Re: Setting activities

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Ricardo 
I thought turning on quick nav was picking the activity. 
I wondered if  I was missing a step but don't understand how to pick the 
activity
I'm sure it's easy if you know how (smile).
Lisette

On 8/08/2012, at 6:43 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't 
> mention that step in your message.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
>> that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I 
>> leave Safari.
>> I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
>> I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
>> I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
>> the "additional settings to include" checkbox.
>> I've checked quick nav.
>> 
>> And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
>> other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
>> difference. 
>> Any other suggestions?
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Lisette
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Mountain Lion Question

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi all,

Is there any way to stop VoiceOver from anouncing the kind of item you are 
focused on in finder? I've disabled the Kind column in the view options, but I 
still hear things like, "application", "folder", "wave audio file", "unix 
executable file", etc.

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Re: Solution to Multiple Messages in Mail.app and a question about VIP's

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello Harry.

Re VIP I'm going to do some investigating once I've left work later today as I 
think I know how VIP works.  I will be testing it out later on and report back.

Kawal.

On 8 Aug 2012, at 02:45 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple 
> Mail client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or even 
> if you don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated because 
> of Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an article just 
> now that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have successfully 
> applied it.
> 
> I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went into 
> settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play with it 
> to figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned with "Show 
> in iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in Mail.app which 
> says, "Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in mind, I am now going 
> to go and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a mailbox in Mail, and 
> hopefully this will clarify things.  I have no idea how that will affect 
> things -- if messages may be missed because they are then not pulled to the 
> mail client because of being tagged as "important," etc. and therefore may 
> not appear in my filtered list of messages, but it is definitely worth a try, 
> and I wanted to pass this tip along to others.  In other words, if it helps 
> clear up some confusion, all the better.  I was getting very tired of 
> duplicate messages.  They are probably still on Gmail's server, which I would 
> prefer they not be -- so maybe I should uncheck or just remove some of the 
> labels all together.  I'm not sure, and if anyone has thoughts on this, I'm 
> open to hearing them.
> 
> In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
> organized.
> 
> On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and how 
> that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be 
> notified of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the 
> notification arrives via notification center?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Harry
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Re: Dropbox no longer shows dropbox sub menu

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I did so and everything is once again fine. Thanks for the reply and the tips.
/Krister

7 aug 2012 kl. 21:13 skrev Ioana Gandrabur :

> Make sure you have latest dropbox app. Go to db site and download it and 
> place it in app folder. Open it and it should all work fine.
> 
> hth,
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online 
> stores.
> Sent from my phone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> I was going to make a new folder in my dropbox folder and share it with a 
>> friend, however, i can no longer see the dropbox sub menu with the different 
>> menu choises for sharing a folder and the like, how can i get this sub menu 
>> back? This dropbox has been with me since Snowie i think and it was after 
>> upgrading to mountain lion that it has begun not to show the sub menu. What 
>> if anything can i do?
>> /Krister
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sorting randomly tracks in playlist before burning

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hello Listers,

I've created an mp3 playlist of over 100 tracks to be burnt to a CD. Is there a 
way of randomly arranging these tracks so that they do not appear as albums? 
What I'm after is something akin to a shuffle situation where when you listen 
to your cd  the songs do not play according to where they are in a respective 
album but play somewhat randomly. My cd player does not have shuffle facility. 

Many thanks for your tips.

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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello All especially Veronica.

Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not clear 
from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.

Kawal.

On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every time 
> I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. That's 
> probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christine and everyone.
>> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid of 
>> Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
>> 1. go into system preferences.
>> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
>> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
>> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for 
>> keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what we're 
>> after at the moment.
>> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
>> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the keyboard 
>> shortcuts tab.
>> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
>> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't 
>> for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
>> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find mission 
>> control shortcuts table.
>> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with the 
>> shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which are 
>> either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the state of 
>> the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, you just 
>> can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and shift-tabbing 
>> back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into a strange table 
>> and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when you're not interacting 
>> with the shortcuts table, you will see things like application windows, 
>> control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, knowing which one this is, 
>> just interact, uncheck that box and your life will be so much more peaceful.
>> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can VO-right-arrow 
>> to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. Or you can just 
>> close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
>> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did some 
>> good.
>> 
>> Veronica
>> 
>> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
>> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>   Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi There,

I only unchecked two items, Control-Up Arrow and Control-Down arrow.  Veronica 
was correct in that any time I activated Mission Control, it related to 
shutting up speech and hitting one of the arrows too quickly.  If it turns out 
other items need to be unchecked, I'll be vigilant as to what keystrokes 
invoked this behavior.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Hello All especially Veronica.
> 
> Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not clear 
> from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every time 
>> I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. That's 
>> probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Christine and everyone.
>>> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid 
>>> of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
>>> 1. go into system preferences.
>>> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
>>> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
>>> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for 
>>> keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what 
>>> we're after at the moment.
>>> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
>>> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the keyboard 
>>> shortcuts tab.
>>> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
>>> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't 
>>> for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
>>> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find mission 
>>> control shortcuts table.
>>> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with the 
>>> shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which are 
>>> either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the state of 
>>> the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, you just 
>>> can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and shift-tabbing 
>>> back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into a strange table 
>>> and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when you're not 
>>> interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see things like application 
>>> windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, knowing which one 
>>> this is, just interact, uncheck that box and your life will be so much more 
>>> peaceful.
>>> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
>>> VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. 
>>> Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
>>> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
>>> some good.
>>> 
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
>>> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>  Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>>> 
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thanks Les, I'll be glad to get that thing out of the way. Can't try it at the 
moment as I'm at work with no Mac in front of me.

Kawal.

On 8 Aug 2012, at 11:21 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> Hi There,
> 
> I only unchecked two items, Control-Up Arrow and Control-Down arrow.  
> Veronica was correct in that any time I activated Mission Control, it related 
> to shutting up speech and hitting one of the arrows too quickly.  If it turns 
> out other items need to be unchecked, I'll be vigilant as to what keystrokes 
> invoked this behavior.
> 
> Les
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All especially Veronica.
>> 
>> Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not clear 
>> from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every 
>>> time I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. 
>>> That's probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Christine and everyone.
 Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid 
 of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
 1. go into system preferences.
 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
 control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for 
 keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what 
 we're after at the moment.
 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
 select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the 
 keyboard shortcuts tab.
 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't 
 for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find mission 
 control shortcuts table.
 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with the 
 shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which are 
 either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the state of 
 the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, you just 
 can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and 
 shift-tabbing back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into 
 a strange table and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when 
 you're not interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see things like 
 application windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, 
 knowing which one this is, just interact, uncheck that box and your life 
 will be so much more peaceful.
 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
 VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. 
 Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
 Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
 some good.
 
 Veronica
 
 Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
 Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
 http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
 Veronica Elsea, Owner
 Laurel Creek Music Designs
 Santa Cruz, California
 Phone: 831-429-6407
 
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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Only one problem with that approach, and that problem is a deal breaker in my 
not so humble opinion: You can actually like and comment using Trillian, 
although you apparently have to route the mouse cursor to where you want to 
reply and/or like, otherwise you can mess up things as i learned just the other 
day, but here is the real no-go: You can type a message to post as a status 
update but neither on Trillians facebook nor twitter implementations does VO 
see the button to post the status updates and no shortcuts exist. This, in my 
as i said earlier not so humble opinion is a show stopper and makes me refrain 
from using Trillian at all.
/Krister

8 aug 2012 kl. 05:56 skrev Shawn Krasniuk :

> Hi. I recommend Trillion for Facebook Chat because it also monitors news 
> feeds from your friends and if Growl notifications are set to speech, it'll 
> automatically read them out to you. I do have a question for Brandon that 
> suggested Messages. Does it also do the same thing that Trillion does, 
> meaning monitors news feeds?
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
> 
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RE: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Missy Hoppe]

These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy for 
my system voice/growl notifications. I have
all of the English speaking infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them 
have some weird pronunciation issues, but then
again, what tts voice doesn't have that problem? I'd take the Infovox voices 
over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any ttime. I
hope this helps!

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On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
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Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices



Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality

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RE: Mountain Lion Question

[Missy Hoppe]

I'd love an answer to this too. It's a minor annoyance, but if its something 
that can be fixed, it would make Mountain Lion
virtually perfect for me. Like you, I've unchecked the kind column with no 
effect. I liked the way finder was read in
previous versions of OSX, and for me, list view is vastly preferable to the 
other options, but changing to another view
doesn't solve the problem and just makes things even weirder, at least for me. 
So, if you find an answer to this, please let
me know. (smile)

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On Behalf Of Gavin Grundlingh
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mountain Lion Question


Hi all, 

Is there any way to stop VoiceOver from anouncing the kind of item you are 
focused on in finder? I've disabled the Kind
column in the view options, but I still hear things like, "application", 
"folder", "wave audio file", "unix executable file",
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Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[erik burggraaf]

I agree,  The tone and inflection of the IVox voices is much nicer than that 
vocalizer stuff that ships by default.  They've come down considerably in price 
too since I bought my first mac.

Best,

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On 2012-08-08, at 6:54 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy 
> for my system voice/growl notifications. I have all of the English speaking 
> infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them have some weird 
> pronunciation issues, but then again, what tts voice doesn't have that 
> problem? I'd take the Infovox voices over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any 
> ttime. I hope this helps!
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
> 
> Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality
> 
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RE: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Missy Hoppe]

If they ever make it possible to use acapella voices with vo on Ios devices, 
I'd start saving up for an IPhone right away. As
it is, my one of the things I'm dreading the most, apart from having to learn 
the touch screen, is dealing with Samantha on a
constant basis. I can't explain why, but that voice just irritates me beyond 
all reason. It's why I bought a booksense
instead of a victor reader. I'm sure it would be possible to make infovox 
voices for IOS, and I understand that they'd have
to be purchased separately, but I sure wish they'd make it allowable to use 
voices from other venders. Nuance is seriously
over-rated in my opinion . Infovox voices are great, and if there's no way to 
make Alex for IOS, I think we should be able to
use infovox if we want to. I have Acapella Rachel on my antique htc s743 
windows 6.1 cell phone, and she works great!
 
 
  _  

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices


I agree,  The tone and inflection of the IVox voices is much nicer than that 
vocalizer stuff that ships by default.  They've
come down considerably in price too since I bought my first mac. 

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2012-08-08, at 6:54 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:


These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy for 
my system voice/growl notifications. I have
all of the English speaking infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them 
have some weird pronunciation issues, but then
again, what tts voice doesn't have that problem? I'd take the Infovox voices 
over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any ttime. I
hope this helps!

  _  

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices



Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality


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Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Where I love Samantha on everything I have. 

On 8 Aug 2012, at 12:09 PM, Missy Hoppe  wrote:

> If they ever make it possible to use acapella voices with vo on Ios devices, 
> I'd start saving up for an IPhone right away. As it is, my one of the things 
> I'm dreading the most, apart from having to learn the touch screen, is 
> dealing with Samantha on a constant basis. I can't explain why, but that 
> voice just irritates me beyond all reason. It's why I bought a booksense 
> instead of a victor reader. I'm sure it would be possible to make infovox 
> voices for IOS, and I understand that they'd have to be purchased separately, 
> but I sure wish they'd make it allowable to use voices from other venders. 
> Nuance is seriously over-rated in my opinion . Infovox voices are great, and 
> if there's no way to make Alex for IOS, I think we should be able to use 
> infovox if we want to. I have Acapella Rachel on my antique htc s743 windows 
> 6.1 cell phone, and she works great!
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
> 
> I agree,  The tone and inflection of the IVox voices is much nicer than that 
> vocalizer stuff that ships by default.  They've come down considerably in 
> price too since I bought my first mac.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> 
> On 2012-08-08, at 6:54 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy 
>> for my system voice/growl notifications. I have all of the English speaking 
>> infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them have some weird 
>> pronunciation issues, but then again, what tts voice doesn't have that 
>> problem? I'd take the Infovox voices over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any 
>> ttime. I hope this helps!
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
>> 
>> Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality
>> 
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Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[erik burggraaf]

I've strongly suggested to apple accessibility a number of times that they open 
up the speech api to the system so that voices can be used across applications, 
but that's not apple's way.  That's why I'm an android user even though the 
accessibility is a bit behind compared to the IPhone.  I just feel more 
comfortable being able to choose my speech, my input device, my non-proprietary 
peripherals.

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On 2012-08-08, at 7:09 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> If they ever make it possible to use acapella voices with vo on Ios devices, 
> I'd start saving up for an IPhone right away. As it is, my one of the things 
> I'm dreading the most, apart from having to learn the touch screen, is 
> dealing with Samantha on a constant basis. I can't explain why, but that 
> voice just irritates me beyond all reason. It's why I bought a booksense 
> instead of a victor reader. I'm sure it would be possible to make infovox 
> voices for IOS, and I understand that they'd have to be purchased separately, 
> but I sure wish they'd make it allowable to use voices from other venders. 
> Nuance is seriously over-rated in my opinion . Infovox voices are great, and 
> if there's no way to make Alex for IOS, I think we should be able to use 
> infovox if we want to. I have Acapella Rachel on my antique htc s743 windows 
> 6.1 cell phone, and she works great!
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:02 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
> 
> I agree,  The tone and inflection of the IVox voices is much nicer than that 
> vocalizer stuff that ships by default.  They've come down considerably in 
> price too since I bought my first mac.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
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> 
> On 2012-08-08, at 6:54 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> These voices are fantastic! I still use Alex in Vo, but I use Infovox Tracy 
>> for my system voice/growl notifications. I have all of the English speaking 
>> infovox voices, and really like them. Some of them have some weird 
>> pronunciation issues, but then again, what tts voice doesn't have that 
>> problem? I'd take the Infovox voices over the Nuance/realSpeak voices any 
>> ttime. I hope this helps!
>> 
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:13 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Infovox ivox mananger/voices
>> 
>> Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality
>> 
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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Dean Adams]

HI All,
 You can use skype to chat to your facebook friends that is what I do 
as it will list if they are logged into facebook or online .
Regards Dean


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On 07/08/2012, at 11:27 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:

> Hi.  you should be able to do this with adium.
> 
> hth.
> 
> 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/08/2012, at 11:18 PM, Angie Giltinan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I thought I read a post where someone said we could use the messages 
>> app to do facebook chat, Is this the case, and if so, how could this be 
>> accomplished.  If not, is there an app to do that on the mac?
>> Thanks!
>> Hi all 
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Re: Setting activities

[Alex Hall]

You have to select an application with which to associate the activity if you 
want this to happen automatically. At the end of all the settings for the 
activity should be a popup button; open that and select any applications in 
which you want this activity to start. For instance, you may want to do this 
for both Safari and App Store as both rely on html content. Once you are done, 
that activity should turn on whenever you focus on any application set. Note, 
however, that there will now be a delay of a second or three when switching to 
or from the application(s) as vo switches to and from the activity. If all else 
fails, vo-x will let you pick from all the activities you have created.
On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:13 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi Ricardo 
> I thought turning on quick nav was picking the activity. 
> I wondered if  I was missing a step but don't understand how to pick the 
> activity
> I'm sure it's easy if you know how (smile).
> Lisette
> 
> On 8/08/2012, at 6:43 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't 
>> mention that step in your message.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
>>> that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when 
>>> I leave Safari.
>>> I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
>>> I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
>>> I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
>>> the "additional settings to include" checkbox.
>>> I've checked quick nav.
>>> 
>>> And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
>>> other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
>>> difference. 
>>> Any other suggestions?
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
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Autocomplete in Safari Address bar

[Angie Giltinan]

Good Morning all,
I want to just say thanks for all the help over the last few years.
Now, my questionn.
Is there anyway to stop Safari from autocompleting the address for me in the 
address bar/search field in Safari.
It's been driving me mad, and I'd like to get rid of it if I can.
Thanks again for all the help!!

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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Alex Hall]

If everyone hates Mission Control so much, does anyone know why it exists? I 
mean, what good is it, and why might I want to use it, perhaps with a less 
common keystroke?
On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Thanks Les, I'll be glad to get that thing out of the way. Can't try it at 
> the moment as I'm at work with no Mac in front of me.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 11:21 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
>> Hi There,
>> 
>> I only unchecked two items, Control-Up Arrow and Control-Down arrow.  
>> Veronica was correct in that any time I activated Mission Control, it 
>> related to shutting up speech and hitting one of the arrows too quickly.  If 
>> it turns out other items need to be unchecked, I'll be vigilant as to what 
>> keystrokes invoked this behavior.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All especially Veronica.
>>> 
>>> Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not clear 
>>> from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every 
 time I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. 
 That's probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Christine and everyone.
> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid 
> of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
> 1. go into system preferences.
> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for 
> keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what 
> we're after at the moment.
> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the 
> keyboard shortcuts tab.
> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't 
> for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find 
> mission control shortcuts table.
> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with 
> the shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which 
> are either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the 
> state of the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, 
> you just can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and 
> shift-tabbing back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into 
> a strange table and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when 
> you're not interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see things like 
> application windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, 
> knowing which one this is, just interact, uncheck that box and your life 
> will be so much more peaceful.
> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
> VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. 
> Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
> some good.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
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Re: Autocomplete in Safari Address bar

[Ray Foret Jr]

That drives me not to, but, at the moment at least, I don't think there is any 
way to do that.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Angie Giltinan  wrote:

> Good Morning all,
> I want to just say thanks for all the help over the last few years.
> Now, my questionn.
> Is there anyway to stop Safari from autocompleting the address for me in the 
> address bar/search field in Safari.
> It's been driving me mad, and I'd like to get rid of it if I can.
> Thanks again for all the help!!
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itivo and ML

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Does iTivo work with ML?

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iCloud?

[Kliphton]

Okay, trying to help a friend set up an iCloud account.  We enter all his info, 
double check it, then submit.  We except both sets of terms and conditions, it 
says something about cannot sign in, there was a server error, but your account 
was created, try signing in.  We do what the message tells us, and it says the 
apple ID or password is incorrect.  I click forgot password, and enter the 
apple ID, but once we go to enter the birthday for the security options, it 
says the info is not correct.  We've done this on 2 accounts, and same end 
result.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I don't want to keep creating accounts 
until this works.  Is there a contact email I can send these details too?  
Thanks.

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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Teresa Cochran]

Mission Control gives a sort of bird's-eye view of the screen. It's quite 
visual. I figure that the dock and desktop are easy for me to get to, so I 
don't bother with it.

Teresa

On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> If everyone hates Mission Control so much, does anyone know why it exists? I 
> mean, what good is it, and why might I want to use it, perhaps with a less 
> common keystroke?
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Les, I'll be glad to get that thing out of the way. Can't try it at 
>> the moment as I'm at work with no Mac in front of me.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 11:21 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi There,
>>> 
>>> I only unchecked two items, Control-Up Arrow and Control-Down arrow.  
>>> Veronica was correct in that any time I activated Mission Control, it 
>>> related to shutting up speech and hitting one of the arrows too quickly.  
>>> If it turns out other items need to be unchecked, I'll be vigilant as to 
>>> what keystrokes invoked this behavior.
>>> 
>>> Les
>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All especially Veronica.
 
 Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not 
 clear from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  
 wrote:
 
> Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every 
> time I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. 
> That's probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christine and everyone.
>> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get 
>> rid of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
>> 1. go into system preferences.
>> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
>> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by 
>> Mission control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are 
>> for keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not 
>> what we're after at the moment.
>> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
>> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the 
>> keyboard shortcuts tab.
>> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
>> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it 
>> isn't for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
>> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find 
>> mission control shortcuts table.
>> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with 
>> the shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which 
>> are either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the 
>> state of the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, 
>> you just can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and 
>> shift-tabbing back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself 
>> into a strange table and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But 
>> when you're not interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see 
>> things like application windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from 
>> the top, knowing which one this is, just interact, uncheck that box and 
>> your life will be so much more peaceful.
>> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
>> VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key 
>> behaves. Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
>> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
>> some good.
>> 
>> Veronica
>> 
>> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
>> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Setting activities

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I believe the first column in that table is "name of activity."  So, you might 
call it "Safari VO," or something; I'm not really sure what the purpose of 
naming an activity is, other than to quickly identify it, which seems redundant 
since activities themselves are application specific.


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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I use VO up and down arrow literally all the time, and by itself, neither 
keystrokes brings up MC.  I wonder if this also might be born upon by the 
hardware/software key toggle in Prefs/Keyboard; I.e., setting the function keys 
to use hardware functions as opposed to software might alleviate the problem?


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Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Esther]

Hi Krysti,

You can sample the Infovox iVox voices yourself to check the quality at the 
AssistiveWare web page:
http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/voices

They're grouped alphabetically by language.  English is listed as "English -- 
American English" and "English -- British English".  You can navigate to the 
language category you want (e.g., using item chooser menu, VO-i, if you want to 
skip over other languages), then set your web rotor (VO-u) to links, and 
VO-space to play the samples.

HTH.  Cheers,

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RE: office headset?

[Sarah May]

Hi Clifton,

Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
takers?  I'm just curious.

Sarah

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: office headset?

It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: office headset?

Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:

> There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
morning and ask them the exact name.
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> There is no office headset that can do that.
>> At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
>> 
>> You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
>> 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
>> to
the computer. Not very elegant.
>> 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
>> audio
both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
>> 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
>> they
use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
>> If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
>> softphones
out there. The easiest being Telephone.
>> 
>> Best,
>> E
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm looking for a headset that will allow me to hear my computer in 
>>> one
ear, and my phone call in another.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I think
Plantronics sells one, but can't think of the name off the top of my head.
>>> 
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Re: sorting randomly tracks in playlist before burning

[Esther]

Hi Andrew,

The way to randomize your playlist is to use a smart playlist.  Just after the 
rules section there's a checkbox with limit conditions.  So, for example, if I 
wanted to create a random playlist of as many of my purchased iTunes tracks as 
would fit onto a CD, I might have a rule like "Playlist" "is" "New Purchases" 
and then check the box after the rules section and specify "Limit to 700 MB 
selected by random".  The limit lets you set a menu popup to specify time 
(minutes or hours), size (MB or GB), or items for the quantity you type in the 
text box.   Then there's a selection popup menu for your criteria, which can be 
"random" or tag fields like "album", "artist", "genre", or "name", or your 
rating ("highest" or "lowest"), or according to how recently or frequently you 
play the tracks or whether you want the most recently added tracks.

The size limit specification is good for playlists that you easy burn to CDs or 
DVDs or that you want to transfer to an iOS device.  The time limit is 
convenient if you want to make a playlist to fill up the time for your commute 
or to make a workout playlist for time in a gym.  You can get very elaborate 
about ways to construct your playlists, by using smart playlists that apply 
conditional selections to other regular or smart playlists, especially if these 
are used on iPods or iOS devices  that support live updating.  So if you 
decided to make a smart playlist to listen to items in your music library that 
you hadn't played in the last three months, and had the live updating box 
checked, your iPod, iPhone, or iPad would also keep track of items you listened 
to on that device, and not repeat any of those tracks when you play from your 
smart playlist.  Further, if you sync your smart playlist and device, the 
iTunes library on your Mac would also update with the information of which 
tracks you had played on your device, and not include them when you played from 
the same smart playlist on your computer.

And the easiest example of using live updating when playing from a smart 
playlist on an iPod or iOS device is to construct one for listening to an 
audiobook consisting of multiple mp3 tracks.  Add a rule like "Plays is 0", and 
play your book from the smart playlist.  As soon as you finish listening to a 
track, the play counter increments, and it drops off of your smart playlist.  
So the currently playing track in your smart playlist is always to latest track 
that you haven't finished listening to, because your device updates the 
information on whether or not that track was played. By contrast, a regular 
playlist for that audiobook or a smart playlist that did not "live update" when 
played on your device, away from iTunes on your computer, would always start at 
the first track in the playlist.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther
 
On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:40 PM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:

> Hello Listers,
> 
> I've created an mp3 playlist of over 100 tracks to be burnt to a CD. Is there 
> a way of randomly arranging these tracks so that they do not appear as 
> albums? What I'm after is something akin to a shuffle situation where when 
> you listen to your cd  the songs do not play according to where they are in a 
> respective album but play somewhat randomly. My cd player does not have 
> shuffle facility. 
> 
> Many thanks for your tips.-
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

[Chris Blouch]

It also depends on how much security is required. If they need 
obfuscation then you doing a pitch drop can just as easily be undone by 
somebody else. I wouldn't rely on tools built just for fun if you're 
really in need of protecting somebody's identity. Might be best to just 
have them send text and record it being read by VoiceOver. Anything that 
is driven by the original audio can be unmasked.


CB

On 8/8/12 1:27 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

  Hi Kevin, what your friend could do after the call is initially recorded, is 
to edit the call in an audio editor, dropping the voice of the interviewee in 
pitch.  I'd say that'd be their best bet.
On 2012-08-07, at 11:46 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:


Kevin,

I know there is an iPhone app called "Voice Changer" that will do this, but I 
can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an initial part of 
the interview process.  That sounds very fishy to me.  however, please check out that 
app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun with your friends, etc.

I hope this helps.

Harry

On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:


Hi gang,

I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for privacy 
reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does anyone 
know of software that can do this?

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Kevin

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Re: Setting activities

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

not really.  For example, I can set up a activity called Safari, but have those 
settings applies to Safari, google chrome, firefox, and lightning.  For 
instance, now, I have an activity called text.  The settings for this activity 
are applied to Text edit, Stanza, Preview, and numbers.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  
wrote:

> I believe the first column in that table is "name of activity."  So, you 
> might call it "Safari VO," or something; I'm not really sure what the purpose 
> of naming an activity is, other than to quickly identify it, which seems 
> redundant since activities themselves are application specific.
> 
> 
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Re: office headset?

[Kliphton]

I don''t know as of yet.  I haven't received it.  But you can take my email 
address, and contact me off list and I will keep you posted.  Email is: 
kliph...@gmail.com
HTH
On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:08 AM, "Sarah May"  wrote:

> 
> Hi Clifton,
> 
> Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
> takers?  I'm just curious.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: office headset?
> 
> It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
> headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: office headset?
> 
> Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
>> There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
> morning and ask them the exact name.
>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
>> 
>>> There is no office headset that can do that.
>>> At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
>>> 
>>> You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
>>> 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
>>> to
> the computer. Not very elegant.
>>> 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
>>> audio
> both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
>>> 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
>>> they
> use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
> computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
>>> If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
>>> softphones
> out there. The easiest being Telephone.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> E
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm looking for a headset that will allow me to hear my computer in 
 one
> ear, and my phone call in another.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I think
> Plantronics sells one, but can't think of the name off the top of my head.
 
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Re: office headset?

[Esther]

Hi Kliphton, Emrah, Sarah, and Others,

That was an interesting bit of information on the Plantronics headset model.  
I'll paste in the descriptive information I found about it, and the source URL 
for the description, which is probably not the best place to buy from.  The web 
page was at Business Telecom Products, Inc. and was titled, "Plantronics 
Headset & Amp Customized for Visually Impaired or Dictation"
Model for the device, as Kliphton stated, is PL-SMH1783-11

Source URL:
http://www.btpi.com/_PL-SMH1783-11_Visually-Impaired-HS/Amp.htm


Plantronics Custom Headset for Visually Impaired or Dictation

• May be used for 2 applications: for a visually impaired person or for someone 
who needs to do dictation and be on phone calls
• For visually impaired application: listen to the telephone call in left ear, 
while the keystrokes are announced in right ear
• For dictation: listen to dication in right ear and listen to telephone calls 
in left ear
• Includes custom Plantronics Supra H61 headset and M22 amplifier (not 
pictured) with separate monitor receiver for simultaneous telephone and 
computer or dictation applications
• Short pigtail cord on the M22 amplifier plugs into the handset port of a 
standard telephone (compatible with any phone that a Plantronics M22 is 
compatible with)
• Adjustable telephone-side receive level
• Adjustable transmit on amplifier
• Quick disconnect on headset cord attaches to 10 foot coil cord on amplifier
• Includes both a 3.5mm 2-conductor and 3.5mm 3-conductor connection to monitor
• Headset is non-noise cancelling voice tube with omnidirectional microphone
• Please view pdf datasheet for detailed drawing
• Actual lead time may take up to 6 weeks
• 2 year Plantronics manufacturer's warranty


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Sarah May wrote:

> 
> Hi Clifton,
> 
> Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
> takers?  I'm just curious.
> 
> Sarah
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: office headset?
> 
> It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
> headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: office headset?
> 
> Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
>> There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
> morning and ask them the exact name.
>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
>> 
>>> There is no office headset that can do that.
>>> At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
>>> 
>>> You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
>>> 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
>>> to
> the computer. Not very elegant.
>>> 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
>>> audio
> both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
>>> 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
>>> they
> use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
> computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
>>> If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
>>> softphones
> out there. The easiest being Telephone.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> E
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm looking for a headset that will allow me to hear my computer in 
 one
> ear, and my phone call in another.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I think
> Plantronics sells one, but can't think of the name off the top of my head.
 

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Re: office headset?

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And upon further digging in to this, it seems they don't even sell it anymore.  
It would have to be special ordered, and goes for around 300 bucks, not in my 
budget, even as a business owner.  I have been contacted by another person on a 
different list, and she has a different one she got less than a year ago, I 
will be hearing back from her today if anyone is itristed, contact me off list.
On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Kliphton, Emrah, Sarah, and Others,
> 
> That was an interesting bit of information on the Plantronics headset model.  
> I'll paste in the descriptive information I found about it, and the source 
> URL for the description, which is probably not the best place to buy from.  
> The web page was at Business Telecom Products, Inc. and was titled, 
> "Plantronics Headset & Amp Customized for Visually Impaired or Dictation"
> Model for the device, as Kliphton stated, is PL-SMH1783-11
> 
> Source URL:
> http://www.btpi.com/_PL-SMH1783-11_Visually-Impaired-HS/Amp.htm
> 
> 
> Plantronics Custom Headset for Visually Impaired or Dictation
> 
> • May be used for 2 applications: for a visually impaired person or for 
> someone who needs to do dictation and be on phone calls
> • For visually impaired application: listen to the telephone call in left 
> ear, while the keystrokes are announced in right ear
> • For dictation: listen to dication in right ear and listen to telephone 
> calls in left ear
> • Includes custom Plantronics Supra H61 headset and M22 amplifier (not 
> pictured) with separate monitor receiver for simultaneous telephone and 
> computer or dictation applications
> • Short pigtail cord on the M22 amplifier plugs into the handset port of a 
> standard telephone (compatible with any phone that a Plantronics M22 is 
> compatible with)
> • Adjustable telephone-side receive level
> • Adjustable transmit on amplifier
> • Quick disconnect on headset cord attaches to 10 foot coil cord on amplifier
> • Includes both a 3.5mm 2-conductor and 3.5mm 3-conductor connection to 
> monitor
> • Headset is non-noise cancelling voice tube with omnidirectional microphone
> • Please view pdf datasheet for detailed drawing
> • Actual lead time may take up to 6 weeks
> • 2 year Plantronics manufacturer's warranty
> 
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Sarah May wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Clifton,
>> 
>> Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
>> takers?  I'm just curious.
>> 
>> Sarah
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: office headset?
>> 
>> It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
>> headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: office headset?
>> 
>> Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>> 
>>> There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
>> morning and ask them the exact name.
>>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
>>> 
 There is no office headset that can do that.
 At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
 
 You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
 to
>> the computer. Not very elegant.
 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
 audio
>> both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
 they
>> use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
>> computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
 If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
 softphones
>> out there. The easiest being Telephone.
 
 Best,
 E
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
 
> I'm looking for a headset that will allow me to hear my computer in 
> one
>> ear, and my phone call in another.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I think
>> Plantronics sells one, but can't think of the name off the top of my head.
> 
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Re: Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Red.Falcon]

Hi well I suppose it can be down to what your used too!
I'm not to keen on any!
But the Queen Elizabeth is absolutely hilarious!
Colin

On 8 Aug 2012, at 15:28, Esther wrote:

> Hi Krysti,
> 
> You can sample the Infovox iVox voices yourself to check the quality at the 
> AssistiveWare web page:
> http://www.assistiveware.com/product/infovox-ivox/voices
> 
> They're grouped alphabetically by language.  English is listed as "English -- 
> American English" and "English -- British English".  You can navigate to the 
> language category you want (e.g., using item chooser menu, VO-i, if you want 
> to skip over other languages), then set your web rotor (VO-u) to links, and 
> VO-space to play the samples.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
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Re: office headset?

[Esther]

Amazon lists one new for $310 and one used for $193.71.  But yes, my initial 
impression was that this headset was expensive.   Even the discounted prices 
seem to be around $260.

Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Kliphton wrote:

> And upon further digging in to this, it seems they don't even sell it 
> anymore.  It would have to be special ordered, and goes for around 300 bucks, 
> not in my budget, even as a business owner.  I have been contacted by another 
> person on a different list, and she has a different one she got less than a 
> year ago, I will be hearing back from her today if anyone is itristed, 
> contact me off list.
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kliphton, Emrah, Sarah, and Others,
>> 
>> That was an interesting bit of information on the Plantronics headset model. 
>>  I'll paste in the descriptive information I found about it, and the source 
>> URL for the description, which is probably not the best place to buy from.  
>> The web page was at Business Telecom Products, Inc. and was titled, 
>> "Plantronics Headset & Amp Customized for Visually Impaired or Dictation"
>> Model for the device, as Kliphton stated, is PL-SMH1783-11
>> 
>> Source URL:
>> http://www.btpi.com/_PL-SMH1783-11_Visually-Impaired-HS/Amp.htm
>> 
>> 
>> Plantronics Custom Headset for Visually Impaired or Dictation
>> 
>> • May be used for 2 applications: for a visually impaired person or for 
>> someone who needs to do dictation and be on phone calls
>> • For visually impaired application: listen to the telephone call in left 
>> ear, while the keystrokes are announced in right ear
>> • For dictation: listen to dication in right ear and listen to telephone 
>> calls in left ear
>> • Includes custom Plantronics Supra H61 headset and M22 amplifier (not 
>> pictured) with separate monitor receiver for simultaneous telephone and 
>> computer or dictation applications
>> • Short pigtail cord on the M22 amplifier plugs into the handset port of a 
>> standard telephone (compatible with any phone that a Plantronics M22 is 
>> compatible with)
>> • Adjustable telephone-side receive level
>> • Adjustable transmit on amplifier
>> • Quick disconnect on headset cord attaches to 10 foot coil cord on amplifier
>> • Includes both a 3.5mm 2-conductor and 3.5mm 3-conductor connection to 
>> monitor
>> • Headset is non-noise cancelling voice tube with omnidirectional microphone
>> • Please view pdf datasheet for detailed drawing
>> • Actual lead time may take up to 6 weeks
>> • 2 year Plantronics manufacturer's warranty
>> 
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Sarah May wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Clifton,
>>> 
>>> Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
>>> takers?  I'm just curious.
>>> 
>>> Sarah
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: office headset?
>>> 
>>> It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
>>> headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: office headset?
>>> 
>>> Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
>>> 
 There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
>>> morning and ask them the exact name.
 On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
 
> There is no office headset that can do that.
> At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
> 
> You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
> 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
> to
>>> the computer. Not very elegant.
> 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
> audio
>>> both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
> 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
> they
>>> use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
>>> computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
> If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
> softphones
>>> out there. The easiest being Telephone.
> 
> Best,
> E
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:55 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for a headset that will allow me to hear my computer in 
>> one
>>> ear, and my phone call in another.  Anyone have any suggestions?  I think
>>> Plantronics sells one, but can't think of the name off the top of my head.
>> 
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vo repeating rows in mail?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
In mail, I often get to hear a row multiple times. Vo will start to read it, 
then start over, and sometimes start over a second time. It's something I am 
used to, but sometimes it really gets on my nerves, especially when vo is 
halfway through reading the preview of the message and then decides to start at 
the beginning. I doubt it, but is there a way to stop this from happening?


Have a great day,
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Re: office headset?

[Kliphton]

Hmm, I couldn't even find it on amazon.  Still a bit high, but I guess the old 
saying goes "you get what you pay for"

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Esther  wrote:

> Amazon lists one new for $310 and one used for $193.71.  But yes, my initial 
> impression was that this headset was expensive.   Even the discounted prices 
> seem to be around $260.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Kliphton wrote:
> 
>> And upon further digging in to this, it seems they don't even sell it 
>> anymore.  It would have to be special ordered, and goes for around 300 
>> bucks, not in my budget, even as a business owner.  I have been contacted by 
>> another person on a different list, and she has a different one she got less 
>> than a year ago, I will be hearing back from her today if anyone is 
>> itristed, contact me off list.
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kliphton, Emrah, Sarah, and Others,
>>> 
>>> That was an interesting bit of information on the Plantronics headset 
>>> model.  I'll paste in the descriptive information I found about it, and the 
>>> source URL for the description, which is probably not the best place to buy 
>>> from.  The web page was at Business Telecom Products, Inc. and was titled, 
>>> "Plantronics Headset & Amp Customized for Visually Impaired or Dictation"
>>> Model for the device, as Kliphton stated, is PL-SMH1783-11
>>> 
>>> Source URL:
>>> http://www.btpi.com/_PL-SMH1783-11_Visually-Impaired-HS/Amp.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Plantronics Custom Headset for Visually Impaired or Dictation
>>> 
>>> • May be used for 2 applications: for a visually impaired person or for 
>>> someone who needs to do dictation and be on phone calls
>>> • For visually impaired application: listen to the telephone call in left 
>>> ear, while the keystrokes are announced in right ear
>>> • For dictation: listen to dication in right ear and listen to telephone 
>>> calls in left ear
>>> • Includes custom Plantronics Supra H61 headset and M22 amplifier (not 
>>> pictured) with separate monitor receiver for simultaneous telephone and 
>>> computer or dictation applications
>>> • Short pigtail cord on the M22 amplifier plugs into the handset port of a 
>>> standard telephone (compatible with any phone that a Plantronics M22 is 
>>> compatible with)
>>> • Adjustable telephone-side receive level
>>> • Adjustable transmit on amplifier
>>> • Quick disconnect on headset cord attaches to 10 foot coil cord on 
>>> amplifier
>>> • Includes both a 3.5mm 2-conductor and 3.5mm 3-conductor connection to 
>>> monitor
>>> • Headset is non-noise cancelling voice tube with omnidirectional microphone
>>> • Please view pdf datasheet for detailed drawing
>>> • Actual lead time may take up to 6 weeks
>>> • 2 year Plantronics manufacturer's warranty
>>> 
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:08 AM, Sarah May wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Clifton,
 
 Do you know if this office headset would work with any computer and note
 takers?  I'm just curious.
 
 Sarah
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:52 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: office headset?
 
 It's made by Plantronics, and the model number is: SMH1783-11 dool channel
 headset.  Just got off the phone with a rep, and it will be here on Friday.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 8:42 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: office headset?
 
 Let us know which one, I'm convinced there is none.
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kliphton  wrote:
 
> There is one, but the name escapes me.  I will call plantronics in the
 morning and ask them the exact name.
> On Aug 5, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> There is no office headset that can do that.
>> At least not from Jabra, Plantronics or Sennheiser.
>> 
>> You have 3 solutions I can recommend:
>> 1. Either get 2 simple mono headsets, one plugged to the phone, one 
>> to
 the computer. Not very elegant.
>> 2. Get a Plantronics Savi or Jabra Pro and make sure it can mix the 
>> audio
 both from the Telephone line and the computer via USB.
>> 3. Ask your system admin to hook you to the company's VoIP system if 
>> they
 use it. Then get yourself a nice USB headset and you'll be able to use your
 computer as a phone and still hear VoiceOver fine.
>> If your company uses SIP, then you have quite a few accessible 
>> softphones
 out there. The easiest bei

Re: Autocomplete in Safari Address bar

[Hank Smith]

try hitting the space var before typing in your address
this used to work a while back.

On 8/8/2012 6:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
That drives me not to, but, at the moment at least, I don't think 
there is any way to do that.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Angie Giltinan > wrote:



Good Morning all,
I want to just say thanks for all the help over the last few years.
Now, my questionn.
Is there anyway to stop Safari from autocompleting the address for me 
in the address bar/search field in Safari.

It's been driving me mad, and I'd like to get rid of it if I can.
Thanks again for all the help!!

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problem with notification centre and answer of accessibility

[William Windels]

Please include the line below in follow-up emails for this request.

Follow-up:  221214762

Hello again, 
Thank you for the clarification. I'll file an enhancement request that after 
closing a calendar
notification VoiceOver focus/cursor be returned to it's last position. 
Unfortunately we cannot comment on when this may be implemented. In the 
meantime one way of continuing would be
to use VO-D and then utilize the dock to get back to your chosen application. 

I hope this helps for anybody who has this problem also,

kind regards,
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Mail and spell check

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

I have check spelling before sending turned off in the Mail preferences,b
but Mail still insists on checking.   Is there some other setting I also
need to change?  

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Re: Setting activities

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Yes, and the excellent point was made that the App Store also uses HTML based 
interface, so I … hmmm.  Too bad you can't multi-select in the applications 
menu.  

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Re: office headset?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Ummm?  Can I just say that I can probably make one from parts I get at Radio 
Shack for about $10? And, as has also been pointed out, why would you want the 
phone/dictation in one ear and the screen-reader in the other ear, when it's 
just as easy to have both sources in both ears?  I should think the other way 
would fry your corpus colosum and torn you into two people..


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Re: Mail and spell check

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Have you rebooted since turning off spelling?


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Re: vo repeating rows in mail?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that this has to do with GMail and iMap.  As the GMail servers are 
removing your deleted messages from your computer, it kind of hiccups causing 
the repetition.  You'll probably notice that this primarily happens when you're 
going through messages deleting the conversations that you're not interested in 
and/or simply deleting threads.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-08, at 10:00 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> In mail, I often get to hear a row multiple times. Vo will start to read it, 
> then start over, and sometimes start over a second time. It's something I am 
> used to, but sometimes it really gets on my nerves, especially when vo is 
> halfway through reading the preview of the message and then decides to start 
> at the beginning. I doubt it, but is there a way to stop this from happening?
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: Solution to Multiple Messages in Mail.app and a question about VIP's

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,  This is why I do not use filters in gmail as they just dobn't work 
likwe rthey shoul.d.

Matthew


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On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple 
> Mail client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or even 
> if you don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated because 
> of Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an article just 
> now that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have successfully 
> applied it.
> 
> I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went into 
> settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play with it 
> to figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned with "Show 
> in iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in Mail.app which 
> says, "Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in mind, I am now going 
> to go and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a mailbox in Mail, and 
> hopefully this will clarify things.  I have no idea how that will affect 
> things -- if messages may be missed because they are then not pulled to the 
> mail client because of being tagged as "important," etc. and therefore may 
> not appear in my filtered list of messages, but it is definitely worth a try, 
> and I wanted to pass this tip along to others.  In other words, if it helps 
> clear up some confusion, all the better.  I was getting very tired of 
> duplicate messages.  They are probably still on Gmail's server, which I would 
> prefer they not be -- so maybe I should uncheck or just remove some of the 
> labels all together.  I'm not sure, and if anyone has thoughts on this, I'm 
> open to hearing them.
> 
> In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
> organized.
> 
> On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and how 
> that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be 
> notified of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the 
> notification arrives via notification center?
> 
> All the best,
> 
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Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any of my 
folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and connected 
to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my folders are there 
but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them at all. In my gmail 
account I can see all the folders but not under iCloud. I don't think my iCloud 
is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, nor do any attempts to expand work. I 
have so far only used the classic view in Mail as I am too uncertain of using 
the standard view. Any thoughts? If iCloud is not collapsed, then where are my 
folders?

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Re: disabling frames on the internet with safari/chrome...

[Chris Blouch]

No way that I could find to turn off frames in Safari. Maybe somebody 
has a plugin somewhere. Adblocker claims to have a way to disable frames 
but I've never used it:


http://sweetpproductions.com/safariadblocker/

CB

On 8/2/12 4:40 PM, William Windels wrote:

Hello,
A lot of website have frames and for us , this isn't helpful and specially if 
the frames are labeled badly.
Is here anyone who knows a way to hide frames in safari/chrome or another 
accessible browser on osx?
I think, the solution should come from safari/chrome... not from voiceover.

With jaws of windows, you can simply set to disable frames in ie or firefox.

Without unnecessary frames or without frames at all, we shouldn't interact that 
much on a website and we could search for all elements on the screen.

Any hints are greatly appreciated,

Kind regards,
William Windels



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Software update under Mountain Lion

[Andrew Lamanche]

Listers,

In Mountain Lion, when I select software update, I am taken to the app store. 
My question is, does this also check for any possible updates to drivers and 
other pieces of software, does this only check for the apps I have purchased 
through the appstore? In Lion and previous operating systems, when I launched 
software update and, let's say, a new driver was available for my printer, 
software update would find it.

Thanks for your continuing fantastically generous support.

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VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

[Shen]

Hi everyone,
Just want to share that the VoiceOver download page has now been updated
with the VoiceOver Getting Started guide for Mountain Lion. You can download
a zip archive containing brf files, or you can purchase a hardcopy in
Braille from the LightHouse for the Blind in San Francisco.
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html

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creating a boot USB drive

[Shen]

Hi everyone,
I attempted to create a bootable USB drive with the Mountain Lion disk
image. I have a 16gb USB drive. I was using Disk Utilities.
I started the restore, Disk Utilities began writing blocks, and after about
10 minutes, started the verification process. Somewhere after that, it quit
and gave me a "Restore failure, invalid argument" message.
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toggle reader?

[Mary Scott]

Hi all, If you are using VO does toggle reader mean anything useful to us?

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Re: toggle reader?

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The reader is very useful for dealing with large chunks of text on a webpage, 
such as a magazine or newspaper article.  Command Shift R toggles it, and with 
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Re: Software update under Mountain Lion

[Ray Foret Jr]

When you go to software update off the Apple menu, the checks for any operating 
system software that you need, including that of security software.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> In Mountain Lion, when I select software update, I am taken to the app store. 
> My question is, does this also check for any possible updates to drivers and 
> other pieces of software, does this only check for the apps I have purchased 
> through the appstore? In Lion and previous operating systems, when I launched 
> software update and, let's say, a new driver was available for my printer, 
> software update would find it.
> 
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> 
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Re: toggle reader?

[Anne Robertson]

If you're talking about the Safari Reader, I use it all the time. It makes 
reading articles very convenient. Sometimes you have to wait a few seconds 
before VO starts reading, but it's worth it.

Cheers,

Anne


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apple, icloud, and security.

[Karen Lewellen]

  Hi folks,
I share this article from Wired magazine.  It is on line, and an amazing 
commentary on many things.
actually the steps these hackers took, easy enough for anyone to do, 
reminded me of the guy caught in California for  getting into more than 50 
women's facebook accounts, just using stuff all can find on their wall.
I agree with the author, it might have been worse, if the hackers had been 
in the mood.  the mood they were in was bad enough, careless indifference 
can do as much harm as intentional destruction.
The other aspect of social commentary is beyond the scope of this list. 
why anyone feels the *need* to chain their life together like this, to 
follow others on twitter etc.
One fundamental fact remains from the start of computing...back. it. up. 
always!

 Enjoy,
Karen
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How Apple and Amazon Security Flaws Led to My Epic Hacking

 * By Mat Honan

 * August 6, 2012 |
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 *

   Meet Mat Honan. He just had his digital life dissolved by
hackers.


   In the space of one hour, my entire digital life was
destroyed. First my Google account was taken over, then deleted.
Next my Twitter account was compromised, and used as a platform
to broadcast racist and homophobic messages. And worst of all, my
AppleID account was broken
   into, and my hackers used it to remotely erase all of the data
on my iPhone, iPad, and MacBook.

   In many ways, this was all my fault. My accounts were
daisy-chained together. Getting into Amazon let my hackers get
into my Apple ID account, which helped them get into Gmail, which
gave them access to Twitter. Had I used two-factor authentication
for my Google account,  it's possible that none of this would
have happened, because their ultimate goal was always to take
over my Twitter account and wreak
   havoc. Lulz.

   Had I been regularly backing up the data on my MacBook, I
wouldn't have had to worry about losing more than a year's worth
of photos, covering the entire lifespan of my daughter, or
documents and e-mails that I had stored in no other location.

   Those security lapses are my fault, and I deeply, deeply
regret them.

   But what happened to me exposes vital security flaws in
several customer service systems, most notably Apple's and
Amazon's. Apple tech support gave the hackers access to my iCloud
account. Amazon tech support gave them the ability to see a piece
of information -- a
   partial credit card number -- that Apple used to release
information.
   In short, the very four digits that Amazon considers
unimportant enough
   to display in the clear on the web are precisely the same ones
that Apple considers secure enough to perform identity
verification. The disconnect exposes flaws in data management
policies endemic to the entire technology industry, and points to
a looming nightmare as we enter the era of cloud computing and
connected devices.

   This isn't just my problem. Since Friday, Aug. 3, when hackers
broke into my accounts, I've heard from other users who were
compromised in the same way, at least one of whom was targeted by
the same group.
   The very four digits that Amazon considers unimportant enough
to display in the clear on the Web are precisely the same ones
that Apple 

Re: toggle reader?

[Mary Scott]

Thank you. Wonderful.
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter  
wrote:

> The reader is very useful for dealing with large chunks of text on a webpage, 
> such as a magazine or newspaper article.  Command Shift R toggles it, and 
> with it on, I find that VO behaves a lot better when reading the text.
> 
> 
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RE: toggle reader?

[M. Taylor]

Hello,  

I have a question, as a person who has never used the Reader:  

How do you tell the reader which text on a particular web page to read?

I am eager to give this a try. 

I believe someone said Command+R toggles the reader?

Thank you,

Mark






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Thank you. Wonderful.
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter 
wrote:

> The reader is very useful for dealing with large chunks of text on a
webpage, such as a magazine or newspaper article.  Command Shift R toggles
it, and with it on, I find that VO behaves a lot better when reading the
text.
> 
> 
> . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
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> burninghawk1...@hotmail.com . My home page:
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Re: toggle reader?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Command Shift R toggles the reader.  It looks for a huge chunk of text and puts 
a frame around it.  It's an attempt by Safari to be sort of AI within context.  
Usually it works pretty well, but on crowded pages, sometimes images get mixed 
in with even the largest chunks of text.


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Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

[Les Kriegler]

I checked that page, and it doesn't appear that the page has been updated for 
Mountain Lion yet.  I see reference to Getting Started with OS 10, which is 
what I saw a couple of weeks ago.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Shen"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Just want to share that the VoiceOver download page has now been updated
> with the VoiceOver Getting Started guide for Mountain Lion. You can download
> a zip archive containing brf files, or you can purchase a hardcopy in
> Braille from the LightHouse for the Blind in San Francisco.
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Re: Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Did you look at the iCloud that is below the "On My Mac" item?  Depending on 
what mail accounts you have and how many folders reside in the mailboxes, it 
could be quite a way down.  In my case, my Work and Home accounts are listed 
above the iCloud one so I have to go way down to confirm that iCloud is 
expanded.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-08, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any of 
> my folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and 
> connected to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my folders 
> are there but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them at all. In 
> my gmail account I can see all the folders but not under iCloud. I don't 
> think my iCloud is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, nor do any attempts 
> to expand work. I have so far only used the classic view in Mail as I am too 
> uncertain of using the standard view. Any thoughts? If iCloud is not 
> collapsed, then where are my folders?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Software update under Mountain Lion

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I believe that they have simply modified the format of the Software Update 
process.  I would expect that anything MacOS related, including Apps, OS 
included printer software, security updates and such would be accessed through 
the new Software Update.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-08, at 11:12 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Listers,
> 
> In Mountain Lion, when I select software update, I am taken to the app store. 
> My question is, does this also check for any possible updates to drivers and 
> other pieces of software, does this only check for the apps I have purchased 
> through the appstore? In Lion and previous operating systems, when I launched 
> software update and, let's say, a new driver was available for my printer, 
> software update would find it.
> 
> Thanks for your continuing fantastically generous support.
> 
> Andrew
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I can't open folders from my dock.

[Chris Gilland]

OK, before I start,  I do not think this is a bug.  I kind of remember that 
there was a setting that I have to change to make this work, but I don't 
remember what nor where.

Basically, I have a couple of folders in my dock.  Obviously, my downloads, my 
documents, my trash, etc. but in addition to that, there are a couple of other 
folders which I access very very frequently that I have manually added from the 
finder with command+shift+T to my dock.  I can't figure out though after doing 
vo+D and focusing on the folders, how to open them.  Return isn't working, and 
neither is space bar, nor is command+O.  The only two ways I've found is to hit 
vo+shift+m to open the shortcut menu, then vo+space on Open, or more 
confusingly, route my mouse with vo+command+F5, then vo+shift+space twice to do 
a double click.

I remember there being a way to get it where return would open it, I kind of 
remember something about changing the apearance to list or something.  I'm 
drawing a blank on how you guys back in the days when I was borrowing my 
friend's macbook had me set that up.  Was hopeing you all could refresh my 
memory on how to do this.

Thanks.

Chris.

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Re: Mail and spell check

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
Thanks for the help. The problem turned out to be I had not properly checked 
the settings. I thought it was a check uncheck box when it was really a 
multiple-choice. Thanks.
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RE: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

[Shen]

That's correct. The text of the heading is the same. And  if you click on
the link for the brf zip file, you will see that the file name is
"voiceOver_Mountain_Lion.zip".
And if you click on the link to buy the hardcopy, it redirects you to the
LightHouse page for Mountain Lion.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:42 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

I checked that page, and it doesn't appear that the page has been updated
for Mountain Lion yet.  I see reference to Getting Started with OS 10, which
is what I saw a couple of weeks ago.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Shen"  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Just want to share that the VoiceOver download page has now been 
> updated with the VoiceOver Getting Started guide for Mountain Lion. 
> You can download a zip archive containing brf files, or you can 
> purchase a hardcopy in Braille from the LightHouse for the Blind in San
Francisco.
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
> 
> Happy reading!
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iTunes promting me for password

[Mary Scott]

Hi all, I nor anyone in my family have yet to disable the iTunes prompt for 
Apple Id and password.  All I want to do is go to my desktop where my singing 
tracks are located and listen to them one after the other.  As it is now, I 
have to tell ITunes to cancel the prompt after every song I listen to.  Please 
give me directions to bury this very deep.  Mel  

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Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion

[Les Kriegler]

Okay, thanks for clarifying that point.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Shen  wrote:

> That's correct. The text of the heading is the same. And  if you click on
> the link for the brf zip file, you will see that the file name is
> "voiceOver_Mountain_Lion.zip".
> And if you click on the link to buy the hardcopy, it redirects you to the
> LightHouse page for Mountain Lion.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:42 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VoiceOver Getting Started for Mountain Lion
> 
> I checked that page, and it doesn't appear that the page has been updated
> for Mountain Lion yet.  I see reference to Getting Started with OS 10, which
> is what I saw a couple of weeks ago.
> 
> Les
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 1:10 PM, "Shen"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Just want to share that the VoiceOver download page has now been 
>> updated with the VoiceOver Getting Started guide for Mountain Lion. 
>> You can download a zip archive containing brf files, or you can 
>> purchase a hardcopy in Braille from the LightHouse for the Blind in San
> Francisco.
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html
>> 
>> Happy reading!
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Dictating long passages

[Mary Scott]

I can only dictate a few sentences before it chimes stopping dictation.  I 
tried to pause so it could catch up but it did not help.  Are there some tips 
on dictation?

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Re: apple, icloud, and security.

[Chris Blouch]

Original article, which is a bit easier to navigate, is here:

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/

CB

On 8/8/12 1:53 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

  Hi folks,
I share this article from Wired magazine.  It is on line, and an 
amazing commentary on many things.
actually the steps these hackers took, easy enough for anyone to do, 
reminded me of the guy caught in California for  getting into more 
than 50 women's facebook accounts, just using stuff all can find on 
their wall.
I agree with the author, it might have been worse, if the hackers had 
been in the mood.  the mood they were in was bad enough, careless 
indifference can do as much harm as intentional destruction.
The other aspect of social commentary is beyond the scope of this 
list. why anyone feels the *need* to chain their life together like 
this, to follow others on twitter etc.
One fundamental fact remains from the start of computing...back. it. 
up. always!

 Enjoy,
Karen
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How Apple and Amazon Security Flaws Led to My Epic Hacking

 * By Mat Honan

 * August 6, 2012 |
 * 8:01 pm |




 *

   Meet Mat Honan. He just had his digital life dissolved by
hackers.


   In the space of one hour, my entire digital life was
destroyed. First my Google account was taken over, then deleted.
Next my Twitter account was compromised, and used as a platform
to broadcast racist and homophobic messages. And worst of all, my
AppleID account was broken
   into, and my hackers used it to remotely erase all of the data
on my iPhone, iPad, and MacBook.

   In many ways, this was all my fault. My accounts were
daisy-chained together. Getting into Amazon let my hackers get
into my Apple ID account, which helped them get into Gmail, which
gave them access to Twitter. Had I used two-factor authentication
for my Google account,  it's possible that none of this would
have happened, because their ultimate goal was always to take
over my Twitter account and wreak
   havoc. Lulz.

   Had I been regularly backing up the data on my MacBook, I
wouldn't have had to worry about losing more than a year's worth
of photos, covering the entire lifespan of my daughter, or
documents and e-mails that I had stored in no other location.

   Those security lapses are my fault, and I deeply, deeply
regret them.

   But what happened to me exposes vital security flaws in
several customer service systems, most notably Apple's and
Amazon's. Apple tech support gave the hackers access to my iCloud
account. Amazon tech support gave them the ability to see a piece
of information -- a
   partial credit card number -- that Apple used to release
information.
   In short, the very four digits that Amazon considers
unimportant enough
   to display in the clear on the web are precisely the same ones
that Apple considers secure enough to perform identity
verification. The disconnect exposes flaws in data management
policies endemic to the entire technology industry, and points to
a looming nightmare as we enter the era of cloud computing and
connected devices.

   This isn't just my problem. Since Friday, Aug. 3, when hackers
broke into my accounts, I've heard from other users who were
compromised in the same way, at least o

Re: Dictating long passages

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I think that's a size limit, at least for now.  It helps you construct really 
small paragraphs. *grin*


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Re: Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Andrew Lamanche]

That's my dilemma: I can't see on my mac nor is there anything listed below. I 
also have a gmail account and that is listed and indeed I had to expand it, 
which I did successfully. But nothing else is listed below. Under Lion I could 
see - as you mention - my accounts much below the icloud account. 

Andrew
On 8 Aug 2012, at 19:52, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Did you look at the iCloud that is below the "On My Mac" item?  Depending on 
> what mail accounts you have and how many folders reside in the mailboxes, it 
> could be quite a way down.  In my case, my Work and Home accounts are listed 
> above the iCloud one so I have to go way down to confirm that iCloud is 
> expanded.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-08, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any of 
>> my folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and 
>> connected to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my folders 
>> are there but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them at all. In 
>> my gmail account I can see all the folders but not under iCloud. I don't 
>> think my iCloud is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, nor do any attempts 
>> to expand work. I have so far only used the classic view in Mail as I am too 
>> uncertain of using the standard view. Any thoughts? If iCloud is not 
>> collapsed, then where are my folders?
>> 
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Re: Solution to Multiple Messages in Mail.app and a question about VIP's

[Harry Hogue]

ah, but Matthew, the filters now work for me.

Harry

On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:01 AM, matthew Dyer  
wrote:

> Hi,  This is why I do not use filters in gmail as they just dobn't work likwe 
> rthey shoul.d.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> matthew Dyer
> 
> Sent from my mac mini.
>  e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
> Skype: graduater 2004
> Follow me on  twitter at mdyer1.
> Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
> Find me on zello  at graduater2004.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
> 
>> Hi, guys,
>> 
>> For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple 
>> Mail client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or 
>> even if you don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated 
>> because of Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an 
>> article just now that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have 
>> successfully applied it.
>> 
>> I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went into 
>> settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play with it 
>> to figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned with 
>> "Show in iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in Mail.app 
>> which says, "Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in mind, I am now 
>> going to go and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a mailbox in Mail, and 
>> hopefully this will clarify things.  I have no idea how that will affect 
>> things -- if messages may be missed because they are then not pulled to the 
>> mail client because of being tagged as "important," etc. and therefore may 
>> not appear in my filtered list of messages, but it is definitely worth a 
>> try, and I wanted to pass this tip along to others.  In other words, if it 
>> helps clear up some confusion, all the better.  I was getting very tired of 
>> duplicate messages.  They are probably still on Gmail's server, which I 
>> would prefer they not be -- so maybe I should uncheck or just remove some of 
>> the labels all together.  I'm not sure, and if anyone has thoughts on this, 
>> I'm open to hearing them.
>> 
>> In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
>> organized.
>> 
>> On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and how 
>> that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be 
>> notified of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the 
>> notification arrives via notification center?
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Harry
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Re: I can't open folders from my dock.

[Esther]

Hi Chris and Others,

In order to be viewable by VoiceOver, folders in your dock have to be set to 
view content as "List" and display as "Folder".  The default is to display as 
"Stack" and view as either "Fan" or "Automatic".  In this mode, VoiceOver 
doesn't display the contents in a format you can browse when you try to view 
them.  Use your contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) to set up these options one at a 
time.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:

> OK, before I start,  I do not think this is a bug.  I kind of remember that 
> there was a setting that I have to change to make this work, but I don't 
> remember what nor where.
> 
> Basically, I have a couple of folders in my dock.  Obviously, my downloads, 
> my documents, my trash, etc. but in addition to that, there are a couple of 
> other folders which I access very very frequently that I have manually added 
> from the finder with command+shift+T to my dock.  I can't figure out though 
> after doing vo+D and focusing on the folders, how to open them.  Return isn't 
> working, and neither is space bar, nor is command+O.  The only two ways I've 
> found is to hit vo+shift+m to open the shortcut menu, then vo+space on Open, 
> or more confusingly, route my mouse with vo+command+F5, then vo+shift+space 
> twice to do a double click.
> 
> I remember there being a way to get it where return would open it, I kind of 
> remember something about changing the apearance to list or something.  I'm 
> drawing a blank on how you guys back in the days when I was borrowing my 
> friend's macbook had me set that up.  Was hopeing you all could refresh my 
> memory on how to do this.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris.

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Re: Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Could you list off the first 10 to 12 items and their state within your 
Mailboxes Table please?

Ie.

Mailboxes - expanded
Inboxes - expanded
Work
Home
blah blah

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-08, at 2:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> That's my dilemma: I can't see on my mac nor is there anything listed below. 
> I also have a gmail account and that is listed and indeed I had to expand it, 
> which I did successfully. But nothing else is listed below. Under Lion I 
> could see - as you mention - my accounts much below the icloud account. 
> 
> Andrew
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 19:52, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Did you look at the iCloud that is below the "On My Mac" item?  Depending on 
>> what mail accounts you have and how many folders reside in the mailboxes, it 
>> could be quite a way down.  In my case, my Work and Home accounts are listed 
>> above the iCloud one so I have to go way down to confirm that iCloud is 
>> expanded.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-08-08, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Listers,
>>> 
>>> I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any 
>>> of my folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and 
>>> connected to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my 
>>> folders are there but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them 
>>> at all. In my gmail account I can see all the folders but not under iCloud. 
>>> I don't think my iCloud is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, nor do any 
>>> attempts to expand work. I have so far only used the classic view in Mail 
>>> as I am too uncertain of using the standard view. Any thoughts? If iCloud 
>>> is not collapsed, then where are my folders?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: iTunes promting me for password

[Tim Kilburn]

Are these items purchased content through iTunes?  
In either case, iTunes is likely trying to access the Store when it opens.

By default, when you open an item from the Desktop, or any other location for 
that matter, iTunes will make a copy of those items in its own iTunes Library.  
Therefore, instead of accessing them from the Desktop, go into iTunes first and 
then play the songs from there.  You can also place all the items from that 
folder on your Desktop into a Playlist if you wish so that they remain 
together.  The iTunes media player is more than just a player so it prefers to 
have it's media cataloged and residing within its Library.  For those used to 
some other media players, this is difficult to get used to but after you do, it 
is easy to work with and quite a powerful media manager.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-08, at 1:36 PM, Mary Scott  wrote:

> Hi all, I nor anyone in my family have yet to disable the iTunes prompt for 
> Apple Id and password.  All I want to do is go to my desktop where my singing 
> tracks are located and listen to them one after the other.  As it is now, I 
> have to tell ITunes to cancel the prompt after every song I listen to.  
> Please give me directions to bury this very deep.  Mel  
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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I don't even know how to like or comment on people's facebook posts with 
Trillion. I just go to the Facebook mobile site to do whatever I need to do so 
that really doesn't bother me. Trillion does what I want it to do so that's 
good enough for me.

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Re: Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear tim,

I feel such a fool! I've just went to the machine where I have mountain lion 
installed, opened Mail again, and interacted with the list of mailboxes, and 
this time I did find the iCloud mailbox which reported to be collapsed. I 
expanded it and there they were, all my folders. I can't explain why I couldn't 
see them before but I swear I did go many a time through the mailbox list both 
interacting and not interacting with the list. I can't think what suddenly 
changed in order for me to see the iCloud mailbox in the position you had 
described.

I hope I didn't waste your time, Tim. Thanks a million.

Andrew
On 8 Aug 2012, at 21:41, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Could you list off the first 10 to 12 items and their state within your 
> Mailboxes Table please?
> 
> Ie.
> 
> Mailboxes - expanded
> Inboxes - expanded
> Work
> Home
> blah blah
> 
> Later..
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-08, at 2:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> That's my dilemma: I can't see on my mac nor is there anything listed below. 
>> I also have a gmail account and that is listed and indeed I had to expand 
>> it, which I did successfully. But nothing else is listed below. Under Lion I 
>> could see - as you mention - my accounts much below the icloud account. 
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 19:52, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Did you look at the iCloud that is below the "On My Mac" item?  Depending 
>>> on what mail accounts you have and how many folders reside in the 
>>> mailboxes, it could be quite a way down.  In my case, my Work and Home 
>>> accounts are listed above the iCloud one so I have to go way down to 
>>> confirm that iCloud is expanded.
>>> 
>>> HTH.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-08, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Listers,
 
 I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any 
 of my folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and 
 connected to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my 
 folders are there but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them 
 at all. In my gmail account I can see all the folders but not under 
 iCloud. I don't think my iCloud is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, 
 nor do any attempts to expand work. I have so far only used the classic 
 view in Mail as I am too uncertain of using the standard view. Any 
 thoughts? If iCloud is not collapsed, then where are my folders?
 
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VIP Mail and Strange behaviours in my mailbox list.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hello.

I got my VIP folder set up in mail but now I seem to have duplicated items i.e. 
the items were already saved in another mail folder but now the items are saved 
in two mailboxes.  Can I delete one lot of items or will the items be deleted 
in both mailboxes?

My other problem is now in the mailboxes table as well as the VIP mailbox, I 
also have another mailbox underneath which is called my contact recipient's 
name is this supposed to happen?  Also if I move further down the mailbox list, 
I have another mailbox called Today.  This happened when I created a VIP or 
perhaps a rule.  If I delete Today will the mail get deleted out of my inbox?

Your replies are most welcome.

Thanks in advance.

Kawal.

Thanks in advance.

Kawal. 
On 8 Aug 2012, at 21:41, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> ah, but Matthew, the filters now work for me.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 11:01 AM, matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,  This is why I do not use filters in gmail as they just dobn't work 
>> likwe rthey shoul.d.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> matthew Dyer
>> 
>> Sent from my mac mini.
>>  e-mail/msn: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>> Skype: graduater 2004
>> Follow me on  twitter at mdyer1.
>> Facebook: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
>> Find me on zello  at graduater2004.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, guys,
>>> 
>>> For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple 
>>> Mail client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or 
>>> even if you don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated 
>>> because of Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an 
>>> article just now that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have 
>>> successfully applied it.
>>> 
>>> I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went 
>>> into settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play 
>>> with it to figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned 
>>> with "Show in iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in 
>>> Mail.app which says, "Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in 
>>> mind, I am now going to go and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a 
>>> mailbox in Mail, and hopefully this will clarify things.  I have no idea 
>>> how that will affect things -- if messages may be missed because they are 
>>> then not pulled to the mail client because of being tagged as "important," 
>>> etc. and therefore may not appear in my filtered list of messages, but it 
>>> is definitely worth a try, and I wanted to pass this tip along to others.  
>>> In other words, if it helps clear up some confusion, all the better.  I was 
>>> getting very tired of duplicate messages.  They are probably still on 
>>> Gmail's server, which I would prefer they not be -- so maybe I should 
>>> uncheck or just remove some of the labels all together.  I'm not sure, and 
>>> if anyone has thoughts on this, I'm open to hearing them.
>>> 
>>> In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
>>> organized.
>>> 
>>> On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and 
>>> how that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be 
>>> notified of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the 
>>> notification arrives via notification center?
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> 
>>> Harry
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Re: I can't open folders from my dock.

[Chris Gilland]

OK Ester, that is bringing up a menu when I hit return on the folder now.  OK, 
one of the options says open in finder, but still it's bringing up the sub 
folders within the folder in a contextual menu as sub menus.  Can I not get it 
where it literally by default when I hit return on the folder in the doc, it 
opens in a full fledged Finder window instead of a contextual menu?

Chris.

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hi Chris and Others,
> 
> In order to be viewable by VoiceOver, folders in your dock have to be set to 
> view content as "List" and display as "Folder".  The default is to display as 
> "Stack" and view as either "Fan" or "Automatic".  In this mode, VoiceOver 
> doesn't display the contents in a format you can browse when you try to view 
> them.  Use your contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) to set up these options one at a 
> time.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:59 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:
> 
>> OK, before I start,  I do not think this is a bug.  I kind of remember that 
>> there was a setting that I have to change to make this work, but I don't 
>> remember what nor where.
>> 
>> Basically, I have a couple of folders in my dock.  Obviously, my downloads, 
>> my documents, my trash, etc. but in addition to that, there are a couple of 
>> other folders which I access very very frequently that I have manually added 
>> from the finder with command+shift+T to my dock.  I can't figure out though 
>> after doing vo+D and focusing on the folders, how to open them.  Return 
>> isn't working, and neither is space bar, nor is command+O.  The only two 
>> ways I've found is to hit vo+shift+m to open the shortcut menu, then 
>> vo+space on Open, or more confusingly, route my mouse with vo+command+F5, 
>> then vo+shift+space twice to do a double click.
>> 
>> I remember there being a way to get it where return would open it, I kind of 
>> remember something about changing the apearance to list or something.  I'm 
>> drawing a blank on how you guys back in the days when I was borrowing my 
>> friend's macbook had me set that up.  Was hopeing you all could refresh my 
>> memory on how to do this.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Chris.
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adobe digital edition help

[Maxwell Ivey]

hello; i finally downloaded and installed adobe digital edition for mac.  the 
version 1.8 says it has help for accessibility.  i am finding it pretty easy to 
understand, but the one thing i can't find is how to slow the reading speed 
down. does anyone know? thanks, max 

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Favorite mailbox question

[Mary Scott]

Hi all, I love being able to press command 1 to quickly go to my in box.  Is 
there a way to make command 2 my Mac Lists?  
Will somebody please tell me what HDH at the end of an e-mail means?  I hate 
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RE: Favorite mailbox question

[Jeff Bishop]

HTH means "hope that helps".

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Hi all, I love being able to press command 1 to quickly go to my in box.  Is
there a way to make command 2 my Mac Lists?  
Will somebody please tell me what HDH at the end of an e-mail means?  I hate
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Re: Can't see my folders under iCloud account in Mountain Lion

[Tim Kilburn]

No problem Andrew.  I've found that, sometimes, especially after a weekend, 
gremlins invade computer technology and mess with things just because they can. 
 I realize this isn't after a weekend but it just happens anyway.

Have a good one.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Dear tim,
> 
> I feel such a fool! I've just went to the machine where I have mountain lion 
> installed, opened Mail again, and interacted with the list of mailboxes, and 
> this time I did find the iCloud mailbox which reported to be collapsed. I 
> expanded it and there they were, all my folders. I can't explain why I 
> couldn't see them before but I swear I did go many a time through the mailbox 
> list both interacting and not interacting with the list. I can't think what 
> suddenly changed in order for me to see the iCloud mailbox in the position 
> you had described.
> 
> I hope I didn't waste your time, Tim. Thanks a million.
> 
> Andrew
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 21:41, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Could you list off the first 10 to 12 items and their state within your 
>> Mailboxes Table please?
>> 
>> Ie.
>> 
>> Mailboxes - expanded
>> Inboxes - expanded
>> Work
>> Home
>> blah blah
>> 
>> Later..
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2012-08-08, at 2:27 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's my dilemma: I can't see on my mac nor is there anything listed 
>>> below. I also have a gmail account and that is listed and indeed I had to 
>>> expand it, which I did successfully. But nothing else is listed below. 
>>> Under Lion I could see - as you mention - my accounts much below the icloud 
>>> account. 
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 19:52, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Did you look at the iCloud that is below the "On My Mac" item?  Depending 
 on what mail accounts you have and how many folders reside in the 
 mailboxes, it could be quite a way down.  In my case, my Work and Home 
 accounts are listed above the iCloud one so I have to go way down to 
 confirm that iCloud is expanded.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On 2012-08-08, at 11:04 AM, Andrew Lamanche  
 wrote:
 
> Listers,
> 
> I am beginning to experiment with Mountain Lion. In Mail, I can't see any 
> of my folders which I have under my iCloud account. I went on the web and 
> connected to my iCloud account via the browser, and I can see all my 
> folders are there but when I open Mail in Mountain Lion, I can't see them 
> at all. In my gmail account I can see all the folders but not under 
> iCloud. I don't think my iCloud is collapsed, Voiceover does not say so, 
> nor do any attempts to expand work. I have so far only used the classic 
> view in Mail as I am too uncertain of using the standard view. Any 
> thoughts? If iCloud is not collapsed, then where are my folders?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: Favorite mailbox question

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

You'll notice in your Favourites bar that the InBox is listed first.  That is 
cmd-1.  You need to drag your Mac List mailbox folder into the second position 
in order for cmd-2 to activate that mailbox.  Dragging is sometimes a bit of 
fun but work with it a bit and hopefully it'll drop there fore you.

HTH.  (means "Hope this helps)

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi all, I love being able to press command 1 to quickly go to my in box.  Is 
> there a way to make command 2 my Mac Lists?  
> Will somebody please tell me what HDH at the end of an e-mail means?  I hate 
> being in the dark.  Mel 
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Audio Hijack Pro, Weirdness when Selecting Days of the week?

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get my head around what's happening in Audio Hijack Pro 
when I attempt to schedule recordings on certain weekdays. I select the 
"every pop-up button, and then use VO-right arrow to navigate through 
the days of the week list and check the ones I desire. however, it seems 
like the very act of navigating between these check boxes with VO-left 
and right is changing a setting. If I  tab through the list and check 
each desired day with the space bar, my recording is scheduled 
correctly. However, if I ever inadvertently VO into that list of days, 
my settings are lost, and it reverts back to scheduling recordings on 
every Monday. Are there any fixes for this or is it just one of those 
small annoyances in life we need to work around?

Thanks,

Al

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Re: adobe digital edition help

[Ray Foret Jr]

VO+command+right or left to get to the speaking rate; then, VO+command+up or 
down to adjust.

HTH.


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> hello; i finally downloaded and installed adobe digital edition for mac.  the 
> version 1.8 says it has help for accessibility.  i am finding it pretty easy 
> to understand, but the one thing i can't find is how to slow the reading 
> speed down. does anyone know? thanks, max 
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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

[Kevin Shaw]

I should have been more specific. The person is being interviewed live on the 
radio via Skype. It's important that we protect the person's identity for 
reasons of privacy and safety. the interview cannot be pre taped, as the 
interviewee insists on doing the interview live.

So, again, if anyone knows of software that can achieve this, I'd be most 
grateful. 

Kevin

On 2012-08-08, at 11:22 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> It also depends on how much security is required. If they need obfuscation 
> then you doing a pitch drop can just as easily be undone by somebody else. I 
> wouldn't rely on tools built just for fun if you're really in need of 
> protecting somebody's identity. Might be best to just have them send text and 
> record it being read by VoiceOver. Anything that is driven by the original 
> audio can be unmasked.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/8/12 1:27 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
>>  Hi Kevin, what your friend could do after the call is initially recorded, 
>> is to edit the call in an audio editor, dropping the voice of the 
>> interviewee in pitch.  I'd say that'd be their best bet.
>> On 2012-08-07, at 11:46 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:
>> 
>>> Kevin,
>>> 
>>> I know there is an iPhone app called "Voice Changer" that will do this, but 
>>> I can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an 
>>> initial part of the interview process.  That sounds very fishy to me.  
>>> however, please check out that app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun 
>>> with your friends, etc.
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi gang,
 
 I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for 
 privacy reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. 
 Does anyone know of software that can do this?
 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
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Re: adobe digital edition help

[Maxwell Ivey]

now you know i feel stupid for not thinking of that.  all i'll have to do is 
reset the speech rate when I'm through with my book. thanks, max 
On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> VO+command+right or left to get to the speaking rate; then, VO+command+up or 
> down to adjust.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
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> 
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> On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:12 PM, Maxwell Ivey  wrote:
> 
>> hello; i finally downloaded and installed adobe digital edition for mac.  
>> the version 1.8 says it has help for accessibility.  i am finding it pretty 
>> easy to understand, but the one thing i can't find is how to slow the 
>> reading speed down. does anyone know? thanks, max 
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dication

[Krysti .Power]

anyone having problems i try and say my name ect and it comes up something
totaly different

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Re: dication

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… Your name is Ect?  You might have to spell that one. :) Or… Hmmm.  One 
wonders if there's a way to make Dictation learn a word.


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Re: Audio Hijack Pro, Weirdness when Selecting Days of the week?

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, Al, I noticed this, too. Tab with spacebar is the best bet. You could also 
turn cursor tracking off and then use VO to check the boxes, but that seems 
like the long way round. I don't have an explanation for this behavior, but the 
workaround is quite doable, so I haven't really pursued it.

HtH,
Teresa

On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Al Puzzuoli  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I'm trying to get my head around what's happening in Audio Hijack Pro when I 
> attempt to schedule recordings on certain weekdays. I select the "every 
> pop-up button, and then use VO-right arrow to navigate through the days of 
> the week list and check the ones I desire. however, it seems like the very 
> act of navigating between these check boxes with VO-left and right is 
> changing a setting. If I  tab through the list and check each desired day 
> with the space bar, my recording is scheduled correctly. However, if I ever 
> inadvertently VO into that list of days, my settings are lost, and it reverts 
> back to scheduling recordings on every Monday. Are there any fixes for this 
> or is it just one of those small annoyances in life we need to work around?
> Thanks,
> 
> Al
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro, Weirdness when Selecting Days of the week?

[Ray Foret Jr]

The question is, do you have the latest version of hijack pro?
Sincerely,
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On Aug 8, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Yes, Al, I noticed this, too. Tab with spacebar is the best bet. You could 
> also turn cursor tracking off and then use VO to check the boxes, but that 
> seems like the long way round. I don't have an explanation for this behavior, 
> but the workaround is quite doable, so I haven't really pursued it.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:38 PM, Al Puzzuoli  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I'm trying to get my head around what's happening in Audio Hijack Pro when I 
>> attempt to schedule recordings on certain weekdays. I select the "every 
>> pop-up button, and then use VO-right arrow to navigate through the days of 
>> the week list and check the ones I desire. however, it seems like the very 
>> act of navigating between these check boxes with VO-left and right is 
>> changing a setting. If I  tab through the list and check each desired day 
>> with the space bar, my recording is scheduled correctly. However, if I ever 
>> inadvertently VO into that list of days, my settings are lost, and it 
>> reverts back to scheduling recordings on every Monday. Are there any fixes 
>> for this or is it just one of those small annoyances in life we need to work 
>> around?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Al
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Re: Audio Hijack Pro, Weirdness when Selecting Days of the week?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

if you have a macbook or, a magic trackpad, you can try using the trackpad 
commander to navigate in here.

hth

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 7:38 PM, Al Puzzuoli  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I'm trying to get my head around what's happening in Audio Hijack Pro when I 
> attempt to schedule recordings on certain weekdays. I select the "every 
> pop-up button, and then use VO-right arrow to navigate through the days of 
> the week list and check the ones I desire. however, it seems like the very 
> act of navigating between these check boxes with VO-left and right is 
> changing a setting. If I  tab through the list and check each desired day 
> with the space bar, my recording is scheduled correctly. However, if I ever 
> inadvertently VO into that list of days, my settings are lost, and it reverts 
> back to scheduling recordings on every Monday. Are there any fixes for this 
> or is it just one of those small annoyances in life we need to work around?
> Thanks,
> 
> Al
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Veronica Elsea]

Hi there!
Less is right. There are other things you may or may not want to uncheck in 
that list. You'll find control-left-arrow, and F12, hich opens dash board, or 
at least it did in Lion.  But there is also F11 to open the desktop. I 
like to use that one sometimes, so I don't uncheck that box. That's why a good 
old-fashioned snoop is in order here. Have fun!

Veronica

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 3:25 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Thanks Les, I'll be glad to get that thing out of the way. Can't try it at 
> the moment as I'm at work with no Mac in front of me.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 8 Aug 2012, at 11:21 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
>> Hi There,
>> 
>> I only unchecked two items, Control-Up Arrow and Control-Down arrow.  
>> Veronica was correct in that any time I activated Mission Control, it 
>> related to shutting up speech and hitting one of the arrows too quickly.  If 
>> it turns out other items need to be unchecked, I'll be vigilant as to what 
>> keystrokes invoked this behavior.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Aug 8, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello All especially Veronica.
>>> 
>>> Do you uncheck every check box? I hate Mission control and it was not clear 
>>> from veronica's instructions. Sorry if I'm missing someding.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2012, at 06:46 AM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every 
 time I used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. 
 That's probably what's happening in a lot of cases.
 
 Teresa
 
 On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Christine and everyone.
> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid 
> of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
> 1. go into system preferences.
> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for 
> keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what 
> we're after at the moment.
> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the 
> keyboard shortcuts tab.
> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't 
> for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find 
> mission control shortcuts table.
> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with 
> the shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which 
> are either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the 
> state of the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, 
> you just can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and 
> shift-tabbing back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into 
> a strange table and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when 
> you're not interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see things like 
> application windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, 
> knowing which one this is, just interact, uncheck that box and your life 
> will be so much more peaceful.
> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
> VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. 
> Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
> some good.
> 
> Veronica
> 
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Organizing files and folders

[Veronica Elsea]

Hi everyone!
This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had for a 
long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my documents folder, 
I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all of the files in 
alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and folder names all 
mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort things so that I see 
folders first? Just curious. Thanks.

Veronica

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Re: Setting activities

[Alex Hall]

What do you mean by "you can't multi-sleect in the applications menu"? You can 
associate an activity with multiple applications, if you are saying this cannot 
be done.
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> interface, so I … hmmm.  Too bad you can't multi-select in the applications 
> menu.  
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Re: Organizing files and folders

[rashantha de silva]

Hi Veronica
There is no easy way to do this. I could probably write a script to do this and 
If I do I will post it.

You have to edit the InfoPlist.strings file of the Finder.app

It is located in HD > System > Library > Core services > Finder.app (show 
package contents) > Resources > InfoPlist.strings

You have to edit the text Finder = " Folder"; (add a space)

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> Hi everyone!
> This discussion of setting up folders reminded me of a question I've had for 
> a long time. Coming from the Windows world, when I'd go into my documents 
> folder, I was used to finding the folders listed first, then all of the files 
> in alphabetical order. It drives me crazy having the file and folder names 
> all mixed up together like this. Is there any way to sort things so that I 
> see folders first? Just curious. Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
> 
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Solution to Multiple Messages in Mail.app and a question about VIP's

[Garth Humphreys]

I love the way the gmail filters work and cannot imagine wanting to remove them 
in favor of local ones on my Mac. I just don't seem to have the problems some 
do. One thought, check if you have "show related messages " checked under mail 
viewing preferences. This will cause already deleted messages to show up in 
conversations.   

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On 09/08/2012, at 3:01, matthew Dyer  wrote:

Hi,  This is why I do not use filters in gmail as they just dobn't work likwe 
rthey shoul.d.

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Hi, guys,
> 
> For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple 
> Mail client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or even 
> if you don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated because 
> of Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an article just 
> now that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have successfully 
> applied it.
> 
> I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went into 
> settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play with it 
> to figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned with "Show 
> in iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in Mail.app which 
> says, "Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in mind, I am now going 
> to go and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a mailbox in Mail, and 
> hopefully this will clarify things.  I have no idea how that will affect 
> things -- if messages may be missed because they are then not pulled to the 
> mail client because of being tagged as "important," etc. and therefore may 
> not appear in my filtered list of messages, but it is definitely worth a try, 
> and I wanted to pass this tip along to others.  In other words, if it helps 
> clear up some confusion, all the better.  I was getting very tired of 
> duplicate messages.  They are probably still on Gmail's server, which I would 
> prefer they not be -- so maybe I should uncheck or just remove some of the 
> labels all together.  I'm not sure, and if anyone has thoughts on this, I'm 
> open to hearing them.
> 
> In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
> organized.
> 
> On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and how 
> that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be 
> notified of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the 
> notification arrives via notification center?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Harry
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