Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Anni.
What Braille printer do you have?
Best regards:
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Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:

> Hi Philippa.
> 
> I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they told 
> me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I have a lot 
> of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I have tried with 
> vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille solution to work that 
> way too.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft:
> 
>> hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know of a 
>> good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried Lewy and 
>> tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and lewy won't 
>> work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering if you have any 
>> reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. Philippa 
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Keyboard shortcuts

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,

in system preferences there is a possibility to create your own shortcuts for 
each program. That works fine. But only for commands without … (three dots) at 
the end. 

I remember once someone posted a solution for that but can't find it anymore. 

So can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts for commands in a menue like 
"Silents  …".

Thanks and all the best
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Dean Adams]

Hi Jurgen,
You can assign program short cuts by using the keyboard commanders in 
voice over utility and choose commanders and stop interacting and VO right 
arrow to keyboard and then VO Space bar and then VO right arrow to the check 
box that says use keyboard comanders and press Vo Space bar then Vo right arrow 
to the keyboard commanders table where you can assign quick keys to open your 
most used programs. You will find ones there for safari and mail by default the 
keyboard commanders uses the right option key then a key of your own choosing, 
but there are already some being used like s and the right option key for 
safari and m and the right option key for mail. First interact with the 
keyboard commanders table and check what keys are being used you can Vo up and 
down arrow to check which keys are already being used and to check which 
actions are being activated by VO right arrow to the action for each key so for 
example once you have interacted with the commanders table VO up and down arrow 
till it says the S key then VO right arrow till it says command open program 
safari, you can only use one key for each action. To add another action for two 
key press actions do the following.
Stop interacting with the keyboard commanders table and VO right arrow to the 
add button it will then automatically land you on the keyboard commanders table 
press the key you want to use like I use the letter e for text edit, then you 
have to interact with the keyboard commanders table where you have just put the 
e for text edit then make sure you are on the e in the table then VO right 
arrow to the next section which is command menu press VO Space bar and then VO 
down Arrow till it says custom commands VO right arrow it will say open program 
press VO Space bar then VO right arrow till you get to the browse area then 
interact and find text edit stop interacting and then VO right arrow to the 
Open default button and there you go you have created a two key short cut to 
text edit . So to go to text edit you only have to press the right option key 
and the E key . You can do this for as many times as you want but you can only 
use 1 letter for each operation . I have done this for skype text edit Vlc 
player mac mail and safari and DVD player.
Hope this is not to long winded .


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On 13/02/2012, at 9:43 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> in system preferences there is a possibility to create your own shortcuts for 
> each program. That works fine. But only for commands without … (three dots) 
> at the end. 
> 
> I remember once someone posted a solution for that but can't find it anymore. 
> 
> So can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts for commands in a menue like 
> "Silents  …".
> 
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
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Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Søren.

I have a 4*4 pro from indexbraille.
I will recommend the new braillebox, if you are going to get a braille printer.

Best regards Annie.

Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:16 AM skrev Søren Jensen:

> Hi Anni.
> What Braille printer do you have?
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
> 
> Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:
> 
>> Hi Philippa.
>> 
>> I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they told 
>> me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I have a 
>> lot of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I have tried 
>> with vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille solution to 
>> work that way too.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft:
>> 
>>> hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know of 
>>> a good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried Lewy and 
>>> tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and lewy won't 
>>> work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering if you have 
>>> any reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. Philippa 
>>> 
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Dean,

thanks for your detailed diskription. But I didn't meant the keyboard commander 
in VoiceOver.

What I'm looking for is the keyboard section in system preferences. There you 
have the possibility to create shortcuts for each command in a programs menue. 
Just look at it and try it out. It's wonderful.

But it's not possible to simply give a shortcut to a command with an elipsis at 
the end. So again:

Can anyone give me a hint how to create shortcuts for such commands in the 
menue?

I'm not sure about it but I think it might have been Esther who posted an 
information to that.

Thanks and all the best
Jürgen
Am 13.02.2012 um 12:19 schrieb Dean Adams:

> Hi Jurgen,
>   You can assign program short cuts by using the keyboard commanders in 
> voice over utility and choose commanders and stop interacting and VO right 
> arrow to keyboard and then VO Space bar and then VO right arrow to the check 
> box that says use keyboard comanders and press Vo Space bar then Vo right 
> arrow to the keyboard commanders table where you can assign quick keys to 
> open your most used programs. You will find ones there for safari and mail by 
> default the keyboard commanders uses the right option key then a key of your 
> own choosing, but there are already some being used like s and the right 
> option key for safari and m and the right option key for mail. First interact 
> with the keyboard commanders table and check what keys are being used you can 
> Vo up and down arrow to check which keys are already being used and to check 
> which actions are being activated by VO right arrow to the action for each 
> key so for example once you have interacted with the commanders table VO up 
> and down arrow till it says the S key then VO right arrow till it says 
> command open program safari, you can only use one key for each action. To add 
> another action for two key press actions do the following.
> Stop interacting with the keyboard commanders table and VO right arrow to the 
> add button it will then automatically land you on the keyboard commanders 
> table press the key you want to use like I use the letter e for text edit, 
> then you have to interact with the keyboard commanders table where you have 
> just put the e for text edit then make sure you are on the e in the table 
> then VO right arrow to the next section which is command menu press VO Space 
> bar and then VO down Arrow till it says custom commands VO right arrow it 
> will say open program press VO Space bar then VO right arrow till you get to 
> the browse area then interact and find text edit stop interacting and then VO 
> right arrow to the Open default button and there you go you have created a 
> two key short cut to text edit . So to go to text edit you only have to press 
> the right option key and the E key . You can do this for as many times as you 
> want but you can only use 1 letter for each operation . I have done this for 
> skype text edit Vlc player mac mail and safari and DVD player.
> Hope this is not to long winded .
> 
> 
> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
> breezepa...@gmail.com
> phone: 0243206031
> Mobile: 0428133758
> Skype : deanadams9
> 
> On 13/02/2012, at 9:43 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> in system preferences there is a possibility to create your own shortcuts 
>> for each program. That works fine. But only for commands without … (three 
>> dots) at the end. 
>> 
>> I remember once someone posted a solution for that but can't find it 
>> anymore. 
>> 
>> So can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts for commands in a menue like 
>> "Silents  …".
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
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What is the deal with Growl?

[Jennifer Perdue]

I got Growl this morning and did my best to set it up but it is very 
complicated.  I didn't ee where it asked you what you wanted to be notified 
about.  Can someone explain this please.  I want it to notify me about my Skype 
and twitter messages.  Is that possible?

Thanks in advance for your help and hope you all have a great day where you are.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

> Hi Dean,
> 
> thanks for your detailed diskription. But I didn't meant the keyboard 
> commander in VoiceOver.
> 
> What I'm looking for is the keyboard section in system preferences. There you 
> have the possibility to create shortcuts for each command in a programs 
> menue. Just look at it and try it out. It's wonderful.
> 
> But it's not possible to simply give a shortcut to a command with an elipsis 
> at the end. So again:
> 
> Can anyone give me a hint how to create shortcuts for such commands in the 
> menue?
> 
> I'm not sure about it but I think it might have been Esther who posted an 
> information to that.
> 
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> Am 13.02.2012 um 12:19 schrieb Dean Adams:
> 
>> Hi Jurgen,
>>  You can assign program short cuts by using the keyboard commanders in 
>> voice over utility and choose commanders and stop interacting and VO right 
>> arrow to keyboard and then VO Space bar and then VO right arrow to the check 
>> box that says use keyboard comanders and press Vo Space bar then Vo right 
>> arrow to the keyboard commanders table where you can assign quick keys to 
>> open your most used programs. You will find ones there for safari and mail 
>> by default the keyboard commanders uses the right option key then a key of 
>> your own choosing, but there are already some being used like s and the 
>> right option key for safari and m and the right option key for mail. First 
>> interact with the keyboard commanders table and check what keys are being 
>> used you can Vo up and down arrow to check which keys are already being used 
>> and to check which actions are being activated by VO right arrow to the 
>> action for each key so for example once you have interacted with the 
>> commanders table VO up and down arrow till it says the S key then VO right 
>> arrow till it says command open program safari, you can only use one key for 
>> each action. To add another action for two key press actions do the 
>> following.
>> Stop interacting with the keyboard commanders table and VO right arrow to 
>> the add button it will then automatically land you on the keyboard 
>> commanders table press the key you want to use like I use the letter e for 
>> text edit, then you have to interact with the keyboard commanders table 
>> where you have just put the e for text edit then make sure you are on the e 
>> in the table then VO right arrow to the next section which is command menu 
>> press VO Space bar and then VO down Arrow till it says custom commands VO 
>> right arrow it will say open program press VO Space bar then VO right arrow 
>> till you get to the browse area then interact and find text edit stop 
>> interacting and then VO right arrow to the Open default button and there you 
>> go you have created a two key short cut to text edit . So to go to text edit 
>> you only have to press the right option key and the E key . You can do this 
>> for as many times as you want but you can only use 1 letter for each 
>> operation . I have done this for skype text edit Vlc player mac mail and 
>> safari and DVD player.
>> Hope this is not to long winded .
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
>> breezepa...@gmail.com
>> phone: 0243206031
>> Mobile: 0428133758
>> Skype : deanadams9
>> 
>> On 13/02/2012, at 9:43 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> in system preferences there is a possibility to create your own shortcuts 
>>> for each program. That works fine. But only for commands without … (three 
>>> dots) at the end. 
>>> 
>>> I remember once someone posted a solution for that but can't find it 
>>> anymore. 
>>> 
>>> So can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts for commands in a menue like 
>>> "Silents  …".
>>> 
>>> Thanks and all the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
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Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?

[Søren Jensen]

Does your printer have any USB connection? I hear that the serial adapters 
doesn't work well. Otherwise I don't know how to connect the device to your 
Mac. If it does have any usb connection, I might have a solution for you which 
works in Windows.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
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Website:
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Den 13/02/2012 kl. 12.59 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:

> Hi Søren.
> 
> I have a 4*4 pro from indexbraille.
> I will recommend the new braillebox, if you are going to get a braille 
> printer.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> 
> Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:16 AM skrev Søren Jensen:
> 
>> Hi Anni.
>> What Braille printer do you have?
>> Best regards:
>> Søren Jensen
>> Mail & MSN:
>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
>> Website:
>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>> 
>> Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:
>> 
>>> Hi Philippa.
>>> 
>>> I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they told 
>>> me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I have a 
>>> lot of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I have 
>>> tried with vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille solution 
>>> to work that way too.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft:
>>> 
 hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know of 
 a good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried Lewy and 
 tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and lewy won't 
 work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering if you have 
 any reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. Philippa 
 
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PDFPEN

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Scott. 
I just got this really good message from PDFPEN. The support person tested an 
IRS form with VoiceOver, and he got it to work. So, I guess I'm doing something 
wrong. I sent to him a message saying it wasn't working for me, and I put my 
phone number on it. If i get it to work, I'll et you guys know because if what 
he said is right, then this program is a great thing for us. I'll keep you guys 
informed about this because the guy seems to know what he's doing because for 
one thing, he tested the right type of form to start with. These forms he 
tested do work under Windows. 

Regards, 
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Esther]

[[rate 300]]Hi Jürgen and Others,

The ellipsis character is typed using a keyboard shortcut with the Option key.  
On a US or other English language input keyboard, this combination can be typed 
by pressing Option+semi-colon.  Assuming that you are using a German input 
language keyboard, this combination can be typed by pressing Option+period. 

However, a more general way to get the exact menu command you need for a 
keyboard shortcut is to use VO-Shift-C, which is the VoiceOver shortcut to copy 
the last spoken phrase to the clipboard.  Then paste in this phrase with 
Command-V.  I usually paste into a TextEdit window as an intermediate step to 
check the copied phrase, but you don't need to do this.

So as an example, navigate to the Apple menu on the menu bar with VO-M or 
Control-F2, arrow down to "Software Update …", or any menu item that is 
announced with "ellipsis" at the end, use VO-Shift-C to copy the phrase, then 
paste it into a TextEdit window.  If you press Command-Left arrow to move your 
insertion point cursor to the beginning of the line, then hold down the Shift 
key to select, and start tapping with the Right arrow key, you'll hear 
VoiceOver announce the characters one by one as you select them, until you get 
to the final ellipsis.  At this point you can use Command-V again to copy your 
highlighted phrase, and paste it into the "Menu title" text field of the 
Keyboard Shortcuts pane of System Preferences.  

For Jürgen's question, I'll assume that he has the Skype application as one of 
his active apps. Then he could define a shortcut as follows:

1. VO-M or Control-F2 to the Apple Menu, and arrow down to System Preferences
2. Navigate to the Keyboard menu and select the Keyboard Shortcuts tab 
3. Navigate to the "Shortcuts Categories" table and interact, then select 
"Application Shortcuts" and stop interacting
4. Navigate to the "Add an application shortcut" button and press it (VO-Space)
5. In the dialog window, VO-Space on the "All Appliciations" pop up button and 
set the application to "Skype".
6. Command-tab to switch to Skype in order to navigate to the menu bar, arrow 
down to the command you want that ends in "ellipsis", and use VO-Shift-C to 
copy the phrase to the clipboard; then press escape to dismiss the menu and 
Command-tab back to your System Preferences dialog window.
7. Paste the menu command into the "Menu Title" text box with Command-V
8. Navigate to the Keyboard Shortcut text box and type in the shortcut 
combination you want to use.
9. Press (VO-Space) the "Add" button to exit the dialog window.
10. Command-W to close the System Preferences window.

Incidentally, I found a reference to setting up a "Call with Skype" service at 
this web page:
• “Call With Skype” Service for Mac OSX (September 6, 2011):
http://paulmaiorana.com/notes/2011/09/call-with-skype/

Haven't tried this, but from the description the author put together a Service 
option using Automator so that he could highlight a phone number from any 
application (e.g., a mail message, or a contact in your Address Book), select 
"Call with Skype" as a Services menu option from that application's menu bar 
services, and have that  number dialed without having to paste it into the dial 
pad.  For Lion users, you don't need to use the command line of Terminal to put 
the "Call with Skype" file into the ~/Library/Services/  folder.  From FInder, 
use the Command-Shift-G "Go to folder" shortcut, and then type or paste in:
~/Library/Services/
into the dialog window to navigate to this folder.  You can also get the 
freeware Tinker Tool application from:
http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html
This application lets you unhide your Services and Preferences libraries, and 
configure other settings to your liking.

You should also be able to set up a Services menu shortcut similar to the 
method outlined above for setting an Application shortcut.  One of the nice 
features of Services is that they show up in the menu options of all 
applications.  In most instances, your Service menu options won't appear until 
you select some item for the Service to operate upon.  For example,  if I 
wanted to save the instructions in this post as an audio track in iTunes, I 
could select the text in this message, then navigate to the Services menu of my 
current application, Mail, by using either VO-M or Control-F2 to move to the 
menu bar, right arrow to the application, down arrow to its menu, press "s" to 
move to "Services", then right arrow to the submenu  to select "Add to iTunes 
as Spoken Track". (In actuality, if I wanted to do this I would insert the 
unspoken control characters for speeding up the speech rate at the beginning of 
my selection. such as "rate 300" (without quotes) surrounded by a double set of 
brackets like this:
[[rate 300]]
Then the audio track for the selection will be spoken at the specified rate 
when saved as a spoken track in your music library.)
If you want define a Services menu shortc

Bookmarks in Safari Not Showing

[Brandon Olivares]

Hi,

In Safari, I can press command+option+B to get the bookmarks. However, for some 
reason, I only get the search field, and not the table itself listing the 
bookmarks. Only the sidebar with the categories, and the search field, show up.

I've tried using the splitters. The horizontal splitter only says "collapsed" 
inside of it, and it won't expand.

Has anyone else had this problem? What can I do about it?

Brandon

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Re: Keyboard shortcuts

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

open the app and find the menu item you want to make a shortcut for then, when 
you've navigated to the option in the menu, press VO shift C to copy last 
phrase to clipboard.  Now you can set up your shortcut in preferences by 
pasting the name of the item in the menu bar.

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On Feb 13, 2012, at 7:26 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

> Hi Dean,
> 
> thanks for your detailed diskription. But I didn't meant the keyboard 
> commander in VoiceOver.
> 
> What I'm looking for is the keyboard section in system preferences. There you 
> have the possibility to create shortcuts for each command in a programs 
> menue. Just look at it and try it out. It's wonderful.
> 
> But it's not possible to simply give a shortcut to a command with an elipsis 
> at the end. So again:
> 
> Can anyone give me a hint how to create shortcuts for such commands in the 
> menue?
> 
> I'm not sure about it but I think it might have been Esther who posted an 
> information to that.
> 
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> Am 13.02.2012 um 12:19 schrieb Dean Adams:
> 
>> Hi Jurgen,
>>  You can assign program short cuts by using the keyboard commanders in 
>> voice over utility and choose commanders and stop interacting and VO right 
>> arrow to keyboard and then VO Space bar and then VO right arrow to the check 
>> box that says use keyboard comanders and press Vo Space bar then Vo right 
>> arrow to the keyboard commanders table where you can assign quick keys to 
>> open your most used programs. You will find ones there for safari and mail 
>> by default the keyboard commanders uses the right option key then a key of 
>> your own choosing, but there are already some being used like s and the 
>> right option key for safari and m and the right option key for mail. First 
>> interact with the keyboard commanders table and check what keys are being 
>> used you can Vo up and down arrow to check which keys are already being used 
>> and to check which actions are being activated by VO right arrow to the 
>> action for each key so for example once you have interacted with the 
>> commanders table VO up and down arrow till it says the S key then VO right 
>> arrow till it says command open program safari, you can only use one key for 
>> each action. To add another action for two key press actions do the 
>> following.
>> Stop interacting with the keyboard commanders table and VO right arrow to 
>> the add button it will then automatically land you on the keyboard 
>> commanders table press the key you want to use like I use the letter e for 
>> text edit, then you have to interact with the keyboard commanders table 
>> where you have just put the e for text edit then make sure you are on the e 
>> in the table then VO right arrow to the next section which is command menu 
>> press VO Space bar and then VO down Arrow till it says custom commands VO 
>> right arrow it will say open program press VO Space bar then VO right arrow 
>> till you get to the browse area then interact and find text edit stop 
>> interacting and then VO right arrow to the Open default button and there you 
>> go you have created a two key short cut to text edit . So to go to text edit 
>> you only have to press the right option key and the E key . You can do this 
>> for as many times as you want but you can only use 1 letter for each 
>> operation . I have done this for skype text edit Vlc player mac mail and 
>> safari and DVD player.
>> Hope this is not to long winded .
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro
>> breezepa...@gmail.com
>> phone: 0243206031
>> Mobile: 0428133758
>> Skype : deanadams9
>> 
>> On 13/02/2012, at 9:43 PM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> in system preferences there is a possibility to create your own shortcuts 
>>> for each program. That works fine. But only for commands without … (three 
>>> dots) at the end. 
>>> 
>>> I remember once someone posted a solution for that but can't find it 
>>> anymore. 
>>> 
>>> So can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts for commands in a menue like 
>>> "Silents  …".
>>> 
>>> Thanks and all the best
>>> Jürgen
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Re: What is the deal with Growl?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Both Skype and Twitter can notify you of messages through Growl, but those 
notifications are set up in the Preferences panel of both apps, not through 
Growl.  In both Skype and Syrinx, open Preferences and look for a section 
called "notifications." in Skype, or "growl," in Syrinx.


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Re: Possible bug in Lion

[Chris Blouch]

What kind of TV tuner USB stick are you using? I know the Elgato eyetv 
hybrid has a small (6") usb extender cable so it's not right up next the 
computer and blocking the other ports.


CB

On 2/12/12 10:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Yes, mini has four usb ports, so keyboard, mouse, tv tuner card, USB 
harddrive, Superdrive, oops, that's five. Seven, if you count the fact 
theTV card  won't work without a direct connection and it blocks two 
ports because they designed it for the laptops, not the mini.  Sigh, I 
am really getting sick of a lot of Apple's s&**t.


Major problem for six months they can't solve, now they don't even 
acknowledge me.


*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Kilburn

*Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:38 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Possible bug in Lion

Hi,

I believe that Apple discourages connecting keyboards through USB 
hubs.  In the past, such a configuration could actually cause 
significant erratic behaviour and sometimes other very undesirable OS 
difficulties.  This was years ago so it's possible that things have 
changed but I would recommend that you always leave the keyboard 
connected directly and use the USB hub for non-essential devices.


Later...

On 2012-02-12, at 7:09 PM, Bill Holton wrote:



Hi.

To save precious USB connections on my Mac Mini I used a usb hub to 
connect both my mouse and my PC style keyboard to my Mini.  Both the 
mouse and keyboard work fine in this configuration, the only problem 
is every time I restart the  computer  I have to remap the Windows/Alt 
keys to the Option/command layout that is more traditional because 
Lion seems to be losing these settings.


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RE: Possible bug in Lion

[Bill Holton]

The hybrid, it doesn't always work when connected to an extender cable, the
advantage, I can get TV on my iPhone.

Are you using the EyeTV software?  I have some questions about that
software.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Lion

 

What kind of TV tuner USB stick are you using? I know the Elgato eyetv
hybrid has a small (6") usb extender cable so it's not right up next the
computer and blocking the other ports.

CB

On 2/12/12 10:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote: 

Yes, mini has four usb ports, so keyboard, mouse, tv tuner card, USB
harddrive, Superdrive, oops, that's five. Seven, if you count the fact theTV
card  won't work without a direct connection and it blocks two ports because
they designed it for the laptops, not the mini.  Sigh, I am really getting
sick of a lot of Apple's s&**t.

Major problem for six months they can't solve, now they don't even
acknowledge me.

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Lion

 

Hi,

 

I believe that Apple discourages connecting keyboards through USB hubs.  In
the past, such a configuration could actually cause significant erratic
behaviour and sometimes other very undesirable OS difficulties.  This was
years ago so it's possible that things have changed but I would recommend
that you always leave the keyboard connected directly and use the USB hub
for non-essential devices.

 

Later...

 

On 2012-02-12, at 7:09 PM, Bill Holton wrote:






Hi.

To save precious USB connections on my Mac Mini I used a usb hub to connect
both my mouse and my PC style keyboard to my Mini.  Both the mouse and
keyboard work fine in this configuration, the only problem is every time I
restart the  computer  I have to remap the Windows/Alt keys to the
Option/command layout that is more traditional because Lion seems to be
losing these settings.

 

 

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Re: Possible bug in Lion

[Chris Blouch]

I haven't found the eyeTV software accessible with voiceover, if that's 
what you were going to ask about, although I'd be willing to give it 
another go if you've been able to get anywhere with it. Never had any 
trouble with the stubby USB cable. Did have lots of trouble using rabbit 
ears and such which all went away when I got a 'real' antenna for $30 
and put it in the attic.


CB

On 2/13/12 11:37 AM, Bill Holton wrote:


The hybrid, it doesn't always work when connected to an extender 
cable, the advantage, I can get TV on my iPhone.


Are you using the EyeTV software?  I have some questions about that 
software.


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Blouch

*Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 11:29 AM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Possible bug in Lion

What kind of TV tuner USB stick are you using? I know the Elgato eyetv 
hybrid has a small (6") usb extender cable so it's not right up next 
the computer and blocking the other ports.


CB

On 2/12/12 10:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Yes, mini has four usb ports, so keyboard, mouse, tv tuner card, USB 
harddrive, Superdrive, oops, that's five. Seven, if you count the fact 
theTV card  won't work without a direct connection and it blocks two 
ports because they designed it for the laptops, not the mini.  Sigh, I 
am really getting sick of a lot of Apple's s&**t.


Major problem for six months they can't solve, now they don't even 
acknowledge me.


*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Kilburn

*Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:38 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 


*Subject:* Re: Possible bug in Lion

Hi,

I believe that Apple discourages connecting keyboards through USB 
hubs.  In the past, such a configuration could actually cause 
significant erratic behaviour and sometimes other very undesirable OS 
difficulties.  This was years ago so it's possible that things have 
changed but I would recommend that you always leave the keyboard 
connected directly and use the USB hub for non-essential devices.


Later...

On 2012-02-12, at 7:09 PM, Bill Holton wrote:




Hi.

To save precious USB connections on my Mac Mini I used a usb hub to 
connect both my mouse and my PC style keyboard to my Mini.  Both the 
mouse and keyboard work fine in this configuration, the only problem 
is every time I restart the  computer  I have to remap the Windows/Alt 
keys to the Option/command layout that is more traditional because 
Lion seems to be losing these settings.


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Re: Bookmarks in Safari Not Showing

[Esther]

Hi Brandon,

Scott Howell posted a solution for this a few weeks ago in response to a 
question from Mary Otten.  I'll paste it in below.  I haven't encountered this 
problem yet myself, but I would guess that it's specific to Safari 5.1 or Lion, 
or the combination.  Another thing that it occurs to me to try is quitting 
Safari, then using Finder to go to the ~/Library/Preferences folder under your 
account using the Command-Shift-G "Go to folder shortcut", and delete the 
com.apple.Safari.plist file.  Relaunching Safari should go back to the default 
new configuration.

Scott's post:
Mary,

THis is a strange one, but here is the solution. SInce you already can get to 
the table with the bookmarks etc. I won't cover that. So, once you have 
selected the set of bookmarks from the table:
1. Navigate past the vertical splitter and the search field.
2. When you encounter the horizontal splitter interact with it and navigate to 
the right. THe idea is to hear it say "Zero percent".

At this point Safari may go busy on you and my advice is to simply toggle VO 
off/on and that should resolve the problem. Then you should be able to find the 
table with the individual bookmarks. Unfortunately I have not found a way to 
keep the table expanded, so you have to use this method until someone can 
figure out how to fix the issue. :) Of course put a bug in Apple's ear at 
accessibil...@apple.com, so they know this is really annoying.

Scott

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> In Safari, I can press command+option+B to get the bookmarks. However, for 
> some reason, I only get the search field, and not the table itself listing 
> the bookmarks. Only the sidebar with the categories, and the search field, 
> show up.
> 
> I've tried using the splitters. The horizontal splitter only says "collapsed" 
> inside of it, and it won't expand.
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem? What can I do about it?
> 
> Brandon
> 

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EyeTV, was RE: Possible bug in Lion

[Bill Holton]

The EyeTV app sort of works on the iPhone.  I can pick channels and it will
play them.  Also, on the main Mac software I can type in a channel number,
but haven't been able to figure out to make favorites, record and duch.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:54 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Lion

 

I haven't found the eyeTV software accessible with voiceover, if that's what
you were going to ask about, although I'd be willing to give it another go
if you've been able to get anywhere with it. Never had any trouble with the
stubby USB cable. Did have lots of trouble using rabbit ears and such which
all went away when I got a 'real' antenna for $30 and put it in the attic.

CB

On 2/13/12 11:37 AM, Bill Holton wrote: 

The hybrid, it doesn't always work when connected to an extender cable, the
advantage, I can get TV on my iPhone.

Are you using the EyeTV software?  I have some questions about that
software.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 11:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Lion

 

What kind of TV tuner USB stick are you using? I know the Elgato eyetv
hybrid has a small (6") usb extender cable so it's not right up next the
computer and blocking the other ports.

CB

On 2/12/12 10:42 PM, Bill Holton wrote: 

Yes, mini has four usb ports, so keyboard, mouse, tv tuner card, USB
harddrive, Superdrive, oops, that's five. Seven, if you count the fact theTV
card  won't work without a direct connection and it blocks two ports because
they designed it for the laptops, not the mini.  Sigh, I am really getting
sick of a lot of Apple's s&**t.

Major problem for six months they can't solve, now they don't even
acknowledge me.

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Lion

 

Hi,

 

I believe that Apple discourages connecting keyboards through USB hubs.  In
the past, such a configuration could actually cause significant erratic
behaviour and sometimes other very undesirable OS difficulties.  This was
years ago so it's possible that things have changed but I would recommend
that you always leave the keyboard connected directly and use the USB hub
for non-essential devices.

 

Later...

 

On 2012-02-12, at 7:09 PM, Bill Holton wrote:







Hi.

To save precious USB connections on my Mac Mini I used a usb hub to connect
both my mouse and my PC style keyboard to my Mini.  Both the mouse and
keyboard work fine in this configuration, the only problem is every time I
restart the  computer  I have to remap the Windows/Alt keys to the
Option/command layout that is more traditional because Lion seems to be
losing these settings.

 

 

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Re: Braille editing/translation software for Mac?

[Philippa Woodcraft]

I hope there is an easy solution to this problem. i have thought about
doing the VM fusion option, but prism i'd have to put jaws or some
such thing on the windows bit, and i'm not keen on doing that just for
1 program. my embosser is old, but works! its got one of those serial
to USB adapters. its all installed i just have no software to
translate or emboss with. any ideas? tried lewy and iBraille. do
duxbury do anything for mac? many thanks. Philippa

On Feb 13, 1:45 pm, Søren Jensen  wrote:
> Does your printer have any USB connection? I hear that the serial adapters 
> doesn't work well. Otherwise I don't know how to connect the device to your 
> Mac. If it does have any usb connection, I might have a solution for you 
> which works in Windows.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>
> Den 13/02/2012 kl. 12.59 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Søren.
>
> > I have a 4*4 pro from indexbraille.
> > I will recommend the new braillebox, if you are going to get a braille 
> > printer.
>
> > Best regards Annie.
>
> > Den Feb 13, 2012 kl. 9:16 AM skrev Søren Jensen:
>
> >> Hi Anni.
> >> What Braille printer do you have?
> >> Best regards:
> >> Søren Jensen
> >> Mail & MSN:
> >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> >> Website:
> >>http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
>
> >> Den 12/02/2012 kl. 00.21 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen:
>
> >>> Hi Philippa.
>
> >>> I am having the same question. I have contacted indexbraille, and they 
> >>> told me, that there hopefully would be a solution in about six month. I 
> >>> have a lot of problems with my braille printer. I only have a mac now. I 
> >>> have tried with vmware running windows, , but I can not get any braille 
> >>> solution to work that way too.
>
> >>> Best regards Annie.
> >>> Den Feb 11, 2012 kl. 5:17 PM skrev Philippa Woodcraft:
>
>  hi. sorry if this question has already been asked, but does anyone know 
>  of a good braille translating/editing software for Mac? i have tried 
>  Lewy and tried to download iBraille but niether are very up to date and 
>  lewy won't work. i am running Lion on a MacBook Air. was just wondering 
>  if you have any reckomendations and what you all use? many thanks. 
>  Philippa
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Re: Problems with new extended keyboard

[Chris Blouch]

I don't have one of those but usually many of the F keys are mapped to 
OSX behaviors so keys like F7 -F10 are mapped to back, play/pause, 
forward and mute. On laptops there is a fn key which lets me really do 
an F7 instead of the OSX function but I'm not sure if the big Apple USB 
extended keyboard has this.


CB

On 2/11/12 8:19 AM, Frank Tom wrote:

My friend just bought  a 21.5 inch I Mac with extended USB keyboard. In key 
describer mode, the f1 through f4 and F7 and F8 keys do not work.  Is there  a 
special key combination to enable these function keys or did he just get a bad 
keyboard?

Thanks.

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Re: What is the deal with Growl?

[Jennifer Perdue]

Thanks I'll start looking for them now.

Jenny and my goofy and stressed out guide Brooks
On Feb 13, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> Both Skype and Twitter can notify you of messages through Growl, but those 
> notifications are set up in the Preferences panel of both apps, not through 
> Growl.  In both Skype and Syrinx, open Preferences and look for a section 
> called "notifications." in Skype, or "growl," in Syrinx.
> 
> 
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> • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
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Re: PDFPEN

[Scott Howell]

Yes please do I am trying to carve some time out of my schedule to give the 
program a good going over so I can report something back to them.

On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

> Hi Scott. 
> I just got this really good message from PDFPEN. The support person tested an 
> IRS form with VoiceOver, and he got it to work. So, I guess I'm doing 
> something wrong. I sent to him a message saying it wasn't working for me, and 
> I put my phone number on it. If i get it to work, I'll et you guys know 
> because if what he said is right, then this program is a great thing for us. 
> I'll keep you guys informed about this because the guy seems to know what 
> he's doing because for one thing, he tested the right type of form to start 
> with. These forms he tested do work under Windows. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
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Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!

[Steve Holmes]

So assuming I have to get a way to fake out my Mac Mini in thinking
there is a monitor connected, is there any way to use Dropbox on this
box until I can find the necessary hardware? I find it amazing that
that app alone would cause the Finder to go into the mud and get
"busy" all the time no matter what folder I try and go into.
Reminder: as soon as I kill or disable dropbox from running, it gets
all good again.

Any other ideas?

On 2/12/12, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> I just installed Dropbox this afternoon on my new mac mini.  I thought
> it installed OK and it even synced up my files from the host but now I
> constantly get "Finder busy" all the time whenever I open *ANY* window
> in the finder! At this point, the Finder is completely useless while
> the Dropbox app is running.  If I go into my login preferences and
> remove Dropbox from the startup list and log back in, I can use the
> finder like always.  As soon as I launch Dropbox from the
> applications folder or allow it to run at login, Finder goes to hell
> in a handbag!
>
> Has anyone else experienced thins kind of thing?
>
> Note, I am using a mac mini without a monitor connected.  I surely
> hope this isn't also going to be a problem like the auto starting of
> VO when no monitor is connected.
>
> Hey, I really want to use Dropbox but this performance hit is a show
> stopper for me.
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Re: Super frustrated trying to read table

[Steve Holmes]

Sorry for butting in here but I think she has an outstanding delivery
already in the system and she is trying to modify that.  If I'm right,
there would be no shopping cart involved.  Christine, am I
interpreting this correctly?

Esther, I really appreciate your detailed explanations I've been
seeing on the lists.  I'm quite new to the Mac so this bit about the
item chooser was most informative to me.

On 2/12/12, Esther  wrote:
> Hi Christine,
> What I found for the tassimo site is that when you add an item to your cart,
> there is a "Just added to your cart" window that comes up that only contains
> details about the item you just added.  It doesn't show up as a second
> window if you check with window chooser menu (VO-F2). So if there are other
> items in your cart that you are trying to remove, you won't be able to view
> them until you use one of the buttons associated with that window to exit
> it.  The only clue that this window is up is that VoiceOver says "Close"
> just after announcing "Just added to your cart" once you press the button to
> add an item to your cart. This is why I used item chooser menu to try to
> navigate to other elements in that window -- specifically, to try to at
> least close it.  Typing "just" after using VO-I lists items which include
> "Just added to your cart".  Continuing by typing "but" after that refines
> that list to give you the items that are buttons for the "Just added to the
> cart" window.
>
> If you want to get to the full cart, you need to navigate to the "Just added
> to your cart, checkout button" and press it (VO-Space).  Can you find a
> button like that on your screen?  Until you press that button you will not
> be able to view or modify any items in your shopping cart apart from the
> item you just added to your cart.  Pressing that button should take you to
> the screen with the full shopping cart contents.  You should be able to
> navigate the table and check boxes to remove items that you don't want.  The
> total may update correctly if you simply remove items.  However, if you
> change the quantity of items in the table for the full shopping cart, you
> won't be able to get them to update unless you press the unlabeled button
> for updating the shopping cart.  It will be on the row of the table after
> your last shopping cart item, and VoiceOver will says something about "spans
> 5 columns button column 1" after announcing the row.
>
> HTH.  By the way, I didn't check by changing my settings, but I'm using DOM
> mode and have set all my cursors tracking, and have mouse moves VoiceOver
> cursor under the navigation options of VoiceOver utility.  This isn't my
> usual set up -- especially the mouse moves VO cursor.  I just got through
> checking the "Find My iPhone" page under Safari 5.1.2 so was trying
> different settings to improve the navigation experience.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>
>> Hi, Esther. Thanks so much for so quickly checking this out for me. The
>> thing is, I've already got an auto-delivery set up, and I managed to add
>> to it, but want to get rid of something that has been there from the
>> beginning, and I can't even find the product listed anywhere to try to put
>> "zero) or simply entty the quantity. I've written to them, but of course,
>> not a peep yet. It's enough to make one switch to Kurig. :)
>> On Feb 11, 2012, at 10:39 PM, Esther wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Christine,
>>>
>>> I tried out that site with Safari 5.1.2 (part of my very recent upgrade
>>> to Lion).  Here are a few observations.  If you are selecting Auto
>>> Delivery, start out by selecting the quantity on the product page, where
>>> you can check availability, select the radio button for auto delivery,
>>> and set the quantity before you press the button to add to cart.  When
>>> you press the button to add to your cart, you'll hear VoiceOver say "Just
>>> added to your cart" "Close".  This is a window that comes up that
>>> overlays your screen.  If you use item chooser menu (VO-I), and first
>>> type "just" then type "but", you'll get "Just added to your cart, close
>>> button", "Just added to your cart, checkout button", and "Just added to
>>> your cart, continue shopping button".  Choose one of these options.  If
>>> you use the checkout button, you should be able to navigate the table of
>>> your order.  However,  I tried putting sample product in the cart with
>>> default quantity of 1, set the radio button to auto delivery, then got a
>>> message that auto delivery required at least a quantity of 2.  Then I
>>> tried updating the quantity within the table.  I finally managed to do
>>> this, but there's a problem because the button to update the changes you
>>> make to quantity is not labeled.  After the last row of your order,
>>> you'll hear voice over say something like "row 4 PRODUCT spans 5 columns
>>> button column 1".  That unlabeled button turns out to be the one that you
>>> need to press to updat

VoiceOver and Braille support

[chris hallsworth]

I am quite impressed with how Braille works on an iOS device. According 
to a Skype conference I just had, you can not only read what's on the 
screen in grade 2 Braille; you can even type text in grade 2 Braille and 
it translates very well. This is on a Focus 40 Blue and an iPhone 4s. I 
think this might be a good combination since the Focus 40 Blue is the 
cheapest Braille display that I know of with 40 cells, bluetooth and USB 
connectivity and a perkins style keyboard.

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Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.

[Mike Arrigo]

Any usb keyboard will work, even a windows keyboard, so you should base it more 
on what is easiest to type on, in general, any keyboard should work.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Frank Tom wrote:

> I didn't get a response to  what's wrong with the extended keyboard my friend 
> got, so, I will ask another question.
> 
> What is the best extended keyboard out there, either wireless or usb, for the 
> blind mac user.
> 
> I personally like the bluetooth keyboard that came with my five year old I 
> Mac.  Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make this one any more.
> 
> He needs something with some heft to it so it gives good, tactile feedback. 
> To help myself, I stick little bumpers on the G and H keys and the F4 and F8 
> keys to make finding the home row easier. 
> 
> What do you use?
> 
> Tom 
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Re: Problems with new extended keyboard

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The Apple Full-Size USB keyboard has the FN key where the Insert key is 
normally placed on a Windows keyboard, so you have the same functionality, just 
not as easily manipulated in some multi-key combinations.

Later...

On 2012-02-13, at 1:44 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> I don't have one of those but usually many of the F keys are mapped to OSX 
> behaviors so keys like F7 -F10 are mapped to back, play/pause, forward and 
> mute. On laptops there is a fn key which lets me really do an F7 instead of 
> the OSX function but I'm not sure if the big Apple USB extended keyboard has 
> this.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/11/12 8:19 AM, Frank Tom wrote:
>> My friend just bought  a 21.5 inch I Mac with extended USB keyboard. In key 
>> describer mode, the f1 through f4 and F7 and F8 keys do not work.  Is there  
>> a special key combination to enable these function keys or did he just get a 
>> bad keyboard?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tom Frank
>> 
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Mastercard secure code and the Visa ones when paying on webpages

[Kirsten Edmondson]

Hi all, 
Is it possible to use the verified by Visa or Mastercard Secure Code security 
systems on webpages? I'm having trouble using my mac on the Tesco.com groceries 
website and can't get past the mastercard secure code page, I can't find the 
edit box to put in the password and though I have it set to form elements it 
doesn't find it, just trying to type in my code makes it return to the checkout 
page. Of course, it could just be something up with the said page, but I'm 
worried that it's a mac thing, how do we get around this? Loads of websites 
have it, but I have to say, I haven't come across it til now. 
Thanks. 
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Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!

[Mike Arrigo]

Do you have the mac mini connected to a monitor, if not, it may cause this kind 
of behavior, the monitor does not need to be turned on, just connected.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I just installed Dropbox this afternoon on my new mac mini.  I thought
> it installed OK and it even synced up my files from the host but now I
> constantly get "Finder busy" all the time whenever I open *ANY* window
> in the finder! At this point, the Finder is completely useless while
> the Dropbox app is running.  If I go into my login preferences and
> remove Dropbox from the startup list and log back in, I can use the
> finder like always.  As soon as I launch Dropbox from the
> applications folder or allow it to run at login, Finder goes to hell
> in a handbag!
> 
> Has anyone else experienced thins kind of thing? 
> 
> Note, I am using a mac mini without a monitor connected.  I surely
> hope this isn't also going to be a problem like the auto starting of
> VO when no monitor is connected.
> 
> Hey, I really want to use Dropbox but this performance hit is a show
> stopper for me.
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Re: Possible bug in Lion

[Mike Arrigo]

This is normal on windows keyboards, the command and option keys will be 
reversed, unless you need to use the mouse you could probably disconnect it.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

> Hi.
> To save precious USB connections on my Mac Mini I used a usb hub to connect 
> both my mouse and my PC style keyboard to my Mini.  Both the mouse and 
> keyboard work fine in this configuration, the only problem is every time I 
> restart the  computer  I have to remap the Windows/Alt keys to the 
> Option/command layout that is more traditional because Lion seems to be 
> losing these settings.
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Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.

[Jennifer Perdue]

Hi Mike,

How are you?  I'm Jennifer Perdue from System Access.  Do you remember me?  I 
asked you this before but I had to delete a bunch of mail so I'm not sure if I 
got a reply.  I'm the girl the won the snowflake microphone a few years back.  
I switched from the PC to the Mac in June and it's been a slow and argues 
process but I'm learning thanks to this list and a few friends I've met on it.  

Hope things with you are going well.  I don't get on SA anymore because I am 
not under the impression it will work with the Mac but I could and probably am 
wrong.  Tell everyone like Ricki and so forth that I said hello.  I don't have 
her contact information anymore because my phone ate it.  We went to guide dog 
school together.  

Write back soon.

Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Any usb keyboard will work, even a windows keyboard, so you should base it 
> more on what is easiest to type on, in general, any keyboard should work.
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Frank Tom wrote:
> 
>> I didn't get a response to  what's wrong with the extended keyboard my 
>> friend got, so, I will ask another question.
>> 
>> What is the best extended keyboard out there, either wireless or usb, for 
>> the blind mac user.
>> 
>> I personally like the bluetooth keyboard that came with my five year old I 
>> Mac.  Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make this one any more.
>> 
>> He needs something with some heft to it so it gives good, tactile feedback. 
>> To help myself, I stick little bumpers on the G and H keys and the F4 and F8 
>> keys to make finding the home row easier. 
>> 
>> What do you use?
>> 
>> Tom 
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Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I have a Microsoft MK wireless keyboard. Has nice wrist support.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Any usb keyboard will work, even a windows keyboard, so you should base it 
> more on what is easiest to type on, in general, any keyboard should work.
> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Frank Tom wrote:
> 
>> I didn't get a response to  what's wrong with the extended keyboard my 
>> friend got, so, I will ask another question.
>> 
>> What is the best extended keyboard out there, either wireless or usb, for 
>> the blind mac user.
>> 
>> I personally like the bluetooth keyboard that came with my five year old I 
>> Mac.  Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make this one any more.
>> 
>> He needs something with some heft to it so it gives good, tactile feedback. 
>> To help myself, I stick little bumpers on the G and H keys and the F4 and F8 
>> keys to make finding the home row easier. 
>> 
>> What do you use?
>> 
>> Tom 
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Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.

[Brandon Misch]

actually if you use chrome and go to samobile.net you can use system access's 
features that way like movies and other things. also safari works good at 
samobile.net but you can't watch any movies. don't think chatrooms work in 
chrome though. Chrome support is experimental though so bugs may be found while 
using that with samobile.net. 

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> Hi Mike,
> 
> How are you?  I'm Jennifer Perdue from System Access.  Do you remember me?  I 
> asked you this before but I had to delete a bunch of mail so I'm not sure if 
> I got a reply.  I'm the girl the won the snowflake microphone a few years 
> back.  I switched from the PC to the Mac in June and it's been a slow and 
> argues process but I'm learning thanks to this list and a few friends I've 
> met on it.  
> 
> Hope things with you are going well.  I don't get on SA anymore because I am 
> not under the impression it will work with the Mac but I could and probably 
> am wrong.  Tell everyone like Ricki and so forth that I said hello.  I don't 
> have her contact information anymore because my phone ate it.  We went to 
> guide dog school together.  
> 
> Write back soon.
> 
> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
> On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Any usb keyboard will work, even a windows keyboard, so you should base it 
>> more on what is easiest to type on, in general, any keyboard should work.
>> On Feb 12, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Frank Tom wrote:
>> 
>>> I didn't get a response to  what's wrong with the extended keyboard my 
>>> friend got, so, I will ask another question.
>>> 
>>> What is the best extended keyboard out there, either wireless or usb, for 
>>> the blind mac user.
>>> 
>>> I personally like the bluetooth keyboard that came with my five year old I 
>>> Mac.  Unfortunately, Apple doesn't make this one any more.
>>> 
>>> He needs something with some heft to it so it gives good, tactile feedback. 
>>> To help myself, I stick little bumpers on the G and H keys and the F4 and 
>>> F8 keys to make finding the home row easier. 
>>> 
>>> What do you use?
>>> 
>>> Tom 
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Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!

[Steve Holmes]

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 06:23:33PM -0600, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> Do you have the mac mini connected to a monitor, if not, it may cause this 
> kind of behavior, the monitor does not need to be turned on, just connected.

No, I don't have one.  I purposely didn't buy one because I didn't
want to spend the money plus I really don't have the room for one on
my current setup.  I had mentioned this in my previous messages,
hoping there might be a work-around I could use until I can find a VGA
addapter or something.  Yeah, I was sort of hoping to keep the cost
down to make it easier to enter the Mac market without breaking the
bank and save space at the same time.  I love the size of the Mini -
very small footprint.  It just surprises me that the Dropbox app alone
would cause me all this trouble with the finder.  Finder works great
when dropbox is not running.

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Re: A music Library without Syncing again!

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kawal.

This is an excellent post.  Thank you so much for taking the time to write it.

Most Sincerely,

Mark
On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> 
> This may be a long mail so delete if you do not want to read.
> 
> From time to time, we all have trouble with our music in our Itunes Library 
> as I had recently.
> 
> To cut a story short, I had purchased a lot of music from Itunes using my I 
> phone 4S due to the fact I was at work and feeling a bit bored with what I 
> was doing.  (Sh) do not tell the boss.  I was finding that all my purchased 
> items were not showing on my I phone 4S so I must have reset my phone half a 
> dozen times and this kept happening that all my music was not showing.
> 
> So today, I was talking to someone who has used the Mac for years with Voice 
> Over and they were explaining how all his music was in the Cloud.  Prior to 
> that, I had gone in Itunes to the Store tab to view my account information.  
> Purely by accident, I was checking that my Icloud was on and my Icloud Match 
> was on too. So I kept arrowing across and I came to a tab called add devices 
> to my I Cloud and it asked me if I wanted to add my Mac Book Pro which I duly 
> did.  Voice Over informed me that now all my music would be uploaded to the 
> Cloud on my Mac.  I then thought that this would mean I did not have to sync 
> my I phone 4S with Itunes to get my music.
> 
> So again I deleted all my content off the phone and set my phone up again.  
> Whilst I was doing that, a friend of mine said that I should make sure all my 
> music was uploaded to the Cloud.  So he told me to do command J on my Mac as 
> more columns would be shown where my music table was.  I could check and 
> uncheck the columns and two of the columns were important, I Cloud status and 
> whether each song was matched or not.  Once I had set up my columns, I went 
> to each track in my music library and next to each track it either said 
> download or local.  If it said Local, then it was in the Cloud.  If it said 
> Download then it meant that I had to press the VO space bar to start the 
> download.  If I then went to the right with VO right arrow, then the Icloud 
> status would say matched, purchased.  So I went down the column with VO down 
> arrow and made sure all the column was showing purchased, uploaded or matched.
> 
> So now I have aperfect library where I do not have to sync my I phone to as I 
> only sync my podcasts, Apps and books.
> 
> Also, you can select all your music table, and do command I, go to the option 
> tab, and slide your volume up to 100% and so when your music is played it's 
> at maximum volume.
> 
> I do not know if this information is useful to anyone but now I'm hassle free 
> from worrying about my I phone 4S being filled up too quick.  It even 
> downloads the next trac ready to play when your track is finished.
> 
> Best of luck for whoever tries it.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: Recommendation for extended keyboard.

[Frank Tom]

Hello Esther and others,
My friend's problems has been solved. In frustration, I went to the Keyboard 
preference pane, and there it was.

Check to use the function keys as standard functions keys.

The Apple extended, USB keyboard, has its function keys mapped to change 
brightness, rewind, switch tracks, etc. You have to turn this "feature" off in 
the keyboard preferences to make the keyboard act as a regular keyboard. 
 

 Thanks for all your help and suggestions on keyboards.

Tom

\ 
On Feb 12, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Tom,
> 
> I suspect that you didn't get a response to your post about the extended 
> keyboard either because others haven't experienced  problems with the F keys 
> or because many of the list readers are not typing on extended keyboards.
> 
> I've only typed extensively on Mac laptop keyboards, and I don't have a 
> problem with the lower profile, chiclet key design, so this recommendation is 
> based on matching your preferences and background to the product in 
> responding to your request for "the best extended keyboard out there, either 
> wireless or usb, for the blind mac user." 
> 
> Try checking out the Matias Tactile Pro 3 keyboard:
> 
> This is a full-size USB keyboard that uses ALPS keyboard switches.  It's the 
> third generation of this keyboard, and if you liked the feel of the older 
> Apple Bluetooth keyboard you will probably like this design.  Even better, 
> since you mentioned in previous posts that you can easily get to Small Dog 
> Electronics, you can go there to buy/try out the keyboard.  There's a review 
> posted on the Small Dog from someone who bought this as a replacement 
> keyboard for his mother, after she found the keys on Apple Extended Keyboard 
> (that he loved) to be too flat and too quiet. Here's a quote:
> 
> "This keyboard is very similar to the original Apple Keyboard that came with 
> my first eMac.  The keys are easily distinguishable, and the entire keyboard 
> is built very sturdy.  While the click of the keys is not nearly as loud as a 
> manual type writer, you definitely know when each key is hit. There are also 
> three non-powered USB ports located directly on the keyboard, which is nice 
> for peripherals or the flash drives she swaps photographs on with my Aunts 
> and Uncles. I also know Matias as a reasonable company that stands behind 
> their products and honors their warranties if anything goes wrong with the 
> keyboard down the line. This is especially important when spending $139.99 on 
> a keyboard."  
> 
> For a more extensive and detailed review of this keyboard, check out the 
> TidBITS article by Adam Engst:
> • "Matias Tactile Pro 3 Keyboard Returns to the Alps" 18 August 2010:
> 
> I'll excerpt a few bits from the intro and the end of the article.  The 
> author got the first version of the Matias Tactile Pro keyboard when it first 
> appeared in 2004.
> 
> Over six years ago, I reviewed the original Tactile Pro keyboard from Matias, 
> and I think my article's title summarized things nicely - "The Majestic Alps 
> and the King of Keyboards" (29 March 2004). Put simply, the Tactile Pro was 
> the best keyboard I had used in a very long time, in the genre of loud, 
> clicky keyboards with great tactile feel. I don't run any software that 
> records how many keystrokes I type, but it's a lot, and I had basically typed 
> that keyboard into the ground. In fact, I typed two of them into oblivion, 
> since Edgar Matias had initially sent me a prototype without a case, and 
> after a key failed on the production unit that I reviewed, I shoehorned the 
> prototype into the production unit's case and used it for another few years.
> 
> 
> If you know you like clicky keyboards with that old-school feel, and you're 
> in the market for a new one, you won't go wrong with the Tactile Pro 3. It's 
> not cheap as keyboards go, but there's a reason that cheap keyboards rely on 
> cheap rubber dome keyswitches instead of the Tactile Pro's precision Alps 
> keyswitches. The keyboard has a 1-year warranty, and from what I've heard 
> from customers, Matias has been great about replacing defective keyboards.
> 
> 
> Matias is a Canadian company, but this keyboard is sold internationally.  You 
> can order directly from them and get keyboards in the US, UK, German, or 
> Japanese layout.  You can also order from Amazon and other sources (like 
> Small Dog Electronics), or you can check the resellers link on their web page 
> to find local distributor agents across the world.
> 
> Matias also makes a folding Bluetooth keyboard with NumPad and extended keys. 
>  However, because it is an extended keyboard, when folded it's about the same 
> size as the Apple Wireless Keyboard.  This also does not have keys with large 
> travel, since it has to fold flat, but it does support recent Mac computers 
> and iOS devices.  MacAlly makes a BTKey keyboard

blue tooth and hims onhand

[nstevens]

Hello,
 
I'm so close to pairing the on hand with my Mac book pro. Would someone be
able to send details on how to pair the two devices. I can find the on hand
and it seems to recognize it but then when I try to type in a password I'm
not sure what the final step is.
 
Thanks for any help.
 
Nancy

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Re: Bookmarks in Safari Not Showing

[Gerry Cook]

Hi I had a problem with this about 3 weeks, ago and as a last resort 
successfully! i pressed on the zume button in safari and never lost the 
particular table again, and before that i'd got that message safari busy that, 
you'd got as well, so maybe you could give it a try. All the best. 
cheers gerry have a great day
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On 14/02/2012, at 4:13 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Brandon,
> 
> Scott Howell posted a solution for this a few weeks ago in response to a 
> question from Mary Otten.  I'll paste it in below.  I haven't encountered 
> this problem yet myself, but I would guess that it's specific to Safari 5.1 
> or Lion, or the combination.  Another thing that it occurs to me to try is 
> quitting Safari, then using Finder to go to the ~/Library/Preferences folder 
> under your account using the Command-Shift-G "Go to folder shortcut", and 
> delete the com.apple.Safari.plist file.  Relaunching Safari should go back to 
> the default new configuration.
> 
> Scott's post:
> Mary,
> 
> THis is a strange one, but here is the solution. SInce you already can get to 
> the table with the bookmarks etc. I won't cover that. So, once you have 
> selected the set of bookmarks from the table:
> 1. Navigate past the vertical splitter and the search field.
> 2. When you encounter the horizontal splitter interact with it and navigate 
> to the right. THe idea is to hear it say "Zero percent".
> 
> At this point Safari may go busy on you and my advice is to simply toggle VO 
> off/on and that should resolve the problem. Then you should be able to find 
> the table with the individual bookmarks. Unfortunately I have not found a way 
> to keep the table expanded, so you have to use this method until someone can 
> figure out how to fix the issue. :) Of course put a bug in Apple's ear at 
> accessibil...@apple.com, so they know this is really annoying.
> 
> Scott
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Feb 13, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In Safari, I can press command+option+B to get the bookmarks. However, for 
>> some reason, I only get the search field, and not the table itself listing 
>> the bookmarks. Only the sidebar with the categories, and the search field, 
>> show up.
>> 
>> I've tried using the splitters. The horizontal splitter only says 
>> "collapsed" inside of it, and it won't expand.
>> 
>> Has anyone else had this problem? What can I do about it?
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
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