Davert
Hmm. My Braille Edge is functioning fine with Bluetooth and Mavericks.
I didn't get to test the Braille Sense products yet. The Mac I tried
this on had never been paired with the Edge before, so I'm not sure if
the problem is speratic or what.

Scott

On 10/24/13, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> Hi there
> I was doing okay with my braille Edge?,  in fact I told HIMS  that it was
> doing just fine. Then I had serious issues with text edit this morning, and
> thought maybe my braille display was the culprit. Then I took the braille
> display off, thinking it might help. Smart me! I tried to put it back on and
> forget it. It thought I had a braille edge 11, and it refused to pair. No
> surprise there right? And boy did I start having trouble with TextEdit
> navigating thanks, Nunneley TextEdit but everything else too. That was when
> we decided that I needed to go back to mountain kitty.
> Regards,
> Gigi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>
>> I am using the braille edge via bluetooth on mavericks with so far no
>> problem that I can tell. It was already paired before the upgrade in case
>> that makes a difference.
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I am forwarding this to warn those of you who may be impacted by this
>>> issue. it sounds like anyone using him as Braille  display may not wish
>>> to upgrade to Mavericks.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
 From: Jenny Axler 
 Date: October 23, 2013 at 2:12:02 PM CDT
 To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.
 Reply-To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com

 Attention Mac users:
 I am writing to inform you that we have discovered that the new
 Mavericks OS update breaks Bluetooth connectivity for HIMS Braille sense
 and Braille EDGE via VoiceOver.
 We are sorry for the inconvenience, however, unfortunately, there is
 nothing we can do as it is a problem in the Mac OS.
 If you are an affected Mac user, you may write to Apple’s accessibility
 team at:
 accessibility @apple.com
 I’m sorry for the disappointing news,
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RE: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Jesus Garcia
As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone has
a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and they
are at 100 percent.

  _  

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Subject: Mail in Mavericks


Hi All, 

Two quick questions;

Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press "send" is no longer
as audible as it used to be, I've looked in Sound Settings within System
Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the
aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.

Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save
them?

They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?

Many thanks.




Regards,

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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Don’t panic.  Your sounds are being effected by audio ducking.  What this means 
is that when voice over speaks, the regular Mac sounds get ducked under. This 
is the same as with the Iphone.  Should you wish to turn this off, you need 
only go to the Voice Over utilities under the soudns tab.  There, you can 
uncheck audio ducking.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone has 
> a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and they 
> are at 100 percent.
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - 
> TalkNav
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mail in Mavericks
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Two quick questions;
> 
> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
> 
> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
> 
> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
As for attachments, You will now need to consult the file menu.  This is the 
case for any attachment activity you wish to perform.

I would note, however, that you can still attach files to an e-mail message via 
the cut and paste method.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Two quick questions;
> 
> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
> 
> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
> 
> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Neil Barnfather
> 
> Talks List Administrator
> Twitter @neilbarnfather
> 
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> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Can you turn it off in the I phone too? 

Sent from my I phone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:00 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> Don’t panic.  Your sounds are being effected by audio ducking.  What this 
> means is that when voice over speaks, the regular Mac sounds get ducked 
> under. This is the same as with the Iphone.  Should you wish to turn this 
> off, you need only go to the Voice Over utilities under the soudns tab.  
> There, you can uncheck audio ducking.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>> 
>> As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone has 
>> a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and they 
>> are at 100 percent.
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - 
>> TalkNav
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mail in Mavericks
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Two quick questions;
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
>> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
>> 
>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
>> 
>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Nope.  I’m afraid that, with respect to the Iphone, we are just plain stuck 
with it on.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Can you turn it off in the I phone too? 
> 
> Sent from my I phone
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:00 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Don’t panic.  Your sounds are being effected by audio ducking.  What this 
>> means is that when voice over speaks, the regular Mac sounds get ducked 
>> under. This is the same as with the Iphone.  Should you wish to turn this 
>> off, you need only go to the Voice Over utilities under the soudns tab.  
>> There, you can uncheck audio ducking.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>> 
>>> As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone 
>>> has a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and 
>>> they are at 100 percent.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - 
>>> TalkNav
>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mail in Mavericks
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Two quick questions;
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of 
>>> the aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to 
>>> hear.
>>> 
>>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save 
>>> them?
>>> 
>>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> 
>>> Talks List Administrator
>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>> 
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread chris
Hello all
i am successfully using Mail under Mavericks. I have a Gmail account set up via 
pop/smtp. I also told Mail to never remove messages from the server, since this 
is not my primary machine, the Macbook Pro I mean.
Just thought I would share my observations so far.
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:02, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Can you turn it off in the I phone too? 
> 
> Sent from my I phone
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:00 pm, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> Don’t panic.  Your sounds are being effected by audio ducking.  What this 
>> means is that when voice over speaks, the regular Mac sounds get ducked 
>> under. This is the same as with the Iphone.  Should you wish to turn this 
>> off, you need only go to the Voice Over utilities under the soudns tab.  
>> There, you can uncheck audio ducking.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>> 
>>> As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone 
>>> has a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and 
>>> they are at 100 percent.
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - 
>>> TalkNav
>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mail in Mavericks
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Two quick questions;
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of 
>>> the aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to 
>>> hear.
>>> 
>>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save 
>>> them?
>>> 
>>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> 
>>> Talks List Administrator
>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>> 
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>> 
>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
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>>> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread chris
Found this and unchecked this option myself. Just used to how sounds are mixed 
with VoiceOver in the past. Cheers!
On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:00, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Don’t panic.  Your sounds are being effected by audio ducking.  What this 
> means is that when voice over speaks, the regular Mac sounds get ducked 
> under. This is the same as with the Iphone.  Should you wish to turn this 
> off, you need only go to the Voice Over utilities under the soudns tab.  
> There, you can uncheck audio ducking.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone has 
>> a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and they 
>> are at 100 percent.
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - 
>> TalkNav
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mail in Mavericks
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Two quick questions;
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
>> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
>> 
>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
>> 
>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>> 
>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>> 
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Re: email problems

2013-10-25 Thread alia robinson
Nope, didn’t help. the thing is I think it’s from the mail app itself, not a 
notification thing. I had do not disturb on last night, and it still does it. 
It’s just the mail app adding rows of email, and when it does it announces 
‘eight rows added, or whatever, but that interupts my email reading now when it 
didn’t before. thanks for all the suggestions. 

Alia
On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Edward Green  wrote:

> Hi Alia,
> 
> Sorry it didn’t work, Turning it off in Notification Centre solved it for me.
> 
> If you’re running Mountain Lion or higher, the other thing you could try is 
> to go into Mail, Preferences, General, and limit notifications to VIPs (it’s 
> set to Inbox only by default).  You could then simply not add anyone to your 
> VIP list and you shouldn’t get any notifications.  However, this obviously 
> won’t work if you use your VIP list.
> 
> Hope that works.
> 
> Ed

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Re: email problems

2013-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I'm still using ML, so the behaviour happens in the way you explain. It takes 
me back !the first message when new mail comes in. This is in conversation 
view. So your behaviour in Mavericks is nothing different or new if you are in 
conversation view.

Kawal.  

Sent from my I phone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 12:50 pm, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> Nope, didn’t help. the thing is I think it’s from the mail app itself, not a 
> notification thing. I had do not disturb on last night, and it still does it. 
> It’s just the mail app adding rows of email, and when it does it announces 
> ‘eight rows added, or whatever, but that interupts my email reading now when 
> it didn’t before. thanks for all the suggestions. 
> 
> Alia
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Edward Green  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alia,
>> 
>> Sorry it didn’t work, Turning it off in Notification Centre solved it for me.
>> 
>> If you’re running Mountain Lion or higher, the other thing you could try is 
>> to go into Mail, Preferences, General, and limit notifications to VIPs (it’s 
>> set to Inbox only by default).  You could then simply not add anyone to your 
>> VIP list and you shouldn’t get any notifications.  However, this obviously 
>> won’t work if you use your VIP list.
>> 
>> Hope that works.
>> 
>> Ed
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Re: email problems

2013-10-25 Thread alia robinson
That’s right. that’s why I stopped using conversation view. I had forgotten 
that, now it’s doing it in every view. the only work around I can think of is 
to disable automatically receiving mail which I can do, but would rather not. 

Alia
On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I'm still using ML, so the behaviour happens in the way you explain. It takes 
> me back !the first message when new mail comes in. This is in conversation 
> view. So your behaviour in Mavericks is nothing different or new if you are 
> in conversation view.

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Re: email problems

2013-10-25 Thread alia robinson
I could try that, it might work. thanks for the tip. I hope they fix this 
though. 

Alia
On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:30 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> I don't think it's a notification thing at all. What if you press command O 
> on the messages you want to read? This way it opens in a new window and so 
> VoiceOver shouldn't announce any new rows added.

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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Christine Grassman
I have Siri set to US English, because I prefer the male voice, but the default 
language set to Australian for VoiceOver, but not sure about the global 
language for the iPhone; I have regional set to Australian, I think. Is there 
another language setting I am missing somewhere?

On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
wrote:

> Does it have something to do with your language setting? The VoiceOver 
> language, the global iPhone language or the Siri language? Do you have all 
> three set to US English?
> 
> On 25/10/2013, at 5:23 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
> That is exactly what I am doing. Very strange.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Christine Grassman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word 
>>> period at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit 
>>> manually to insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
  wrote:
 
 HI Christine and all,
 I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
 VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
 Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used 
 the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to iOS 
 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome new 
 voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full 
 stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using other 
 American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my 
 Australian English.
 Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
 Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does it 
 depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
 setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used 
 the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great depression 
 was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do you have next 
 period?"
 Cheers,
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Re: Humanware displays under Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Matt Dierckens
Thank you so much.
Great to know.
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On 2013-10-25, at 6:46 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:

> Hi Matt.
> I can confirm what Alex is saying. The Apex works fine with Bluetooth
> and USB. The Focus displays seem to be having Bluetooth issues though.
> At least, from my testing yesterday. Everything functions fine on USB
> from what I can tell, it's the Bluetooth connections that seem to be
> having issues.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 10/25/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> well, I am writing this on my Apex. All seems to be working normally for
>> now, though I do not often use braille with os10. The other nice thing is
>> that you can have the same grade 2 translation routine on the Mac that you
>> have in iOS7. That is where the Mac will not translate what you type until
>> you press space, or space-4-5. The down side to this is that you cannot see
>> the word you are typing as you type it, only after you hit  space. Overall,
>> though, everything seems to be working well with Humanware displays, at
>> least the Apex. If it matters, I am using a Bluetooth connection.
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Matt Dierckens 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey guys.
>>> Does anyone using a HumanWare display with Mavericks know if they've
>>> messed up accessibility? I have yet to update, but I'm seeing all these
>>> bugs. Probably going to wait until 10.9.1 comes out.
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
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>>> Windsor area
>>> 
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Re: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.

2013-10-25 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hey Scott. Whatever you do, if it's working fine, don't take it off or you may 
not get it back until somebody figures out and fixes what's wrong. It never 
occurred to me that my computer wouldn't even let me do USB yesterday and 
wouldn't even show me a list of braille displays on the table in VoiceOver 
Utility. But you're probably smarter than me, so you won't do what I did. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:50 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:

> Hmm. My Braille Edge is functioning fine with Bluetooth and Mavericks.
> I didn't get to test the Braille Sense products yet. The Mac I tried
> this on had never been paired with the Edge before, so I'm not sure if
> the problem is speratic or what.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 10/24/13, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> Hi there
>> I was doing okay with my braille Edge?,  in fact I told HIMS  that it was
>> doing just fine. Then I had serious issues with text edit this morning, and
>> thought maybe my braille display was the culprit. Then I took the braille
>> display off, thinking it might help. Smart me! I tried to put it back on and
>> forget it. It thought I had a braille edge 11, and it refused to pair. No
>> surprise there right? And boy did I start having trouble with TextEdit
>> navigating thanks, Nunneley TextEdit but everything else too. That was when
>> we decided that I needed to go back to mountain kitty.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am using the braille edge via bluetooth on mavericks with so far no
>>> problem that I can tell. It was already paired before the upgrade in case
>>> that makes a difference.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I am forwarding this to warn those of you who may be impacted by this
 issue. it sounds like anyone using him as Braille  display may not wish
 to upgrade to Mavericks.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Jenny Axler 
> Date: October 23, 2013 at 2:12:02 PM CDT
> To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [HIMS-Notetakers] Mavericks and HIMS Braille displays.
> Reply-To: hims-notetak...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Attention Mac users:
> I am writing to inform you that we have discovered that the new
> Mavericks OS update breaks Bluetooth connectivity for HIMS Braille sense
> and Braille EDGE via VoiceOver.
> We are sorry for the inconvenience, however, unfortunately, there is
> nothing we can do as it is a problem in the Mac OS.
> If you are an affected Mac user, you may write to Apple’s accessibility
> team at:
> accessibility @apple.com
> I’m sorry for the disappointing news,
> Jenny
> 
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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I think the regional setting might be causing the issue.  Did you try changing 
that to U.S.?

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I have Siri set to US English, because I prefer the male voice, but the 
> default language set to Australian for VoiceOver, but not sure about the 
> global language for the iPhone; I have regional set to Australian, I think. 
> Is there another language setting I am missing somewhere?
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Does it have something to do with your language setting? The VoiceOver 
>> language, the global iPhone language or the Siri language? Do you have all 
>> three set to US English?
>> 
>> On 25/10/2013, at 5:23 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>> 
>> That is exactly what I am doing. Very strange.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
 
 I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word 
 period at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit 
 manually to insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>  wrote:
> 
> HI Christine and all,
> I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
> VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
> Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I used 
> the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading to 
> iOS 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the awesome 
> new voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I said full 
> stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using other 
> American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine to my 
> Australian English.
> Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
> Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does 
> it depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
> setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you used 
> the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great depression 
> was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do you have next 
> period?"
> Cheers,
> Nic
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Re: aggregate audio device not working?

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I have a script that I use with audio hijack that allows me to record my mic 
and any other audio simultaneously.  The thing is, they are record in separate 
files so I have to then combine them in an app like garageband or audacity and 
export as 1 file.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have always heard of people using Soundflower or Audio Hijack plus 
> microphones through the magic of aggregate audio devices. I have never been 
> able to get them to work, however. For now, I just want my USB microphone and 
> my line-in port to act as one device, so I can record both sources 
> simultaneously. My mic works fine in recordings, but the line-in is silent. 
> This has never worked for me under Mountain Lion, and still does not work in 
> Maverix. I have both devices selected in the devices table of my aggregate, 
> but the mic is the only device that works. Does anyone have any suggestions? 
> I’m really getting tired of this not working correctly… Thanks in advance for 
> any ideas.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: aggregate audio device not working?

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
I don’t have Audio Hijack, as it costs a good amount of money. Using aggregate 
audio devices and Sound Flower should be enough, but aggregates have never 
worked for me. Is there a trick, such as a setting or something, that I’m 
missing?
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a script that I use with audio hijack that allows me to record my mic 
> and any other audio simultaneously.  The thing is, they are record in 
> separate files so I have to then combine them in an app like garageband or 
> audacity and export as 1 file.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have always heard of people using Soundflower or Audio Hijack plus 
>> microphones through the magic of aggregate audio devices. I have never been 
>> able to get them to work, however. For now, I just want my USB microphone 
>> and my line-in port to act as one device, so I can record both sources 
>> simultaneously. My mic works fine in recordings, but the line-in is silent. 
>> This has never worked for me under Mountain Lion, and still does not work in 
>> Maverix. I have both devices selected in the devices table of my aggregate, 
>> but the mic is the only device that works. Does anyone have any suggestions? 
>> I’m really getting tired of this not working correctly… Thanks in advance 
>> for any ideas.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Kliphton -------
This is not true, at least for me it’s not.  I was still able to press command 
shift A and the attachment menu showed up.  I was able to go to my documents 
folder, select a file, and then send it.  Maybe your system is set up 
differently, but it works on mine.
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> As for attachments, You will now need to consult the file menu.  This is the 
> case for any attachment activity you wish to perform.
> 
> I would note, however, that you can still attach files to an e-mail message 
> via the cut and paste method.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Two quick questions;
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
>> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
>> 
>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
>> 
>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Neil Barnfather
>> 
>> Talks List Administrator
>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>> 
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>> 
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saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
fact.


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Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-25 Thread Jamie Pauls
What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about using 
iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and dirty 
workarounds.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, guess I’m lucky. I’m not having any problems with gmail and mavericks, 
> but this is definitely an email I’ll keep in case something changes and I 
> need this at a future date.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some of 
>> it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance, 
>> All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail 
>> kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail 
>> on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages 
>> get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have, 
>> which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to 
>> explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with 
>> Gmail and Mail. basically, the “all mail” folder gets placed in the archive 
>> folder, and it’s necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the 
>> website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a 
>> show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels 
>> from the Gmail site, and you’d have to set up local rules for filtering 
>> messages in apple Mail. Also, you can’t move Gmail folders in apple mail.
>> 
>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I’m on, and I sync my mail with 
>> my iPod, I’m going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do, do 
>> *not* go into the “all mail” folder on your devices if you sync with them, 
>> because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have something 
>> like twenty thousand messages in my ‘all mail” folder.
>> 
>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just thought 
>> I’d clarify things just a tad. I hope it’s clarified, at any rate. :)
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Never used to use Cmd+shift+A to do that.  Gonna have to give it a try next 
time one comes in.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Kliphton ---  wrote:

> This is not true, at least for me it’s not.  I was still able to press 
> command shift A and the attachment menu showed up.  I was able to go to my 
> documents folder, select a file, and then send it.  Maybe your system is set 
> up differently, but it works on mine.
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> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> As for attachments, You will now need to consult the file menu.  This is the 
>> case for any attachment activity you wish to perform.
>> 
>> I would note, however, that you can still attach files to an e-mail message 
>> via the cut and paste method.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Two quick questions;
>>> 
>>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of 
>>> the aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to 
>>> hear.
>>> 
>>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save 
>>> them?
>>> 
>>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Neil Barnfather
>>> 
>>> Talks List Administrator
>>> Twitter @neilbarnfather
>>> 
>>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple 
>>> iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
>>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
>>> 
>>> URL: - www.talknav.com
>>> e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com
>>> Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
>>> 
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
It may have to do with the different ways in which some of us have been used to 
doing it.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
> exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
> fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
> fact.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: Logos progrm on Mac or iPad

2013-10-25 Thread Mike Arrigo
Last I checked, these programs were not very accessible, but there is a 
work around. If you go to http://biblia.com you can log in with your 
email address and password and read your purchased books in your web 
browser. If you do this on a desktop computer, choose the option to 
switch to mobile view. This will disable the automatic scrolling which 
will make each section easier to read.

Original message:
Hi, all! Does anyone know if the logos bible program is accessible with 
VoiceOver either on the Mac or the iPad? I could use this program, or 
at least something like it for Bible-studies and such things, cause I'm 
going to a Bible college. I have three bible programs on my computer, 
and none of them work; the accordance program is completely 
inaccessible; you can do everything with it except get VoiceOver to 
read the Bible (Sheesh, what else is a Bible program for if you can't 
actually read the Bible on the darned thing), and my River Bible 
program doesn't work at all, and neither does MacSword, at least not 
with Mavericks.  (It just barely worked the last time, never mind now; 
it won't even launch, and with the river Bible, it just keeps crashing 
and saying that there's a problem report). I really need something 
that'll work soon, so if someone can tell me what to do, that'l be 
awesome. I'm leaving for a Mission Exposure trip in January, and if my 
computer won't work, I pretty much won't be able to take my Bible with 
me, except the ones on my iPhone, but the iPhone ones go crazy after 
awhile when I have no service; either that or they work so slowly it 
takes forever to find one passage. Does anyone have an iPad they'd like 
to get rid of? I'd want it to be in decent shape obviously, but I'd be 
willing to pay a decent price for it, and if all the cases and what-not 
could come with it too, that'd be all the more awesome, and my 
professor promised to bring his iPad to school and he has logos on it, 
so hopefully we'll be able to find out if it works with VoiceOver, 
which I don't think it did on my phone. Sorry, but I'm kind of 
desperate, cause my braille Bible's huge, and you'd pretty much need a 
van or a decent sized car to carry it alone, never mind me and my other 
stuff and the rest of our group, so I can't take it along on the 
mission exposure trip.

Thanks!



God Bless!!!
Helena


May The Lord Bless you and keep you; May his face radiate with joy 
because of you' May He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and 
give you His peace.

(Numbers 6;24)



In Jesus' Name.
Amen



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Re: aggregate audio device not working?

2013-10-25 Thread Matt Dierckens
Hi, question. Is there a way that I could get a copy of that script?
I'm trying to do podcasts, and being unable to record simultaneously, is 
irritating
Matt Dierckens
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Assistive Technology Trainer
IOS and Macintosh User support
Windsor area


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> I don’t have Audio Hijack, as it costs a good amount of money. Using 
> aggregate audio devices and Sound Flower should be enough, but aggregates 
> have never worked for me. Is there a trick, such as a setting or something, 
> that I’m missing?
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a script that I use with audio hijack that allows me to record my mic 
>> and any other audio simultaneously.  The thing is, they are record in 
>> separate files so I have to then combine them in an app like garageband or 
>> audacity and export as 1 file.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I have always heard of people using Soundflower or Audio Hijack plus 
>>> microphones through the magic of aggregate audio devices. I have never been 
>>> able to get them to work, however. For now, I just want my USB microphone 
>>> and my line-in port to act as one device, so I can record both sources 
>>> simultaneously. My mic works fine in recordings, but the line-in is silent. 
>>> This has never worked for me under Mountain Lion, and still does not work 
>>> in Maverix. I have both devices selected in the devices table of my 
>>> aggregate, but the mic is the only device that works. Does anyone have any 
>>> suggestions? I’m really getting tired of this not working correctly… Thanks 
>>> in advance for any ideas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: aggregate audio device not working?

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

You can find the scripts here. 
http://www.appletothecore.info/2012/07/apple-to-core-episode-6.html

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi, question. Is there a way that I could get a copy of that script?
> I'm trying to do podcasts, and being unable to record simultaneously, is 
> irritating
> Matt Dierckens
> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
> Assistive Technology Trainer
> IOS and Macintosh User support
> Windsor area
> 
> 
> On 2013-10-25, at 9:27 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I don’t have Audio Hijack, as it costs a good amount of money. Using 
>> aggregate audio devices and Sound Flower should be enough, but aggregates 
>> have never worked for me. Is there a trick, such as a setting or something, 
>> that I’m missing?
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have a script that I use with audio hijack that allows me to record my 
>>> mic and any other audio simultaneously.  The thing is, they are record in 
>>> separate files so I have to then combine them in an app like garageband or 
>>> audacity and export as 1 file.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I have always heard of people using Soundflower or Audio Hijack plus 
 microphones through the magic of aggregate audio devices. I have never 
 been able to get them to work, however. For now, I just want my USB 
 microphone and my line-in port to act as one device, so I can record both 
 sources simultaneously. My mic works fine in recordings, but the line-in 
 is silent. This has never worked for me under Mountain Lion, and still 
 does not work in Maverix. I have both devices selected in the devices 
 table of my aggregate, but the mic is the only device that works. Does 
 anyone have any suggestions? I’m really getting tired of this not working 
 correctly… Thanks in advance for any ideas.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so now 
I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to re-hide it? 
If so, how? Thanks for any help.


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Re: Mail in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
thanks! all working now!



Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, 
Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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Phone: - +44  844 999 4199

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> As for attachments, You will now need to consult the file menu.  This is the 
> case for any attachment activity you wish to perform.
> 
> I would note, however, that you can still attach files to an e-mail message 
> via the cut and paste method.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
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> On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Two quick questions;
>> 
>> Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press “send” is no longer 
>> as audible as it used to be, I’ve looked in Sound Settings within System 
>> Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the 
>> aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.
>> 
>> Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save them?
>> 
>> They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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>> 
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-25 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello Cameron,

I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard so it 
doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as a resource 
for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac World or on Apple 
sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to be generated against 
createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all the documentation I've read 
suggests that it should.

Good luck and happy hacking.

Gena

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Applied Psychologist
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On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:

> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello Cameron,
>> 
>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>> have different installers for target platforms.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
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>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>>> in case anybody was curious.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
 /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
 
 Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
 wrote:
 
> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
> folder.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
>> put
>> in your password
>> Angelo
>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
>>> no
>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>> the OK button.
>>> 
>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
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Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and 
could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I work 
in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the Blind in 
the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book which I don't 
have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille next year as all 
transcription will be going UEB. 

So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
someone send it to me please?

Thank you very much.

Kawal.

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Re: In Case Anyone Was Caught Off Guard When Dictating . . . . . .

2013-10-25 Thread Christine Grassman
I will try. Thing is, it has always been set that way. This did not happen 
until after 7.03.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I think the regional setting might be causing the issue.  Did you try 
> changing that to U.S.?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:17 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> I have Siri set to US English, because I prefer the male voice, but the 
>> default language set to Australian for VoiceOver, but not sure about the 
>> global language for the iPhone; I have regional set to Australian, I think. 
>> Is there another language setting I am missing somewhere?
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:57 AM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Does it have something to do with your language setting? The VoiceOver 
>>> language, the global iPhone language or the Siri language? Do you have all 
>>> three set to US English?
>>> 
>>> On 25/10/2013, at 5:23 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is exactly what I am doing. Very strange.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Christine Grassman  
 wrote:
 
 I’m not using Siri, just straight dictation.
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
> I am using voice dictation to reply to this message and using the word 
> period at the end of my sentences with no problem.  I did have to edit 
> manually to insert that word in the middle of the sentence, however.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Christine and all,
>> I'm Australian and until recently used Siri in Australian English with 
>> VoiceOver's default language also being Australian English. Ever since 
>> Siri could understand punctuation, I think sometime back in iOS 5, I 
>> used the word "full stop" and Siri understood this fine. After upgrading 
>> to iOS 7 I switched Siri's language to US English as I wanted the 
>> awesome new voices. To my surprise, Siri still knew what I meant when I 
>> said full stop. I thought I might need to start saying "period" or using 
>> other American words or phrases but Siri seems to react perfectly fine 
>> to my Australian English.
>> Although this is great for me, it does seem difficult for Americans if 
>> Siri can't understand what period means in context. I'm wondering, does 
>> it depend on your phone's language setting rather than Siri' language 
>> setting? Also, even when it was working, how would it react when you 
>> used the word "period" in other contexts? For instance, "The great 
>> depression was a difficult period for many people," or "What class do 
>> you have next period?"
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Traci Duncan
Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want to 
go in and delete some of my station seeds.

Thank you,
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Re: hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Alex,

According to Mail’s online help, it’s supposed to be a double-click toggle. I 
can’t even find it with the preview pane showing. The “horizontal bar” is no 
longer announced. I think that is most strange. sorry I couldn’t be of more 
help.

teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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> Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
> was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
> after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so 
> now I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to re-hide 
> it? If so, how? Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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Re: hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oops, I just restated what you did. LOL More coffee for me. sorry!

Teresa

"The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham

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> Hi all,
> Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
> was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
> after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so 
> now I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to re-hide 
> it? If so, how? Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
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> 
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Re: hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
That’s okay. If you figure it out, please let me know as this is really 
annoying me! It even messes with your preview lines setting when it’s on, plus 
marks everything as read if you just arrow over it.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Oops, I just restated what you did. LOL More coffee for me. sorry!
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
>> was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
>> after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so 
>> now I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to 
>> re-hide it? If so, how? Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello all,

It’s true that interacting with headers and navigating right no longer gets us 
to the Save button, but navigating to the attachment in the body of the message 
and getting a contextual menu (VO-Shift-m) gives us the Save dialogue.

Cheers,

Anne


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> Hi all,
> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
> exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
> fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
> fact.
> 
> 
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread mario navarro


hi.
and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message 
file is attached ...

that's crazy.
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:

For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are attachments 
seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now gotten to via the 
file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, it applies to quick 
look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you can’t pick and choose which 
attachments to save.  They just all get dumped in to the download folder.  When 
you click on the “save attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog 
window pops up.  You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus 
on it.  You have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. 
Once you are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.


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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Not on mine at all.  I assume you are running 10.9?


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On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> It’s true that interacting with headers and navigating right no longer gets 
> us to the Save button, but navigating to the attachment in the body of the 
> message and getting a contextual menu (VO-Shift-m) gives us the Save dialogue.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 15:36, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
>> exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
>> fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
>> fact.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play.  IN 
fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more sounds for 
different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the sounds are a 
little lower in volume than they used to be even without ducking checked.  
Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds even more closely.


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On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:

> 
> hi.
> and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
> every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message file 
> is attached ...
> that's crazy.
> cheers.
> Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:
>> For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
>> mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are attachments 
>> seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now gotten to via 
>> the file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, it applies to 
>> quick look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you can’t pick and 
>> choose which attachments to save.  They just all get dumped in to the 
>> download folder.  When you click on the “save attachments…” in the file 
>> menu, the standard save dialog window pops up.  You don’t know this however, 
>> because Voice Over doesn’t focus on it.  You have to manually look for and 
>> choose the window via VO+F2 twice. Once you are in that save dialog window, 
>> All is as you are familuar with.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread mario navarro


hi.
I did not know this!
a sound?
ok, I'll have to get used to.
thanks.
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 17:05, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:

No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play.  IN 
fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more sounds for 
different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the sounds are a 
little lower in volume than they used to be even without ducking checked.  
Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds even more closely.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:


hi.
and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message file is 
attached ...
that's crazy.
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:

For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are attachments 
seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now gotten to via the 
file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, it applies to quick 
look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you can’t pick and choose which 
attachments to save.  They just all get dumped in to the download folder.  When 
you click on the “save attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog 
window pops up.  You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus 
on it.  You have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. 
Once you are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.


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Re: hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Chris H
I needed a reminder on how to show the preview pain as I thought one 
could jump to it with Vo J. But alas on my Macbook Pro at least I could 
only jump from the messages table to the mailboxes table and vice versa. 
I just couldn't remember what to double click on. I tried the splitter 
before one of the tables but nothing happened. I now can remember what 
to do. Cheers!


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On 25/10/2013 15:47, Alex Hall wrote:

Hi all,
Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so now 
I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to re-hide it? 
If so, how? Thanks for any help.


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Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Edward Green
Hi all,

I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done 
over Apple’s servers.

Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it 
and thought it may be of interest.

Cheers,

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Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Chris H

So how do I do this? Do I go to System Preferences Dictation and Speech?

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On 25/10/2013 17:20, Edward Green wrote:

Hi all,

I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done 
over Apple’s servers.

Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it 
and thought it may be of interest.

Cheers,

Ed



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Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Edward Green
Got it in one.  It’s on the dictation tab, and you need to tick the enhanced 
dictation check box.

Cheers,

Ed
On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:41, Chris H  wrote:

> So how do I do this? Do I go to System Preferences Dictation and Speech?
> 
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
> 
> On 25/10/2013 17:20, Edward Green wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
>> Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
>> Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done 
>> over Apple’s servers.
>> 
>> Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it 
>> and thought it may be of interest.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-25 Thread BBS
Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a bootable 
installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem is that the 
darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on the download 
button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just asks if I want 
to continue with the download and does nothing after that. Meaning when I go to 
the status to check on the download, Voiceover says it’s blank rather than 
telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have any suggestions?

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello Cameron,
> 
> I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard so 
> it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as a 
> resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac World 
> or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to be 
> generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all the 
> documentation I've read suggests that it should.
> 
> Good luck and happy hacking.
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
>> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> Hello Cameron,
>>> 
>>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
>>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>>> have different installers for target platforms.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Georgina Joyce
>>> Applied Psychologist
>>> Training and Coaching.
>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>>> 
 The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
 in case anybody was curious.
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 
 On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
> 
> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
>> folder.
>> 
>> Any other suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
>>> put
>>> in your password
>>> Angelo
>>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
 no
 luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
 clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
 progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
 the OK button.
 
 now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
 downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
 and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
 machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: hide Mail's preview pane in 10.9?

2013-10-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Chris,

I don’t know about modern view in Mail, but in classic view, turn Quick Nav 
off, navigate to the Messages table but don’t interact, then press VO-Down 
Arrow and you should be on the horizontal splitter that you need to double 
click on.

Cheers,

Anne
 

On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:19, Chris H  wrote:

> I needed a reminder on how to show the preview pain as I thought one could 
> jump to it with Vo J. But alas on my Macbook Pro at least I could only jump 
> from the messages table to the mailboxes table and vice versa. I just 
> couldn't remember what to double click on. I tried the splitter before one of 
> the tables but nothing happened. I now can remember what to do. Cheers!
> 
> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
> christopher...@gmail.com
> 
> On 25/10/2013 15:47, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Someone on Twitter asked me how to hide the preview pane in Mail. Since mine 
>> was already hidden, I showed it again by double clicking the splitter right 
>> after the messages group. The pane appeared, but the splitter went away, so 
>> now I have nothing to click to hide the pane again. Is there a way to 
>> re-hide it? If so, how? Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Yes, I’m running Mavericks which is why I can no longer interact with headers, 
navigate right and find the Save popup menu.

I’m using classic view with the preview pane turned off.

Mail is working just fine for me.

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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Mario,

You can show attachments in the messages table by going to the View menu, down 
to the Columns submenu and pressing Return on Attachments.

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Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Richard Ring
Thanks for this great tip! I’m downloading it now!


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On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:58 AM, Edward Green  wrote:

> Got it in one.  It’s on the dictation tab, and you need to tick the enhanced 
> dictation check box.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ed
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:41, Chris H  wrote:
> 
>> So how do I do this? Do I go to System Preferences Dictation and Speech?
>> 
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> christopher...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On 25/10/2013 17:20, Edward Green wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
>>> Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
>>> Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was 
>>> done over Apple’s servers.
>>> 
>>> Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen 
>>> it and thought it may be of interest.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
I have not noticed the sound. Is this only in Classic View? I'm using standard 
view, and have not heard any new sounds.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play.  
> IN fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more sounds 
> for different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the sounds are 
> a little lower in volume than they used to be even without ducking checked.  
> Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds even more closely.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> hi.
>> and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
>> every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message file 
>> is attached ...
>> that's crazy.
>> cheers.
>> Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:
>>> For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
>>> mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are 
>>> attachments seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now 
>>> gotten to via the file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, 
>>> it applies to quick look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you 
>>> can’t pick and choose which attachments to save.  They just all get dumped 
>>> in to the download folder.  When you click on the “save attachments…” in 
>>> the file menu, the standard save dialog window pops up.  You don’t know 
>>> this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus on it.  You have to manually 
>>> look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. Once you are in that save 
>>> dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
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Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi,
could you send a link or could you explain how to do this?
All the best
Jürgen

Am 25.10.2013 um 18:20 schrieb Edward Green :

> Hi all,
> 
> I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
> Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
> Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done 
> over Apple’s servers.
> 
> Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it 
> and thought it may be of interest.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ed
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
The view does not matter.  You might perhaps check out the sounds section of 
Voice Over help.  There, you will find many sounds which were not there before.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I have not noticed the sound. Is this only in Classic View? I'm using 
> standard view, and have not heard any new sounds.
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play.  
>> IN fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more sounds 
>> for different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the sounds are 
>> a little lower in volume than they used to be even without ducking checked.  
>> Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds even more closely.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> hi.
>>> and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
>>> every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message 
>>> file is attached ...
>>> that's crazy.
>>> cheers.
>>> Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:
 For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments 
 in mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are 
 attachments seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now 
 gotten to via the file menu.  This pertains to not only saving 
 attachments, it applies to quick look for mail attachments also.  Now, it 
 seems, you can’t pick and choose which attachments to save.  They just all 
 get dumped in to the download folder.  When you click on the “save 
 attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog window pops up.  
 You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus on it.  You 
 have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. Once you 
 are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread mario navarro


hi my friend.
I thought it was no longer possible to select and deselect the 
attachments to show in the message.
as not yet upgraded to the Mavericks, I'm just reading the comments of 
the friends group.

I am thinking of upgrading to a week.
thanks.
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 18:20, Anne Robertson escreveu:

Hello Mario,

You can show attachments in the messages table by going to the View menu, down 
to the Columns submenu and pressing Return on Attachments.

Cheers,

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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread mario navarro


ah ok, it's good to know.
nice!
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 18:44, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:

The view does not matter.  You might perhaps check out the sounds section of 
Voice Over help.  There, you will find many sounds which were not there before.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:


I have not noticed the sound. Is this only in Classic View? I'm using standard 
view, and have not heard any new sounds.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:


No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play.  IN 
fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more sounds for 
different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the sounds are a 
little lower in volume than they used to be even without ducking checked.  
Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds even more closely.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:


hi.
and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message file is 
attached ...
that's crazy.
cheers.
Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:

For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments in 
mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are attachments 
seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now gotten to via the 
file menu.  This pertains to not only saving attachments, it applies to quick 
look for mail attachments also.  Now, it seems, you can’t pick and choose which 
attachments to save.  They just all get dumped in to the download folder.  When 
you click on the “save attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog 
window pops up.  You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus 
on it.  You have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. 
Once you are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.


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Re: attachments in mail now more logical

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
I misspoke… Mistyped… Whatever.  Anyway, I have not heard any sounds at 
all, and I have been moving past messages with attachments ever since I 
installed Maverix. I noticed the new sound that plays for embedded text, such 
as in address fields when composing a message, but that’s all. Am I 
misunderstanding you, or is this yet another Mail bug?
On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> The view does not matter.  You might perhaps check out the sounds section of 
> Voice Over help.  There, you will find many sounds which were not there 
> before.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I have not noticed the sound. Is this only in Classic View? I'm using 
>> standard view, and have not heard any new sounds.
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> No, you don’t.  IF a message has an attaachment, a special sound will play. 
>>>  IN fact, that sort of leads me to the observation that there are more 
>>> sounds for different things in 10.9 than there used to be:  however, the 
>>> sounds are a little lower in volume than they used to be even without 
>>> ducking checked.  Check ducking, and you will have to listen for sounds 
>>> even more closely.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:55 AM, mario navarro  wrote:
>>> 
 
 hi.
 and how do I know that the message is attached. lol!
 every time I read a message I have to go see on the menu if the message 
 file is attached ...
 that's crazy.
 cheers.
 Em 25/10/2013 11:11, Ray Foret Jr escreveu:
> For the person the other day who was having issues receiving attachments 
> in mail, the answer is to look in the file menu now.  No longer are 
> attachments seen in the body of messages as before:  rather, they are now 
> gotten to via the file menu.  This pertains to not only saving 
> attachments, it applies to quick look for mail attachments also.  Now, it 
> seems, you can’t pick and choose which attachments to save.  They just 
> all get dumped in to the download folder.  When you click on the “save 
> attachments…” in the file menu, the standard save dialog window pops up.  
> You don’t know this however, because Voice Over doesn’t focus on it.  You 
> have to manually look for and choose the window via VO+F2 twice. Once you 
> are in that save dialog window, All is as you are familuar with.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-25 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

What is in your /Applications folder, in the way of the installer?



Gena

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Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:02, BBS  wrote:

> Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a 
> bootable installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem is 
> that the darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on the 
> download button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just asks 
> if I want to continue with the download and does nothing after that. Meaning 
> when I go to the status to check on the download, Voiceover says it’s blank 
> rather than telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have any 
> suggestions?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White Mac Book
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Cameron,
>> 
>> I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard so 
>> it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as a 
>> resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac World 
>> or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to be 
>> generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all the 
>> documentation I've read suggests that it should.
>> 
>> Good luck and happy hacking.
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
>>> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 Hello Cameron,
 
 Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
 does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
 create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
 stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
 /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
 have different installers for target platforms.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 
 Gena
 
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  wrote:
 
> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
> in case anybody was curious.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>> 
>> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
>>> folder.
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
 try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
 put
 in your password
 Angelo
 a.rock...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
 
 wrote:
 
> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
> no
> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
> the OK button.
> 
> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-25 Thread BBS
Hi Gena. There is no installer in my apps folder.

Shawn
Sent From My White Mac Book

On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> What is in your /Applications folder, in the way of the installer?
> 
> 
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:02, BBS  wrote:
> 
>> Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a 
>> bootable installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem 
>> is that the darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on 
>> the download button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just 
>> asks if I want to continue with the download and does nothing after that. 
>> Meaning when I go to the status to check on the download, Voiceover says 
>> it’s blank rather than telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have 
>> any suggestions?
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Cameron,
>>> 
>>> I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard 
>>> so it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as 
>>> a resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac 
>>> World or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to 
>>> be generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all 
>>> the documentation I've read suggests that it should.
>>> 
>>> Good luck and happy hacking.
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> Georgina Joyce
>>> Applied Psychologist
>>> Training and Coaching.
>>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
>>> 
 Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
 in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> Hello Cameron,
> 
> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, called
> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
> have different installers for target platforms.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Gena
> 
> Gena
> 
> Georgina Joyce
> Applied Psychologist
> Training and Coaching.
> Because individuals of groups matter!
> 
> 
> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  
> wrote:
> 
>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>> in case anybody was curious.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
>>> /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
>>> 
>>> Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
 folder.
 
 Any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cameron.
 
 
 
 On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after you
> put
> in your password
> Angelo
> a.rock...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
>> no
>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>> the OK button.
>> 
>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app store
>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does nothing at all.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Does anybody know where the apps etc are actually downloaded to?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
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RE: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-25 Thread Jeff Bishop
There are a few:

iCloud
outlook.com (they now support imap and you can even bring your domain)
office365 ($4 per month but a huge deal if you want to pay for email)


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about using
iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and dirty
workarounds.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, guess I'm lucky. I'm not having any problems with gmail and
mavericks, but this is definitely an email I'll keep in case something
changes and I need this at a future date.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons
 wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. Some
of it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance,
All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail
kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail
on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages
get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have,
which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to
explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran 
wrote:
>> 
>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus with
Gmail and Mail. basically, the "all mail" folder gets placed in the archive
folder, and it's necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the
website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a
show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels
from the Gmail site, and you'd have to set up local rules for filtering
messages in apple Mail. Also, you can't move Gmail folders in apple mail.
>> 
>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I'm on, and I sync my mail
with my iPod, I'm going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do,
do *not* go into the "all mail" folder on your devices if you sync with
them, because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have
something like twenty thousand messages in my 'all mail" folder.
>> 
>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just
thought I'd clarify things just a tad. I hope it's clarified, at any rate.
:)
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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Re: Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi Traci,

There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to Voiceover.  
When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or thumbs is to put 
vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the mouse over to the right 
until clicking would remove what I was wanting.  It takes some trial and error.


On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want to 
go in and delete some of my station seeds.

Thank you,
Traci

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Twitterrific for mac

2013-10-25 Thread Chris H

Subject says most of it. Is it accessible like Twitterrific for iOS?
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Re: can't download Mavericks...

2013-10-25 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

I guess you will have to wait until an update is produced. If you have tried 
selecting Mavericks from your downloaded section of the app store.

Gena
Georgina Joyce
Applied Psychologist
Training and Coaching.
Because individuals of groups matter!


On 25 Oct 2013, at 19:20, BBS  wrote:

> Hi Gena. There is no installer in my apps folder.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White Mac Book
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> What is in your /Applications folder, in the way of the installer?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:02, BBS  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all. I’m having a little bit of a problem here. I want to create a 
>>> bootable installer for Mavericks now that I’ve updated it, but the problem 
>>> is that the darn thing won’t download. No matter how many times I click on 
>>> the download button in the purchases section, it won’t download it. It just 
>>> asks if I want to continue with the download and does nothing after that. 
>>> Meaning when I go to the status to check on the download, Voiceover says 
>>> it’s blank rather than telling me if it’s downloading or not. Anybody have 
>>> any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White Mac Book
>>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Cameron,
 
 I guess folk will have to take your word on it. I don't have snow leopard 
 so it doesn't affect me. However, there may be people who use this list as 
 a resource for accurate information. I haven't read anything within Mac 
 World or on Apple sites reporting the same. I would expect a bug report to 
 be generated against createinstallmedia if it doesn't work on SL. As all 
 the documentation I've read suggests that it should.
 
 Good luck and happy hacking.
 
 Gena
 
 Georgina Joyce
 Applied Psychologist
 Training and Coaching.
 Because individuals of groups matter!
 
 
 On 25 Oct 2013, at 02:35, Cameron Strife  wrote:
 
> Yes, I am aware of what the command does. And regarding it not working
> in sl, it was noted in the mac world series covering OSX Mavericks.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>> Hello Cameron,
>> 
>> Really, where did you read that? Have you looked to see what the command
>> does? All it does is to call a program within the installer itself, 
>> called
>> create install media and passes it some parameters. Such as where the USB
>> stick is located and no interaction? Does SL not mount USB sticks on
>> /Volumes? Was your USB Stick labeled Untitled? It wouldn't make sense to
>> have different installers for target platforms.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Gena
>> 
>> Georgina Joyce
>> Applied Psychologist
>> Training and Coaching.
>> Because individuals of groups matter!
>> 
>> 
>> On 24 Oct 2013, at 15:57, Cameron Strife  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The terminal option only works in lion or mountain lion, not sl just
>>> in case anybody was curious.
>>> 
>>> Cameron.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/24/13, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Have you used spotlight to search for Mavericks? If it isn't in your
 /Applications folder the app store will allow you to download it.
 
 Press cmd + space and type Mavericks.
 
 HTH
 
 Gena
 On 24 Oct 2013, at 00:15, Cameron Strife 
 wrote:
 
> Hi. Nope, there is nothing related to Mavericks in my applications
> folder.
> 
> Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/23/13, Angelo  wrote:
>> try looking in the apps folder, use a muse click to click ok after 
>> you
>> put
>> in your password
>> Angelo
>> a.rock...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Cameron Strife
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. trying to download OSX mavericks under OSX 10.6.8 and am having
>>> no
>>> luck. The first time I opened up the app store, I found mavericks,
>>> clicked install, signed in with my Apple ID, and then the download
>>> progress message came up for quite a while. When it finished, I hit
>>> the OK button.
>>> 
>>> now, for some reason, I can't find the .dmg file. It's not in
>>> downloads, not on the desktop etc. When I go back in to the app 
>>> store
>>> and hit the download button again, nothing happens. I restarted the
>>> machine and tried again, but, again, it does no

Re: Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Traci Duncan
Hello, which app are you using for Pandora?

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Hi Traci,
> 
> There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to Voiceover. 
>  When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or thumbs is to 
> put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the mouse over to the 
> right until clicking would remove what I was wanting.  It takes some trial 
> and error.
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want 
> to go in and delete some of my station seeds.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Kawal
I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody else 
needs them, let me know. 

Regards, 
Gigi 
On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and 
> could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I 
> work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the 
> Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book 
> which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille 
> next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 
> 
> So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
> someone send it to me please?
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Re: Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi,

I’m talking about the web player.  I wasn’t aware that there was anything else 
for the Mac.  It’s been a few months sense I’ve used it.

On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hello, which app are you using for Pandora?

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Hi Traci,
> 
> There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to Voiceover. 
>  When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or thumbs is to 
> put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the mouse over to the 
> right until clicking would remove what I was wanting.  It takes some trial 
> and error.
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want 
> to go in and delete some of my station seeds.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Daniela Rubio
Hello!
How do youc reate a shortcut to save attachments? Thank you!

Daniela Rubio T
 Distinguished Educator
iPhone: +34662328507



El 25/10/2013, a las 15:36, Alex Hall  escribió:

> Hi all,
> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
> exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
> fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
> fact.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Offline dictation available in Mavericks

2013-10-25 Thread Edward Green
Hi Juergen,

Yep sure.  It’s on the Dictation tab of Speech and Dictation in System 
Preferences.  You need to click on the Enhanced Dictation check box and you 
should be good to go.

Cheers,

Ed
On 25 Oct 2013, at 18:43, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Hi,
> could you send a link or could you explain how to do this?
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 25.10.2013 um 18:20 schrieb Edward Green :
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I’ve just stumbled across the ability to be able to dictate offline using 
>> Mavericks, as long as you’re prepared to spare 500MB of disc space.  Under 
>> Mountain Lion as with iOS, you needed an Internet connection and it was done 
>> over Apple’s servers.
>> 
>> Apologies if this has already been posted to the list, but I haven’t seen it 
>> and thought it may be of interest.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Ed
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A Volume Question

2013-10-25 Thread Angus MacKinnon
Using Mountain Lion (10.85) I have VO set to my Logitech H600. Is it possible 
to get the main volume and the Logitech H600 volume seperate? If so, How? Thank 
you.

Angus MacKinnon
Written on a 27 inch IMac
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Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

2013-10-25 Thread Daniel Miller
Hello,

Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker to 
make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, which 
is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked wonderfully with 
VoiceOver.
Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.

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RE: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

2013-10-25 Thread Jamie Pauls
Cool. Thanks.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Bishop
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:27 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

There are a few:

iCloud
outlook.com (they now support imap and you can even bring your domain)
office365 ($4 per month but a huge deal if you want to pay for email)


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail Issues in Mavericks, Pretty Major, Folks

What are some Gmail replacements the list might recommend? What about using
iCloud mail or Hotmail? Would be interested in some fairly quick and dirty
workarounds.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:19 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, guess I'm lucky. I'm not having any problems with gmail and
mavericks, but this is definitely an email I'll keep in case something
changes and I need this at a future date.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:53 AM, Nicholas Parsons
 wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Teresa, it's great that you're pointing that out for folks. 
>> Some
of it isn't quite 100% accurate, however. From what I've read, for instance,
All Mail doesn't get placed in your Archive folder exactly. In fact, Mail
kind of gets rid of folders all together for gmail. Instead, just like gmail
on the web, there is only one folder per se, and that is All Mail. Messages
get given labels like inbox or whatever other personal labels you have,
which act much like folders only different. Rather than me trying to
explain, interested people are better off reading the following article:
>> http://tidbits.com/article/14219
>> 
>> Best,
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> On 25/10/2013, at 3:43 AM, Teresa Cochran 
>> 
wrote:
>> 
>> Someone brought up Gmail issues yesterday. There are definite snafus 
>> with
Gmail and Mail. basically, the "all mail" folder gets placed in the archive
folder, and it's necessary to have it enabled in Gmail settings on the
website. Depending on how much you use Gmail, this may or may not be a
show-stopper. If you switch to Pop mail, you can no longer use your labels
from the Gmail site, and you'd have to set up local rules for filtering
messages in apple Mail. Also, you can't move Gmail folders in apple mail.
>> 
>> Since I use Gmail for about 20 mailing lists I'm on, and I sync my 
>> mail
with my iPod, I'm going to try not to ditch Gmail for now. Whatever you do,
do *not* go into the "all mail" folder on your devices if you sync with
them, because a huge bog-down will possibly ensue. For example, I have
something like twenty thousand messages in my 'all mail" folder.
>> 
>> you can find stuff about this issue when you, uh, google it, so just
thought I'd clarify things just a tad. I hope it's clarified, at any rate.
:)
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thank you very much. How can I view them in the Mac? Or I will have to send 
them to my work address.

Sent from my I phone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 08:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal
> I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody 
> else needs them, let me know. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and 
>> could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I 
>> work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the 
>> Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book 
>> which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille 
>> next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 
>> 
>> So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
>> someone send it to me please?
>> 
>> Thank you very much.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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RE: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Jamie Pauls
Hi, Gigi,

 

I would appreciate those files as well. Thanks and have a great day..

 

Jamie Pauls

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unified Braille.

 

Hi Kawal

I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody
else needs them, let me know. 

 

Regards, 

Gigi 

On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:





Hello.

 

I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and
could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I
work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the
Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book
which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille
next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 

 

So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can
someone send it to me please?

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kawal.

Sent from my I phone

 

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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Alex Hall
Go to applevis.com and look for “shortcuts”, my guide should be in the results. 
In short, copy the *exact* text of the menu item to which you want the shortcut 
to be tied (use VO’s copy last phrase feature). Open System Preferences, go to 
Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab, select “applications” in the table, and then 
add a new shortcut. Select Mail from the apps popup button, paste your text and 
type your desired shortcut in the proper fields, and there you go. This works 
for any menu item in any application.
On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Hello!
> How do youc reate a shortcut to save attachments? Thank you!
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
>  Distinguished Educator
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> El 25/10/2013, a las 15:36, Alex Hall  escribió:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. What 
>> exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save just 
>> fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still works, in 
>> fact.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
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major bug with respect to blue tooth keyboard pairing and Voice Over

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
There is a major break in the accessibility of pairing blue tooth keyboards and 
voice over with 10.9.  When the “pair” button is pressed, and the pairing 
dialog pops up and asks for the special password to be entered on the keyboard, 
Voice Over does not read out the actual password asked for by the dialog.  
Instead, Voice Over seems to display the numbers 
12345678
no matter what the actual password is.  The screen does show the asked for 
password, but, Voice Over always reads out 
12345678
and thus the pairing can never be completed.  I know the screen shows the 
correct password because I had to get a sighted neighbor to read it out to me.  
This is not in accord with Apple’s usually high standard of accessibility.
PLEASE, correct this as soon as possible!


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built-in!

sincerely,
Ray, from Houma Louisiana

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Re: Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Barry Hadder
Traci,

It has occurred to me that I might should have gone in to a little more detail. 
I’m assuming you are using the web player.

Click options then station details.  I’m assuming that at this point what I 
described earlier is still true.  It looks the same to me anyway.  I also 
noticed after checking it out jest now, that it isn’t in the profile section as 
it use to be.
Hope that helps.

On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:

Hello, which app are you using for Pandora?

On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Hi Traci,
> 
> There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to Voiceover. 
>  When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or thumbs is to 
> put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the mouse over to the 
> right until clicking would remove what I was wanting.  It takes some trial 
> and error.
> 
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want 
> to go in and delete some of my station seeds.
> 
> Thank you,
> Traci
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Ray Foret Jr
When you say “type your desired short cut” do you mean to actually press the 
keys or use their names?  For instance, If I wanted to use the command key, 
would I actually press the physical command key, or would I type “command” or 
“CMD”?  And, capitalize or not?


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Go to applevis.com and look for “shortcuts”, my guide should be in the 
> results. In short, copy the *exact* text of the menu item to which you want 
> the shortcut to be tied (use VO’s copy last phrase feature). Open System 
> Preferences, go to Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab, select “applications” in 
> the table, and then add a new shortcut. Select Mail from the apps popup 
> button, paste your text and type your desired shortcut in the proper fields, 
> and there you go. This works for any menu item in any application.
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> How do youc reate a shortcut to save attachments? Thank you!
>> 
>> Daniela Rubio T
>>  Distinguished Educator
>> iPhone: +34662328507
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El 25/10/2013, a las 15:36, Alex Hall  escribió:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. 
>>> What exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to save 
>>> just fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this still 
>>> works, in fact.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: saving mail attachments in OS10.9

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Ray,

You actually press the modifier key or keys you want to use.  

hth

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On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> When you say “type your desired short cut” do you mean to actually press the 
> keys or use their names?  For instance, If I wanted to use the command key, 
> would I actually press the physical command key, or would I type “command” or 
> “CMD”?  And, capitalize or not?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Go to applevis.com and look for “shortcuts”, my guide should be in the 
>> results. In short, copy the *exact* text of the menu item to which you want 
>> the shortcut to be tied (use VO’s copy last phrase feature). Open System 
>> Preferences, go to Keyboard, then the Shortcuts tab, select “applications” 
>> in the table, and then add a new shortcut. Select Mail from the apps popup 
>> button, paste your text and type your desired shortcut in the proper fields, 
>> and there you go. This works for any menu item in any application.
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello!
>>> How do youc reate a shortcut to save attachments? Thank you!
>>> 
>>> Daniela Rubio T
>>>  Distinguished Educator
>>> iPhone: +34662328507
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> El 25/10/2013, a las 15:36, Alex Hall  escribió:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I read on this list that people are having problems saving attachments. 
 What exactly is the problem so I can try to reproduce it? I am able to 
 save just fine, with file > save attachments. My shortcut key for this 
 still works, in fact.
 
 
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Re: A Volume Question

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

If you wish to lower Voiceover volume independently of your system volume, You 
can do this by pressing VO command left or right arrow until you get to volume, 
and press VO command up or down arrow to adjust the volume.

hth

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> Using Mountain Lion (10.85) I have VO set to my Logitech H600. Is it possible 
> to get the main volume and the Logitech H600 volume seperate? If so, How? 
> Thank you.
> 
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> Written on a 27 inch IMac
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Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

2013-10-25 Thread Rachel Feinberg
If you're meaning Lion Diskmaker, beta 3 is out, which let me go through the 
process, until it wished to erase my disk. Then it said the operation couldn't 
be completed. I tried several times. So, I tried beta 2 as that was what the 
read me that came with the program indicated with a link, and that seems to 
have completed the install disk.
As a disclaimer: I have not clean installed yet. This list has been a very good 
resource for the pitfalls and victories Mavericks has been in the first few 
days since release. So I think, as others have verbalized, I may wait until the 
first major update to see if some of these bugs have been fixed.
however, I will paste the web address for lion diskmaker beta 3, and you're 
welcome to try it.
http://liondiskmaker.com/?p=189
Rachel 
On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker to 
> make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, which 
> is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked wonderfully with 
> VoiceOver.
> Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.
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Command-Shift-arrows not Working For Me in iBooks

2013-10-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all,

The shortcut key to switch chapters in iBooks doesn’t seem to be working for me 
at all. It just highlights a line of text, which is its usual function in text 
areas. Has anyone else experienced this? I kind of really don’t want to bring 
up the Table of Contents and the item chooser just to switch chapters. :)

Thanks,
teresa

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Re: Command-Shift-arrows not Working For Me in iBooks

2013-10-25 Thread Barry Hadder
Hi,

I’ve noticed that I have to move keyboard focus away from the scroll area 
before it works.  Also, If the book chapters have several sections, I think it 
might be treating those as chapters, but I’m not sure.

I’ve found the keyboard focus following vo to be a problem in iBooks, so I have 
an activity set where it is turned off.
Hope that helps.

On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Hi, all,

The shortcut key to switch chapters in iBooks doesn’t seem to be working for me 
at all. It just highlights a line of text, which is its usual function in text 
areas. Has anyone else experienced this? I kind of really don’t want to bring 
up the Table of Contents and the item chooser just to switch chapters. :)

Thanks,
teresa

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Re: a showstopper in the latest safari update

2013-10-25 Thread matthew dyer
Hi Eric,

I am using gmail with mail in maverecs and I am having no problems.  Yes it 
takes time to sync messages with mail, but it is fine here.  Just throughing 
that out there for what it is worth.


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On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:12 PM, eric oyen  wrote:

> I may have to try mavericks to see what its like. from what I hear though, 
> the email subsystem might cause me problems with gmail.
> 
> anyway, I will DL it and see what I can see.
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Unfortunately, Eric can't upgrade to ML, but I think he can to Mavericks. 
>> Didn't Tim cook say that its possible even on Snow leopard?
>> 
>> Matt Dierckens
>> matt.dierck...@gmail.com
>> Assistive Technology Trainer
>> IOS and Macintosh User support
>> Windsor area
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-10-24, at 11:24 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> 
>>> A lot of the busy issues were fixed in mountain lion, you may want to 
>>> update your operating system.
>>> Original message:
 The new Safari 6.1 went on my Lion system today and now some voiceover 
 issues have developed.
>>> 
 1. Web Item rotor no longer shows all headers on a google search, or on 
 some other pages.
 2. on any web page where there is a tweet text field, any attempt to enter 
 text there results in the browser going busy and forcing a force-quit.
>>> 
 also, when scrolling through google searches, the website info on each 
 search gets repeated at each new element (be it text, links or headers).
>>> 
 there is also inconsistent behavior when trying to open links using the 
 VO+shift+M context menu. SOme options that should show up (like open link 
 in new tab or page) don't more than half the time.
>>> 
 Since I am totally blind and have to depend on both voiceover and Safari 
 to work properly, when they don't, I am basically left trying to get both 
 to work again. In one case, installing an add-on to solve captchas 
 resulted in voiceover completely crashing and then refusing to restart on 
 CMD-F5.
>>> 
 THese issues are entirely unacceptable and are required to be fixed 
 immediately.
>>> 
 As an aside, similar issues crop up with google-chrome with the same 
 frequency. Don't even ask about FireFox (it works barely some of the time).
>>> 
 You folks need to repair this. I am also copying this to 2 related mailing 
 lists.
>>> 
 Please take care of this, POST HASTE!
>>> 
 -eric
>>> 
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Re: Discmaker X for creating OS X bootable drives.

2013-10-25 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi Rachel, I did try Beta three as well as the official 3.0 release, which is 
now named disc may correct. It's the same program, just a different name. I'm 
having trouble with voiceover not seeing any contents of the window at all.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
> 
> If you're meaning Lion Diskmaker, beta 3 is out, which let me go through the 
> process, until it wished to erase my disk. Then it said the operation 
> couldn't be completed. I tried several times. So, I tried beta 2 as that was 
> what the read me that came with the program indicated with a link, and that 
> seems to have completed the install disk.
> As a disclaimer: I have not clean installed yet. This list has been a very 
> good resource for the pitfalls and victories Mavericks has been in the first 
> few days since release. So I think, as others have verbalized, I may wait 
> until the first major update to see if some of these bugs have been fixed.
> however, I will paste the web address for lion diskmaker beta 3, and you're 
> welcome to try it.
> http://liondiskmaker.com/?p=189
> Rachel 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Has anyone used the new version of Discmaker X, formerly Lion Disc Maker to 
>> make a bootable install drive of 10.9? I’m having extreme difficulties, 
>> which is a shame because the previous versions of this app worked 
>> wonderfully with VoiceOver.
>> Any help would be appreciated. The app reads nothing with VO, whatsoever.
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Re: Command-Shift-arrows not Working For Me in iBooks

2013-10-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks, Barry. I’m trying this now. I hope it changes navigation in the table 
of contents as well.

Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

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> Hi,
> 
> I’ve noticed that I have to move keyboard focus away from the scroll area 
> before it works.  Also, If the book chapters have several sections, I think 
> it might be treating those as chapters, but I’m not sure.
> 
> I’ve found the keyboard focus following vo to be a problem in iBooks, so I 
> have an activity set where it is turned off.
> Hope that helps.
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> The shortcut key to switch chapters in iBooks doesn’t seem to be working for 
> me at all. It just highlights a line of text, which is its usual function in 
> text areas. Has anyone else experienced this? I kind of really don’t want to 
> bring up the Table of Contents and the item chooser just to switch chapters. 
> :)
> 
> Thanks,
> teresa
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Re: Command-Shift-arrows not Working For Me in iBooks

2013-10-25 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Yes.  Command shift right arrow is pretty inconsistant for me .  I usually 
stick to going to next chapter via the Go To menu.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Thanks, Barry. I’m trying this now. I hope it changes navigation in the table 
> of contents as well.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’ve noticed that I have to move keyboard focus away from the scroll area 
>> before it works.  Also, If the book chapters have several sections, I think 
>> it might be treating those as chapters, but I’m not sure.
>> 
>> I’ve found the keyboard focus following vo to be a problem in iBooks, so I 
>> have an activity set where it is turned off.
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> The shortcut key to switch chapters in iBooks doesn’t seem to be working for 
>> me at all. It just highlights a line of text, which is its usual function in 
>> text areas. Has anyone else experienced this? I kind of really don’t want to 
>> bring up the Table of Contents and the item chooser just to switch chapters. 
>> :)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> teresa
>> 
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>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Estelita
Hi Gigi,
That's sounds interesting, can you send me the files as well please?

Thank you,

Estelita



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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Unified Braille.


  Hi Kawal
  I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody 
else needs them, let me know. 


  Regards, 
  Gigi 

  On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:


Hello.


I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and 
could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I work 
in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the Blind in 
the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book which I don't 
have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille next year as all 
transcription will be going UEB. 


So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
someone send it to me please?


Thank you very much.


Kawal.


Sent from my I phone


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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread eric oyen
I wouldn't mind a copy of that myself. 

-eric

On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Estelita wrote:

> Hi Gigi,
> That's sounds interesting, can you send me the files as well please?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Estelita
> 
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Eugenia Firth 
>  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:18 PM
>  Subject: Re: Unified Braille.
> 
> 
>  Hi Kawal
>  I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody 
> else needs them, let me know. 
> 
> 
>  Regards, 
>  Gigi 
> 
>  On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> 
>Hello.
> 
> 
>I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone 
> and could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as 
> I work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the 
> Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book 
> which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille 
> next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 
> 
> 
>So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
> someone send it to me please?
> 
> 
>Thank you very much.
> 
> 
>Kawal.
> 
> 
>Sent from my I phone
> 
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Re: Pandora, edit station details

2013-10-25 Thread Traci Duncan
Hmmm, I’ll have to have another look at that.  I’ve never had any luck with the 
web player.  I thought it was all flash?

Traci

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> Hi,
> 
> I’m talking about the web player.  I wasn’t aware that there was anything 
> else for the Mac.  It’s been a few months sense I’ve used it.
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello, which app are you using for Pandora?
> 
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Traci,
>> 
>> There is a button to the right of the heading that it invisible to 
>> Voiceover.  When I used Pandora, the only way I found to delete seeds or 
>> thumbs is to put vo on the heading, route the mouse to it, then move the 
>> mouse over to the right until clicking would remove what I was wanting.  It 
>> takes some trial and error.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a way to edit their Pandora stations on the Mac?  I want 
>> to go in and delete some of my station seeds.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Traci
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os 10.9, is it worth it?

2013-10-25 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
I know that os 10.9 mavericks is free, but is it worth the trouble of updating? 
Or is it still not there yet?
Thanks,
Courtney


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Downcast Synching

2013-10-25 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey guys,

Hopefully this will get read in between all the Mavericks emails. I am trying 
to sync downcast on multiple devices. I just got a 64gig iPhone and have been 
changing my podcasts to download only problem is when I do so they change to 
download on my old iPhone 4S where I want them to still stream only. Is there a 
way to do this? Not sure what I am doing wrong as I have settings turned off 
under iCloud sync I would like my podcasts episodes and playlists to all sync, 
but not the settings for individual podcasts should I be turning off podcast 
synching also? Thanks,

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RE: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Jeff Bishop
Yes, can you send them to me also please?

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jamie Pauls
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Unified Braille.

 

Hi, Gigi,

 

I would appreciate those files as well. Thanks and have a great day..

 

Jamie Pauls

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugenia Firth
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:18 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Unified Braille.

 

Hi Kawal

I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody
else needs them, let me know. 

 

Regards, 

Gigi 

On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

 

Hello.

 

I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and
could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I
work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the
Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book
which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille
next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 

 

So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can
someone send it to me please?

 

Thank you very much.

 

Kawal.

Sent from my I phone

 

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RE: Twitterrific for mac

2013-10-25 Thread Jeff Bishop
It is not currently.

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Subject says most of it. Is it accessible like Twitterrific for iOS?
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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Eugenia Firth
Since they are brf files, if you want to read them in your Mac, first load into 
TextEdit. You have to have a braille display. Then, and you may want to make a 
copy before you do this, select all the text and do a transformation by going 
to EDIT, and going down arrow until you find TRANSFORMATION. Choose to make all 
the text to be lower case. That will take out all the dots 7 and 8. Then if you 
have a braille display, you should be able to read the file in TextEdit. 

I forgot to warn you, however, that this file is written in American grade 2 
braille. I don't know if that's a problem for you or not. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Thank you very much. How can I view them in the Mac? Or I will have to send 
> them to my work address.
> 
> Sent from my I phone
> 
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 08:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal
>> I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody 
>> else needs them, let me know. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone and 
>>> could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, as I 
>>> work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute of the 
>>> Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her print book 
>>> which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing this Braille 
>>> next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 
>>> 
>>> So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
>>> someone send it to me please?
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my I phone
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Re: Unified Braille.

2013-10-25 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I love American Braille. So that's not a problem. Thank you for the 
instructioms. Kawal.

Sent from my I phone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 11:22 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
> Since they are brf files, if you want to read them in your Mac, first load 
> into TextEdit. You have to have a braille display. Then, and you may want to 
> make a copy before you do this, select all the text and do a transformation 
> by going to EDIT, and going down arrow until you find TRANSFORMATION. Choose 
> to make all the text to be lower case. That will take out all the dots 7 and 
> 8. Then if you have a braille display, you should be able to read the file in 
> TextEdit. 
> 
> I forgot to warn you, however, that this file is written in American grade 2 
> braille. I don't know if that's a problem for you or not. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you very much. How can I view them in the Mac? Or I will have to send 
>> them to my work address.
>> 
>> Sent from my I phone
>> 
>>> On 25 Oct 2013, at 08:18 pm, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kawal
>>> I just sent you three brf files that I think are what you want. If anybody 
>>> else needs them, let me know. 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi 
 On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 I was writing in unified Braille using my braille display on my I phone 
 and could not find how to use the at sign or underscore.  Happily for me, 
 as I work in the transcription department at the Royal National Institute 
 of the Blind in the UK, I asked one of my colleagues to find it in her 
 print book which I don't have yet electronically until I start producing 
 this Braille next year as all transcription will be going UEB. 
 
 So my question is, does anyone have the unified Braille code and if so can 
 someone send it to me please?
 
 Thank you very much.
 
 Kawal.
 
 Sent from my I phone
 
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