ITunes 10
I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Hi! I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I > haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I > use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as > every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go > back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being > ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the > rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iphone and scanning products
Hi Nancy, The last reason I needed to get an iphone is the ability to use digital eyes. I hope its product descriptions will be available in other languages later on, because I don't really know about ounces and such. I love cooking and there are many tins floating around that can be identified once I get my iphone and the app. I heard the demo. Don't know if the expression exists in English, but that demo was the final drop that made the bucket overflow. The final push to get things going. My iphone is on its way now, although delivery will take between 4 and 5 weeks. - Original Message - From: Nancy Miracle To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 9:53 PM Subject: Re: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4? Get the version 4. Period. The camera is ENORMOUSLY better and if you are planning on using it for any scanning application at all, you'll want it. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi list, As the iphone 4 is now in the market, I'm wondering which to buy. The 3gs has become tremendously cheap these days, and the iphone 4 is 5 weeks waiting over here in the Netherlands. Are there any good reasons for a blindy to wait for the iphone 4, or can I just get myself a 3gs without sacrificing much functionality? Some of you listers will know, so I'm looking forward to hearing from you about this. Is a 4 better for us than a 3gs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know the function of the check box though. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what > the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I >> use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as >> every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go >> back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being >> ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the >> rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Hi, I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, but that just makes sense to me. Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it from playing, and it skips it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know > the function of the check box though. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what >> the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: >> >>> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >>> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I >>> use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself >>> as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could >>> go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being >>> ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the >>> rant. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Hmm I thought it had to do with syncing. I don't want ot blast anything this late at nigh though. The interface loads a lot faster it seems but some of my podcasts remained even though I unsubscribed to them munths ago. lol. I might read the tutorials when I'm more awake. Take care. S On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, but > that just makes sense to me. > > Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it > from playing, and it skips it. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >> know the function of the check box though. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what >>> the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: >>> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Hi! Well, it might have to do with both, actually, but not sure. The way it worked for me, though, (since I don't have my iphone cable with me at uni) made it look like queuing. A nice way of doing it, mind you. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hmm I thought it had to do with syncing. I don't want ot blast anything this > late at nigh though. The interface loads a lot faster it seems but some of my > podcasts remained even though I unsubscribed to them munths ago. lol. I might > read the tutorials when I'm more awake. > > Take care. > > S > On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >> but that just makes sense to me. >> >> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >> from playing, and it skips it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >>> know the function of the check box though. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi! I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I > haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as > I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for > myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost > wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I > think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same > issues? Sorry about the rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
I also was a bit confused when I saw 5 unplayed items in the aps section but as far as i can tell those were updates as I saw 4 updates. the extra 1 item I dunno yet. I'm too tired to think. lol! Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Well, it might have to do with both, actually, but not sure. The way it > worked for me, though, (since I don't have my iphone cable with me at uni) > made it look like queuing. A nice way of doing it, mind you. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm I thought it had to do with syncing. I don't want ot blast anything this >> late at nigh though. The interface loads a lot faster it seems but some of >> my podcasts remained even though I unsubscribed to them munths ago. lol. I >> might read the tutorials when I'm more awake. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >>> but that just makes sense to me. >>> >>> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >>> from playing, and it skips it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know the function of the check box though. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect > what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me >> as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for >> myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost >> wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I >> think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same >> issues? Sorry about the rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubsc
Re: ITunes 10
wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can actually make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files and curing them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just dump VLC. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, but that just makes sense to me. Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it from playing, and it skips it. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know > the function of the check box though. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what >> the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: >> >>> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >>> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I >>> use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself >>> as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could >>> go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being >>> ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the >>> rant. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Hi, The way it works is that you put files into a playlist, whether they are podcast, music, whatever, then you uncheck the ones you don't want to play, but it still keeps your entire library intact so that you can always check new songs and uncheck others.. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can actually > make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files and curing > them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just dump VLC. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, but > that just makes sense to me. > > Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it > from playing, and it skips it. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >> know the function of the check box though. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what >>> the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: >>> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hi, You can press VO command T to go from 1 table to the next. It's not VO J but, the result is the same. hth On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I > haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I > use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as > every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go > back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being > ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the > rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Ah, so, is there no way, then, to do what I was discribing? Can any program do that? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, The way it works is that you put files into a playlist, whether they are podcast, music, whatever, then you uncheck the ones you don't want to play, but it still keeps your entire library intact so that you can always check new songs and uncheck others.. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can actually > make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files and curing > them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just dump VLC. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, but > that just makes sense to me. > > Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it > from playing, and it skips it. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >> know the function of the check box though. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what >>> the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: >>> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the rant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegro
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Hi, Those checkboxes were always there. Voiceover just finally sees them. Unchecking the box has the same result as unchecking an item via the context menu like we had to do previously. It depends on your iPhone settings if unchecked items are synced or not. hth On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > Well, it might have to do with both, actually, but not sure. The way it > worked for me, though, (since I don't have my iphone cable with me at uni) > made it look like queuing. A nice way of doing it, mind you. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:58 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Hmm I thought it had to do with syncing. I don't want ot blast anything this >> late at nigh though. The interface loads a lot faster it seems but some of >> my podcasts remained even though I unsubscribed to them munths ago. lol. I >> might read the tutorials when I'm more awake. >> >> Take care. >> >> S >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >>> but that just makes sense to me. >>> >>> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >>> from playing, and it skips it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know the function of the check box though. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect > what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me >> as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for >> myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost >> wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I >> think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same >> issues? Sorry about the rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this mess
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I don't think there is such a program on the mac. I could be wrong though. but itunes and vlc are 2 of the best players out there in my opinion. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Ah, so, is there no way, then, to do what I was discribing? > > Can any program do that? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > The way it works is that you put files into a playlist, whether they are > podcast, music, whatever, then you uncheck the ones you don't want to play, > but it still keeps your entire library intact so that you can always check > new songs and uncheck others.. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can >> actually make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files >> and curing them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just >> dump VLC. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >> but that just makes sense to me. >> >> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >> from playing, and it skips it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >>> know the function of the check box though. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi! I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I > haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as > I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for > myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost > wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I > think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same > issues? Sorry about the rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this
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What about that DJ program? What's it called again? I heard that there are some key conflicts with it and Voice Over though. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: I don't think there is such a program on the mac. I could be wrong though. but itunes and vlc are 2 of the best players out there in my opinion. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Ah, so, is there no way, then, to do what I was discribing? > > Can any program do that? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > The way it works is that you put files into a playlist, whether they are > podcast, music, whatever, then you uncheck the ones you don't want to play, > but it still keeps your entire library intact so that you can always check > new songs and uncheck others.. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can >> actually make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files >> and curing them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just >> dump VLC. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >> but that just makes sense to me. >> >> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >> from playing, and it skips it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet >>> know the function of the check box though. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi! I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I > haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as > I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for > myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost > wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I > think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same > issues? Sorry about the rant. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
I believe it was called dj but not sure since I cleaned up this folder and I believe that message was on there. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > What about that DJ program? What's it called again? > > I heard that there are some key conflicts with it and Voice Over though. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:33 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > I don't think there is such a program on the mac. I could be wrong though. > but itunes and vlc are 2 of the best players out there in my opinion. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:09 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Ah, so, is there no way, then, to do what I was discribing? >> >> Can any program do that? >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The way it works is that you put files into a playlist, whether they are >> podcast, music, whatever, then you uncheck the ones you don't want to play, >> but it still keeps your entire library intact so that you can always check >> new songs and uncheck others.. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >> Facebook >> Twitter >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >> AIM: cincinster >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> wow! Do you mean to say that, with this version of ITunes, you can >>> actually make a playlist on the fly by going in to finder, selecting files >>> and curing them up to play one after the other? If that's so, I might just >>> dump VLC. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was thinking maybe that's for queuing in a playlist? I don't know. lol, >>> but that just makes sense to me. >>> >>> Yep, looks like I was right. Just tried it. Unchecking an item prevents it >>> from playing, and it skips it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com >>> Facebook >>> Twitter >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 >>> AIM: cincinster >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> I see the ability to check uncheck a grup of selected items. I don't yet know the function of the check box though. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi! > > I think it's interesting how they renamed the table to finally reflect > what the item is. I've always just used VO-Command-T, though. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me >> as I use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for >> myself as every time something works good it is taken away. I almost >> wish I could go back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I >> think we are being ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same >> issues? Sorry about the rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from thi
Olearia in other languages
Hello everyone, Does anyone know what has happened to the localisation of the daisy player Olearia into other languages? It used to be localised into French and Norwegian. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
I seem to be out of the loop. On going to "check for updates", it says, "9..2 is the current version? Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Yeah ou need to download it from http://www.apple.com and go to support and itunes. Good luck. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I seem to be out of the loop. On going to "check for updates", it says, "9..2 > is the current version? > > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MS Word's lack of access with VO
Dear List, I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect badly on our capabilities. I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I propose we band together, and really push for this to happen collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as an interesting technology for all. Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part of mainstream technology. In solidarity, cathyk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't use word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able to say yes or no that it is or is not accessible. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Does anybody know if Microsoft has an email address for their accessibility team like Apple does with their accessibil...@apple.com address? I'd be interested to ask Microsoft if the forthcoming Office 2011 for Mac has been redesigned to work with VO. Thank you, Bryan On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
accessible pdf readers
Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
To John J Herzog Kapten Iphone
Hi John! I've contacted the people who make Kapten for Iphone and this is what they said! hth Colin Skype focus_66 Begin forwarded message: > From: "iSupport Kapsys" > Date: 2 September 2010 16:01:15 GMT+01:00 > Cc: "'Support Kapsys'" > Subject: TR: Your question for kapsys.com > > Dear Colin, > Thank you for your message. > Indeed, Kapten for iPhone version 1.3 is compatible with Voice Over. We have > tagged the graphical elements in the application so that it is usable with > Voice Over. We have blind users in France who are happy with the product so > we consider that the application is blind friendly. > Do not hesitate to try Kapten for iPhone. The monthly license is very > affordable and if you’re happy with the application, you can purchase the > permanent license through the application (in-application purchase). > Don’t hesitate to send us your feedback. > Best regards, > > The Kapsys Team > www.kapsys.com > > De : www.kapsys.com [mailto:nore...@kapsys.com] > Envoyé : jeudi 2 septembre 2010 14:09 > À : supp...@kapsys.com > Objet : Your question for kapsys.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Thanks. I feel really stupid now, but I was having a terrible night last night and then I discovered that. I couldn't even get out of the sources table. I had just tried Google again too, and was thrroughly disgusted. Again, I do appologize. Next time I'll try to keep my stupid emotions out of the picture and simply ask how?. On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > You can press VO command T to go from 1 table to the next. It's not VO J > but, the result is the same. > > hth > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:04 AM, carlene knight wrote: > >> I can no longer jump between the sources and songs table with VO/j. I >> haven't had a chance to play with it much yet, but this disappoints me as I >> use that key combo all of the time. I know I am feeling sorry for myself as >> every time something works good it is taken away. I almost wish I could go >> back to the earlier versions of Safari and ITunes. I think we are being >> ignored by Apple now. Is anybody having the same issues? Sorry about the >> rant. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Preview will read PDF just ifne most of the time. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:55 AM, chad baker wrote: Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Teresa, it's in software update. I just installde it. Hth, Chantel. On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I seem to be out of the loop. On going to "check for updates", it says, "9..2 > is the current version? > > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Chad, Preview is a built-in application that reads pdf's. That should be what you're looking for. Hth, Chantel. On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:55 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Chad, Preview is a built-in application that reads pdf's. That should be what you're looking for. Hth, Chantel. On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:55 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Hi, It is a terrible thing but you should care who's fault it is because, it will direct your efforts more efficiently towards fixing the problem. You can only hold Apple responsible for the actions of 3rd party app developers, in this case Microsoft, so much. I don't see what writing to Apple would do in this case except possibly making them approach MS about the subject again. I would rather lobby apple to add more access into iWork. This is completely within Apples sphere of influence, and they really can't pass the buck since it's there software and hardware. On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Where could I find a tutorial for Preview? I tried using it and had a time turning pages etc. On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Preview will read PDF just ifne most of the time. > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:55 AM, chad baker wrote: > > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
Hello Chad, There is a lovely little application from Convenienceware called GhostReader which can read most text-based formats and turn them into MP3 files. http://www.convenienceware.com/ Cheers, Anne On 2 Sep 2010, at 17:55, chad baker wrote: > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
Thanks, Sarah and Chantel. I'm downloading it now. :) Teresa On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > Teresa, it's in software update. I just installde it. Hth, > Chantel. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> I seem to be out of the loop. On going to "check for updates", it says, >> "9..2 is the current version? >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Hi: I use Word at work and I can tell you that it has some bugs like trying to overlap things I need to see that I find downright annoying. I wouldn't want TextEdit to do that, nor would I want the Mac OS and windows platforms to become too intermingled or we would just be inherrriting the problems that we are trying to avoid by switching to OS10 in the first place. Just my thoughts. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since > lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't use > word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able to say yes or no that > it is or is not accessible. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: ITunes 10
You're welcome. Glad I could help. On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Thanks, Sarah and Chantel. I'm downloading it now. :) > > Teresa > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > >> Teresa, it's in software update. I just installde it. Hth, >> Chantel. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> I seem to be out of the loop. On going to "check for updates", it says, >>> "9..2 is the current version? >>> >>> Teresa >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: need podcast help
Hi all, Sarah's right, oops I forgot about uploading files. Sorry about that. I use odbean as well and just love them. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Sep 1, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > You need a place to upload the files though so I do an all in 1 service for > file uploading and rss set up at http://podbean.com. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > >> hello; i have my blog feed with them, but hadn't thought about doing the >> podcast with them. I like their site, so that's what I'll do. thanks, max >> On Sep 1, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: >> >>> Hi Max, >>> >>> Have you thought of setting up the RSS feed with feedburner. I think the >>> site is www.feedburner.com. If that's not it, just google Feedburner and >>> you will find it. I think the feeds set up through there are compatible >>> with Itunes. I hope that helps. Have a great day. >>> >>> Musically, >>> Allison >>> >>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! >>> >>> >>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: >>> Hello; Ok, I finally found some software simple enough for me to record the mp3 files so i can start doing a pod cast. now, can someone point me to a simple tutorial on how to set it up and get it included in itunes? please someone help me. thanks max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
Hi Florian, On Aug 31, 2010, at 23:33, F10r14n wrote: In the meantime, noone seems to have answered my questions *sob sob* Florian I'll paraphrase your earlier questions. You asked about how to play chords for the acoustic guitar instrument selection (citing difficulties getting your fingers down on all the notes of the chord simultaneously), and you also asked about whether the music you played in ThumbJam could be recorded, for instance, in an app like GigDaddy. Although you didn't explicitly state this, I assume you're using ThumbJam on an iPhone. The quick answer is that ThumbJam lets you adjust the spacing of notes on the screen for each of your selected instruments, and it also allows you to change the octave range of your notes, as well as your key, so you can control the span of notes and their spacing on the screen for your performance. ThumbJam also lets you record your performances in the app, and use them to create mixes -- so you could record a chord sequence and play it in background as a loop, and then record on top of that a different melody line with the same or different instruments. You can also adjust the relative volume in a mixer. In ThumbJam, you can control the spacing of your instrument keys by using the key controls along the left side of your screen, assuming that you haven't toggled them off to hide them when you play. I described the key controls and what they do in an earlier post, but to repeat the information and give a more detailed answer for what you ask (playing chords on an instrument whose default spacing for different notes doesn't let you fit your fingers onto all the notes you want at the same time), run your finger along the left side of your iPhone screen about at the middle of the screen. You should hear VoiceOver say "cipher underscore plus, button", "span", "cipher underscore minus, button". Double tap the "cipher underscore minus, button". This decreases the note range span of the instrument in the vertical direction by fitting fewer notes between the bottom (lowest note) and top (highest note) on the screen. Effectively, you've increased the separation between notes, so that you can fit your fingers (simultaneously) on multiple notes of a chord. You're probably going to have to double tap the "cipher underscore minus, button" three or four times, depending on the size of your fingers. If you want to keep the spacing at this setting for chorded work, you can use the next set of key controls just under the "span" controls to move your key range up or down octaves. These are announced by VoiceOver as "cipher underscore plus, button", "October", "cipher underscore minus, button". (If you find this strange, and set your rotor to "character" mode so you can read off the label letter by letter, you'll find that the developer has used the abbreviation for Octave as "O C T", and that VoiceOver has decided to help you out here by reading "October".) Same principle works here: double tapping the "cipher underscore minus, button" shifts your keys down an octave, and double tapping the "cipher underscore plus, button" shifts keys up an octave. For those people who want to read the earlier post, the link to this post in the Mail Archive for the macvisionaries list is: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg28572.html (Thumbjam iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad music app instructions) You'll have to read down to the bottom to get my first post about the controls layout, since I didn't cc: this to the macvisionaries list (which also made it available to the Mail Archive for easy searching and linking) until the next iteration of questions and reply made it clear that people were going to ask about this app again. Now, I use ThumbJam on my iPad, so here's where it turns out that the key control layout differs from the iPhone setup, based on installing Thumbjam on my iPod Touch. On the iPhone version, by the time you come to the labeled controls for changing octave (or "October", as VoiceOver would say), you've reached the bottom of the screen. On my iPad, when I run my finger down the left side of the screen to listen to the key controls, the "cipher underscore minus, button" for the octave is only 60% down from the top of the screen -- slightly below the vertical midway point. If I continue to run my finger down the left side of the screen where the key controls are announced (when not toggled off from the "Sound" menu -- button in the top left corner), I hear "Rec underscore icon, button" and "metronome underscore off, button". These buttons aren't present in the iPhone version of ThumbJam because there's not enough space along the left side of the screen to fit them in. Instead, I believe you have to go to the "Loop" button at the top right corner and double tap. Do a two finger flick up to re
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Way to go, Erik. Thank you. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible pdf readers
I find Preview to be extremely accessible, and generally more so than Adobe Reader in Windows. Teresa On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:55 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi is there any accessible pdf readers? > Also is there a way to convert pdf to mp3? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Just to let you know, I did in fact see the article of responses by GWMicro last night. It was posted to GUITalk; an NFB mailing list. This should not be taken to mean that NFB has endorsed it; just that somebody put it on the list. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Way to go, Erik. Thank you. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
I haven't figured out how to record yet. I accidentally had to cancel it once, but I have no idea as to how I got there in the first place. :) On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Florian, > > On Aug 31, 2010, at 23:33, F10r14n wrote: > >> In the meantime, noone seems to have answered my >> questions *sob sob* >> >> Florian > > I'll paraphrase your earlier questions. You asked about how to play chords > for the acoustic guitar instrument selection (citing difficulties getting > your fingers down on all the notes of the chord simultaneously), and you also > asked about whether the music you played in ThumbJam could be recorded, for > instance, in an app like GigDaddy. Although you didn't explicitly state this, > I assume you're using ThumbJam on an iPhone. > > The quick answer is that ThumbJam lets you adjust the spacing of notes on the > screen for each of your selected instruments, and it also allows you to > change the octave range of your notes, as well as your key, so you can > control the span of notes and their spacing on the screen for your > performance. ThumbJam also lets you record your performances in the app, and > use them to create mixes -- so you could record a chord sequence and play it > in background as a loop, and then record on top of that a different melody > line with the same or different instruments. You can also adjust the > relative volume in a mixer. > > In ThumbJam, you can control the spacing of your instrument keys by using the > key controls along the left side of your screen, assuming that you haven't > toggled them off to hide them when you play. I described the key controls > and what they do in an earlier post, but to repeat the information and give a > more detailed answer for what you ask (playing chords on an instrument whose > default spacing for different notes doesn't let you fit your fingers onto all > the notes you want at the same time), run your finger along the left side of > your iPhone screen about at the middle of the screen. You should hear > VoiceOver say "cipher underscore plus, button", "span", "cipher underscore > minus, button". Double tap the "cipher underscore minus, button". This > decreases the note range span of the instrument in the vertical direction by > fitting fewer notes between the bottom (lowest note) and top (highest note) > on the screen. Effectively, you've increased the separation between notes, > so that you can fit your fingers (simultaneously) on multiple notes of a > chord. You're probably going to have to double tap the "cipher underscore > minus, button" three or four times, depending on the size of your fingers. > > If you want to keep the spacing at this setting for chorded work, you can use > the next set of key controls just under the "span" controls to move your key > range up or down octaves. These are announced by VoiceOver as "cipher > underscore plus, button", "October", "cipher underscore minus, button". (If > you find this strange, and set your rotor to "character" mode so you can read > off the label letter by letter, you'll find that the developer has used the > abbreviation for Octave as "O C T", and that VoiceOver has decided to help > you out here by reading "October".) Same principle works here: double > tapping the "cipher underscore minus, button" shifts your keys down an > octave, and double tapping the "cipher underscore plus, button" shifts keys > up an octave. > > For those people who want to read the earlier post, the link to this post in > the Mail Archive for the macvisionaries list is: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg28572.html > (Thumbjam iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad music app instructions) > > You'll have to read down to the bottom to get my first post about the > controls layout, since I didn't cc: this to the macvisionaries list (which > also made it available to the Mail Archive for easy searching and linking) > until the next iteration of questions and reply made it clear that people > were going to ask about this app again. > > Now, I use ThumbJam on my iPad, so here's where it turns out that the key > control layout differs from the iPhone setup, based on installing Thumbjam on > my iPod Touch. On the iPhone version, by the time you come to the labeled > controls for changing octave (or "October", as VoiceOver would say), you've > reached the bottom of the screen. On my iPad, when I run my finger down the > left side of the screen to listen to the key controls, the "cipher underscore > minus, button" for the octave is only 60% down from the top of the screen -- > slightly below the vertical midway point. If I continue to run my finger > down the left side of the screen where the key controls are announced (when > not toggled off from the "Sound" menu -- button in the top left corner), I > hear "Rec underscore icon, button" and "metronome underscore off, button". > Th
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Hiyah, I'm not sure its entirely a case of being willing to accept. I think at least part of it is that universal access is still emerging, and we've seen such enormous improvements in the last two or three years, that we're a bit tacit about the workarounds. We know bigger and better things are coming, and we've seen big enough things to make us a bit more patient in some areas than maybe we should be. I like the suggestion about better access to Iwork. I think it'll come much faster than ms office support. Another thing to remember is that the way the OS is being built, Applications will one day be accessible per force. Office will either be accessible one day, or it won't be there in the end. Meanwhile, Our bosses still expect the proposal next friday, email updates on open case files every day, and timesheets filled out on a regular basis. "office isn't accessible on the mac yet", just won't cut it. Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-09-02, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How good is thumb jam?
Hi Krister,
I just posted answers to some of Florian's questions about ThumbJam,
which I have on my iPad. When I first answered, it was to say that
everything I tried seemed accessible, and that the app is really
impressive in terms of its ability to just let you play music. The
menus are set up to be accessed in the four corners of the screen, so
they're out of the way of playing when you're working on the iPhone
screen, and in fact, I usually leave all the controls up on the larger
iPad screen. You'll probably want to at least toggle off the key
controls along the left side of the screen before you start to play,
after you've set up your playing options the way you want -- e.g.
adjusting the spacing between notes on the screen (if you want to
mostly play chords that require your fingers to fit onto the chord
notes simultaneously), adjusting the octave range, setting whether you
have a sharp trigger as you change notes for distinct individual notes
like on a harpsichord, or whether you slide into them on the
boundaries like a trombone, changing the instrument, or the key
signature. The two menus that you routinely work from are in the top
left ("Sound") and top right ("Loop") corners. If you're only
playing, and not recording loops, then you might only use the "Sound"
menu in the top left corner. (The menus in each of the four corners
don't announce "button" after the label, but you double tap them as
though they did. Double tap the corner again to dismiss the menu if
you need to -- e.g., if you didn't choose one of the options, but just
wanted to read through the menu options. Otherwise, when you double
tap the button to show/hide the key controls, or to select another
instrument, the menu options naturally disappear when you make your
selection.)
If you're really worried about hitting a control while you're playing,
you can hide all the menus except for one in the bottom left corner.
Go to the bottom left corner "Edit" menu, double tap, and then slide
your finger up to the "Hide Menus, button" and double tap. Now when
you check the four corners there's only a single "Menu, button" in the
bottom left corner, and even when you double tap it with VoiceOver on
(or equivalently, touch or tap the corner position with VoiceOver
toggled off), all that will happen is that a screen message, "Double
tap to show menus" will appear. (Of course, you'll only be able to
read this with VoiceOver on).
Even when you turn recording on from the "Loop" menu in the top right
corner, your recording only starts when you actually touch the screen,
so there's plenty of time to toggle VoiceOver off, and start playing
when you want. The top left and right corners turn into the controls
to "Cancel record" or "Finish record", so you do want to be able to
tap the top right corner to end your recording. I don't have a
problem doing this, but if you have difficulty using the case as a
reference for where to tap, just put an elastic band around your
iPhone to mark the top edge of the active screen to guide your finger.
It might be helpful for VoiceOver users to put an audible counter or a
cue (that isn't recorded) for when you're coming up to the end of the
loop, but currently what happens when you turn recording on for a
second loop, the program waits until the end of the loop is reached
before it activates recording, even if you start playing before then.
So just toggle VoiceOver on, double tap the "Loop" menu in the top
right corner, and double tap the "Record Loop" button and toggle
VoiceOver off in enough time to wait for the end of the loop. Then
start playing again. You'll have to listen for when your loop is
going to restart to begin playing the next loop you want to record. If
you want to save individual loops to work with again, remember to
double tap the "Save Loop" button under the "Loop" menu. Then you'll
be able to load them back in and play them individually. Otherwise,
when you double tap "Save, button" under the "Loop" menu you save
things as loop sets -- multiple tracks (if that's what you recorded),
and only what's in place at the time you double tap the "Save,
button". If you don't like your last effort, double tap "Delete Last,
button". If you don't want to keep any of the current loops in your
working set, double tap "Clear Loops, button". This just clears out
your current session -- it doesn't remove any loops, loop sets, or
sessions that you've saved. They can all be retrieved from the "Load,
button". And there's also a "Session Record" button you can turn on.
HTH. I've only really checked out these features just now to answer
Florian, so if you play with this and want to post your results to
Applevis, or use any of these comments, go ahead. There are lots of
other features I haven't tried to use, so I can't really say more than
"everything I tried is
Re: Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
Hi Carlene, On Sep 2, 2010, carlene knight wrote: I haven't figured out how to record yet. I accidentally had to cancel it once, but I have no idea as to how I got there in the first place. :) Actually, same here. I only got into the recording by accident, but since these guys were asking about it I explored the menus. Pretty easy to do. On the iPad it's slightly easier to find, since there's a "Rec underscore icon" at the left side key controls. Just look under the "Loop" menu at the top right corner for the controls for recording. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Playing chords and recording loops with the ThumbJam iPhone app [was Re: thumbjam questions and a nice link for ringtone fans]
Thanks Esther. I'll give it a try. On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Carlene, > > On Sep 2, 2010, carlene knight wrote: > >> I haven't figured out how to record yet. I accidentally had to cancel it >> once, but I have no idea as to how I got there in the first place. :) >> > > Actually, same here. I only got into the recording by accident, but since > these guys were asking about it I explored the menus. Pretty easy to do. On > the iPad it's slightly easier to find, since there's a "Rec underscore icon" > at the left side key controls. Just look under the "Loop" menu at the top > right corner for the controls for recording. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
preview problem with voiceover
Hi all, I have a problem with pdf preview and voiceover. When I'm reading a pdf it is fine. The problem is when I go to a specific page of the pdf. For example if I read a piece of book when I reopen this book I press cmd + option + g to go at page 60. It regularly goes to the right page but if I interact with the document to begin reading voiceover start at the first page of the document. I tried to go to the specific page and press vo + shift + f4 to focus the right page with voiceover but it seems non funcioning. Have you some experience of this problem? I hope that my explanation is clean enough. Thank you Bye -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes through something like java script, you must reload the browse mode buffer. On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is available as you navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, and I'm sure once the work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a mac, you can install a new version of the operating system completely and totally without sighted assistance, with speech and or a braille display. This cannot be done with windows. Of course, this is not the fault of gw-micro, Microsoft gets the blame for that one, but I think it demonstrates the commitment Apple has to accessibility. -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Agreed. I am hoping iwork will take the place of office. it will be cheaper in the long run too for councilors to perches if they decide to buy macs for the college students. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:29 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hiyah, I'm not sure its entirely a case of being willing to accept. I think > at least part of it is that universal access is still emerging, and we've > seen such enormous improvements in the last two or three years, that we're a > bit tacit about the workarounds. We know bigger and better things are > coming, and we've seen big enough things to make us a bit more patient in > some areas than maybe we should be. > > I like the suggestion about better access to Iwork. I think it'll come much > faster than ms office support. > > Another thing to remember is that the way the OS is being built, Applications > will one day be accessible per force. Office will either be accessible one > day, or it won't be there in the end. Meanwhile, Our bosses still expect the > proposal next friday, email updates on open case files every day, and > timesheets filled out on a regular basis. "office isn't accessible on the > mac yet", just won't cut it. > > Hope this helps, > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > On 2010-09-02, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4?
It also depends on what your typical phone turnover rate is. I know some people who get a new phone every year. For me I tend to buy top of the line and then hang on to stuff for years. My home office Mac is 8 years old and was one of those fancy dual 1.25Ghz G4s, which cost me a bit back then, but now it's still perfectly usable with OSX 10.5 and a boatload of RAM. So if it were me I'd go for the best I can afford now and then let the cost average out over a longer period of time. CB On 8/30/10 6:21 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I recommend waiting and getting an iPhone 4. I don't think it makes much sense to purchase something running last years technology unless you do so because of financial restraints. The iPhone 4 has double the RAM of a 3gs, a 38% faster processor, and a better battery. I think those are good enough reasons to go for the iPhone 4. hth On Aug 28, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: Hi list, As the iphone 4 is now in the market, I'm wondering which to buy. The 3gs has become tremendously cheap these days, and the iphone 4 is 5 weeks waiting over here in the Netherlands. Are there any good reasons for a blindy to wait for the iphone 4, or can I just get myself a 3gs without sacrificing much functionality? Some of you listers will know, so I'm looking forward to hearing from you about this. Is a 4 better for us than a 3gs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
future of screen readers
Hi guys I personally am a big fan of the mac. I also really like vinux3.0 based on Ubuntu. Orca is coming along nicely and its nice to use ubuntu to legally and freely turn my pc into a mac which talks out of the box and for $5 I get voxin to use with it. I am disappointed that gwmicro did not even mention the fact linux distributions such as vinux and knoppix-adriane and grml exist. One of the reasons I like vinux is because it pretty much turns any pc into a macLike computer with the same or better security and stability just as the mac has on it. With vinux I just plug in my braille display and it works, usb and passport drives show up as icons on the desktop. There's no safely remove hardware. it has a calculator, dictionary, web browser, at least two email programs, a ful office suite including powerpoint, and that's just scratching the surface. If you install emacs you get the gnome desktop plus the emacs audio desktop with voxin. You can use both console and graphical modes. Don't want to remember tons of commands? then don't worry about it, you can just copy and paste commands into the terminal. Vinux only needs 384 mb to 512mb of ram to run. if you plan on using vmware player and windows7 then get at least 3gb of ram. win-xp and win98 need much much less ram. I love my mac and I love vinux3.0 equally! GwMicro doesn't seem to want to really acknowledge apple, or NVDA, or serotek, or vinux or grml or knoppix-adriane at all. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
future of screen readers
Hi Mac seems a lot like vinux in some ways. With vinux you also not only have the screen reader, but you have a fully accessible operating system. Are there bugs, sure but if you're willing to take the time to learn mac and vinux it is well worth it in my opinion. I think getting a mac, or a pc running vinux just blows windows out of the water in terms of security and stability and stuff. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
future of screen readers
Hi Is ubuntu/vinux trying to copy mac I wonder? Most programs for vinux except for qt4 and some webkit programs are currently inaccessible with vinux 3.0 but other than that most things just work. Does mac use something similar to At-Spy atspi to make its OS accessible I wonder? Reason I'm asking is because when both mac and vinux3.0 load websites they both say html content. They also say some other things that makes me think vinux has incorporated at least some form of apple's universal accessibility into vinux 3.0 itself. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Hello, I want also to say something about this topic: Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx with voiceover is in global, working good. Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows computers for blind users. However, I have also some remarks: since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of some strange characters. But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only screenreader on the mac. I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox and perhaps opera. firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the past, isn't accessible with vo. The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are n't working with vo. The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a screenreader. Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on windows, I give 2 examples: The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and revers. It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille and what to hear. A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be shown on a braille display. The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind of controls. Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they want to use. When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not all of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows screenreaders. best regards, William Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven: > Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great > company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work > computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this > point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it > handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes > through something like java script, you must reload the browse mode buffer. > On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is available as you > navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, and I'm sure once the > work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a mac, you can install a new > version of the operating system completely and totally without sighted > assistance, with speech and or a braille display. This cannot be done with > windows. Of course, this is not the fault of gw-micro, Microsoft gets the > blame for that one, but I think it demonstrates the commitment Apple has to > accessibility. > > -- > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Erujm Outstanding and dead on. I saw the article from Gw MIcro and I was very disappointed. In fact the entire article was nothing other than an opportunity for Gw Micro to paint themselves as the saviors of the blind. I have a lot of respect for what Gw Micro has accomplished and yes they have done some innovative things, however, my level of respect has dropped considerably as a result of this piffle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that alone makes me very happy. On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hello, > I want also to say something about this topic: > > Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx > with voiceover is in global, working good. > Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows > computers for blind users. > > However, I have also some remarks: > since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. > Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of > some strange characters. > But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the > screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. > > A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only > screenreader on the mac. > > I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. > > This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a > browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that are > fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox and > perhaps opera. > > firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. > > Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the > past, isn't accessible with vo. > The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! > > Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are > n't working with vo. > > The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a > screenreader. > Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. > > Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on > windows, I give 2 examples: > The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in > global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and > revers. > It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille > and what to hear. > A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: > They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio > button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be > shown on a braille display. > The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind > of controls. > Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it > doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. > > When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included > accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they > want to use. > > When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , databases > (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not all of this > tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. > > Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a > work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows > screenreaders. > > > best regards, > William > Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven: > >> Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great >> company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work >> computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this >> point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it >> handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes >> through something like java script, you must reload the browse mode buffer. >> On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is available as >> you navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, and I'm sure once >> the work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a mac, you can install a >> new version of the operating system completely and totally without sighted >> assistance, with speech and or a braille display. This cannot be done with >> windows. Of course, this is not the fault of gw-micro, Microsoft gets the >> blame for that one, but I think it demonstrates the commitment Apple has to >> accessibility. >> >> -- >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> >> -- >> You received this
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I don't use time machine at all. S On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues > will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers > have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on > VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last > five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver > will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of > time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one > thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that > alone makes me very happy. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: > >> Hello, >> I want also to say something about this topic: >> >> Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx >> with voiceover is in global, working good. >> Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows >> computers for blind users. >> >> However, I have also some remarks: >> since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. >> Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of >> some strange characters. >> But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the >> screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. >> >> A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only >> screenreader on the mac. >> >> I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. >> >> This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a >> browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that >> are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox >> and perhaps opera. >> >> firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. >> >> Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the >> past, isn't accessible with vo. >> The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! >> >> Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are >> n't working with vo. >> >> The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a >> screenreader. >> Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. >> >> Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on >> windows, I give 2 examples: >> The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in >> global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and >> revers. >> It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille >> and what to hear. >> A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: >> They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio >> button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be >> shown on a braille display. >> The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind >> of controls. >> Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it >> doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. >> >> When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included >> accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they >> want to use. >> >> When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , >> databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not all >> of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. >> >> Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a >> work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows >> screenreaders. >> >> >> best regards, >> William >> Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven: >> >>> Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great >>> company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work >>> computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this >>> point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it >>> handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes >>> through something like java script, you must reload the browse mode buffer. >>> On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is available as >>> you navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, and I'm sure >>> once the work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a mac, you can >>> install a new version of the
Having trouble preordering online, think I'm missing something
Hi, I'm trying to preorder my 4th generation Ipod shuffle online, how am I supposed to do this. There's no add to cart thingy. It's probably straight-forward, think I'm just missing something. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Very well written! On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but it > degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the > benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered offensive > or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, not for the > purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right > stance. > > Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies in > this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public forums > other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw your > attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for people to > read in it's entirety. > > Article 6: You wrote, > "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with > Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their screen > reader work with iTunes?" > This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. > Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you have > a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating system. The > libraries and API's used to build programs generate accessible programs, > which are then read and interpreted by an accessible operating system, which > then sends information to voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... > Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac > inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate > relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for > accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, It will > eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac platform that is > inaccessible to apples universal access design. As such, all software > written for macs will eventually be accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, > dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other disability. We may have to chase > every version of ITunes on the windows side, but eventually office for mac > will be accessible whether ms likes it or not, unless they simply choose to > scrap office for mac development before things get to that stage. We still > have a ways to go. >> >> > Article Seven: you wrote, > "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and > moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that allows > our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW Micro’s > technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes community." > This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group exactly > like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was also a > regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty developer > on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the macvisionaries > user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds of feature > requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with every new > release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group because they > have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that they are usually > quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. I believe duxbury > systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there are others. > > Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an > appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorically false, > and should be retracted immediately before they generate well deserved ill > feelings against the company you represent. I'd like to say, I have been an > apple user for 2 and a half years. before that I was a very happy > window-eyes user, and though I seldom actually use the product these days, I > still keep up my sma, and my switch to apple was entirely driven by > dissatisfaction with windows, and in no way reflects any dissatisfaction with > window-eyes or GWMicro. I still continue to enjoy supporting and training on > window-eyes and I'm confident recommending it to clients. I'm still pretty > mad though. You wrote: >> "GW Micro believes that having a free screen reader as part of the operating >> system does a disservice to Blind computer users." >> > That's an extremely shaky position to be in, and I'll topple you in a second. > For now, I want to say that if it wasn't for governemnt funding, I wouldn't > have window-eyes. I bought it well before the days of the payment plan. > Last Christmas, I bought a brand new operating system from apple including a > fully functional screen reader for $35 Canadian. A new window-eyes upgrade > and a copy of win7 would have cost me just over $300 Canadian, $195 for the > upgrade from WE6 to 7, and $120 for a copy of win7 home premium. not that I > think the window-eyes u
My mysterous dialog box issue
All: I posted about not being able to read a dialog box that was on the screen. I had a sighted person look. It was a message from Carbon Copy cloner asking me to choose which disk I wanted to backup. I'd accidentally scheduled an automatic backup task, and the external hd wasn't connected. The weird thing is that CCC wasn't shown as running in the doc, and none of the open apps, windows, or bring the current window forward commands would read that dialog box. A sighted person had to click the skip button to clear the message. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MobleMe Help!
All: My subscription just changed from trial to individual. The problem is under MobleMe sync preferences it says never been synked. It shows my MBP & another PC in the table list, but sync is unchecked. When I check sync, it asks me to register my MBP. I click register, and it says a computer with that name is already registered, if I choose okay, I could lose data on all computers. I went to advanced to try and unregester the computers, and reregister them, but my only option is to register the computer, and it is already registered. I've been using it for two months. I can access my Mobleme email, contents on idisk, etc, I just can't sync anymore. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Having trouble preordering online, think I'm missing something
Hello. try going to save and hitting that, sign in with your apple id a and then your cart will show up. Hit add all items to cart and then there should be a check out button and from there it will be straight forward. I just did this a few minutes ago for something. On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to preorder my 4th generation Ipod shuffle online, how am I > supposed to do this. There's no add to cart thingy. It's probably > straight-forward, think I'm just missing something. > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Having trouble preordering online, think I'm missing something
Hi, How do I save the Ipod Shuffle, that's one other thing I can't figure out. Thanks, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Hello. try going to save and hitting that, sign in with your apple id a and > then your cart will show up. Hit add all items to cart and then there should > be a check out button and from there it will be straight forward. I just did > this a few minutes ago for something. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm trying to preorder my 4th generation Ipod shuffle online, how am I >> supposed to do this. There's no add to cart thingy. It's probably >> straight-forward, think I'm just missing something. >> Courtney >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobleMe Help!
Sara if you have only the one machine and that is the only machine you have been syncing to Mobile Me, perhaps unregister the machine and register and sync again. In this case, allow Mobile me to have its content replaced by the content from your machine. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > All: > My subscription just changed from trial to individual. The problem is under > MobleMe sync preferences it says never been synked. It shows my MBP & another > PC in the table list, but sync is unchecked. When I check sync, it asks me to > register my MBP. I click register, and it says a computer with that name is > already registered, if I choose okay, I could lose data on all computers. I > went to advanced to try and unregester the computers, and reregister them, > but my only option is to register the computer, and it is already registered. > I've been using it for two months. I can access my Mobleme email, contents on > idisk, etc, I just can't sync anymore. > > > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around > it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced > bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore > disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I > don't use time machine at all. > > S > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues >> will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers >> have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on >> VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last >> five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver >> will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of >> time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one >> thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that >> alone makes me very happy. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I want also to say something about this topic: >>> >>> Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx >>> with voiceover is in global, working good. >>> Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows >>> computers for blind users. >>> >>> However, I have also some remarks: >>> since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. >>> Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of >>> some strange characters. >>> But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the >>> screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. >>> >>> A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only >>> screenreader on the mac. >>> >>> I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. >>> >>> This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a >>> browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that >>> are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox >>> and perhaps opera. >>> >>> firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. >>> >>> Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the >>> past, isn't accessible with vo. >>> The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! >>> >>> Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are >>> n't working with vo. >>> >>> The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a >>> screenreader. >>> Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. >>> >>> Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on >>> windows, I give 2 examples: >>> The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in >>> global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and >>> revers. >>> It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille >>> and what to hear. >>> A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: >>> They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio >>> button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be >>> shown on a braille display. >>> The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this >>> kind of controls. >>> Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, >>> it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. >>> >>> When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included >>> accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs >>> they want to use. >>> >>> When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , >>> databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not >>> all of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. >>> >>> Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a >>> work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows >>> screenreaders. >>> >>> >>> best regards, >>> William >>> Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven: >>> Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes through something like java script,
RE: future of screen readers
Hi: What is ubuntu-vinux? I thought the screen reader for Ubuntu was Orca. Rafael Bejarano From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy [jkenn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: future of screen readers Hi Is ubuntu/vinux trying to copy mac I wonder? Most programs for vinux except for qt4 and some webkit programs are currently inaccessible with vinux 3.0 but other than that most things just work. Does mac use something similar to At-Spy atspi to make its OS accessible I wonder? Reason I'm asking is because when both mac and vinux3.0 load websites they both say html content. They also say some other things that makes me think vinux has incorporated at least some form of apple's universal accessibility into vinux 3.0 itself. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Two documents in Text Edit.
Hi Folks. I know I can open two documents in Text Edit, but how can I switch back and forth between them? Is there a keystroke for this? Thanks for any help! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the other side. On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Very well written! > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >> feel is the right stance. >> >> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >> people to read in it's entirety. >> >> Article 6: You wrote, >> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >> screen reader work with iTunes?" >> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> >>> >> Article Seven: you wrote, >> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >> community." >> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >> are others. >> >> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >> appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorically >> false, and should be retracted immediately before they generate well >> deserved ill feelings against the company you represent. I'd like to say, >> I have been an apple user for 2 and a half years. before that I was a >> very happy window-eyes user, and though I seldom actually use the product >> these days, I still keep up my sma, and my switch to apple was entirely >> driven by dissatisfaction with windows, and in no way reflects any >> dissatisfaction with window-eyes or GWMicro. I still continue to enjoy >> supporting and training on window-eyes and I'm confident recommending it >> to clients. I'm still pretty mad though. You wrote: >>> "GW Micro believes that having a free screen reader as part of the >>> operating system does a disservice to Blind computer users." >>> >> That's an extremely shaky position to be in, and I'll topple you in a >> second. For now, I want
Re: Two documents in Text Edit.
sure, use the keystroke to switch between windows of the same program. it is comand+` HTH Rafaela El 02/09/2010, a las 19:50, Kimberly thurman escribió: > Hi Folks. I know I can open two documents in Text Edit, but how can I switch > back and forth between them? Is there a keystroke for this? Thanks for any > help! :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two documents in Text Edit.
I forgot to mention, you can also open the window chooser menu by pressing VO+f2+f2, and select the document you want. HTH, Rafaela El 02/09/2010, a las 19:50, Kimberly thurman escribió: > Hi Folks. I know I can open two documents in Text Edit, but how can I switch > back and forth between them? Is there a keystroke for this? Thanks for any > help! :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two documents in Text Edit.
Thanks! Works great! :) On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > sure, use the keystroke to switch between windows of the same program. it is > comand+` > > HTH > > Rafaela > El 02/09/2010, a las 19:50, Kimberly thurman escribió: > >> Hi Folks. I know I can open two documents in Text Edit, but how can I >> switch back and forth between them? Is there a keystroke for this? Thanks >> for any help! :) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Two documents in Text Edit.
In case the punctuation was not read that key stroke is command grave accent which is the key to the left of 1 on the number row. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > I forgot to mention, you can also open the window chooser menu by pressing > VO+f2+f2, and select the document you want. > > HTH, > > Rafaela > El 02/09/2010, a las 19:50, Kimberly thurman escribió: > >> Hi Folks. I know I can open two documents in Text Edit, but how can I >> switch back and forth between them? Is there a keystroke for this? Thanks >> for any help! :) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
voiceover saying programs have no focus
hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say anything else. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Hi, Just curious, why do you feel it is better than using the web with voiceover? Thanks On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have > to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. > It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the > windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am > glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the > light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the > other side. > > On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Very well written! >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >>> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >>> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >>> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >>> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >>> feel is the right stance. >>> >>> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >>> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >>> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >>> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >>> people to read in it's entirety. >>> >>> Article 6: You wrote, >>> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >>> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >>> screen reader work with iTunes?" >>> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >>> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >>> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >>> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >>> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >>> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >>> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >>> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >>> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >>> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >>> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >>> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >>> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >>> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >>> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >>> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >>> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >>> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> Article Seven: you wrote, >>> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >>> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >>> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >>> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >>> community." >>> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >>> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >>> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >>> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >>> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >>> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >>> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >>> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >>> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >>> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >>> are others. >>> >>> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >>> appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorically >>> false, and should be retracted immediately before they generate well >>> deserved ill feelings against the company you represent. I'd like to say, >>> I have been an apple user for 2 and a half years. before that I was a >>> very happy window-eyes user, and though I seldom actually use the product >>> these days, I still keep up my sma, and my switch to apple was entirely >>> driven by dissatisfaction with windows, and in no way reflects any >>> dissatisfaction with window-eyes or GWMicro. I still continue to enjoy >>> supporting and training on window-eyes and I'm confident recommending it >>> to clients. I'm still pretty mad though. You wrote:
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
GW Micro is in trouble. They're losing market share and the only thing keeping them afloat is the government or state agency that is contracted to push their products and discourage discussion of anything else. The genie is out of the bottle and there is no way the blind consumer is going to go back to the old model of 4 digit software prices, expensive SMAs and shoddy performance. If GW Micro wants to innovate, build good software. Charge a monthly or yearly subscription fee. that would Include EVERYTHING!!! Tech support, training, upgrades, bug fixes, scripts, the works. Don't charge for secondary installs. The future is in subscription, not in broken upgrades and $1000 screen readers. Apple upset the status quo with Voiceover. They've changed the attitudes of blind consumers to the point where we recognize the universality of Apple's access solutions, their innovative and clever product design and their ease of use. What Apple has that GW Micro and FS are jealous of is customer loyalty. Once I got my Macbook Pro, I was glad to be back on the Mac platform, but I was even happier with the product as a whole. I bought n iPhone, an Airport Express, an iMac. No one I know of sings praises about JAWS or Window-eyes voluntarily. Yes, it gets the job done, but what about the customer's experience? People will always rally behind the underdog and Apple's Voiceover is the underdog. GW Micro will continue to lose market share and will continue to spew vacuous statements like the one being discussed. Keep using Voiceover, tell others about your experience. Help those who need it and keep these discussions going. Voiceover will make great strides in the next five years and others will switch. You can be a part of that change by breaking new ground with the software. Thanks for listening. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Actually that's what I do on my youtube channel. Sure the quality is not all that good and i have a slight stutter but I still try and get the point across that I, a blind user can use a mac. In fact feel free to spread this vid around if you want. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcYxoM67_4c Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > GW Micro is in trouble. They're losing market share and the only thing > keeping them afloat is the government or state agency that is contracted to > push their products and discourage discussion of anything else. The genie is > out of the bottle and there is no way the blind consumer is going to go back > to the old model of 4 digit software prices, expensive SMAs and shoddy > performance. > > If GW Micro wants to innovate, build good software. Charge a monthly or > yearly subscription fee. that would Include EVERYTHING!!! Tech support, > training, upgrades, bug fixes, scripts, the works. Don't charge for secondary > installs. The future is in subscription, not in broken upgrades and $1000 > screen readers. > > Apple upset the status quo with Voiceover. They've changed the attitudes of > blind consumers to the point where we recognize the universality of Apple's > access solutions, their innovative and clever product design and their ease > of use. What Apple has that GW Micro and FS are jealous of is customer > loyalty. Once I got my Macbook Pro, I was glad to be back on the Mac > platform, but I was even happier with the product as a whole. I bought n > iPhone, an Airport Express, an iMac. No one I know of sings praises about > JAWS or Window-eyes voluntarily. Yes, it gets the job done, but what about > the customer's experience? > > People will always rally behind the underdog and Apple's Voiceover is the > underdog. GW Micro will continue to lose market share and will continue to > spew vacuous statements like the one being discussed. > > Keep using Voiceover, tell others about your experience. Help those who need > it and keep these discussions going. Voiceover will make great strides in the > next five years and others will switch. You can be a part of that change by > breaking new ground with the software. > > Thanks for listening. > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. > I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the > programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no > windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" > When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say > anything else. > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? > Thanks in advance, > Kari. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
That's correct. IF you take a look ast your backup disk, and if you go in to each back up, what you find there is an exact image copy of your Mac primary hard drive just as if you were looking at the actual hard disk itself. In short, once you open each backup, you should be able to navigate to exactly the files you want to recover by hand because everything will be in the very same place on the backup that is was on your Mac's primary drive at the time the bacup was made. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around > it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced > bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore > disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I > don't use time machine at all. > > S > On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues >> will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers >> have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on >> VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last >> five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver >> will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of >> time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one >> thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that >> alone makes me very happy. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I want also to say something about this topic: >>> >>> Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx >>> with voiceover is in global, working good. >>> Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows >>> computers for blind users. >>> >>> However, I have also some remarks: >>> since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. >>> Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of >>> some strange characters. >>> But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the >>> screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. >>> >>> A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only >>> screenreader on the mac. >>> >>> I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. >>> >>> This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a >>> browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that >>> are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox >>> and perhaps opera. >>> >>> firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. >>> >>> Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the >>> past, isn't accessible with vo. >>> The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! >>> >>> Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are >>> n't working with vo. >>> >>> The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a >>> screenreader. >>> Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. >>> >>> Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on >>> windows, I give 2 examples: >>> The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in >>> global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and >>> revers. >>> It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille >>> and what to hear. >>> A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: >>> They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio >>> button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be >>> shown on a braille display. >>> The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this >>> kind of controls. >>> Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, >>> it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. >>> >>> When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included >>> accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs >>> they want to use. >>> >>> When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , >>> databases (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not >>> all of this tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. >>> >>> Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great b
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
James, Let me be clear about something. I'm not glassy-eyed about what the Mac has to offer. I switched to Mac because I felt the time was right for me to do so; and, for me, at least, the Mac does everything I care to get done with it. No. It's not perfect; but, tell me, is any OS? It's not a question of "depending on the Mac"; rather, it's freely choosing the more stable and more secure Mac over clunky ass windows. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the other side. On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Very well written! > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >> feel is the right stance. >> >> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >> people to read in it's entirety. >> >> Article 6: You wrote, >> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >> screen reader work with iTunes?" >> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> >>> >> Article Seven: you wrote, >> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >> community." >> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >> are others. >> >> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >> appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorically >> false, and should be retracted immediately before they generate well >> deserved ill feelings against the company you represent. I'd like to say, >> I have been an apple user for 2 and a half years. before that I was a >> very happy window-eyes user, and
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
OH cool! I'll have to play with it when I convert my older drive in to a time machine back up. Thanks. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > That's correct. IF you take a look ast your backup disk, and if you go in to > each back up, what you find there is an exact image copy of your Mac primary > hard drive just as if you were looking at the actual hard disk itself. In > short, once you open each backup, you should be able to navigate to exactly > the files you want to recover by hand because everything will be in the very > same place on the backup that is was on your Mac's primary drive at the time > the bacup was made. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk > and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine. > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around >> it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced >> bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore >> disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I >> don't use time machine at all. >> >> S >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these >>> issues will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen >>> readers have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump >>> on VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the >>> last five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect >>> VoiceOver will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same >>> period of time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is >>> perfect. THe one thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my >>> machine down and that alone makes me very happy. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: >>> Hello, I want also to say something about this topic: Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx with voiceover is in global, working good. Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows computers for blind users. However, I have also some remarks: since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of some strange characters. But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only screenreader on the mac. I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox and perhaps opera. firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the past, isn't accessible with vo. The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are n't working with vo. The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a screenreader. Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on windows, I give 2 examples: The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and revers. It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille and what to hear. A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be shown on a braille display. The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind of controls. Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they want to
how do i change the defult web browser in mac os10.6?
hey all i baught icab the other day and i would like to use it as my macs defult web browser but how do i change the defult browser to icab? your help with this question would be most welcome! kind regards trahern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobleMe Help!
Hi: I have two Machines. My Mac my PC, & my phone. The weird thing is you cannot unregister! It doesn't give you that options in advanced options. You can only register; however the mac is already registered because It is in the list of registered computers. On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Sara if you have only the one machine and that is the only machine you have > been syncing to Mobile Me, perhaps unregister the machine and register and > sync again. In this case, allow Mobile me to have its content replaced by the > content from your machine. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> All: >> My subscription just changed from trial to individual. The problem is under >> MobleMe sync preferences it says never been synked. It shows my MBP & >> another PC in the table list, but sync is unchecked. When I check sync, it >> asks me to register my MBP. I click register, and it says a computer with >> that name is already registered, if I choose okay, I could lose data on all >> computers. I went to advanced to try and unregester the computers, and >> reregister them, but my only option is to register the computer, and it is >> already registered. I've been using it for two months. I can access my >> Mobleme email, contents on idisk, etc, I just can't sync anymore. >> >> >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
future of screen readers
Hi Ubuntu is just that, Ubuntu with the Gnome desktop. to turn it into vinux they run a whole bunch of automated scripts and do a little tweeking then use remastersys to make an iso file. Orca is the main screen reader for both ubuntu and vinux3.0. and orca, like the apple voiceover, is getting better all the time. Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how do i change the defult web browser in mac os10.6?
Hello. Go to prefs in safari and choose the one you want to use as your browser. I hope that works? as that's how I've done it when switching to webkit as my default. or you might try going to your new browser's prefs and switching there. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:32 PM, trahern culver wrote: > hey all i baught icab the other day and i would like to use it as my > macs defult web browser but how do i change the defult browser to > icab? > > your help with this question would be most welcome! kind regards > trahern. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
All: This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my Apple folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I get it back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iOS 4.2
Hi folks, I'm just wondering what you all think of the following from the iOS 4.2 update page. http://www.apple.com/ipad/software-update/ Control VoiceOver using a wireless keyboard. Output in braille to over 30 supported wireless Bluetooth refreshable braille displays in more than 25 languages. If this means what I think it does, I believe we'll have a true note taker replacement on our hands. Blake -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Dropbox, and the RS games client. Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. Thanks, Kari On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if > that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a lot > of fussing. *grins* > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. >> I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the >> programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no >> windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" >> When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say >> anything else. >> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? >> Thanks in advance, >> Kari. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
Have you done anything else since then? Could always try cmd+Z. On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > All: > This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my Apple > folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I get it back? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS 4.2
Hey nice. I can't remember. will the update be out next week? that sounds nice! On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Blake Sinnett wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm just wondering what you all think of the following from the iOS 4.2 > update page. > > http://www.apple.com/ipad/software-update/ > > Control VoiceOver using a wireless keyboard. Output in braille to over 30 > supported wireless Bluetooth refreshable braille displays in more than 25 > languages. > > If this means what I think it does, I believe we'll have a true note taker > replacement on our hands. > > Blake > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS 4.2
Sarah, I believe 4.1 comes out next week, with 4.2 slated for release in November. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS 4.2
That is correct. IOS 4.1 will be released September 8th. Compatibility iOS 4 works with iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 3G. Not all features are compatible with all devices. For example, multitasking is available only with iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS. Aloha, Charlie Check out our website www.giantdolphin.com On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Sarah, > > I believe 4.1 comes out next week, with 4.2 slated for release in November. > > Les > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iOS 4.2
Oh yeah that's right. I really was paying attention to the keynote summary. lol! Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ Well it looks pretty good. I don't have a braille display but it will be good to use my i-conx to navigate my iphone. I don't mind flicking and stuff but sometimes it is faster. On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:17 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Sarah, > > I believe 4.1 comes out next week, with 4.2 slated for release in November. > > Les > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. Good luck. On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > Dropbox, and the RS games client. > Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. > Thanks, > Kari > On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if >> that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a >> lot of fussing. *grins* >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. >>> I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the >>> programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no >>> windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" >>> When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say >>> anything else. >>> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Kari. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
