RE: External HD
Or format a drive to fat32 which allows reading and writing to the drive from both the mac and the windows environments. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Eickmeier Sent: Saturday, 7 August 2010 6:53 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: External HD Was going to suggest the same thing, since storage is getting cheaper and cheaper, even though there are ways that you could get a mac to both read and write to NTFS formatted drives. On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Justin Kauflin wrote: The Mac can read NTFS partitions, but out of the box, it can't write to them. With that said, it'd probably best if you were able to reformat the disc to the Mac format. In my opinion, go head and get another 1TB drive, as they just keep getting cheaper and cheaper, and have that Mac formatted. Then, you can copy the files over to the Mac formatted and have 2 copies of all your files. You can never back that stuff up enough:) Hope that helps Justin On Aug 7, 2010, at 2:10 AM, AndyBaracco wrote: i just realized that I posted this inquiry to the wrong list. it happens when you have been up since 4:15 AM. i am considering buying a mac. I have a Seagate 1 TB external USB HD that is about 3 quarters full of audio books, music, etc. it is formatted NTFS. Could i use this HD on a Mac, and what would i have to do first? Would it have to be reformatted and, if so, would i have to back up the media somewhere else and restore it when the reformat was accomplished? Andy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: booting from external mac drive!
No, once it is set, it remains as the drive the Mac boots from until you change it again. On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:05 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > So will the second option, that being the sys prefs allow for the starting up > off the external, each time it’s connected to the machines it’s being used on > or will I have to change it each time I try to start it up. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Thursday, 5 August 2010 9:54 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: booting from external mac drive! > > You have two options. > > Options: > 1. You can hold the option key down at boot and switch between the bootable > devices with the left/right arrow keys. > 2. You can open SYstem Preferences, select the startup disk option, and > choose which volume/device to boot from. > > Option 2 is your best bet . > > hth, > On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > > Hi Listers. > > I’ve just setup with the help of a work mate, a mac os10.6 bootable external > harddrive using firewire 800 as the connection type. > > Now however I’m trying to boot from this external os drive, but must be doing > it wrong. Can anyone else add information to how I boot a mac from this > external drive setup? > > Thanks for any help people can give me. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
shortcut for going to next thread directly from message window?
Hi list, This is a find from circumstance. I was having a day of doom without internet because of a sucky provider, so i decided to use my iphone for checking mail etc. Then i found out how i can delete move to previous or next message in a thread within the iphones mail app. I wanted to know if someone can tell me what the shorcut is for previous or next message, straight from within the message window. Oh, for my modem 3g connection, i just did a tethering with my current tel provider and it works seriously well. One stone, 3 birds. Wont go back to that stupid usb modem anymore :) Best regards, "Light has no value without darkness" blog: http://www.theblindsamurai.com twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 Phnom Penh: +85589900095 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Hiall! newby here!
Hi Allison! Or though I am new to this site, I have had my Mac since Nov. last year! I've only been online since Apr. And its taken me until this week to find this site [ I'm a bit thick ] and every one I know around here are jaws users with no interest in Mac! So this site is brilliant for me!! I've learnt more in the last few days than the rest of the year. But so far so good! :-] Focus aka ColinOn 7 Aug 2010, at 00:35, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi, > > It's nice to meet you. I'm Allison by the way. I've been using a mac since > April and I love it! I hope you are having a great day. Do you like being a > Mac user so far? > > Allison > > My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! > > > On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:35 AM, focus wrote: > >> I've just joined, I have been looking for a site like this for a while! >> yipy! >> some of you have already helped me without me having to ask >> Thanks for that! >> So I hope to probe your knowledge in the future! :-] >> Skype: focus_66 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Answering a Skype call
That's great, as I had problems answering calls too so thank you. Kawal. On 6 Aug 2010, at 21:50, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > How do you answer a skype call, & how do you know who is calling? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: somewhat ot: a new use for audiohijack pro
Hi Courtney. It is the best program for converting old cassettes in my opinion. Best regards Annie. On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > I hope this isn't to off-topic, but I've found another use for Audiohijack > pro. I'm using it to convert old cassettes, just plugging the line-in cable > into the computer then into the stereo. It sounds pretty good too. > HTH, > Courtney > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi. Yes the apex is supported. Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 to > be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to check the > apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the >> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the >> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" >> but nothing appears >> >> Isaac Obie wrote: >>> Hello Sonia, >>> If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in >>> there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. >>> Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille >>> display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see >>> what you can find on pairing with a cellphone >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Sonnia" >>> To: "MacVisionaries" >>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >>> Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >>> >>> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Annie, How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a while. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hi. Yes the apex is supported. Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" but nothing appears Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: somewhat ot: a new use for audiohijack pro
I've used Amadeus Pro for this purpose because I want a way to split the cassette contents into individually labeled tracks. Does Audiohijack Pro have editing ability that lets you do that and also save as mp3 or other itunes friendly format? Eric Caron On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi Courtney. > > It is the best program for converting old cassettes in my opinion. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I hope this isn't to off-topic, but I've found another use for Audiohijack >> pro. I'm using it to convert old cassettes, just plugging the line-in cable >> into the computer then into the stereo. It sounds pretty good too. >> HTH, >> Courtney >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: somewhat ot: a new use for audiohijack pro
Hi, Eric, In the toolbar, audiohijack pro does have a split button, and also, it has a place where you can add tags, I've never done that though. Also, it saves to Mp3. Hth, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Eric Caron wrote: > I've used Amadeus Pro for this purpose because I want a way to split the > cassette contents into individually labeled tracks. Does Audiohijack Pro > have editing ability that lets you do that and also save as mp3 or other > itunes friendly format? > > Eric Caron > On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> Hi Courtney. >> >> It is the best program for converting old cassettes in my opinion. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I hope this isn't to off-topic, but I've found another use for Audiohijack >>> pro. I'm using it to convert old cassettes, just plugging the line-in cable >>> into the computer then into the stereo. It sounds pretty good too. >>> HTH, >>> Courtney >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hi, see my comments below. Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-07, at 1:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > . These are: > * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. > Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. This is a fault of digital rights management schemes in general. The point of DRM after all is to limit the use of the content. As such, the more people who have the keys to the kingdom, the less limiting it is and the more chance of unauthorized use. I'm sorry man, but that's just the way it is, and when you're talking about this stuff, it works the other way around. IE, you could just as easily have been a mac user all your life, switched to windows, and then found out to your horror that "Oh sh*t. My DRM isn't supported on this platform." That is one reason among many that I have been a boycotter of such things since I first got my computer more than 10 years ago now. > * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, > does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a > solution for this? Well, no promises, but if you want to give us an example website to work on, there are a lot of really smart and experienced mac users here and we'll do what we can to get you up and running. > * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash How > many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks who > have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this short > of switching to Windows? Flash support for windows? We have? Hum, yes I've read something about that, but to be honest, I teach jaws and window-eyes on all windows platforms, and I have yet to see really elegant flash support in either high end package. And at that, if the developer of your website flash content decides to ignore the accessibility features that are available in flash then your viewing experience will be poor on any platform. Unfortunately for us, apple has decided that adobe products are redundant and adobe has decided against building apple accessibility support. Fortunately for us, HTML 5 will hopefully emerge and put adobe out of the active web content business. It's just a waiting game at this point. but again, if you want to post a specific example of the content you're trying to use, some one might know of or be able to find a workaround. Flash isn't hopeless on the mac, only the people who design and develop on it are. > Happy for folks' perspectives. > Yeh, sorry I couldn't be more immediate help. > Thanks. Rajiv > > Original message >> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >> From: Michael Busboom >> Subject: Re: Reopen office >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> Hello Rajiv, >> >> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word processing >> options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word processing >> app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same level of >> accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will let you >> know. >> >> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >> less and less. >> >> Take care, >> >> Mike >> >> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with >>> column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, >>> this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, >>> Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left >>> Windows in the first place. >>> >>> Rajiv >>> >>> >>> >>> Original message Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 From: Michael Busboom Subject: Re: Reopen office To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you have to produce DOC files? Thanks, Mike On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in java. > I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can > interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. > > Take care. > On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Erik, >> >> You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the >> following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful >> responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have missed >> my note and you may have some thoughts. I would
RE: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hello. My goal is to switch completely to the mac but over time. The good news is that you don't have to switch completely right away. I use VM Fusion and run Windows 7 and the mac os at the same time. Then I get the best of both worlds. I can gradually learn to use the IWork suite while still getting my work done. VMFusion costs about 100. I installed Windows 7 and JAWS. I am also trying Window-Eyes. It works very well. In fact, there are two real advantages. 1. I can store all my documents on the Mac side and have a clean image of the Windows OS. If I lose my windows image, I just restore my image and I'm good to go. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rajiv Shah Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:49 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office Hi, Thanks for your reply. I recently bought a Mac but can't seem to justify the purchase to myself completely a month after. There are several areas where Windows still holds primacy over the Mac and there seems no way out in terms of my daily usage. These are: * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a solution for this? * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash How many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks who have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this short of switching to Windows? Happy for folks' perspectives. Thanks. Rajiv Original message >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >From: Michael Busboom >Subject: Re: Reopen office >To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >Hello Rajiv, > >I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word processing options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word processing app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same level of accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will let you know. > >All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows less and less. > >Take care, > >Mike > >On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left Windows in the first place. >> >> Rajiv >> >> >> >> Original message >>> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 >>> From: Michael Busboom >>> Subject: Re: Reopen office >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you have to produce DOC files? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mike >>> On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in java. I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. Take care. On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello Erik, > > You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have missed my note and you may have some thoughts. I would be curious to know if you have the same issues when using Open Office. > > I wrote: > > Hi. > > I am running the latest version of Open Office and am having an annoying problem reading documents. > > Whenever I arrow up or down through a document, VO will make a soft clicking sound, say "edit Text" and then read the text on that particular line. Whenever I try to interact with the document, I am only permitted to interact with the line that I am currently on. > > Is there a way to change the behavior of either VO or Open Office to make listening to text easier as I arrow through it, or is this something with which one must live when using Open Office and VoiceOver? Are there any "must settings" in the View menu options that need to be taken into consideration? > > Thanks and best regards, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less bloated and less proprietary. For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it with JAWS. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi. Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Annie, > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a while. > Thanks. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > >> Hi. >> >> Yes the apex is supported. >> >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is >> or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 to >>> be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to check the >>> apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" but nothing appears Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Sonia, > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, > in > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > Isaac > - Original Message - > From: "Sonnia" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks >> everyone. :-) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hi. I have had my mac for almost a year now, and I love it. I have never been good friends with flash, in my opinion flash also gives some problems on windows. I have a vmware windows xp, that I use when it is absolutely needed. There is only two thing that is not really good for me on the mac, one thing is ocr, yes I can use readiris, but finereader 10 is the best ocr recognition software ever, so I run that from windows. THen I still have some issues with wordprocessing, that I am not fully satisfied with. That has to do with making headings in documents, so they are easier to navigate through, I've never found a solution on that, but for everything else, I use my mac. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less > bloated and less proprietary. > > For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it with > JAWS. > > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mini or MacBookPro?
Greetings y'all, For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google suspected of being spam. This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a while and the 8% savings is tempting. I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and 70 GB less disk storage. I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly appreciated! 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hi, Mouse-over works fine with vo and Safari. the only problem is that vo doesn't announce that the element is a mouse-over. If we want to be intellectually honest, flash support on the Windows side has always been very limited at best. Flash will soon become obsolete anyhow. I don't use DRM content and never felt like I had to. That would never be a deciding factor for me using or not using a platform where there is already a screen reading solution built in to the system that I didn't have to pay extra for and that, in my opinion, is superior to Windows screen readers in many ways. If you feel like you have to do any of the fore mentioned activities, run Windows virtually. On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. > > I recently bought a Mac but can't seem to justify the purchase to myself > completely a month after. There are several areas where Windows still holds > primacy over the Mac and there seems no way out in terms of my daily usage. > These are: > * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. > Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. > * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, > does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a > solution for this? > * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash How > many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks who > have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this short > of switching to Windows? > > Happy for folks' perspectives. > > Thanks. Rajiv > > Original message >> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >> From: Michael Busboom >> Subject: Re: Reopen office >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> Hello Rajiv, >> >> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word processing >> options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word processing >> app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same level of >> accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will let you >> know. >> >> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >> less and less. >> >> Take care, >> >> Mike >> >> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with >>> column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, >>> this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, >>> Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left >>> Windows in the first place. >>> >>> Rajiv >>> >>> >>> >>> Original message Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 From: Michael Busboom Subject: Re: Reopen office To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you have to produce DOC files? Thanks, Mike On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in java. > I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can > interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. > > Take care. > On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Erik, >> >> You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the >> following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful >> responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have missed >> my note and you may have some thoughts. I would be curious to know if >> you have the same issues when using Open Office. >> >> I wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> I am running the latest version of Open Office and am having an annoying >> problem reading documents. >> >> Whenever I arrow up or down through a document, VO will make a soft >> clicking sound, say "edit Text" and then read the text on that >> particular line. Whenever I try to interact with the document, I am >> only permitted to interact with the line that I am currently on. >> >> Is there a way to change the behavior of either VO or Open Office to >> make listening to text easier as I arrow through it, or is this >> something with which one must live when using Open Office and VoiceOver? >> Are there any "must settings" in the View menu options that need to be >> taken into consideration? >> >> Thanks and best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group,
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
The mac mini is really meant to be a mini desktop not a portable unit. Also it doesn't work well at all without a monitor. That being said if you don't need portability and you have an old or a cheap monitor kicking around it's a great option and has as much horespower as the basic macbook pro. It is also considerably cheaper so that is certainly a plus. Hopefully that helps. 7, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently > started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. > Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google > suspected of being spam. > > This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers > from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a > while and the 8% savings is tempting. > > I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses > would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app > development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would > make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. > > With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end > MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing > the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra > memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and > 70 GB less disk storage. > > I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those > rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. > > Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly > appreciated! > > 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and > processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. > > 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? > > 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with > the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. > But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > > > Hello Annie, > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > > while. Thanks. > > Isaac > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > >> Hi. > >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. > >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is > >> or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. > >> > >> Best regards Annie. > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 > >>> to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to > >>> check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >>> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" > but nothing appears > > Isaac Obie wrote: > > Hello Sonia, > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > > guide, in > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > > braille > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and > > see > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > > Isaac > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sonnia" > > To: "MacVisionaries" > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to > >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > >> everyone. :-) > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send em
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth on and it couldn't find the apex either. Sonnia wrote: > Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. > > But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > > > > Best regards Annie. > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > > > > > Hello Annie, > > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > > > while. Thanks. > > > Isaac > > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > > > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > > > > >> Hi. > > >> > > >> Yes the apex is supported. > > >> > > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > > >> > > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code > > >> is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. > > >> > > >> Best regards Annie. > > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > >> > > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS > > >>> 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to > > >>> check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > > >>> > > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the > > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" > > but nothing appears > > > > Isaac Obie wrote: > > > Hello Sonia, > > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > > > guide, in > > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > > > braille > > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide > > > and see > > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > > > Isaac > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Sonnia" > > > To: "MacVisionaries" > > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > > > > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to > > >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I > > >> read > > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > > >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > > >> everyone. :-) > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups > > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > > To post to this group, send email t
Re: Sonnia Iphone and braille note apex
Hi Sonnia! I do not use ether device but I know that some bluetooth device's can be hidden your apxx should not be hidden but the Iphone might! if I'm wrong sorry! :-] On 7 Aug 2010, at 17:35, Sonnia wrote: > Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. >> But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> >>> Hello Annie, >>> How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a >>> while. Thanks. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >>> >>> Hi. Yes the apex is supported. Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 > to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to > check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the >> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the >> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" >> but nothing appears >> >> Isaac Obie wrote: >>> Hello Sonia, >>> If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user >>> guide, in >>> there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. >>> Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my >>> braille >>> display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and >>> see >>> what you can find on pairing with a cellphone >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Sonnia" >>> To: "MacVisionaries" >>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >>> Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >>> >>> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@goog
Re: shortcut for going to next thread directly from message window?
I don't thimk thetre is ome but I could be wromg though. On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:25, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, > > This is a find from circumstance. > > I was having a day of doom without internet because of a sucky provider, so i > decided to use my iphone for checking mail etc. > > Then i found out how i can delete move to previous or next message in a > thread within the iphones mail app. > > I wanted to know if someone can tell me what the shorcut is for previous or > next message, straight from within the message window. > > Oh, for my modem 3g connection, i just did a tethering with my current tel > provider and it works seriously well. > > One stone, 3 birds. Wont go back to that stupid usb modem anymore :) > > > Best regards, > > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > > blog: http://www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 > Phnom Penh: +85589900095 > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: pdf and games
thanks Kevin, yeah I've also tried chess and can't win. does anyone else know more about this topics? El 06/08/2010, a las 18:46, Kevin Shaw escribió: > HI Rafaela, > > Preview is great for PDF files. You can set bookmarks with COMMAND-D I > believe. No idea about games, other than the fact that chess is fully > accessible and that I've never won at it. > > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sonnia Iphone and braille note apex
Hi. I think you might need to put the Apex into braille terminal mode and tell it to use bluetooth for it's connection in the bluetooth manager? Sent from my iPhone On 07/08/2010, at 18:06, focus wrote: > Hi Sonnia! > I do not use ether device but I know that some bluetooth device's can be > hidden your apxx should not be hidden but the Iphone might! > if I'm wrong sorry! > :-] > On 7 Aug 2010, at 17:35, Sonnia wrote: > >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. >>> But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >>> >>> Best regards Annie. >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >>> Hello Annie, How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a while. Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Hi. > > Yes the apex is supported. > > Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > > You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code > is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 >> to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to >> check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> >>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the >>> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the >>> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" >>> but nothing appears >>> >>> Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and see what you can find on pairing with a cellphone Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to > pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read > something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > everyone. :-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http:
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi Jeff, Yes, you can use that wireless keyboard with a mini, and yes, you need a monitor with the mini, and I don't know if usb displays work or not. The other thing you get with the notebook that you don't get with the mini is the touch pad. Since your keyboard lacks a numeric keypad, you won't be able to use num pad commander with your mini And Unless you buy the magic trackpad, you won't have a touch pad either for using track pad commander. which leaves you with just keyboard commander. there are a lot of multi-finger voice over commands that can be made a whole lot simpler with the use of these commanders, so if you go for the mini, you may want to look around for an older Apple wireless or even usb keyboard and/or purchase the magic trackpad. When I got my mini, Apple offered an upgrade, so you could get 4 gb of memory, which I did, because I thought I was going to run Windows and fusion or bootcamp at the time I bought the mini. Unless you need portability or have limited desktop real estate that would make a notebook more attractive than mini plus keyboard plus monitor and possible magic trackpad, I'd get the Mini. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Sonnia Iphone and braille note apex
I tried putting the apex in terminal mode... it must be hidden because the results were the same. :( Thuy Mallalieu wrote: > Hi. I think you might need to put the Apex into braille terminal mode and > tell it to use bluetooth for it's connection in the bluetooth manager? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 07/08/2010, at 18:06, focus wrote: > > > Hi Sonnia! > > I do not use ether device but I know that some bluetooth device's can be > > hidden your apxx should not be hidden but the Iphone might! > > if I'm wrong sorry! > > :-] > > On 7 Aug 2010, at 17:35, Sonnia wrote: > > > >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a > >>> guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > >>> > >>> Best regards Annie. > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > >>> > Hello Annie, > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > while. Thanks. > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > Hi. > > > > Yes the apex is supported. > > > > Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > > > > You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code > > is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. > > > > Best regards Annie. > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > > >> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS > >> 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to > >> check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> > >>> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > >>> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the > >>> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" > >>> but nothing appears > >>> > >>> Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Sonia, > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > guide, in > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > braille > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide > and see > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > Isaac > - Original Message - > From: "Sonnia" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how > > to > > pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. > > Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I > > read > > something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need > > one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > > everyone. :-) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi again. Then try to open settings accessibility VoiceOver and braille, and try if you can add it from there. Best regards Annie.On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Sonnia wrote: > Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a guess. >> But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> >> Best regards Annie. >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> >>> Hello Annie, >>> How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a >>> while. Thanks. >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >>> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >>> >>> Hi. Yes the apex is supported. Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write again. Best regards Annie. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by iOS 4 > to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, is to > check the apple accessibility page at http://apple.com/accessibility. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the >> services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow the >> iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying "searching" >> but nothing appears >> >> Isaac Obie wrote: >>> Hello Sonia, >>> If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user >>> guide, in >>> there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. >>> Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my >>> braille >>> display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user guide and >>> see >>> what you can find on pairing with a cellphone >>> Isaac >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Sonnia" >>> To: "MacVisionaries" >>> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >>> Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >>> >>> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still confused. Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? I read something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i need one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks everyone. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options
Wave pad
Hi all, I am looking for a audio editor. Wave pad is on sale for 39 bucks. Any one using wave pad? What audio editors do you all think is best? Thank you for any information. Louie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Wave pad
HI Louie, Audio Hijack Pro and Amadeus Pro are both Voiceover accessible. Not sure about Wave Pad. They're both reasonably priced. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth on and it couldn't find the apex either. Sonnia wrote: Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > > > Hello Annie, > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > > while. Thanks. > > Isaac > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > > > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > >> Hi. > >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. > >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write > >> again. > >> > >> Best regards Annie. > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >>> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow > the > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying > "searching" > but nothing appears > > Isaac Obie wrote: > > Hello Sonia, > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > > guide, in > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > > braille > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user > > guide and see > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > > Isaac > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sonnia" > > To: "MacVisionaries" > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on > >> how to > >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still > >> confused. > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? > >> I read > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i > >> need > >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > >> everyone. :-) > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received th
copying and pasting text from the web
Hi: I'm having issues copying and pasting text from the web. For example, I log in to my banking site, see my credit card balance. I place my cursor on the $. Press vo enter, then shift right arrow to highlight the amount. I press control c to copy, vo enter to stop selecting. I go to the pay bill section, interact with the edit field where you type in your amount, and press command v to paste. The amount pastes; however when I stop interacting with the edit field, & click the submit payment button, I receive a message saying the payment amount field is empty. Help! Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Hi, as far as the mouse over thing, voice over works fine with this, you will notice that on some elements, voice over says clickable after the item this means you can activate this item as if it's a link. As far as flash goes, blame adobe for this, not voice over, Adobe has been unwilling to expose their content using the accessibility apis that Apple has provided. Actually, with the introduction of html 5 which provides native support for videos and other similar content, flash will hopefully become a thing of the past. For me, I usually disable safari plug ins unless I'm viewing something such as a youtube video, this usually causes the site to provide a nonflash version of the page. On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for your reply. > > I recently bought a Mac but can't seem to justify the purchase to myself > completely a month after. There are several areas where Windows still holds > primacy over the Mac and there seems no way out in terms of my daily usage. > These are: > * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. > Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. > * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, > does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a > solution for this? > * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash How > many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks who > have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this short > of switching to Windows? > > Happy for folks' perspectives. > > Thanks. Rajiv > > Original message >> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >> From: Michael Busboom >> Subject: Re: Reopen office >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> Hello Rajiv, >> >> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word processing >> options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word processing >> app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same level of >> accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will let you >> know. >> >> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >> less and less. >> >> Take care, >> >> Mike >> >> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with >>> column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, >>> this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, >>> Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left >>> Windows in the first place. >>> >>> Rajiv >>> >>> >>> >>> Original message Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 From: Michael Busboom Subject: Re: Reopen office To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you have to produce DOC files? Thanks, Mike On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in java. > I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can > interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. > > Take care. > On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Hello Erik, >> >> You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the >> following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful >> responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have missed >> my note and you may have some thoughts. I would be curious to know if >> you have the same issues when using Open Office. >> >> I wrote: >> >> Hi. >> >> I am running the latest version of Open Office and am having an annoying >> problem reading documents. >> >> Whenever I arrow up or down through a document, VO will make a soft >> clicking sound, say "edit Text" and then read the text on that >> particular line. Whenever I try to interact with the document, I am >> only permitted to interact with the line that I am currently on. >> >> Is there a way to change the behavior of either VO or Open Office to >> make listening to text easier as I arrow through it, or is this >> something with which one must live when using Open Office and VoiceOver? >> Are there any "must settings" in the View menu options that need to be >> taken into consideration? >> >> Thanks and best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this g
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
A few other comments here, I agree that the drm issue is more of a fault of the DRM itself, not the mac. I too boycott anything with DRM when I can. Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:53 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi, see my comments below. > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > On 2010-08-07, at 1:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> . These are: >> * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. >> Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. > > This is a fault of digital rights management schemes in general. The point > of DRM after all is to limit the use of the content. As such, the more > people who have the keys to the kingdom, the less limiting it is and the more > chance of unauthorized use. I'm sorry man, but that's just the way it is, > and when you're talking about this stuff, it works the other way around. IE, > you could just as easily have been a mac user all your life, switched to > windows, and then found out to your horror that "Oh sh*t. My DRM isn't > supported on this platform." That is one reason among many that I have been > a boycotter of such things since I first got my computer more than 10 years > ago now. >> * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, >> does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a >> solution for this? > Well, no promises, but if you want to give us an example website to work on, > there are a lot of really smart and experienced mac users here and we'll do > what we can to get you up and running. > >> * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash >> How many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks >> who have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this >> short of switching to Windows? > Flash support for windows? We have? Hum, yes I've read something about > that, but to be honest, I teach jaws and window-eyes on all windows > platforms, and I have yet to see really elegant flash support in either high > end package. And at that, if the developer of your website flash content > decides to ignore the accessibility features that are available in flash then > your viewing experience will be poor on any platform. Unfortunately for us, > apple has decided that adobe products are redundant and adobe has decided > against building apple accessibility support. Fortunately for us, HTML 5 > will hopefully emerge and put adobe out of the active web content business. > It's just a waiting game at this point. but again, if you want to post a > specific example of the content you're trying to use, some one might know of > or be able to find a workaround. Flash isn't hopeless on the mac, only the > people who design and develop on it are. > >> Happy for folks' perspectives. >> > Yeh, sorry I couldn't be more immediate help. > >> Thanks. Rajiv >> >> Original message >>> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >>> From: Michael Busboom >>> Subject: Re: Reopen office >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Hello Rajiv, >>> >>> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >>> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word >>> processing options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word >>> processing app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same >>> level of accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will >>> let you know. >>> >>> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >>> less and less. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >>> Hi, With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left Windows in the first place. Rajiv Original message > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 > From: Michael Busboom > Subject: Re: Reopen office > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you > have to produce DOC files? > > Thanks, > > Mike > On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
As a matter of interest, fine reader is also available for the mac, and it is accessible. On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > Hi. > > I have had my mac for almost a year now, and I love it. > > I have never been good friends with flash, in my opinion flash also gives > some problems on windows. I have a vmware windows xp, that I use when it is > absolutely needed. There is only two thing that is not really good for me on > the mac, one thing is ocr, yes I can use readiris, but finereader 10 is the > best ocr recognition software ever, so I run that from windows. THen I still > have some issues with wordprocessing, that I am not fully satisfied with. > That has to do with making headings in documents, so they are easier to > navigate through, I've never found a solution on that, but for everything > else, I use my mac. > > Best regards Annie. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > >> Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less >> bloated and less proprietary. >> >> For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it with >> JAWS. >> >> Kevin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that would also meet your needs I think. On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently > started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. > Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google > suspected of being spam. > > This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers > from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a > while and the 8% savings is tempting. > > I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses > would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app > development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would > make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. > > With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end > MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing > the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra > memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and > 70 GB less disk storage. > > I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those > rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. > > Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly > appreciated! > > 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and > processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. > > 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? > > 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with > the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Unless I'm mistaken, voice over does actually support the mouse over thing, it says clickable after reading the item. On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:45 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > Hi, > > Mouse-over works fine with vo and Safari. the only problem is that vo > doesn't announce that the element is a mouse-over. > > If we want to be intellectually honest, flash support on the Windows side has > always been very limited at best. Flash will soon become obsolete anyhow. > > I don't use DRM content and never felt like I had to. That would never be a > deciding factor for me using or not using a platform where there is already a > screen reading solution built in to the system that I didn't have to pay > extra for and that, in my opinion, is superior to Windows screen readers in > many ways. > > If you feel like you have to do any of the fore mentioned activities, run > Windows virtually. > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> I recently bought a Mac but can't seem to justify the purchase to myself >> completely a month after. There are several areas where Windows still holds >> primacy over the Mac and there seems no way out in terms of my daily usage. >> These are: >> * DRM streaming: Some DRM video streaming is still only limited to Windows. >> Quite frustrating when you are hoping for a speedy conversion to the Mac. >> * Lack of VoiceOver accessibility support. VoiceOver as far as I can tell, >> does not support the onMouseover event handler. Maybe you folks have a >> solution for this? >> * Flash support: As far as I know, VoiceOver still does not support Flash >> How many years have we had support in Windows. Eight, perhaps? How do folks >> who have made the near complete Windows-to-Mac transition work around this >> short of switching to Windows? >> >> Happy for folks' perspectives. >> >> Thanks. Rajiv >> >> Original message >>> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:33:52 +0200 >>> From: Michael Busboom >>> Subject: Re: Reopen office >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Hello Rajiv, >>> >>> I partially share your sentiments. I am ecstatic about my Mac, love a lot >>> of its functionality but find myself wishing that I had more word >>> processing options that worked well with VoiceOver. If I discover a word >>> processing app that works well on the Mac with VO and gives me the same >>> level of accessibility that I have with Window-Eyes and MS Office, I will >>> let you know. >>> >>> All of that having been said, I love my Mac, and find myself using Windows >>> less and less. >>> >>> Take care, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 4,Aug,2010, at 2:57 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >>> Hi, With OpenOffice or any Word Processor, how do you read tables along with column headings efficiently. Despite all the declarations to the contrary, this is one area where I really miss Windows for any reading and, frankly, Parallels is not the answer for me. After all, this is why I partially left Windows in the first place. Rajiv Original message > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 19:36:26 +0200 > From: Michael Busboom > Subject: Re: Reopen office > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Just out of curiosity, Sarah, what text editor do you use when or if you > have to produce DOC files? > > Thanks, > > Mike > On 3,Aug,2010, at 6:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> OPen office tends to have some odd issues since it is is written in >> java. I don't get the clicking sound when it reads a paragraph but i can >> interact with th etext. I don't use open office for anything I do. >> >> Take care. >> On Aug 3, 2010, at 6:41 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello Erik, >>> >>> You may have missed this note but then again, maybe not. I sent the >>> following to the Macvisionaries List but didn't get any real helpful >>> responses. I'm not trying to badger you at all, but you may have >>> missed my note and you may have some thoughts. I would be curious to >>> know if you have the same issues when using Open Office. >>> >>> I wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I am running the latest version of Open Office and am having an >>> annoying problem reading documents. >>> >>> Whenever I arrow up or down through a document, VO will make a soft >>> clicking sound, say "edit Text" and then read the text on that >>> particular line. Whenever I try to interact with the document, I am >>> only permitted to interact with the line that I am currently on. >>> >>> Is there a way to change the behavior of either VO or Open Office to >>> make listening to text easier as I arrow through it, or is this >>> something with which one must live when using Open Office and >>> VoiceOver? Are there any "mu
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
You can also use any USB keyboard and it will work fine, that's what I do for one of my minis, and I actually like the touch better than the apple keyboards. On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Yes, you can use that wireless keyboard with a mini, and yes, you need a > monitor with the mini, and I don't know if usb displays work or not. The > other thing you get with the notebook that you don't get with the mini is the > touch pad. Since your keyboard lacks a numeric keypad, you won't be able to > use num pad commander with your mini And Unless you buy the magic trackpad, > you won't have a touch pad either for using track pad commander. which leaves > you with just keyboard commander. there are a lot of multi-finger voice over > commands that can be made a whole lot simpler with the use of these > commanders, so if you go for the mini, you may want to look around for an > older Apple wireless or even usb keyboard and/or purchase the magic trackpad. > When I got my mini, Apple offered an upgrade, so you could get 4 gb of > memory, which I did, because I thought I was going to run Windows and fusion > or bootcamp at the time I bought the mini. Unless you need portability or > have limited desktop real estate that would make a notebook more attractive > than mini plus keyboard plus monitor and possible magic trackpad, I'd get the > Mini. > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
HI, You wrote: "Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label." I think that's probably not the most productive attitude to take. Obviously flash content isn't really all that important to you and that's fine. Personally though, I'd rather hear button button button than sweet dick all. At least depending on how bad I want the content I can press the buttons and see what they do if they say button. I might even be able to label them if it's really really important. It would be nice if developers just labelled buttons properly. It would also be nice if they gave us access keys. It would also be nice if they would render the video and anamations tactiley on monitors that support the feature. I'd also rather they provided some one to take my client calls and clean my house so I could spend all day goofing off on the computer. It would be neato if I could get them to deliver my groceries and parcel post and it would be a nice bonus if they paid for it all... You see where I'm going with this. Make the most of what you have. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and subscribe. On 2010-08-07, at 6:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen > readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're > going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi, If money is a major concern, I would go with a regular Macbook or a Mac mini. The advantage of the Macbook is you get the multi gesture trackpad with it. You could buy one separately for $70 that connects via bluetooth but, why if you don't have to? The Mac mini doesn't work well at all without a monitor hooked up. The new Mac minis have HDMI ports now so you can hook it up to an hdtv as well. Anyone of these options is more than enough to do the tasks you intend to do. I do a lot of audio stuff on my Mac mini and I only have 2gb of ram and a 2.0ghz processor. And of course iTunes is a breath of fresh air on the Mac after using it on windows. :). You can contact me off list if you want more detailed info. hth On Aug 7, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > For the benefit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently > started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. > Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google > suspected of being spam. > > This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers > from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a > while and the 8% savings is tempting. > > I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses > would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app > development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would > make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. > > With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end > MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing > the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra > memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and > 70 GB less disk storage. > > I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those > rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. > > Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly > appreciated! > > 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and > processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. > > 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? > > 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with > the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? > > TIA and best regards. > Geoff > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: copying and pasting text from the web
When selecting the text, press VO enter, then highlight the text, and press VO enter again, then press command C to copy it. On Aug 7, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > I'm having issues copying and pasting text from the web. For example, I log > in to my banking site, see my credit card balance. I place my cursor on the > $. Press vo enter, then shift right arrow to highlight the amount. I press > control c to copy, vo enter to stop selecting. I go to the pay bill section, > interact with the edit field where you type in your amount, and press command > v to paste. The amount pastes; however when I stop interacting with the edit > field, & click the submit payment button, I receive a message saying the > payment amount field is empty. Help! > > > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi, Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini > requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. > Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can > connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a good > choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that would also > meet your needs I think. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings y'all, >> >> For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently >> started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. >> Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google >> suspected of being spam. >> >> This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers >> from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a >> while and the 8% savings is tempting. >> >> I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses >> would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app >> development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory >> would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can >> comment. >> >> With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end >> MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. >> Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB >> extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary >> around and 70 GB less disk storage. >> >> I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those >> rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. >> >> Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly >> appreciated! >> >> 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and >> processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. >> >> 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? >> >> 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with >> the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? >> >> TIA and best regards. >> Geoff >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: copying and pasting text from the web
Hmm, Maybe that is what I was doing wrong, pressing command c before vo enter? On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > When selecting the text, press VO enter, then highlight the text, and press > VO enter again, then press command C to copy it. > On Aug 7, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> I'm having issues copying and pasting text from the web. For example, I log >> in to my banking site, see my credit card balance. I place my cursor on the >> $. Press vo enter, then shift right arrow to highlight the amount. I press >> control c to copy, vo enter to stop selecting. I go to the pay bill section, >> interact with the edit field where you type in your amount, and press >> command v to paste. The amount pastes; however when I stop interacting with >> the edit field, & click the submit payment button, I receive a message >> saying the payment amount field is empty. Help! >> >> >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Has something changed such that there is now a full version of fine reader for the Mac? last I knew, it was the express version which isn't as good as the Windows version in terms of features. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi Mike, When I first got my mini, I tried an old Windows usb keyboard I had lying around the house. The Mini didn't see it. I haven't a clue why. mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi Jeff, As you are a iPhone user I think you would really like the Mac book with built in multi gesture track pad. Also, I use a 13 inch mac book white case and it would certainly do all you have mentioned. I just hook up a usb hub and I'm good to go. I love being able to take it with me when I travel. Nothing against the mini but if you have only one Mac it might be nice to have the flexibility of the Mac Book. Nice thing is you cant make a wrong choice. Both would work well. Eric Caron On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi, > Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. > Sarai Bucciarelli > Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini >> requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. >> Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can >> connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a >> good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that would >> also meet your needs I think. >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> >>> Greetings y'all, >>> >>> For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently >>> started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. >>> Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google >>> suspected of being spam. >>> >>> This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers >>> from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a >>> while and the 8% savings is tempting. >>> >>> I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses >>> would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app >>> development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory >>> would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can >>> comment. >>> >>> With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end >>> MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. >>> Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB >>> extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary >>> around and 70 GB less disk storage. >>> >>> I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on >>> those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. >>> >>> Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly >>> appreciated! >>> >>> 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and >>> processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. >>> >>> 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? >>> >>> 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with >>> the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? >>> >>> TIA and best regards. >>> Geoff >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Magic Jack
Hi everyone, I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen for Magic Jack. After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and I have to select "yes" to completely close it. I checked the menu but that only did the same as command Q. I tried turning tracking off and that didn't help. I tried the window chooser but there is only one window and I can't get to the yes button. All suggestions welcomed. Linda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Thanks much to all for their suggestions!! Since I don't want to be hooked to a display it seems that my choices are down to the MacBook vs MacBookPro. From Eric's description the track pad sounds like a priority. Is that what distinguishes a macBook from a pro? As Ricardo points out I could purchase one separately, but I would think that having it built in without needing to keep track of another peripheral would be an attractive option. Take care. Geoff - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Mini or MacBookPro? Hi Jeff, As you are a iPhone user I think you would really like the Mac book with built in multi gesture track pad. Also, I use a 13 inch mac book white case and it would certainly do all you have mentioned. I just hook up a usb hub and I'm good to go. I love being able to take it with me when I travel. Nothing against the mini but if you have only one Mac it might be nice to have the flexibility of the Mac Book. Nice thing is you cant make a wrong choice. Both would work well. Eric Caron On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi, Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that would also meet your needs I think. On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google suspected of being spam. This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a while and the 8% savings is tempting. I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and 70 GB less disk storage. I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly appreciated! 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionar
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Hi Geoff, No. Both the Macbook, and Macbook pro come with a multi gesture trackpad. The things that separate one from the other are 1. Material: the Macbook is plastic while the Macbookpro is allonym. 2. Upgradeable: The Macbook pro will allow you to expand to 8gb of ram and a faster processor than the macbook. 3. connections: I believe the Macbook pro has more USB ports as well as a firewire port. These are the main differences between the 2 Macs. hth On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Thanks much to all for their suggestions!! Since I don't want to be hooked > to a display it seems that my choices are down to the MacBook vs MacBookPro. > > From Eric's description the track pad sounds like a priority. Is that what > distinguishes a macBook from a pro? As Ricardo points out I could purchase > one separately, but I would think that having it built in without needing to > keep track of another peripheral would be an attractive option. > > Take care. > Geoff > > > - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: Mini or MacBookPro? > > > Hi Jeff, > > As you are a iPhone user I think you would really like the Mac book with > built in multi gesture track pad. Also, I use a 13 inch mac book white case > and it would certainly do all you have mentioned. I just hook up a usb hub > and I'm good to go. I love being able to take it with me when I travel. > Nothing against the mini but if you have only one Mac it might be nice to > have the flexibility of the Mac Book. > > Nice thing is you cant make a wrong choice. Both would work well. > > Eric Caron > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi, >> Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini >>> requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. >>> Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can >>> connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a >>> good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that >>> would also meet your needs I think. >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> Greetings y'all, For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google suspected of being spam. This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a while and the 8% savings is tempting. I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and 70 GB less disk storage. I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly appreciated! 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
And don't macbook pros, even the cheapest one, start with 4 gb of ram, whereas the macbook has 2? Mac Mall has the Macbook for $969 as of the last price i saw earlier this week. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
My Mac book Pro 15 has the following connections all on the left side: 1. Earphone or output jack. This jack also functions as a 5.1 channel digital output when running DVD player or any source capable of 5.1 channel sound. 2. Just behind this is the line-in jack. I think it's also a digital input, but not sure. 3. The card reader. 4. Two USB ports. 5. The IEEE1394 port, (fire wire port). 6. The Mac monitor display jack. 7. Power adapter jack. HTH. The Ethernet port, (used to connect to cable modems via RJ45 cable). Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:56 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > No. Both the Macbook, and Macbook pro come with a multi gesture trackpad. > The things that separate one from the other are > 1. Material: the Macbook is plastic while the Macbookpro is allonym. > 2. Upgradeable: The Macbook pro will allow you to expand to 8gb of ram and a > faster processor than the macbook. > 3. connections: I believe the Macbook pro has more USB ports as well as a > firewire port. > > These are the main differences between the 2 Macs. > > hth > On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Thanks much to all for their suggestions!! Since I don't want to be hooked >> to a display it seems that my choices are down to the MacBook vs MacBookPro. >> >> From Eric's description the track pad sounds like a priority. Is that what >> distinguishes a macBook from a pro? As Ricardo points out I could purchase >> one separately, but I would think that having it built in without needing to >> keep track of another peripheral would be an attractive option. >> >> Take care. >> Geoff >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:58 PM >> Subject: Re: Mini or MacBookPro? >> >> >> Hi Jeff, >> >> As you are a iPhone user I think you would really like the Mac book with >> built in multi gesture track pad. Also, I use a 13 inch mac book white >> case and it would certainly do all you have mentioned. I just hook up a usb >> hub and I'm good to go. I love being able to take it with me when I >> travel. Nothing against the mini but if you have only one Mac it might be >> nice to have the flexibility of the Mac Book. >> >> Nice thing is you cant make a wrong choice. Both would work well. >> >> Eric Caron >> >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. >>> Sarai Bucciarelli >>> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >>> >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that would also meet your needs I think. On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Greetings y'all, > > For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I > recently started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of > this list. Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that > Google suspected of being spam. > > This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as > computers from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple > world for a while and the 8% savings is tempting. > > I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary > uses would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully > app development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and > memory would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac > users can comment. > > With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end > MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. > Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, > 2GB extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to > cary around and 70 GB less disk storage. > > I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on > those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. > > Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly > appreciated! > > 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and > processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. > > 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? > > 3. I already own an Apple wirel
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Right, But if you added the extra 2gb of ram to a Macbook, it would be the same price as the standard Macbookpro 13 inch. lol. The thing is, the plastic Macbook doesn't go any higher. So 2 years from now if you want more ram you might be screwed. :). Oh. And I forgot the SD slot on the Macbook pro. I don't believe the plastic macbook has that. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > And don't macbook pros, even the cheapest one, start with 4 gb of ram, > whereas the macbook has 2? Mac Mall has the Macbook for $969 as of the last > price i saw earlier this week. > > Mary > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Magic Jack
Hi Linda, Try force quitting the app. You can find this in the Apple menu in the menu bar or, press command option escape. hth On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen for > Magic Jack. After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and I have > to select "yes" to completely close it. I checked the menu but that only did > the same as command Q. I tried turning tracking off and that didn't help. I > tried the window chooser but there is only one window and I can't get to the > yes button. > > All suggestions welcomed. > Linda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office
Lol, I agree. I rather have 5 unknown buttons to press than, no button at all. On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:25 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > HI, > > You wrote: > "Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen > readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're > going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label." > > I think that's probably not the most productive attitude to take. Obviously > flash content isn't really all that important to you and that's fine. > Personally though, I'd rather hear button button button than sweet dick all. > At least depending on how bad I want the content I can press the buttons and > see what they do if they say button. I might even be able to label them if > it's really really important. It would be nice if developers just labelled > buttons properly. It would also be nice if they gave us access keys. It > would also be nice if they would render the video and anamations tactiley on > monitors that support the feature. I'd also rather they provided some one to > take my client calls and clean my house so I could spend all day goofing off > on the computer. It would be neato if I could get them to deliver my > groceries and parcel post and it would be a nice bonus if they paid for it > all... You see where I'm going with this. Make the most of what you have. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. > Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and > subscribe. > > On 2010-08-07, at 6:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Most of the time, flash content is not labeled, so even the windows screen >> readers will just say button, button, button, etc. And if that's all they're >> going to say, I would rather it not say anything since there's no label. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: shortcut for going to next thread directly from message window?
Hi, There is no shortcut like a gesture or something like that. You can do a 4 finger flick up that will bring you back to the top of the page then flick right twice and you will be on the previous and next buttons. hth On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, > > This is a find from circumstance. > > I was having a day of doom without internet because of a sucky provider, so i > decided to use my iphone for checking mail etc. > > Then i found out how i can delete move to previous or next message in a > thread within the iphones mail app. > > I wanted to know if someone can tell me what the shorcut is for previous or > next message, straight from within the message window. > > Oh, for my modem 3g connection, i just did a tethering with my current tel > provider and it works seriously well. > > One stone, 3 birds. Wont go back to that stupid usb modem anymore :) > > > Best regards, > > > > > "Light has no value without darkness" > > blog: http://www.theblindsamurai.com > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +64 210 22 77 190 > Phnom Penh: +85589900095 > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call apple or humanware and see what the next step would be Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Sonia, > I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the > iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not > spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why > don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and > let them help you with it??? > Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup > process. > I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. > Isaac > - Original Message - > From: "Sonnia" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > > > > Sonnia wrote: > >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> > Hi. > >> > > >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a > >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > >> > > >> > Best regards Annie. > >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hello Annie, > >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for quite a > >> > > while. Thanks. > >> > > Isaac > >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > >> > > > >> > > To: > >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hi. > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. > >> > >> > >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > >> > >> > >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think the > >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write > >> > >> again. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best regards Annie. > >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported by > >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be sure, > >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at > >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. > >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and the > >> > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." somehow > >> > the > >> > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying > >> > "searching" > >> > but nothing appears > >> > > >> > Isaac Obie wrote: > >> > > Hello Sonia, > >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for user > >> > > guide, in > >> > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired my > >> > > braille > >> > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user > >> > > guide and see > >> > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone > >> > > Isaac > >> > > - Original Message - > >> > > From: "Sonnia" > >> > > To: "MacVisionaries" > >> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM > >> > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions on > >> > >> how to > >> > >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still > >> > >> confused. > >> > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? > >> > >> I read > >> > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if i > >> > >> need > >> > >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks > >> > >> everyone. :-) > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> > >> Google Groups > >> > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> > >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to figure something out. One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this issue? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call apple or humanware and see what the next step would be Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > > Sonnia wrote: >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> > Hi. >> > >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> > >> > Best regards Annie. >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> > >> > > Hello Annie, >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> > > quite a >> > > while. Thanks. >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> > > >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> > >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> > >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> > >> the >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write >> > >> again. >> > >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported >> > >>> by >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be >> > >>> sure, >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> > >>> >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and >> > the >> > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> > somehow >> > the >> > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying >> > "searching" >> > but nothing appears >> > >> > Isaac Obie wrote: >> > > Hello Sonia, >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for >> > > user >> > > guide, in >> > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired >> > > my >> > > braille >> > > display with the iphone 4. So look under options, u for user >> > > guide and see >> > > what you can find on pairing with a cellphone >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - >> > > From: "Sonnia" >> > > To: "MacVisionaries" >> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >> > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions >> > >> on >> > >> how to >> > >> pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm still >> > >> confused. >> > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to >> > >> begin? >> > >> I read >> > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not sure if >> > >> i >> > >> need >> > >> one for the Iphone or apex and where to get that info. Thanks >> > >> everyone. :-) >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> You received this message becau
Re: Mini or MacBookPro?
Geoff, The new macbook (Unibody) has the same glass trackpad as the MackBook Pro. Just the body on the macbook is plastic. On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Thanks much to all for their suggestions!! Since I don't want to be hooked > to a display it seems that my choices are down to the MacBook vs MacBookPro. > > From Eric's description the track pad sounds like a priority. Is that what > distinguishes a macBook from a pro? As Ricardo points out I could purchase > one separately, but I would think that having it built in without needing to > keep track of another peripheral would be an attractive option. > > Take care. > Geoff > > > - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: Mini or MacBookPro? > > > Hi Jeff, > > As you are a iPhone user I think you would really like the Mac book with > built in multi gesture track pad. Also, I use a 13 inch mac book white case > and it would certainly do all you have mentioned. I just hook up a usb hub > and I'm good to go. I love being able to take it with me when I travel. > Nothing against the mini but if you have only one Mac it might be nice to > have the flexibility of the Mac Book. > > Nice thing is you cant make a wrong choice. Both would work well. > > Eric Caron > > On Aug 7, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi, >> Due to the portability, and trackpad, I'd go for the Pro. >> Sarai Bucciarelli >> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >> >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >>> Either model would work fine for what you want, the only thing is, the mini >>> requires that a monitor be connected, not turned on, just connected. >>> Otherwise voice over will be quite sluggish. If you have a monitor you can >>> connect, I would go with the mini, otherwise the mac book pro would be a >>> good choice. Or you could just get the regular mac book for $999, that >>> would also meet your needs I think. >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 9:37 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >>> Greetings y'all, For the benifit of those who don't hang out on the viPhone list, I recently started assisting Cara Josh and Olivia with the management of this list. Since I don't yet have a Mac until now I only read posts that Google suspected of being spam. This weekend my state is exempting "back to school" items such as computers from sales tax. I've been considering migrating to the Apple world for a while and the 8% savings is tempting. I am a total, hence gaming is not a priority. I anticipate my primary uses would be web surfing, email, playing/editing audio, and hopefully app development. I therefore don't believe that processor speed and memory would make a lot of difference, but perhaps more experienced Mac users can comment. With these assumptions in mind I'm considering either the 13 inch low end MacBookPro (2.4 GHZ processor) for $1,200 or the Mac Mini for $800. Comparing the specs it would appear that $400 would buy me a keyboard, 2GB extra memory, a 13 inch display, fewer USB ports, an extra pound to cary around and 70 GB less disk storage. I have a four year old USB display that I plug into my Dell desktop on those rare occasions when I need sighted assistance. Okay, so at long last, here are my questions. Any input would be greatly appreciated! 1. Considering my anticipated usage are my assumptions about memory and processor speed accurate? If not, any details would be very helpful. 2. Will the Mac Mini work without a display? 3. I already own an Apple wireless keyboard. I assume this would work with the Mini if I unpare it from my iPhone? TIA and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+u
Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Isaac. I have not been able to try with more than one input device at once so sorry, i have no clue how to take care of that issue. But what keyboard were you trying to connect the iphone to? i was thinking about getting a folding bluetooth keyboard (or one of that size whether it folds or not) for my phone but don't know which keyboards work. I want to find one as small as possible so i could keep the phone and tiny keyboard in a small pouch like thing, whatever works... Isaac Obie wrote: > Hello Sonia, > Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! > After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to > figure something out. > One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one > input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a > keyboard. It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to > talk to the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run > across this issue? Thanks. > Isaac > - Original Message - > From: "Sonnia" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > > > > Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its > > one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair > > now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call > > apple or humanware and see what the next step would be > > > > Isaac Obie wrote: > >> Hello Sonia, > >> I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to > >> the > >> iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're > >> not > >> spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why > >> don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store > >> and > >> let them help you with it??? > >> Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the > >> setup > >> process. > >> I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. > >> Isaac > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Sonnia" > >> To: "MacVisionaries" > >> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM > >> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > >> > >> > >> > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > >> > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > >> > > >> > Sonnia wrote: > >> >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ > >> >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing > >> >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and > >> >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on > >> >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: > >> >> > Hi. > >> >> > > >> >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was a > >> >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. > >> >> > > >> >> > Best regards Annie. > >> >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > Hello Annie, > >> >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for > >> >> > > quite a > >> >> > > while. Thanks. > >> >> > > Isaac > >> >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" > >> >> > > > >> >> > > To: > >> >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM > >> >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> Hi. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think > >> >> > >> the > >> >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please write > >> >> > >> again. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. > >> >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported > >> >> > >>> by > >> >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be > >> >> > >>> sure, > >> >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at > >> >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. > >> >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and > >> >> > the > >> >> > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." > >> >> > somehow > >> >> > the > >> >> > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying > >> >> > "searching" > >> >> > but nothing appears > >> >> > > >> >> > Isaac Obie wrote: > >> >> > > Hello Sonia, > >> >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for > >> >> > > user > >> >> > > guide, in > >> >> > > there somewhere it should cover pairing with cellphones. > >> >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we paired > >> >> > > my > >> >> > > braille > >> >>
Re: Magic Jack
Thanks, that will do it. On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:25 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Linda, > > Try force quitting the app. You can find this in the Apple menu in the menu > bar or, press command option escape. > > hth > On Aug 7, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I've been trying everything I could think of to access the log out screen >> for Magic Jack. After pressing command Q, it comes up with a dialog and I >> have to select "yes" to completely close it. I checked the menu but that >> only did the same as command Q. I tried turning tracking off and that >> didn't help. I tried the window chooser but there is only one window and I >> can't get to the yes button. >> >> All suggestions welcomed. >> Linda >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: shortcut for going to next thread directly from message window?
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Re: Iphone and braille note apex
Hello Sonia, The keyboard was one of the wireless keyboards they use in the Apple sore. It worked with the iphone nicely, but not with a combination iphone and braille display. More research is needed on this though. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hello Isaac. I have not been able to try with more than one input device at once so sorry, i have no clue how to take care of that issue. But what keyboard were you trying to connect the iphone to? i was thinking about getting a folding bluetooth keyboard (or one of that size whether it folds or not) for my phone but don't know which keyboards work. I want to find one as small as possible so i could keep the phone and tiny keyboard in a small pouch like thing, whatever works... Isaac Obie wrote: Hello Sonia, Congratulations! That Apex is supposed to behave and connect like charm! After all, this is HumanWare's latest bonus baby! So I guess you'll have to figure something out. One thing I learned today is that the iphone 4 seems only able to handle one input device at a time. I wanted to connect a braille display and a keyboard. It wouldn't do it! The guy helping me said he was going to need to talk to the genius bar guys about this one. Have you or anyone else run across this issue? Thanks. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Well i managed to connect the iphone to another braille display (its > one i rarely use because its clunky but at least i know how to pair > now!) the iphone can not load the apex drivers so i may need to call > apple or humanware and see what the next step would be > > Isaac Obie wrote: >> Hello Sonia, >> I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to >> the >> iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps >> that're >> not >> spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So >> why >> don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store >> and >> let them help you with it??? >> Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the >> setup >> process. >> I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked >> well. >> Isaac >> - Original Message - >> From: "Sonnia" >> To: "MacVisionaries" >> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM >> Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> >> >> > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and >> > bluetooth >> > on and it couldn't find the apex either. >> > >> > Sonnia wrote: >> >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but >> >> nothing >> >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on >> >> Annie Skov Nielsen wrote: >> >> > Hi. >> >> > >> >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it >> >> > was a >> >> > guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> >> > >> >> > Best regards Annie. >> >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Hello Annie, >> >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> >> > > quite a >> >> > > while. Thanks. >> >> > > Isaac >> >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> >> > > >> >> > > To: >> >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> Hi. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> >> > >> the >> >> > >> code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please >> >> > >> write >> >> > >> again. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. >> >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't >> >> > >>> supported >> >> > >>> by >> >> > >>> iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to be >> >> > >>> sure, >> >> > >>> is to check the apple accessibility page at >> >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. >> >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> >> > >>> >> >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note >> >> > and >> >> > the >> >> > services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> >> > somehow >> >> > the >> >> > iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it keeps saying >> >> > "searching" >> >> > but nothing appears >> >> > >> >> > Isaac Obie wrote: >> >> > > Hello Sonia, >> >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, th
RE: Iphone and braille note apex
Hi, Isaac and all. I'm afraid I can't confirm your experience, either with two input sources or with connecting a braille display. I have connected several braille displays to the iPhone, including a Braille Connect 12, and have had no issue connecting the display without sighted assistance. I can recall nothing that was not spoken, and the connection generally went smoothly. Note that I did try the unit through the braille connection method in Voice Over itself, and not through connecting as if one were wishing to use a bluetooth headset. Similarly, I did not have any issue connecting a standard bluetooth keyboard while the braille display was connected. The keyboard I used was, however, not Apple but a no-name brand, it shouldn't make any difference, though, because the bluetooth profile used should be the same. Both the keyboard and the braille display worked for input at the same time. It may be worth connecting a few other keyboards to the unit while a display is connected and seeing how this goes. HTH. Aman -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Isaac Obie Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 5:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex Hello Sonia, I've just come from the Apple Store. I hooked up a brailleconnect12 to the iphine 4. Now it isn't easy to do this. there'are several steps that're not spoken. You really need the expert assistance of the Apple people. So why don't you let it rest a while and plan to go to your local Apple store and let them help you with it??? Just a suggestion. Obviously you're not getting something right in the setup process. I didn't try to do it alone. I had the Apple guys do it! It worked well. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Sonnia" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex > Update: my brother has an iphone and i turned voice over and bluetooth > on and it couldn't find the apex either. > > Sonnia wrote: >> Hi, I can't search for the apex on my iPhone. I go to settings/ >> bluetooth on/searching... and it keeps saying "searching" but nothing >> else comes on the screen, no list of what devices it finds. and >> bluetooth on the apex and iphone are both turned on Annie Skov >> Nielsen wrote: >> > Hi. >> > >> > Normally the code for bluetooth devices is or 1234, so it was >> > a guess. But I think you can find it in the manual for the apex. >> > >> > Best regards Annie. >> > On Aug 7, 2010, at 3:31 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: >> > >> > > Hello Annie, >> > > How did you find this pascode? I've been searching for it for >> > > quite a while. Thanks. >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - From: "Annie Skov Nielsen" >> > > >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 8:46 AM >> > > Subject: Re: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hi. >> > >> >> > >> Yes the apex is supported. >> > >> >> > >> Be sure that bluetooth is turned on on your IPhone. >> > >> >> > >> You will have to search for the apex from your IPhone. I think >> > >> the code is or 1234. IF you need further assistance please >> > >> write again. >> > >> >> > >> Best regards Annie. >> > >> On Aug 7, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> In that case, I'd think that the Braillenotes aren't supported >> > >>> by iOS 4 to be used as braille displays. Best idea though to >> > >>> be sure, is to check the apple accessibility page at >> > >>> http://apple.com/accessibility. >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2010, at 1:37 AM, Sonnia wrote: >> > >>> >> > I found the iphone by searching for it on my braille note and >> > the services offered were things like hands-free and "serial." >> > somehow the iphone can not find any bluetooth devises: it >> > keeps saying "searching" >> > but nothing appears >> > >> > Isaac Obie wrote: >> > > Hello Sonia, >> > > If you look in your Apex tutorial, after Options, then u for >> > > user guide, in there somewhere it should cover pairing with >> > > cellphones. >> > > Are you near an Apple Store? I went to one today and we >> > > paired my braille display with the iphone 4. So look under >> > > options, u for user guide and see what you can find on >> > > pairing with a cellphone >> > > Isaac >> > > - Original Message - >> > > From: "Sonnia" >> > > To: "MacVisionaries" >> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 11:11 PM >> > > Subject: Iphone and braille note apex >> > > >> > > >> > >> Hello. I've tried looking online for some good instructions >> > >> on how to pair the iPhone with my braille note apex but I'm >> > >> still confused. >> > >> Would anyone be able to give a bit of guidance on how to begin? >> > >> I read >> > >> something about needing a bluetooth pin and i am not su
