word verbosity versis letter

[Eric Oyen]

I fimd muself in an uny=uauwk=l oisutuin  of learning that I cn fo better than 
that. I still hav a lot 9f practice to. Iduess that I had ti learn this on my 
own. 

sorrt that my weirds siim incohweabr. sitll Have a lot of practice to do.

this is harder than it looks. I can't make out half of what I say. will it get 
any better?

-eric

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Re: Setting up an automation with Automator...

[David Hole]

Thanks much.
But then a new question...
In Lion the Library-folder in my user has disappeared, so now I can't
save my automation service in my own library... Where is it? Have
apple hidden it, or?
-David

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 21:54, Darcy Burnard  wrote:
> When you find the action you want, press return on it.  That will add it to 
> your workflow.  If the action has any settings, you must interact with the 
> workflow, then interact with the action to set them.
> HTH.
> Darcy
>
> On 2011-07-31, at 8:15 AM, David Hole wrote:
>
>> Hi folks.
>> Can someone here tell me in short how I set up an automation with
>> Automator using VoiceOver?
>> I read the help-stuff for Automator, but it only told me to drag the
>> actions somewhere, but with VO I can't find any logic place to drag
>> them...
>> Thanks much in advance.
>> -David
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Re: searching for mail in lion with classic layout

[johns . kary]

Hi Anne,
Thanks so much for this, I actually do remember reading this somewhere now you 
mention it.
Thanks again for jogging my memory. :) I was getting incredibly frustrated! 
with it.
Kari. 
On 31/07/2011, at 7:12 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Kary,
> 
> If you press Cmd-Option-f you'll be in the Search box. After entering your 
> text, a menu will open offering you choices of where to search, such as 
> subject, body of message, and so on, and also showing what has already been 
> found. Escape will get you out of this menu.
> 
> If you stop interacting with the Toolbar, you'll find the Favourites bar to 
> the right. Interacting with this will show you options of where to search.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: speech loss

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left.

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight  wrote:

> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
> your computer  when speech  went away?
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Joe,
>>> 
>>> You wrote: 
>>> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
>>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: speech loss
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> best
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adium not working under lion

[johns.kary]

Hopefully this will be the last question. lol

Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work.
Wen I try to open adium I get the message,  "adium has quit unexpectedly" 
I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. 
There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that was 
incompatible with OS lion.
 Any one having this problem or no what's going on?

Thanks,
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Re: adium not working under lion

[Chris Moore]

I am not having any Adium problems here, have you tried doing a disk repair 
with disk utility? or tried downloading the latest version and installing it 
again?
On 1 Aug 2011, at 10:45, johns.kary wrote:

> Hopefully this will be the last question. lol
> 
> Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work.
> Wen I try to open adium I get the message,  "adium has quit unexpectedly" 
> I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. 
> There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that 
> was incompatible with OS lion.
> Any one having this problem or no what's going on?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kari. 
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Re: Music player

[erik burggraaf]

Hi Angie,

ITunes is marginally better on mac than on windows.  IMHO though, the whole 
idea of ITunes is ridiculous.  It's a benighted, proprietary piece of 
bloatware.  Personaly I use VLC for my stuff.  It's playlist based and non 
proprietay.  

You can get vlc from www.videolan.org.  You'll be happy you did.  ITunes balks 
me at every turn, but really and truely, I can't think of a single task that 
ITunes dows that a third party program doesn't do much better.

Best,

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On 2011-07-30, at 10:33 PM, Angie Giltinan wrote:

> Good evening all!
> I'm a new mac user, fresh from the windows world, so when I learned that 
> iTunes was the default music player on the mac, I sort of panicked since, 
> well, umm, iTunes really sucks in windows!
> So, here's my question, what do you all use to play mp3's and ogg files?
> do you just stick with iTunes, which admitedly, is much better, and nicer on 
> the mac, or is there a third party software you all like for playing your 
> music?
> Thanks in advance for any and all feedback!
> Angie and Guide dog Essence, and lazy cat Caleb! the king of this particular 
> hill!
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Re: Setting up an automation with Automator...

[Bryan Jones]

Hello David,

Apple has hidden the User's Library folder by default in Lion. You can use one 
of the suggestions in the following cnet article to either unhide the folder 
using a terminal command or use the finder to go directly to the folder without 
unhiding it.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20082044-263/os-x-lion-where-did-my-library-go/

HTH,
Bryan

On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:02 AM, David Hole wrote:
> In Lion the Library-folder in my user has disappeared, so now I can't
> save my automation service in my own library... Where is it? Have
> apple hidden it, or?

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Re: speech loss

[joseph]

hi

finally with a help of a sighted friend i managed to get speech back.  
presumably, i must have selected sound flower by accident in both system 
preferences and voiceover utilities.

best
On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59, carlene knight wrote:

> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
> your computer  when speech  went away?
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Joe,
>>> 
>>> You wrote: 
>>> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
>>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: speech loss
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> best
>>> 
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Accessible DVD ripper for Paul

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Paul,

I also use the program DVD Remaster that Doug spoke of earlier. I have used it 
to successfully create m4v files to place on my Iphone. I can break the 
copyright encription with Fairmount a program included with DVD Remaster. Note 
this is only done for my own personal use to transfer the content of the 
commercial DVVDs to my Iphone. I believe you can also extract the audio from 
DVDs as well with DVD Remaster. I have done this as well, and it works 
flawlessly. Hope this helps. Have a  great day.
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Re: speech loss

[Ricardo Walker]

Do you guys use screen savers?  Maybe this is the problem?  I'm just taking a 
shot in the dark here.  After waking my MBP, speech comes back right away.  

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left.

Kawal.

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight  wrote:

> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
> your computer  when speech  went away?
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Joe,
>>> 
>>> You wrote: 
>>> " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
>>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: speech loss
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
>>> best
>>> 
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Re: adium not working under lion

[Tammy]

Hi,

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the ap?  I’m using adium and 
haven’t had any problems.

Tammy
From: johns.kary 
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:45 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: adium not working under lion

Hopefully this will be the last question. lol

Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work.
Wen I try to open adium I get the message,  "adium has quit unexpectedly" 
I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. 
There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that was 
incompatible with OS lion.
Any one having this problem or no what's going on?

Thanks,
Kari. 

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Re: Setting up an automation with Automator...

[David Hole]

Thanx so much.
Then I'm on it :)

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 14:38, Bryan Jones  wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> Apple has hidden the User's Library folder by default in Lion. You can use 
> one of the suggestions in the following cnet article to either unhide the 
> folder using a terminal command or use the finder to go directly to the 
> folder without unhiding it.
>
> http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20082044-263/os-x-lion-where-did-my-library-go/
>
> HTH,
> Bryan
>
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:02 AM, David Hole wrote:
>> In Lion the Library-folder in my user has disappeared, so now I can't
>> save my automation service in my own library... Where is it? Have
>> apple hidden it, or?
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Re: speech loss

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

No idea, but I will investigate.

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 Aug 2011, at 04:13 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Do you guys use screen savers?  Maybe this is the problem?  I'm just taking a 
> shot in the dark here.  After waking my MBP, speech comes back right away.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
> Same here, I constantly loose speech if the Mac Book is left.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 05:59 AM, carlene knight  wrote:
> 
>> I've been losing speech often since upgrading to Lion.  If I leave my 
>> computer for an hour or two, I can pretty much guarantee that VO will not 
>> work.  It takes a while to get it toggled back on as well.  Were you using 
>> your computer  when speech  went away?
>> On Jul 31, 2011, at 3:18 AM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Mark
>>> 
>>> Speech not restored  Cmd5, f10 did not help.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2011, at 05:53 AM, "M. Taylor"  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Joe,
 
 You wrote: 
 " i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?"
 
 Joe,
 Did you ever get speech restored back to your iMac?  If so, what was the
 problem?
 
 Mark
 
 
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
 Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:03 PM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: speech loss
 
 hi list
 
 i lost speach for some reason on my iMack, how to get it back please?
 
 thank you in advance
 
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ABBYY FineReader for Lion

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

Here is the link to download the Lion compatible version of ABBYY FineReader 
for those who, like me, bought it through the Website.



The link starts the download automatically.

Cheers,

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Re: ABBYY FineReader for Lion

[Dan]

Hello Ann,
While I don't like to make a habit of posting thank you message, here's one 
that I feel is an exception.
This is because many people have purchased ABBYY Fine Reader Prior to Lion and 
from the web instead of the App Store.
Again, I for one really appreciate the link. I was Promised, by an ABBYY 
employee  that I'd be emailed the link when it became available. That didn't 
happen. So this is why I'm saying thanks.
 
Dan

On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> Here is the link to download the Lion compatible version of ABBYY FineReader 
> for those who, like me, bought it through the Website.
> 
> 
> 
> The link starts the download automatically.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: ABBYY FineReader for Lion

[Scott Howell]

Dan, I agree and echo your comments. Unfortunately there are times where we 
have to depend on each other to keep current with what devs are up to as they 
do not always follow-through.
Thanks Anne,

On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Dan wrote:

> Hello Ann,
> While I don't like to make a habit of posting thank you message, here's one 
> that I feel is an exception.
> This is because many people have purchased ABBYY Fine Reader Prior to Lion 
> and from the web instead of the App Store.
> Again, I for one really appreciate the link. I was Promised, by an ABBYY 
> employee  that I'd be emailed the link when it became available. That didn't 
> happen. So this is why I'm saying thanks.
>  
> Dan
> 
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Here is the link to download the Lion compatible version of ABBYY FineReader 
>> for those who, like me, bought it through the Website.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The link starts the download automatically.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
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Re: Looking for an accessible DVD ripper

[Chris Blouch]

Might want to give RipIt a try. They have a free demo version to 
download which lets you do a couple rips before you have to buy it. 
Purchase cost is $25. It's main thing is to copy protected disks but it 
will also do compression to create versions for ipods and such.


http://thelittleappfactory.com/ripit/

CB

On 8/1/11 1:08 AM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:

Hi, Doug. Will it work with commercial DVD's as far as making a backup copy?
Also, will it allow you to create an m4v file to put onto your iPad or iPhone?
Thanks.

On Jul 29, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:


Hi Paul,
Check out dvd remaster. This program should do what you want and is very 
accessible. I'm not sure how much it is because when I bought the program it 
was on sale for 90% off the list price.

Doug

On 2011-07-29, at 1:42 PM, Paul Henrichsen wrote:


Hi, guys. I am looking for an accessible DVD cloning program like Handbrake. I 
want to convert DVD's to m4v files I can copy to my iPhone.
If handbrake is accessible, that's great; but is there a better one?
I'd also like a program which will clone the DVD so I can have a backup and put 
the original away for safe keeping.
I have clone DVD and Clone DVD mobile along with Any DVD HD from slysoft for 
windows, but they are totally inaccessible under windows.
Is there something similar to the slysoft programs that is accessible on the 
mac?
Thanks.

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Re: ABBYY FineReader for Lion

[Anne Robertson]

I was sent the link by ABBYY Europe. I'd given the guy in Germany a hard time 
about not getting the update out for those of us who've had FineReader for 
quite some time.

Cheers,

Anne


On 1 Aug 2011, at 19:39, Scott Howell wrote:

> Dan, I agree and echo your comments. Unfortunately there are times where we 
> have to depend on each other to keep current with what devs are up to as they 
> do not always follow-through.
> Thanks Anne,
> 
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
>> Hello Ann,
>> While I don't like to make a habit of posting thank you message, here's one 
>> that I feel is an exception.
>> This is because many people have purchased ABBYY Fine Reader Prior to Lion 
>> and from the web instead of the App Store.
>> Again, I for one really appreciate the link. I was Promised, by an ABBYY 
>> employee  that I'd be emailed the link when it became available. That didn't 
>> happen. So this is why I'm saying thanks.
>>  
>> Dan
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Here is the link to download the Lion compatible version of ABBYY 
>>> FineReader for those who, like me, bought it through the Website.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The link starts the download automatically.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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had a thought about the lion and item chooser

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

Hello; I am still using leopard so this is just  a guess.  when using  
the item chooser it will close itself if the page hasn't finished  
loading.  I've heard that the lion has a feature that allows certain  
parts of the screen to keep changing as info in that part of the page  
changes.  could this be causing the loss of or unreliability of the  
item chooser.  just a thought.  good luck, max 


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seem to be having an issue with downloads window

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.

Here's the thing.  When I hide the tool bar in Safari, and I download a file, 
if I press Command+Option f and VO right to the downloads window button, I 
press the downloads window button and then I still cannot see the downloads 
window.  The only way for me to see the downloads window is to show the tool 
bar, stop interacting with the HTML content and click the downloads button from 
the tool bar.  Anybody else notice this?  If this doesn't happen to you, how do 
you click the downloads button with the tool bar hidden?


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: seem to be having an issue with downloads window

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Ray. Well, I'm stumped. I can press VO-space on the downloads button, 
regardless of the status of the toolbar.

Teresa

On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Okay.
> 
> 
> Here's the thing.  When I hide the tool bar in Safari, and I download a file, 
> if I press Command+Option f and VO right to the downloads window button, I 
> press the downloads window button and then I still cannot see the downloads 
> window.  The only way for me to see the downloads window is to show the tool 
> bar, stop interacting with the HTML content and click the downloads button 
> from the tool bar.  Anybody else notice this?  If this doesn't happen to you, 
> how do you click the downloads button with the tool bar hidden?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
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Re: seem to be having an issue with downloads window

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Ray. Just thought of the possibility that the window is there, but the 
focus isn't on it. Did you try command- grave accent mark or the window menu to 
see if it is available?

Teresa
On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay.
> 
> Here's the thing.  When I hide the tool bar in Safari, and I download a file, 
> if I press Command+Option f and VO right to the downloads window button, I 
> press the downloads window button and then I still cannot see the downloads 
> window.  The only way for me to see the downloads window is to show the tool 
> bar, stop interacting with the HTML content and click the downloads button 
> from the tool bar.  Anybody else notice this?  If this doesn't happen to you, 
> how do you click the downloads button with the tool bar hidden?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
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Re: Accessible DVD ripper for Paul

[Esther]

Hi Paul and Allison,

DVD Remaster is available from both the Mac App store and the developer's web 
site:
http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/

If you get this from the Mac App store, I believe that you are directed back to 
the web site to get the Fairmount program.  The web site also lets you download 
a free trial version of the software.  Note that at present purchasing through 
the developer's web site and purchasing through the Mac App store are two 
different processes.  The Mac App store doesn't provide for trial downloads and 
additional files.  However, the process of automatic update is simpler.  You 
might want to download the trial, then delete it and purchase from the Mac App 
Store if you decide to get DVD Remaster.

Handbrake is also accessible, and free.  Most review comparisons I've read 
state that you get substantially faster  rips if you use DVD Remaster.  Also, 
if you want separate audio extraction, you want the Pro version $49.99 vs. 
$39.99), which I believe is what is sold in the Mac App Store.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Aug 1, 2011, at 03:15, Allison Manzino wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> 
> I also use the program DVD Remaster that Doug spoke of earlier. I have used 
> it to successfully create m4v files to place on my Iphone. I can break the 
> copyright encription with Fairmount a program included with DVD Remaster. 
> Note this is only done for my own personal use to transfer the content of the 
> commercial DVVDs to my Iphone. I believe you can also extract the audio from 
> DVDs as well with DVD Remaster. I have done this as well, and it works 
> flawlessly. Hope this helps. Have a  great day.
> Allison
> 
> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
> 
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Re: ABBYY FineReader for Lion

[William Windels]

Hello Anne and others,
thx for this message.
I have just installed the program and I have played with it for some minutes.
I see no difference on the first look and this seems a litlebit disappointing 
for me.
I mean: it's still not possible to set preferences.
Abby finereader wasn't able in the past to scan and ocr at the same time.
But, the result of what it can is quiet good.

Also, I have some further (update) questions:
I am scanning with a canon 700f lide, like you have I think Anne.
To scan, I use the mp navigator ex v2.1 so that the keys for fast action on my 
scanner should work.
However, there should be at least one bug in that peace of software: the 
scanner is sometimes reacting very slow or not when I press the keys on the 
scanner to start a scan-task.

At the moment , I am running lion but it was installed above sl so not a clean 
install.
Perhaps it should not work anymore when I do a clean install on friday.
>> (the infovox voices are also still working on lion without installing the 
>> registration update).


So:
Does anyone get information about newer software to scan with me canon 700f 
life?
And, if possible, does anyone know a solution for the bug about the fast keys 
on the scanner that react very slow?

Thanx a lot for your reactions.

best regards,
William 
Op 1-aug.-2011, om 20:43 heeft Anne Robertson het volgende geschreven:

> I was sent the link by ABBYY Europe. I'd given the guy in Germany a hard time 
> about not getting the update out for those of us who've had FineReader for 
> quite some time.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 1 Aug 2011, at 19:39, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Dan, I agree and echo your comments. Unfortunately there are times where we 
>> have to depend on each other to keep current with what devs are up to as 
>> they do not always follow-through.
>> Thanks Anne,
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Dan wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Ann,
>>> While I don't like to make a habit of posting thank you message, here's one 
>>> that I feel is an exception.
>>> This is because many people have purchased ABBYY Fine Reader Prior to Lion 
>>> and from the web instead of the App Store.
>>> Again, I for one really appreciate the link. I was Promised, by an ABBYY 
>>> employee  that I'd be emailed the link when it became available. That 
>>> didn't happen. So this is why I'm saying thanks.
>>>  
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>>> 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Here is the link to download the Lion compatible version of ABBYY 
 FineReader for those who, like me, bought it through the Website.
 
 
 
 The link starts the download automatically.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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RE: Hopeing and Wishing Apple will Fix OS X Lion VoiceOver

[M. Taylor]

Hello Kevin,

You Wrote, in part:
Since OS X Lion was made available, I've seen lots of blind VoiceOver users
say things such as: "I hope Apple will fix this", "I wish Apple will fix
that", and "I know Apple will fix this".

Sorry to burst people's bubbles, but Apple are not mind readers, they don't
know all these issues discussed, and are not all magical.  Apple has lots of
hardware, software, and lots of things that they are always working on, new
things, fixing bugs, and they are not all focused on accessibility.

Why not help out Apple accessibility, who are very understanding, commited,
appreciate feedback, and will do their best to address the feedback, as long
as it was provided to begin with.

The best way to let Apple accessibility know of these issues is their very
easy to memorize and use E-mail address:
accessibil...@apple.com
or, there's the option to use AppleCare.

In either case, the more information that is provided, the better."

Kevin,

While I appreciate the positive conclusion to your post, please do not
editorialize the tone of other list members.

Everyone is free to post their personal experience about apple-related
products to this list.

If you would like to suggest that list members send feedback to Apple
accessibility, then a simple post containing a polite sentence or two
followed by an email address would suffice.  

Kevin, I post this reply, on-list not to embarrass you, for I and others
realize that you only wish to help us, but to discourage others from drawing
list conclusions.  

Thank you for your contribution to the list and I hope this finds you happy,
safe, and well.

Most Sincerely,

Mark


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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:00 PM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Hopeing and Wishing Apple will Fix OS X Lion VoiceOver

Since OS X Lion was made available, I've seen lots of blind VoiceOver
users say things such as: "I hope Apple will fix this", "I wish Apple
will fix that", and "I know Apple will fix this".

Sorry to burst people's bubbles, but Apple are not mind readers, they
don't know all these issues discussed, and are not all magical.  Apple
has lots of hardware, software, and lots of things that they are
always working on, new things, fixing bugs, and they are not all
focused on accessibility.

Why not help out Apple accessibility, who are very understanding,
commited, appreciate feedback, and will do their best to address the
feedback, as long as it was provided to begin with.

The best way to let Apple accessibility know of these issues is their
very easy to memorize and use E-mail address:
accessibil...@apple.com
or, there's the option to use AppleCare.

In either case, the more information that is provided, the better.

Please let Apple accessibility know the following:
Application (If not default, any custom preferences/settings):
Summary:
Steps to Reproduce
Expected:
Actual:
Regression (Is this bug or new to Lion, IE: were things working as
expected in OS X 10.6.8):
Notes:

Please, with your help, Apple accessibility has the opportunity to
make OS X Lion VoiceOver 4 a lot better. Now, please go out and
provide the great, detailed, and constructive feedback.

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Re: Accessible DVD ripper for Paul

On another note.  Is there a DVD ripper program that will allow you to merge 
multiple DVD's?  What I mean is, what if you have a box set, or a mini serious, 
will it allow you to put 3 DVD's in one file?
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On Aug 1, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Paul and Allison,
> 
> DVD Remaster is available from both the Mac App store and the developer's web 
> site:
> http://www.metakine.com/products/dvdremaster/
> 
> If you get this from the Mac App store, I believe that you are directed back 
> to the web site to get the Fairmount program.  The web site also lets you 
> download a free trial version of the software.  Note that at present 
> purchasing through the developer's web site and purchasing through the Mac 
> App store are two different processes.  The Mac App store doesn't provide for 
> trial downloads and additional files.  However, the process of automatic 
> update is simpler.  You might want to download the trial, then delete it and 
> purchase from the Mac App Store if you decide to get DVD Remaster.
> 
> Handbrake is also accessible, and free.  Most review comparisons I've read 
> state that you get substantially faster  rips if you use DVD Remaster.  Also, 
> if you want separate audio extraction, you want the Pro version $49.99 vs. 
> $39.99), which I believe is what is sold in the Mac App Store.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 03:15, Allison Manzino wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> I also use the program DVD Remaster that Doug spoke of earlier. I have used 
>> it to successfully create m4v files to place on my Iphone. I can break the 
>> copyright encription with Fairmount a program included with DVD Remaster. 
>> Note this is only done for my own personal use to transfer the content of 
>> the commercial DVVDs to my Iphone. I believe you can also extract the audio 
>> from DVDs as well with DVD Remaster. I have done this as well, and it works 
>> flawlessly. Hope this helps. Have a  great day.
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
>> 
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library folder

[Mike Arrigo]

Hey everyone, I noticed that in Lion, in my home folder there is no longer a 
library folder, does anyone know where this has disappeared to? Or is this now 
a hiden folder? If so, I can configure the finder to show hiden files and 
folders, but this can get a bit cluttered.

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Re: library folder

[Cody]

show the macintosh hd on desktop and go in there, under system/library
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> library folder, does anyone know where this has disappeared to? Or is this 
> now a hiden folder? If so, I can configure the finder to show hiden files and 
> folders, but this can get a bit cluttered.
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Re: adium not working under lion

[Mike Arrigo]

It's working fine for me. I did a clean install of lion, not an upgrade, have 
not had any problems.
On Aug 1, 2011, at 4:45 AM, johns.kary wrote:

> Hopefully this will be the last question. lol
> 
> Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work.
> Wen I try to open adium I get the message,  "adium has quit unexpectedly" 
> I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. 
> There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that 
> was incompatible with OS lion.
> Any one having this problem or no what's going on?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kari. 
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Re: library folder

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

It is now hidden.  In Terminal, enter:

chflag nohidden ~/Library

This will show only the Library folder in your Home directory instead of 
everything.

Later…

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> Hey everyone, I noticed that in Lion, in my home folder there is no longer a 
> library folder, does anyone know where this has disappeared to? Or is this 
> now a hiden folder? If so, I can configure the finder to show hiden files and 
> folders, but this can get a bit cluttered.
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Re: library folder

[Matthew Campbell]

Hey Mike.
Another thing you can do is press command shift G for go to folder and then 
type ~/Library.
Then once you've gone there, make an alias to the library folder.

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> library folder, does anyone know where this has disappeared to? Or is this 
> now a hiden folder? If so, I can configure the finder to show hiden files and 
> folders, but this can get a bit cluttered.
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Re: library folder

[Tim Kilburn]

Correction,

The chflag should be plural, that is,

chflags nohidden ~/Library

sorry for the oops.

Later…

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> Hi,
> 
> It is now hidden.  In Terminal, enter:
> 
> chflag nohidden ~/Library
> 
> This will show only the Library folder in your Home directory instead of 
> everything.
> 
> Later…
> 
> On 2011-08-01, at 5:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone, I noticed that in Lion, in my home folder there is no longer a 
>> library folder, does anyone know where this has disappeared to? Or is this 
>> now a hiden folder? If so, I can configure the finder to show hiden files 
>> and folders, but this can get a bit cluttered.
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Re: all files

[craig J Dunlop]

I cant find tinkertools. does it have a different name.
On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:

> Hi,
> There was an update to TinkerTool that came out recently for Lion. I have it 
> here and it works fine.
> HTH,
> Jeffrey
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Cody wrote:
> 
>> If you get tinker tool for mac you can disable those indexing files on your 
>> drive. I don't know if it is supported under Lion though...
>> - Original Message - From: "louie" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: all files
>> 
>> 
>>> Run the below from terminal.
>>> 
>>> defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles ON
>>> defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles OFF
>>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Craig J Dunlop wrote:
>>> 
 on the cartridge I use with my nls player when I plug it into my pc it has 
 3 folders one of them is a . trashes and it is quite large. the file 
 doesn't show up when I plug in to my macbook pro?
 is there a way to show all files ore something like that?
 
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where do the new voices go?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hello list,

I was wondering, when you download the new voices found in Lion, where do they 
go?  I ask because what if you wish to delete them?

Thanks.

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rolling back safari

[Mary Otten]

Hi folks,

I have time machine back ups going back to when I first got this Mac. I want to 
roll back to the previous version of Safari, since the new one comes up busy 
busy busy after I go through a few web pages in a session, and the old one did 
not do that. This far outweighs any minor benefits of the new one, especially 
since I'm using SL still. So, should I just be able to use time machine and 
find an old version of safari and copy that over? I've never downgraded an app 
before. 

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Re: adium not working under lion

[johns.kary]

Hi tammy,
I've just got it working again.
I had tried reinstalling it a couple of times a few days ago with no success,  
I deleted and reinstalled it again last night with the same result. 
But I gave it one more shot this morning after reading that you had no problems 
with it, and fore some strange reason in worked perfectly, and is still working 
perfectly.
So absolutely no idea what happened there, but at least it's working again.
Thanks for your help,
Kari. 
On 02/08/2011, at 1:41 AM, Tammy wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the ap?  I’m using adium and 
> haven’t had any problems.
>  
> Tammy
> From: johns.kary
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: adium not working under lion
>  
> Hopefully this will be the last question. lol
> 
> Ever since I've installed lion, adium has refused to work.
> Wen I try to open adium I get the message,  "adium has quit unexpectedly" 
> I've googled it, and haven't found a lot on the problem. 
> There was nothing that I've seen to say that adium was one of the apps that 
> was incompatible with OS lion.
> Any one having this problem or no what's going on?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kari. 
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Magic Trackpad and IPhone

[Christopher Peppel]

Hi there,

I have been playing around with the Magic trackpad since I have upgraded to 
Lion.  Figured I would give it another chance.  In spite of having the settings 
at their lowest point, it still seems to sensitive.  Might this be a good 
indication not to get an IPhone?  I was thinking of upgrading to one but don't 
want to waist the money if it won't work.  Any replies would be greatly 
appreciated.

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Re: Magic Trackpad and IPhone

[Dan]

Hello,
You really can't compare the trackpad with the iPhone. They are two completely 
different devices.
The touch screen on any of the iOS devices does much more than the trackpad.

Dan

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> 
> I have been playing around with the Magic trackpad since I have upgraded to 
> Lion.  Figured I would give it another chance.  In spite of having the 
> settings at their lowest point, it still seems to sensitive.  Might this be a 
> good indication not to get an IPhone?  I was thinking of upgrading to one but 
> don't want to waist the money if it won't work.  Any replies would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> 
> Chris
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moving around mail?

Okay, I have played with this for a couple of days so I could make sure it
worked.  What I did to get to the top of my messages without having to push
4 or more keys, is created a key commander.  So to get to the top of my
mailbox, any of them, all I have to do is hit option key and the number one.
Now getting to the bottom, I still have to use VO plus shift plus end, and
since the end key is on the right arrow, that's 4 keys I have to push to get
to the bottom.  But 90 percent of the time I don't want to go to the bottom
of my mailbox or folder, so this partial solution fits me well.  HTH

 

 

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