Re: how do I turn off "1 row added" in voiceover?

2013-03-03 Thread Danny Noonan
You write to apple and hope your request is the one they listen too. There are 
a few things like this that should be easily turned off in verbosetey but never 
seem to be addressed. 

The more of us write to apple, the more chance something will finally be done 
about this and other such issues. 



Danny. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 03/03/2013, at 2:34 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> hey guys,
> 
> I keep getting the "1 row added" indication in mail (and other appps). this 
> is rather annoying and interrupts my reading an email or tweet. it means that 
> I have to go back and start reading it again. any way to turn this off?
> 
> -eric
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How to open a .bin file.

2013-03-03 Thread Jessica Moss
I've just downloaded a bunch of Sega Genesis roms and had no idea the folder 
was a .bin file, and now have no idea how to open it.  Can anyone help out here?

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Re: VoiceOver and HTML

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Moore
Yes this is definitely a bug, and and for ARIA landmarks, you have to specify a 
role within the div tag.

You can read more about this here:
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_landmarks_to_identify_regions_of_a_page

Thanks 




On 2 Mar 2013, at 03:16, Nicholas Parsons  wrote:

> Hi Chris. I've had VoiceOver announce the file names and extentions even for 
> links without title attributes. Do you think this is a bug, or is it a 
> feature? That is, is this just the way VoiceOver reads HTML? Maybe I just 
> need to do some experimenting myself to determine how this is working. Also, 
> what are the HTML tags/attributes for setting landmarks?
> 
> Phil, my appologies. I think I called you Bill in a previous email. Sorry. 
> Can I blame Karen for simply not pronouncing your name properly, or perhaps I 
> was just not listening carefully enough.
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Re: MLB spring training games

2013-03-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello,

This is correct.  But, those who subscribe from their computer, do not have 
access on their other devices.  MLB is aware of the issue, There will probably 
be a fix in the next update of At Bat I'm guessing.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:09 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks,
> If I'm not mistaken, the money you pay for the app, also get you access 
> through your computer. I don't think they charged twice. Login to your MLB 
> account with your username and password and take advantage of the 
> subscription on your computer or phone.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:45 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
> 
> I hardcore want this for my android phone.  It's perfectly accessible and 
> streamlined and to be honest, I'm out when the came is on quite a lot.  It's 
> 20 bucks for the app though, are you kidding me?  Essentially double the 
> price of a subscription just for mobile device support.  It's really 
> outrageous.
> 
> Best,
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-03-02, at 6:33 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> I quit messing with the spring-training games on my computer years ago. I 
>> use the app. Much easier to navigate.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:00 PM, erik burggraaf  wrote:
>> 
>> Dano what to tell you.  The player is in flash and won't even show up on 
>> your computer unless you have flash installed.  our feelings about it make 
>> no difference one way or the other, but at least there are hotkeys, as well 
>> as a stand alone version with accessible controls, and the audio quality is 
>> a significant improvement over the old silverlite version.  may'z well not 
>> wine about it and get on with the game.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2013-03-02, at 3:39 PM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
>> 
>>> I was hoping that I would not have to install Flash...
>>> Not real fond of Adobe.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/13, erik burggraaf  wrote:
 Hi, These instructions were for game day audio.
 
 I just assumed that's what was being asked for.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
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 Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2013-03-01, at 11:10 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
 
> Pardon my ignorance,
> Given the fact the games are available on game day audio, why mess with
> the video player on the computer? The TV broadcasts are not what they used
> to be. It's geared more for vision is for real sportsman ship and
> listening/watching.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Mar 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, erik burggraaf 
> wrote:
> 
> first, make sure adobe flash is installed and up to date.
> Then go to www.mlb.tv.
> Log in with your email address and password.
> At the top of the page, you will find a link that says watch/listen.
> Click this.
> press control option I to bring up the item chooser.
> Type the call letters of the station you want.
> it should come right up.  if not, you may have to arrow down once or twice
> to find it.
> press enter once to set focus to that station.
> press enter a second time and the player window will pop up.
> Wait about 30 seconds and your game should start.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-03-01, at 8:28 AM, Tim Mehok  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Anyone using a Mac and listening to spring training games?
>> If so, let me know how you got it working.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
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Re: Keyboard toggle between 2 keyboards

2013-03-03 Thread Mary-Jo Lord
Thanks.  I'll give that a try.
On Mar 2, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> By default, the shortcut is Cmd-Space. You can also show all selected 
> keyboards in the menu extras.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Turning RTF into a navigable Epub

2013-03-03 Thread Jane
I have an RTF file that I want to convert into an iBook with proper chapter and 
sections that I can navigate to from the table of contents. How do I set this 
up in TextEdit before I export to epub? Or do I need to use Pages for this? 
What tips or suggestions do you have?

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Much appreciated!

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Re: Getting email to sink up

2013-03-03 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Did you get any help?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 2, 2013, at 5:57 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, I'm hoping someone can help me out.
> I wanna get my email to sink with my iphone, but appear to be having some
> imap and setting issues between my mac and iphone.  Is anyone around
> tonight, to perhaps get on skype and go through some settings?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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Re: how do I turn off "1 row added" in voiceover?

2013-03-03 Thread Eric Oyen
there is a problem sending mail to apple. their support email isn't monitored 
and they respond that I should use the web interface. that leads me in circles. 
so, which address should I use?

-eric

On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:

> You write to apple and hope your request is the one they listen too. There 
> are a few things like this that should be easily turned off in verbosetey but 
> never seem to be addressed. 
> 
> The more of us write to apple, the more chance something will finally be done 
> about this and other such issues. 
> 
> 
> 
> Danny. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 03/03/2013, at 2:34 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
>> hey guys,
>> 
>> I keep getting the "1 row added" indication in mail (and other appps). this 
>> is rather annoying and interrupts my reading an email or tweet. it means 
>> that I have to go back and start reading it again. any way to turn this off?
>> 
>> -eric
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Re: how do I turn off "1 row added" in voiceover?

2013-03-03 Thread Matt Dierckens
accessibil...@apple.com

Sent from my iPhone

On 3 Mar 2013, at 12:53, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> there is a problem sending mail to apple. their support email isn't monitored 
> and they respond that I should use the web interface. that leads me in 
> circles. so, which address should I use?
> 
> -eric
> 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:
> 
>> You write to apple and hope your request is the one they listen too. There 
>> are a few things like this that should be easily turned off in verbosetey 
>> but never seem to be addressed. 
>> 
>> The more of us write to apple, the more chance something will finally be 
>> done about this and other such issues. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Danny. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 03/03/2013, at 2:34 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>>> hey guys,
>>> 
>>> I keep getting the "1 row added" indication in mail (and other appps). this 
>>> is rather annoying and interrupts my reading an email or tweet. it means 
>>> that I have to go back and start reading it again. any way to turn this off?
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
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Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Emrah
Hi list,

I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic announcement 
of the caller ID of an incoming call.
It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually 
interrogate the screen to know who is calling.

Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID is 
still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?

What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A petition?

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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread James Mannion
Maybe try turning down the volume when not in use so it will not
announce it to any extent that anyone would be able to hear it that
you don't want to hear it? Maybe do the 3 finger double tap to mute
speech when not in use and then just quickly unmute it with the same
command when you want to hear it? In my opinion worrying about this is
just an obsession with privacy that will have you always fighting
battles to no end in your life, but to each their own I guess and
there are ways around it if one care that much.

On 3/3/13, Emrah  wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic
> announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually
> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
>
> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>
> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A
> petition?
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Re: Turning RTF into a navigable Epub

2013-03-03 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

I'd like to know the answer to this too.

Gena


On 03/03/2013 18:42, Jane wrote:

I have an RTF file that I want to convert into an iBook with proper chapter and 
sections that I can navigate to from the table of contents. How do I set this 
up in TextEdit before I export to epub? Or do I need to use Pages for this? 
What tips or suggestions do you have?

Since I don't want to clog the list with replies, please email me off-list at:

juanitatig...@gmail.com

Much appreciated!

Jane



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RE: Getting email to sink up

2013-03-03 Thread Jed Barton
Na not yet, you around later today?
Just wanna do some trouble shooting, make sure both the mac and iphone are
on the same page.
You free to help out?

Thanks,
Jed 

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Did you get any help?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 2, 2013, at 5:57 PM, "Jed Barton"  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, I'm hoping someone can help me out.
> I wanna get my email to sink with my iphone, but appear to be having 
> some imap and setting issues between my mac and iphone.  Is anyone 
> around tonight, to perhaps get on skype and go through some settings?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jed
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Re: How to open a .bin file.

2013-03-03 Thread Georgina Joyce

Hello,

I was curious to what these were and the site quite clearly states:


In order to play these Genesis games, you must first download an Genesis 
emulator,

which is used to load the Genesis ROMS (games).

So the answer is you need to download an emulator.

Good luck.

Gena



On 03/03/2013 12:38, Jessica Moss wrote:

I've just downloaded a bunch of Sega Genesis roms and had no idea the folder 
was a .bin file, and now have no idea how to open it.  Can anyone help out here?



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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Not to sound discouraging but, I honestly don't know how many really share this 
concern.  I'm not so sure it's unavoidable either.  One could mute speech with 
a 3 finger double tap when not in use or, turn Voiceover off all together with 
a 3 triple press of home, and turn either back on when receiving an incoming 
call or, just want access to the phone.  You could even turn down the volume of 
voiceover so it would be hard to hear if not holding the device in your hand.  
But I must say, of all bugs I want fixed, or features I want to see added, This 
wouldn't even make my top 10.

But, who knows?  I might be in the minority on this topic.  Hopefully your 
message will urge others with the same concerns to contact Apple about it.

JMO.,

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Emrah  wrote:

> Hi list,
> 
> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic announcement 
> of the caller ID of an incoming call.
> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually 
> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
> 
> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID is 
> still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
> 
> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A petition?
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Emrah
Friend,

Thanks for your prompt input.
The fact is that if you wish VO to speak lower on incoming calls, you must 
lower the volume of the ringer alert.
Otherwise turning down the volume of VO is not extremely practical since there 
are too many cases where you need the volume back at a normal level.
And muting VO every time you are done with it? I don't think the setting is 
intended to be used that way.

Did you see the issue where an incoming call triggers VO to speak through the 
speakerphone even with a headset connected?

The fact is that I am not asking for an improvement here, but something that 
should have been there at the first place. 
I am far from being over concerned by privacy, but I happen to feel a little 
uncomfortable when VO announces the names of people that call me when I am 
sitting on a train, in a meeting or basically close to strangers.

Cheers!

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> Maybe try turning down the volume when not in use so it will not
> announce it to any extent that anyone would be able to hear it that
> you don't want to hear it? Maybe do the 3 finger double tap to mute
> speech when not in use and then just quickly unmute it with the same
> command when you want to hear it? In my opinion worrying about this is
> just an obsession with privacy that will have you always fighting
> battles to no end in your life, but to each their own I guess and
> there are ways around it if one care that much.
> 
> On 3/3/13, Emrah  wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
>> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic
>> announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
>> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually
>> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A
>> petition?
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Alex Hall
One thing to do is mute the phone. When "speak notifications on lock screen" is 
disabled, and when the phone is musted with the mute switch, vo says nothing at 
all unless you touch the screen, just as you are wanting. Personally, I have my 
speech rate at 100% and the vast majority of my callers in my contacts anyway, 
so I am not overly concerned about having people hear what vo says. If it is a 
worry, though, you could mute your phone for now and be sure to disable 
speaking notifications on the lock screen. Even with the phone unmuted, all vo 
does is say the time when you get a call, provided that speak notifications 
setting is off. The only other time you would get a call is while using the 
device, and I presume you would already be using either headphones or a braille 
display anyway if you are somewhere you do not want your speech to be 
overheard. You said that the caller ID is spoken even when headphones are in, 
and I have also noticed this and will email Apple about it. I just don't think 
of it because I nearly always have my phone locked when a call comes in, so I 
tend to focus on lock screen behavior.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not to sound discouraging but, I honestly don't know how many really share 
> this concern.  I'm not so sure it's unavoidable either.  One could mute 
> speech with a 3 finger double tap when not in use or, turn Voiceover off all 
> together with a 3 triple press of home, and turn either back on when 
> receiving an incoming call or, just want access to the phone.  You could even 
> turn down the volume of voiceover so it would be hard to hear if not holding 
> the device in your hand.  But I must say, of all bugs I want fixed, or 
> features I want to see added, This wouldn't even make my top 10.
> 
> But, who knows?  I might be in the minority on this topic.  Hopefully your 
> message will urge others with the same concerns to contact Apple about it.
> 
> JMO.,
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
>> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic 
>> announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
>> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually 
>> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID 
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A petition?
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Midi and garageband.

2013-03-03 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

Ok I will try to use garageband for editing a midifile. But it is not without 
problems. I will try to mention some of them, and if you know about some 
instruction I can read, or if you will explain some of my problems, I would be 
glad.
1. I create a project, in which I will import a midifile and paste the file 
into the project. I can not always see if my midifile is 2/4 or 4/4 how can I 
let the midifile decide the tempo and if it is 2/4, 3/4 or 4/4 or what it can 
be.
2. I have a great clavinova that I would like to play the midifiles, so that 
garageband will send the midi to my clavinova, and uses the sounds from my 
clavinova.
3. How can I change an instrument, if I e.g. wants a flute instead of a oboe, 
just an example.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: Turning RTF into a navigable Epub

2013-03-03 Thread Anne Robertson
I use Pages for this.

Cheers,

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Re: Turning RTF into a navigable Epub

2013-03-03 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

I have tried to figure out how to use pages for it, but I did not found it very 
easy. I did not get it to work.

I use nisus writer pro. It is very easy.

1. Find 1 of the headings you will like to add to the toc, highlight it press 
VO+shift+M find include in toc, and choose the level.
2. do that for all the headings.
3. Create the epub by export as epub.

Best regards Annie.
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Gilland
Frankly, I don't know I'd totally get rid of the option to read caller ID, 
however, I do wonder how hard it would be to make it where VO doesn't 
automatically read.  In other words, have it do like now where it pops up, yes, 
but you would have to intentionally flick to it to read the thing.  Also 
remember that if you're that terribly concerned, you can set custom ringers for 
different callers.  Again, it still would read caller ID, so technically, I 
guess that doesn't really solve the issue, but it is somewhat a work-around.

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On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Not to sound discouraging but, I honestly don't know how many really share 
> this concern.  I'm not so sure it's unavoidable either.  One could mute 
> speech with a 3 finger double tap when not in use or, turn Voiceover off all 
> together with a 3 triple press of home, and turn either back on when 
> receiving an incoming call or, just want access to the phone.  You could even 
> turn down the volume of voiceover so it would be hard to hear if not holding 
> the device in your hand.  But I must say, of all bugs I want fixed, or 
> features I want to see added, This wouldn't even make my top 10.
> 
> But, who knows?  I might be in the minority on this topic.  Hopefully your 
> message will urge others with the same concerns to contact Apple about it.
> 
> JMO.,
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
>> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic 
>> announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
>> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually 
>> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID 
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A petition?
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Gilland
I have to agree.  

One of my friends used to be married to a lady who I remained friends with 
after their divorce.  This jack A kept stalking her even after they divorced.  
He'd do anything he could to get her number and call/harass her.  So at that 
time, I didn't have an IPhone, but had I, it would have been a concern.  At 
that time, with the phone I did have which was Windows Mobile based, it still 
read the caller ID by itself, so I always was real real concerned when he was 
around that she'd call, and he'd do whatever he could to hear her number.  
Finally, what I wound up doing was putting her in my contacts under a fake name 
that didn't even resemble her real name even remotely.  That way not only did 
it not read her number, it wouldn't even read her real name, and then basically 
only I knew the little secret behind that disguise.  Hey, it worked…  So my 
point in all this is to say, if you want to bird someone out from knowing who's 
calling that badly, there are ways you can do so with some creativity.

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On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:38 PM, James Mannion  wrote:

> Maybe try turning down the volume when not in use so it will not
> announce it to any extent that anyone would be able to hear it that
> you don't want to hear it? Maybe do the 3 finger double tap to mute
> speech when not in use and then just quickly unmute it with the same
> command when you want to hear it? In my opinion worrying about this is
> just an obsession with privacy that will have you always fighting
> battles to no end in your life, but to each their own I guess and
> there are ways around it if one care that much.
> 
> On 3/3/13, Emrah  wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> I remember reporting this a while ago to Apple Accessibility… To no avail.
>> VoiceOver users have an unavoidable privacy issue: the automatic
>> announcement of the caller ID of an incoming call.
>> It should be possible to make this optional, with the ability to manually
>> interrogate the screen to know who is calling.
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> What do we have to do for Apple to take this into consideration? A
>> petition?
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Gilland
You wrote:

Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID is 
still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?

Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.  Is 
this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.

Chris.

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Re: how do I turn off "1 row added" in voiceover?

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Gilland
Have you looked under the verbosity options.  I don't know, but there may be an 
option there to turn this off.

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On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:14 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> accessibil...@apple.com
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Mar 2013, at 12:53, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
>> there is a problem sending mail to apple. their support email isn't 
>> monitored and they respond that I should use the web interface. that leads 
>> me in circles. so, which address should I use?
>> 
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Danny Noonan wrote:
>> 
>>> You write to apple and hope your request is the one they listen too. There 
>>> are a few things like this that should be easily turned off in verbosetey 
>>> but never seem to be addressed. 
>>> 
>>> The more of us write to apple, the more chance something will finally be 
>>> done about this and other such issues. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Danny. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 03/03/2013, at 2:34 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>>> 
 hey guys,
 
 I keep getting the "1 row added" indication in mail (and other appps). 
 this is rather annoying and interrupts my reading an email or tweet. it 
 means that I have to go back and start reading it again. any way to turn 
 this off?
 
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Som inconsistency with braille commands.

2013-03-03 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello All.

Normally, I use my braille display with my I phone.  However, today, I thought 
I'd connect my braille display via bluetooth to my I Mac.  I put keyboard help 
on and got familiar with the commands when using braille as I work faster and 
learn quicker when playing with something rather than  reading a manual at 
times, depending on what it is.  I'm quite familiar with using my display with 
my I phone as I use a display 90% of the time.

So, I was rather put out when writing an imaginary I message, on my Mac using 
the display that I could not use the following commands which work on the I 
phone.

These commands on the I phone are chord lower H to select text, chord lower J 
to deselect text and chord D to delete selected text, chord C to copy, chord V 
to paste and chord U to cut.  However, some of these commands on the Mac are 
used for other things.  So, how can one select text, unselect text, copy, 
paste, cut and delete selected text please?  I apologise if I've got some of 
the commands wrong as I remember them most when I actually do them as I do them 
without thinking about it.

Thank you in advance.

Kawal.

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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread James Mannion
Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.

On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> You wrote:
>
> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>
> Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.
> Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
>
> Chris.
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moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Noel Romey
Hey guys,

Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in mail 
in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and it is 
supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any ideas or 
experiences?

Thanks.

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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

FN+VO+shift+lft arrow.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Noel Romey  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in mail 
> in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and it is 
> supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any ideas or 
> experiences?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Noel
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Danny Noonan
For anyone having an affair or in a terrorist cell or even hush hush corporate 
espionage think about changing volatile names in your contacts. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/03/2013, at 10:41 AM, James Mannion  wrote:

> Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
> deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
> ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
> As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
> Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
> knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
> information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
> acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
> Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
> controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
> automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
> 100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
> just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.
> 
> On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.
>> Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I like Caller ID, I.E. someone being announced although I wish it didn't do it 
on loud speaker when the I phone headset was plugged in.  However, I'd like the 
choice of having the announcement muted especially if you were in an important 
meeting as others have stated.

Kawal.
On 3 Mar 2013, at 23:41, James Mannion  wrote:

> Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
> deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
> ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
> As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
> Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
> knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
> information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
> acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
> Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
> controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
> automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
> 100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
> just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.
> 
> On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>> You wrote:
>> 
>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>> 
>> Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.
>> Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Alex Hall
That command works on keyboards with a function key. If you have a home key, 
you can use vo-shift-home (vo-shift-end to go to the bottom). Note that you 
must be interacting with the messages table at the time you press the command, 
or you will go to the top of the window. This command jumps you to the top of 
whatever vo is interacting with, so watch out for that. FYI, fn-left acts as 
home on keyboards that lack that key, and fn-right acts as end.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> FN+VO+shift+lft arrow.
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:47 PM, Noel Romey  wrote:
> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in 
>> mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and 
>> it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any 
>> ideas or experiences?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Noel
>> 
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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Danny Noonan
They broke that lovely command in the lions. It does still work in finder how 
ever. 

In mail, first interact with the message list and then VO shift home for top or 
end for bottom remembering fn left arrow for home or fn right arrow for end on 
laptop or wireless keyboards. 

Danny. 


Sent from my iPhone

On 04/03/2013, at 10:47 AM, Noel Romey  wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in mail 
> in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and it is 
> supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any ideas or 
> experiences?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Noel
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread Richard Ring
The reason this particular issue doesn't concern me overly much is this. Most 
people who aren't used to the iPhone speech won't understand the number anyway. 
And, besides, I no longer receive covert calls from CIA operatives, so I 
believe my information is relatively safe.


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On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I like Caller ID, I.E. someone being announced although I wish it didn't do 
> it on loud speaker when the I phone headset was plugged in.  However, I'd 
> like the choice of having the announcement muted especially if you were in an 
> important meeting as others have stated.
> 
> Kawal.
> On 3 Mar 2013, at 23:41, James Mannion  wrote:
> 
>> Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
>> deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
>> ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
>> As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
>> Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
>> knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
>> information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
>> acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
>> Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
>> controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
>> automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
>> 100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
>> just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.
>> 
>> On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
>>> You wrote:
>>> 
>>> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
>>> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>>> 
>>> Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.
>>> Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread John Panarese
I have to agree.  I have been in many situations in which sighted people 
had no idea what VoiceOver was saying because the announcement also comes with 
the ring tone.  

So they stopped calling you, Rich.  I guess that's why they have been 
calling me of late .


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On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> The reason this particular issue doesn't concern me overly much is this. Most 
> people who aren't used to the iPhone speech won't understand the number 
> anyway. And, besides, I no longer receive covert calls from CIA operatives, 
> so I believe my information is relatively safe.
> 
> 
> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
> richr...@gmail.com
> 
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> I like Caller ID, I.E. someone being announced although I wish it didn't do 
>> it on loud speaker when the I phone headset was plugged in.  However, I'd 
>> like the choice of having the announcement muted especially if you were in 
>> an important meeting as others have stated.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 3 Mar 2013, at 23:41, James Mannion  wrote:
>> 
>>> Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
>>> deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
>>> ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
>>> As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
>>> Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
>>> knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
>>> information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
>>> acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
>>> Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
>>> controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
>>> automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
>>> 100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
>>> just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.
>>> 
>>> On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
 You wrote:
 
 Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller ID
 is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
 
 Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a headset.
 Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
 
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RE: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Kliphton
Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the top,
and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other way.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail

Hey guys,

Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in
mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and
it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any
ideas or experiences?

Thanks.

Noel

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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Danny Noonan
IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for opening my 
mind a bit more. 
Kind regards,
Danny. 


Sent from my iPhone

On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:

> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the top,
> and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other way.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in
> mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and
> it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any
> ideas or experiences?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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mailboxes not showing up anymore.

2013-03-03 Thread Jessica Moss
I've just recently had this strange issue with my mailboxes not displaying 
properly anymore, and have no idea what to make of it anymore.  I see my box 
that's labeled "gmail," but when I do a tab/shift-shift command to navigate 
through everything the way I normally do, it just takes me through the content 
of my messages and won't take me any further.
  This just started happening day before yesterday, and it's really 
aggravating, especially considering the fact that I accidentally deleted a 
message and need to get to my trash folder, and can't.  So if anyone can help, 
that would really be appreciated.

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Re: How to open a .bin file.

2013-03-03 Thread Jessica Moss
I have one, and had it open at the same time, so thought they would load when I 
opened the roms themselves.  I've done that with other emulators and they 
loaded without me having to tell it to open them, navigate all over the place 
to find them, which can be a royal pain, then open them once I finally find 
them, so have no idea what the deal is, but will see if this one is any 
different.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:53 PM, Georgina Joyce wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was curious to what these were and the site quite clearly states:
> 
> 
> In order to play these Genesis games, you must first download an Genesis 
> emulator,
> which is used to load the Genesis ROMS (games).
> 
> So the answer is you need to download an emulator.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> 
> On 03/03/2013 12:38, Jessica Moss wrote:
>> I've just downloaded a bunch of Sega Genesis roms and had no idea the folder 
>> was a .bin file, and now have no idea how to open it.  Can anyone help out 
>> here?
>> 
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Re: mailboxes not showing up anymore.

2013-03-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

sounds like you might have hidden the mailbox list.  Press command shift M to 
get it back.

hth

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On Mar 3, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I've just recently had this strange issue with my mailboxes not displaying 
> properly anymore, and have no idea what to make of it anymore.  I see my box 
> that's labeled "gmail," but when I do a tab/shift-shift command to navigate 
> through everything the way I normally do, it just takes me through the 
> content of my messages and won't take me any further.
>  This just started happening day before yesterday, and it's really 
> aggravating, especially considering the fact that I accidentally deleted a 
> message and need to get to my trash folder, and can't.  So if anyone can 
> help, that would really be appreciated.
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I photo opening when any IOS device is connected to my mac.

2013-03-03 Thread Kjsc Radio
Hi all, does anyone know how to have I photo not open when I connect my IOS 
device to my mac? When I connect my Iphone or IPod touch, it always opens up I 
photo and I don't want I photo to open. If anyone can help with this, I would 
be very greatful. Thanks all.

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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Kliph,

I do the same.  I have a keyboard commander set up because, the command to do 
it is a bit much.  You have to first interact with the messages table and press 
VO shift FN left or right arrow to go to the top or bottom of the list.  This 
is if using a Macbook or, Apple BT keyboard.  Otherwise, its VO shift Home or 
end.

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> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the top,
> and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in
> mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and
> it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any
> ideas or experiences?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Noel
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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Donna Goodin
Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to 
Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
Best,
Donna
On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for opening 
> my mind a bit more. 
> Kind regards,
> Danny. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
>> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the top,
>> and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other way.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list in
>> mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held down and and
>> it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me to do this.. Any
>> ideas or experiences?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Noel
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viewing calendar invitations?

2013-03-03 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

When someone sends me a calendar invitation, I get the email, but can't see 
anything, and can't respond to the invitation.  Does anyone know if there's a 
way to do this on the Mac?
Thanks,
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Re: I photo opening when any IOS device is connected to my mac.

2013-03-03 Thread Danny Noonan
Go into iPhoto preferences and you can set it to do nothing when an external 
camera is plugged in. 
Danny   

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/03/2013, at 1:17 PM, Kjsc Radio  wrote:

> Hi all, does anyone know how to have I photo not open when I connect my IOS 
> device to my mac? When I connect my Iphone or IPod touch, it always opens up 
> I photo and I don't want I photo to open. If anyone can help with this, I 
> would be very greatful. Thanks all.
> 
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Re: mailboxes not showing up anymore.

2013-03-03 Thread Jessica Moss
Perfect, Thanx for the info, I had no idea that command existed, and no idea 
how that got switched off, so thanx again lol.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> sounds like you might have hidden the mailbox list.  Press command shift M to 
> get it back.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Mar 3, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
>> I've just recently had this strange issue with my mailboxes not displaying 
>> properly anymore, and have no idea what to make of it anymore.  I see my box 
>> that's labeled "gmail," but when I do a tab/shift-shift command to navigate 
>> through everything the way I normally do, it just takes me through the 
>> content of my messages and won't take me any further.
>> This just started happening day before yesterday, and it's really 
>> aggravating, especially considering the fact that I accidentally deleted a 
>> message and need to get to my trash folder, and can't.  So if anyone can 
>> help, that would really be appreciated.
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RE: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Kliphton
I am using 1 with the option key to go to top, and 2 to go to the end.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
Best,
Donna
On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
opening my mind a bit more. 
> Kind regards,
> Danny. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
>> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
>> top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
way.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
>> in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
>> down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
>> to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Noel
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RE: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Kliphton
My fault, it's go to beginning, and go to end respectively.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
Best,
Donna
On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
opening my mind a bit more. 
> Kind regards,
> Danny. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
>> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
>> top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
way.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
>> in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
>> down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
>> to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: viewing calendar invitations?

2013-03-03 Thread John Panarese
   They usually come as attachments.  You need to navigate to the attachment 
and VO-shift-m for the shortcut menu.  From there, you can open it and it will 
open your Calendar app.  You can choose to accept or decline it by interacting 
with the event details scroll area.


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On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> When someone sends me a calendar invitation, I get the email, but can't see 
> anything, and can't respond to the invitation.  Does anyone know if there's a 
> way to do this on the Mac?
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Automatic caller ID announcement, an important privacy issue with VoiceOver on iPhone

2013-03-03 Thread James Mannion
There is a way around anything being announced when in a meeting and
such. It is the do not disturb feature. It is in the top level of the
menus. I guess unless one for some reason wants it to ring out loud in
the meeting, but not announce who it is. I guess then you might be
harder pressed for a solution.

On 3/3/13, John Panarese  wrote:
> I have to agree.  I have been in many situations in which sighted people
> had no idea what VoiceOver was saying because the announcement also comes
> with the ring tone.
>
> So they stopped calling you, Rich.  I guess that's why they have been
> calling me of late .
>
>
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> On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>
>> The reason this particular issue doesn't concern me overly much is this.
>> Most people who aren't used to the iPhone speech won't understand the
>> number anyway. And, besides, I no longer receive covert calls from CIA
>> operatives, so I believe my information is relatively safe.
>>
>>
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
>> Fielding
>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro
>> richr...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>
>>> I like Caller ID, I.E. someone being announced although I wish it didn't
>>> do it on loud speaker when the I phone headset was plugged in.  However,
>>> I'd like the choice of having the announcement muted especially if you
>>> were in an important meeting as others have stated.
>>>
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 3 Mar 2013, at 23:41, James Mannion  wrote:
>>>
 Personal preferences it sounds like. Some of us wouldn't find it a big
 deal to mute VO when locking the phone in a situation where it could
 ring where we were so concerned about someone knowing who is calling.
 As was mentioned, I don't think many of us really share this concern.
 Personally I don't care about it much if at some random time somebody
 knows by what something said who was calling me. I don't think the
 information makes enough of a connection in their life to even
 acknowledge it. Others like yourself do look at it differently though.
 Maybe they will put in a setting some day, but until then there are
 controls you can use to manage the situation. No, it is not 100%
 automated, but not difficult to manage. It seems to me that expecting
 100% automation to manage every situation causes more stress than to
 just use the controls provided to effectively manage it.

 On 3/3/13, Chris Gilland  wrote:
> You wrote:
>
> Moreover, why is it that when we have a headphone connected, the caller
> ID
> is still spoken out loud through the speakerphone?
>
> Ouch!  I didn't realize it did that, but then, I hardly ever use a
> headset.
> Is this also an issue with bluetooth headsets, or only with wired.
>
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commanders?

2013-03-03 Thread Kerri
How does one creat a commander?
On 2013-03-03, at 7:13 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:

> I am using 1 with the option key to go to top, and 2 to go to the end.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail
> 
> Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
> Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
> opening my mind a bit more. 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
>>> top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
> way.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
>>> in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
>>> down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
>>> to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Noel
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Re: commanders?

2013-03-03 Thread Rachel Feinberg
Go to the voiceover utility (vo+f8), and scroll down the table to the 
commanders category. Then scroll to the keyboard tab, and choose the enable 
commanders checkbox. You'll then have the popup button asking which key you'd 
like to use, keeping it at the right option key is probably best. Then go to 
the add button, and you can write in   a letter combined with the right option 
key to perform a task, such as opening an app which you do in the command menu.
Rachel 
On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Kerri  wrote:

> How does one creat a commander?
> On 2013-03-03, at 7:13 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
>> I am using 1 with the option key to go to top, and 2 to go to the end.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail
>> 
>> Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
>> Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
>> opening my mind a bit more. 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Danny. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>>> 
 Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
 top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
>> way.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
 Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
 
 Hey guys,
 
 Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
 in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
 down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
 to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: moving to the top of message list in mail

2013-03-03 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I use control one finger flick up on my track pad.

On 4/03/2013, at 4:14 PM, Kliphton  wrote:

> My fault, it's go to beginning, and go to end respectively.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:39 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: moving to the top of message list in mail
> 
> Just curious, what command are you guys assigning to 1?  I've tried "Go to
> Begining"  and Go to Top of Window"  and neither works properly.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 6:47 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> IDE never thought of using keyboard commander like that. Thanks for
> opening my mind a bit more. 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 04/03/2013, at 11:40 AM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Your best bet is to create a commander.  I use option 1 to go to the 
>>> top, and option 2 to go to the bottom.  I don't think there is any other
> way.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noel Romey
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 5:48 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: moving to the top of message list in mail
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know the easiest way to go to the top of the message list 
>>> in mail in Mountain lion?  I have seen that command+up arrow held 
>>> down and and it is supposed to move to the top.  VO doesn't allow me 
>>> to do this.. Any ideas or experiences?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Noel
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Re: commanders?

2013-03-03 Thread Estelita

Hi,
Can we asign commanders to do the interact or uninteract functions?
As there are lots of keys to press to do these tasks?

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Re: commanders?

2013-03-03 Thread Anne Robertson
You can assign any command that appears in the commands menus to any commander 
shortcut.

Cheers,

Anne


On 4 Mar 2013, at 07:19, Estelita  wrote:

> Hi,
> Can we asign commanders to do the interact or uninteract functions?
> As there are lots of keys to press to do these tasks?
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