Financial Software/SEE Finance

2010-11-15 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi All,

I have been evaluating the SEE Finance program and believe it is accessible 
enough to warrant purchase.  I labeled a few buttons and likely have others to 
label, along with various check boxes.  VoiceOver makes that easy and possible 
with the VO forward slash command and all of the definitions have held thus 
far.  I'm hoping for some direct support from the company, e-mail thus far.  I 
set up my account by downloading everything from my Quicken file that I 
created.  Anyway, if any of you are looking for a program that handles 
checking, savings, credit card and investment accounts and also will have the 
capability of setting up a budget, then I'd encourage you to look at this 
program.  It costs $29.95 and I'm expecting will be well-worth the purchase.

Les

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Re: cd drives going out of style:

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Why not use lossless compression?  Then it's a non issue.  CD music is only 
44,100 hz so it's not like the highs are that well preserved anyway.  You need 
to get in to the super audio cd stuf or the higher bit rate recordings to get 
interesting quality.


On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> for me its the quality of the compression from the download that is the issue 
> that keeps me buying CD's.
> 
> When I can get a download at a higher rate, up in the 700kbps range I'll be 
> happier, and one that let's me download the item within reason as many times 
> as I like, unlike Apple.
> 
> At this time most downloads are 320kbps or less, often less, and yet I rip in 
> double this.
> 
> can I hear the difference, not always, but often yes, granted not on my 
> iPhone headset, but on a good quality home entertainment system, or keeping 
> with the spirit of the conversation of cars, in the back of my Merc S Classs 
> yes, it certainly is notable.
> 
> Its essential that the download providers get their act together and up the 
> quality of the download, and allow me to download my collection say at least 
> twice a year or so in case I accidently delete something.
> 
> once I can do this I'll switch to downloads only.
> 
> 
> On 14 Nov 2010, at 07:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
> Its all ready changing.  People aren't buying CDs anymore.  I dare you to 
> find a record store.  lol.  15 years ago, they were everywhere.  The majority 
> of people download music.  By next year, music albums downloaded, will pass 
> albums sold in stores.  the change is coming.  People will cling to the CD 
> like they clung to the cassette tape.  But once people stop building the 
> hardware to play them, people will have no choice but to move on.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> 
>> 
>> hi, heather, eric, sara and everyone on the list
>> I have to say that for over eighteen years or so i have been using cd's  as 
>> my mode of music choice. however, it has only been the past eight months or 
>> so that i have getting my music through  itunes and transferring my music 
>> library of over 500  cd's to my computer. i still have them all though. due 
>> to the fact i still infer that  technology can crash at anytime and you have 
>> to have a back up to your back up. if you know what i mean.  also i  have 
>> relatives  who are still in the age of the stereo  system/ cd player age. so 
>> when we have party's we often  use someof my cd's to listen to etc...
>> i don't think that cd's will go out of date as fast as tape did back in the 
>> late to mid eighty's and early nineties.  despite the fact that i have saved 
>> some of my music to my external hard drive i have not stored all of it as of 
>> yet. but i do plann on doing so. 
>> chenelle
>> 
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accessible games

2010-11-15 Thread chad baker
Hi is there any accessible games out there?
i'm looking for a casino game.
thanks

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infovox

2010-11-15 Thread Ruud Bemelmans

Hello,

I just grabbed the Dutch voices for the 30 day trial, but after 
installing them they don't show up in voiceOver utility or in the speech 
settings. Am I missing something, because the isntallation was 
successful or is this a limitation of the trial period?


Thanks, Ruud

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Re: infovox

2010-11-15 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi!

When you install these voices, it asks you to restart to complete voice 
activation. This usually doesn't make a difference, but you might want to give 
that a shot. Also, make sure to open up "Infovox iVox.app" and complete the 
online registration for the trial if you have not.

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> Hello,
> 
> I just grabbed the Dutch voices for the 30 day trial, but after installing 
> them they don't show up in voiceOver utility or in the speech settings. Am I 
> missing something, because the isntallation was successful or is this a 
> limitation of the trial period?
> 
> Thanks, Ruud
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm, that's interesting.  We would like to be able to record stuff.  Why can't 
you do that on the Mac?
Thanks,
Donna
On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

> In my opinion, 99% of television is rubbish!  But it can be great for kids, 
> and sometimes it's good to watch news etc.  I can watch live-tv on the mac, 
> but not record stuff, which is mostly what we do.  It is for this reason our 
> mac-mini runs windows, and not OSX.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 15/11/2010, at 10:32 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Vaughn,
>> 
>> Well, don't know if this will make you feel better or not.  we get a lot 
>> more cable channels than you guys, but most of it is garbage.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>>> We do still have download caps, although they're improving.  For example I 
>>> now pay $69 for 400gb of data, supposedly at a speed of up to 22MB/s.  I 
>>> get about 12mb/s.  As far as I know, there isn't anywhere we can get 
>>> Australian tv content (for what it's worth) on the internet, so we're still 
>>> stuck with terrestrial RF reception, albiet digital.  That is, unless we 
>>> pay $50 per month for "cable" which gives us about 100 channels or fewer.  
>>> I think we have a total of about 27 RF channels, but a lot of them are 
>>> copies of each other, in HD or other ormats.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 14/11/2010, at 10:23 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Don't you have ridiculous volume capping measures in Australia?  Last I 
 heard it was really hard to find internet service there where they didn't 
 squeeze the crap out of customers.  It's pretty bad here.  Video junkies 
 and gamers feel a bit of a pinch but if you absolutely have to go for a 
 big name provider you can make do.  Or you can get around the capping by 
 shopping smart and going with some one who doesn't cap.  It's been a 
 while, but if the useage situation there is still what I remember then 
 it's really not surprising that tv over the net hasn't really taken off.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
 person,
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 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-11-14, at 7:09 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
 
> Internet tv hasn't yet taken off in Australia, and I don't know if it 
> will.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 14/11/2010, at 6:14 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> 
>> Personally, I use Hulu and other sites to watch the tv shows I like. It 
>> works well enough for my taste. I've already made the switch. I also use 
>> a program called Rip it to change my dvds into mp4 files. They work 
>> wherever I need them on the mac or iPhone.
>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Also, How would you watch standard TV like news and weather and shows 
>>> you like all on a Mac if the entertainment center was all computer 
>>> based?
>>> Courtney
>>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on 
>>> Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
I would suggest that you google the podcast for the HT guys.  
 They
 really have some really good ideas and they include using a Mac to keep
 track of your video collection.  I infact just purchased a Mac mini 
 for that
 purpose.  I have coupled it with a eye tv.  Good luck.
 Scott
 
 
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 Subject: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
 
 Hi all,
 
 tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
 computer-based
 entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media computer to 
 be a
 Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD collection?  
 Can this
 be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to know what others have 
 done.
 Thanks,
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best looking.  
The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many netbooks feel like 
toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, no words can do the 
Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your hands to really know how thin 
and light it is.

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On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> I can't wait to see it.
> Donna
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it is.  
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
 but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
>> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
>> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
>> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
>> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
>> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
>> model with the change to IOS4.
>> 
>> Just another option for you.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>>> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
>>> windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub 
>>> is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There seems 
>>> to be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and it's 
>>> absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts it's a 
>>> cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
 computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
 media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with 
 our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very 
 curious to know what others have done.
 Thanks,
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread joe quinn
How do u import dbds into itunes?

On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:53 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best looking.  
> The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many netbooks feel like 
> toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, no words can do the 
> Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your hands to really know how 
> thin and light it is.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I can't wait to see it.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it is.  
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
 Donna
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
> but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
>> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
>>> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
>>> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
>>> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
>>> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
>>> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
>>> model with the change to IOS4.
>>> 
>>> Just another option for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
 In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
 windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub 
 is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There 
 seems to be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and 
 it's absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts 
 it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with 
> our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very 
> curious to know what others have done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Donna Goodin
Wow.  I've been schlepping my Macbook back and forth every day.  Not that the 
MB is heavy, but the thought of having something that light is appealing.
Donna o
On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best looking.  
> The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many netbooks feel like 
> toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, no words can do the 
> Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your hands to really know how 
> thin and light it is.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I can't wait to see it.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it is.  
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
 Donna
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
> but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
>> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
>>> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
>>> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
>>> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
>>> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
>>> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
>>> model with the change to IOS4.
>>> 
>>> Just another option for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
 In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
 windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub 
 is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There 
 seems to be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and 
 it's absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts 
 it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with 
> our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very 
> curious to know what others have done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi everyone,

If we are talking about DVDs, you may want to watch out for DVD-encryption as a 
lot of DVDs are encrypted today. I know som software can handle this, but some 
decoding software does not like encryption. I am also curious to know what you 
are using for this, as I use a hardware solution myself through the Mac 
USB-port, making it much faster.

I know we are talking about entertainment systems now, but I didn't see fit to 
change the subject just yet as it falls into the same category.

Regards,
Nic

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Nov 2010, at 14:24, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Wow.  I've been schlepping my Macbook back and forth every day.  Not that the 
> MB is heavy, but the thought of having something that light is appealing.
> Donna o
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best looking.  
>> The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many netbooks feel like 
>> toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, no words can do the 
>> Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your hands to really know how 
>> thin and light it is.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> I can't wait to see it.
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it is.  
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
> Donna
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
>> but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
>>> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
 entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, 
 connects to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I 
 have the older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally 
 accessible but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what 
 and where menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible 
 by any stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of 
 the newest model with the change to IOS4.
 
 Just another option for you.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
 
> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than 
> under windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your 
> entertainment hub is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to 
> access.  There seems to be only one aplication for tv watching on the 
> mac, EyeTV, and it's absolutely useless with voiceover, although from 
> all accounts it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a 
> good option.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
>> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
>> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do 
>> with our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm 
>> very curious to know what others have done.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: pasting date and time in Text Edit?

2010-11-15 Thread John Sanfilippo
Jon,

Thanks for replying.

I'd want a date/time stamp like this:

Monday, November 15, 2010, 14:41

Note the 24 hour clock.

I looked at date and time and text formats.

js

On Nov 10, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Well,  I don't believe there is a built in function for that, but I
believe a one could quickly set up an automation, and then enable it
as a text function to work in all standard text input fields.  Would
you want the standard Ddate as specified in the Internationalization,
or a special format.   It is quite amazing all the diffferent styles
of dates that are available in the International section of system
preferences.

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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Just leave your credit card at home. Apple store is dangerous! LOL
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On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
> Donna
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, but 
>> can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll give 
>>> me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>> 
 You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
 entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects to 
 your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the older 
 model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible but at 
 the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where menus are 
 allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any stretch.  I'm 
 wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest model with the 
 change to IOS4.
 
 Just another option for you.
 
 Later...
 
 On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
 
> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
> windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub is 
> that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There seems to 
> be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and it's 
> absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts it's a cool 
> programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
>> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media 
>> computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD 
>> collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to 
>> know what others have done.
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
I use Tivo to record, and iTivo to transfer to the Mac. I can also watch tv 
showes that I've recoreded using tivo.
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On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hmm, that's interesting.  We would like to be able to record stuff.  Why 
> can't you do that on the Mac?
> Thanks,
> Donna
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:56 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion, 99% of television is rubbish!  But it can be great for kids, 
>> and sometimes it's good to watch news etc.  I can watch live-tv on the mac, 
>> but not record stuff, which is mostly what we do.  It is for this reason our 
>> mac-mini runs windows, and not OSX.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 15/11/2010, at 10:32 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Vaughn,
>>> 
>>> Well, don't know if this will make you feel better or not.  we get a lot 
>>> more cable channels than you guys, but most of it is garbage.
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
 We do still have download caps, although they're improving.  For example I 
 now pay $69 for 400gb of data, supposedly at a speed of up to 22MB/s.  I 
 get about 12mb/s.  As far as I know, there isn't anywhere we can get 
 Australian tv content (for what it's worth) on the internet, so we're 
 still stuck with terrestrial RF reception, albiet digital.  That is, 
 unless we pay $50 per month for "cable" which gives us about 100 channels 
 or fewer.  I think we have a total of about 27 RF channels, but a lot of 
 them are copies of each other, in HD or other ormats.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 14/11/2010, at 10:23 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
 
> Don't you have ridiculous volume capping measures in Australia?  Last I 
> heard it was really hard to find internet service there where they didn't 
> squeeze the crap out of customers.  It's pretty bad here.  Video junkies 
> and gamers feel a bit of a pinch but if you absolutely have to go for a 
> big name provider you can make do.  Or you can get around the capping by 
> shopping smart and going with some one who doesn't cap.  It's been a 
> while, but if the useage situation there is still what I remember then 
> it's really not surprising that tv over the net hasn't really taken off.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
> person,
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> 
> On 2010-11-14, at 7:09 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
>> Internet tv hasn't yet taken off in Australia, and I don't know if it 
>> will.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 14/11/2010, at 6:14 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
>> 
>>> Personally, I use Hulu and other sites to watch the tv shows I like. It 
>>> works well enough for my taste. I've already made the switch. I also 
>>> use a program called Rip it to change my dvds into mp4 files. They work 
>>> wherever I need them on the mac or iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Friendly,
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Also, How would you watch standard TV like news and weather and shows 
 you like all on a Mac if the entertainment center was all computer 
 based?
 Courtney
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 On Nov 13, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
>   I would suggest that you google the podcast for the HT guys.  
> They
> really have some really good ideas and they include using a Mac to 
> keep
> track of your video collection.  I infact just purchased a Mac mini 
> for that
> purpose.  I have coupled it with a eye tv.  Good luck.
> Scott
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
> computer-based
> entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media computer to 
> be a
> Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD collection?  
> Can this
> be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to know what others have 
> done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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speeding up media

2010-11-15 Thread heather kd5cbl
Well, I was listening to some mp3 lectures using media player classic on the 
pc side and itunes on the mac side.  I wanted to know if there is a way to 
speed up the media like there is with the digital players?  Or is there 
another program that would allow me to speed up the media.  I guess I am so 
used to listening to things fast that it get really boring to listen to it 
slow!  Thanks Heather 


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macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
say up to 10 hours. 
I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I am 
getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function of 
voice over help? 
What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 

Nektarios.

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RE: cd drives going out of style:

2010-11-15 Thread Blake Sinnett

I prefer FLAC. But as you know, we have to fool around to get it to work on the 
mac for now. But of course, I doubt Apple will officially support it since they 
have their own Apple lossless format.
 
> Subject: Re: cd drives going out of style:
> From: scott.grana...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:21:59 -0800
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> 
> Why not use lossless compression? Then it's a non issue. CD music is only 
> 44,100 hz so it's not like the highs are that well preserved anyway. You need 
> to get in to the super audio cd stuf or the higher bit rate recordings to get 
> interesting quality.
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> 
> > Ricardo,
> > 
> > for me its the quality of the compression from the download that is the 
> > issue that keeps me buying CD's.
> > 
> > When I can get a download at a higher rate, up in the 700kbps range I'll be 
> > happier, and one that let's me download the item within reason as many 
> > times as I like, unlike Apple.
> > 
> > At this time most downloads are 320kbps or less, often less, and yet I rip 
> > in double this.
> > 
> > can I hear the difference, not always, but often yes, granted not on my 
> > iPhone headset, but on a good quality home entertainment system, or keeping 
> > with the spirit of the conversation of cars, in the back of my Merc S 
> > Classs yes, it certainly is notable.
> > 
> > Its essential that the download providers get their act together and up the 
> > quality of the download, and allow me to download my collection say at 
> > least twice a year or so in case I accidently delete something.
> > 
> > once I can do this I'll switch to downloads only.
> > 
> > 
> > On 14 Nov 2010, at 07:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> > 
> > Its all ready changing. People aren't buying CDs anymore. I dare you to 
> > find a record store. lol. 15 years ago, they were everywhere. The majority 
> > of people download music. By next year, music albums downloaded, will pass 
> > albums sold in stores. the change is coming. People will cling to the CD 
> > like they clung to the cassette tape. But once people stop building the 
> > hardware to play them, people will have no choice but to move on.
> > 
> > Ricardo Walker
> > rwalker...@gmail.com
> > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 13, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> hi, heather, eric, sara and everyone on the list
> >> I have to say that for over eighteen years or so i have been using cd's as 
> >> my mode of music choice. however, it has only been the past eight months 
> >> or so that i have getting my music through itunes and transferring my 
> >> music library of over 500 cd's to my computer. i still have them all 
> >> though. due to the fact i still infer that technology can crash at anytime 
> >> and you have to have a back up to your back up. if you know what i mean. 
> >> also i have relatives who are still in the age of the stereo system/ cd 
> >> player age. so when we have party's we often use someof my cd's to listen 
> >> to etc...
> >> i don't think that cd's will go out of date as fast as tape did back in 
> >> the late to mid eighty's and early nineties. despite the fact that i have 
> >> saved some of my music to my external hard drive i have not stored all of 
> >> it as of yet. but i do plann on doing so. 
> >> chenelle
> >> 
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nektarios,

Three hours for a new MBP is terrible! Did you let the battery drain completely 
once to calibrate it? If not, try doing so and then see what happens. It could 
be that it is misreporting the amount of charge remaining.

Cheers,

Anne


On 15 Nov 2010, at 16:20, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
> say up to 10 hours. 
> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function 
> of voice over help? 
> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
> 
> Nektarios.
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Nektarios:
That sure doesn't sound right to me.  I generally get about 6 hours per charge, 
and I'm always amazed when I go back to my old PC and it runs out after 3.  You 
may want to take that rascal into an Apple store for a check-up if you can.  I 
know they'll do their best to make it right.

Carolyn

On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:20 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
> say up to 10 hours. 
> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function 
> of voice over help? 
> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
> 
> Nektarios.
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Yes, I will do that. 
I don't know if it is possible to let it drain completely since the Os will go 
to sleep before that but I will try. 

Thanks.
Nektarios.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Nektarios,
> 
> Three hours for a new MBP is terrible! Did you let the battery drain 
> completely once to calibrate it? If not, try doing so and then see what 
> happens. It could be that it is misreporting the amount of charge remaining.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 15 Nov 2010, at 16:20, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
>> say up to 10 hours. 
>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function 
>> of voice over help? 
>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread ISAAC OBIE

Hello Nektarios,
In pdas and notepooks if you find "power management" that is where you turn 
off things that you don't need. Now I don't know the odds of a Macbook. But 
you'd want to turn off programs that you hardly ever use. There're things 
that run upon bootup. These are the kind of thing only experienced power 
users will know. I am not one of those experienced power users, but those 
are the things you want to look for.

good luck!
Isaac
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Subject: macbook pro battery.


Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. 
They say up to 10 hours.
I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, 
I am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this 
normal?
I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain 
function of voice over help?

What are your observations with battery and macbook pro?

Nektarios.

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selling old macbook?

2010-11-15 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi guys,

one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS in favour of 
windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working properly and she is feeling 
defeatist about the whole thing.  One of her lines of enquiry has to do with 
selling her current macbook and buying a reasonable windows 7 machine.  I'm not 
really in favour of this no matter what she decides, but I need to know, what 
is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she still has a year and a 
half worth of apple care on the thing?

I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the sd card slot 
on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any way, so 2.2 ghz processer, 
250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5 leopard.

assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would you say is 
fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it up on Ebay, but I can't 
find anyone selling used macbooks.  They are all new, and priced accordingly of 
course.

Thanks,

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Re: selling old macbook?

2010-11-15 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi Erik, not sure if the site is US only, or whehter it's a golobal site, but 
to get a good idea on what she should sell it for, try putting information 
about it into gazelle.com

On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS in favour 
> of windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working properly and she is 
> feeling defeatist about the whole thing.  One of her lines of enquiry has to 
> do with selling her current macbook and buying a reasonable windows 7 
> machine.  I'm not really in favour of this no matter what she decides, but I 
> need to know, what is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she 
> still has a year and a half worth of apple care on the thing?
> 
> I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the sd card 
> slot on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any way, so 2.2 ghz 
> processer, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5 leopard.
> 
> assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would you say is 
> fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it up on Ebay, but I 
> can't find anyone selling used macbooks.  They are all new, and priced 
> accordingly of course.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
> 1-888-255-5194
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Carolyn Haas
You could just keep typing and reading emails till you et the ding and the low 
battery message.:)


On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Yes, I will do that. 
> I don't know if it is possible to let it drain completely since the Os will 
> go to sleep before that but I will try. 
> 
> Thanks.
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Nektarios,
>> 
>> Three hours for a new MBP is terrible! Did you let the battery drain 
>> completely once to calibrate it? If not, try doing so and then see what 
>> happens. It could be that it is misreporting the amount of charge remaining.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 16:20, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. 
>>> They say up to 10 hours. 
>>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain 
>>> function of voice over help? 
>>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: selling old macbook?

2010-11-15 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi Erick:
I didn't realize there were some with SD card elsewhere.  She can put those 
stats into a search on one of those Apple Referb websites to get it's worth.  
She might also consider simply taking it to an Apple store and discussing 
upgrade with one of the reps there.  These people are incredibly gracious and 
helpful.  (As I write, I'm glad I left my credit card at home.  Because right 
across from me is a beautiful new iPad calling my name.:)

On Nov 15, 2010, at 9:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS in favour 
> of windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working properly and she is 
> feeling defeatist about the whole thing.  One of her lines of enquiry has to 
> do with selling her current macbook and buying a reasonable windows 7 
> machine.  I'm not really in favour of this no matter what she decides, but I 
> need to know, what is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she 
> still has a year and a half worth of apple care on the thing?
> 
> I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the sd card 
> slot on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any way, so 2.2 ghz 
> processer, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5 leopard.
> 
> assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would you say is 
> fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it up on Ebay, but I 
> can't find anyone selling used macbooks.  They are all new, and priced 
> accordingly of course.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
> 1-888-255-5194
> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
It's easy to crack the encryption on DVD content, that's not an issue.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> If we are talking about DVDs, you may want to watch out for DVD-encryption as 
> a lot of DVDs are encrypted today. I know som software can handle this, but 
> some decoding software does not like encryption. I am also curious to know 
> what you are using for this, as I use a hardware solution myself through the 
> Mac USB-port, making it much faster.
> 
> I know we are talking about entertainment systems now, but I didn't see fit 
> to change the subject just yet as it falls into the same category.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 15 Nov 2010, at 14:24, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Wow.  I've been schlepping my Macbook back and forth every day.  Not that 
>> the MB is heavy, but the thought of having something that light is appealing.
>> Donna o
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best looking. 
>>>  The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many netbooks feel 
>>> like toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, no words can do 
>>> the Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your hands to really know 
>>> how thin and light it is.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 I can't wait to see it.
 Donna
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it is. 
>  
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
>>> but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
 give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, 
> connects to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I 
> have the older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally 
> accessible but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing 
> what and where menus are allows me to use it quite well but not 
> accessible by any stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO 
> a part of the newest model with the change to IOS4.
> 
> Just another option for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than 
>> under windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your 
>> entertainment hub is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to 
>> access.  There seems to be only one aplication for tv watching on 
>> the mac, EyeTV, and it's absolutely useless with voiceover, although 
>> from all accounts it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac 
>> is a good option.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
>>> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
>>> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do 
>>> with our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm 
>>> very curious to know what others have done.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
It's like electronic crack!

On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Just leave your credit card at home. Apple store is dangerous! LOL
> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on 
> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, but 
>>> can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
 give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 
> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
> model with the change to IOS4.
> 
> Just another option for you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
> 
>> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
>> windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub is 
>> that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There seems to 
>> be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and it's 
>> absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts it's a 
>> cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
>> 
>> Vaughn.
>> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
>>> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media 
>>> computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD 
>>> collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to 
>>> know what others have done.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
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Re: selling old macbook?

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
depreciate the device at between 20 and 25 % per year up til the 3rd year then 
the remaindner 40% for the last.

Thanks
Scott

On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS in favour 
> of windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working properly and she is 
> feeling defeatist about the whole thing.  One of her lines of enquiry has to 
> do with selling her current macbook and buying a reasonable windows 7 
> machine.  I'm not really in favour of this no matter what she decides, but I 
> need to know, what is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she 
> still has a year and a half worth of apple care on the thing?
> 
> I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the sd card 
> slot on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any way, so 2.2 ghz 
> processer, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5 leopard.
> 
> assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would you say is 
> fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it up on Ebay, but I 
> can't find anyone selling used macbooks.  They are all new, and priced 
> accordingly of course.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> User support consultant,
> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
> 1-888-255-5194
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
Exactly!  lol  I was shaking as I walked out of there with my credit card still 
in my pocket.  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> It's like electronic crack!
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> 
>> Just leave your credit card at home. Apple store is dangerous! LOL
>> Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on 
>> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
>> 
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
 but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
>> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
>> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
>> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
>> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
>> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
>> model with the change to IOS4.
>> 
>> Just another option for you.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>>> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
>>> windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub 
>>> is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There seems 
>>> to be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and it's 
>>> absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts it's a 
>>> cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
 computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
 media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with 
 our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very 
 curious to know what others have done.
 Thanks,
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Re: selling old macbook?

2010-11-15 Thread Esther

Hi Erik,

Another site to check is lowendmac.com under their deals links.  This  
web site is aimed not so much at Mac users who are trying to buy low  
end systems, as those who tend to keep running their old Macs forever,  
or who want to know how to get the best performance out of their older  
machines.  So they do cover new product releases, but more from the  
viewpoint of users who want to know how features and performance  
compare and fit in with the (many) older model Macs that are around,  
and also write about software and hardware that's still around to  
boost performance for older models.  For example, they ran articles  
about where, and typically for what prices, you could find new Leopard  
distribution discs several months after Apple stopped selling them.


They run a regular column on the best low end deals for buyers of  
various model Macs from different sources (refurbished, close-outs,  
used, new, etc.).  Since Dan's site is geared to getting prices for  
selling to a reseller, you should be able to get an idea by looking  
for something between the two sources of price information.


HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 15, 2010, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

Hi Erik, not sure if the site is US only, or whehter it's a golobal  
site, but to get a good idea on what she should sell it for, try  
putting information about it into gazelle.com


On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:03 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:


Hi guys,

one of my clients bought a macbook in 2009 and then shelved mac OS  
in favour of windows.  Now of course her laptop isn't working  
properly and she is feeling defeatist about the whole thing.  One  
of her lines of enquiry has to do with selling her current macbook  
and buying a reasonable windows 7 machine.  I'm not really in  
favour of this no matter what she decides, but I need to know, what  
is fare market value for her notebook, assuming that she still has  
a year and a half worth of apple care on the thing?


I think it's the very first 13 inch macbook pro.  The one with the  
sd card slot on the left hand side.  It's not customized in any  
way, so 2.2 ghz processer, 250 gb hard drive, 4 gb ram, OS10.5  
leopard.


assuming that it has the remainder of her apple care, what would  
you say is fare market value for the computer?  I tried looking it  
up on Ebay, but I can't find anyone selling used macbooks.  They  
are all new, and priced accordingly of course.


Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
One on one access technology support and training over the phone or  
in person,

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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread heather kd5cbl
Ah, yes the apple store is down the street from me!  So going for my classes 
is really hard sometimes!  Heather 


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Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi folks, or should I say gurus.

I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which I 
want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This is 
how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?

Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only the 
browser, but if necessary will download a client.

Marlaina

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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Wht program are you using. Navagate to the folder where you rile is then 
interact witht he list and choose upload and it should be there when the upload 
finishes.

S
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
> 
> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which 
> I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This 
> is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
> 
> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
You can use audio hijack to record audio but I would not know hwat you can use 
to record video. good luck.

S
On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:

> In my opinion, 99% of television is rubbish!  But it can be great for kids, 
> and sometimes it's good to watch news etc.  I can watch live-tv on the mac, 
> but not record stuff, which is mostly what we do.  It is for this reason our 
> mac-mini runs windows, and not OSX.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 15/11/2010, at 10:32 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Vaughn,
>> 
>> Well, don't know if this will make you feel better or not.  we get a lot 
>> more cable channels than you guys, but most of it is garbage.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>>> We do still have download caps, although they're improving.  For example I 
>>> now pay $69 for 400gb of data, supposedly at a speed of up to 22MB/s.  I 
>>> get about 12mb/s.  As far as I know, there isn't anywhere we can get 
>>> Australian tv content (for what it's worth) on the internet, so we're still 
>>> stuck with terrestrial RF reception, albiet digital.  That is, unless we 
>>> pay $50 per month for "cable" which gives us about 100 channels or fewer.  
>>> I think we have a total of about 27 RF channels, but a lot of them are 
>>> copies of each other, in HD or other ormats.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 14/11/2010, at 10:23 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Don't you have ridiculous volume capping measures in Australia?  Last I 
 heard it was really hard to find internet service there where they didn't 
 squeeze the crap out of customers.  It's pretty bad here.  Video junkies 
 and gamers feel a bit of a pinch but if you absolutely have to go for a 
 big name provider you can make do.  Or you can get around the capping by 
 shopping smart and going with some one who doesn't cap.  It's been a 
 while, but if the useage situation there is still what I remember then 
 it's really not surprising that tv over the net hasn't really taken off.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
 person,
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 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 
 On 2010-11-14, at 7:09 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
 
> Internet tv hasn't yet taken off in Australia, and I don't know if it 
> will.
> 
> Vaughn.
> On 14/11/2010, at 6:14 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:
> 
>> Personally, I use Hulu and other sites to watch the tv shows I like. It 
>> works well enough for my taste. I've already made the switch. I also use 
>> a program called Rip it to change my dvds into mp4 files. They work 
>> wherever I need them on the mac or iPhone.
>> 
>> Friendly,
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Also, How would you watch standard TV like news and weather and shows 
>>> you like all on a Mac if the entertainment center was all computer 
>>> based?
>>> Courtney
>>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on 
>>> Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
I would suggest that you google the podcast for the HT guys.  
 They
 really have some really good ideas and they include using a Mac to keep
 track of your video collection.  I infact just purchased a Mac mini 
 for that
 purpose.  I have coupled it with a eye tv.  Good luck.
 Scott
 
 
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 Subject: moving to a computer-based entertainment system
 
 Hi all,
 
 tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
 computer-based
 entertainment system.  I of course said I want our media computer to 
 be a
 Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with our DVD collection?  
 Can this
 be imported into iTunes?I'm very curious to know what others have 
 done.
 Thanks,
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Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
HI folks:

Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I have 
to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)

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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
 that and handbreak will handle most anything you throw at it. except for an 88 
gig dvd. lol! it says busy. I have had experience with this.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> It's easy to crack the encryption on DVD content, that's not an issue.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> If we are talking about DVDs, you may want to watch out for DVD-encryption 
>> as a lot of DVDs are encrypted today. I know som software can handle this, 
>> but some decoding software does not like encryption. I am also curious to 
>> know what you are using for this, as I use a hardware solution myself 
>> through the Mac USB-port, making it much faster.
>> 
>> I know we are talking about entertainment systems now, but I didn't see fit 
>> to change the subject just yet as it falls into the same category.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 14:24, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow.  I've been schlepping my Macbook back and forth every day.  Not that 
>>> the MB is heavy, but the thought of having something that light is 
>>> appealing.
>>> Donna o
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best 
 looking.  The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many 
 netbooks feel like toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, 
 no words can do the Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your 
 hands to really know how thin and light it is.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
 
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> I can't wait to see it.
> Donna
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it 
>> is.  
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
>>> Donna
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted 
 one, but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  
 lol
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, 
> this'll give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> 
>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, 
>> connects to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  
>> I have the older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is 
>> totally accessible but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of 
>> memorizing what and where menus are allows me to use it quite well 
>> but not accessible by any stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be 
>> making VO a part of the newest model with the change to IOS4.
>> 
>> Just another option for you.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>> 
>>> In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than 
>>> under windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your 
>>> entertainment hub is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible 
>>> to access.  There seems to be only one aplication for tv watching 
>>> on the mac, EyeTV, and it's absolutely useless with voiceover, 
>>> although from all accounts it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, 
>>> the mac is a good option.
>>> 
>>> Vaughn.
>>> On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 
 tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
 computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
 media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do 
 with our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm 
 very curious to know what others have done.
 Thanks,
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
but the apple store and apple in general are very good products and very good 
people in regards to customer service.

S
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> Exactly!  lol  I was shaking as I walked out of there with my credit card 
> still in my pocket.  
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> It's like electronic crack!
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> 
>>> Just leave your credit card at home. Apple store is dangerous! LOL
>>> Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Personal to win Amazon and other free gift cards, Come join me on 
>>> www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
 Donna
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted one, 
> but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  lol
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, this'll 
>> give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! :)
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to your 
>>> entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, connects 
>>> to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  I have the 
>>> older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is totally accessible 
>>> but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of memorizing what and where 
>>> menus are allows me to use it quite well but not accessible by any 
>>> stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be making VO a part of the newest 
>>> model with the change to IOS4.
>>> 
>>> Just another option for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
 In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than under 
 windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your entertainment hub 
 is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible to access.  There 
 seems to be only one aplication for tv watching on the mac, EyeTV, and 
 it's absolutely useless with voiceover, although from all accounts 
 it's a cool programme!  Apart from that, the mac is a good option.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do with 
> our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?I'm very 
> curious to know what others have done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
I can get about 5 hours out of it buti have the older model.

S
On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
> say up to 10 hours. 
> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function 
> of voice over help? 
> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
> 
> Nektarios.
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello. set your prefs in energy savings for the computer to never go to sleep. 
you will get a warning about it but you can check the box to never show it 
again then leave your computer on when you sleep and in the morning you will 
have a freshly dead mbp on your hands. lol!

S
On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Yes, I will do that. 
> I don't know if it is possible to let it drain completely since the Os will 
> go to sleep before that but I will try. 
> 
> Thanks.
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Nektarios,
>> 
>> Three hours for a new MBP is terrible! Did you let the battery drain 
>> completely once to calibrate it? If not, try doing so and then see what 
>> happens. It could be that it is misreporting the amount of charge remaining.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 16:20, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. 
>>> They say up to 10 hours. 
>>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain 
>>> function of voice over help? 
>>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: cd drives going out of style:

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
and in my opinion aac is way better then flac any day. I'll never use aac  to 
mix with but to listen to music it is wonderful!
On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Blake Sinnett wrote:

> I prefer FLAC. But as you know, we have to fool around to get it to work on 
> the mac for now. But of course, I doubt Apple will officially support it 
> since they have their own Apple lossless format.
>  
> > Subject: Re: cd drives going out of style:
> > From: scott.grana...@gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 00:21:59 -0800
> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > 
> > Why not use lossless compression? Then it's a non issue. CD music is only 
> > 44,100 hz so it's not like the highs are that well preserved anyway. You 
> > need to get in to the super audio cd stuf or the higher bit rate recordings 
> > to get interesting quality.
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:32 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
> > 
> > > Ricardo,
> > > 
> > > for me its the quality of the compression from the download that is the 
> > > issue that keeps me buying CD's.
> > > 
> > > When I can get a download at a higher rate, up in the 700kbps range I'll 
> > > be happier, and one that let's me download the item within reason as many 
> > > times as I like, unlike Apple.
> > > 
> > > At this time most downloads are 320kbps or less, often less, and yet I 
> > > rip in double this.
> > > 
> > > can I hear the difference, not always, but often yes, granted not on my 
> > > iPhone headset, but on a good quality home entertainment system, or 
> > > keeping with the spirit of the conversation of cars, in the back of my 
> > > Merc S Classs yes, it certainly is notable.
> > > 
> > > Its essential that the download providers get their act together and up 
> > > the quality of the download, and allow me to download my collection say 
> > > at least twice a year or so in case I accidently delete something.
> > > 
> > > once I can do this I'll switch to downloads only.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 14 Nov 2010, at 07:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> > > 
> > > Its all ready changing. People aren't buying CDs anymore. I dare you to 
> > > find a record store. lol. 15 years ago, they were everywhere. The 
> > > majority of people download music. By next year, music albums downloaded, 
> > > will pass albums sold in stores. the change is coming. People will cling 
> > > to the CD like they clung to the cassette tape. But once people stop 
> > > building the hardware to play them, people will have no choice but to 
> > > move on.
> > > 
> > > Ricardo Walker
> > > rwalker...@gmail.com
> > > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
> > > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Nov 13, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> hi, heather, eric, sara and everyone on the list
> > >> I have to say that for over eighteen years or so i have been using cd's 
> > >> as my mode of music choice. however, it has only been the past eight 
> > >> months or so that i have getting my music through itunes and 
> > >> transferring my music library of over 500 cd's to my computer. i still 
> > >> have them all though. due to the fact i still infer that technology can 
> > >> crash at anytime and you have to have a back up to your back up. if you 
> > >> know what i mean. also i have relatives who are still in the age of the 
> > >> stereo system/ cd player age. so when we have party's we often use 
> > >> someof my cd's to listen to etc...
> > >> i don't think that cd's will go out of date as fast as tape did back in 
> > >> the late to mid eighty's and early nineties. despite the fact that i 
> > >> have saved some of my music to my external hard drive i have not stored 
> > >> all of it as of yet. but i do plann on doing so. 
> > >> chenelle
> > >> 
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
I am trying to do this with safari.  There is no upload in any of safari menus 
that I can find.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

Wht program are you using. Navagate to the folder where you rile is then 
interact witht he list and choose upload and it should be there when the upload 
finishes.

S
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
> 
> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which 
> I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This 
> is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
> 
> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,  finder, don't 
think you can upload this way, think you can only download.  I'd highly 
recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need help with  
Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and I can work with  you.  

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
> 
> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which 
> I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This 
> is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
> 
> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
> 
> Marlaina
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
The Apple store wasn't my problem making it to class.  The fact that classes 
got in the way of my weed or drinking time was the issue.  Hehehehe glad we 
grow / live and learn.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:23 AM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

> Ah, yes the apple store is down the street from me!  So going for my classes 
> is really hard sometimes!  Heather 
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Re: moving to a computer-based entertainment system

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Wait, 88 gig DVD?  Do you mean blueray?

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> that and handbreak will handle most anything you throw at it. except for an 
> 88 gig dvd. lol! it says busy. I have had experience with this.
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> It's easy to crack the encryption on DVD content, that's not an issue.
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:36 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> If we are talking about DVDs, you may want to watch out for DVD-encryption 
>>> as a lot of DVDs are encrypted today. I know som software can handle this, 
>>> but some decoding software does not like encryption. I am also curious to 
>>> know what you are using for this, as I use a hardware solution myself 
>>> through the Mac USB-port, making it much faster.
>>> 
>>> I know we are talking about entertainment systems now, but I didn't see fit 
>>> to change the subject just yet as it falls into the same category.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 15 Nov 2010, at 14:24, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Wow.  I've been schlepping my Macbook back and forth every day.  Not that 
 the MB is heavy, but the thought of having something that light is 
 appealing.
 Donna o
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> It isn't the best computer for the money but, It's by far the best 
> looking.  The design is amazing.  And it doesn't feel cheap.  Many 
> netbooks feel like toys in my opinion.  I know it was light and thin but, 
> no words can do the Macbook air justice.  You need to hold it in your 
> hands to really know how thin and light it is.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
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> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:20 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> I can't wait to see it.
>> Donna
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:34 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> It is one snazzy looking little machine.  I can't believe how thin it 
>>> is.  
>>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>> 
 Ha!  I'm in the exact same position.  but I think I'll peak anyway. :)
 Donna
 On Nov 14, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> Be careful peeking at the Macbook Air.  I did on Friday and wanted 
> one, but can't justify it since I just got a Macbook Pro a year ago.  
> lol
> On Nov 14, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm, sounds like I may need a trip to the Apple store.  Well, 
>> this'll give me a chance to peak at the Macbook Air.  Oh woe is me! 
>> :)
>> On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>> 
>>> You could also use the Apple TV for streaming all your media to 
>>> your entertainment system.  The newest model is fairly inexpensive, 
>>> connects to your entertainment system using HDMI and runs on IOS4.  
>>> I have the older model which on the Mac side, through itunes is 
>>> totally accessible but at the TV side is not at all.  A bit of 
>>> memorizing what and where menus are allows me to use it quite well 
>>> but not accessible by any stretch.  I'm wondering if Apple will be 
>>> making VO a part of the newest model with the change to IOS4.
>>> 
>>> Just another option for you.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> On 2010-11-14, at 12:13 AM, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
>>> 
 In my opinion getting dvds into itunes on the mac is easier than 
 under windows.  The only down-side to using a mac as your 
 entertainment hub is that TV is very difficult, if not impossible 
 to access.  There seems to be only one aplication for tv watching 
 on the mac, EyeTV, and it's absolutely useless with voiceover, 
 although from all accounts it's a cool programme!  Apart from 
 that, the mac is a good option.
 
 Vaughn.
 On 14/11/2010, at 1:01 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> 
> tonight my husband and i have been talking about moving to a 
> computer-based entertainment system.  I of course said I want our 
> media computer to be a Mac.  Here's the question.  What do we do 
> with our DVD collection?  Can this be imported into iTunes?
> I'm very curious to know what others have done.
> Thanks,
> Donna
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Where do I get transmit?

Sent from my iPhone

On 15/11/2010, at 11:37 AM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:

> Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,  finder, 
> don't think you can upload this way, think you can only download.  I'd highly 
> recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
> It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need help with 
>  Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and I can work with  
> you.  
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
>> 
>> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
>> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
>> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in 
>> which I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  
>> This is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
>> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
>> 
>> Marlaina
>> 
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Esther

Hi Marlaina,

Quick reply before I have to go. Transmit is Panic Software's product,  
and is probably the best paid FTP solution:

http://panic.com
The best freeware FTP solution is probably Cyberduck:
http://cyberduck.ch/
I use Transmit or else I do FTP or SFTP from terminal.

Cheers,

Esther

On Nov 15, 2010, at 09:44, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Where do I get transmit?

Sent from my iPhone

On 15/11/2010, at 11:37 AM, Dan Eickmeier  wrote:

Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,   
finder, don't think you can upload this way, think you can only  
download.  I'd highly recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need  
help with  Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and  
I can work with  you.


On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:


Hi folks, or should I say gurus.

I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get  
there just fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm  
dead in the water.  I tried doing a copy of the file, then  
navigating back to the location in which I want to put it and  
pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This is how put  
can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?


Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this  
using only the browser, but if necessary will download a client.


Marlaina



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THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS TRULY 
SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS AN IPAD 
AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.

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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread louie
Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> HI folks:
> 
> Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I have 
> to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Donna Goodin
I'm thinking the same thing about the air versus the iPad.  Yep, you all are 
right, this could be a very dangerous trip. :)
Donna
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> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
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Re: accessibility of MacBook Air

2010-11-15 Thread Austin Seraphin
You know, you've brought up a good point, as have a few others. The Braille 'n 
Speak did indeed have instant on, and it had it for the exact same reason as 
the MacBook Air. It did everything in memory. I kept thinking of a device that 
uses Flash for everything as a new development. I guess the more things change, 
the more they stay the same.

On Nov 12, 2010, at 3:30 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote:

> I also have good memories of the Braille 'n Speak and the Braille Lite.  
> Besides them crashing and losing all of my data multiple times, I loved using 
> them in class.  I was extremely disappointed when I tried out the Pac mate.  
> It seemed to me like FS took a step backwards.
> Once I have the budget for it, I look forward to working with a MacBook 
> Air.  The newer models definitely sound like a huge step up from the previous 
> iteration.  One thing that I really liked about the Braille 'n Speak and 
> Braille Lite models were that instant on feature.  It made it a breeze to 
> keep up with real live.  I'm glad to see that the Air is taking Mac in this 
> direction.  Another hooray for Apple and accessibility.
> 
> Justin
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
> 
>> I used a Braille and speak in about 1988 or so. The thing seemed 
>> revolutionary at the time. It was so small for what it did and the battery 
>> life was so good. I also liked the instant on feature. I saw nothing else 
>> that had those features at the time for the price. Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2010-11-11, at 5:36 PM, Austin Seraphin  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just wanted to chime in on this thread. I went from using a netbook to a 
>>> MacBook Air, and definitely notice the difference. Admittedly, for me, my 
>>> netbook had a rather nonstandard configuration. It came with a Windows XP 
>>> partition, and a second blank partition presumably for media files and the 
>>> like. I just installed Arch Linux on the second partition and made a sweet 
>>> dual boot setup with a minimum of fuss. I could even access the Windows 
>>> partition from Linux, from which I did most of my work. I put together a 
>>> good enough environment, but Mac just kills it! For me, it feels like 
>>> owning two computers in one, since I can do a lot of cool Unix stuff on it 
>>> as well, including using ssh to control my other linux servers. Just so 
>>> cool!
>>> 
>>> That won't matter to most. Most will care about the hardware differences. 
>>> The macBook feels a lot more solid because of its unibody frame. You can 
>>> tell. You get what you pay for. The Air also uses flash for everything. 
>>> When they say "Instant On," they mean it! It also sounds better. The 
>>> netbook, at least the Asus I have, has its speakers on the bottom, whereas 
>>> the Air has them under the keyboard. I think the unibody frame also acts as 
>>> a sort of resonance chamber or something, it seems to help the sound 
>>> instead of hindering it. Oh and of course, unlike a Windows or Linux 
>>> netbook, you can actually use the trackpad! Don't get me wrong, I loved the 
>>> setup I created, and still have to find some ways of doing some things on 
>>> the Mac, but for me the Air just seemed like a no-brainer!
>>> 
>>> As for comparing the Air to notetakers, I never really got into reading 
>>> braille displays, so it didn't really bother me. I just got a sweet case 
>>> and now have the whole notetaking thing covered too. I just have to find 
>>> the best ways to take the notes! I like MacJournal for journaling and 
>>> blogging. TextEdit works for quick things. I know little of Pages, but will 
>>> want to. Either way, for me, the MacBook Air seems like the perfect 
>>> computer and notetaker. I still have a place in my heart for the Braille 'n 
>>> Speak though.
>>> 
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Oh Sorry Dan; I read your first msg on iPhone and it didn't see the link for 
some odd reason.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,  finder, don't 
think you can upload this way, think you can only download.  I'd highly 
recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need help with  
Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and I can work with  you.  

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
> 
> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in which 
> I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  This 
> is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
> 
> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
> 
> Marlaina
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Syncing folders over the Air

2010-11-15 Thread Austin Seraphin
Ok. The other night, I felt very proud that I figured out how to get file 
sharing working. I would never have dared to set up a Linux or Windows network 
for the first time at 03:30 in the morning, but once again Apple came to the 
rescue. It even speaks FTP and someone on Twitter even said NFS. Wow! So I can 
see my iMac from my MacBook Air, very good.

Now, I want to figure out a way to keep folders in sync. Specifically, if I 
make a change in my documents folder, I want to automagically reflect over the 
network as soon as possible. If I change something on the Air, I want it to go 
to the iMac. If I change something on the iMac, I want it to change the next 
time I open up the Air. I've seen a few apps and tried one, but couldn't access 
it very well, and thought I'd ask the list. Any thoughts?
I hoped MobileMe would do this, but no dice, at least according to the Apple 
guy. In Linux I would set up a  rsync cron job or something.

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accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Westbrook
I was just wondering if any of you have had luck with wordpress.com to
create blog posts?  The write a post page seems pretty hard to figure out
and I didn't know if there was an alternate version somewhere.

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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Jeff Berwick
When you connect to you admin panel, select the "users" link.  In there you can 
turn off the wysiwyg editor and you can then enter in your HTML directly.  It 
is pretty accessible.
Jeff

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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah the is no upolad in safari. Yo will need to use trasnmit or terminal.

Good luck.
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> I am trying to do this with safari.  There is no upload in any of safari 
> menus that I can find.
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> Wht program are you using. Navagate to the folder where you rile is then 
> interact witht he list and choose upload and it should be there when the 
> upload finishes.
> 
> S
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>> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
>> 
>> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
>> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
>> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in 
>> which I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  
>> This is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
>> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
>> 
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Re: Doing a put in the land of ftp

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Yeah I love transmit. I did a short podcast at http://marrie.podbean.com. You 
will need to look in the archives and I believe there is one at 
http://gwennacast.com but I can't remember.

S
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> Hi marlaina,  I'm assuming you're trying  to do  this via the ,  finder, 
> don't think you can upload this way, think you can only download.  I'd highly 
> recommend checking out Transmit  from  http://panic.com
> It's an absolutely excellent client.  Hope that helps.  If you need help with 
>  Transmit if you decide to get it, email me off  list and I can work with  
> you.  
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks, or should I say gurus.
>> 
>> I need to ftp a file to the ACB Radio incoming folder.  I can get there just 
>> fine, navigate to the file I want to put, but then I'm dead in the water.  I 
>> tried doing a copy of the file, then navigating back to the location in 
>> which I want to put it and pressing cmd-v to paste but all I get is a beep.  
>> This is how put can be accomplished in windows; how do I do it with Mac?
>> 
>> Thanks again for all the help.  I'd prefer to be able to do this using only 
>> the browser, but if necessary will download a client.
>> 
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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi!

If you are going to use Wordpress, I'd recommend using MarsEdit for your 
posting, editing, etc. it handles all of those features, and a lot more and is 
rather advanced. It also works with many other services.

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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi Kimberly,

Yikes, all those caps. You may want to turn that off. :P

As for the iPad vs. Macbook Air, I've never seen either machine so I can't 
comment. I'd assume you can get them in Denmark, too, except the iPad. I'm a 
little sad about that, but oh well I suppose.

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> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Addressbook disappearing on Iphone

2010-11-15 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi all,

I'm not sure if this is the right list to post to. So I apologize in  advance. 
I tried to sync my contacts this morning, and two contacts that previously 
existed on my Iphone are gone. Where did they go? Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. Have a wonderful day.

Cheerfully,
Allison

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VLC

2010-11-15 Thread louie
Hi all VLC users.
How do you make a play list for VLC?
Thanks for any help.

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Re: Addressbook disappearing on Iphone

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Are they on your mac address book? if not they might have been removed that way.

Take care.

s
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> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list to post to. So I apologize in  
> advance. I tried to sync my contacts this morning, and two contacts that 
> previously existed on my Iphone are gone. Where did they go? Any help would 
> be greatly appreciated. Have a wonderful day.
> 
> Cheerfully,
> Allison
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Adium problem

2010-11-15 Thread Daniel Rowe
Hi all,
for  some reason,Adium has started acting  strangely.

More often than not, the vO cursor will get stuck in the message history 
window. This happens when I'm moving between messages, and it'll randomly stick 
on one and nothing I can do will move it.  It's like it finds invisible window 
boarders
I'm not accidentally interacting with the text of a message.
I'm running the latest stable version of Adium under Mac OS 10.6.5 with the 
latest version of Safari and Webkit.
Has anyone come across this problem and have any work arounds?
Thanks in advance,

Dannie.

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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
hits bag?

On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

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> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
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Re: Syncing folders over the Air

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Have you considered the security implications of what you've set up?

On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> Ok. The other night, I felt very proud that I figured out how to get file 
> sharing working. I would never have dared to set up a Linux or Windows 
> network for the first time at 03:30 in the morning, but once again Apple came 
> to the rescue. It even speaks FTP and someone on Twitter even said NFS. Wow! 
> So I can see my iMac from my MacBook Air, very good.
> 
> Now, I want to figure out a way to keep folders in sync. Specifically, if I 
> make a change in my documents folder, I want to automagically reflect over 
> the network as soon as possible. If I change something on the Air, I want it 
> to go to the iMac. If I change something on the iMac, I want it to change the 
> next time I open up the Air. I've seen a few apps and tried one, but couldn't 
> access it very well, and thought I'd ask the list. Any thoughts?
> I hoped MobileMe would do this, but no dice, at least according to the Apple 
> guy. In Linux I would set up a  rsync cron job or something.
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hey Scott:
Too much stereotyping for my taste.  It's ghe ladies that are calling these 
electronic beasts sexy so they can't all be chicks.  Otherwise, Alex will start 
throwing tantrums and Jaws will try to eat Apples and Oh my achin' Mac!

:)

Carolyn
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> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
> hits bag?
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
>> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Re: macbook pro battery.

2010-11-15 Thread Braille
Check with coconut battery,  a small app that gives some information about your 
battery. You can download it here: 
http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/

Second, open system preference, account, and log in items, and make sure that 
only necessary apps are running.

Thirdly, VO uses nearly 10 percent of CPU power and the speech engine uses 
about the same level.  Even though the number fluctuates a bit, this is way 
higher usage than open two flash based websites. Apple often says that flash 
contents reduce battery life in half. So, see where the ballpark should be at.
Finally, the hour reading from the task bar is only estimation. If you turn 
your machine, does not touch anything for about 2 minutes, check the number, 
and you will likely to see near 10 hours of calculation, whereas you open a 
couple of apps with keyboard commends and check it, and it will say 3 hours 
with 99 percent of battery life.
Accurate usage can only be measured with real clock, from the minute you turn 
your machine on, to the minute that it does not say any longer without power 
supply.
Hope this helps.

I am using 13 inch macbook pro and it has 5700 mah battery and I am getting 
between 3:45 to 5:30 out of it and the battery has 15 full cycle counts.
Hope this helps.
  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> I can get about 5 hours out of it buti have the older model.
> 
> S
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hello list. This computer has long battery life according to the specs. They 
>> say up to 10 hours. 
>> I new that this is not true, especially for us voice over users. However, I 
>> am getting about 3 hours when the battery is fully charged. Is this normal? 
>> I of course have my screen brightness to 0. Will the screen curtain function 
>> of voice over help? 
>> What are your observations with battery and macbook pro? 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
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Re: Adium problem

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
yeah same thing is happening to me. Maybe try emailing feedb...@adium.im and 
telling them about it. I cannot reproduce this all the time but when it does 
happen it is annoying!
On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:

> Hi all,
> for  some reason,  Adium has started acting  strangely.
> 
> More often than not, the vO cursor will get stuck in the message history 
> window. This happens when I'm moving between messages, and it'll randomly 
> stick on one and nothing I can do will move it.  It's like it finds invisible 
> window boarders
> I'm not accidentally interacting with the text of a message.
> I'm running the latest stable version of Adium under Mac OS 10.6.5 with the 
> latest version of Safari and Webkit.
> Has anyone come across this problem and have any work arounds?
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Dannie.
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Hai Nguyen
Scott, 
I find your message to be very offensive, tasteless, and sexist, as well as 
being  entirely off topic.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
> hits bag?
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
>> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Fun fun fun with Alex :)

2010-11-15 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi everyone:
Ok, I have always  been intrigued by the idea of emoticons, and I was just 
blown away when I first heard Alex read the smiley emoticon.  Well, of course 
there are tons of these.  But, as a blind person, I never had a clue about how 
they were represented, nor did I care.  But, with Vo making me laugh every time 
I encountered a smiley, I finally broke down and had to find out how to teach 
him some new ones.
So, I found a list of emoticons, and interacted with the text to learn how 
differing ones are made.  Perhaps I have too much time on my hands, but I've 
had a great time discovering the kinds of things, (some naughty and some nice) 
that people can make out of simple text characters.  
What we did today in class was to go into VO Utilities, speech and 
pronunciation where you can add new ones.  Interesting, unless Alex is set to 
recognize them, a blind user would never know they're even there!  So, someone 
could send some very interesting messages and we'd be none the wiser.:(

I don't know if Jaws has this capability, but I've never had my pc throw 
smileys or other text-based representations at me in this way.  So, I thought 
others might appreciate this as well.
It would be interesting
to see if others are using others besides smiley and frown.  

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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
Nick, I humbly apologize for the all caps message.  I get so crazy typing some 
times. .  :)
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Kimberly,
> 
> Yikes, all those caps. You may want to turn that off. :P
> 
> As for the iPad vs. Macbook Air, I've never seen either machine so I can't 
> comment. I'd assume you can get them in Denmark, too, except the iPad. I'm a 
> little sad about that, but oh well I suppose.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> Facebook
> Twitter
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> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
> AIM: cincinster
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> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
>> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
Or, the Mac is that gorgeous hunk next door, and the PC is that overweight, 
balding, guy across the street, who mows his grass with his shirt off revealing 
his enormous, flabby, white beer gut?  :)
On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
> hits bag?
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND HAS 
>> AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Re: Fun fun fun with Alex :)

2010-11-15 Thread heather kd5cbl
Woe, never put Alex in the same boat as jaws, jaws might be thrown overboard 
and eaten at the supper table!  That is real cool, never knew what those 
emoticons looked like, w have to check out!  Heather 


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VO keyboard commands for IOS devices

2010-11-15 Thread Frank Ventura
Hi all, now that IOS 4.x is a reality for most IOS devices, and probably
all by the end of the month. Is there somewhere I can find a list of VO
keyboard commands for use  with IOS devices when using a Bluetooth
keyboard?
Thank you very much
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Re: VO keyboard commands for IOS devices

2010-11-15 Thread Matt McCubbin

Frank,
Please visit
http://www.hllf.net/70
For a comprehensive list of keyboard commands with VO in iOS.
Hope this helps.
Best regards,
Matt

On 11/15/2010 4:53 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:

Hi all, now that IOS 4.x is a reality for most IOS devices, and probably
all by the end of the month. Is there somewhere I can find a list of VO
keyboard commands for use  with IOS devices when using a Bluetooth
keyboard?
Thank you very much
Frank



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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
Thanks!  Wonder why they didn't just put it under the file menu?  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:

> Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
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>> HI folks:
>> 
>> Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
>> have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Austin Seraphin
Hi. I run wordpress on my own server, and love it. http://behindthecurtain.us

You might like to check out MacJournal from http://marinersoftware.com. You get 
a free 15-day trial or something. Among other things, it lets you import and 
export to Wordpress. I have a whole journal which more or less mirrors my blog. 
I can write a new entry and upload it. I can even edit it and it will update 
the entry. It lets you do tags and categories too. I really like it, and it 
does make things easier. For site admin stuff though, you will have to deal 
with the admin panel and all that. It might seem daunting at first, but you'll 
get used to it once you learn your way around a little, and learn about the 
different components of a wordpress blog.

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> blog posts?  The write a post page seems pretty hard to figure out and I 
> didn't know if there was an alternate version somewhere.
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Re: Syncing folders over the Air

2010-11-15 Thread Austin Seraphin
Yes. I set up user permissions so only I can access the directory, and ftp only 
works locally. Anything else I should consider?

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> Have you considered the security implications of what you've set up?
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
> 
>> Ok. The other night, I felt very proud that I figured out how to get file 
>> sharing working. I would never have dared to set up a Linux or Windows 
>> network for the first time at 03:30 in the morning, but once again Apple 
>> came to the rescue. It even speaks FTP and someone on Twitter even said NFS. 
>> Wow! So I can see my iMac from my MacBook Air, very good.
>> 
>> Now, I want to figure out a way to keep folders in sync. Specifically, if I 
>> make a change in my documents folder, I want to automagically reflect over 
>> the network as soon as possible. If I change something on the Air, I want it 
>> to go to the iMac. If I change something on the iMac, I want it to change 
>> the next time I open up the Air. I've seen a few apps and tried one, but 
>> couldn't access it very well, and thought I'd ask the list. Any thoughts?
>> I hoped MobileMe would do this, but no dice, at least according to the Apple 
>> guy. In Linux I would set up a  rsync cron job or something.
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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
I tried this and nothing happened.  I didn't get the dialog to browse for the 
folder.  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:

> Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> HI folks:
>> 
>> Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
>> have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: Adium problem

2010-11-15 Thread Brett Campbell
I share the same experience.  It started after the latest update.  I've found 
that if I turn curser tracking off, I can navigate the conversation without 
getting stuck.  I'd rather not have to turn curser tracking off though, I 
always forget to turn it back on.


Brett C.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:

> Hi all,
> for  some reason,  Adium has started acting  strangely.
> 
> More often than not, the vO cursor will get stuck in the message history 
> window. This happens when I'm moving between messages, and it'll randomly 
> stick on one and nothing I can do will move it.  It's like it finds invisible 
> window boarders
> I'm not accidentally interacting with the text of a message.
> I'm running the latest stable version of Adium under Mac OS 10.6.5 with the 
> latest version of Safari and Webkit.
> Has anyone come across this problem and have any work arounds?
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Dannie.
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
That's a great point.  I only can speak for the women angle so I'll leave the 
mail analogies to you.

:)

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hey Scott:
> Too much stereotyping for my taste.  It's ghe ladies that are calling these 
> electronic beasts sexy so they can't all be chicks.  Otherwise, Alex will 
> start throwing tantrums and Jaws will try to eat Apples and Oh my achin' Mac!
> 
> :)
> 
> Carolyn
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
>> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
>> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
>> hits bag?
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND 
>>> HAS AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Christina
I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the best 
of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come is 
getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and may 
be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but it's the 
general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've read 
everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this error 
message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently have a pop 
gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar settings for 
the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the gmail side I did 
enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else set up the first gmail 
account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out how to set up the second 
account on my own.

Thanks for any hints,
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Here's a shocker for you, I don't give a flying you know what.

Delete it remember that's the key in the upper right hand of your keyboard.  In 
fact, it takes a lot less energy to hit that key than it does to send a 
meaningless rant.

Must have found a whale.:)

So back at you, I find your rant highly offensive, uneducated and a reflection 
of a lack of funny bone which should be a capitol offense.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:

> Scott, 
> I find your message to be very offensive, tasteless, and sexist, as well as 
> being  entirely off topic.
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
>> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
>> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
>> hits bag?
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND 
>>> HAS AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
That's fantastic!

I love it!

Great analogy.

Be careful though, some people will get their panties in a twist.

Speaking on behalf of tall fat balding white guys everywhere though I liked it 
and I promise to keep my shirt on for everyone's benefit.:)

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> Or, the Mac is that gorgeous hunk next door, and the PC is that overweight, 
> balding, guy across the street, who mows his grass with his shirt off 
> revealing his enormous, flabby, white beer gut?  :)
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
>> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that everyone 
>> wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating chips when she 
>> hits bag?
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
>>> TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND 
>>> HAS AN IPAD AND I PLAY WITH IT OCCASIONALLY, BUT I'D RATHER THE AIR.
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Could you include with a response your settings that you are using.

Are you using the ssl configuration and are you using the ports google 
specified in their doc?

I'd be happy to review the settings against mine if you'd be so kind as to post 
them.

Thanks
Scott

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> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
> apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the best 
> of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come is 
> getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and may 
> be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but it's the 
> general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've read 
> everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this error 
> message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently have a 
> pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar settings 
> for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the gmail side I 
> did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else set up the first 
> gmail account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out how to set up the 
> second account on my own.
> 
> Thanks for any hints,
> Christina
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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread louie
What you do:
After opening vlc go to the play back menu and click Add Folder to Playlist .
Or do command pluss.
Now go to the file menu an go to open file.
Pick the folder and it should play.
Took me some time to figure this one out.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> I tried this and nothing happened.  I didn't get the dialog to browse for the 
> folder.  
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI folks:
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
>>> have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: THE MAC BEING LIKE CRACK DISCUSSION

2010-11-15 Thread Hai Nguyen
Actually,
Since I am on a number of these list, I have quite a few canned responses for 
people such as your self. I use a nifty little application called Text expander 
which allows me to type messages like this one with only 3 keystrokes.
http://smilesoftware.com/TextExpander/
On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Here's a shocker for you, I don't give a flying you know what.
> 
> Delete it remember that's the key in the upper right hand of your keyboard.  
> In fact, it takes a lot less energy to hit that key than it does to send a 
> meaningless rant.
> 
> Must have found a whale.:)
> 
> So back at you, I find your rant highly offensive, uneducated and a 
> reflection of a lack of funny bone which should be a capitol offense.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Hai Nguyen wrote:
> 
>> Scott, 
>> I find your message to be very offensive, tasteless, and sexist, as well as 
>> being  entirely off topic.
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> So if we extend the Mac and Sex analogy would that be something like
>>> A Mac Air is that cute lil Asian girl that works up on floor 6 that 
>>> everyone wants and the PC is the fat white chick who can't stop eating 
>>> chips when she hits bag?
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 I'VE NEVER REALLY LIKED THE ELECTRONICS AND SEX ANALGY, BUT THAT AIR WAS 
 TRULY SEXY.  LOL  I WOULD RATHER THAT THAN AN IPAD ACTUALLY.  MY HUSBAND 
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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
Ah ha!  I'll try that.  Not very intuitive is it?
On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:19 PM, louie wrote:

> What you do:
> After opening vlc go to the play back menu and click Add Folder to Playlist .
> Or do command pluss.
> Now go to the file menu an go to open file.
> Pick the folder and it should play.
> Took me some time to figure this one out.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I tried this and nothing happened.  I didn't get the dialog to browse for 
>> the folder.  
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 HI folks:
 
 Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
 have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
 
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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread Kimberly thurman
That works great.   Now, how do I see the files in VLC that are in the play 
list.  All I see are unlabeled buttons and check boxes.  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:19 PM, louie wrote:

> What you do:
> After opening vlc go to the play back menu and click Add Folder to Playlist .
> Or do command pluss.
> Now go to the file menu an go to open file.
> Pick the folder and it should play.
> Took me some time to figure this one out.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> I tried this and nothing happened.  I didn't get the dialog to browse for 
>> the folder.  
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>>> Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>>> 
 HI folks:
 
 Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
 have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
 
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Joshua Loya
Out of curiosity, why did you decide to go with pop3, as opposed to imap? There 
might be a good reason to do so, but I can't think of one.

-Joshua
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:

> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
> apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the best 
> of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come is 
> getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and may 
> be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but it's the 
> general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've read 
> everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this error 
> message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently have a 
> pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar settings 
> for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the gmail side I 
> did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else set up the first 
> gmail account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out how to set up the 
> second account on my own.
> 
> Thanks for any hints,
> Christina
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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread John Panarese
 It should be accessible.  I use it on a few sites.  You might have to just 
sit down and study it.  Also, an application recommended to me, Mars Edit, can 
be very useful.


Take Care

John Panarese

On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote:

> I was just wondering if any of you have had luck with wordpress.com to create 
> blog posts?  The write a post page seems pretty hard to figure out and I 
> didn't know if there was an alternate version somewhere.
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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Joshua Loya
Alternatively, you can try using Mac Journal, but I haven't used it to update 
my blog just yet. I've only used it as a journaling application. Mars Edit is 
nice, though.

-Joshua
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> Hi!
> 
> If you are going to use Wordpress, I'd recommend using MarsEdit for your 
> posting, editing, etc. it handles all of those features, and a lot more and 
> is rather advanced. It also works with many other services.
> 
> Regards,
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> 
>> I was just wondering if any of you have had luck with wordpress.com to 
>> create blog posts?  The write a post page seems pretty hard to figure out 
>> and I didn't know if there was an alternate version somewhere.
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Re: Adium problem

2010-11-15 Thread Sarah Alawami
Ah well tha'ts a work around but maybe contact support and see if that works? 
they are pretty quick at getting back to you.
On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:

> I share the same experience.  It started after the latest update.  I've found 
> that if I turn curser tracking off, I can navigate the conversation without 
> getting stuck.  I'd rather not have to turn curser tracking off though, I 
> always forget to turn it back on.
> 
> 
> Brett C.
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:47 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> for  some reason, Adium has started acting  strangely.
>> 
>> More often than not, the vO cursor will get stuck in the message history 
>> window. This happens when I'm moving between messages, and it'll randomly 
>> stick on one and nothing I can do will move it.  It's like it finds 
>> invisible window boarders
>> I'm not accidentally interacting with the text of a message.
>> I'm running the latest stable version of Adium under Mac OS 10.6.5 with the 
>> latest version of Safari and Webkit.
>> Has anyone come across this problem and have any work arounds?
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Dannie.
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Re: accessibility of wordpress.com with voiceover to make my own blog

2010-11-15 Thread Yuma Decaux
Yup, mars edit is really good for multiple site blogging, media integration and 
generally doing everything a blog requires.

I use it for all of my sites and it never fails me .



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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Christina
The best I can tell I am using the settings explained by gmail.

Here goes what I am doing.

I am going to mail preferences, then accounts, then add new account.

I enter my name in the "full name" field
I enter newem...@gmail.com (I put the actual new e-mail address but it's a 
private address and I don't want to post here smiles)
I enter my gmail password
Then I click continue.

Next screen:
I select pop for server type
Incoming server is pop.gmail.com
username: newem...@gmail.com (I've tried both with and without the "@gmail.com")
Then I enter password then I click continue

Next screen:
I check the check box for use SSL
For Authentification I select password
Then I click continue

Next screen:
in the smpt server smpt.gmail.com is entered
Use authentification is checked
newem...@gmail.com is entered for username and then I entered the password
Then I click continue

Next screen:
Use SSl is checked and password is selected for authentification
Then I click continue

Next Screen:
this screen has the summarery
I check the checkbox to take online
Then I click create

I seem to be able to send a message from my new gmail address using apple mail 
but I cannot seem to get any.  I've also encountered the strange error message 
stating that applemail cannot verify the server pop.gmail.com.

Thanks for any help,
Christina










On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Could you include with a response your settings that you are using.
> 
> Are you using the ssl configuration and are you using the ports google 
> specified in their doc?
> 
> I'd be happy to review the settings against mine if you'd be so kind as to 
> post them.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
>> apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the 
>> best of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come 
>> is getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and 
>> may be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but 
>> it's the general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've 
>> read everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this 
>> error message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently 
>> have a pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar 
>> settings for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the 
>> gmail side I did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else 
>> set up the first gmail account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out 
>> how to set up the second account on my own.
>> 
>> Thanks for any hints,
>> Christina
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Christina
I do not have any understanding as to the difference between the two of them.  
I do not know what pop is or what imap is.  However, I was going by the example 
of what someone had set up for me on another gmail account.  
On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Out of curiosity, why did you decide to go with pop3, as opposed to imap? 
> There might be a good reason to do so, but I can't think of one.
> 
> -Joshua
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:
> 
>> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account to 
>> apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the 
>> best of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come 
>> is getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified and 
>> may be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words but 
>> it's the general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  I've 
>> read everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten this 
>> error message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I currently 
>> have a pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried using similar 
>> settings for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to work.  On the 
>> gmail side I did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  Someone else 
>> set up the first gmail account for me but I just cannot seem to figure out 
>> how to set up the second account on my own.
>> 
>> Thanks for any hints,
>> Christina
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accessible version of audacity

2010-11-15 Thread chad baker
Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i googled 
it and couldn't find it.

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Re: Adding files and folders to VLC player

2010-11-15 Thread louie
The play list is the files that are in the folder that you picked.
If you go to file Open Recent submenu you can pick a folder to play that you 
have played.
What I am trying to figure out is how to make a play list.
I have tryed puttin alaiss to files in a folder but that did not work.
If you figure out how to make a play list let me know.
I guess I will have to read the manual drats.

On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> That works great.   Now, how do I see the files in VLC that are in the play 
> list.  All I see are unlabeled buttons and check boxes.  
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 5:19 PM, louie wrote:
> 
>> What you do:
>> After opening vlc go to the play back menu and click Add Folder to Playlist .
>> Or do command pluss.
>> Now go to the file menu an go to open file.
>> Pick the folder and it should play.
>> Took me some time to figure this one out.
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:10 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> I tried this and nothing happened.  I didn't get the dialog to browse for 
>>> the folder.  
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:01 PM, louie wrote:
>>> 
 Under the play back menu is add folder to play list command plus.
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 10:39 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
 
> HI folks:
> 
> Is there a way to add an entire folder of MP3 files to VLC player?  Do I 
> have to add them one file at a time?  Thanks in advance!  :)
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Re: accessible version of audacity

2010-11-15 Thread Colin M
Hi Chad from another list I'm on!

http://www.icanworkthisthing.com/docs/mac_with_voiceover/audio/audacity_for_mac_with_voiceover.shtml

On 15 Nov 2010, at 23:15, chad baker wrote:

> Hi i'm looking for the accessible version of audacity can't find it i googled 
> it and couldn't find it.
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
When you get that message just accept the certificate and you should be good to 
go.

Also check under advanced I believe it is and insure the correct ports are 
being used.  The gmail configuration tips has the propper ports.


On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Christina wrote:

> The best I can tell I am using the settings explained by gmail.
> 
> Here goes what I am doing.
> 
> I am going to mail preferences, then accounts, then add new account.
> 
> I enter my name in the "full name" field
> I enter newem...@gmail.com (I put the actual new e-mail address but it's a 
> private address and I don't want to post here smiles)
> I enter my gmail password
> Then I click continue.
> 
> Next screen:
> I select pop for server type
> Incoming server is pop.gmail.com
> username: newem...@gmail.com (I've tried both with and without the 
> "@gmail.com")
> Then I enter password then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> I check the check box for use SSL
> For Authentification I select password
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> in the smpt server smpt.gmail.com is entered
> Use authentification is checked
> newem...@gmail.com is entered for username and then I entered the password
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> Use SSl is checked and password is selected for authentification
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next Screen:
> this screen has the summarery
> I check the checkbox to take online
> Then I click create
> 
> I seem to be able to send a message from my new gmail address using apple 
> mail but I cannot seem to get any.  I've also encountered the strange error 
> message stating that applemail cannot verify the server pop.gmail.com.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Could you include with a response your settings that you are using.
>> 
>> Are you using the ssl configuration and are you using the ports google 
>> specified in their doc?
>> 
>> I'd be happy to review the settings against mine if you'd be so kind as to 
>> post them.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account 
>>> to apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the 
>>> best of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come 
>>> is getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified 
>>> and may be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words 
>>> but it's the general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  
>>> I've read everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten 
>>> this error message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I 
>>> currently have a pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried 
>>> using similar settings for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to 
>>> work.  On the gmail side I did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  
>>> Someone else set up the first gmail account for me but I just cannot seem 
>>> to figure out how to set up the second account on my own.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any hints,
>>> Christina
>>> 
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Scott Granados
Just to add to this,
under advanced I seem to have port 995 set under ports.  I think that's the 
default for secure pop but not 100% certain you may want to check that.


On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Christina wrote:

> The best I can tell I am using the settings explained by gmail.
> 
> Here goes what I am doing.
> 
> I am going to mail preferences, then accounts, then add new account.
> 
> I enter my name in the "full name" field
> I enter newem...@gmail.com (I put the actual new e-mail address but it's a 
> private address and I don't want to post here smiles)
> I enter my gmail password
> Then I click continue.
> 
> Next screen:
> I select pop for server type
> Incoming server is pop.gmail.com
> username: newem...@gmail.com (I've tried both with and without the 
> "@gmail.com")
> Then I enter password then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> I check the check box for use SSL
> For Authentification I select password
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> in the smpt server smpt.gmail.com is entered
> Use authentification is checked
> newem...@gmail.com is entered for username and then I entered the password
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next screen:
> Use SSl is checked and password is selected for authentification
> Then I click continue
> 
> Next Screen:
> this screen has the summarery
> I check the checkbox to take online
> Then I click create
> 
> I seem to be able to send a message from my new gmail address using apple 
> mail but I cannot seem to get any.  I've also encountered the strange error 
> message stating that applemail cannot verify the server pop.gmail.com.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Could you include with a response your settings that you are using.
>> 
>> Are you using the ssl configuration and are you using the ports google 
>> specified in their doc?
>> 
>> I'd be happy to review the settings against mine if you'd be so kind as to 
>> post them.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account 
>>> to apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to the 
>>> best of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've come 
>>> is getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be verified 
>>> and may be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the exact words 
>>> but it's the general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is going on.  
>>> I've read everything I could on the gmail website to see why I've gotten 
>>> this error message and also as to why this is not working at all.  I 
>>> currently have a pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've tried 
>>> using similar settings for the new gmail address but I cannot get it to 
>>> work.  On the gmail side I did enable pop mail so that isn't the problem.  
>>> Someone else set up the first gmail account for me but I just cannot seem 
>>> to figure out how to set up the second account on my own.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any hints,
>>> Christina
>>> 
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Re: I cannot get gmail pop mail service to work

2010-11-15 Thread Christina
Thanks Scott.  I have checked the port and all seems well.  The strange thing 
is that I seem to not be able to recreate the error message stating that mail 
cannot verify pop.gmail.com.  I understood that message to be a security risk.  
I will try to set up the account again since I may have been on the right track 
after all.  I deleted the account so I will try to add it again.  :)

I had tried to copy the error message to paste in the e-mail but I was 
unsuccessful

Thanks,
Christina 
On Nov 15, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Just to add to this,
> under advanced I seem to have port 995 set under ports.  I think that's the 
> default for secure pop but not 100% certain you may want to check that.
> 
> 
> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Christina wrote:
> 
>> The best I can tell I am using the settings explained by gmail.
>> 
>> Here goes what I am doing.
>> 
>> I am going to mail preferences, then accounts, then add new account.
>> 
>> I enter my name in the "full name" field
>> I enter newem...@gmail.com (I put the actual new e-mail address but it's a 
>> private address and I don't want to post here smiles)
>> I enter my gmail password
>> Then I click continue.
>> 
>> Next screen:
>> I select pop for server type
>> Incoming server is pop.gmail.com
>> username: newem...@gmail.com (I've tried both with and without the 
>> "@gmail.com")
>> Then I enter password then I click continue
>> 
>> Next screen:
>> I check the check box for use SSL
>> For Authentification I select password
>> Then I click continue
>> 
>> Next screen:
>> in the smpt server smpt.gmail.com is entered
>> Use authentification is checked
>> newem...@gmail.com is entered for username and then I entered the password
>> Then I click continue
>> 
>> Next screen:
>> Use SSl is checked and password is selected for authentification
>> Then I click continue
>> 
>> Next Screen:
>> this screen has the summarery
>> I check the checkbox to take online
>> Then I click create
>> 
>> I seem to be able to send a message from my new gmail address using apple 
>> mail but I cannot seem to get any.  I've also encountered the strange error 
>> message stating that applemail cannot verify the server pop.gmail.com.
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Christina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Could you include with a response your settings that you are using.
>>> 
>>> Are you using the ssl configuration and are you using the ports google 
>>> specified in their doc?
>>> 
>>> I'd be happy to review the settings against mine if you'd be so kind as to 
>>> post them.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On Nov 15, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Christina wrote:
>>> 
 I don't know what I am doing wrong but I am trying to add a gmail account 
 to apple mail and it just won't work.  I have followed all the steps to 
 the best of my ability and I just cannot get it to work.  The closest I've 
 come is getting an error message saying that pop.gmail.com cannot be 
 verified and may be a security risk if I continue.  Those are not the 
 exact words but it's the general idea.  Are there any ideas as to what is 
 going on.  I've read everything I could on the gmail website to see why 
 I've gotten this error message and also as to why this is not working at 
 all.  I currently have a pop gmail account working in apple mail and I've 
 tried using similar settings for the new gmail address but I cannot get it 
 to work.  On the gmail side I did enable pop mail so that isn't the 
 problem.  Someone else set up the first gmail account for me but I just 
 cannot seem to figure out how to set up the second account on my own.
 
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