Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Mark!
Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
All the best!
Colin

On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
> Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
> works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
> would apply.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
>> 
>> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
>> sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once 
>> the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by 
>> sentences?
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Well I can help here!
>>> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
>>> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key up 
>>> and down to change the setting!
>>> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key down 
>>> and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
>>> So try the other way to change settings!
>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
 its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
> 
> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
> VoiceOver
> User Guide describing methods for reading text:
> 
> Text:
> 
> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
> Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
> 
> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
> selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting 
> once
> it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
> selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
> swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not navigate 
> by
> sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue to
> hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures to
> no avail.  
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the Rotor 
> to
> set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
> 
> All comments welcomed.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Accessible Program for masking your IP

[Michael Busboom]

Hi.

I am looking for a low-cost solution for masking my Mac's IP address.  For 
quite some time, I used Hot Spot Shield, but this is no longer an option, 
because "PowerPC Applications are no longer supported."

Can anyone suggest an accessible alternative?

My thanks in advance,

Mike

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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Emrah]

Just tried and it works here.
Basically, once you change the setting, it affects what is read to you when you 
move your finger on the trackpad.
The line mode will read a line at a time, the word mode will read a word at a 
time and so forth.

I cannot find any use to this feature yet...

Emrah
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On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Mark!
> Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
> All the best!
> Colin
> 
> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
>> Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
>> works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
>> would apply.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
>>> 
>>> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
>>> sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once 
>>> the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by 
>>> sentences?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there!
 Well I can help here!
 It is not clear but I found out by accident!
 What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
 up and down to change the setting!
 But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
 down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
 So try the other way to change settings!
 hth Colin
 
 On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
>> VoiceOver
>> User Guide describing methods for reading text:
>> 
>> Text:
>> 
>> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
>> Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
>> 
>> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
>> selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting 
>> once
>> it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
>> selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
>> swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
>> navigate by
>> sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue 
>> to
>> hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures 
>> to
>> no avail.  
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
>> Rotor to
>> set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
>> 
>> All comments welcomed.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Please clarify for me what you did as it's never worked for me.  This means you 
just use the I phone gestures on the Mac and you do not need the key board to 
get voice over to read all with vo A.

I am using Lion and turned anything to do with launch pad off.

Kawal.

On 30 Jan 2012, at 03:49 PM, Emrah  wrote:

> Just tried and it works here.
> Basically, once you change the setting, it affects what is read to you when 
> you move your finger on the trackpad.
> The line mode will read a line at a time, the word mode will read a word at a 
> time and so forth.
> 
> I cannot find any use to this feature yet...
> 
> Emrah
> --
> Emrah
> 
> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
> Albert Einstein
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark!
>> Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
>> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
>> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
>> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
>> All the best!
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
>>> Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
>>> works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
>>> would apply.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
 
 As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
 sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once 
 the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by 
 sentences?
 
 Mark
 On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
 
> Hi there!
> Well I can help here!
> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
> up and down to change the setting!
> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
> down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
> So try the other way to change settings!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
>> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
>>> VoiceOver
>>> User Guide describing methods for reading text:
>>> 
>>> Text:
>>> 
>>> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
>>> Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
>>> 
>>> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
>>> selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting 
>>> once
>>> it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
>>> selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
>>> swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
>>> navigate by
>>> sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue 
>>> to
>>> hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures 
>>> to
>>> no avail.  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
>>> Rotor to
>>> set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
>>> 
>>> All comments welcomed.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Emrah]

Hello,

This has nothing to do with trackpad gestures per say.
If you want to read all with VO without your keyboard, just enable the trackpad 
commanders and do a two fingers flick down on the text area. 

Cheers,
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Albert Einstein

On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Please clarify for me what you did as it's never worked for me.  This means 
> you just use the I phone gestures on the Mac and you do not need the key 
> board to get voice over to read all with vo A.
> 
> I am using Lion and turned anything to do with launch pad off.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 30 Jan 2012, at 03:49 PM, Emrah  wrote:
> 
>> Just tried and it works here.
>> Basically, once you change the setting, it affects what is read to you when 
>> you move your finger on the trackpad.
>> The line mode will read a line at a time, the word mode will read a word at 
>> a time and so forth.
>> 
>> I cannot find any use to this feature yet...
>> 
>> Emrah
>> --
>> Emrah
>> 
>> “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” 
>> Albert Einstein
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark!
>>> Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
>>> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
>>> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
>>> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
>>> All the best!
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
 Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
 works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
 would apply.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
> 
> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
> sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, 
> once the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to 
> navigate by sentences?
> 
> Mark
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well I can help here!
>> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
>> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
>> up and down to change the setting!
>> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
>> down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
>> So try the other way to change settings!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
>>> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook 
 Pro.
 
 The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
 VoiceOver
 User Guide describing methods for reading text:
 
 Text:
 
 "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or 
 paragraph)
 Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
 
 Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
 selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the 
 setting once
 it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
 selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
 swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
 navigate by
 sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I 
 continue to
 hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned 
 gestures to
 no avail.  
 
 What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
 Rotor to
 set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
 
 All comments welcomed.
 
 Mark
 
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Re: Splashtop - Remotely control your Mac, with Audio support

[joseph]

has anyone tried it?  i am not risking the price if it is not accessible.
On 30 Jan 2012, at 06:02, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hey Emra,
> 
> Thanks for that link, will research it a bit further on their support site. 
> If we can omit video or at least make it more SD than HD, this might be a 
> good solution for the ever languishing remote control process 
> 
> On 30/01/2012, at 2:56 PM, Emrah wrote:
> 
>> I was browsing the App Store and...
>> Just found out about this, going to try it now.
>> 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/splashtop-remote-desktop/id459710463?mt=12
>> 
>> If this works, champagne for all the ITs in the house!
>> 
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>> 
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>> Albert Einstein
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converting and ripping DVD's to MKV?

[Kliphton]

Okay, I have googled this, and haven't found very many accessible programs.
And DVD remaster is out the question because of it's price.  So does anyone
know of a voice over acceesible program that can rip DVD's in to MKV format?
Also converting other video files in to MKV format?  I know the second one
is probably a lon shot, but hey might as well try.

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RE: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ricardo.

I am very much glad you asked this question for, as you so correctly stated,
some basics do very often get overlooked.  However, in this case, they did
not; that is to say, I am interacting with the text.  

Allow me to list the gestures I am attempting to use:

After setting the TrackPad reading option to Sentence, I:

1.
Release the Command key while at the same time stop touching the TrackPad.

2.
Move the Insertion Point along with the VoiceOver cursor to the beginning of
the document.  I have the Insertion point and the VoiceOver cursor set to
follow each other.

3.
Use a single-finger swipe down on the TrackPad.  When I do this, what is
read by VoiceOver is the contents of the next line--not an entire sentence.


4.
Since this is not what I want, I use a single-finger swipe right on the
TrackPad.  When I do this, what is read by VoiceOver is the next word--not
an entire sentence.

This happens when reading emails, working in Pages, or in Text Edit.  

If you have gotten this to work, please list the steps and gestures you
employ.  

Thank you,

Mark

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Subject: Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc

Hi Mark,

Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.
Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation
works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same
would apply.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
> 
> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to
sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once
the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by
sentences?
> 
> Mark
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well I can help here!
>> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
>> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key
up and down to change the setting!
>> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key
down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
>> So try the other way to change settings!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if
its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook
Pro.
 
 The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
 VoiceOver User Guide describing methods for reading text:
 
 Text:
 
 "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or 
 paragraph) Press the Command key while touching a finger on the
trackPad."
 
 Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated 
 selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the 
 setting once it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing 
 that sentence is selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by 
 simply single-finger swiping up, down, left, or right on the 
 trackPad but it does not navigate by sentence.  Further, after 
 hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue to hold the Command 
 key down while performing the above mentioned gestures to no avail.
 
 What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
 Rotor to set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the
Rotor.
 
 All comments welcomed.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[M. Taylor]

Thank you, Colin, for this feedback.

Mark

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Subject: Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc

Hi Mark!
Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
All the best!
Colin

On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Mark,
> 
> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.
Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation
works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same
would apply.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
>> 
>> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to
sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once
the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by
sentences?
>> 
>> Mark
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there!
>>> Well I can help here!
>>> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
>>> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key
up and down to change the setting!
>>> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key
down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
>>> So try the other way to change settings!
>>> hth Colin
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if
its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook
Pro.
> 
> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
> VoiceOver User Guide describing methods for reading text:
> 
> Text:
> 
> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or 
> paragraph) Press the Command key while touching a finger on the
trackPad."
> 
> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above 
> stated selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use 
> the setting once it has been changed.  That is to say, after 
> hearing that sentence is selected, I attempt to navigate, by 
> sentence, by simply single-finger swiping up, down, left, or right 
> on the trackPad but it does not navigate by sentence.  Further, 
> after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue to hold the 
> Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures to no
avail.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use 
> the Rotor to set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option
on the Rotor.
> 
> All comments welcomed.
> 
> Mark
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RE: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[M. Taylor]

Hello Emrah,

 

Please list the exact steps and gestures you employ to read by sentence via
the TrackPad.

 

Also, are you running Lion or Snow Leopard?  

 

Reading one sentence, at a time, can be extremely useful when writing long
documents. 

 

Thank you,

 

Mark

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emrah
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in
Text Edit, Pages, etc

 

Just tried and it works here.

Basically, once you change the setting, it affects what is read to you when
you move your finger on the trackpad.

The line mode will read a line at a time, the word mode will read a word at
a time and so forth.

 

I cannot find any use to this feature yet...

 

Emrah

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"In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not."
Albert Einstein

 

On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:





Hi Mark!
Well I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
All the best!
Colin

On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:




Hi Mark,

 

Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.
Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation
works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same
would apply.

 

Ricardo Walker

rica...@appletothecore.info

Twitter:@apple2thecore

www.appletothecore.info

 

On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

 

Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.

 

As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to
sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once
the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by
sentences?

 

Mark

On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

 

Hi there!

Well I can help here!

It is not clear but I found out by accident!

What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key up
and down to change the setting!

But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key down
and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!

So try the other way to change settings!

hth Colin

 

On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

 

This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if its
a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.

 

Kawal.

 

On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:

 

Hello Everyone,  

 

I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.

 

The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard VoiceOver

User Guide describing methods for reading text:

 

Text:

 

"Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)

Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."

 

Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated

selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting once

it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is

selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger

swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not navigate by

sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue to

hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures to

no avail.  

 

What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the Rotor to

set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  

 

All comments welcomed.

 

Mark

 

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Re: efficiently selecting multiple cells in numbers

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Yuma,

Sorry for the delay in answering you but I've been out teaching VO all day.

To select multiple cells in Numbers, place a hotspot on the first and last 
cells to be selected. If the first cell is the actual first cell, this is not 
necessary.

Go to the last cell to be selected, turn cursor tracking off, bring the mouse 
and do a physical mouse click. Jump to the first hotspot, or go to first item 
if the cell is the first, bring the mouse and shift-click.

VoiceOver will announce the number of cells selected.

This sounds messy but it's easy when you get used to it. I use the Trackpad 
Commander to find the cell I want, then I turn it off to perform the action.

Cheers,

Anne


On 29 Jan 2012, at 22:57, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've got a numbers document with 365 cells to paste the atrribute of one cell 
> to. I've tried the shit and arrow method but the more cells are selected the 
> less responsive voice over is. I hate doing repetitive and idiotic hand 
> gestures and before i get on trying a script to do just that and more, does 
> anyone know whether one can select a range of cells, say from current cell to 
> the last cell of that row or column?
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated 
> 
> Best regards 
> 
> Yuma 
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Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Ed Worrell]

Hello, I am using Safari 5 with Lion on my macbook pro. I can't seem to figure 
out how to delete bookmarks from Safari. I go into the bookmarks menu like I 
sued to do, and go to show all bookmarks,and I can't even see my bookmarks in 
this menu, please help me figure out how to delete old bookmarks from Safari. 
Can this be done from Finder?

Ed

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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Ed!
Use command+option+B this will land you on a search field!But if you Shift+tab 
you will have a table of folders like history and others!
So select which one of those you want to go in to, and then just tab twice and 
you'll have the table of the bookmarks of that folder just interact and delete 
at your leisure!
hth Colin

On 30 Jan 2012, at 19:54, Ed Worrell wrote:

> Hello, I am using Safari 5 with Lion on my macbook pro. I can't seem to 
> figure out how to delete bookmarks from Safari. I go into the bookmarks menu 
> like I sued to do, and go to show all bookmarks,and I can't even see my 
> bookmarks in this menu, please help me figure out how to delete old bookmarks 
> from Safari. Can this be done from Finder?
> 
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Re: Accessible Program for masking your IP

[agent086b]

Hi,
I thought a NAT router did this already for us.
Max.
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Subject: Accessible Program for masking your IP
From: Michael Busboom 
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:00:44 +0100

Hi.

I am looking for a low-cost solution for masking my Mac's IP address.  For quite some 
time, I used Hot Spot Shield, but this is no longer an option, because "PowerPC 
Applications are no longer supported."

Can anyone suggest an accessible alternative?

My thanks in advance,

Mike



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Re: Accessible Program for masking your IP

[Aman Singer]

Hi, Mike and all.
I like and use
http://www.acevpn.com
It uses open VPN, which will work on the Mac. I am not sure whether
the GUI is accessible, but even if it isn't, one can use the command
line tool, I believe. Acevpn's servers also support PPTP and L2TP if
you don't want to use OpenVPN. The cost is $5 a month.
HTH.
Aman



>  Original Message  
> Subject: Accessible Program for masking your IP
> From: Michael Busboom 
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:00:44 +0100
>> Hi.
>>
>> I am looking for a low-cost solution for masking my Mac's IP address.  For
>> quite some time, I used Hot Spot Shield, but this is no longer an option,
>> because "PowerPC Applications are no longer supported."
>>
>> Can anyone suggest an accessible alternative?
>>
>> My thanks in advance,
>>
>> Mike
>>
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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Ed Worrell]

Hello. I have tried to do this, but I just come to a add button of which I 
can't do anything with. If I tab again I get another button that says add. I 
find the search field when I press command option B, then tab to the field that 
has History, bookmark menu etc. Then tab twice and I get those buttons labeled 
add. I can't find any field where all my bookmarks should be located. 
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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Red.Falcon]

Hi ED!
Maybe it might be how you've got the tab key set to act!
But when you've chosen which folder you wish to go into just vo+right arrow 
past the search field and you should end up at the table of bookmarks!
hth Colin

On 30 Jan 2012, at 21:20, Ed Worrell wrote:

> Hello. I have tried to do this, but I just come to a add button of which I 
> can't do anything with. If I tab again I get another button that says add. I 
> find the search field when I press command option B, then tab to the field 
> that has History, bookmark menu etc. Then tab twice and I get those buttons 
> labeled add. I can't find any field where all my bookmarks should be located. 
> Ed
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something wrong with the accessibility apple address?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay,

I think we're being shut out.

I just sent a message to:

accessibil...@apple.com
and got back the below.

"The email you sent to Apple Inc. could not be processed. 
This email address will not accept emails wherein the apple.com 
  email address is found solely in the 'BCC' field.

Please resend your email with the Apple address in the 'To' or 'Cc' field in 
order for the email to reach the intended recipient(s).

Thank You,

Did I get the address wrong?  I think not.  I know perfectly well I put the 
address in the to  field.  IF this is an indication  Apple no longer has an 
access department, how can we be certain that Apple will keep its commitment to 
VO?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: something wrong with the accessibility apple address?

[Ed Worrell]

Hello I got an email from Apple on this error message. They are not sure why it 
is sending out an error message. The messages are going through, I guess.

Ed

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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Ed Worrell]

Hello Colin, I tried this too, and I still can't seem to get to the field where 
my book marks should be. I am so frusterated right now…

Not sure why it has changed on me, but I can't seem to get it to work.
Can I access the bookmarks from finder some how?
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Re: something wrong with the accessibility apple address?

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I have just got a mail from accessibility. I have also got that message today. 
I have sent them the message. I can tell that they are receiving our mails, and 
they are working on that issue.

Best regards Annie.
Den Jan 30, 2012 kl. 10:47 PM skrev Ed Worrell:

> Hello I got an email from Apple on this error message. They are not sure why 
> it is sending out an error message. The messages are going through, I guess.
> 
> Ed
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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Ed again!
OK you've got me but I think you said your using Lion!
If so maybe it is different in that!
I'm running snowy kitty!
So maybe you need a lion tamer!
Colin

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> Hello Colin, I tried this too, and I still can't seem to get to the field 
> where my book marks should be. I am so frustrated right now…
> 
> Not sure why it has changed on me, but I can't seem to get it to work.
> Can I access the bookmarks from finder some how?
> Ed
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Re: efficiently selecting multiple cells in numbers

[CJ Daniel]

Ann,

I've watched your posts on the various Apple related lists & heard you on 
different podcasts.  I'd just like to comment on your in-depth knowledge of 
apple products & your willingness to share that knowledge with others.  Your 
familiarity with pages is particularly impressive.  I wish you'd produce a 
tutorial for that package.  Never the less, thank you for your willingness to 
share your hard won skills with the rest of us.

Sincerely,

CJ


On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Yuma,
> 
> Sorry for the delay in answering you but I've been out teaching VO all day.
> 
> To select multiple cells in Numbers, place a hotspot on the first and last 
> cells to be selected. If the first cell is the actual first cell, this is not 
> necessary.
> 
> Go to the last cell to be selected, turn cursor tracking off, bring the mouse 
> and do a physical mouse click. Jump to the first hotspot, or go to first item 
> if the cell is the first, bring the mouse and shift-click.
> 
> VoiceOver will announce the number of cells selected.
> 
> This sounds messy but it's easy when you get used to it. I use the Trackpad 
> Commander to find the cell I want, then I turn it off to perform the action.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 29 Jan 2012, at 22:57, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've got a numbers document with 365 cells to paste the atrribute of one 
>> cell to. I've tried the shit and arrow method but the more cells are 
>> selected the less responsive voice over is. I hate doing repetitive and 
>> idiotic hand gestures and before i get on trying a script to do just that 
>> and more, does anyone know whether one can select a range of cells, say from 
>> current cell to the last cell of that row or column?
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated 
>> 
>> Best regards 
>> 
>> Yuma 
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Re: Inserting Accents In Text Documents

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

There is another  option too which is a bit confusing but seems to work.  Hold 
town the letter you want an accent for a second and then use left and right 
arrow keys to select the character you want.

Jon

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On Jan 25, 2012, at 2:23 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Alternatively, why not add The Spanish keyboard and switch to it when you 
> need to type in Spanish? I do that for French. You just have to press 
> Cmd-Space to switch from one keyboard layout to the other.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 25 Jan 2012, at 05:24, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> I don't use them often but usually you can add accents by typing the letter 
>> with the option key and then the letter itself so to make
>> 
>> é
>> 
>> I type option-e and then e.
>> 
>> á
>> 
>> I type option-e and then a. Same for í ó ú. ¿ is typed with 
>> option+shift+questionmark. I don't think Spanish uses an umlaut but if you 
>> need it you just do option+u and then u to get ü. Likewise ñ is typed 
>> option+n then n.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 1/24/12 10:42 PM, ezzie bueno wrote:
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> Can anyone please tell me how to insert Spanish accents in a text document 
>>> using the keyboard on the MacBook Pro?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ezzie Ez Bueno
>>> Sent from my BrailleNote Apex
>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: Deleting bookmarks from Safari

[Ed Worrell]

I don't know if this helps, but I get two fields that I can interact with after 
I hit the tab key two times. I get New collection group and New folder group. I 
don't know what these are. The only thing that I can do either of these is add. 
I am stumped with this lack of functionality… I thank you for all the help and 
suggestions.
I have some research to do I guess.
Thanks again
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Re: automatically opening and converting with Abby Fine Reader Express

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

YOu could go one step further with a dedicated folder and folder scripts.  If 
you enable folder scripts and associate a script with the foler then you should 
be able to say something like

on new folder ...

end

I have an example script somewhere that I can find if you can't figure it out.

Jonathan

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On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Hi Anne and others who might need this.
> 
> I just whipped up an automation script that basically converts an opened pdf 
> or image or whatever into the same file name and as a text. This will 
> probably be usefull for anyone who doesn't want to bother with the entire 
> process each time.
> 
> Here is the script that you can open in applescript editor, then export as an 
> application or script or anything if you like, and you can also tweak a few 
> things such as what it will conver it to, such as pdf instead of rtf. Place 
> the exported file into your services folder or add a shortcut, anything taht 
> makes it easier for you
> 
> tell application "ABBYY FineReader Express"
>   activate
> end tell
> delay 2
> tell application "System Events"
>   tell process "ABBYY FineReader Express"
>   click button "Convert to Text Document" of window "Quick Tasks"
>   set windex to count every window
>   repeat until windex = 2
>   set windex to count every window
>   say "scanning"
>   delay 3
>   end repeat
>   delay 2
>   say "completed"
>   click button "Save" of front window
>   end tell
> end tell
> 
> I would script the image scanner part of it to make it even easier, 
> especially if you have a document feeder type scanner but will only work on 
> that if requested to.
> 
> Also, you can get rid of the say "scanning" part if it annoys you, i was just 
> using it to make sure that the repeat was proicessing correctly.
> 
> Hope this somehow helps
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Yuma 
> On 26/01/2012, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ray,
>> 
>> On 25 Jan 2012, at 09:45, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Thing is, when I scan a file now,  Fine reader will not open by itself.  
>>> And, even when I do open a file using command+o and it opens in Abby Fine 
>>> Reader, I still have to go in to Aby Fine Reader and press the convert to 
>>> text button.  Do you have to do this?
>> Yes. I don't know how to automate ABBYY FineReader so I have to do it by 
>> hand.
>> 
>> As for it not opening automatically, have you repaired permissions lately? 
>> You seem to have configured everything correctly.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: OCR on the mac

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

I have heard very good things on the Tidbits newsletters about the Fujitsu 
scanners when you have a lot of content.  They cost a few hundred dollars, but 
can scan several pages a second.

I meant to read the take control books about making a paperless office as the 
process is essentially the same as what we as blind individuals need, but never 
got around to doing that.

Best wishes,

Jonathan

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On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:27 PM, David Tanner wrote:

> Yes, and you can always delete the copy on the server as soon as you save it 
> on your computer.  That being the case it would only need to be there for a 
> few seconds until you saved it on your computer.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Doug Lawlor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:42 AM
> Subject: Re: OCR on the mac
> 
> 
>> I would love to see a version of Kursweil 1000 for the Mac. I have a lot of 
>> stuff in Kursweil format that I'd like to access.
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2012-01-28, at 6:18 AM, "Lisa Salinger"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> For what it's worth, you do have the option to save your scans to Serotek's
>>> server, but you can also save them to your computer.
>>> 
>>> Lisa
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:14 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: OCR on the mac
>>> 
>>> Yes; but I don't like the fact that everything you scan gets uploaded to
>>> seretek's server.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>> 
 Docuscan plus works very well.
 On Jan 26, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I want to find a good scanning solution for my mac.
> I will purchase a flat bed scanner, but not sure which one you all
>>> recommend, and what software you think would be best.
> I thought of using DocuScan  but the need to have an internet connection
>>> all the time is a bit off putting for me.
> Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated!
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Some help with making a web site accessible.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Hello,  Temple Rodef Shalom in NOrther Virginia just updated their web site and 
it has a mouse over type of menu that uses a "menu.js"  I can with some 
finagling pull down the menus in the list, but it is very inefficient.  
If somebody could look at http://TempleRodefShalom.org  and give me advice as 
to how to make aria landmarks indicate the menu or other tweaks that would make 
the site work better with Voice Over  (and possibly other screen readers) I 
would appreciate the help.

Thanks,

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Re: Some help with making a web site accessible.

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi,
 one comment and one question.
It works beautifully in lynx, which is still under development and has me 
wondering about its use in a terminal l setting.  Still I would guess that 
if there were numbered links on  that page, yours might be an easier ride.
The questions though is if you have contacted them about the change?  after 
all many  laptops and cell phones do not use mice either, with the older 
population in their temple family for example perhaps having equal 
issues.  The more you speak to those who do the site writing, the more 
wisdom gets passed around for improvement.

Make sense?
Karen

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:


Hello,  Temple Rodef Shalom in NOrther Virginia just updated their web site and it has a 
mouse over type of menu that uses a "menu.js"  I can with some finagling pull 
down the menus in the list, but it is very inefficient.
If somebody could look at http://TempleRodefShalom.org  and give me advice as 
to how to make aria landmarks indicate the menu or other tweaks that would make 
the site work better with Voice Over  (and possibly other screen readers) I 
would appreciate the help.

Thanks,

Jonathan


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Re: Some help with making a web site accessible.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Actually  I was asked to test the site.  I found it very difficult to bring up 
the Religious School link under learn. And also the Facebook lik and twitter 
link near the top don't say facebook and twitter in VoiceOver but Temple Rodef 
Shalom instead.  With Jaws  and IE8 the Twitter and Facebook icons were more 
specific.

Thanks,

Jonathan


 
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> Hi,
> one comment and one question.
> It works beautifully in lynx, which is still under development and has me 
> wondering about its use in a terminal l setting.  Still I would guess that if 
> there were numbered links on  that page, yours might be an easier ride.
> The questions though is if you have contacted them about the change?  after 
> all many  laptops and cell phones do not use mice either, with the older 
> population in their temple family for example perhaps having equal issues.  
> The more you speak to those who do the site writing, the more wisdom gets 
> passed around for improvement.
> Make sense?
> Karen
> 
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> 
>> Hello,  Temple Rodef Shalom in NOrther Virginia just updated their web site 
>> and it has a mouse over type of menu that uses a "menu.js"  I can with some 
>> finagling pull down the menus in the list, but it is very inefficient.
>> If somebody could look at http://TempleRodefShalom.org  and give me advice 
>> as to how to make aria landmarks indicate the menu or other tweaks that 
>> would make the site work better with Voice Over  (and possibly other screen 
>> readers) I would appreciate the help.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
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Knike + sports kit question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi guys:
I have a Nano 5th gen. Since I updated, I cannot find any of my Nike settings 
such as setting walking by time, galleries burned, etc. The only choices are 
walk, or run. Then start or stop. Any thoughts?

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test, please ignore

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Ioana Gandrabur

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Re: River Bible

[Angie Giltinan]

IF you find a bible app that has many diffferent translations for the mac, 
please  let me know!
On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:24 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:

> Angie,
> 
> Thanks for the info.  Actually, I'm looking for an app that allows for more 
> translations.
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
> 
>> Hi, If you go to the app store, search for river, it wil be the second or 
>> third choice.
>> I would tell you how much it cost, but when I went to look to see,  of 
>> course it wouldn't tell me, as I'd already bought it.
>> It might have been free, but a quick peek in the app store will soon answer 
>> your question.
>> I'm still getting used to it, but it is pretty good, 
>> The only thing I don't like about it is that you can only use a few 
>> translations.
>> I wish I could even buy more or something.
>> Enjoy!
>> Angie 
>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:22 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>> 
>>> Angie,
>>> 
>>> How much was the River Bible?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Angie Giltinan wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 In my quest to find a good bible app that I felt comfortable with, I have 
 found River Bible. 
 It has a simple interface, that allows you to search, read a selected 
 book, or write journal entries.
 I'm still playing with it and learning, but it seems nice.
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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Ioana Gandrabur]

HI,

It works for me in lion.
Here are the steps. 

1. Open a text 
2. touch trackpad
3. press command and you should hear the toggle from line sentence paragraph et.
4. Do not flick but rather move your finger around the trackpad. If words is 
selected you will only hear the word your finger is on. IF paragraph is 
selected than you hear that.
hth

Ioana

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On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Mark!
> Well, I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
> All the best!
> Colin
> 
> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
>> Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
>> works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
>> would apply.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
>>> 
>>> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
>>> sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once 
>>> the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by 
>>> sentences?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there!
 Well I can help here!
 It is not clear but I found out by accident!
 What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
 up and down to change the setting!
 But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
 down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
 So try the other way to change settings!
 hth Colin
 
 On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
 
> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>> 
>> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
>> VoiceOver
>> User Guide describing methods for reading text:
>> 
>> Text:
>> 
>> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
>> Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
>> 
>> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
>> selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting 
>> once
>> it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
>> selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
>> swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
>> navigate by
>> sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue 
>> to
>> hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures 
>> to
>> no avail.  
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
>> Rotor to
>> set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
>> 
>> All comments welcomed.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Ioana!
Well that's the way to do it! Just the ticket!
Thanks!
Colin

On 31 Jan 2012, at 01:59, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

> HI,
> 
> It works for me in lion.
> Here are the steps. 
> 
> 1. Open a text 
> 2. touch trackpad
> 3. press command and you should hear the toggle from line sentence paragraph 
> et.
> 4. Do not flick but rather move your finger around the trackpad. If words is 
> selected you will only hear the word your finger is on. IF paragraph is 
> selected than you hear that.
> hth
> 
> Ioana
> 
> Ioana Gandrabur
> 
> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
> stores.
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark!
>> Well, I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
>> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
>> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
>> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
>> All the best!
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> 
>>> Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
>>> Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
>>> works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
>>> would apply.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
 
 As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
 sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, once 
 the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to navigate by 
 sentences?
 
 Mark
 On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
 
> Hi there!
> Well I can help here!
> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
> up and down to change the setting!
> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
> down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
> So try the other way to change settings!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
>> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,  
>>> 
>>> I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook Pro.
>>> 
>>> The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
>>> VoiceOver
>>> User Guide describing methods for reading text:
>>> 
>>> Text:
>>> 
>>> "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or paragraph)
>>> Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
>>> 
>>> Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
>>> selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the setting 
>>> once
>>> it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
>>> selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
>>> swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
>>> navigate by
>>> sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I continue 
>>> to
>>> hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned gestures 
>>> to
>>> no avail.  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
>>> Rotor to
>>> set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
>>> 
>>> All comments welcomed.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Fwd: Newly Accessible Blackjack Game: iBlackJack HD

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

This looks like a neat app.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Aser Tolentino 
> Subject: Newly Accessible Blackjack Game: iBlackJack HD
> Date: January 30, 2012 8:26:23 PM CST
> To: viph...@googlegroups.com
> Reply-To: viph...@googlegroups.com
> 
> Hello all,
> A while back I was looking for a good Blackjack game on the app store and 
> noticed that the developer of iCatcher, Joe Graf (joeisanerd.com) had put one 
> out. I tried it and found that the interface was accessible, but the cards 
> were not. I contacted him and he was very open to taking steps to make the 
> game more VoiceOver compatible.I got an email from him this evening and the 
> latest update, 1.2, has gone live with VoiceOver support. When hands are 
> dealt, VoiceOver announces the dealer's showing card and your hand and you 
> can have the values of the cards read out by touching them on the playing 
> surface. It is a very simple game that's great for a quick hand.
> I heartily recommend it to anyone looking for another card game. The game 
> again is called iBlackJack HD; it's a universal binary and the app store link 
> is below:
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iblackjack-hd/id371922843?mt=8&ls=1
> 
> Respectfully,
> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
> (916) 572-2737
> agtolent...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: efficiently selecting multiple cells in numbers

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi Anne,

Merci beaucoup pour cette astuce. I guess ther are some things which need sight 
emulation using voice over, and they're pretty clever in fact.

Will try that out as soon as i get a finished data set from my friend 

Best regards,

Yuma 



On 31/01/2012, at 10:57 AM, CJ Daniel wrote:

> Ann,
> 
> I've watched your posts on the various Apple related lists & heard you on 
> different podcasts.  I'd just like to comment on your in-depth knowledge of 
> apple products & your willingness to share that knowledge with others.  Your 
> familiarity with pages is particularly impressive.  I wish you'd produce a 
> tutorial for that package.  Never the less, thank you for your willingness to 
> share your hard won skills with the rest of us.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Yuma,
>> 
>> Sorry for the delay in answering you but I've been out teaching VO all day.
>> 
>> To select multiple cells in Numbers, place a hotspot on the first and last 
>> cells to be selected. If the first cell is the actual first cell, this is 
>> not necessary.
>> 
>> Go to the last cell to be selected, turn cursor tracking off, bring the 
>> mouse and do a physical mouse click. Jump to the first hotspot, or go to 
>> first item if the cell is the first, bring the mouse and shift-click.
>> 
>> VoiceOver will announce the number of cells selected.
>> 
>> This sounds messy but it's easy when you get used to it. I use the Trackpad 
>> Commander to find the cell I want, then I turn it off to perform the action.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 29 Jan 2012, at 22:57, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've got a numbers document with 365 cells to paste the atrribute of one 
>>> cell to. I've tried the shit and arrow method but the more cells are 
>>> selected the less responsive voice over is. I hate doing repetitive and 
>>> idiotic hand gestures and before i get on trying a script to do just that 
>>> and more, does anyone know whether one can select a range of cells, say 
>>> from current cell to the last cell of that row or column?
>>> 
>>> Any help greatly appreciated 
>>> 
>>> Best regards 
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
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Re: automatically opening and converting with Abby Fine Reader Express

[Yuma Decaux]

Yes, that's the cherry on the cake. Folder actions are very usefull, but if you 
have both imagescane interaction followed by the abbeyfinereader interactions, 
folder actions aren't needed.

I've gathered all the UI elements on imagescan and will script the first half 
of this action and post it here for anyone who wishes to use it.

However, for multiple pages, the best for you to have is a document feeder type 
scanner. I use it and batches of 10 pages finish in 10 seconds. Real time saver 
:)



On 31/01/2012, at 11:12 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> YOu could go one step further with a dedicated folder and folder scripts.  If 
> you enable folder scripts and associate a script with the foler then you 
> should be able to say something like
> 
> on new folder ...
> 
> end
> 
> I have an example script somewhere that I can find if you can't figure it out.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
> 
>> Hi Anne and others who might need this.
>> 
>> I just whipped up an automation script that basically converts an opened pdf 
>> or image or whatever into the same file name and as a text. This will 
>> probably be usefull for anyone who doesn't want to bother with the entire 
>> process each time.
>> 
>> Here is the script that you can open in applescript editor, then export as 
>> an application or script or anything if you like, and you can also tweak a 
>> few things such as what it will conver it to, such as pdf instead of rtf. 
>> Place the exported file into your services folder or add a shortcut, 
>> anything taht makes it easier for you
>> 
>> tell application "ABBYY FineReader Express"
>>  activate
>> end tell
>> delay 2
>> tell application "System Events"
>>  tell process "ABBYY FineReader Express"
>>  click button "Convert to Text Document" of window "Quick Tasks"
>>  set windex to count every window
>>  repeat until windex = 2
>>  set windex to count every window
>>  say "scanning"
>>  delay 3
>>  end repeat
>>  delay 2
>>  say "completed"
>>  click button "Save" of front window
>>  end tell
>> end tell
>> 
>> I would script the image scanner part of it to make it even easier, 
>> especially if you have a document feeder type scanner but will only work on 
>> that if requested to.
>> 
>> Also, you can get rid of the say "scanning" part if it annoys you, i was 
>> just using it to make sure that the repeat was proicessing correctly.
>> 
>> Hope this somehow helps
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> On 26/01/2012, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Ray,
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2012, at 09:45, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Thing is, when I scan a file now,  Fine reader will not open by itself.  
 And, even when I do open a file using command+o and it opens in Abby Fine 
 Reader, I still have to go in to Aby Fine Reader and press the convert to 
 text button.  Do you have to do this?
>>> Yes. I don't know how to automate ABBYY FineReader so I have to do it by 
>>> hand.
>>> 
>>> As for it not opening automatically, have you repaired permissions lately? 
>>> You seem to have configured everything correctly.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
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Re: something wrong with the accessibility apple address?

[M. Taylor]

Yep, I got the same error message, today.

Mark
On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I have just got a mail from accessibility. I have also got that message 
> today. I have sent them the message. I can tell that they are receiving our 
> mails, and they are working on that issue.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Jan 30, 2012 kl. 10:47 PM skrev Ed Worrell:
> 
>> Hello I got an email from Apple on this error message. They are not sure why 
>> it is sending out an error message. The messages are going through, I guess.
>> 
>> Ed
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Re: A Question About Using The TrackPad when Navigating Text in Text Edit, Pages, etc

[M. Taylor]

Hello Ioana,

I see.  So, one cannot simply type away on the keyboard of the Macbook and then 
use a single-finger swipe to navigate via sentence.

Now I understand how it works.  Thank you ever so much.

Mark



On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Ioana!
> Well that's the way to do it! Just the ticket!
> Thanks!
> Colin
> 
> On 31 Jan 2012, at 01:59, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:
> 
>> HI,
>> 
>> It works for me in lion.
>> Here are the steps. 
>> 
>> 1. Open a text 
>> 2. touch trackpad
>> 3. press command and you should hear the toggle from line sentence paragraph 
>> et.
>> 4. Do not flick but rather move your finger around the trackpad. If words is 
>> selected you will only hear the word your finger is on. IF paragraph is 
>> selected than you hear that.
>> hth
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> Ioana Gandrabur
>> 
>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online 
>> stores.
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark!
>>> Well, I can also say that after changing the setting nothing happens!
>>> Sorry I thought you were having problems changing the settings!
>>> And yes Ricardo if you read this :] I did interact!
>>> So I suppose yet another message to Accessibility!
>>> All the best!
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 30 Jan 2012, at 07:55, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Mark,
 
 Excuse me stating the obvious but, thats often what gets overlooked. lol.  
 Are you interacting with the text?  This will often tweek how navigation 
 works I've noticed in text edit.  I don't have pages but, figure the same 
 would apply.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:21 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
 
> Hello Colin and thank you for the reply.
> 
> As I stated in my original message, I can get the setting changed to 
> sentence but, afterwards, I cannot seem to navigate by sentence.  So, 
> once the setting is set to Sentence, what gesture do you employ to 
> navigate by sentences?
> 
> Mark
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well I can help here!
>> It is not clear but I found out by accident!
>> What you have to do is keep your finger on the track pad and tap the key 
>> up and down to change the setting!
>> But the way most people think the instruction means is to hold the key 
>> down and tap the track pad and then think it does not work!
>> So try the other way to change settings!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 23:58, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> This has never worked for me Mark even in Snow leopard.  Do not know if 
>>> its a bug or if I've been doing something wrong.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 28 Jan 2012, at 11:38 PM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Everyone,  
 
 I am currently running the latest version of OSX Lion on my MacBook 
 Pro.
 
 The following is from Braille page 217 of the Mac OSX Snow Leopard 
 VoiceOver
 User Guide describing methods for reading text:
 
 Text:
 
 "Change how VoiceOver reads text [by word, line, sentence, or 
 paragraph)
 Press the Command key while touching a finger on the trackPad."
 
 Now, when I do this, VoiceOver does switch between the above stated
 selections; however, I cannot seem to figure out how to use the 
 setting once
 it has been changed.  That is to say, after hearing that sentence is
 selected, I attempt to navigate, by sentence, by simply single-finger
 swiping up, down, left, or right on the trackPad but it does not 
 navigate by
 sentence.  Further, after hearing that Sentence is selected, I 
 continue to
 hold the Command key down while performing the above mentioned 
 gestures to
 no avail.  
 
 What am I doing wrong?  Is this a bug?  I would be happy to use the 
 Rotor to
 set my choice to sentence but sentence is not an option on the Rotor.  
 
 All comments welcomed.
 
 Mark
 
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