Re: Installing Flashplayer

2013-04-27 Thread Rahul Bajaj
Hi all,

I'll tell you how I tried  to install it and please do tell me what  I
did  incorrectly.
1. I opened the Adobe Flashplayer.DMG file from the download folder.
2. I opened the application.
3. I was asked to enter  my  username and password, and I entered it
as per the instructions.
4. I got a window with a progress indicator which basically indicates
the progress of the installation.
5. After the progress indicator showed 100%, I got a message stating
that the installation had been  completed and then I pressed the
finish button after which that window completely  disappeared.
I tried pressing tab in the window with the progress indicator but
nothing happened.
So, what did I do incorrectly?





On 27/04/2013, Nicholas Parsons  wrote:
> Yes, I have always ben able to update Adobe FlashPlayer normally. You open
> the disk image, open the app, then, as Teresa said, you navigate with tab
> and press space bar to activate the relevant buttons. If you navigate with
> VoiceOver you just here "image", and are not able to see the buttons. But,
> if you tab, you'll here the buttons and be able to activate them by just
> pressing space bar. VO-Space will not work. If you press VO-F4 you will here
> that keyboard curser is not focused on the same thing as VO curser. Pressing
> space bar activates what is in the keyboard curser.
>
> On 27/04/2013, at 1:44 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>
> How do you update it? Sometimes, a dialog pops up asking me to update it,
> and nothing I try seems to initiate the process.
>
>
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> Fielding
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>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Teresa Cochran 
> wrote:
>
>> Also, use tab and spacebar when navigating the install window. VO-arrows
>> will not work right. You can also use the trackpad or mouse keys.
>>
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the last couple of times I was able to install directly from
>>> the downloaded app without first going into the bundle.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>>>
 Hello everyone,

 I've been trying  to install Flashplayer for the last few days
 without any success.
 I went through the archives and found a post in which someone said
 that one can install it by opening the downloaded file and selecting
 "resources" by clicking on the'show package contents' option.
 According to that post, after selecting "resources", one  gets a list
 of options from which one has to select 1 particular option which will
 open an accessible version of the installer.
 However, I only get the following options after selecting the
 "resources" option: app.bundle, app.ICNS and en.lproj.
 What should I do to make the FP  installer work?

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We won!!!!! Voc Rehab is buying my student a MacBook Air

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the VR powers 
that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes frustrating 
conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my student.  She and I were 
both thrilled.  thanks again to all who gave input.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: USB Headset

2013-04-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Yes.

Very easily.  In Voiceover utilities, in the sound category, select voiceover 
output to come through the USB headset.

hthr

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On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Now, for my next question. Could set it up so Skype comes out of the speaker, 
> and VO comes through the hed set? I know this is rather far fetched, but a 
> friend of mine who is not on this list wants to know.
> 
> 
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> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Sure.  Plug in the headset, and if there is no specific set up process need 
>> by the model headset you purchase, you go into system preferences/sounds and 
>> set the input and output to the headset.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
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>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all:
>>> Can the Mac work with a USB headset, and if so, how does one set this up?
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Addictive drums on garageband and questions.

2013-04-27 Thread KJSC radio
Hi all. I just got addictive drums on garageband. HOw ever, I have a couple of 
questions for thoughs who have gotten it to work. does anyone know how to 
change the presets on the drums? and one more thing, does anyone know how to 
create such presets should you want to make your own? Could this be done with 
out sited help? thanks all.

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switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: Facebook Chat — Working Again

2013-04-27 Thread Brandon Olivares
It started working for my wife last night. It still didn't work for me, so I 
did some needed updates on my computer, and once it started up again, 
everything was back to normal.

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VoiceOver and flash

2013-04-27 Thread Christian
Hi all,
Now, with Mountain Lion, does anyone know if we can interact with flash content 
on webpages now?
Many thanks,
Christian

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VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Christian
Hi all,
Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
Many thanks,
Christian

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Re[2]: Mountain Lion and music software

2013-04-27 Thread Christian
Hi,
Sounds good, how much can we use it?
For example, can we edit the music, like individual note events, etc?
Many thanks,
Christian


On 2013-04-26 at 17:29 Kjsc Radio wrote:

>Hi, there is GarageBand for mac and its accessible with VO
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>On 25/04/2013, at 12:42 PM, "Christian"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Haven't been on this list for some time, so I don't know how things have
>progressed, but, is there now any musical software that is accessible with
>VoiceOver?
>> Like MIDI sequencing software.
>> Many thanks for any info,
>> Christian
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Devin Prater
U might b able to define one

Sent from my iPod

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> Hi all,
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> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
> Thanks,
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Apple Airport Extreme VS. Airport express

2013-04-27 Thread Richard Ring
Hello:
As the subject line implies, I'm considering strongly purchasing one of these 
devices. After reviewing the specs of both devices, I cannot see that there is 
a major difference between these 2 units regarding overall network 
functionality. Obviously, the Extreme costs quite a bit more than the Express, 
but can anyone tell me what the Extreme can do that the Express can't? The only 
major difference I can see is, that you can connect an external disk directly 
to the Extreme via a USB port.
Is there anything else I'm overlooking here?
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the list 
of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was surprised.
Best,
Donna

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On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> U might b able to define one
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Devin Prater
Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application menu or 
whatever vo calls vo+f2
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On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the 
> list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was 
> surprised.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> U might b able to define one
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: Installing Flashplayer

2013-04-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I don't believe that you did anything wrong.  It sounds like it installed 
properly from what you've stated.

Later...

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On 2013-04-27, at 4:11 AM, Rahul Bajaj  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'll tell you how I tried  to install it and please do tell me what  I
> did  incorrectly.
> 1. I opened the Adobe Flashplayer.DMG file from the download folder.
> 2. I opened the application.
> 3. I was asked to enter  my  username and password, and I entered it
> as per the instructions.
> 4. I got a window with a progress indicator which basically indicates
> the progress of the installation.
> 5. After the progress indicator showed 100%, I got a message stating
> that the installation had been  completed and then I pressed the
> finish button after which that window completely  disappeared.
> I tried pressing tab in the window with the progress indicator but
> nothing happened.
> So, what did I do incorrectly?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/04/2013, Nicholas Parsons  wrote:
>> Yes, I have always ben able to update Adobe FlashPlayer normally. You open
>> the disk image, open the app, then, as Teresa said, you navigate with tab
>> and press space bar to activate the relevant buttons. If you navigate with
>> VoiceOver you just here "image", and are not able to see the buttons. But,
>> if you tab, you'll here the buttons and be able to activate them by just
>> pressing space bar. VO-Space will not work. If you press VO-F4 you will here
>> that keyboard curser is not focused on the same thing as VO curser. Pressing
>> space bar activates what is in the keyboard curser.
>> 
>> On 27/04/2013, at 1:44 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you update it? Sometimes, a dialog pops up asking me to update it,
>> and nothing I try seems to initiate the process.
>> 
>> 
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
>> Fielding
>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> 
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Teresa Cochran 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Also, use tab and spacebar when navigating the install window. VO-arrows
>>> will not work right. You can also use the trackpad or mouse keys.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 8:25 AM, "Jonathan C. Cohn"  wrote:
>>> 
 I believe the last couple of times I was able to install directly from
 the downloaded app without first going into the bundle.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> I've been trying  to install Flashplayer for the last few days
> without any success.
> I went through the archives and found a post in which someone said
> that one can install it by opening the downloaded file and selecting
> "resources" by clicking on the'show package contents' option.
> According to that post, after selecting "resources", one  gets a list
> of options from which one has to select 1 particular option which will
> open an accessible version of the installer.
> However, I only get the following options after selecting the
> "resources" option: app.bundle, app.ICNS and en.lproj.
> What should I do to make the FP  installer work?
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme VS. Airport express

2013-04-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

The Extreme has a more powerful processor in it so it can better handle the big 
demands for bandwidth.  For normal household use though, this may not be a 
factor.  The Extreme also has more ethernet ports for more wired connectivity.  
If you like streaming music from your computer to a stereo or home theatre, 
then this is more easily handled through the Express.  The benefits of 
streaming music are only realized though if you can place the Express close to 
your stereo or Home Theatre.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On 2013-04-27, at 9:37 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> Hello:
> As the subject line implies, I'm considering strongly purchasing one of these 
> devices. After reviewing the specs of both devices, I cannot see that there 
> is a major difference between these 2 units regarding overall network 
> functionality. Obviously, the Extreme costs quite a bit more than the 
> Express, but can anyone tell me what the Extreme can do that the Express 
> can't? The only major difference I can see is, that you can connect an 
> external disk directly to the Extreme via a USB port.
> Is there anything else I'm overlooking here?
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: Safari and Amazon Video

2013-04-27 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
You vo space on start video heading. It's not really a heading. How can I watch 
it on my phone or iPad? I can't find the amazon app.
On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> Wow.  I can't even work out how to start the video.
> 
> They really need to do something about their layout in that respect.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I purchased an Amazon video that I can Stream. I can start the video, but 
>> cannot figure how to make it full screen, nor find the controls to play stop 
>> fast forward,etc.
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Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Chris H

How about Garage Band.


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Hi all,
Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
Many thanks,
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Re: Apple Airport Extreme VS. Airport express

2013-04-27 Thread Richard Ring
Thanks, Tim! As always you have cleared it up for me!


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On Apr 27, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The Extreme has a more powerful processor in it so it can better handle the 
> big demands for bandwidth.  For normal household use though, this may not be 
> a factor.  The Extreme also has more ethernet ports for more wired 
> connectivity.  If you like streaming music from your computer to a stereo or 
> home theatre, then this is more easily handled through the Express.  The 
> benefits of streaming music are only realized though if you can place the 
> Express close to your stereo or Home Theatre.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-04-27, at 9:37 AM, Richard Ring  wrote:
> 
>> Hello:
>> As the subject line implies, I'm considering strongly purchasing one of 
>> these devices. After reviewing the specs of both devices, I cannot see that 
>> there is a major difference between these 2 units regarding overall network 
>> functionality. Obviously, the Extreme costs quite a bit more than the 
>> Express, but can anyone tell me what the Extreme can do that the Express 
>> can't? The only major difference I can see is, that you can connect an 
>> external disk directly to the Extreme via a USB port.
>> Is there anything else I'm overlooking here?
>> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
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>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

2013-04-27 Thread Mike Busboom
Dear Esther,

Thank you so much for your recommendation and detailed thoughts on Voice Dream 
Reader.  I downloaded the app, purchased some voices and enjoy the high quality 
of speech that the app offers.

I will contact the developer because I am interested in using the app's 
dictionary feature, something that I have had no success with thus far.

I would have written to you sooner, but I wanted to give Voice Dream Reader a 
lot of listening before commenting on it.  It was indeed well worth the money, 
and you can't beat the price for each additional voice you purchase.

Thanks again for the recommendation and kindest regards,

Mike

On 9,Apr,2013, at 9:12 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Mike,
> 
> Have you looked into using the Voice Dream Reader app?  This app does not 
> have the same level of navigation options that the Read2Go app has, so you'll 
> probably still want to do most of your Bookshare reading with Read2Go.  
> However, Voice Dream Reader has some features that I believe you would want: 
> first, it allows you to read Bookshare books with German voices, while 
> Read2Go only supports reading in English with the Heather voice.  Voice Dream 
> Reader comes with the Heather voice, but people who want to read in other 
> languages can purchase any of the Infovox/iVox voices that are available on 
> the Mac, plus the Acapela Group's Mandarin Chinese and Japanese voices, for 
> $1.99 each via in-app purchase.  You can also buy the Paul, Kate, or Julie 
> U.S. English NeoSpeech voices, or the Bridget British English NeoSpeech voice 
> for $2.99 each.  Secondly, if you have Daisy books, or other documents or 
> DRM-free eBooks, that are not from Bookshare, it's much easier to get them 
> into the app via alternatives such as Dropbox, in addition to iTunes file 
> sharing. Voice Dream supports direct downloads of Bookshare books into the 
> app, but it also lets you transfer documents and non-DRM eBooks into the app 
> through many other methods, including the option to "Open in" the Voice Dream 
> Reader app from web links, etc.  Third, this app can be used to read many 
> types of document and eBook formats, and will remember the position, voice 
> settings for language and speaking rate, and bookmarks set for each of the 
> files. So you can use this to read TXT, RTF, Word or Pages documents, PDF, 
> ePub books (without DRM), etc.  You can find out how far into a book you are, 
> and navigate to a location by per cent, as well as by using bookmarks. Also, 
> you can organize your files within your own folders within the app, and you 
> can have Voice Dream Reader's TTS continue to read the files while your 
> device is locked.  Double clicking the home button from the lock screen gives 
> you access to the player controls to play/pause, or to access the next or 
> previous track.
> 
> I really like Voice Dream Reader for reading various sorts of text files in 
> multiple languages with the Acapela Group and NeoSpeech voices.  The 
> developer is very responsive, and is continuously adding features in response 
> to user requests and feedback.  For example, a pronunciation editor is in the 
> works.  There are even more features for low-vision and print-disabled users 
> in terms of available font sizes, highlighting, color themes.  Because this 
> is text-to-speech, it doesn't have the same level of navigation options that 
> you can get with Read2Go and with iBooks.  And this is also true currently 
> for attached Braille devices.  But if you want to listen to a wide range of 
> text formats in multiple languages with high-quality voices, even with the 
> screen locked, and have your place and voice settings remembered, Voice Dream 
> Reader is a great option.  It's integrated with Instapaper, which is another 
> app that I use.
> 
> The list price for the Voice Dream Reader app is $9.99, but there's a free, 
> lite version of the app that you can download  to test the app.  Also, the 
> developer, Winston Chen, logs into the AppleVis site, so you have the option 
> of posting questions either in their forums or in the comments for the app 
> entry.  Here's the App Store URL:
> • Voice Dream Reader - Text to Speech ($9.99) by Winston Chen
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/voice-dream-reader-text-to/id496177674
> • Voice Dream Reader Lite - Text to Speech (free) by Voice Dream LLC
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/voice-dream-reader-lite-text/id563971853?mt=8
> 
> Take a look at the app entry and the podcast at the AppleVis.com site:
> • The App description entry URL is: 
> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/education/voice-dream-reader-text-speech
> • The AppleVis podcast entry is: 
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/walk-through-voice-dream-text-speech
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 9 Apr 2013, at 00:45, Mike Busboom wrote:
> 
>> Hello Donna,
>> 
>> Although I use Braille sometimes, I frequently use speech by itself.  That 
>> is why I am looking for a way to read continuously, using th

Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Phil Halton

MIDI sequencing is not accessible in GarageBand.

- Original Message - 
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To: 
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing



How about Garage Band.


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On 27/04/2013 16:18, Christian wrote:

Hi all,
Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
Many thanks,
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Re: Continuous read with Read2Go app

2013-04-27 Thread Devin Prater
Wow, sounds like il b getting the app. I wish it could use e speak though 

Sent from my iPod

On Apr 27, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Dear Esther,
> 
> Thank you so much for your recommendation and detailed thoughts on Voice 
> Dream Reader.  I downloaded the app, purchased some voices and enjoy the high 
> quality of speech that the app offers.
> 
> I will contact the developer because I am interested in using the app's 
> dictionary feature, something that I have had no success with thus far.
> 
> I would have written to you sooner, but I wanted to give Voice Dream Reader a 
> lot of listening before commenting on it.  It was indeed well worth the 
> money, and you can't beat the price for each additional voice you purchase.
> 
> Thanks again for the recommendation and kindest regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 9,Apr,2013, at 9:12 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Mike,
>> 
>> Have you looked into using the Voice Dream Reader app?  This app does not 
>> have the same level of navigation options that the Read2Go app has, so 
>> you'll probably still want to do most of your Bookshare reading with 
>> Read2Go.  However, Voice Dream Reader has some features that I believe you 
>> would want: first, it allows you to read Bookshare books with German voices, 
>> while Read2Go only supports reading in English with the Heather voice.  
>> Voice Dream Reader comes with the Heather voice, but people who want to read 
>> in other languages can purchase any of the Infovox/iVox voices that are 
>> available on the Mac, plus the Acapela Group's Mandarin Chinese and Japanese 
>> voices, for $1.99 each via in-app purchase.  You can also buy the Paul, 
>> Kate, or Julie U.S. English NeoSpeech voices, or the Bridget British English 
>> NeoSpeech voice for $2.99 each.  Secondly, if you have Daisy books, or other 
>> documents or DRM-free eBooks, that are not from Bookshare, it's much easier 
>> to get them into the app via alternatives such as Dropbox, in addition to 
>> iTunes file sharing. Voice Dream supports direct downloads of Bookshare 
>> books into the app, but it also lets you transfer documents and non-DRM 
>> eBooks into the app through many other methods, including the option to 
>> "Open in" the Voice Dream Reader app from web links, etc.  Third, this app 
>> can be used to read many types of document and eBook formats, and will 
>> remember the position, voice settings for language and speaking rate, and 
>> bookmarks set for each of the files. So you can use this to read TXT, RTF, 
>> Word or Pages documents, PDF, ePub books (without DRM), etc.  You can find 
>> out how far into a book you are, and navigate to a location by per cent, as 
>> well as by using bookmarks. Also, you can organize your files within your 
>> own folders within the app, and you can have Voice Dream Reader's TTS 
>> continue to read the files while your device is locked.  Double clicking the 
>> home button from the lock screen gives you access to the player controls to 
>> play/pause, or to access the next or previous track.
>> 
>> I really like Voice Dream Reader for reading various sorts of text files in 
>> multiple languages with the Acapela Group and NeoSpeech voices.  The 
>> developer is very responsive, and is continuously adding features in 
>> response to user requests and feedback.  For example, a pronunciation editor 
>> is in the works.  There are even more features for low-vision and 
>> print-disabled users in terms of available font sizes, highlighting, color 
>> themes.  Because this is text-to-speech, it doesn't have the same level of 
>> navigation options that you can get with Read2Go and with iBooks.  And this 
>> is also true currently for attached Braille devices.  But if you want to 
>> listen to a wide range of text formats in multiple languages with 
>> high-quality voices, even with the screen locked, and have your place and 
>> voice settings remembered, Voice Dream Reader is a great option.  It's 
>> integrated with Instapaper, which is another app that I use.
>> 
>> The list price for the Voice Dream Reader app is $9.99, but there's a free, 
>> lite version of the app that you can download  to test the app.  Also, the 
>> developer, Winston Chen, logs into the AppleVis site, so you have the option 
>> of posting questions either in their forums or in the comments for the app 
>> entry.  Here's the App Store URL:
>> • Voice Dream Reader - Text to Speech ($9.99) by Winston Chen
>> https://itunes.apple.com/app/voice-dream-reader-text-to/id496177674
>> • Voice Dream Reader Lite - Text to Speech (free) by Voice Dream LLC
>> https://itunes.apple.com/app/voice-dream-reader-lite-text/id563971853?mt=8
>> 
>> Take a look at the app entry and the podcast at the AppleVis.com site:
>> • The App description entry URL is: 
>> http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/education/voice-dream-reader-text-speech
>> • The AppleVis podcast entry is: 
>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/walk-through-voice-dream-text-speech
>

printing a spreadsheet in numbers?

2013-04-27 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi all,  Aghch I've just wasted a lot of paper and toner trying various ways to 
get a spreadsheet to print and it's not working.  The thing just looks like 
crap 

I've  got three tables on one sheet.  What I need to do is size  each table so 
that it prints nicely on a standard 8.5 by 11.  Each table is only 14 rows and 
5 columns, so it should fit if I can just figure out how to resize them 
properly.  I can't find anything in the inspecter that looks like what I need.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: Facebook Chat — Working Again

2013-04-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
It's working for me again, too.

Teresa
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread erik burggraaf
Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application chooser 
VO f1.

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On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application menu or 
> whatever vo calls vo+f2
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the 
>> list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was 
>> surprised.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> U might b able to define one
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
 Thanks,
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Re: VoiceOver and flash

2013-04-27 Thread Mike Arrigo
Unfortunately no. Adobe refuses to make this accessible. Hopefully more and 
more sites will move away from flash and start using html 5 which should be 
more accessible.
On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:17 AM, "Christian"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> Now, with Mountain Lion, does anyone know if we can interact with flash 
> content on webpages now?
> Many thanks,
> Christian
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Erik and Devin,

Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  I 
use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a braille 
display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd command to 
leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and suggest that they 
incorporate it into a future release.

Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move between 
all Windows.
Cheers,
Donna
On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
> chooser VO f1.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application menu 
>> or whatever vo calls vo+f2
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>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the 
>>> list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was 
>>> surprised.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 U might b able to define one
 
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> Hi all,
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> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Devin Prater
Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I use 
cmd-tab all the time too.
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On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Erik and Devin,
> 
> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  I 
> use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a braille 
> display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd command to 
> leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and suggest that they 
> incorporate it into a future release.
> 
> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move between 
> all Windows.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
>> Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
>> chooser VO f1.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application menu 
>>> or whatever vo calls vo+f2
>>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the 
 list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was 
 surprised.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> U might b able to define one
> 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille display?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
Best,
Donna
On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:

> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
> use cmd-tab all the time too.
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
> Devin prater
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> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Erik and Devin,
>> 
>> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  I 
>> use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a braille 
>> display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd command to 
>> leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and suggest that they 
>> incorporate it into a future release.
>> 
>> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
>> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move between 
>> all Windows.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
>>> chooser VO f1.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application menu 
 or whatever vo calls vo+f2
 sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
 Devin prater
 email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
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 devinprater
 msn:
 devinpra...@live.com
 
 
 On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at the 
> list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I was 
> surprised.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> U might b able to define one
>> 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
>>> display?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Chris H

I'm sorry about that and thanks for letting me stand corrected.


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On 27/04/2013 18:12, Phil Halton wrote:

MIDI sequencing is not accessible in GarageBand.

- Original Message - From: "Chris H" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing



How about Garage Band.


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On 27/04/2013 16:18, Christian wrote:

Hi all,
Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
Many thanks,
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Re[2]: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Christian
Hi,
Many thanks for that info.
So well then I will have to use Sonar for that. I am considering buying a Mac 
mini and just wanted to know.
Many thanks,
Christian


On 2013-04-27 at 13:12 Phil Halton wrote:

>MIDI sequencing is not accessible in GarageBand.
>
>- Original Message - 
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>Subject: Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing
>
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>> How about Garage Band.
>>
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>> On 27/04/2013 16:18, Christian wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Christian
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Re[2]: VoiceOver and flash

2013-04-27 Thread Christian
Hi,
Many thanks for that info!
Christian


On 2013-04-27 at 14:09 Mike Arrigo wrote:

>Unfortunately no. Adobe refuses to make this accessible. Hopefully more
>and more sites will move away from flash and start using html 5 which
>should be more accessible.
>On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:17 AM, "Christian"  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> Now, with Mountain Lion, does anyone know if we can interact with flash
>content on webpages now?
>> Many thanks,
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Actually, I just go to the dock and then type the first few letters of the app 
I want. It's a few extra keystrokes, but I've gotten used to it.

Teresa
On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
>> use cmd-tab all the time too.
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik and Devin,
>>> 
>>> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  
>>> I use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a 
>>> braille display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd 
>>> command to leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and 
>>> suggest that they incorporate it into a future release.
>>> 
>>> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
>>> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move 
>>> between all Windows.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
 Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
 chooser VO f1.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application 
> menu or whatever vo calls vo+f2
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
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> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at 
>> the list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I 
>> was surprised.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> U might b able to define one
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
 display?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

2013-04-27 Thread Jamie Pauls
Greetings, all,

Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether it 
is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. I 
will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.

Thanks and take care.

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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, I suppose that's an option, too.  Thanks for the suggestion.  
Cheers,
Donna

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Actually, I just go to the dock and then type the first few letters of the app 
I want. It's a few extra keystrokes, but I've gotten used to it.

Teresa
On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
>> use cmd-tab all the time too.
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik and Devin,
>>> 
>>> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  
>>> I use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a 
>>> braille display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd 
>>> command to leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and 
>>> suggest that they incorporate it into a future release.
>>> 
>>> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
>>> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move 
>>> between all Windows.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
 Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
 chooser VO f1.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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 On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application 
> menu or whatever vo calls vo+f2
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
> Devin prater
> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> Skype:
> devinprater
> msn:
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> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at 
>> the list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I 
>> was surprised.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> U might b able to define one
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
 display?
 Thanks,
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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

2013-04-27 Thread John Panarese
   You can disable this behavior in System Preferences in the Security and 
Privacy pane by disabling the need for a password when the computer wakes from 
sleep.  However, this tends to be a user call based on your environment.  I use 
my computers at home, so I don't feel a PW is needed to wake the systems.  
However, if you are taking a laptop to work or school, it might be practical to 
leave it at the default behavior.

   Letting your computer go to sleep automatically is an entirely different 
debate.  I personally have it set so that I have to manually put my systems to 
sleep.  However, that is my choice.  Some feel it's better to let the computer 
go to sleep when not in use to save power and such.  I will manually put mine 
to sleep if I know I will be away from them for a time.


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On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

> Greetings, all,
> 
> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
> when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
> screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether 
> it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. 
> I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.
> 
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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

2013-04-27 Thread Jamie Pauls
That helps a lot. Thanks for the thorough explanation. One would think you were 
an AT trainer or something. :-)

Take care.

JP
On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:46 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>   You can disable this behavior in System Preferences in the Security and 
> Privacy pane by disabling the need for a password when the computer wakes 
> from sleep.  However, this tends to be a user call based on your environment. 
>  I use my computers at home, so I don't feel a PW is needed to wake the 
> systems.  However, if you are taking a laptop to work or school, it might be 
> practical to leave it at the default behavior.
> 
>   Letting your computer go to sleep automatically is an entirely different 
> debate.  I personally have it set so that I have to manually put my systems 
> to sleep.  However, that is my choice.  Some feel it's better to let the 
> computer go to sleep when not in use to save power and such.  I will manually 
> put mine to sleep if I know I will be away from them for a time.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings, all,
>> 
>> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
>> when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
>> screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether 
>> it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. 
>> I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.
>> 
>> Thanks and take care.
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Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing

2013-04-27 Thread Phil Halton
no need to be sorry, we all just pipe in with whatever knowledge we have - 
it ain't personal.


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Subject: Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing



I'm sorry about that and thanks for letting me stand corrected.


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On 27/04/2013 18:12, Phil Halton wrote:

MIDI sequencing is not accessible in GarageBand.

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Subject: Re: VoiceOver and MIDI sequencing



How about Garage Band.


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On 27/04/2013 16:18, Christian wrote:

Hi all,
Is there any accessible MIDI sequencer that one can use with VoiceOver?
Many thanks,
Christian



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Two more braille display questions

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

1.  It looks like there should be a way to add commands to the list, and then 
assign them to a braille display key, but I can't figure out how to do it.  Can 
someone tell me if this is possible, and if so, how do you do it?

2.  when I try and navigate through the messages table in Mail, It's as though 
VO keys are automatically turned on.  Whether I use the arrow keys or the 
scroll buttons, all movement behaves like VO plus up or down arrow.  This makes 
it impossible to move up and down in the messages list.  Has anyone else 
experienced this?  Is there a solution?
Thanks,
Donna

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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Donna,  That's mighty odd.  I just tested here and VO f1 lets me into each 
document I have open in numbers and text edit, as well as all my safari tabs 
and so on.

I think we rely on command tab too much because we came from windows where 
accessing the task bar wasn't the thing to do.  I try to force most of my 
clients to develop an afinity for the dock and application chooser because they 
offer a level of access that command tabbing doesn't really.

Many of my clients alt tab or command tab without really understanding why they 
do that or how to pick things up when they get lost.  Where-as the menu 
structure of the application switcher is a very friendly way to see all that's 
going on on your mac.  Plus as well, if you have 10 apps open, command tabbing 
really isn't any more key presses than going to the dock, and even I start out 
command tabbing around only to forget which program I wanted and why, laughs,


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On 2013-04-27, at 3:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
>> use cmd-tab all the time too.
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik and Devin,
>>> 
>>> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  
>>> I use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a 
>>> braille display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd 
>>> command to leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and 
>>> suggest that they incorporate it into a future release.
>>> 
>>> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
>>> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move 
>>> between all Windows.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
 Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
 chooser VO f1.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application 
> menu or whatever vo calls vo+f2
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
> Devin prater
> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> Skype:
> devinprater
> msn:
> devinpra...@live.com
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at 
>> the list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I 
>> was surprised.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> U might b able to define one
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
 display?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Donna,

It should.  Pressing VO F2 twice brings up the application chooser.  Pressing 
right arrow on one of your open applications brings you to a list of windows 
open in that app.

hth

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On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
>> use cmd-tab all the time too.
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Erik and Devin,
>>> 
>>> Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  
>>> I use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a 
>>> braille display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd 
>>> command to leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and 
>>> suggest that they incorporate it into a future release.
>>> 
>>> Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
>>> Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move 
>>> between all Windows.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>>> 
 Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
 chooser VO f1.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
 ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
 
> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application 
> menu or whatever vo calls vo+f2
> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
> Devin prater
> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
> Skype:
> devinprater
> msn:
> devinpra...@live.com
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at 
>> the list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. I 
>> was surprised.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> U might b able to define one
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:14 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
 display?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: switching windows with a braille display

2013-04-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Ah, you solved it Ricardo, didn't know to use the right/left arrow keys.
Cheers,
Donna
On Apr 27, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> It should.  Pressing VO F2 twice brings up the application chooser.  Pressing 
> right arrow on one of your open applications brings you to a list of windows 
> open in that app.
> 
> hth
> 
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> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Interesting.  For me, F1 doesn't allow me to choose subwindows.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, f1 is the app choser, which lets you choose thesubwindows too. And I 
>>> use cmd-tab all the time too.
>>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>>> Devin prater
>>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>>> Skype:
>>> devinprater
>>> msn:
>>> devinpra...@live.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Erik and Devin,
 
 Wow, I'm equally surprised that I'm the first person to raise this issue.  
 I use CMD-Tab all the time, I would have thought that others using a 
 braille display would have come across this problem.  Seems like an odd 
 command to leave out.  I think I'll drop a line to Accessibility and 
 suggest that they incorporate it into a future release.
 
 Interesting dilemma whether to try and do something for VO F1 or VO F2.  
 Actually, F2 might be the better option as it would allow me to move 
 between all Windows.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Apr 27, 2013, at 1:33 PM, erik burggraaf  
 wrote:
 
> Actually for Donna's purposes it would be better to use the application 
> chooser VO f1.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through 
> the ontario disability support program at 
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
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> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-04-27, at 11:47 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
>> Wow. I'm surprised too. You could assign a command to the application 
>> menu or whatever vo calls vo+f2
>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud.
>> Devin prater
>> email and iMessage: d.pra...@me.com or r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> Skype:
>> devinprater
>> msn:
>> devinpra...@live.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> You know, it's funny. That's what I thought too. But when I looked at 
>>> the list of available commands, I didn't see anything like that in it. 
>>> I was surprised.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
 U might b able to define one
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
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> 
> is there a way to perform a Command-Tab keystroke with a braille 
> display?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: We won!!!!! Voc Rehab is buying my student a MacBook Air

2013-04-27 Thread eric oyen
WOOT!
I bet that was definitely frustrating to start with. So, inquiring minds want 
to know… what convinced the VR rep to acquiesce to your demands?

-eric

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> Hi all,
> 
> for those who followed my earlier inquiry, we had a meeting with the VR 
> powers that be yesterday, and after a very long, and sometimes frustrating 
> conversation they agreed to purchase an MBA for my student.  She and I were 
> both thrilled.  thanks again to all who gave input.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

2013-04-27 Thread ppowells09
I have had similar questions, most of which have been answered. However, when 
disabling sleep, is there a general button that disables all sleep? From what I 
have seen in the pane to which you refer, one must disable or extend time for 
hard drive or screen separately. If there is a general way to do this with one 
checkbox, where is it?

Pam Francis

On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

That helps a lot. Thanks for the thorough explanation. One would think you were 
an AT trainer or something. :-)

Take care.

JP
On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:46 PM, John Panarese  wrote:

>  You can disable this behavior in System Preferences in the Security and 
> Privacy pane by disabling the need for a password when the computer wakes 
> from sleep.  However, this tends to be a user call based on your environment. 
>  I use my computers at home, so I don't feel a PW is needed to wake the 
> systems.  However, if you are taking a laptop to work or school, it might be 
> practical to leave it at the default behavior.
> 
>  Letting your computer go to sleep automatically is an entirely different 
> debate.  I personally have it set so that I have to manually put my systems 
> to sleep.  However, that is my choice.  Some feel it's better to let the 
> computer go to sleep when not in use to save power and such.  I will manually 
> put mine to sleep if I know I will be away from them for a time.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> Director
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> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings, all,
>> 
>> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my account 
>> when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something equivalent to 
>> screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious as to whether 
>> it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or change the behavior. 
>> I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  question.
>> 
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still no FB chat for me

2013-04-27 Thread John D. Lipsey
I've updated Adium, and I still have no better luck with facebook chat than 
I've been having all week.  I'm about ready to give up on this, but I refuse to 
bow to Facebook and just use the website for chatting when adium presents a 
much cleaner, simpler interface.

If anyone did anything before it just started working again, I'd be delighted 
to know what that was.

Thanks in advance.

-John

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Re: To Let My Computer Sleep or Not

2013-04-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

No.  There isn't a universal sleep button or check box.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Apr 27, 2013, at 7:01 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> I have had similar questions, most of which have been answered. However, when 
> disabling sleep, is there a general button that disables all sleep? From what 
> I have seen in the pane to which you refer, one must disable or extend time 
> for hard drive or screen separately. If there is a general way to do this 
> with one checkbox, where is it?
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
> That helps a lot. Thanks for the thorough explanation. One would think you 
> were an AT trainer or something. :-)
> 
> Take care.
> 
> JP
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 3:46 PM, John Panarese  wrote:
> 
>> You can disable this behavior in System Preferences in the Security and 
>> Privacy pane by disabling the need for a password when the computer wakes 
>> from sleep.  However, this tends to be a user call based on your 
>> environment.  I use my computers at home, so I don't feel a PW is needed to 
>> wake the systems.  However, if you are taking a laptop to work or school, it 
>> might be practical to leave it at the default behavior.
>> 
>> Letting your computer go to sleep automatically is an entirely different 
>> debate.  I personally have it set so that I have to manually put my systems 
>> to sleep.  However, that is my choice.  Some feel it's better to let the 
>> computer go to sleep when not in use to save power and such.  I will 
>> manually put mine to sleep if I know I will be away from them for a time.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>> 
>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>> 
>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings, all,
>>> 
>>> Currently, after about ten minutes or so, I have to log back into my 
>>> account when using my Mac. I assume the computer goes into something 
>>> equivalent to screen saver mode, but I'm not certain. of that. I am curious 
>>> as to whether it is a good idea to keep the computer set this way, or 
>>> change the behavior. I will anxiously await some lively debate on this  
>>> question.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and take care.
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Re: still no FB chat for me

2013-04-27 Thread Brandon Olivares
Have you updated your Mac lately? I think this might have been the reason mine 
worked.

Also, I think SSL has to be disabled. Not sure what the case is for you.

Brandon

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> I've updated Adium, and I still have no better luck with facebook chat than 
> I've been having all week.  I'm about ready to give up on this, but I refuse 
> to bow to Facebook and just use the website for chatting when adium presents 
> a much cleaner, simpler interface.
> 
> If anyone did anything before it just started working again, I'd be delighted 
> to know what that was.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -John
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Re: Slow start-up and log-in

2013-04-27 Thread Rob Bender
Thanks for the very helpful information.  I wanted to try a few things before 
buying a $99 program to fix the disk.  I restored my drive from my Superdooper 
backup and it doesn't work better when I boot up from the internal hard drive. 
I used disk utility to erase the drive before the restore.  Does this mean that 
there is something physically wrong with the drive, or does disk utility not 
totally erase the drive?
Perhaps this means a visit to the Apple Store.

Thanks for your help in advance.
 
On 2013-04-26, at 3:35 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Jonathan and Rob,
> 
> Alsoft's Disk Warrior can be run from a bootable cloned backup.  It's just 
> that running it from the DVD is not accessible because the system can't load 
> VoiceOver from the DVD. However, if you've installed a version on your hard 
> drive (either from the DVD or, more commonly, from the download) and have 
> made a bootable clone with Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper! onto another 
> drive, you should be able to run this application without problems. Since you 
> won't be able to run these diagnoses on your MacBook hard drive, you attach a 
> cloned hard drive, hold down the option key when your press the power on, and 
> then after giving your system 20 or 30 seconds to start the boot, press 
> either left or right arrow and then return.  You want to have a version of 
> Disk Warrior on your bootable clone, too, and then run the program from 
> there.  
> 
> Apple Genius bars used to keep Disk Warrior on a separate boot drive to run 
> on suspect systems.  I think that most diagnostic programs like Drive Genius 
> and Disk Warrior that are run from the DVD won't be accessible, but if 
> they're installed on your hard drive and are available on a bootable clone, 
> they can be run with VoiceOver.  (Actually, I'm not sure how much of Drive 
> Genius is accessible, but I was told that at least some of this program was.  
> I know that Disk Warrior has been usable with VoiceOver, but I haven't had to 
> do this in a few years.)
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> 
> On 25 Apr 2013, at 16:44, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> 
>> This can sometimes occur with a bad disk partition that is being read from. 
>> If this is the case, disk utility will probably not catch it,but disk 
>> warrior (which I don't believe is accessible) will. Installing the OS onto 
>> an erased hard disk partition did wonders for my system performance. But if 
>> you can grab one of the more advanced disk utilities like the above 
>> mentioned Warrior and have somebody sighted with you, you might be able to 
>> resolve without re-installin 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Rob Bender wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.   When I boot from My Mac Book HD, it takes almost 10 minutes to get 
>>> to the log in screen and the log in is very slow after entering my 
>>> password.  I have a Superdooper backup which I used to restart the system, 
>>> and everything works as it should.  I repaired the  disc and permissions on 
>>> the Macbook HD and it still takes the same time to restart.  I haven't 
>>> found anything strange in the login items either.
>>> I also have several time machine backups.
>>> 
>>> I haven't restored from a time machine backup yet, because I am afraid that 
>>> I will still have the same problems afterwards.  I have newer files on the 
>>> MacBook HD that I want to back up before restoring from the  Superdooper 
>>> backup which appears to work well and do not want to corrupt the backup.
>>> There is probably something I am missing, but want to check before taking 
>>> all the time to try various options.
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>> 
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keyboards

2013-04-27 Thread wayne17a
Hello a couple of months ther was a thread about a Logitech wireless
keyboard that could be paired with three Bluetooth devices so does anybody
please have the link for this keyboards thanks in advance 

Wayne c

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Re: still no FB chat for me

2013-04-27 Thread John D. Lipsey
Software update shows no new updates. Also, how does one check if SSL is 
disabled? I've never had need to look at that before. 
Thanks!
John

Sent from my iPhone

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> Have you updated your Mac lately? I think this might have been the reason 
> mine worked.
> 
> Also, I think SSL has to be disabled. Not sure what the case is for you.
> 
> Brandon
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 7:03 PM, "John D. Lipsey"  wrote:
> 
>> I've updated Adium, and I still have no better luck with facebook chat than 
>> I've been having all week.  I'm about ready to give up on this, but I refuse 
>> to bow to Facebook and just use the website for chatting when adium presents 
>> a much cleaner, simpler interface.
>> 
>> If anyone did anything before it just started working again, I'd be 
>> delighted to know what that was.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> -John
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What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread Jamie Pauls
In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said "Hide 
others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A perusal of the 
menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, however, discover 
how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. One reason why I ask 
this question is that the VO backslash command to expand and collapse 
conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it once did. I was wondering 
if my hitting command option H changed something related to expanding and 
collapsing email conversations.

I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I will 
be quiet until someone enlightens me further.

Thanks and have a great weekend.

Jamie Pauls

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Re: still no FB chat for me

2013-04-27 Thread Brandon Olivares
Go to the server settings tab for the Facebook account in Messages. It'll be 
set to port 5223 if it is SSL, or 5222 if not.

Brandon

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> Software update shows no new updates. Also, how does one check if SSL is 
> disabled? I've never had need to look at that before. 
> Thanks!
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 17:22, Brandon Olivares  wrote:
> 
>> Have you updated your Mac lately? I think this might have been the reason 
>> mine worked.
>> 
>> Also, I think SSL has to be disabled. Not sure what the case is for you.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 7:03 PM, "John D. Lipsey"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I've updated Adium, and I still have no better luck with facebook chat than 
>>> I've been having all week.  I'm about ready to give up on this, but I 
>>> refuse to bow to Facebook and just use the website for chatting when adium 
>>> presents a much cleaner, simpler interface.
>>> 
>>> If anyone did anything before it just started working again, I'd be 
>>> delighted to know what that was.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> -John
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Re: What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread Alex Hall
To my knowledge, that command hides all other applications. It is a purely 
visual thing, with no bearing on vo, so the conversation problems are likely 
unrelated.
On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

> In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said "Hide 
> others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A perusal of 
> the menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, however, 
> discover how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. One reason 
> why I ask this question is that the VO backslash command to expand and 
> collapse conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it once did. I was 
> wondering if my hitting command option H changed something related to 
> expanding and collapsing email conversations.
> 
> I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I will 
> be quiet until someone enlightens me further.
> 
> Thanks and have a great weekend.
> 
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closing an app that has no windows?

2013-04-27 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I opened Piano Pub to give it another try just now, and vo says it has no 
windows. Worse, it has no menus, so cmd-q does not work. How can I close this 
application? On a side note, if anyone knows why it is not working, that would 
be helpful as well, but mostly I just want to close it so I can see if it has 
an update. Thanks.


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RE: closing an app that has no windows?

2013-04-27 Thread Scott Erichsen
Alex,
Kill it from the force-Quit option in the apple menu.
That's the best way.

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Subject: closing an app that has no windows?

Hi all,
I opened Piano Pub to give it another try just now, and vo says it has no
windows. Worse, it has no menus, so cmd-q does not work. How can I close
this application? On a side note, if anyone knows why it is not working,
that would be helpful as well, but mostly I just want to close it so I can
see if it has an update. Thanks.


Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Extracting Audio from TV Shows

2013-04-27 Thread Jane
I bought three seasons of a TV show and I am downloading the videos to iTunes 
right now. Is there anyway I can just extract the audio even though the files 
are protected?

Jane

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Re: closing an app that has no windows?

2013-04-27 Thread Danny Noonan
Force quit by cmd option escape or from apple menu. Select the app you want to 
quit and VO right and close it

Sent from my iPhone

On 28/04/2013, at 11:16 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I opened Piano Pub to give it another try just now, and vo says it has no 
> windows. Worse, it has no menus, so cmd-q does not work. How can I close this 
> application? On a side note, if anyone knows why it is not working, that 
> would be helpful as well, but mostly I just want to close it so I can see if 
> it has an update. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread Jamie Pauls
Very good. Thanks for the quick response.
On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> To my knowledge, that command hides all other applications. It is a purely 
> visual thing, with no bearing on vo, so the conversation problems are likely 
> unrelated.
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said 
>> "Hide others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A 
>> perusal of the menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, 
>> however, discover how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. 
>> One reason why I ask this question is that the VO backslash command to 
>> expand and collapse conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it 
>> once did. I was wondering if my hitting command option H changed something 
>> related to expanding and collapsing email conversations.
>> 
>> I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I 
>> will be quiet until someone enlightens me further.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a great weekend.
>> 
>> Jamie Pauls
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Re: closing an app that has no windows?

2013-04-27 Thread Alex Hall
Force quit... how did I forget that? Thanks!
On Apr 27, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Force quit by cmd option escape or from apple menu. Select the app you want 
> to quit and VO right and close it
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/04/2013, at 11:16 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I opened Piano Pub to give it another try just now, and vo says it has no 
>> windows. Worse, it has no menus, so cmd-q does not work. How can I close 
>> this application? On a side note, if anyone knows why it is not working, 
>> that would be helpful as well, but mostly I just want to close it so I can 
>> see if it has an update. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread Timothy Emmons
Hey Jamy I'm going to take a stab but I may be wrong too. But, in my 
experience, I think it's like minimizing everything, hiding the mail program 
and everything, but I may be wrong. Anybody else have a clue? Anyway, that's my 
try at it, hope that helps. 
On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

> In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said "Hide 
> others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A perusal of 
> the menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, however, 
> discover how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. One reason 
> why I ask this question is that the VO backslash command to expand and 
> collapse conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it once did. I was 
> wondering if my hitting command option H changed something related to 
> expanding and collapsing email conversations.
> 
> I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I will 
> be quiet until someone enlightens me further.
> 
> Thanks and have a great weekend.
> 
> Jamie Pauls
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Re: Good speakers for mac mini

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Blouch
Right, so the optical cable I got has a small headphone jack shape on 
one end and the typical square shape on the other going into my receiver 
to do the 5.1 decode. Works great. If you don't have a 5.1 receiver you 
can also get a standalone decoder but then you'll need to run that into 
6 amps. I've done that for larger venues but it's kind of overkill for 
home. If you decide to give that a whirl I can dig up a link to the cable.


CB

On 4/26/13 10:34 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
oh, you mean 3.5MM optical.  ok.  I thought you were saying it had the 
big square shaped optical port.  ok, I'm on the same page now.  I was 
about to say.  LOL!


Chris.

- Original Message - From: "shane christenson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: Good speakers for mac mini


The audio jacks are located on the very back bottom panel of the mac 
mini. I believe from what I've read, the jacks are capable of 
accepting optical cables, provided they have the correct tips to 
correspond with the jacks. The left most jack, if you're looking at 
the mac mini, reaching around to the back, are, going from left to 
right, audio out, then audio in. They are located below the SD card 
slot. HTH


Shane

On Apr 26, 2013, at 8:16 PM, "Chris Gilland"  
wrote:


Huh?  the mini as an optical audio out? OK?  Where is it located.  
I've never seen it.  I know it's got h d m i, but...


Chris.

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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Good speakers for mac mini


Just an FYI, if you really are doing a 5.1 surround sound setup you can
run the optical output from your mini to a standard 5.1 decoder receiver
so when you play a DVD you get all the surround-sound goodness. Other
than that, what speakers sound good is a pretty subjective thing.
Personally I like my old JBL 4408 studio monitors.

CB

On 4/26/13 12:13 PM, Marc Rocheleau wrote:

Hi all,

I've been making due with my mac mini's internal speaker since my old
PC speakers, a 5.1 set that hadn't worked properly in years, went
kaput. After grieving the loss for months (not really,) I think I'm
finally ready to move on and get a nice set of speakers.

Now I throw it to you for any recommendations you may have. I do have
a certain criteria though:

- I listen to music... a lot. I want it to sound good coming out of
these things.
- I will most likely be setting this up to watch DVDs since, when I
move out eventually, we'll be hooking up a TV as a display with HDMI.
We're getting a futon so our office will double as a movie room.
- I'm moving into an apartment building and don't want something too
bass heavy because of that. I don't think the neighbours would
appreciate it. ;)
- The less space it takes up, the better. I am not opposed to 5.1 but
don't want huge speakers since we'll have other stuff taking up space.
- I don't want to spend tons of money on these. $500 is my absolute
limit but I'd like to keep it quite a bit lower than that if possible.
- I'm in Canada... any links provided would be even more useful if
they're from Canadian sites.
- I want something easy to set up on the mac mini... I don't want to
mess with a bunch of adapters.

I think that's about it. There's a couple of two-speaker sets from
Bosse on the apple store but reviews are so varied that it leaves me
unsure. Many say that it has tons of bass too so I am reluctant to put
out the cash for one of those. I have had a hard time finding other
options though so I am hoping some of you may have recommendations
and/or experience that could help me make a decision.

Either way, thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer!

-Marc



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Re: Installing Mountain Lion on Partition (Probably a very basic question)

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Blouch
Dunno if it's worth the effort. You can get an external firewire 500GB 
drive for about $80 these days so if you're dropping the cash on 
Protools you might want to just set up lion on another drive when the 
time comes or flip flop internal and external at that point in time 
(backup internal to external drive, install older OSX on internal 
drive). Splitting your drive is like serving to masters. One partition 
will always have empty extra space while the other will be scrimping.


CB

On 4/26/13 7:51 PM, des delgadillo wrote:

Hi, all:
This might be a very basic question, but I've never done this before. I want to 
install Mountain Lion on another partition of my internal hard drive. I'll try 
my best to detail my situation.
What I want to do is install Mountain Lion, but have lion around in case I ever 
decide to get ProTools. Right now, the hard drive has about 350 GB full and I 
have about 400 GB of free space left on it. So what I want to do is get 
mountain Lion installed on the second partition and get all my Lion settings 
restored onto the second partition from my Time Machine backup. I want the 
first partition, the one still running Lion, to take up as little space as 
possible, since I won't be using Lion for a while.

Does this make sense to everyone, and if not, please let me know what questions 
you have and I'll try and clarify. This is my first time doing this so I'm not 
sure what information is necessary to help.

Thanks very much in advance,

--Des



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Re: What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread cait furness
I think it hides all your mailboxes.  If you hit it again it unhides them all.
I hope this is right.
Caitlyn

On 2013-04-27, at 9:14 PM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:

> Hey Jamy I'm going to take a stab but I may be wrong too. But, in my 
> experience, I think it's like minimizing everything, hiding the mail program 
> and everything, but I may be wrong. Anybody else have a clue? Anyway, that's 
> my try at it, hope that helps. 
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:
> 
>> In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said 
>> "Hide others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A 
>> perusal of the menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, 
>> however, discover how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. 
>> One reason why I ask this question is that the VO backslash command to 
>> expand and collapse conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it 
>> once did. I was wondering if my hitting command option H changed something 
>> related to expanding and collapsing email conversations.
>> 
>> I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I 
>> will be quiet until someone enlightens me further.
>> 
>> Thanks and have a great weekend.
>> 
>> Jamie Pauls
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Re: What does command option H do in Apple Mail

2013-04-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
Command-option-h hides all the other open windows.

HtH,
Teresa
On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Jamie Pauls  wrote:

> In my clumsiness I hit command-option H while reading messages. VO said "Hide 
> others" but I have no idea what others were being referred to. A perusal of 
> the menus didn't shed a whole lot of light on the subject. I did, however, 
> discover how to show my list of mailboxes which was handy indeed. One reason 
> why I ask this question is that the VO backslash command to expand and 
> collapse conversations doesn't seem to work as reliably as it once did. I was 
> wondering if my hitting command option H changed something related to 
> expanding and collapsing email conversations.
> 
> I've waffled on enough now and I think you all probably get the point. I will 
> be quiet until someone enlightens me further.
> 
> Thanks and have a great weekend.
> 
> Jamie Pauls
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