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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Dave,

This app would appear only to work in North America. I made the mistake of 
purchasing it last night, as did someone in the UK, and for us Europeans it's 
useless. It has no maps for Europe.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Dave Taylor wrote:

> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
> excellent?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
> 
> For $3.99 at 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
> 
> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
> are free by the way.
> Eugene
> 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
> available for download.
>> 
>> hth 
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello everyone,

Please disregard my previous message. I had to reset the country from North 
America to Europe and now it's working.

Cheers,

Anne

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Episode: Living With The iPod Nano 6 Generation With VoiceOver

2010-09-18 Thread M. Taylor

Hello All,

 

In this approximately 10 minute episode of the Candle Shore Podcast, I
discuss my first week with the new iPod Nano 6 Generation when used with
VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low
vision.  

 

Attach your favorite iOS device to iTunes and subscribe to the podcast or
 Click Here to go directly to the article
containing the episode.

 

Mark

 

 

 

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RE: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Dave Taylor

Hi,

Except we were later told that we needed to go into settings and set our
country to UK and it would then work, and we have to do that as well as
setting our current location.

Cheers
Dave


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 8:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available

Hello Dave,

This app would appear only to work in North America. I made the mistake of
purchasing it last night, as did someone in the UK, and for us Europeans
it's useless. It has no maps for Europe.

Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Dave Taylor wrote:

> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
> excellent?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
> 
> For $3.99 at 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
> 
> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
> are free by the way.
> Eugene
> 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
> available for download.
>> 
>> hth 
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RE: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Dave Taylor

That'll teach me to read conversations from the start rather than the end
then! Blooming Outlook! I can't wait to have a ail client that works well
with threads, but I know that won't be long now!

Cheers
Dave


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Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available

Hello everyone,

Please disregard my previous message. I had to reset the country from North
America to Europe and now it's working.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Peter Durieux

Hi

I just downloaded the app and it works here in Europe.
Just overview and addapt your settings. By default the country is North 
America, changing it to Europe/UK does the trick.

Hope this helps,

-Peter

Op 18-sep-2010, om 09:27 heeft Anne Robertson het volgende geschreven:

> Hello Dave,
> 
> This app would appear only to work in North America. I made the mistake of 
> purchasing it last night, as did someone in the UK, and for us Europeans it's 
> useless. It has no maps for Europe.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Dave Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
>> excellent?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
>> 
>> For $3.99 at 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
>> 
>> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
>> are free by the way.
>> Eugene
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
>> available for download.
>>> 
>>> hth 
>>> 
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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-18 Thread Laura Bratton

Israel,
How do you activate the link? When I press Vo spacebar on that link
that you do nothing happens.
Thanks for the help,
Laura

Israel wrote:
> Hi Laura,
>
> I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the source of 
> the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I simply press 
> either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the title and the video 
> begins to play almost immediately if not shortly after.  I have noticed that 
> some times, friends post an HD video such as a friend who was in a short film 
> and when I pressed VO+space on the link, I was redirected to a different page 
> on FB.  The director of the film originally posted the video and when I 
> clicked on the link the new page contained a heading stating videos posted by 
> that individual.  I simply worked down to the one of my friend and when I 
> did, there were two options.  One link was titled "play video in regular 
> quality" and the other link was "play video in HD"  When I activated the 
> first link, I waited about ten seconds and the movie began to play.  For the 
> most part when a friend, posts an HD video, these are the steps I take.  
> Maybe someone has a simpler way to play videos.
>
> Sexy Isra
> Israel Antonio
> www.israelantonio.com
> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>
> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video with 
> > me and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do that. 
> > Any help would be great!
> > thanks,
> > Laura
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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-18 Thread Sarah Alawami

Have you tried vo cmd f5 then vo shift space on the link? Sometimes that works 
and sometimes it doesn't so worth a try. The worst that can happen is nothing. 
lol!
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On Sep 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Laura Bratton wrote:

> Israel,
> How do you activate the link? When I press Vo spacebar on that link
> that you do nothing happens.
> Thanks for the help,
> Laura
> 
> Israel wrote:
>> Hi Laura,
>> 
>> I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the source 
>> of the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I simply 
>> press either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the title and the 
>> video begins to play almost immediately if not shortly after.  I have 
>> noticed that some times, friends post an HD video such as a friend who was 
>> in a short film and when I pressed VO+space on the link, I was redirected to 
>> a different page on FB.  The director of the film originally posted the 
>> video and when I clicked on the link the new page contained a heading 
>> stating videos posted by that individual.  I simply worked down to the one 
>> of my friend and when I did, there were two options.  One link was titled 
>> "play video in regular quality" and the other link was "play video in HD"  
>> When I activated the first link, I waited about ten seconds and the movie 
>> began to play.  For the most part when a friend, posts an HD video, these 
>> are the steps I take.  Maybe someone has a simpler way to play videos.
>> 
>> Sexy Isra
>> Israel Antonio
>> www.israelantonio.com
>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>> 
>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video with 
>>> me and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do that. 
>>> Any help would be great!
>>> thanks,
>>> Laura
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Is this App in ow UK store?


Kawal Gucukoglu

On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 of 
> them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest cross 
> street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI function 
> doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I bought the 
> app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by Sendero to 
> see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  Hopefully a good 
> showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like 
> mobile geo for IOS.
> 
> hth 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
>> excellent?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
>> 
>> For $3.99 at 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
>> 
>> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
>> are free by the way.
>> Eugene
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
>> available for download.
>>> 
>>> hth 
>>> 
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VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Granados

Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  It's 
happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I can 
express the problem more clearly.

When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  Previously, 
when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each row as I arrowed 
up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to interact with shift vo 
down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, the message area but I have 
to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read each row rather, I have to move the 
arrows around to read each field or advance / fall back between rows.  Why has 
this change happened?  What did I hit accidently? :)

Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back a 
full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved one 
character at a time?  What's that about?

Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO to 
factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?

Thank you and I hope that's more clear.

Scott

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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi Scott,

Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press the 
left and right arrow at the same time.

hth
On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
> can express the problem more clearly.
> 
> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, the 
> message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read each row 
> rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or advance / fall 
> back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did I hit accidently? 
> :)
> 
> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back a 
> full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved one 
> character at a time?  What's that about?
> 
> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
> 
> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
> 
> Scott
> 
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker

Yes it's there.,

Make sure to go to settings and change the map to UK/europe in the app.  It's 
set to north america by default.
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Is this App in ow UK store?
> 
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu
> 
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 of 
>> them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest 
>> cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI function 
>> doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I bought the 
>> app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by Sendero to 
>> see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  Hopefully a good 
>> showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like 
>> mobile geo for IOS.
>> 
>> hth 
>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
>>> excellent?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
>>> 
>>> For $3.99 at 
>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
>>> 
>>> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
>>> are free by the way.
>>> Eugene
>>> 
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 Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
>>> available for download.
 
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

So what should I type? something like Sendero Look Around App?


Kawal Gucukoglu

On 18 Sep 2010, at 06:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Yes it's there.,
> 
> Make sure to go to settings and change the map to UK/europe in the app.  It's 
> set to north america by default.
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Is this App in ow UK store?
>> 
>> 
>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>> 
>> On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 of 
>>> them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest 
>>> cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI 
>>> function doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I 
>>> bought the app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by 
>>> Sendero to see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  
>>> Hopefully a good showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn 
>>> GPS app like mobile geo for IOS.
>>> 
>>> hth 
>>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
 excellent?
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 
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 For $3.99 at 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
 
 Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
 are free by the way.
 Eugene
 
 On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi list,
> 
> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
 available for download.
> 
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker

Just type sendero and it should be the 1st result.
On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> So what should I type? something like Sendero Look Around App?
> 
> 
> Kawal Gucukoglu
> 
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 06:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Yes it's there.,
>> 
>> Make sure to go to settings and change the map to UK/europe in the app.  
>> It's set to north america by default.
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Is this App in ow UK store?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> 
>>> On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
 Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 of 
 them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest 
 cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI 
 function doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I 
 bought the app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by 
 Sendero to see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  
 Hopefully a good showing will make them want to develop a full turn by 
 turn GPS app like mobile geo for IOS.
 
 hth 
 On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
 
> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
> excellent?
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
> 
> For $3.99 at 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
> 
> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. They
> are free by the way.
> Eugene
> 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> 
>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
> available for download.
>> 
>> hth 
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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-18 Thread Colin M

Hi Laura!
I think I'm having the same problem as you!
Is the video in question in your friends profile, and does it say view video 
clickable!
I've got the same problem if so!
I tried Sarah's suggestion and it did nothing for me!
I'm talking to facebook about this and one thing they suggested was to turn off 
voice over and then do a mouse click!
I have not tried this yet!
One more thing those facebook short cut keys I posted do they work for you?
I got them from facebook but they do not seem to work for me!
Colin :-]

On 18 Sep 2010, at 16:39, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Have you tried vo cmd f5 then vo shift space on the link? Sometimes that 
> works and sometimes it doesn't so worth a try. The worst that can happen is 
> nothing. lol!
> Sarah Alawami
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> website: http://music.marrie.org
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> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/
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> On Sep 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Laura Bratton wrote:
> 
>> Israel,
>> How do you activate the link? When I press Vo spacebar on that link
>> that you do nothing happens.
>> Thanks for the help,
>> Laura
>> 
>> Israel wrote:
>>> Hi Laura,
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the source 
>>> of the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I simply 
>>> press either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the title and the 
>>> video begins to play almost immediately if not shortly after.  I have 
>>> noticed that some times, friends post an HD video such as a friend who was 
>>> in a short film and when I pressed VO+space on the link, I was redirected 
>>> to a different page on FB.  The director of the film originally posted the 
>>> video and when I clicked on the link the new page contained a heading 
>>> stating videos posted by that individual.  I simply worked down to the one 
>>> of my friend and when I did, there were two options.  One link was titled 
>>> "play video in regular quality" and the other link was "play video in HD"  
>>> When I activated the first link, I waited about ten seconds and the movie 
>>> began to play.  For the most part when a friend, posts an HD video, these 
>>> are the steps I take.  Maybe someone has a simpler way to play videos.
>>> 
>>> Sexy Isra
>>> Israel Antonio
>>> www.israelantonio.com
>>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
>>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
>>> 
 Hi All,
 how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video with 
 me and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do that. 
 Any help would be great!
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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Paul Erkens


Hi list,

I have lookaround installed now, but I need to go quite a bit away from home 
to find out and maybe you already know about this. When using lookaround's 
find intersection, will this announce the nearest intersection, any 
direction, clockwise? Or will it announce the intersection ahead on the 
current street? The latter is what I need, and it is what wayfinder did not 
do. Trekker did, and since I got rid of mine I've been hoping for this 
feature to emerge again. Which of the 2 does it do? All, or ahead?
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Durieux" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available



Hi

I just downloaded the app and it works here in Europe.
Just overview and addapt your settings. By default the country is North 
America, changing it to Europe/UK does the trick.


Hope this helps,

-Peter

Op 18-sep-2010, om 09:27 heeft Anne Robertson het volgende geschreven:


Hello Dave,

This app would appear only to work in North America. I made the mistake 
of purchasing it last night, as did someone in the UK, and for us 
Europeans it's useless. It has no maps for Europe.


Cheers,

Anne


On 18 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Dave Taylor wrote:


Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
excellent?

Cheers
Dave


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For $3.99 at
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8

Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. 
They

are free by the way.
Eugene

On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:


Hi list,

Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now

available for download.


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Re: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

Thanks Ricardo, I'll buy it just because I want Sendero to design an App like 
geo or something similar for the I Phone.


Kawal Gucukoglu

On 18 Sep 2010, at 06:47 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Just type sendero and it should be the 1st result.
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> So what should I type? something like Sendero Look Around App?
>> 
>> 
>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>> 
>> On 18 Sep 2010, at 06:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes it's there.,
>>> 
>>> Make sure to go to settings and change the map to UK/europe in the app.  
>>> It's set to north america by default.
>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Is this App in ow UK store?
 
 
 Kawal Gucukoglu
 
 On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 
> of them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your 
> nearest cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest 
> POI function doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is 
> free.  I bought the app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a 
> feeler by Sendero to see how much interest is generated on the IOS 
> platform.  Hopefully a good showing will make them want to develop a full 
> turn by turn GPS app like mobile geo for IOS.
> 
> hth 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
>> excellent?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
>> 
>> For $3.99 at 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
>> 
>> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users. 
>> They
>> are free by the way.
>> Eugene
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
>> available for download.
>>> 
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Granados

Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.

:)

I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?

On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press the 
> left and right arrow at the same time.
> 
> hth
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
>> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
>> can express the problem more clearly.
>> 
>> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
>> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
>> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
>> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, the 
>> message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read each row 
>> rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or advance / 
>> fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did I hit 
>> accidently? :)
>> 
>> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
>> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back a 
>> full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved one 
>> character at a time?  What's that about?
>> 
>> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
>> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
>> 
>> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
>> 
>> Scott
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker

Hi,

Quick nav allows you to navigate without pressing control and option.  So to 
move to the right and left, you can just press the left and right arrows.  
Pressing the left and down arrow at the same time stops interacting, down and 
right arrow starts interacting.  Up and down performs the default action, AKA 
VO spacebar.  It's a real cool way to navigate 1 handed.  It's just a pain when 
it turns on by accident.  lol.  It happens to me like once a week. :).
On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.
> 
> :)
> 
> I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?
> 
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press the 
>> left and right arrow at the same time.
>> 
>> hth
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
>>> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
>>> can express the problem more clearly.
>>> 
>>> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
>>> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
>>> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
>>> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, 
>>> the message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read 
>>> each row rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or 
>>> advance / fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did 
>>> I hit accidently? :)
>>> 
>>> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
>>> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back 
>>> a full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved 
>>> one character at a time?  What's that about?
>>> 
>>> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
>>> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
>>> 
>>> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
>>> 
>>> Scott
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Sarah Alawami

Quick nav is usuallyused for used for quick navigation without iusing thevo 
keys. IGTis easier onthehands.

S

On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:52, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Quick nav allows you to navigate without pressing control and option.  So to 
> move to the right and left, you can just press the left and right arrows.  
> Pressing the left and down arrow at the same time stops interacting, down and 
> right arrow starts interacting.  Up and down performs the default action, AKA 
> VO spacebar.  It's a real cool way to navigate 1 handed.  It's just a pain 
> when it turns on by accident.  lol.  It happens to me like once a week. :).
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press the 
>>> left and right arrow at the same time.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
 It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
 can express the problem more clearly.
 
 When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
 Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
 row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
 interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, 
 the message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read 
 each row rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or 
 advance / fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did 
 I hit accidently? :)
 
 Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text 
 edit area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall 
 back a full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you 
 moved one character at a time?  What's that about?
 
 Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore 
 VO to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
 
 Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
 
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RE: How to get rid of the preview pain in mail

2010-09-18 Thread Corey Knapp

Hi that didn't work is there anyway to get rid of the preview pain.
Thanks,
Corey 

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Subject: Re: How to get rid of the preview pain in mail

Hi Corey.  What you need to do is find the preview pane with VoiceOver, and
then VO left from it.  You'll be on a splitter.  Press VO command f5 to
route your mouse to the splitter.  Then double click.  If memory serves you
need to use the actual mouse button here, rather then use the VO mouse click
command.
HTH
Darcy

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> Hi Listers,
> I was wondering how to get rid of the preview pain in mail thanks for 
> your time.
> Corey 
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Colin M

Hi Ricardo!
Thanks to your input!
I did not know that quick nav did all that!
I love this site!
Colin
On 18 Sep 2010, at 20:01, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Quick nav is usuallyused for used for quick navigation without using thevo 
> keys. IGTis easier onthehands.
> 
> S
> 
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:52, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Quick nav allows you to navigate without pressing control and option.  So to 
>> move to the right and left, you can just press the left and right arrows.  
>> Pressing the left and down arrow at the same time stops interacting, down 
>> and right arrow starts interacting.  Up and down performs the default 
>> action, AKA VO spacebar.  It's a real cool way to navigate 1 handed.  It's 
>> just a pain when it turns on by accident.  lol.  It happens to me like once 
>> a week. :).
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?
>>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Scott,
 
 Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press 
 the left and right arrow at the same time.
 
 hth
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac 
> I can express the problem more clearly.
> 
> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me 
> each row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have 
> to interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the 
> bars, the message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't 
> read each row rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field 
> or advance / fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What 
> did I hit accidentally? :)
> 
> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text 
> edit area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or 
> fall back a full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if 
> you moved one character at a time?  What's that about?
> 
> Over all, if I get in these weird modes is there a way to easily restore 
> VO to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
> 
> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
> 
> Scott
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good spanish voices for voiceover

2010-09-18 Thread Samuel

I'm looking for a good spanish voice for voiceover. It's a tad
frustrating that ios has a spanish voice built in but os x doesn't

Any suggestions for voices that are cheap but good?

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Re: good spanish voices for voiceover

2010-09-18 Thread Rafaela Freundt

I know what you mean, i was frustrated too two months ago when i bought my 
macbook.
the voices i bought are the infovox ivox voices, they are like 120$ but are 
good though not cheep. I bought the latin american one which is only one voice, 
rosa, and comes with the english heather voice too. there is also the spanish 
from spain voices that are two, I beleave.

hope this helps,
Rafaela
El 18/09/2010, a las 16:51, Samuel escribió:

> I'm looking for a good spanish voice for voiceover. It's a tad
> frustrating that ios has a spanish voice built in but os x doesn't
> 
> Any suggestions for voices that are cheap but good?
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Re: good spanish voices for voiceover

2010-09-18 Thread Allison Manzino

Hi Samuel,

I just purchased the Maria and Antonio voices from Infovox. I think I purchased 
them from Origin Instruments. I'm learning SPanish for the love of my life, and 
these voices really help in terms of pronunciation. I can record you a sample 
of them and send it your way if you'd like. I hope this helps.

Have a wonderful day!

Cheerfully,
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> I know what you mean, i was frustrated too two months ago when i bought my 
> macbook.
> the voices i bought are the infovox ivox voices, they are like 120$ but are 
> good though not cheep. I bought the latin american one which is only one 
> voice, rosa, and comes with the english heather voice too. there is also the 
> spanish from spain voices that are two, I beleave.
> 
> hope this helps,
> Rafaela
> El 18/09/2010, a las 16:51, Samuel escribió:
> 
>> I'm looking for a good spanish voice for voiceover. It's a tad
>> frustrating that ios has a spanish voice built in but os x doesn't
>> 
>> Any suggestions for voices that are cheap but good?
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Google search

2010-09-18 Thread carlene knight

http://labs.google.com/accessible/

the above URL works with VO.  Just thought somebody might like to know.

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Re: Google search

2010-09-18 Thread Nicolai Svendsen

Hi!

Huh? I'm confused. What's wrong with the original Search page?

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Re: playing videos in facebook

2010-09-18 Thread Laura Bratton

Colin,
I just tried going to
M.facebook.com
and playing the video that way and it worked! So  once I found the
link to the video I pressed VO space and the video started playing. SO
try that and see if it works for you too.
yes, the shortcut keys that you gave for FB worked on the
m.facebook.com  site.
Thanks for posting them.
Laura

Colin M wrote:
> Hi Laura!
> I think I'm having the same problem as you!
> Is the video in question in your friends profile, and does it say view video 
> clickable!
> I've got the same problem if so!
> I tried Sarah's suggestion and it did nothing for me!
> I'm talking to facebook about this and one thing they suggested was to turn 
> off voice over and then do a mouse click!
> I have not tried this yet!
> One more thing those facebook short cut keys I posted do they work for you?
> I got them from facebook but they do not seem to work for me!
> Colin :-]
>
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 16:39, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>
> > Have you tried vo cmd f5 then vo shift space on the link? Sometimes that 
> > works and sometimes it doesn't so worth a try. The worst that can happen is 
> > nothing. lol!
> > Sarah Alawami
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> > On Sep 18, 2010, at 8:01 AM, Laura Bratton wrote:
> >
> >> Israel,
> >> How do you activate the link? When I press Vo spacebar on that link
> >> that you do nothing happens.
> >> Thanks for the help,
> >> Laura
> >>
> >> Israel wrote:
> >>> Hi Laura,
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure if anyone answered this but I found it depends on the 
> >>> source of the video for me.  If it is a youtube video they are sharing, I 
> >>> simply press either VO+space or enter on the link which contains the 
> >>> title and the video begins to play almost immediately if not shortly 
> >>> after.  I have noticed that some times, friends post an HD video such as 
> >>> a friend who was in a short film and when I pressed VO+space on the link, 
> >>> I was redirected to a different page on FB.  The director of the film 
> >>> originally posted the video and when I clicked on the link the new page 
> >>> contained a heading stating videos posted by that individual.  I simply 
> >>> worked down to the one of my friend and when I did, there were two 
> >>> options.  One link was titled "play video in regular quality" and the 
> >>> other link was "play video in HD"  When I activated the first link, I 
> >>> waited about ten seconds and the movie began to play.  For the most part 
> >>> when a friend, posts an HD video, these are the steps I take.  Maybe 
> >>> someone has a simpler way to play videos.
> >>>
> >>> Sexy Isra
> >>> Israel Antonio
> >>> www.israelantonio.com
> >>> www.sexyisra.blogspot.com
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Laura Bratton wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi All,
>  how do I play a video that is on Facebook? SOmeone had shared a video 
>  with me and I was trying to play it but could not figure out how  to do 
>  that. Any help would be great!
>  thanks,
>  Laura
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Re: Google search

2010-09-18 Thread Sarah Alawami

the regular google search chrashes voice over. but webkit works with it. hmm 
oddness.
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> 
> Huh? I'm confused. What's wrong with the original Search page?
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>> http://labs.google.com/accessible/
>> 
>> the above URL works with VO.  Just thought somebody might like to know.
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RE: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Dave Taylor

Yes it is. I bought it, as much to show them that iPhone users are
interested as anything. I set my country to UK and off it went. Each app
seems to have entirely different POIs. I wish this one gave you any details
about them like the others, frankly it's only good for finding your next
intersection and how close things are, it doesn't give you an address or let
you get directions there from maps. Voxtrek still has it for most things for
me.

Cheers
Dave
  

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Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available

Is this App in ow UK store?


Kawal Gucukoglu

On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3 of
them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest
cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI function
doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I bought the
app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by Sendero to
see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  Hopefully a good
showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like
mobile geo for IOS.
> 
> hth 
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
>> excellent?
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Braille
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:27 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sendero look around app is now available
>> 
>> For $3.99 at 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
>> 
>> Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users.
They
>> are free by the way.
>> Eugene
>> 
>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
>> available for download.
>>> 
>>> hth 
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RE: Sendero look around app is now available

2010-09-18 Thread Dave Taylor

Sendero did it for me.

Cheers
Dave


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So what should I type? something like Sendero Look Around App?


Kawal Gucukoglu

On 18 Sep 2010, at 06:20 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Yes it's there.,
> 
> Make sure to go to settings and change the map to UK/europe in the app.
It's set to north america by default.
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Is this App in ow UK store?
>> 
>> 
>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>> 
>> On 18 Sep 2010, at 03:41 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Nope, nope, and, nope. :).  For the 4 functions it does have, it does 3
of them very well.  Announce your current location, give your your nearest
cross street, and give you your compass heading.  The 5 nearest POI function
doesn't hold a candle to an app like around me which is free.  I bought the
app mainly to show support.  I believe this is just a feeler by Sendero to
see how much interest is generated on the IOS platform.  Hopefully a good
showing will make them want to develop a full turn by turn GPS app like
mobile geo for IOS.
>>> 
>>> hth 
>>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:
>>> 
 Oh, does this have any advantages over Where To, which is free and
 excellent?
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 
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 For $3.99 at 
 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sendero-gps-lookaround/id386831856?mt=8
 
 Alternatively, I map U and around me, can give similar info to users.
They
 are free by the way.
 Eugene
 
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> Hi list,
> 
> Just want to let you guys know the Sendero look around GPS app is now
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Mike Arrigo

There is an option in the voice over utility that sets whether to automatically 
interact with items, especially when using the tab key. Personally I have this 
disabled, if I want to interact with something, I will use the keystroke, but 
that's a personal preference.
On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
> can express the problem more clearly.
> 
> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, the 
> message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read each row 
> rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or advance / fall 
> back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did I hit accidently? 
> :)
> 
> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back a 
> full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved one 
> character at a time?  What's that about?
> 
> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
> 
> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
> 
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Mike Arrigo

Quick nav allows you to use the regular arrow keys for navigation instead of 
their regular purpose. Left and right arrow move left and right, and the up and 
down arrow use the roter setting. To activate the item in the voice over 
cursor, press the up and down keys together. Pressing the up and left arrows 
together or up and right will move through the roter settings. Thd down arrow 
key pressed together with right and left will start and stop interacting with 
an item. In some ways, I guess it's similar to what JFW does when activating 
the Jaws cursor. I don't use quick nav much, I prefer to use the regular arrow 
keys for the system cursor or focus, I use the numpad or track pad for voice 
over navigation, but quick nav is there if you want to use it.
On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.
> 
> :)
> 
> I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?
> 
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press the 
>> left and right arrow at the same time.
>> 
>> hth
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
>>> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
>>> can express the problem more clearly.
>>> 
>>> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
>>> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
>>> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
>>> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, 
>>> the message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read 
>>> each row rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or 
>>> advance / fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did 
>>> I hit accidently? :)
>>> 
>>> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
>>> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back 
>>> a full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved 
>>> one character at a time?  What's that about?
>>> 
>>> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
>>> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
>>> 
>>> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
>>> 
>>> Scott
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Re: good spanish voices for voiceover

2010-09-18 Thread Mike Arrigo

Take a look at the acapela voices, www.assistiveware.com
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> frustrating that ios has a spanish voice built in but os x doesn't
> 
> Any suggestions for voices that are cheap but good?
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Granados

I second that!

On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Colin M wrote:

> Hi Ricardo!
> Thanks to your input!
> I did not know that quick nav did all that!
> I love this site!
> Colin
> On 18 Sep 2010, at 20:01, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Quick nav is usuallyused for used for quick navigation without using thevo 
>> keys. IGTis easier onthehands.
>> 
>> S
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 11:52, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Quick nav allows you to navigate without pressing control and option.  So 
>>> to move to the right and left, you can just press the left and right 
>>> arrows.  Pressing the left and down arrow at the same time stops 
>>> interacting, down and right arrow starts interacting.  Up and down performs 
>>> the default action, AKA VO spacebar.  It's a real cool way to navigate 1 
>>> handed.  It's just a pain when it turns on by accident.  lol.  It happens 
>>> to me like once a week. :).
>>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:02 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Ricardo, You're a Pimp!  Thanks that fixed my problem.
 
 :)
 
 I appreciate the help. What's quick nav usually used for?
 
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> Check to see if you turned quick nav on by mistake.  To do  this, press 
> the left and right arrow at the same time.
> 
> hth
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct. 
>>  It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the 
>> Mac I can express the problem more clearly.
>> 
>> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
>> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me 
>> each row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have 
>> to interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the 
>> bars, the message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't 
>> read each row rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each 
>> field or advance / fall back between rows.  Why has this change 
>> happened?  What did I hit accidentally? :)
>> 
>> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text 
>> edit area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or 
>> fall back a full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as 
>> if you moved one character at a time?  What's that about?
>> 
>> Over all, if I get in these weird modes is there a way to easily restore 
>> VO to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
>> 
>> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
>> 
>> Scott
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Re: VO navigation seems changed / that mail problem again

2010-09-18 Thread Scott Granados

I saw that option and was playing with that.

Turns out my initial issue was quick nav but that sent me learning more of the 
functions in the voiceover menu which is a good thing.:)

Thanks for the pointers.


On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> There is an option in the voice over utility that sets whether to 
> automatically interact with items, especially when using the tab key. 
> Personally I have this disabled, if I want to interact with something, I will 
> use the keystroke, but that's a personal preference.
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Hi, some time back I posted about a problem that seemed to self correct.  
>> It's happening again but now that I have a little more time with the Mac I 
>> can express the problem more clearly.
>> 
>> When I open the mail App or many tables they don't auto interact.  
>> Previously, when I opened the mail app for example, it would ready me each 
>> row as I arrowed up and down in the messages area.  I did not have to 
>> interact with shift vo down.  Now if I open the Mail app I see the bars, the 
>> message area but I have to interact by hand.  Also, it doesn't read each row 
>> rather, I have to move the arrows around to read each field or advance / 
>> fall back between rows.  Why has this change happened?  What did I hit 
>> accidently? :)
>> 
>> Another issue is that my arrows do different things now when in a text edit 
>> area say editing this message.  Left and right arrows advance or fall back a 
>> full word at a time. Up and down arrows spell that word as if you moved one 
>> character at a time?  What's that about?
>> 
>> Over all, if I get in these wierd modes is there a way to easily restore VO 
>> to factory defaults or have I done something else that's odd?
>> 
>> Thank you and I hope that's more clear.
>> 
>> Scott
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Re: Google search

2010-09-18 Thread carlene knight

I am using the accessible Google search page without Web Kit.  Voiceover 
doesn't seem to have any problems like it did with the regular Google search 
;page. 


On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> the regular google search chrashes voice over. but webkit works with it. hmm 
> oddness.
> On Sep 18, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
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>> Hi!
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>> Huh? I'm confused. What's wrong with the original Search page?
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>> On Sep 19, 2010, at 1:22 AM, carlene knight wrote:
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>>> http://labs.google.com/accessible/
>>> 
>>> the above URL works with VO.  Just thought somebody might like to know.
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Re: Google search

2010-09-18 Thread Anne Robertson

What's this about an "accessible google page"? I just press Command-Option-f on 
whatever page I'm on in Safari and enter my search terms. I have absolutely no 
problem with VO crashing.

To find the results, I press VO-Command-h three times and there I am.

I use google day in and day out when I'm translating so I think I would have 
noticed had there been a problem.

Cheers,

Anne

On 19 Sep 2010, at 05:22, carlene knight wrote:

> I am using the accessible Google search page without Web Kit.  Voiceover 
> doesn't seem to have any problems like it did with the regular Google search 
> ;page. 

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RE: Google search

2010-09-18 Thread Dave Taylor

If you Google "Google Accessible Search" it will take you to the page. It's
a very simple interface and it gives results based more on accessibility but
they are still good. In Windows I find it loads much more quickly than the
regular Google search, but I do quite hope iGoogle works better for me soon,
don't see why it shouldn't!

Cheers
Dave


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google search

What's this about an "accessible google page"? I just press Command-Option-f
on whatever page I'm on in Safari and enter my search terms. I have
absolutely no problem with VO crashing.

To find the results, I press VO-Command-h three times and there I am.

I use google day in and day out when I'm translating so I think I would have
noticed had there been a problem.

Cheers,

Anne

On 19 Sep 2010, at 05:22, carlene knight wrote:

> I am using the accessible Google search page without Web Kit.  Voiceover
doesn't seem to have any problems like it did with the regular Google search
;page. 

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