Re: Very annoying "Safari Busy" message

2011-03-17 Thread Ollie
Just for your info "The friend mail" as mentioned above is here:

http://thefriendmail.com/

I've not actually tried it though.

As for mobile facebook; It would seem that FB have changed the way
that the pages refresh. Notice that when you hit enter to update your
status or add a comment it doesn't make the page loading sound. At a
guess they've workeda  way with java to keep the page active rather
than relying on the user to do a manual page update by reacting with
the content.

Another work around, apart from the VO on and off, is hitting command
R to do a refresh. I notice that avoiding the tab key tends to help
and just using VO arrow keys seems to work better though there is no
hard and fast rule. We should let apple know about this problem as it
does happen on many other pages on the net where the page is a little
lively.

Just one other thing, to help if you are using the standard FB page: I
use an extension that kills the adverts, shh:
https://extensions.apple.com/

And just do a VO F and search for Facebook ads blocker.

Cheers,

O

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http://oliverkennett.com
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RE: where is this in the IPhone

2011-03-17 Thread LaMcAs
Hi Cheree

 

When you are in the To edit area if you start typing the person's name a
list is populated directly below the edit area. So it isn't auto-complete as
such because you have to move your finger down to the results and then swipe
right to go through the results to find the one you want, then you double
tap

 

 

Larry & Elliot GD (Guide Dog)

London, UK

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
Sent: 17 March 2011 03:58
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: where is this in the IPhone

 

Cheree Heppe here:

 

In my NetBook running Windows XP, in Outlook Express, there is a contacts
section.  In this section, I am able to land on an E-mail address and send
messages to that address.

 

When I want to send an E-mail, it allows me to start to type the E-mail
address and it fills the rest in for me.  This is helpful when I don't
remember the E-mail address.

 

Where is this feature in the IPhone?

 

 

Regards,

Cheree Heppe

 

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Installing XCode 4

2011-03-17 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello everyone. I installed XCode 4 using VoiceOver but the installer hung
indefinitely. I closed it and it looks like I have a clean installation but
I'm not sure. Is there an installation log? Have any of you had this issue?
Also, the installer is in the doc and I have no problem running it from
there. Where is the installer physically located in the folder structure?

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

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Re: Getting growl to announce incoming sms messages in skype

2011-03-17 Thread Colin M
Hi Dean!
Skype 5 has all kinds of things for you to set, like new request and message 
and it looks like growl comes along with skype!
Even the old 2.8 skype could tell you a lot of items, without growl in 
notifications I did not know about growl in 5 but all my settings from 2.8 
staid the same!
Colin
Qapla!
Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

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> Hi All,
> Can anyone tell me if I install growl can I get it to announce 
> incoming skype chat messages like it does with the jaws scripts on windows 
> version of skype or does someone have a mac script that works with skype to 
> announce incoming chat messages.
> Regards Dean
> !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to short to 
> be a grumble bum !!!
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AppleScript question

2011-03-17 Thread Bart Bunting
Hi everyone,

I'm slowly making friends with my macbook.  There are still a few issues
bugging me and was wondering if anyone else has found a solution?

I have both vmware (for running win xp) and emacs that pretty much need
to have voiceover turned off when they have focus as they are self voicing.

Now of course I can just hit command f5 to toggle VO on and off.
However that gets quite anoying when you are switching back and forth
between emacs, safari, vmware etc all the time.

It occurred to me that AppleScript may be the answer.  Now I'm pretty
new to all this stuff and to be honest have never written an appleScript
in my life.

So the reading that I have done suggests the following:

- Using the accessibility API (also called UI script) it should be
  possible.
- Somehow it should be possible to get system events to trigger the
  script when an app changes focus.

This is what I'm currently stuck on.  Finding a way to trigger a script
when an app gets focus.

My idea is this:
- trigger every time we change focus.
- Check the application name against a list of self voicing apps
e.g. emacs or vmware.
- If it matches, check if VO is on, if it is then turn off VO.
- If the app is not in the list, check if VO is on, if not then turn it
on.

All sounds pretty straight forward doesn't it :).  I'm sure it is or at
least might be if you knew what you were doing.

So after a few hours of googling and reading appleScript tutorials I'm
about done in for the night and have made no progress at all :(.

If anyone out there has already written something similar that they
would be willing to share, that would be awesome!  Even a few pointers
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for any advice.

Bart

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noticed issue adding friends to FB

2011-03-17 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Has anybody noticed difficulty adding friends to FB using the mobile site?  Can 
this be gotten around?

VO+space seems to not activate the links either to see a prospective friend or 
to add that person as a friend.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
Skype name:
barefootedray

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Re: where is this in the IPhone

2011-03-17 Thread Cheree
Cheree Heppe here:
Thanks, that's why I wasn't finding it.
Regards,
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my iPhone

On 17/03/2011, at 1:07, "LaMcAs"  wrote:

> Hi Cheree
> 
>  
> 
> When you are in the To edit area if you start typing the person’s name a list 
> is populated directly below the edit area. So it isn’t auto-complete as such 
> because you have to move your finger down to the results and then swipe right 
> to go through the results to find the one you want, then you double tap
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Larry & Elliot GD (Guide Dog)
> 
> London, UK
> 
>  
> 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheree Heppe
> Sent: 17 March 2011 03:58
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: where is this in the IPhone
> 
>  
> 
> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
>  
> 
> In my NetBook running Windows XP, in Outlook Express, there is a contacts 
> section.  In this section, I am able to land on an E-mail address and send 
> messages to that address.
> 
>  
> 
> When I want to send an E-mail, it allows me to start to type the E-mail 
> address and it fills the rest in for me.  This is helpful when I don't 
> remember the E-mail address.
> 
>  
> 
> Where is this feature in the IPhone?
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cheree Heppe
> 
>  
> 
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Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
Hi all,

I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody assist?

I have created a file that contains:

**
#/bin/bash
cd /library/webserver/documents
*

I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.

I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are there any 
steps I am missing?

Thx,
Jeff

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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread louie
Jeff,
> cd /library/webserver/documents
runs fine in terminal.
Give us a bit more details.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
> assist?
> 
> I have created a file that contains:
> 
> **
> #/bin/bash
> cd /library/webserver/documents
> *
> 
> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
> 
> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are there 
> any steps I am missing?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have added an 
echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, when the 
script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff directory.  Is there 
a reason why a script could not change to the mentioned directory?

Thx,
Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:

> Jeff,
>> cd /library/webserver/documents
> runs fine in terminal.
> Give us a bit more details.
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
>> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
>> assist?
>> 
>> I have created a file that contains:
>> 
>> **
>> #/bin/bash
>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>> *
>> 
>> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
>> 
>> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are there 
>> any steps I am missing?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
Okay, I added a little more error checking by adding an "ls" command.  It 
appears that it switches to the requested directory but, doesn't stay there 
when the script is finished executing.  Is there a way to make it stay in the 
directory that the script changes to?

Thx,
Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 12:17 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have added 
> an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, when the 
> script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff directory.  Is 
> there a reason why a script could not change to the mentioned directory?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>> runs fine in terminal.
>> Give us a bit more details.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
>>> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
>>> assist?
>>> 
>>> I have created a file that contains:
>>> 
>>> **
>>> #/bin/bash
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>>> *
>>> 
>>> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
>>> 
>>> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are there 
>>> any steps I am missing?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread louie
You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have added 
> an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, when the 
> script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff directory.  Is 
> there a reason why a script could not change to the mentioned directory?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>> runs fine in terminal.
>> Give us a bit more details.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
>>> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
>>> assist?
>>> 
>>> I have created a file that contains:
>>> 
>>> **
>>> #/bin/bash
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>>> *
>>> 
>>> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
>>> 
>>> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are there 
>>> any steps I am missing?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
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Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?

2011-03-17 Thread Michael Thurman
and what about those of us who can not do without it, also how does this 
explain why I am told that the new I5 macbok pro doesn't have the o issues? How 
many of us have 13"  macbooks?

On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> A detailed search for the problems listed in the crash report indicate a 
> memory leak involving several libraries. audio hijack pro I can do without. 
> unfortunately, once its installed, its pretty hard to find all its components 
> and remove them. right now though, I don't have a sufficiently large enough 
> backup drive to backup all my data to. so, a reinstall is not possible 
> currently.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Erick, that's very unfortunate. 
>> I know that growl causes some problems with Voice over and the way that 
>> audio hijack pro intercepts sound may cause problems as well. 
>> If however, you say that you are experiencing this behavior even before 
>> install applications, have you thought of this being something hardware 
>> related?
>> Just a thought.
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> I wish I was overstating the problem.
>>> as for installed utilities. I have soundflower, audio hijack pro, growl, 
>>> Skype and adium. I can tell you, the issues started even from a clean 
>>> install before having any of these utilities/applications installed. I have 
>>> included one of the crash handler reports as an attached text file. this 
>>> happens 5 or 6 times a day.
>>> 
>>> -Eric 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Well well, even if you didn't before, now you are definitely overstating 
 things and rather badly. 
 As we can tell from the various posts about this subject, there are many 
 people on this list who don't have the problem and especially with the 
 frequency and behavior  you are describing. 
 Du to the way you are describing your experience with Mac OS, and the 
 attitude you have towards this situation I have to ask.
 Have you considered that you may have installed something yourself that 
 compromises the stability of Voice Over or your system in general? 
 Finally, I would rather press command + f5 a couple of times to get Voice 
 Over back, if that ever happens to me, than use a poorly written, overly 
 expensive trash like Jaws.
 
 Nektarios.
 
 On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
> zack,
> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, 
> and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously 
> considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been 
> occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off 
> then use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I 
> do because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is 
> linux only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9).
> 
> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 
> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another 
> $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since I 
> don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> I think you're overstating the case a bit here...  Yes, it's annoying, 
>> but I haven't found it that annoying.  I haven't experienced it as often 
>> as others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 or two 
>> solves it.  Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's not 
>> loose our sense of perspective.  It could be much worse, we could be 
>> stuck on Windows with a screen reader not built into the OS, which when 
>> it freezes requires us to reboot the system completely.  I'll stop now.
>> Best,
>> Zack.
>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I 
>>> have seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better 
>>> with time. it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken library. 
>>> in any case, it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices to 
>>> accessibility. its gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug 
>>> reports to steve jobs directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a swift 
>>> kick in the pants to make this a priority,. perhaps if more of us would 
>>> do so, it would garner enough attention that apple Inc. would have to 
>>> do something about this problem.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
>>> 
 Robert, although the problem is annoying, this approach you described 
 might at least be a usable work-around.  I will 

Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on doing 
stuff.

I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this happen.

I was running my script with the following line:

sh websites (websites being the filename)

If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:

. websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)

Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.

Thanks all for reading through.

Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:

> You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have added 
>> an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, when the 
>> script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff directory.  Is 
>> there a reason why a script could not change to the mentioned directory?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
 cd /library/webserver/documents
>>> runs fine in terminal.
>>> Give us a bit more details.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
 directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
 assist?
 
 I have created a file that contains:
 
 **
 #/bin/bash
 cd /library/webserver/documents
 *
 
 I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
 
 I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
 there any steps I am missing?
 
 Thx,
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread louie
Jeff,
While in the finder press shift + command + g. Then type in the path you want 
to go to.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on doing 
> stuff.
> 
> I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this 
> happen.
> 
> I was running my script with the following line:
> 
> sh websites (websites being the filename)
> 
> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
> 
> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
> 
> Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.
> 
> Thanks all for reading through.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have 
>>> added an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, 
>>> when the script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff 
>>> directory.  Is there a reason why a script could not change to the 
>>> mentioned directory?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 Jeff,
> cd /library/webserver/documents
 runs fine in terminal.
 Give us a bit more details.
 
 On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
> assist?
> 
> I have created a file that contains:
> 
> **
> #/bin/bash
> cd /library/webserver/documents
> *
> 
> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
> 
> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
> there any steps I am missing?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: using older charger on my MB pro?

2011-03-17 Thread Michael Thurman
actually that's backwards
 it's the voltage you really have to watch. Wattage is only a maximum capacity. 
watts is equal to volts multiplied by amps. If the voltage is the same and one 
supply can source 1 amp and another can source 2 amps, the second one will have 
a capacity twice that of the first. that is why you can use a higher watage 
supply on a computer that only requires a lower rating, as long as the voltage 
is exactly the same. using a lower wattage supply can destroy the supply if the 
computer requires more current than the supply is designed to produce. 
look at it like this. If you have one container with 10 gallons of water and a 
second with 50 gallons of water, you can dip a small cup into either one, but a 
bucket won't fit in the smaller container., because the larger bucket requires 
more water at once, but the cup requires a smaller ammount of water it can take 
it from either source.

it's also like aaa vs d size batteries. both are 1.5 volts, but the d size 
batteries have a mugh higher current capacity, you could say wattage capacity. 
a transistor radio could be powered by both the aaa or the d size batteries, 
but a huge boom box couldn't run from the aaa batteries because it requires 
more wattage or more correctly more current than the aaa batteries are capable 
of, and would deplete the aaa batteries almost instantly. if they were power 
supplies the aaa batteries would overheat and be destroyed while the d 
batteries could run the little transistor radio for months, because the 
transistor radio requires much less wattage or more correctly current.
I hope that helps make it easier to understand why people tend to confuse volts 
ams and watts. 
if you would like to find the wattage of any power supply multiply it's voltage 
by it's current capacity, given in amp or miliamp ratings. most wall wart type 
supplies will say something like 5 volts dc or 5vdc 500ma output  so 5 volts 
times .5 amps equals 2.5 watts. something you might see in a cell phone usb 
charger.
and the big take away from this really should be, unless you want to carry a 
voltage and current meter, I'd just bring your own power supply. Besides 
sharing is a pain!
Michael
On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:01 PM, TIM KILBURN wrote:

> Hi donna,
> 
> You'll need to determine if the older charger has the same wattage output.   
> That is, is it a 60 watt or 85 watt unit.  Typically, if your computer uses 
> the 85 watt power adapter, then as long as the other is the same wattage or 
> less, you'll be fine.  The problems occur if you go the opposite direction, 
> that is, if your MBP uses the 60 watt power adapter, you cannot use the 85 
> watt one as it can burn out components in the charging system.  The wattage 
> rating is labeled on the charger itself as well as you should be able to find 
> this info on the web or within your electronic User's Guide.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Donna Goodin 
> Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:15 am
> Subject: using older charger on my MB pro?
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm going to be traveling the next few days, and will be staying 
> > with someone who has an MB pro that's about two-three years 
> > older than mine, i.e about 4-5 years old.  Is there any 
> > reason I can't use her charger on my Macbook?
> > TIA,
> > Donna
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Re: Getting growl to announce incoming sms messages in skype

2011-03-17 Thread Michael Thurman
except mine, I downgraded to get my text back. it would say so and so is 
typing, but never read the messages, so back I went. I also can not stand skype 
dumping a call in progress to answer call waiting on it's own. skype 5 isn't 
ready yet far as I'm conserned  let's see what the next update brings

On Mar 17, 2011, at 6:54 AM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Dean!
> Skype 5 has all kinds of things for you to set, like new request and message 
> and it looks like growl comes along with skype!
> Even the old 2.8 skype could tell you a lot of items, without growl in 
> notifications I did not know about growl in 5 but all my settings from 2.8 
> staid the same!
> Colin
> Qapla!
> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
> 
> On 17 Mar 2011, at 03:34, Dean Adams wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> Can anyone tell me if I install growl can I get it to announce 
>> incoming skype chat messages like it does with the jaws scripts on windows 
>> version of skype or does someone have a mac script that works with skype to 
>> announce incoming chat messages.
>> Regards Dean
>> !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to short to 
>> be a grumble bum !!!
>> 
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>> Phone: 0243206031
>> Skype: deanadams9
>> Mobile: 0428133758
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
I was looking for a way to cut down on my typing.  Some times the changing of 
directories can get quite tedious with a large directory structure of a 
website.  I've solved it now and will begin making additional shortcuts.
Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 12:57 PM, louie wrote:

> Jeff,
> While in the finder press shift + command + g. Then type in the path you want 
> to go to.
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on 
>> doing stuff.
>> 
>> I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this 
>> happen.
>> 
>> I was running my script with the following line:
>> 
>> sh websites (websites being the filename)
>> 
>> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
>> 
>> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
>> 
>> Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.
>> 
>> Thanks all for reading through.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>> 
 As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have 
 added an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, 
 when the script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff 
 directory.  Is there a reason why a script could not change to the 
 mentioned directory?
 
 Thx,
 Jeff
 
 On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
 
> Jeff,
>> cd /library/webserver/documents
> runs fine in terminal.
> Give us a bit more details.
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly used 
>> directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can anybody 
>> assist?
>> 
>> I have created a file that contains:
>> 
>> **
>> #/bin/bash
>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>> *
>> 
>> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
>> 
>> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
>> there any steps I am missing?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread louie
Jeff,
To cut down on typing go to the folder that you want to be in and Make a Alias.

 On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> I was looking for a way to cut down on my typing.  Some times the changing of 
> directories can get quite tedious with a large directory structure of a 
> website.  I've solved it now and will begin making additional shortcuts.
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:57 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>> While in the finder press shift + command + g. Then type in the path you 
>> want to go to.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on 
>>> doing stuff.
>>> 
>>> I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> I was running my script with the following line:
>>> 
>>> sh websites (websites being the filename)
>>> 
>>> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
>>> 
>>> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
>>> 
>>> Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all for reading through.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
 On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 
> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have 
> added an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  However, 
> when the script is over I am left in the same directory - my ~jeff 
> directory.  Is there a reason why a script could not change to the 
> mentioned directory?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>> runs fine in terminal.
>> Give us a bit more details.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly 
>>> used directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can 
>>> anybody assist?
>>> 
>>> I have created a file that contains:
>>> 
>>> **
>>> #/bin/bash
>>> cd /library/webserver/documents
>>> *
>>> 
>>> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
>>> 
>>> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
>>> there any steps I am missing?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
Yes.  Good tip if I wanted to stay in the Mac environment.  I want, however, to 
have this work in the terminal.  I guess I should have mentioned that but, I 
thought it was implied.  At any rate, my problem is solved and I am off  to the 
races using less keystrokes to accomplish my goals.

Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 1:14 PM, louie wrote:

> Jeff,
> To cut down on typing go to the folder that you want to be in and Make a 
> Alias.
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> I was looking for a way to cut down on my typing.  Some times the changing 
>> of directories can get quite tedious with a large directory structure of a 
>> website.  I've solved it now and will begin making additional shortcuts.
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:57 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
>>> While in the finder press shift + command + g. Then type in the path you 
>>> want to go to.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>> 
 The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on 
 doing stuff.
 
 I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this 
 happen.
 
 I was running my script with the following line:
 
 sh websites (websites being the filename)
 
 If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
 
 . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
 
 Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.
 
 Thanks all for reading through.
 
 Jeff
 
 On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:
 
> You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> 
>> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have 
>> added an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  
>> However, when the script is over I am left in the same directory - my 
>> ~jeff directory.  Is there a reason why a script could not change to the 
>> mentioned directory?
>> 
>> Thx,
>> Jeff
>> 
>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeff,
 cd /library/webserver/documents
>>> runs fine in terminal.
>>> Give us a bit more details.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly 
 used directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can 
 anybody assist?
 
 I have created a file that contains:
 
 **
 #/bin/bash
 cd /library/webserver/documents
 *
 
 I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
 
 I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
 there any steps I am missing?
 
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread louie
Good.
On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:

> Yes.  Good tip if I wanted to stay in the Mac environment.  I want, however, 
> to have this work in the terminal.  I guess I should have mentioned that but, 
> I thought it was implied.  At any rate, my problem is solved and I am off  to 
> the races using less keystrokes to accomplish my goals.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 1:14 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Jeff,
>> To cut down on typing go to the folder that you want to be in and Make a 
>> Alias.
>> 
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> I was looking for a way to cut down on my typing.  Some times the changing 
>>> of directories can get quite tedious with a large directory structure of a 
>>> website.  I've solved it now and will begin making additional shortcuts.
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:57 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 Jeff,
 While in the finder press shift + command + g. Then type in the path you 
 want to go to.
 
 On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 
> The entire point of the script is to dump me there so I can continue on 
> doing stuff.
> 
> I have done some searching on the internet and found a way to make this 
> happen.
> 
> I was running my script with the following line:
> 
> sh websites (websites being the filename)
> 
> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
> 
> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
> 
> Sometimes you just have to stumble on to an answer to figure it out.
> 
> Thanks all for reading through.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 2011-03-17, at 12:35 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> You will be in /webserver/documents as long as the script is running.
>> On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:17 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> As said, I created the file.  I chmod 755 so it is executable.  I have 
>>> added an echo line which tells me the script is executing fine.  
>>> However, when the script is over I am left in the same directory - my 
>>> ~jeff directory.  Is there a reason why a script could not change to 
>>> the mentioned directory?
>>> 
>>> Thx,
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-03-17, at 12:11 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 Jeff,
> cd /library/webserver/documents
 runs fine in terminal.
 Give us a bit more details.
 
 On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to create a unix executable file to change to a commonly 
> used directory on my computer.  I can't, however, get it to run.  Can 
> anybody assist?
> 
> I have created a file that contains:
> 
> **
> #/bin/bash
> cd /library/webserver/documents
> *
> 
> I have also tried creating it without the #!/bin/bash line at the top.
> 
> I have done a chmod 755 on the file but, I cannot get it to run.  Are 
> there any steps I am missing?
> 
> Thx,
> Jeff
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Re: Is the disappearance of Voice Over a unique problem, or do others have it, too?

2011-03-17 Thread Eric Oyen
I don't have much use for AHP/ now, if that changes (I start doing podcasts, 
etc) then there will be a need for it. still, AHP isn't the root of my problem 
here. its a memory leak and may be tied to the older hardware I am running.

-Eric

On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:

> and what about those of us who can not do without it, also how does this 
> explain why I am told that the new I5 macbok pro doesn't have the o issues? 
> How many of us have 13"  macbooks?
> 
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> A detailed search for the problems listed in the crash report indicate a 
>> memory leak involving several libraries. audio hijack pro I can do without. 
>> unfortunately, once its installed, its pretty hard to find all its 
>> components and remove them. right now though, I don't have a sufficiently 
>> large enough backup drive to backup all my data to. so, a reinstall is not 
>> possible currently.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Erick, that's very unfortunate. 
>>> I know that growl causes some problems with Voice over and the way that 
>>> audio hijack pro intercepts sound may cause problems as well. 
>>> If however, you say that you are experiencing this behavior even before 
>>> install applications, have you thought of this being something hardware 
>>> related?
>>> Just a thought.
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
 I wish I was overstating the problem.
 as for installed utilities. I have soundflower, audio hijack pro, growl, 
 Skype and adium. I can tell you, the issues started even from a clean 
 install before having any of these utilities/applications installed. I 
 have included one of the crash handler reports as an attached text file. 
 this happens 5 or 6 times a day.
 
 -Eric 
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
 
> Well well, even if you didn't before, now you are definitely overstating 
> things and rather badly. 
> As we can tell from the various posts about this subject, there are many 
> people on this list who don't have the problem and especially with the 
> frequency and behavior  you are describing. 
> Du to the way you are describing your experience with Mac OS, and the 
> attitude you have towards this situation I have to ask.
> Have you considered that you may have installed something yourself that 
> compromises the stability of Voice Over or your system in general? 
> Finally, I would rather press command + f5 a couple of times to get Voice 
> Over back, if that ever happens to me, than use a poorly written, overly 
> expensive trash like Jaws.
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> zack,
>> I am definitely NOT overstating the problem here. I get random failures, 
>> and not just in mail either. It happens so often that I am seriously 
>> considering dumping OS X and installing VINUX. This problem has been 
>> occurring with such frequency that I might as well keep my machine off 
>> then use it (more than 20 times a day). I use this machine as often as I 
>> do because I simply don't have a windows machine and my powerbook is 
>> linux only now (no voiceover support for 10.3.9).
>> 
>> so, I am left with a choice of having to dump an OS I paid for on a $800 
>> machine and do without some of the tools I use daily or spend another 
>> $1,500 to $2,000 for a fully outfitted windows machine with JAWS. since 
>> I don't have the money, I don't see a lot of choices.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> I think you're overstating the case a bit here...  Yes, it's annoying, 
>>> but I haven't found it that annoying.  I haven't experienced it as 
>>> often as others here seem to, and the times I have, a quick command-f5 
>>> or two solves it.  Yes, let's email accessibility about this, but let's 
>>> not loose our sense of perspective.  It could be much worse, we could 
>>> be stuck on Windows with a screen reader not built into the OS, which 
>>> when it freezes requires us to reboot the system completely.  I'll stop 
>>> now.
>>> Best,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Mar 14, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
 this has been a known problem since the inception of snow leopard. I 
 have seen it on all versions 10.6.x and it hasn't gotten any better 
 with time. it appears that it may be a memory leak or a broken 
 library. in any case, it is annoying as hell. I have sent many notices 
 to accessibility. its gotten bad enough that I may start sending bug 
 reports to steve jobs directly. perhaps he'll give the dev team a 
 swift kick in the pants to mak

some help with mpeg streamclip

2011-03-17 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hello listers.
I've downloaded mpeg stream clip but am having some issues converting videos.
I'm converting .avi files to h264 at 720p. I am using a-ac audio also.
My problem is that once the video is converted, I have no sound in the file. 
I'm not sure if the video is even playing or not although the timeline thing in 
quicktime is moving.
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Matthew Campbell.

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safari on google voice website help needed

2011-03-17 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi all.

I cannot seem to move among the tabs on the google voice preferences page.  I 
see them in item chooser, but phones were my last tab used and now I can't get 
out of phones even though I find the tab labeled calls while in item chooser.  
I have selected it both by pressing vo space and by pressing enter; nothing 
works.  What am I not doing?


Warmly,

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Re: safari on google voice website help needed

2011-03-17 Thread Joseph Norton
Hi:

I haven't tried this yet on the mac side, but, when I played with this in 
windows, I had to do a mouse click to get into the other tabs. you might try 
that and see if it helps. 

On Mar 17, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> I cannot seem to move among the tabs on the google voice preferences page.  I 
> see them in item chooser, but phones were my last tab used and now I can't 
> get out of phones even though I find the tab labeled calls while in item 
> chooser.  I have selected it both by pressing vo space and by pressing enter; 
> nothing works.  What am I not doing?
> 
> 
> Warmly,
> 
> Marlaina
> 1guide...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> Google Voice:  (571) 306-0629
> 
> Skype:  marlaina
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Apple's response to charger question

2011-03-17 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all,

well, I decided to take my question to the good people at the Apple store.  
They have said that I can use the older charger on my Mac.  they said that 
though the batteries are different, the charger is still the same.

Just thought others might find this useful.
Cheers,
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an interesting advance in haptics

2011-03-17 Thread Yuma Decaux
Hi list,

The original article is more veered towards artificial muscles, but go towrds 
the end of it and there are three mentions of the iphone with this technology, 
one presentation this week, and a release in may for the iphone.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20928035.300-rubbery-muscle-motors-to-make-robots-more-lifelike.html


This is exciting 

Yuma 

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Re: What is a right pointing double arrow?

2011-03-17 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello Howard,

The right pointing double arrow is just part of your bank's site, not some sort 
of Safari button.
>From your description, this image seems to have a link that is only activated 
>through a javascript event, namely the mouse click.
Try moving the mouse cursor to where VO is (VO-Command-F5) and then clicking 
what's under the mouse cursor with VO-Shift-Space bar.


HTH,
André

On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Howard Dupuis wrote:

> On my bank's website, there's a clickable element that ends with a
> "right pointing double arrow." (It changes whether you are viewing
> just the past 30 days, or a longer period.) However, no matter what
> kind of key command, or mouse command, or prayerful command I use,
> nothing seems to happen. Is this right pointing double arrow telling
> me that something different needs to be done to activate this
> particular element?
> Thanks.
> -- Howard
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itunes 10.2.1 and volume

2011-03-17 Thread William Windels
Hello all,
I have discovered that the keystrokes: command +up/down arrow (with quick nave 
on) aren't working anymore in itunes version 10.2.1.
If I remember well, this keystrokes where used to change the volume.
The keystrokes are still available in the menu's but, they seem not to work 
together with voiceover?

Or there some other meanings about that?

best regards,
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Re: itunes 10.2.1 and volume

2011-03-17 Thread wes smith
They work fine for me.  I just tried them, and I'm running the latest.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I have discovered that the keystrokes: command +up/down arrow (with quick 
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> If I remember well, this keystrokes where used to change the volume.
> The keystrokes are still available in the menu's but, they seem not to work 
> together with voiceover?
>
> Or there some other meanings about that?
>
> best regards,
> William
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Re: itunes 10.2.1 and volume

2011-03-17 Thread Colin M
Hi there!
I've also had a look at mine!
And the up and down work with or without quick nav!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 17 Mar 2011, at 21:29, wes smith wrote:

> They work fine for me.  I just tried them, and I'm running the latest.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 3:19 PM, William Windels  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I have discovered that the keystrokes: command +up/down arrow (with quick 
>> nave on) aren't working anymore in itunes version 10.2.1.
>> If I remember well, this keystrokes where used to change the volume.
>> The keystrokes are still available in the menu's but, they seem not to work 
>> together with voiceover?
>> 
>> Or there some other meanings about that?
>> 
>> best regards,
>> William
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Macbook pro?

2011-03-17 Thread Kliphton Senior
So what is the macbook pro going for these days?  And is Voice over easy to
learn?

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Re: Keynote Question

2011-03-17 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Ezzy,

Once you've opened the document with KeyNote, use the command VO-Cmd-T to find 
the table of slides. Once you've selected a slide, stop interacting with the 
Scroll area and navigate right to the next Scroll area and interact. Here 
you'll find the Layout Area, interact with this and you'll find your slide.

There's a lot of interacting involved with using KeyNote.

Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast on Pages and KeyNote? You might 
find it helpful.

Cheers,

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Re: Hot Spots podcast is available

2011-03-17 Thread Caitlyn Furness
I really found this podcast helpful as well, just listened to it today.  Can 
you use it in any program, like pages, for example?

Thanks,
Caitlyn

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> Dear Jes and others,
> 
> As a new Mac user, I really found this podcast useful and what a time saver 
> it will be in eliminating a bunch of key strokes.  I have most of my mail 
> from other accounts set to forward to my inbox of one account.
> 
> How would I set up for  example my g-mail account to have its own mailbox as 
> you modelled with your road runner and g-mail?
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> You can e-mail off list at
> 
> sbal...@nexicom.net
> 
> Thank-you,
> 
> Sharon
> On 2011-03-15, at 3:00 PM, Jes Smith wrote:
> 
>> Hello list,
>> The VoiceOVer Hot Spots podcast is now available for streaming and download. 
>> Have fun.
>> To download, visit:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4707788/VO-Hotspots.mp3
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ppt(x) convertion to rtf

2011-03-17 Thread William Windels
Hello all,

I asked already before here about a conversion tool (if possible on the 
command-line), to convert (multiple) ppt(x) files to rtf/html...
Someone told me the (free) program: ppt2html.
After a search with google, this program seems not available anymore for 
download.
However, it is changed to a equivalent:
webpoint portable 1.1.0.

This program seems not to be free :(
Also, I found only windows-versions until now and, I don't know also if it has 
a flexible way to convert multiple files at once and in which format the 
conversion can be done.

Any hints would be very appreciated,

best regards,
William Windels

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Re: organizing bookmarks

2011-03-17 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello Laura,

After you press Command Option B you'll be in a Search Text Field. VO left 
arrow once and you'll find a table. Interact with it (VO-Shift-down arrow)and 
you'll see categories for History (for the list of web pages you have visited 
so far) Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, All RSS Feeds, and one entry for each 
bookmark import, if you did any.
Use the up and down arrow keys to move between the categories.

You probably have been adding bookmarks to the Bookmarks Menu, so select that 
and stop interacting with the table (VO-Shift-up arrow). VO-right arrow twice 
and you're at a different table. Interact with it and you'll see all your 
bookmarks.

To create a bookmark folder navigate to the bookmark immediately above where 
you want the folder to be and press Command-Shift-N. Type the name you want to 
give it (you won't hear it being echoed) and finish with Enter.

To change a bookmark location in the Menu, just cut it (Command-X) and paste it 
(Command-V), again on the bookmark immediately above where you want this one to 
be.

To change the name or URL of a bookmark, select it and press VO-Shift-M for the 
application menu, where you'll find this and other options.


Hope I managed  to be clear :-)

Cheers,
André

On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:38 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:

> Hi Andre,
> Once I have pressed command option B how  do I make the changes that
> you listed?
> Thanks,
> Laura
> 
> Andre Nuno Soares wrote:
>> Hello Laura,
>> 
>> Command Option B displays all your bookmarks . In here you can change your 
>> bookmarks display order, their name or URL, add bookmark folders,etc.
>> Was this what you were looking for?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> HTH,
>> André
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> Is there  a way to organize  my  bookmarks? on my PC I could organize the 
>>> bookmarks by alphabet. can that be done on the mac?
>>> Thanks for the help,
>>> Laura
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello Jeff,

On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
(snip, snip)
> ()I was running my script with the following line:
> 
> sh websites (websites being the filename)
> 
> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
> 
> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)

The first way wasn't working because the directory change was being done in the 
shell that you were invoking (the sh in the beginning of the line), not the 
Terminal shell. Basically you were launching a program called sh and telling it 
to run the series of commands in the file websites and then terminate.

The second way works but it also isn't running a script. In this case you are 
telling the Terminal shell to execute the series of commands in the file 
websites, which works for what you want, but doesn't run the script as a 
separate process and also doesn't, for instance, allow using a different shell 
in the script, like tcsh or even perl or python.

To create a shell script, you must:
1) Create a text file with the "hash bang" in the first line, like:
#!/bin/bash - note the exclamation mark (the bang) after the hash. Note also 
there's no spaces
2) Give the file execution permissions.
3) To run it, place the file in a directory in your PATH environment  variable, 
or do something like:
./websites
where ./ is interpreted by the shell as the current directory. If you had 
placed the file in a directory called scripts in your home, you could do:
~/scripts/websites 
or
/Users/myuser/scripts/websites

Hope my explanation wasn't too confusing :-)


HTH,
André
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Re: Creating an Executable File

2011-03-17 Thread Jeff Berwick
Thank you for that.  It tells me what is and isn't happening and gives me the 
proper way to do things - even though the incorrect way was working.

Thanks a bunch!

Jeff

On 2011-03-17, at 7:57 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote:

> Hello Jeff,
> 
> On Mar 17, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
> (snip, snip)
>> ()I was running my script with the following line:
>> 
>> sh websites (websites being the filename)
>> 
>> If I run it with the following command, it leaves me there when done:
>> 
>> . websites (a dot before the name | websites still being the filename)
> 
> The first way wasn't working because the directory change was being done in 
> the shell that you were invoking (the sh in the beginning of the line), not 
> the Terminal shell. Basically you were launching a program called sh and 
> telling it to run the series of commands in the file websites and then 
> terminate.
> 
> The second way works but it also isn't running a script. In this case you are 
> telling the Terminal shell to execute the series of commands in the file 
> websites, which works for what you want, but doesn't run the script as a 
> separate process and also doesn't, for instance, allow using a different 
> shell in the script, like tcsh or even perl or python.
> 
> To create a shell script, you must:
> 1) Create a text file with the "hash bang" in the first line, like:
> #!/bin/bash - note the exclamation mark (the bang) after the hash. Note also 
> there's no spaces
> 2) Give the file execution permissions.
> 3) To run it, place the file in a directory in your PATH environment  
> variable, or do something like:
> ./websites
> where ./ is interpreted by the shell as the current directory. If you had 
> placed the file in a directory called scripts in your home, you could do:
> ~/scripts/websites 
> or
> /Users/myuser/scripts/websites
> 
> Hope my explanation wasn't too confusing :-)
> 
> 
> HTH,
> André
>>> 
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Questions to ask

2011-03-17 Thread Cheok Cheng Ann
Hi,

Can someone help me to answer the following questions:
1.  how does one sort out the mails according to dates received?
2.  How does one jump from the list of mails from the top to the bottom?
3.  Please advise as to how to create signatures?
Thank you.  

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hot spot expiry?

2011-03-17 Thread Yuma Decaux

Hi list,

This might be something that's already been answered, but here it goes:

Can the hotspots continue to be active when a program closes, and is there a 
way to save them somewhere? Maybe using keyboard maestro or quickeyes?

There are a bunch of hotspots i'd need to have beyond the available digits on 
the keyboard, and i'd like to save them for later use instead of resetting them 
at each session.

Any help greatly appreciated 

Yuma 

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Re: Questions to ask

2011-03-17 Thread Esther
Hi, 

I'll answer your first two questions, since I'd have to check the list archives 
and/or experiment for the current best answer question 3 on creating 
signatures.  Perhaps someone else could jump in here. Answers are interleaved 
after each question.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 16:38, Cheok Cheng Ann wrote:

> Can someone help me to answer the following questions:
> 1.  how does one sort out the mails according to dates received?
• To sort mail by date received, navigate to the messages table of mail and 
interact, then navigate to the "Date Received" column and sort using the 
VO-Shift-Backslash keyboard shortcut if you are using an English language input 
keyboard.  (The "Backslash" key is the rightmost key on an English input 
keyboard, just below the "Delete" key  and above the "Return" key; 
Shift-Backslash is announced as "Vertical Line").  If you are using another 
language for your keyboard entry, you may need to bring up the VoiceOver 
Commands menu (VO-H twice), then find "Sort Columns" under the "Table" 
commands.  Remember to interact before bringing up the Commands menu or trying 
to sort.  The sort command works this way for all tables -- the columns you 
choose to sort can be filename entries in Finder, song names or albums in 
iTunes,  etc.  In each case you need to interact with the table, then move to 
the column you wish to sort, and apply the keyboard shortcut for sorting.  If 
you apply the shortcut a second time, you will reverse the sort order (e.g., 
between ascending and descending).

> 2.  How does one jump from the list of mails from the top to the bottom?
• In mail, the easiest way to move to either the top or bottom of the list is 
to hold down the Option key + up arrow (for the top) or down arrow (for the 
bottom), and just wait a little bit.  You'll be moved from your present 
position to either the top or bottom of the list.  (This tip is specific to 
mail.)  Also, you should know that Option+up arrow or down arrow (not held 
down, but tapped) moves you to previous and next messages in a thread (whether 
or not you have chosen to organize your posts by thread in the "View" menu of 
mail).
> 3.  Please advise as to how to create signatures?
• I'll leave this to someone else to follow up as the easiest away around the 
current bug. 

> Thank you.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Cheok Cheng Ann

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Re: Keynote Question

2011-03-17 Thread Ezzy Bueno
Thanks sooo much, Anne! :)
Where can I locate the podcast you mentioned?

Ezzie



On 3/17/11, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> Hello Ezzy,
>
> Once you've opened the document with KeyNote, use the command VO-Cmd-T to
> find the table of slides. Once you've selected a slide, stop interacting
> with the Scroll area and navigate right to the next Scroll area and
> interact. Here you'll find the Layout Area, interact with this and you'll
> find your slide.
>
> There's a lot of interacting involved with using KeyNote.
>
> Have you listened to the VoiceOver On podcast on Pages and KeyNote? You
> might find it helpful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
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Hi.

2011-03-17 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hello everyone. This is my first time writing on this list. I bought my Macbook 
in November of this last year and loving it. I've hit some obstacles with this 
thing like not being able to watch some TV streams because Veetle is required 
and needs Firefox to run, but as for the rest of the stuff I do, I have no 
complaints. I read a post on Growl and I was wondering what it was. Is it only 
supposed to be used for Skype? And I've also been trying to edit my knickname 
on Mail but it's not doing it so how do I do that? By the way, I have a tip to 
get rid of the whole "Safari busy" message. If you call on the web item roter 
command repetetively, it'll eventually perform the command and the busy message 
goes away. Yes I get the message too, I get it a lot when I check the forums on 
Samnet. They should really make a Samnet client for us. Well anyway, looking 
forward to future messages from you guys. Have a good night.

Shawn

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