Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi, Donna, As far as reading e-mail messages is concerned, I rarely interact with them as long as I am just interested in content. When I come across a message I wish to read, I just hit Enter on it, and VO reads it aloud. While this doesn't work in every program or situation, it's nice for just quickly perusing mail. I forgot how I enabled this feature, but the idea came from a genius on one of the VO Mac lists, and I've really enjoy it. Best regards, Mike On 10,Aug,2010, at 5:23 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Ray, > > Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've > decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the message. > So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems > redundant, at least to me. > Cheers, > Donna > On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you >> don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of interaction. At >> first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in to my Mac, she saw >> the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of interaction; >> particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come across a frame on >> a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you do need or want to, >> you can interact with it so you can pay attention to it. IF you don't want >> to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to the next thing. I don't >> want assumptions made for me about what I want to pay attention to or not; >> and, the concept of interaction gives me the freedom to make that choice for >> myself. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Ray, >>> >>> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think that >>> having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite logical. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant > me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would > just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* > Donna > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi donna, >> >> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact >> again. >> >> hth >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if >>> I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have >>> this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, >>> when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole >>> message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do wish >>> there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, instead of >>> back at the top of the document. Note that the one exception for this >>> seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads from cursor to end. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it does not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts reading the previous text from the message you are replying to. Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it stopped automatically. Chris On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Chris, > I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. >
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
That only works if you have the preview pane enabled. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > Actually, you don't. Do what Mike said, once you see an email you want to > read, press vo j and you'll be in the message area. Press vo a and you can > read the entire message, or use your arrows to read line by line. Once you > are done, press vo j to jump back to the message list. > > HTH, > > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I realize this. But, if you want to activate a link or have the cursor read >> to end of message, you do have to interact with it, twice, no less. All I'm >> saying is that this is redundant. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> You dn't have to interact with an email message to read it. Just move your >>> voice over cursor to the text area, if you want to read it line by line, >>> use the regular arrow keys. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems redundant, at least to me. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that > you don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of > interaction. At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in > to my Mac, she saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of > interaction; particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come > across a frame on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you > do need or want to, you can interact with it so you can pay attention to > it. IF you don't want to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to > the next thing. I don't want assumptions made for me about what I want > to pay attention to or not; and, the concept of interaction gives me the > freedom to make that choice for myself. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Ray, >> >> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think >> that having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance >>> thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac >>> while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to >>> it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now >>> got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very >>> well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her >>> teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept >>> of interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to >>> her, it's quite logical. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi donna, > > It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact > again. > > hth > On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies >> if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I >> have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For >> example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read >> the whole message, even if I'm already halfway down the message >> body. I do wish there were some way to make VO start reading where >> you are, instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the >> one exception for this seems to be in Safa
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Yeah, you do. If you haven't interacted with the message area, and with the text, you can't activate a link. Donna On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > No you don't. Just focus on it and hit vo space. That's it. > > S > On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> I realize this. But, if you want to activate a link or have the cursor read >> to end of message, you do have to interact with it, twice, no less. All I'm >> saying is that this is redundant. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> You dn't have to interact with an email message to read it. Just move your >>> voice over cursor to the text area, if you want to read it line by line, >>> use the regular arrow keys. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems redundant, at least to me. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that > you don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of > interaction. At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in > to my Mac, she saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of > interaction; particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come > across a frame on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you > do need or want to, you can interact with it so you can pay attention to > it. IF you don't want to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to > the next thing. I don't want assumptions made for me about what I want > to pay attention to or not; and, the concept of interaction gives me the > freedom to make that choice for myself. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Ray, >> >> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think >> that having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance >>> thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac >>> while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to >>> it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now >>> got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very >>> well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her >>> teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept >>> of interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to >>> her, it's quite logical. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi donna, > > It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact > again. > > hth > On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies >> if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I >> have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For >> example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read >> the whole message, even if I'm already halfway down the message >> body. I do wish there were some way to make VO start reading where >> you are, instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the >> one exception for this seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A >> reads from cursor to end. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to >>> an email and you j
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi Michael, I do the same thing, and I like it very much. But I receive a lot of messages with links to articles and the like, and it would be nice to be able to just press enter or VO-Space to activate the link, without the two additional keystrokes of interacting with message area and text. Best, Donna On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hi, Donna, > > As far as reading e-mail messages is concerned, I rarely interact with them > as long as I am just interested in content. When I come across a message I > wish to read, I just hit Enter on it, and VO reads it aloud. While this > doesn't work in every program or situation, it's nice for just quickly > perusing mail. > > I forgot how I enabled this feature, but the idea came from a genius on one > of the VO Mac lists, and I've really enjoy it. > > Best regards, > > Mike > On 10,Aug,2010, at 5:23 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Ray, >> >> Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've >> decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the >> message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems >> redundant, at least to me. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you >>> don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of interaction. >>> At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in to my Mac, she >>> saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of interaction; >>> particularly with browsing. For example, what if you come across a frame >>> on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. IF you do need or want >>> to, you can interact with it so you can pay attention to it. IF you don't >>> want to, however, you can just ignore it and move on to the next thing. I >>> don't want assumptions made for me about what I want to pay attention to or >>> not; and, the concept of interaction gives me the freedom to make that >>> choice for myself. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi Ray, I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think that having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance > thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while > she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. > Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got > the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It > took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it > enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction > seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite > logical. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would >> grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept >> would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi donna, >>> >>> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact >>> again. >>> >>> hth >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi all, I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do wish there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the one exception for this seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads from cursor to end. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an > email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, > you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit V
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hello Donna, I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail Preferences, I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return to read a message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a link. I don't have to read through the message so far to find the link since I can use VO-Command-l to get to it directly. Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, press Command-Shift-h and there they are. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Hi Teresa, The book you are recommending, snow leopard, the missing manual from oreilly, can we order this somewhere in an accessible format, like ascii text, daisy, brf or something equal? Very interested. Paul. - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:37 AM Subject: Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it. Teresa On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. I.E. He cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar in Safari. Any advice? Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
When you press the return key to read a message, does Voice Over tell you what window you are in; or, does it just read out the text of the message right away? Mine always tells me the window I'm in; maybe because I'm pressing enter to read the text of the message. Can I turn this window announcement off? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Donna, > > I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail Preferences, > I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return to read a > message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a link. I don't > have to read through the message so far to find the link since I can use > VO-Command-l to get to it directly. > > Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, press > Command-Shift-h and there they are. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Hi, Paul, I read it quite accessibly in Preview, but I also transcribed it into Braille using Louis. I copied the text over to a Text-edit file and went from there. I honestly don't know if any of the libraries or publishers for the blind have picked it up. Teresa On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > Hi Teresa, > > The book you are recommending, snow leopard, the missing manual from oreilly, > can we order this somewhere in an accessible format, like ascii text, daisy, > brf or something equal? Very interested. > > Paul. > - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:37 AM > Subject: Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people > > > Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely good > book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any > keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it. > > Teresa > On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have >> been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a >> blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since >> I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. I.E. He >> cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar in >> Safari. Any advice? >> >> >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Have you got the address bar and the dock hidden? Or auto hide could be activated for the dock, this means it will not come into view until you move the mouse pointer down to the bottom of the screen. You can check the status of the dock settings within the sub menu of the Apple menu. As for the address bar within Safari, go to the view menu and make sure the toolbar is shown. cHRIS On 11 Aug 2010, at 01:27, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have > been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a > blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since > I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. I.E. He > cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar in > Safari. Any advice? > > > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
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Hello everybody, I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in my Blog. You can read the article in spanish and english here http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ Ping for iPhone: jchacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Mine also announces the window. Best, Donna On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:36 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > When you press the return key to read a message, does Voice Over tell you > what window you are in; or, does it just read out the text of the message > right away? Mine always tells me the window I'm in; maybe because I'm > pressing enter to read the text of the message. Can I turn this window > announcement off? > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Donna, >> >> I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail >> Preferences, I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return >> to read a message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a >> link. I don't have to read through the message so far to find the link since >> I can use VO-Command-l to get to it directly. >> >> Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, >> press Command-Shift-h and there they are. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi Anne, Thanks for the tip. I actually like having the headers spoken. I often skip passed much of that info, but I like having it there. But, I'll keep this in mind, and maybe experiment with it. Cheers, Donna On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Donna, > > I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail Preferences, > I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return to read a > message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a link. I don't > have to read through the message so far to find the link since I can use > VO-Command-l to get to it directly. > > Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, press > Command-Shift-h and there they are. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text
Oh, that's interesting. I would think that the need to interact would be the same with or without the trackpad commander. Guess I'm going to have to find some time to sit down and play around more with it.. I tried it out a while back, but I kept making things happen that I didn't mean to, so I turned it off. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > You know, for as much as I love the trackpad commander, it forces you to > interact more than when using the keyboard. But when I first got my Mac, I > think that might have been the hardest thing for me to learn. When it is > necessary to interact and when not. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant me >> just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would just >> disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi donna, >>> >>> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact again. >>> >>> hth >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Hi all, I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do wish there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the one exception for this seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads from cursor to end. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an > email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, you > can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it does not > stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts reading the > previous text from the message you are replying to. > > Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it stopped > automatically. > > Chris > On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. >> >> mary >> >> Mary Otten >> motte...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisi
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hello Ray, Mine also says "Window" and reads the subject line before reading the text of the message. I know no way of turning this off. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi, You simply need to change a few things in your verbosity. 1. Open the VoiceOver Utility. 2. Go to the Verbosity category, then leave it on general and expand the "Details" exclosure triangle. 3. Locate "Window" in the table that will appear to the right of the expanded triangle, then interact. Find the Menu button right next to it. 4. VO-Space, then pick "Custom…" then deselect "Type". Keep in mind that this will disable it so that you are never told that it is a window, of course. You can always set this back to the default. I've been reading this thread once in a while when it had messages, so I'm sorry if I'm totally off course here. You will still be read the subject line as expected. I assume this is what you wanted? Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Ray, > > Mine also says "Window" and reads the subject line before reading the text of > the message. I know no way of turning this off. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Hi Linda Adams
I've only just got to this message! I'm glad to see you got it sorted! But in answer to your question Yes!! Oh but you know that already! :-] hahahahahahaha! Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 01:04, Linda Adams wrote: > Well, after checking the box and sending my former message, I sent myself a > message with mis-spellings and it worked like a charm. I just needed more > faith before bothering you guys. > > Linda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hi. I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can navigate in chapters. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible ePub conversion service
Hi Jonathan. Thank you very much. I have now installed the service. The only thing I wonder about is why I can not run the service from both accounts on my mac. I have installed it in both accounts. Best regards Annie. On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in > my Blog. > > You can read the article in spanish and english here > http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 > > > > Regards > Jonathan Chacón Barbero > Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant > > Phone: +34 679953948 > e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net > Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon > LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero > Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com > Skype: Tyflos_ > Ping for iPhone: jchacon > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Is there not something in the VO utility under verbosity? I thought you could change how a whole bunch of stuff was spoken somewhere in there. Blake > Subject: Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac > From: a...@anarchie.org.uk > Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:32:42 +0200 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Hello Ray, > > Mine also says "Window" and reads the subject line before reading the text of > the message. I know no way of turning this off. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi: I use iWork09 and Text edit. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:58 PM, AndyBaracco wrote: > Sarai, > > Which software do you use on the mac for word processing? > Andy > > - Original Message - > From: "Sarai Bucciarelli" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac > > > You can get in to snags no matter what OS you are using. I wanted to borrow > one because I wasn't comfortable dropping that kind of money on something > that I wasn't sure would meet my needs. > I've been a Mac user for almost 4 months, and am very happy.Sarai > Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> exactly. I use dmine the next day for class notes even though I didn't >> know how to use vo that well. Worked like a charm. Sure I still get myself >> in to snags but we all will. >> >> good luck. >> >> S >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> I borrowed a Mac before switching, and it took me about two days of just >>> using it before I decided I could switch. You just have to keep an open >>> mind, read the VO documentation, and just jump in. >>> Sarai Bucciarelli >>> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite logical. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would > grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept > would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* > Donna > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi donna, >> >> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact >> again. >> >> hth >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if >>> I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have >>> this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, >>> when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole >>> message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do >>> wish there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, >>> instead of back at the top of the document. Note that the one >>> exception for this seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads >>> from cursor to end. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it does not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts reading the previous text from the message you are replying to. Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it stopped automatically. Chris On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Chris, > I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. > > mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi: I like that analogy! Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I explain this on my youtube vid actually at http://marrie125. think of like > a box. To find out what is in it open or interact with it. If you have no > interest in the christmas gift or box skip it. > > S > On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> This is a concept lots of people have a problem with, bt it's really not >> difficult, and you don't have to interact with everything. All it is really >> is focusing in on a particular item to examine it more closely. For example, >> if you come accross a tool bar, and you're interested in it, you can >> interact with it and read each item. If you're not interested, you can just >> skip it. The windows screen readers would require you to move through all >> the icons before moving on to something else. I suppose neither approach is >> right or wrong, they're just different, which is why it's important to >> emphasize to a windows user switching to a mac, it's not windows. The mac >> and voice over do things somewhat differently. Certainly there are some >> similarities, but if you go in to it expecting it to work the way windows >> and windows screen readers do, you are very likely to become frustrated. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance >>> thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while >>> she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. Now, >>> she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got the >>> confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It took >>> her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it enough >>> to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction seemed >>> foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite logical. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >>> >>> E-Mail: >>> rforetjr at comcast dot net >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi donna, > > It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact > again. > > hth > On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if >> I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have >> this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, >> when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole >> message, even if I'm already halfway down the message body. I do wish >> there were some way to make VO start reading where you are, instead of >> back at the top of the document. Note that the one exception for this >> seems to be in Safari, where pressing VO-A reads from cursor to end. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:25 AM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an >>> email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, >>> you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it does >>> not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts reading >>> the previous text from the message you are replying to. >>> >>> Of course you can stop VO manually, but it would be nice if it stopped >>> automatically. >>> >>> Chris >>> On 10 Aug 2010, at 03:56, Mary Otten wrote: >>> Hi Chris, I thought vo a was suppose to read from top of page to your cursor. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> ma
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Hi: Actually, you can. When you are on the link, either press vo space, or you can press vo shift m and choose open link. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:29 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > This is not true,. > > You can not activate a link without interacting twice with the message, as > well as continue reading from the position of the cursor. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No you don't. Just focus on it and hit vo space. That's it. >> >> S >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I realize this. But, if you want to activate a link or have the cursor >>> read to end of message, you do have to interact with it, twice, no less. >>> All I'm saying is that this is redundant. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> You dn't have to interact with an email message to read it. Just move your voice over cursor to the text area, if you want to read it line by line, use the regular arrow keys. On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Ray, > > Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly > I've decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the > message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, > seems redundant, at least to me. > Cheers, > Donna > On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that >> you don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of >> interaction. At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got >> in to my Mac, she saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept >> of interaction; particularly with browsing. For example, what if you >> come across a frame on a page. You may or may not want to examine it. >> IF you do need or want to, you can interact with it so you can pay >> attention to it. IF you don't want to, however, you can just ignore it >> and move on to the next thing. I don't want assumptions made for me >> about what I want to pay attention to or not; and, the concept of >> interaction gives me the freedom to make that choice for myself. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Ray, >>> >>> I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think >>> that having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got the confidence that if she did switch, she could use a Mac very well. It took her no more than the time of one afternoon to get her teeth in to it enough to get browsing that very evening. The concept of interaction seemed foreign to her before she tried it, but now, to her, it's quite logical. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would > grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting > concept would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* > Donna > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi donna, >> >> It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to >> interact again. >> >> hth >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies >>> if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I >>> have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For >>> example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read >>> the whole message, even if I'm already halfway down the message >>> body. I do wish there were some way to make VO start reading where >
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Hi: Bookshare has a lot of the Mac manual books. I'll look for this one. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, Paul, > > I read it quite accessibly in Preview, but I also transcribed it into Braille > using Louis. I copied the text over to a Text-edit file and went from there. > I honestly don't know if any of the libraries or publishers for the blind > have picked it up. > > Teresa > On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:14 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > >> Hi Teresa, >> >> The book you are recommending, snow leopard, the missing manual from >> oreilly, can we order this somewhere in an accessible format, like ascii >> text, daisy, brf or something equal? Very interested. >> >> Paul. >> - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" >> >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 2:37 AM >> Subject: Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people >> >> >> Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely >> good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any >> keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it. >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so >>> have been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a >>> blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and >>> since I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. >>> I.E. He cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar >>> in Safari. Any advice? >>> >>> >>> Sarai Bucciarelli >>> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hi, Thanks. This is very helpful. Regards, Rajiv Original message >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:31:56 -0500 >From: Mike Arrigo >Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >Ok, I can get this to work, but voice over does not tell you that the item is >a mouse over, actually I think using this is an example of bad web design, >even if voice over did announce it, because you have to actually move the >mouse itself to the link, putting the system focus on it is not sufficient. >Anyway, once your voice over cursor is on the item, press VO command f5 to >place the mouse on the item. You can then use the voice over navigation to see >what has changed on the page. >On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for everyone's responses. Several folks had asked me to provide an >> example of a onMouseover or roll over event. See >> http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/MouseOver.htm On the left >> side of the page are images of JAWS, Magic and OpenBook. If the user rolls >> the mouse over these items, descriptions appear. The user can activate these >> same descriptions with JAWS. I haven't found a way to do this with VoiceOver. >> >> Help here would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks. Rajiv >> >> >> >> Original message >>> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:46:52 -0400 >>> From: erik burggraaf >>> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Hi, You wrote: >>> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other stuff, use Mac. >>> >>> That's not accurate, right, or fare, or even what any one here said. It >>> would be more Accurate to say adobe will not support us on the mac >>> platform, and if you want to use a drm that is proprietary to windows, then >>> you have to use windows. >>> >>> I can use the flash on the mlb.com website which was built with >>> accessibility in mind. It works just fine on the mac, but is not >>> supported. That means I can listen to my baseball game, and thanks to the >>> developers of that particular application, I can pause, mute, adjust the >>> volume and have access to other features of the player. >>> >>> In summary, all of the support you want on your mac comes from third >>> parties who don't want to support you, not from apple itself. >>> >>> Then you Wrote: to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this relates to an onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver event. How do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver? >>> You've got to give us a sample site as requested earlier. For myself, I'm >>> not sure voiceover makes all that much distinction between onclick and >>> onmouseover, but if we don't know what you are looking at exactly, how are >>> we supposed to clarify for you one way or the other? >>> >>> Sorry if the tone of this sounds a bit abrupt. I'm flying out the door for >>> work. >>> >>> Take'er easy. >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille >>> box. >>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and >>> subscribe. >>> >>> On 2010-08-09, at 7:56 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >>> Hi, Actually several outfits still use Flash including the BBC. Here is the summary I am getting from folks: If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other stuff, use Mac. Also, to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this relates to an onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver event. How do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver? Rajiv Original message > Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 21:54:23 +1200 > From: "Simon Fogarty" > Subject: RE: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office > To: > > both apple and Microsoft have made the decision to move away from flash > and > go to html5. The only one still using flash appears to be youtube, owned > if > I'm not mistaken by google. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw > Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 2:06 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office > > Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less > bloated and less proprietary. > > For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it > with > JAWS. > > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this
Safari extension for posting an url to facebook and / or twitter
Hi folks, Does anyone of you know an accessible Safari extension which can post the url of the visited page to facebook and / or twitter? I've tried yourversion, but it seems not to be accessible. I can find the button in the toolbar, but when clicked the menu that is shown, isn't visible with voice over. Any tips should be very appreciated. tia, -Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) > > Teresa > On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over >> will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or >> vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as >> appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximize the window in both >> directions. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a >>> window is maximized and if it is not, how to go about maximizing it? We >>> have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was >>> only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full >>> screen using VO. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> --Al >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Yeah. lol. I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar on all there keyboards. On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over >>> will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or >>> vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as >>> appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximize the window in both >>> directions. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a window is maximized and if it is not, how to go about maximizing it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full screen using VO. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible ePub conversion service
Hello Annie, well, I think you can copy the workflow files in the share library folder instead of your library folder. follow these steps: first copy the convert to epub.workflow and convert to rtf.workflow files. In Finder, go to computer (Comand+Shift+C) open the Library folder Open the services folder. If that folder doesn't exist, create it Paste the files into the services folder and restart the finder. Try it and tell us the results regards Jonathan Chacón El 11/08/2010, a las 15:25, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > Hi Jonathan. > > Thank you very much. I have now installed the service. The only thing I > wonder about is why I can not run the service from both accounts on my mac. I > have installed it in both accounts. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: > >> Hello everybody, >> >> I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in >> my Blog. >> >> You can read the article in spanish and english here >> http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 >> >> >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >> >> Phone: +34 679953948 >> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >> Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es >> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >> Skype: Tyflos_ >> Ping for iPhone: jchacon >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hello Annie, I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be converted in a ePub file with sections. I'll post it soon in my blog. Regards Jonathan Chacón El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > Hi. > > I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so that > i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can > navigate in chapters. > Best regards Annie. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Hi all! You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! hth :-] Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah. lol. > > I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar > on all there keyboards. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the window in both directions. On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi all, > Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether > a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? We > have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page > was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it > full screen using VO. > Thanks, > > --Al > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Actually, I don't want to be read the subject line. Should have made that clear. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > You simply need to change a few things in your verbosity. > > 1. Open the VoiceOver Utility. > 2. Go to the Verbosity category, then leave it on general and expand the > "Details" exclosure triangle. > 3. Locate "Window" in the table that will appear to the right of the expanded > triangle, then interact. Find the Menu button right next to it. > 4. VO-Space, then pick "Custom…" then deselect "Type". > > Keep in mind that this will disable it so that you are never told that it is > a window, of course. You can always set this back to the default. I've been > reading this thread once in a while when it had messages, so I'm sorry if I'm > totally off course here. > > You will still be read the subject line as expected. I assume this is what > you wanted? > > Regards, > Nic > > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Ray, >> >> Mine also says "Window" and reads the subject line before reading the text >> of the message. I know no way of turning this off. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with keys locked. I've tried. lol! On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: > Hi all! > You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! > This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! > hth :-] > Focus > Skype focus_66 > On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Yeah. lol. >> >> I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar >> on all there keyboards. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) Teresa On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over > will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or > vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as > appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the window in both > directions. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > >> Hi all, >> Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether >> a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? >> We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The >> page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to >> make it full screen using VO. >> Thanks, >> >> --Al >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible ePub conversion service
Have you considered uploading this to www.icanworkthisthing.com? Take care and can't wait to try this out. On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > Hello Annie, > > well, I think you can copy the workflow files in the share library folder > instead of your library folder. > > follow these steps: > first copy the convert to epub.workflow and convert to rtf.workflow files. > In Finder, go to computer (Comand+Shift+C) > open the Library folder > Open the services folder. If that folder doesn't exist, create it > Paste the files into the services folder and restart the finder. > > Try it and tell us the results > > regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 11/08/2010, a las 15:25, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > >> Hi Jonathan. >> >> Thank you very much. I have now installed the service. The only thing I >> wonder about is why I can not run the service from both accounts on my mac. >> I have installed it in both accounts. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in >>> my Blog. >>> >>> You can read the article in spanish and english here >>> http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>> >>> Phone: +34 679953948 >>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>> Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >>> Skype: Tyflos_ >>> Ping for iPhone: jchacon >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Braille Question.
Hi everyone, I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in the USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status message came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when Voiceover starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille cells all over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac with the display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. Thanks, Jesse -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Question.
Hi Jesse. I have a focus 40 blue, and it works fine. Try press the last router key i mean the right key. Wait a moment, and see if there happens something. I often have to do this, when I have connected the display. I love that display, this time freedom scientiffic has really made a good product. If you need further assistance please let me know. Best regards Annie. On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in the > USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status message > came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when Voiceover > starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille cells all > over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac with the > display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. > > Thanks, > > Jesse > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Hi Sarah! I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! where are they used and for what? Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with > keys locked. I've tried. lol! > On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: > >> Hi all! >> You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! >> This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! >> hth :-] >> Focus >> Skype focus_66 >> On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Yeah. lol. >>> >>> I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar >>> on all there keyboards. >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) > > Teresa > On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice >> over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, >> horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or >> dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the >> window in both directions. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine >>> whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about >>> maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a >>> webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had >>> no idea how to make it full screen using VO. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> --Al >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more op
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Hi, On the keyboards on the macbooks and the bluetooth wireless keyboards, there is no home, end, paged up or page down keys. So, they have you press the FN key in combination with the arrow keys to perform these actions. hth On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:15 PM, focus wrote: > Hi Sarah! > I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! > where are they used and for what? > Focus > > Skype focus_66 > On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with >> keys locked. I've tried. lol! >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! >>> This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! >>> hth :-] >>> Focus >>> Skype focus_66 >>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Yeah. lol. I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar on all there keyboards. On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice >>> over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, >>> horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or >>> dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the >>> window in both directions. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full screen using VO. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubsc
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Hi Sarah, Actually, that's not correct. I just tried it here when they were locked, and it worked just fine. :) It went to the toolbar as usual. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:15 PM, focus wrote: > Hi Sarah! > I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! > where are they used and for what? > Focus > > Skype focus_66 > On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with >> keys locked. I've tried. lol! >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! >>> This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! >>> hth :-] >>> Focus >>> Skype focus_66 >>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Yeah. lol. I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar on all there keyboards. On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice >>> over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, >>> horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or >>> dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the >>> window in both directions. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full screen using VO. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvis
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Hi: That was the issue. Thanks! Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote: > Have you got the address bar and the dock hidden? Or auto hide could be > activated for the dock, this means it will not come into view until you move > the mouse pointer down to the bottom of the screen. You can check the status > of the dock settings within the sub menu of the Apple menu. > > As for the address bar within Safari, go to the view menu and make sure the > toolbar is shown. > > cHRIS > On 11 Aug 2010, at 01:27, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have >> been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a >> blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since >> I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. I.E. He >> cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar in >> Safari. Any advice? >> >> >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible ePub conversion service
Hi Jonathan. It works great, I have not thought doing it that way. It is fantastic I learn something new every day. Best regards Annie. On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > Hello Annie, > > well, I think you can copy the workflow files in the share library folder > instead of your library folder. > > follow these steps: > first copy the convert to epub.workflow and convert to rtf.workflow files. > In Finder, go to computer (Comand+Shift+C) > open the Library folder > Open the services folder. If that folder doesn't exist, create it > Paste the files into the services folder and restart the finder. > > Try it and tell us the results > > regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 11/08/2010, a las 15:25, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > >> Hi Jonathan. >> >> Thank you very much. I have now installed the service. The only thing I >> wonder about is why I can not run the service from both accounts on my mac. >> I have installed it in both accounts. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: >> >>> Hello everybody, >>> >>> I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in >>> my Blog. >>> >>> You can read the article in spanish and english here >>> http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> Jonathan Chacón Barbero >>> Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant >>> >>> Phone: +34 679953948 >>> e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net >>> Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es >>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon >>> LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon >>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero >>> Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com >>> Skype: Tyflos_ >>> Ping for iPhone: jchacon >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hi Jonathan. That sounds great. But I have a problem, when I tries to make HTML. I really feel, that I got a lot of codes to navigate around with, sometimes it is difficult to find the real text among codes. Does there exist a HTML editor where I can toggle between a mode were it shows all codes and a mode where it only shows the text, that will make it easier to stand at the right place in the text, before you insert the codes. I hope you understand my problem. I have always used word for windows for such work, but I am using my mac more and more, and that is the only computer that really works for me. Best regards Annie. On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > Hello Annie, > > I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be > converted in a ePub file with sections. > I'll post it soon in my blog. > > Regards > Jonathan Chacón > El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > >> Hi. >> >> I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so >> that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can >> navigate in chapters. >> Best regards Annie. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Question.
Hi, Thanks for the help. It did the trick. Have you had any luck using the blutooth connection? It finds the display ad asks for the passkey. I enter "" like the manual says but it never pares. Thanks, Jesse On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Jesse. > > I have a focus 40 blue, and it works fine. Try press the last router key i > mean the right key. Wait a moment, and see if there happens something. I > often have to do this, when I have connected the display. I love that > display, this time freedom scientiffic has really made a good product. > > If you need further assistance please let me know. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in >> the USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status >> message came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when >> Voiceover starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille >> cells all over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac >> with the display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jesse >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Question.
Hi Jesse. Yes i have paired my display to my mac via bluetooth, and it took me 30 seconds. Try again, maybe you have not been quick enough. If you do not succeed in it, please write again, and we will find a solution, maybe you have a skype account, and I can call you. Best regards Annie. On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the help. It did the trick. Have you had any luck using the > blutooth connection? It finds the display ad asks for the passkey. I enter > "" like the manual says but it never pares. > > Thanks, > > Jesse > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Jesse. >> >> I have a focus 40 blue, and it works fine. Try press the last router key i >> mean the right key. Wait a moment, and see if there happens something. I >> often have to do this, when I have connected the display. I love that >> display, this time freedom scientiffic has really made a good product. >> >> If you need further assistance please let me know. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in >>> the USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status >>> message came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when >>> Voiceover starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille >>> cells all over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac >>> with the display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jesse >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Question.
Thank you for all your help. I guess I didn't enter the code fast enough before. Jesse On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Jesse. > > Yes i have paired my display to my mac via bluetooth, and it took me 30 > seconds. Try again, maybe you have not been quick enough. If you do not > succeed in it, please write again, and we will find a solution, maybe you > have a skype account, and I can call you. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the help. It did the trick. Have you had any luck using the >> blutooth connection? It finds the display ad asks for the passkey. I enter >> "" like the manual says but it never pares. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jesse >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Jesse. >>> >>> I have a focus 40 blue, and it works fine. Try press the last router key i >>> mean the right key. Wait a moment, and see if there happens something. I >>> often have to do this, when I have connected the display. I love that >>> display, this time freedom scientiffic has really made a good product. >>> >>> If you need further assistance please let me know. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: >>> Hi everyone, I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in the USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status message came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when Voiceover starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille cells all over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac with the display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. Thanks, Jesse -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Focus, To expand on a previous response to your question, I frequently use this when I've read an email and want to go back to the top to re-read it. Press shift-FN-VO with the left arrow to go back to the top or the right arrow to go to the bottom. You can lock the VO keys or the finger action isnt too bad. the Linda On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:15 PM, focus wrote: > Hi Sarah! > I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! > where are they used and for what? > Focus > > Skype focus_66 > On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with >> keys locked. I've tried. lol! >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! >>> This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! >>> hth :-] >>> Focus >>> Skype focus_66 >>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Yeah. lol. I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar on all there keyboards. On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice >>> over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, >>> horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or >>> dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the >>> window in both directions. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full screen using VO. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisiona
Re: Safari extension for posting an url to facebook and / or twitter
why don't you try twitterforsafari that an addon that can be found in a the apple recommended addons On Aug 11, 10:41 am, Peter Durieux wrote: > Hi folks, > > Does anyone of you know an accessible Safari extension which can post the url > of the visited page to facebook and / or twitter? > I've tried yourversion, but it seems not to be accessible. > I can find the button in the toolbar, but when clicked the menu that is > shown, isn't visible with voice over. > Any tips should be very appreciated. > > tia, > > -Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: somewhat ot: a new use for audiohijack pro
only bad part is it doesn't have anything for cleaning up tape hiss or vinyl surface noise that I know of if it does that would be very awesome On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, Eric, > In the toolbar, audiohijack pro does have a split button, and also, it has a > place where you can add tags, I've never done that though. Also, it saves to > Mp3. > Hth, > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > >> I've used Amadeus Pro for this purpose because I want a way to split the >> cassette contents into individually labeled tracks. Does Audiohijack Pro >> have editing ability that lets you do that and also save as mp3 or other >> itunes friendly format? >> >> Eric Caron >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Courtney. >>> >>> It is the best program for converting old cassettes in my opinion. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >>> Hi, I hope this isn't to off-topic, but I've found another use for Audiohijack pro. I'm using it to convert old cassettes, just plugging the line-in cable into the computer then into the stereo. It sounds pretty good too. HTH, Courtney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
To the ... Linda
Thanks Linda [The] I was wondering where my home \end keys were!! :-] Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 21:54, Linda Adams wrote: > Focus, > > To expand on a previous response to your question, I frequently use this when > I've read an email and want to go back to the top to re-read it. Press > shift-FN-VO with the left arrow to go back to the top or the right arrow to > go to the bottom. You can lock the VO keys or the finger action isn't too > bad. the > > Linda > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:15 PM, focus wrote: > >> Hi Sarah! >> I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! >> where are they used and for what? >> Focus >> >> Skype focus_66 >> On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> but you cannot for example execute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with >>> keys locked. I've tried. lol! >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >>> Hi all! You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! hth :-] Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah. lol. > > I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space > bar on all there keyboards. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the window in both directions. On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi all, > Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine > whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about > maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a > webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had > no idea how to make it full screen using VO. > Thanks, > > --Al > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
They are used to go tothe top and bottom of a document, list, dialogue box, etc. Hit vo h for more info as the explanation is a lot shorter. lol! On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:15 AM, focus wrote: > Hi Sarah! > I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! > where are they used and for what? > Focus > > Skype focus_66 > On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow with >> keys locked. I've tried. lol! >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! >>> This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! >>> hth :-] >>> Focus >>> Skype focus_66 >>> On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Yeah. lol. I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space bar on all there keyboards. On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. > On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice >>> over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, >>> horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or >>> dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the >>> window in both directions. >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: >>> Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had no idea how to make it full screen using VO. Thanks, --Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.
Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?
Hmm I could not get it work but nowt hat i try it I think they might have fixed somethng a few updates ago. lol! On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > Actually, that's not correct. I just tried it here when they were locked, and > it worked just fine. :) It went to the toolbar as usual. > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com > Facebook > Twitter > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 > AIM: cincinster > > On Aug 11, 2010, at 8:15 PM, focus wrote: > >> Hi Sarah! >> I have not seen vo fn shift commands before! >> where are they used and for what? >> Focus >> >> Skype focus_66 >> On 11 Aug 2010, at 18:49, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> but you cannot for example excicute the vo fn shift left or right arrow >>> with keys locked. I've tried. lol! >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:26 AM, focus wrote: >>> Hi all! You can lock vo keys on or off by vo; so you do not need so many fingers! This is supposed to help if you are doing a lot of vo commands! hth :-] Focus Skype focus_66 On 11 Aug 2010, at 16:54, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Yeah. lol. > > I really wish they would put the control key on both sides of the space > bar on all there keyboards. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:41 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Now if only I had enough fingers to do this? lol! Neat trick. >> On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that, Mike. neat trick. The things I learn on this list. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximise the window in both directions. On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: > Hi all, > Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to determine > whether a window is maximised and if it is not, how to go about > maximising it? We have an imac 24 here at work, and we were showing a > webpage.. The page was only occupying a part of the screen, and I had > no idea how to make it full screen using VO. > Thanks, > > --Al > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: somewhat ot: a new use for audiohijack pro
Yeah but you can import that to amadeus pro and set the noise flow to very low and it sounds almost professional. I did it for a show promo. Take care. S On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > only bad part is it doesn't have anything for cleaning up tape hiss or vinyl > surface noise that I know of if it does that would be very awesome > On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:47 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, Eric, >> In the toolbar, audiohijack pro does have a split button, and also, it has a >> place where you can add tags, I've never done that though. Also, it saves to >> Mp3. >> Hth, >> Courtney >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >>> I've used Amadeus Pro for this purpose because I want a way to split the >>> cassette contents into individually labeled tracks. Does Audiohijack Pro >>> have editing ability that lets you do that and also save as mp3 or other >>> itunes friendly format? >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> Hi Courtney. It is the best program for converting old cassettes in my opinion. Best regards Annie. On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I hope this isn't to off-topic, but I've found another use for > Audiohijack pro. I'm using it to convert old cassettes, just plugging the > line-in cable into the computer then into the stereo. It sounds pretty > good too. > HTH, > Courtney > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Use text edit. There is a checkbox in the prefs that alows the showing of code or not when an html file is opened. I forgot where it is byt I can dig up a blog post on it. S On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Jonathan. > > That sounds great. But I have a problem, when I tries to make HTML. I really > feel, that I got a lot of codes to navigate around with, sometimes it is > difficult to find the real text among codes. Does there exist a HTML editor > where I can toggle between a mode were it shows all codes and a mode where it > only shows the text, that will make it easier to stand at the right place in > the text, before you insert the codes. I hope you understand my problem. I > have always used word for windows for such work, but I am using my mac more > and more, and that is the only computer that really works for me. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > >> Hello Annie, >> >> I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be >> converted in a ePub file with sections. >> I'll post it soon in my blog. >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón >> El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so >>> that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can >>> navigate in chapters. >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Yes, I have mine set up the exact same way. I only interact with a message if I want to click a link, otherwise, that's not needed. On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Donna, > > I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail Preferences, > I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return to read a > message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a link. I don't > have to read through the message so far to find the link since I can use > VO-Command-l to get to it directly. > > Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, press > Command-Shift-h and there they are. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac
Not to mention the fact that if you ever need to report a message to someone's ISP for SPAM, you can use command+option+u to get at the source details of the message. ONce there, the source matter can be cut and pasted as usual in to a new message or what ever you're going to need to do. To get back to normal content, just press command+option+u again. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Yes, I have mine set up the exact same way. I only interact with a message if > I want to click a link, otherwise, that's not needed. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Donna, >> >> I don't use the Preview pane, and in the Viewing section of Mail >> Preferences, I have Show header detail: set to "None". I just press Return >> to read a message, and only have to interact once if I want to activate a >> link. I don't have to read through the message so far to find the link since >> I can use VO-Command-l to get to it directly. >> >> Oh, yes. And if you want to look at the message headers for any reason, >> press Command-Shift-h and there they are. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people
I would like to know the experience you have after teaching your sigted friend. I would use route the Mouse to the VO cursor focus, which I think is VO-Shift-F5, but I am not sure. I would also tile visuals with VO-F10, this highlights the area of the screen and puts in the middle, making everything else blackish so that the highlighted item is the focus. After seeing the item, your sighted friend will then be able to know where in the screen it is at. I would use the VO cursor size command also, VO-Shift-Left and or Right Bracket to make the VO curosr size bigger and smaller as needed. As the VO curosr grows, a bigger rectangle encircles it and whatever is on the focus. I hope this helps, also the person taht told you about the hide address field and hide and unhide dock was right ont he money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Question.
I had to set my focus up with Bluetooth through the Bluetooth menu, and then go into VO and activate it. It works fine once I did that. Teresa On Aug 11, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the help. It did the trick. Have you had any luck using the > blutooth connection? It finds the display ad asks for the passkey. I enter > "" like the manual says but it never pares. > > Thanks, > > Jesse > On Aug 11, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Jesse. >> >> I have a focus 40 blue, and it works fine. Try press the last router key i >> mean the right key. Wait a moment, and see if there happens something. I >> often have to do this, when I have connected the display. I love that >> display, this time freedom scientiffic has really made a good product. >> >> If you need further assistance please let me know. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Jesse Bollinger wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I am trying to Use the Focus Braille Display with Voiceover. I plugged in >>> the USB and the mac recognized the display. I rebooted and the status >>> message came on the display saying my battery time and such. However when >>> Voiceover starts, the display goes blank and just shows the six dot braille >>> cells all over the display. Am I missing something? I can control the mac >>> with the display's buttons but am getting no braille feedback. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jesse >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible ePub conversion service
Helo Sarah, I didn't think about that web site. Does anybody know how can I do it? regards Jonathan Chacón El 11/08/2010, a las 19:51, Sarah Alawami escribió: > Have you considered uploading this to www.icanworkthisthing.com? > > Take care and can't wait to try this out. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > >> Hello Annie, >> >> well, I think you can copy the workflow files in the share library folder >> instead of your library folder. >> >> follow these steps: >> first copy the convert to epub.workflow and convert to rtf.workflow files. >> In Finder, go to computer (Comand+Shift+C) >> open the Library folder >> Open the services folder. If that folder doesn't exist, create it >> Paste the files into the services folder and restart the finder. >> >> Try it and tell us the results >> >> regards >> Jonathan Chacón >> >> El 11/08/2010, a las 15:25, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: >> >>> Hi Jonathan. >>> >>> Thank you very much. I have now installed the service. The only thing I >>> wonder about is why I can not run the service from both accounts on my mac. >>> I have installed it in both accounts. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Jonathan Chacón wrote: >>> Hello everybody, I developed and publish an accessible ePub conversion service for Finder in my Blog. You can read the article in spanish and english here http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es/articulo.aspx?idA=1897 Regards Jonathan Chacón Barbero Accessibility, usability and new technologies consultant Phone: +34 679953948 e-Mail: jonathan.cha...@telefonica.net Blog: http://programaraciegas.weblog.discapnet.es Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonathanchacon LinkedIn: http://es.linkedin.com/in/jonathanchacon Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.chacon.barbero Messenger: tyf...@hotmail.com Skype: Tyflos_ Ping for iPhone: jchacon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hello Annie, I use smulltron or bean to edit html code. well, I think is better to develop a little application to set marks and charapters. It's easyer than edit the html code. I'l think about that regards Jonathan Chacón El 11/08/2010, a las 21:46, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > Hi Jonathan. > > That sounds great. But I have a problem, when I tries to make HTML. I really > feel, that I got a lot of codes to navigate around with, sometimes it is > difficult to find the real text among codes. Does there exist a HTML editor > where I can toggle between a mode were it shows all codes and a mode where it > only shows the text, that will make it easier to stand at the right place in > the text, before you insert the codes. I hope you understand my problem. I > have always used word for windows for such work, but I am using my mac more > and more, and that is the only computer that really works for me. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > >> Hello Annie, >> >> I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be >> converted in a ePub file with sections. >> I'll post it soon in my blog. >> >> Regards >> Jonathan Chacón >> El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so >>> that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can >>> navigate in chapters. >>> Best regards Annie. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Skype.
Okay so I've spent a few hours getting acquainted withmy MBP. I registered, installed the latest updates and went through the VO tutorial. I downloaded and installed Skype. Not quite sure how I pulled it off since I couldn't seem to run it from my downloads folder, but I did get the license agreement and filled in my userid. More over, when I checked for updates under the Skype menu it indicated that I had the current version, so it must have downloaded and installed? This was the first app I attempted to use, so my questions are probably pretty basic, but here goes: 1. How can I ascertain the status of contacts? I went into verbosity settings (VO+V) but couldn't find any applicable options. I believe I recall Mac users knowing which contacts were on as is possible with JFW, so I'm probably missing something. 2. When I restarted, I can no longer locate Skype. I tried "applications" (command+shift+a), the finder and the spotlight. Only the spotlight showed me Skype but it appeared to only consist of the file I downloaded as well as recently visited Skype pages from Safari history. 3. Back when I was able to run Skype I went through the options but could not locate a way to place a test call. Perhaps the Mac has features rendering this inapplicable, but I was curious whether this feature is not in the Mac version, or perhaps I didn't look in the right place? Thanks in advance for any/all suggestions, and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a big big problem with a drive
hello. I can access this drive on windows fine but nt on mac. I have ntfs3g and macfuse installed A few days ago I received this odd message. i have a recording of me troubleshooting but basically I ran chkdsk and rebooted twice in to windows then I tried to repair permissions ont he drive with no success. Here ya go. the error message happened to be caught on tape. I cann ot transcribe it. Here's the clip. feel free to skim. it is kind of long. http://twaud.io/874 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Strange behavior from adium
Hi all, I'm getting some strange behavior from voiceover when adium is running. Whenever someone signs in or out, voiceover will say "row 1 expanded" as if I was working with the list of contacts. This happens if I am not even in the adium window. The row number is different each time, probably referring to the row that contains the group that the contact belongs to. I have Adium linked to my Facebook account, so I have a lot of contacts, and they are constantly coming and going. I turned off the audio notifications, but hearing table rows being expanded all of the time will soon drive me to stop using Adium with facebook. Is there a setting somewhere that can be changed to stop this? I'd prefer it to be something I can do in Adium. Changing a voiceover verbosity setting would lose output that may be useful in other situations. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Strange behavior from adium
Hi, In Adium, go to the View menu, and Click Hide Groups I think it's called. That should fix it. The groups are the Contacts groups like Facebook, Friends from WLM and Buddies from AIM (I don't think names are changed of groups.) That above step should fix that annoyance for you. HTH, Jeffrey On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Justin Ekis wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm getting some strange behavior from voiceover when adium is running. > Whenever someone signs in or out, voiceover will say "row 1 expanded" as if I > was working with the list of contacts. This happens if I am not even in the > adium window. The row number is different each time, probably referring to > the row that contains the group that the contact belongs to. > > I have Adium linked to my Facebook account, so I have a lot of contacts, and > they are constantly coming and going. I turned off the audio notifications, > but hearing table rows being expanded all of the time will soon drive me to > stop using Adium with facebook. Is there a setting somewhere that can be > changed to stop this? I'd prefer it to be something I can do in Adium. > Changing a voiceover verbosity setting would lose output that may be useful > in other situations. Any advice is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Justin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Skype.
Hi, I'll try to help. 1. When I want to know when someone is online, I noticed that if they are online, their name is above the Skype Test Call. That seems to be pretty consistent. If your not sure where the test call is, its in a table that lists all of your contacts in the main window. 2. When you download an application, your downloading the disc image. With most of these, you are able to run the program from the disc image, but if you want to put it in applications, you have to locate the Application file in the downloads folder and copy it to your applications folder. I feel like the way the Mac treats applications is much different than the way Windows treats them. Once I got used to how it works, I like the way Mac does it. Feels much cleaner. Hope this helps some Justin On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Okay so I've spent a few hours getting acquainted withmy MBP. I registered, > installed the latest updates and went through the VO tutorial. > > I downloaded and installed Skype. Not quite sure how I pulled it off since I > couldn't seem to run it from my downloads folder, but I did get the license > agreement and filled in my userid. More over, when I checked for updates > under the Skype menu it indicated that I had the current version, so it must > have downloaded and installed? > > This was the first app I attempted to use, so my questions are probably > pretty basic, but here goes: > > 1. How can I ascertain the status of contacts? I went into verbosity > settings (VO+V) but couldn't find any applicable options. I believe I recall > Mac users knowing which contacts were on as is possible with JFW, so I'm > probably missing something. > > 2. When I restarted, I can no longer locate Skype. I tried "applications" > (command+shift+a), the finder and the spotlight. Only the spotlight showed > me Skype but it appeared to only consist of the file I downloaded as well as > recently visited Skype pages from Safari history. > > 3. Back when I was able to run Skype I went through the options but could not > locate a way to place a test call. Perhaps the Mac has features rendering > this inapplicable, but I was curious whether this feature is not in the Mac > version, or perhaps I didn't look in the right place? > > Thanks in advance for any/all suggestions, and best regards. > Geoff > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hi. Sarah. I think I know where it is, but you will have to go into the prefs all the time to change. Best regards Annie. On Aug 12, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Use text edit. There is a checkbox in the prefs that alows the showing of > code or not when an html file is opened. I forgot where it is byt I can dig > up a blog post on it. > > S > On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Jonathan. >> >> That sounds great. But I have a problem, when I tries to make HTML. I really >> feel, that I got a lot of codes to navigate around with, sometimes it is >> difficult to find the real text among codes. Does there exist a HTML editor >> where I can toggle between a mode were it shows all codes and a mode where >> it only shows the text, that will make it easier to stand at the right place >> in the text, before you insert the codes. I hope you understand my problem. >> I have always used word for windows for such work, but I am using my mac >> more and more, and that is the only computer that really works for me. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: >> >>> Hello Annie, >>> >>> I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be >>> converted in a ePub file with sections. >>> I'll post it soon in my blog. >>> >>> Regards >>> Jonathan Chacón >>> El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: >>> Hi. I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can navigate in chapters. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: is there any accessible software for editing epub
Hi Jonathan. That would be really great. I have been looking for an EPub editor, but they are not accessible. Best regards Annie. On Aug 12, 2010, at 4:15 AM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: > Hello Annie, > > I use smulltron or bean to edit html code. > well, I think is better to develop a little application to set marks and > charapters. It's easyer than edit the html code. I'l think about that > > regards > Jonathan Chacón > > El 11/08/2010, a las 21:46, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: > >> Hi Jonathan. >> >> That sounds great. But I have a problem, when I tries to make HTML. I really >> feel, that I got a lot of codes to navigate around with, sometimes it is >> difficult to find the real text among codes. Does there exist a HTML editor >> where I can toggle between a mode were it shows all codes and a mode where >> it only shows the text, that will make it easier to stand at the right place >> in the text, before you insert the codes. I hope you understand my problem. >> I have always used word for windows for such work, but I am using my mac >> more and more, and that is the only computer that really works for me. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: >> >>> Hello Annie, >>> >>> I'l post an article to create simple HTML files with characters marks to be >>> converted in a ePub file with sections. >>> I'll post it soon in my blog. >>> >>> Regards >>> Jonathan Chacón >>> El 11/08/2010, a las 15:23, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: >>> Hi. I can now convert to EPub files. But is there any accessible software so that i can edit the epub files. It would be nice if I can mark up, so I can navigate in chapters. Best regards Annie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Teaching Mac to sighted people
Is this book available in an e book format, that I could read on my ipad? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, 11 August 2010 12:37 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it. Teresa On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having issues. I.E. He cannot see the icons on the doc, and he cannot find the address bar in Safari. Any advice? > > > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
