RE: a big big problem with a drive

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah under vista and windows 7, you have to run as admin to get the full
functionality from the services.

 

 

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Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive

 

Ype I got it works. I run everything as admin anyway and it works now.
thanks.

On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:





Windows machine is windows vista or windows 7. Then go into start menu, all
programs, accessories then scroll down till you find command prompt. Right
click on the command prompt option, and then from the menu, select run as
administrator.

Then try running the command  chkdsk /f on your problem drive.

If it's c drive,  you may have to say yes to It being done after the machine
re starts.

 

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 4:56 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive

 

I tried that. but it scanned in read only mode when I just typed chkdsk in
the cmd prompt. That's the first step I did but I'll try it again. Oh and I
ran chkdsk throught the windows property dialogue as well. No issues I
think.

On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Erik Heil wrote:






Hi.

First of all, I'm going to assume that you don't have a RAID setup. If you
did, you'd likely know about it. So, just ignore those errors. To fix this
error, reboot into Windows, enter cmd.exe and when you get to the prompt,
type "chkdsk /F" and the drive letter Windows assigns to it. Windows will
most likely complain about inconsistent entries in the MFT (similar to old
FAT filesystems on floppy disks or other media.) Go ahead and have Windows
fix those errors. When the process is complete, try mounting the filesystem
again. You shouldn't get any errors at this point. Note that Windows is a
bit conservative about displaying errors--in this case ntfs 3G did you a
favor. While not serious, there is a potential for these errors to become
much more serious over time.

 

--Erik

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:

I'm replying with the error message. it is the following I managed to
reproduce when plugging in the drive. Now mind you this thing works very
well, flawlessly in fact under windows.

NTFS-3G could not mount /dev/disk1s5
at /Volumes/Untitled because the following problem occurred:

$MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
Failed to mount '/dev/rdisk1s5': Input/output error
NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
/dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
for more details.

Ok what does this mean? And how can I fix it?

On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> hello. I can access this drive on windows fine but nt on mac. I have
ntfs3g and macfuse installed A few days ago I received this odd message. i
have a recording of me troubleshooting but basically I ran chkdsk and
rebooted twice in to windows then I tried to repair permissions ont he drive
with no success. Here ya go. the error message happened to be caught on
tape. I cann ot transcribe it. Here's the clip. feel free to skim. it is
kind of long.
>
> http://twaud.io/874

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Re: a big big problem with a drive

[Sarah Alawami]

Yep I'm admin anyways. lol! and i run win732 bit pro but I'm straying a bit.

Thanks all for your help and I'll run chkdsk more often then I do now.

S
On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

> Yeah under vista and windows 7, you have to run as admin to get the full 
> functionality from the services.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2010 12:01 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive
>  
> Ype I got it works. I run everything as admin anyway and it works now. thanks.
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 3:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> 
> 
> Windows machine is windows vista or windows 7. Then go into start menu, all 
> programs, accessories then scroll down till you find command prompt. Right 
> click on the command prompt option, and then from the menu, select run as 
> administrator.
> Then try running the command  chkdsk /f on your problem drive.
> If it’s c drive,  you may have to say yes to It being done after the machine 
> re starts.
>  
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
> Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 4:56 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a big big problem with a drive
>  
> I tried that. but it scanned in read only mode when I just typed chkdsk in 
> the cmd prompt. That's the first step I did but I'll try it again. Oh and I 
> ran chkdsk throught the windows property dialogue as well. No issues I think.
> On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Erik Heil wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi.
> First of all, I'm going to assume that you don't have a RAID setup. If you 
> did, you'd likely know about it. So, just ignore those errors. To fix this 
> error, reboot into Windows, enter cmd.exe and when you get to the prompt, 
> type "chkdsk /F" and the drive letter Windows assigns to it. Windows will 
> most likely complain about inconsistent entries in the MFT (similar to old 
> FAT filesystems on floppy disks or other media.) Go ahead and have Windows 
> fix those errors. When the process is complete, try mounting the filesystem 
> again. You shouldn't get any errors at this point. Note that Windows is a bit 
> conservative about displaying errors--in this case ntfs 3G did you a favor. 
> While not serious, there is a potential for these errors to become much more 
> serious over time.
>  
> --Erik
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Sarah Alawami  wrote:
> I'm replying with the error message. it is the following I managed to 
> reproduce when plugging in the drive. Now mind you this thing works very 
> well, flawlessly in fact under windows.
> 
> NTFS-3G could not mount /dev/disk1s5
> at /Volumes/Untitled because the following problem occurred:
> 
> $MFTMirr does not match $MFT (record 0).
> Failed to mount '/dev/rdisk1s5': Input/output error
> NTFS is either inconsistent, or there is a hardware fault, or it's a
> SoftRAID/FakeRAID hardware. In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows
> then reboot into Windows twice. The usage of the /f parameter is very
> important! If the device is a SoftRAID/FakeRAID then first activate
> it and mount a different device under the /dev/mapper/ directory, (e.g.
> /dev/mapper/nvidia_eahaabcc1). Please see the 'dmraid' documentation
> for more details.
> 
> Ok what does this mean? And how can I fix it?
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
> > hello. I can access this drive on windows fine but nt on mac. I have ntfs3g 
> > and macfuse installed A few days ago I received this odd message. i have a 
> > recording of me troubleshooting but basically I ran chkdsk and rebooted 
> > twice in to windows then I tried to repair permissions ont he drive with no 
> > success. Here ya go. the error message happened to be caught on tape. I 
> > cann ot transcribe it. Here's the clip. feel free to skim. it is kind of 
> > long.
> >
> > http://twaud.io/874
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Re: niki plus

[Chris Moore]

Just go to your local sports wear retailer and ask for Nike+ ready sneakers.  A 
whole range support Nike+ such as Nike Air Max etc.  They also might stock the 
sensor there too, Nike+ sneakers come in a full range of sizes.  You can also 
buy the Nike+ sensor from Apple either from their online store or in their 
retail stores.  If you have an iPhone then you only need to purchase the 
sensor, if you intend to use the Nike+ system with the iPod Nano instead then 
you will need the Nike+ Sports Kit which includes the add on which connects to 
the bottom of the iPod nano (iPhone already has this built in).

The only thing you need to set on your treadmill is the speed and incline you 
feel comfortable with.

Chris 
On 14 Aug 2010, at 17:48, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Hi Chris.
> 
> That's excellent.  I've got the Roger Black Gold medal and now all I have to 
> do is order the Sensor and shoes.  If you can tell me where to get these 
> items, if the shoes are one size as my feet are small.  I'm a 37 (sorry for 
> he list to say this) but I need to know everything before I buy so that's why 
> I'm telling you Chris.  So, do I have to connect the sensor to my I phone and 
> do I just press the screen on the treadmill to get to know what is happening?
> 
> Thanks chris, that will be appreciated.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 14 Aug 2010, at 15:41, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a treadmill as 
>> you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your iPhone or iPod Nano, 
>> you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a Nike+ sensor into the left 
>> trainer under the inner sole.  As an alternative (and much cheaper one) you 
>> could download iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ 
>> system better as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch 
>> it once I have started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, 
>> the coach gives you regular feedback on your progress.
>> 
>> Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York T302 
>> which enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone and the buttons 
>> are easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the speed + or - buttons 
>> increases or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy to work out how many presses I 
>> will need to hit a good walking pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the 
>> Nike+ I used the built in timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been 
>> walking for, well that was if I was not using the phone to play music or 
>> podcasts.
>> 
>> Chris 
>> 
>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris.
>>> 
>>> As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see the menus 
>>> so wish to know do you think all you have bought could work on mine?  I 
>>> bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main stream one.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers too 
 (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
 
 Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular 
 prompted updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting 
 close to your target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to 
 find out what is going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the 
 end of your workout.
 
 So far I am very happy with my purchases.
 
 Chris 
 On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
 
> I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
> asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was 
> $19.99 or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and 
> they were around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" 
> shoe.  There are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable to 
> very expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki 
> plus and than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories 
> burned, distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it 
> just like if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further 
> questions.
> Nancy
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Re: niki plus

[Chris Moore]

Rumour has it that Apple are working on a similar system for bike users, well 
they have filed a patent claiming so.  Watch this space. 
On 14 Aug 2010, at 18:34, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> hello;  any idea if there is something similar i could use on my recumbant 
> bike?  it would have to work with my macbook as i don't have an iphone or 
> ipod touch and don't see one in my near future. any suggestions would be 
> appreciated.  thanks, max
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a treadmill as 
>> you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your iPhone or iPod Nano, 
>> you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a Nike+ sensor into the left 
>> trainer under the inner sole.  As an alternative (and much cheaper one) you 
>> could download iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ 
>> system better as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch 
>> it once I have started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, 
>> the coach gives you regular feedback on your progress.
>> 
>> Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York T302 
>> which enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone and the buttons 
>> are easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the speed + or - buttons 
>> increases or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy to work out how many presses I 
>> will need to hit a good walking pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the 
>> Nike+ I used the built in timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been 
>> walking for, well that was if I was not using the phone to play music or 
>> podcasts.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris.
>>> 
>>> As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see the menus 
>>> so wish to know do you think all you have bought could work on mine?  I 
>>> bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main stream one.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers too 
 (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
 
 Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular 
 prompted updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting 
 close to your target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to 
 find out what is going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the 
 end of your workout.
 
 So far I am very happy with my purchases.
 
 Chris
 On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
 
> I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
> asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was 
> $19.99 or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and 
> they were around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" 
> shoe.  There are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable to 
> very expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki 
> plus and than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories 
> burned, distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it 
> just like if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further 
> questions.
> Nancy
> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> (E-mail/MSN):
>>> 
>>> kawal_gucuko...@sent.com
>>> 
>>> (Skype ID):
>>> 
>>> kawalgucukoglu
>>> 
>>> (Mobile/text):
>>> 
>>> +447905618396
>>> 
>>> +447576240421
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Video player for Mac

[erik burggraaf]

Works great here.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-08-14, at 9:29 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> I thought of that one too, but don't know if it's accessible with VoiceOver.
> 
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 7:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Hi, what about vlc from http://www.videolan.org.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille 
>> box.
>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and 
>> subscribe.
>> 
>> On 2010-08-14, at 8:35 PM, Selena Sang wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I'm looking for a video player that will let me creat playlists or
>>> add multiple video files to play at once. When I had a PC, I used
>>> Wimamp and I was wondering if there is something out there that's like
>>> that and can play multiple video files and is accessable. Thank you
>>> for the help.
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Re: niki plus

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Thanks Chris.

That's great.  I have the I phone 4 so all I need is the Sensor and the 
sneakers.
On 15 Aug 2010, at 12:05, Chris Moore wrote:

> Just go to your local sports wear retailer and ask for Nike+ ready sneakers.  
> A whole range support Nike+ such as Nike Air Max etc.  They also might stock 
> the sensor there too, Nike+ sneakers come in a full range of sizes.  You can 
> also buy the Nike+ sensor from Apple either from their online store or in 
> their retail stores.  If you have an iPhone then you only need to purchase 
> the sensor, if you intend to use the Nike+ system with the iPod Nano instead 
> then you will need the Nike+ Sports Kit which includes the add on which 
> connects to the bottom of the iPod nano (iPhone already has this built in).
> 
> The only thing you need to set on your treadmill is the speed and incline you 
> feel comfortable with.
> 
> Chris 
> On 14 Aug 2010, at 17:48, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris.
>> 
>> That's excellent.  I've got the Roger Black Gold medal and now all I have to 
>> do is order the Sensor and shoes.  If you can tell me where to get these 
>> items, if the shoes are one size as my feet are small.  I'm a 37 (sorry for 
>> he list to say this) but I need to know everything before I buy so that's 
>> why I'm telling you Chris.  So, do I have to connect the sensor to my I 
>> phone and do I just press the screen on the treadmill to get to know what is 
>> happening?
>> 
>> Thanks chris, that will be appreciated.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 14 Aug 2010, at 15:41, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello there,
>>> 
>>> Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a treadmill as 
>>> you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on your iPhone or iPod Nano, 
>>> you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers and a Nike+ sensor into the left 
>>> trainer under the inner sole.  As an alternative (and much cheaper one) you 
>>> could download iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ 
>>> system better as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even touch 
>>> it once I have started my workout.  Depending on what workout you choose, 
>>> the coach gives you regular feedback on your progress.
>>> 
>>> Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York T302 
>>> which enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone and the 
>>> buttons are easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the speed + or - 
>>> buttons increases or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy to work out how many 
>>> presses I will need to hit a good walking pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior 
>>> to the Nike+ I used the built in timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I 
>>> had been walking for, well that was if I was not using the phone to play 
>>> music or podcasts.
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> 
>>> On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Chris.
 
 As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see the 
 menus so wish to know do you think all you have bought could work on mine? 
  I bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main stream one.
 
 Kawal.
 On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:
 
> Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+ sneakers 
> too (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in no time.
> 
> Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get regular 
> prompted updates to tell you how you are doing and if you are getting 
> close to your target.  This saves you having to look/press the screen to 
> find out what is going on.  You then get a summary of everything at the 
> end of your workout.
> 
> So far I am very happy with my purchases.
> 
> Chris 
> On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:
> 
>> I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once instead of 
>> asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.   The sensor was 
>> $19.99 or something like that.  I bought the shoes at an outlet mall and 
>> they were around $44.00.  You just have to make sure it is a "niki plus" 
>> shoe.  There are many different types of shoes that go from reasonable 
>> to very expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the niki 
>> plus and than start the treadmill.  I like it because it gives calories 
>> burned, distance etc.  It also has a history.  You have to calibrate it 
>> just like if you had a pedometer.  Let me know if you have further 
>> questions.
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Ascertaining the time and date.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings y'all,

Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
information, but still haven't located it.


TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Scott Howell]

Geoff,

If you are referring to the time and date that is displayed on the status menu, 
you have a couple of options. First control-f8 will take you to the status menu 
where the info is located. You also can enable keypad or keyboard commander in 
the VOiceOver Utility,, enable VOiceOver scripting, which is found under the 
General tab, and you can use a key sequence to get the date and time. These are 
the two quickest options. Of course I am assuming this is what you are trying 
to do.

hth,
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> Greetings y'all,
> 
> Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
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> 
> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
> Geoff
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Kevin Mattingly]

Via Chris Moore, I learned thatyou go to voice over utilities, enable the 
keyboard commander, select the right option key as your keyboard commander and 
then you can just hit the right option key and the letter 't' and you'll get 
the time and date.

Kev
On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Geoff,
> 
> If you are referring to the time and date that is displayed on the status 
> menu, you have a couple of options. First control-f8 will take you to the 
> status menu where the info is located. You also can enable keypad or keyboard 
> commander in the VOiceOver Utility,, enable VOiceOver scripting, which is 
> found under the General tab, and you can use a key sequence to get the date 
> and time. These are the two quickest options. Of course I am assuming this is 
> what you are trying to do.
> 
> hth,
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
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>> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
>> information, but still haven't located it.
>> 
>> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
>> Geoff
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Scott E. Ford]

Hi Jeff,
There is an easier way to get the time, however I cannot remember the 
total procedure to activate it.  I will tell you what I remember, because I 
cannot find the message the provided the instructions.  Maybe someone can 
repost it.  i thought that I had put in my acharives for future reference.
Here we go.
go into your voiceover utility and activate the ability to use apple script.  I 
thought that there was another setting that needed to be changed, however I 
cannot find it.  Now when you do right option t you will get the time and date. 
 Hope that this helps.
Sincerely,
Scott

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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hello!

First, depending if you want the time spoken with Apple's Speech Manager, you 
don't need to check the "Allow VoiceOver to be controlled with AppleScript" 
checkbox under the "General" category. Non-AppleScripted commands will still 
work as expected without this checked, and even some AppleScripts such as Speak 
Time and Date. Part of the disadvantage to using the Keyboard COmmander with 
scripts is that it takes them a while to load, as they apparently are not kept 
in memory, which you will notice if you try doing it twice rapidly as opposed 
to doing it once in a while.

It seems to currently be faster to hit Control-F8, then hit the left arrow once 
to get to the time.

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> Geoff,
> 
> If you are referring to the time and date that is displayed on the status 
> menu, you have a couple of options. First control-f8 will take you to the 
> status menu where the info is located. You also can enable keypad or keyboard 
> commander in the VOiceOver Utility,, enable VOiceOver scripting, which is 
> found under the General tab, and you can use a key sequence to get the date 
> and time. These are the two quickest options. Of course I am assuming this is 
> what you are trying to do.
> 
> hth,
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
>> Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
>> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
>> information, but still haven't located it.
>> 
>> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
>> Geoff
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Re: niki plus

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

thanks for that.  and sony filed pattends about two years ago for a  
game device that would send the media straight to your brain to allow  
disabled people more access to movies, games, and the net. lol the  
bike thing is probably closer to reality. lol  last night, I got my  
brother to watch the gages while i road my bike for a few minutes. we  
determined how fast i"m going and I was surprised to find it was much  
faster than i thought.  That's the thing about gages and tests.  There  
are people who didn't know they were slow of foot until timed with a  
stop watch.  I was happy to find out I've been riding it 5-7 miles,  
but what if I had learned i was only doing a mile or two a day?   
thanks again and take care, max

On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

Rumour has it that Apple are working on a similar system for bike  
users, well they have filed a patent claiming so.  Watch this space.

On 14 Aug 2010, at 18:34, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

hello;  any idea if there is something similar i could use on my  
recumbant bike?  it would have to work with my macbook as i don't  
have an iphone or ipod touch and don't see one in my near future.  
any suggestions would be appreciated.  thanks, max

On Aug 14, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Chris Moore wrote:


Hello there,

Nike+ works with any treadmill, in fact you don't even need a  
treadmill as you can use it outside too.  Nike+ software is on  
your iPhone or iPod Nano, you purchase some Nike+ ready trainers  
and a Nike+ sensor into the left trainer under the inner sole.  As  
an alternative (and much cheaper one) you could download  
iTreadmill for your iPhone.  Personally I like the Nike+ system  
better as I do not need to keep the phone in my pocket or even  
touch it once I have started my workout.  Depending on what  
workout you choose, the coach gives you regular feedback on your  
progress.


Out of interest, which treadmill did you get?  I have got the York  
T302 which enables me to use the built in speakers for the iPhone  
and the buttons are easy to feel and remember.  Each press of the  
speed + or - buttons increases or decreases by 0.2 km, so its easy  
to work out how many presses I will need to hit a good walking  
pace of 6 km per an hour.  Prior to the Nike+ I used the built in  
timer on the iPhone so I knew how long I had been walking for,  
well that was if I was not using the phone to play music or  
podcasts.


Chris

On 13 Aug 2010, at 18:31, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:


Hi Chris.

As stated I have a treadmill which is not accessible, I  an't see  
the menus so wish to know do you think all you have bought could  
work on mine?  I bought this Treadmill from Argus so it's a main  
stream one.


Kawal.
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:14, Chris Moore wrote:

Well my Nike+ sensor arrived today £14.99) and I got my Nike+  
sneakers too (Air Max Tailwind 2010) and I was up and running in  
no time.


Very easy to use, I like the calorie target mode.  You get  
regular prompted updates to tell you how you are doing and if  
you are getting close to your target.  This saves you having to  
look/press the screen to find out what is going on.  You then  
get a summary of everything at the end of your workout.


So far I am very happy with my purchases.

Chris
On 12 Aug 2010, at 22:53, Nancy Badger wrote:

I'm so excited!  I can actually answer a question for once  
instead of asking them!  I use Niki plus and I like it a lot.
The sensor was $19.99 or something like that.  I bought the  
shoes at an outlet mall and they were around $44.00.  You just  
have to make sure it is a "niki plus" shoe.  There are many  
different types of shoes that go from reasonable to very  
expensive.  When I work out I use a treadmill.  I start the  
niki plus and than start the treadmill.  I like it because it  
gives calories burned, distance etc.  It also has a history.   
You have to calibrate it just like if you had a pedometer.  Let  
me know if you have further questions.

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Additional to my earlier post about time

[Kevin Mattingly]

You will need to enable apple scripts in the general utility category   in the 
voice over utility.

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Re: Magic Jack/Force Quiting An Application

[Linda Adams]

i appreciate your help but am not certain I understand your instructions.  
After going to the dock and moving to the running application Magic Jack, what 
is the next step?  I looked under the shortcut menu and didn't see a force quit 
option.  I only found the command option escape under VO M > Apple.
 
On

Thanks,
Linda
 Aug 14, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Thomas wrote:

> Another way depending on where you dock is is to go into dock, find the 
> running application.  Arrow right, then VO arrow down to force quit sometimes 
> that works when the apple menu one doesn't.
> 
> On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi Linda,
>> 
>> Try force quitting the app.  You can find this in the Apple menu in the menu 
>> bar or, press command option escape.
>> 
>> hth
>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen 
>>> for Magic Jack.  After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and I 
>>> have to select "yes" to completely close it.  I checked the menu but that 
>>> only did the same as command Q.  I tried turning tracking off and that 
>>> didn't help.  I tried the window chooser but there is only one window and I 
>>> can't get to the yes button.
>>> 
>>> All suggestions welcomed.
>>> Linda
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

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Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also  
have my clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to  
15 or 30 minutes as well. hope that helps, max

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Greetings y'all,

Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date  
than finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display  
this information, but still haven't located it.


TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

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Max and Nick,

I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and took a 
look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or Control F8 
(either one)   pressing the left arrow " 
 does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.

Linda
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> Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
> clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
> minutes as well. hope that helps, max
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
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>> Greetings y'all,
>> 
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>> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
>> information, but still haven't located it.
>> 
>> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
>> Geoff
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Re: Magic Jack/Force Quiting An Application

[Michael Busboom]

Hi.

I use Magic Jack all the time to call family and friends in the States.  While 
the ability to call for free is great (well, I did pay the annual fee) the 
program, in terms of friendliness leaves much to be desired.

I have found three ways to quit Magic Jack:

1.  From almost anywhere, go to the Apple Menu by pressing Voice Over M.  Arrow 
down until you get to the "Force Quit" option.  Click on that and then interact 
with the table that lists the programs that are currently running.  When you 
get to the Magic Jack entry in the list, stop interacting with the table and VO 
Right until you get to the option that lets you force-quit the program.

2.  If you don't want to navigate through the Apple menu to get to the "Force 
Quit Applications" option, type Command Option Escape from anywhere, and you 
will be put in the same program dialogue as in Number 1.  Proceed as described 
in 1.

3.  My preferred way of quitting Magic Jack, since the Command Q never works is 
to go into Finder and from there, find the Magic Jack volume.  Once there, VO 
Shift M brings up a list of options, one of which is the command to eject Magic 
Jack.  Press Enter on this option, wait a couple of seconds, and then remove 
the Magic Jack plug from its USB port on your Mac.

I hope this helps just a little.

Mike

On 15,Aug,2010, at 6:51 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

> i appreciate your help but am not certain I understand your instructions.  
> After going to the dock and moving to the running application Magic Jack, 
> what is the next step?  I looked under the shortcut menu and didn't see a 
> force quit option.  I only found the command option escape under VO M > Apple.
> 
> On
> 
> Thanks,
> Linda
> Aug 14, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Thomas wrote:
> 
>> Another way depending on where you dock is is to go into dock, find the 
>> running application.  Arrow right, then VO arrow down to force quit 
>> sometimes that works when the apple menu one doesn't.
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Linda,
>>> 
>>> Try force quitting the app.  You can find this in the Apple menu in the 
>>> menu bar or, press command option escape.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen 
 for Magic Jack.  After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and I 
 have to select "yes" to completely close it.  I checked the menu but that 
 only did the same as command Q.  I tried turning tracking off and that 
 didn't help.  I tried the window chooser but there is only one window and 
 I can't get to the yes button.
 
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

sorry, i forgot to say vo left arrow twice but the way you did it  
sounds better. thanks, max

On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:


Max and Nick,

I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious  
and took a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO  
MM or Control F8 (either one)   pressing the left arrow "
does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just  
curious, why mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.


Linda
On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also  
have my clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it  
to 15 or 30 minutes as well. hope that helps, max

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Greetings y'all,

Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and  
date than finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to  
display this information, but still haven't located it.


TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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Changing the order in which messages are displayed

[Michael Busboom]

I used to know this once, but I have forgotten.  Does anyone know how to change 
the order in which messages are displayed.  In the View Menu, I have  messages 
sorted by date of receipt.  However, the oldest messages are at the top of the 
list, and I'd prefer them to be at the bottom.  I didn't find anything in the 
View Menu which lets you configure whether messages are displayed in an 
ascending or descending order.

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Re: Changing the order in which messages are displayed

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When interacting with the message view in Mail, you can change the sorting by 
press VO-Shift and |. (that's the vertical line or backslash key). Simply move 
to the column you wish to sort by and press this key combo to sort up or down.

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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

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Max,

Mystery solved.  I keep Quick Nav on almost all of the time and that's why the 
left arrow with or without VO wouldn't do anything.  As soon as I turned Quick 
Nav off, it worked just fine.  Wow, this stuff can get confusing!
Thanks,
Linda

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> sorry, i forgot to say vo left arrow twice but the way you did it sounds 
> better. thanks, max
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Max and Nick,
>> 
>> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and took 
>> a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or Control F8 
>> (either one)   pressing the left arrow "
>> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
>> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
>> 
>> Linda
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
>>> clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
>>> minutes as well. hope that helps, max
>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Greetings y'all,
 
 Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
 finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
 information, but still haven't located it.
 
 TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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Re: Magic Jack/Force Quiting An Application

[Linda Adams]

Mike,

Thanks much.  Your preferred method is exactly what I needed because I don't 
keep Magic Jack plugged into my Mac all the time.

Much appreciated,
Linda

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> Hi.
> 
> I use Magic Jack all the time to call family and friends in the States.  
> While the ability to call for free is great (well, I did pay the annual fee) 
> the program, in terms of friendliness leaves much to be desired.
> 
> I have found three ways to quit Magic Jack:
> 
> 1.  From almost anywhere, go to the Apple Menu by pressing Voice Over M.  
> Arrow down until you get to the "Force Quit" option.  Click on that and then 
> interact with the table that lists the programs that are currently running.  
> When you get to the Magic Jack entry in the list, stop interacting with the 
> table and VO Right until you get to the option that lets you force-quit the 
> program.
> 
> 2.  If you don't want to navigate through the Apple menu to get to the "Force 
> Quit Applications" option, type Command Option Escape from anywhere, and you 
> will be put in the same program dialogue as in Number 1.  Proceed as 
> described in 1.
> 
> 3.  My preferred way of quitting Magic Jack, since the Command Q never works 
> is to go into Finder and from there, find the Magic Jack volume.  Once there, 
> VO Shift M brings up a list of options, one of which is the command to eject 
> Magic Jack.  Press Enter on this option, wait a couple of seconds, and then 
> remove the Magic Jack plug from its USB port on your Mac.
> 
> I hope this helps just a little.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 15,Aug,2010, at 6:51 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> i appreciate your help but am not certain I understand your instructions.  
>> After going to the dock and moving to the running application Magic Jack, 
>> what is the next step?  I looked under the shortcut menu and didn't see a 
>> force quit option.  I only found the command option escape under VO M > 
>> Apple.
>> 
>> On
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Linda
>> Aug 14, 2010, at 6:44 PM, Thomas wrote:
>> 
>>> Another way depending on where you dock is is to go into dock, find the 
>>> running application.  Arrow right, then VO arrow down to force quit 
>>> sometimes that works when the apple menu one doesn't.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Linda,
 
 Try force quitting the app.  You can find this in the Apple menu in the 
 menu bar or, press command option escape.
 
 hth
 On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
 
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> 
> I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen 
> for Magic Jack.  After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and 
> I have to select "yes" to completely close it.  I checked the menu but 
> that only did the same as command Q.  I tried turning tracking off and 
> that didn't help.  I tried the window chooser but there is only one 
> window and I can't get to the yes button.
> 
> All suggestions welcomed.
> Linda
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Maxwell Ivey Jr.]

yes it can;  I have yet to update my macbook to snow lepard because  
I'm just now comfortable with the mac after years of windows.  I

On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Linda Adams wrote:


Max,

Mystery solved.  I keep Quick Nav on almost all of the time and  
that's why the left arrow with or without VO wouldn't do anything.   
As soon as I turned Quick Nav off, it worked just fine.  Wow, this  
stuff can get confusing!

Thanks,
Linda

On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. You can't turn uick  
nav on by accident because it didn't exist in my version of the os.   
Instead you have to press vo plus ; to lock vo on.  It does the same  
thing.  good luck and have fun with your mac,  max rote:


sorry, i forgot to say vo left arrow twice but the way you did it  
sounds better. thanks, max

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Max and Nick,

I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was  
curious and took a look at the method both of you described.  When  
I use VO MM or Control F8 (either one)   pressing the left arrow "
does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just  
curious, why mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.


Linda
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Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I  
also have my clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can  
set it to 15 or 30 minutes as well. hope that helps, max

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Greetings y'all,

Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and  
date than finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box  
to display this information, but still haven't located it.


TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

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Hi,
I believe they meant the right arrow.
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> Max and Nick,
> 
> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and took 
> a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or Control F8 
> (either one)   pressing the left arrow " 
> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
> 
> Linda
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> 
>> Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
>> clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
>> minutes as well. hope that helps, max
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings y'all,
>>> 
>>> Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
>>> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
>>> information, but still haven't located it.
>>> 
>>> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
>>> Geoff
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[focus]

Hi all!
I use the vo mm and when I get to the timemachine menu I have to right arrow 4 
times to get the time and date, it won't let me left arrow twice!
On 15 Aug 2010, at 18:46, Linda Adams wrote:

> Max,
> 
> Mystery solved.  I keep Quick Nav on almost all of the time and that's why 
> the left arrow with or without VO wouldn't do anything.  As soon as I turned 
> Quick Nav off, it worked just fine.  Wow, this stuff can get confusing!
> Thanks,
> Linda
> 
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
> 
>> sorry, i forgot to say vo left arrow twice but the way you did it sounds 
>> better. thanks, max
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
>> 
>>> Max and Nick,
>>> 
>>> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and 
>>> took a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or 
>>> Control F8 (either one)   pressing the left arrow "
>>> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
>>> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> 
 Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
 clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
 minutes as well. hope that helps, max
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> 
> Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
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> 
> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
> Geoff
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

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Hi,

Hitting left arrow on its own once is fine, unless you have Quick nav enabled.

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On Aug 15, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

> sorry, i forgot to say vo left arrow twice but the way you did it sounds 
> better. thanks, max
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Max and Nick,
>> 
>> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and took 
>> a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or Control F8 
>> (either one)   pressing the left arrow "
>> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
>> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
>> 
>> Linda
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
>>> clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
>>> minutes as well. hope that helps, max
>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Greetings y'all,
 
 Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
 finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
 information, but still haven't located it.
 
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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

No, it is the left arrow. Just turn off quick nav, and you're good to go when 
in the status menu. It only works with left arrow, though, not with VO-Left 
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> Hi,
> I believe they meant the right arrow.
> Courtney
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> On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Max and Nick,
>> 
>> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and took 
>> a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or Control F8 
>> (either one)   pressing the left arrow " 
>> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
>> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
>> 
>> Linda
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
>>> clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
>>> minutes as well. hope that helps, max
>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
 Greetings y'all,
 
 Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
 finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
 information, but still haven't located it.
 
 TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
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VMWare, Skype and a soundcard issue

[John D . Lipsey]

Hi all,

I'm running VMWare fusion 3.1.1, I believe it is, but this problem was 
occurring even with my older version of Fusion.  I'm running Windows XP on the 
virtual machine, if that matters.

I've tested several hypotheses, and have reached the conclusion that Skype is 
my culprit.  Here's the problem.

If I'm running fusion, and am on Skype with someone on my mac side, every once 
in a while the sound card starts making funny sounds.  This lasts for a few 
seconds before all of the sound is completely gone.  I can fix the issue by 
simply putting my computer to sleep and then bringing it back up, but this will 
naturally kill anything I may be doing on the windows side.  This happens 
regardless of whether VoiceOver is on or not, so it has to be some kind of 
issue between Skype's using the sound-card and windows also trying to use the 
sound card.  I think.

Thoughts?  Suggestions?  Workarounds?

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insert plus f11 key with vm fusion

[joseph]

hi listers,

i'm running windows7 with vm fusion when i try to get to the system
tray the shortcut key insert f11 does not work.  i connected my
wireless keyboard to my notebook and that keystroke worked there.
does anyone know why it is not working with vm fusion?

thank you in advance.

best

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Re: Ascertaining the time and date.

[focus]

Hi all!
I'm silly, I did have the quick nav on!
turned it off and it worked just like you said it would!!
thanks
Colin :-]
Skype focus_66
On 15 Aug 2010, at 20:27, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> No, it is the left arrow. Just turn off quick nav, and you're good to go when 
> in the status menu. It only works with left arrow, though, not with VO-Left 
> arrow unless you have set the VoiceOver cursor to wrapping.
> 
> Regards,
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> On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:48 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I believe they meant the right arrow.
>> Courtney
>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays 
>> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>> 
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
>> 
>>> Max and Nick,
>>> 
>>> I set and use  "option T to check the date and time.  I was curious and 
>>> took a look at the method both of you described.  When I use VO MM or 
>>> Control F8 (either one)   pressing the left arrow " 
>>> does nothing except play a tone saying I can't go left.  Just curious, why 
>>> mine won't do it.  I have a Macbook with Snow Leopard.
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> 
 Hello;  I press vo plus m twice and then left arrow twice.  I also have my 
 clock set to announce the time on the hour.  you can set it to 15 or 30 
 minutes as well. hope that helps, max
 On Aug 15, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
 
> Greetings y'all,
> 
> Surely there's got to be an easier way to find out the time and date than 
> finding it in system preferences.  I checked the box to display this 
> information, but still haven't located it.
> 
> TIA for sharing the insert+f12 equivalent.
> Geoff
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RE: anything to switch bluetooth connections?

[Simon Fogarty]

Belcon make a usb kvm switch that also has audio jack on it for speakers /
headphones.

But iit also has a usb port for adding a secondary usb device, wonder if you
could add your blue tooth adaptor to tha t and  then use blue tooth headset
for listening?

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Saturday, 14 August 2010 3:11 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: anything to switch bluetooth connections?

 

ok i didn't know that they made kvm switches with audio :) that's cool  and
because of the way tha bluetooth works is the only way to switch bluetooth
from one machine to another. the paring process is what makes bt secure and
safe. if you could swap that way anyone else could take over your machine in
a coffee shop or public area. you would be amazed at just how many bt things
there are in places you wouldn't expect. even some display signs in
buisnesses are bluetooth  now. there i think is a sign at the apple store
that shows up as a bluetooth device. and forget the bluetooth headphones
unless you are literally in the next room. you would be better off with HIGH
end wireless

 headphones  make sur eyou gt the top of the line model the cheaper ones die
after 6 months even my last set of sennheiser headphones I got for Christmas
are half dead and weak  their transmitters apparently fail

there is very likely a professional grade solution for monitoring audio  it
is likely to be spendy but if this is your job it's worth the money to
obtain professional quality equipment  check out the pro sound reinforcement
shops for your audio needs the pro stuff uses higher power spread spectrum
or diversity recievers depending on the model and what you need it to doOn
Aug 13, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:





What about  a kvm switch with audio. So you have all sound coming through
one set of speakers, but only when you change to the machine you want do you
hear the voice of that machine.

 

I did this with a windows system I had setup. 6 machines coming through a
kvm with audio. On ekeyboard, mouse, monitor and one set of speakers.  Made
life pretty easy.

 

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 4:36 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: anything to switch bluetooth connections?

 

I am nto aware of any way to do this unless you had a standard KVM that
would allow you to use a bluetooth adapter that would connect via the USB
port on the KVM. I am not sure if this would even work, but the thought has
crossed my mind as well.

On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:






Hi,

 

I've actually been wondering about something like this for a very long time.
I'd love for a way to do this, and even cross-platform if possible.

 

Regards,

Nic

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On Aug 12, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:






Hi list,

 

I just hooked up my bluetooth keyboard to my macbook after a busy week and a
half, and loving the reactivity of the thing :)

 

I was wondering though, as i am about to get a mac mini with sl server, i
will be doing a lot of testing with the aim of getting the IT pro
certification. I know, its nothing much in terms of real knowledge but its
probably a good thing to have when confronted with various situations.

 

So what i'd like to do is being able to switch from macbook to mac mini with
a keyboard shorcut. I wanted to also pair a set of bluetooth headphones so i
can just whip up the keyboard switch stuff on and i'm computerizing around.

 

Anyone tried this setup before?

 

As i am installing a sl server at the office, i won't even need to move to
the other room unless bluetooth is bad with walls?

 

I know there is a better solution through vpn perhaps from my own unit, but
if this is possible then via iphone would be even better since i might be
administering the server from another country

 

Any help greatly appreciated 

 

Best regards,

 

Yuma DXR

 

 

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Fwd: Re: NIKE+

[arthur gindin]

 Chris:


	I monitor this group for my blind 10 y/o granddaughter, but hoped this 
might be of interest.  my daughter was director of this project for Nike:









Not sure if you are replying to that guy, but you can tell him two things:
If he has downloaded the new OS4 on his phone, the native app won't work. They 
are fixing some bugs with apple. It will work fine w OS3 and he just Has to buy 
the sensor for 19.99.

And I don't work on this anymore, at least not as the global director.



 Original Message 
Subject:NIKE+
Date:   Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:20:42 +0100
From:   Chris 
Moore<moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>
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macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
To:  
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com



Hi All,

Since going blind recently, I invested in a treadmill to keep the pounds off.  
Obviously if you can't see, the display on the treadmill is not much use.  So I 
activated the Nike+ app built into the iPhone and from what I can tell it seems 
very accessible.

The thing is, I will now have to go out and get the sneakers(trainers) and 
Nike+ sensor for it all to work.  Does anyone have any experience of the Nike+ 
kit etc and is it worth it?  Should I just look at something like iTreadmill, 
how do they compare?

Chris

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Re: insert plus f11 key with vm fusion

[joseph]

i forgot to say that i'm using a wireless keyboard.

joseph wrote:
> hi listers,
>
> i'm running windows7 with vm fusion when i try to get to the system
> tray the shortcut key insert f11 does not work.  i connected my
> wireless keyboard to my notebook and that keystroke worked there.
> does anyone know why it is not working with vm fusion?
>
> thank you in advance.
>
> best

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Re: insert plus f11 key with vm fusion

[Sarah Alawami]

did you make sure that keyboard is connected via the connect panel that's there
On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:02 PM, joseph wrote:

> i forgot to say that i'm using a wireless keyboard.
> 
> joseph wrote:
>> hi listers,
>> 
>> i'm running windows7 with vm fusion when i try to get to the system
>> tray the shortcut key insert f11 does not work.  i connected my
>> wireless keyboard to my notebook and that keystroke worked there.
>> does anyone know why it is not working with vm fusion?
>> 
>> thank you in advance.
>> 
>> best
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Re: insert plus f11 key with vm fusion

[joseph]

i went to the vertual machine menu, usb but did not see my keyboard
there, could i be looking in the wrong place?

Sarah Alawami wrote:
> did you make sure that keyboard is connected via the connect panel that's 
> there
> On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:02 PM, joseph wrote:
>
> > i forgot to say that i'm using a wireless keyboard.
> >
> > joseph wrote:
> >> hi listers,
> >>
> >> i'm running windows7 with vm fusion when i try to get to the system
> >> tray the shortcut key insert f11 does not work.  i connected my
> >> wireless keyboard to my notebook and that keystroke worked there.
> >> does anyone know why it is not working with vm fusion?
> >>
> >> thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> best
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Re: insert plus f11 key with vm fusion

[Sarah Alawami]

I have no idea. do you see any wireless devices? if not you will have to resort 
to useing the mac's keyboard.

Good luck.
On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:58 PM, joseph wrote:

> i went to the vertual machine menu, usb but did not see my keyboard
> there, could i be looking in the wrong place?
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> did you make sure that keyboard is connected via the connect panel that's 
>> there
>> On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:02 PM, joseph wrote:
>> 
>>> i forgot to say that i'm using a wireless keyboard.
>>> 
>>> joseph wrote:
 hi listers,
 
 i'm running windows7 with vm fusion when i try to get to the system
 tray the shortcut key insert f11 does not work.  i connected my
 wireless keyboard to my notebook and that keystroke worked there.
 does anyone know why it is not working with vm fusion?
 
 thank you in advance.
 
 best
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Navigating to the top or bottom of a table.

[Geoff Waaler]

Greetings,

I have over 3,000 messages in my in-box, and wound up somewhere in the 
middle looking at undeleted messages from February 2009.  My goal was to 
reach the bottom, but I couldn't locate an equivalent to control+end.  I 
then tried doing a millian three finger flicks up on the track pad, and at 
some point it wrapped on me.


I have two questions.  How can I jump to the end of my messages?  Secondly 
where can I find the system keys such as the cmd-shift-c key Sarah suggested 
yesterday?  I'm thinking there must be some on board documentation so that I 
don't need to post such questions?


TIA and best regards.
Geoff 


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working with pages

[Greg Aikens]

Does anyone know of a good resource for learning to work with pages and V/O? 
Most of it is coming pretty straight forward but a few things have stumped me 
so far. Working with footnotes for example is something I'm struggling to 
figure out. Any help is appreciated.

-Greg

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Re: Navigating to the top or bottom of a table.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Geoff,

The commands to get to the top and bottom of a table are called "Go to first 
item" and "Go to last item", and the commands are: Control-Option-Home and 
Control-Option-End. On a laptop, Home is FN-Left Arrow, and End is FN-Right 
Arrow.

The Command keys are at either end of the Space Bar, and you can identify any 
key by pressing Control-Option-k to start Keyboard Help, which you stop by 
pressing the Escape key.

In Keyboard Help, you can press any key to hear what it is, and you can press 
any VoiceOver command combination to find out what it does.

You can bring up the commands menus by pressing Control-Option-h twice. Press 
Return on the command that you want.

In Keyboard Help, you can also use trackpad gestures to find out what they do, 
however, it will not identify standard Mac shortcuts. You find all shortcuts 
attached to their menu items. So, for instance, in the Edit menu, it will say 
"Copy, Command-c".

Cheers,

Anne


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> Greetings,
> 
> I have over 3,000 messages in my in-box, and wound up somewhere in the middle 
> looking at undeleted messages from February 2009.  My goal was to reach the 
> bottom, but I couldn't locate an equivalent to control+end.  I then tried 
> doing a millian three finger flicks up on the track pad, and at some point it 
> wrapped on me.
> 
> I have two questions.  How can I jump to the end of my messages?  Secondly 
> where can I find the system keys such as the cmd-shift-c key Sarah suggested 
> yesterday?  I'm thinking there must be some on board documentation so that I 
> don't need to post such questions?
> 
> TIA and best regards.
> Geoff 
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