Re: Louis for mac

[John J. Boyer]

Louis should work with Snow Leopard. Be sure you get the Intel versions 
of the liblouis and liblouisxml libraries. There are already Danish 
tables, though they may not be the latest updated versions. They will 
not work with VoiceOver.

John

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 02:37:08PM -0700, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Can Louis for mac be used on snowleopard.
> 
> I would like to make grade two tables for danish. Does anyone know,
> how to do that.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Scott Howell]

Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it seems to 
be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, but so far no 
luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how you have the 
settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are configured, 
might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to VmWare and get this 
issue figured out. THis will be very important for me when I get a new Macbook 
Pro at work with Fusion installed.

On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi Scott,

I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't seem to 
track right, so I have to move the mouse there with VO-Command-F5, then 
control-click on the machine I want. It's very strange why you're not getting 
any results.

Regards,
Nic


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On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it seems to 
> be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, but so far 
> no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how you have the 
> settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
> Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
> configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
> VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for me 
> when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
> 
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
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>> Facebook Profile
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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Scott Howell]

Hi Nic,

Yes, it is strange and it is the same issue my friend is having as well. Seems 
when trying to route the mouse pointer to the location, VO says there is 
nothing under the mouse. So, that would indicate the mouse pointer is not 
tracking with VO or for some reason cannot enter that table area. I'm going to 
get my wife to look and see if she can explain what is happening and then I 
will have a better idea of what the problem is. Thanks for the info.
On May 1, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't seem 
> to track right, so I have to move the mouse there with VO-Command-F5, then 
> control-click on the machine I want. It's very strange why you're not getting 
> any results.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> 
> 
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it seems 
>> to be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, but so 
>> far no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how you have 
>> the settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
>> Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
>> configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
>> VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for me 
>> when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>> AIM: cincinster
>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>> Facebook Profile
>>> My Twitter
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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

When you try using VO-Command-F5, it should say something like "Virtual machine 
list". Make sure VoiceOver is actually focussed on the item, and that you are 
using the VoiceOver keys to navigate the table. The only thing I can think of 
is that if VoiceOVer doesn't track keyboard focus properly either, this would 
be the fix.

Regards,
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On May 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Hi Nic,
> 
> Yes, it is strange and it is the same issue my friend is having as well. 
> Seems when trying to route the mouse pointer to the location, VO says there 
> is nothing under the mouse. So, that would indicate the mouse pointer is not 
> tracking with VO or for some reason cannot enter that table area. I'm going 
> to get my wife to look and see if she can explain what is happening and then 
> I will have a better idea of what the problem is. Thanks for the info.
> On May 1, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott,
>> 
>> I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't seem 
>> to track right, so I have to move the mouse there with VO-Command-F5, then 
>> control-click on the machine I want. It's very strange why you're not 
>> getting any results.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> 
>> 
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> AIM: cincinster
>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>> Facebook Profile
>> My Twitter
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it seems 
>>> to be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, but so 
>>> far no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how you have 
>>> the settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
>>> Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
>>> configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
>>> VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for me 
>>> when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 AIM: cincinster
 yahoo Messenger: cin368
 Facebook Profile
 My Twitter
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Re: Separator on the dock

[Dyer mattheqw]

Hi,

Have try the hide opsion to see what happens:?  Just a thought.

Matthew



On 4/30/2010 6:21 PM, Linda Adams wrote:

I think it showed up after I installed Skype and or Magicjack.
When I check the short-cut menu (VO-shift-M) I get the following 5 
choices:

Turn hiding on
Turn magnification on
Minimize musing (spelled like it sounded)
Dock preferences ellipses
position on screen sub menu
On that last one, the sub menu offered 3 items, left, right and bottom 
(which was checked)
It doesn't cause me any problems to leave it on the dock but I am 
trying to understand what things are on the Mac when I come across them.

TIA again,
Linda
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I've never seen that before. Do you remember making any changes like 
installing a new program?


Tc

S
On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Linda Adams wrote:


Hello everyone,
For some reason I don't know, a new item has appeared on the dock, 
separator.  I didn't know what it was and when I went to remove it 
from the dock using short cut menu (VO shift M) this was not offered.
Is it related to Skype or Magicjack? What makes it appear? what is 
it?  Should I leave it on the dock? Can I remove it? Nothing happened 
when I selected it.

TIA
Linda

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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Scott Howell]

Nic,

Just curious, but does the table say something like the name of the VM and this 
is s a dimmed table? There is some sort of tracking issue and I've changed all 
the possible settings. I did however use the simulated mouse keys, but even 
when locating the table, it says it is dimmed out, so there may be something 
else going on here.

tnx,
On May 1, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> When you try using VO-Command-F5, it should say something like "Virtual 
> machine list". Make sure VoiceOver is actually focussed on the item, and that 
> you are using the VoiceOver keys to navigate the table. The only thing I can 
> think of is that if VoiceOVer doesn't track keyboard focus properly either, 
> this would be the fix.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Hi Nic,
>> 
>> Yes, it is strange and it is the same issue my friend is having as well. 
>> Seems when trying to route the mouse pointer to the location, VO says there 
>> is nothing under the mouse. So, that would indicate the mouse pointer is not 
>> tracking with VO or for some reason cannot enter that table area. I'm going 
>> to get my wife to look and see if she can explain what is happening and then 
>> I will have a better idea of what the problem is. Thanks for the info.
>> On May 1, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott,
>>> 
>>> I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't seem 
>>> to track right, so I have to move the mouse there with VO-Command-F5, then 
>>> control-click on the machine I want. It's very strange why you're not 
>>> getting any results.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>> AIM: cincinster
>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>> Facebook Profile
>>> My Twitter
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it seems 
 to be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, but so 
 far no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how you have 
 the settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
 Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
 configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
 VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for me 
 when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
 
 On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi Scott,

No, mine just says this: "Virtual machine list, one item selected. Windows 7, 
empty dimmed table row."

That's what I get.

Regards,
Nic

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On May 1, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Nic,
> 
> Just curious, but does the table say something like the name of the VM and 
> this is s a dimmed table? There is some sort of tracking issue and I've 
> changed all the possible settings. I did however use the simulated mouse 
> keys, but even when locating the table, it says it is dimmed out, so there 
> may be something else going on here.
> 
> tnx,
> On May 1, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When you try using VO-Command-F5, it should say something like "Virtual 
>> machine list". Make sure VoiceOver is actually focussed on the item, and 
>> that you are using the VoiceOver keys to navigate the table. The only thing 
>> I can think of is that if VoiceOVer doesn't track keyboard focus properly 
>> either, this would be the fix.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> AIM: cincinster
>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>> Facebook Profile
>> My Twitter
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Nic,
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is strange and it is the same issue my friend is having as well. 
>>> Seems when trying to route the mouse pointer to the location, VO says there 
>>> is nothing under the mouse. So, that would indicate the mouse pointer is 
>>> not tracking with VO or for some reason cannot enter that table area. I'm 
>>> going to get my wife to look and see if she can explain what is happening 
>>> and then I will have a better idea of what the problem is. Thanks for the 
>>> info.
>>> On May 1, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Scott,
 
 I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't 
 seem to track right, so I have to move the mouse there with VO-Command-F5, 
 then control-click on the machine I want. It's very strange why you're not 
 getting any results.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 
 
 Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 AIM: cincinster
 yahoo Messenger: cin368
 Facebook Profile
 My Twitter
 
 On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
 
> Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it 
> seems to be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do this, 
> but so far no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am curious how 
> you have the settings under navigation in the VO utility configured.
> Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
> configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
> VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for me 
> when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
> 
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> AIM: cincinster
>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>> Facebook Profile
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FW: switching from windows, some questions?

[Kerie doyle]

Hey, would really appreciate a reply to this one, 

Thanks again everyone, 

Kerie

 

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From: Kerie doyle [mailto:ker...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 28 April 2010 17:23
To: 'macvisionaries@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: switching from windows, some questions?

 

Hi nic, Carollyn, Chriss and all, 

Thanks so much for all your patience, and answering all my questions, I just
have 2 more, 

I've installed adium and thank god found the set up assistant, and now, I
cant figure out how to read messages! Could someone tell me how to do this,
please? 

I also need to port messages, addresses, and rules over from Microsoft
outlook to the mac. I have Imap enabled  and gmail is working, I'm just
wondering, how can I port messages, addresses, and also rules over? Can I
make rules and create mail boxes from messages that are already in my inbox?


Thanks so much again everyone, 

Kerie 

 

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Subject: Re: switching from windows, some questions?

 

Hi,

 

Adium totally rocks. You should get it. No, everyone should get it. I don't
understand the fact that VoiceOver reads the chat area to the left of the
input field as an "unknown", but when interacting it will say " interact
with HTML content".

 

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On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Carolyn wrote:

 

Chris:

I thank you for filling me in.  I'll look into the possibilities with it.
Again, thanks for cluing in the clueless.

 

Carolyn

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From: Chris Blouch   

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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:33 PM

Subject: Re: switching from windows, some questions?

 

Didn't notice a direct answer to this. Adium is a chat application where you
can connect to another chat user and then type messages back and forth in
real time. There are a number of chat services like AIM or MSN Messenger
which have their own clients but Adium is more universal in that it connects
to numerous different services. Of course you will need to create an account
on each of those to use it with more than one. 

CB

ch...@q.com wrote: 

Hi: 

I was wondering what is Adium?  And, Michael did you mean just the VO keys:
cntl/option, rather than command option?  Thanks.

Carolyn

On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

 

I use a windows live messenger account with adium. It is available onthe
account types.

On 2010-04-25, at 11:02 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

 

Hello Kerie,

While I can't answer your question about instant messaging, perhaps I can
help out with the others.  Like several people I know, I use both Windows as
well as Mac OS Snow Leopard.  Please find my answers below each question.
 

On 2010-04-24 21:05, Kerie doyle wrote: 

Hi all, 

I a very new mac and voice over user, I just had some questions. 

First, about mail. I have not set up mail yet, as I wanted to ask some
advice. I have a Gmail account, and know from reading, that you may set up
Gmail to work in apple mail using either pop or imap, I just wondering, does
it make a difference in terms of voice over, whether I use pop or imap?

I don't think it does, Kerie. While I use IMAP with my Gmail account, I have
never heard anything to the effect that POP wouldn't work.

Next, are the mail boxes which can be created in apple mail meant to be used
as substitutes for folders like those which can be created in outlook using
windows, say for lists? And if I subscribed to many lists, can I, and do I,
need to create rules so the messages from lists go to the mail boxes, and
don just go to my inbox?

Mail lets you create mailboxes into which you can organize materials.  You
can create rules to automatically have specific messages placed in specific
mailboxes or, alternatively, you can manually move them to these mailboxes
from the inbox.

Next, when it comes to instant messaging, can aidium connect to windows
live, or am I best installing windows live for Mac, which I believe, correct
me if I wrong, is available from Microsoft?

This was the question I couldn't answer.

And lastly, for now, is there a way to find out the title of a window, like
in jaws for windows?

Kerie, using the Voice Over keys (Command Option) along with F2 tells you
the title of the window that you are currently in. This command works very
well in the Mail program.

I hope you all won mind me asking what could be considered by some as silly
questions, but like I say, I very new to apple and voice over, so just
thought someone might give me some advice. 

Thanks for any help in advance, 

Kerie

Kerie, the more I use the Mac, the more I like it!  I 

why is everything disabled in fine reader

[erik burggraaf]

Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.

When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to text 
button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the same 
result.
Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
finish button.
Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  I'm 
going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me a 
properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

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resetting mail

[May McDonald]

Ok, I need some help here. How do I get apple mail to reset to it's default 
state? For some strange reason my email is not always being downloaded and it's 
says sometimes that I have more messages than I really do. I've tried deleting 
all the accounts and starting over but when I do that the old information is 
actually still there.

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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eric,

How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've always 
found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always use VueScan 
to capture the images.

Cheers,

Anne

On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
> 
> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to text 
> button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the same 
> result.
> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
> finish button.
> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me a 
> properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
> 
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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Re: resetting mail

[Sarah Alawami]

Hello go to your home dir then libraries and then preferences and I think it is 
called com.apple.mail.plist but I'm not sure about that. Find any references to 
apple mail and get rid of them and restart mail.

If any of the above steps are wrong someone please correct  me as I'm not a 
veteran yet. Lol.

S
On May 1, 2010, at 10:58 AM, May McDonald wrote:

> Ok, I need some help here. How do I get apple mail to reset to it's default 
> state? For some strange reason my email is not always being downloaded and 
> it's says sometimes that I have more messages than I really do. I've tried 
> deleting all the accounts and starting over but when I do that the old 
> information is actually still there.
> 
> Help help help!!
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If you dob';t understand IMAP, you can pay through the nose!

[Michael Busboom]

Hello Friends,

I just returned from the Sight City show in Frankfurt where I had the 
opportunity to check out some really cool technology.  While there, I chose to 
use my mobile broadband service instead of paying for the daily hotel rates for 
a wireless connection in the hotel.  WLAN would have cost me 19 Euros a day.

Here in Austria, I have a pay-as-you-go mobile broadband plan in which I pay 4 
Euros per gigabyte.  Since you pay a lot more when you use the service outside 
your home country, I decided to only check my mail and only read the messages 
that I needed to deal with.  To my way of thinking, I would thus have the 
convenience of being able to check my mail as often as was necessary without 
consuming too much data.  In all truthfulness, I was under the impression that 
with IMAP, I was only downloading message headers and would only download the 
actual message or attachment when I pressed Enter on the message I wanted to 
read.

When I returned to Vienna this morning, I discovered that I had downloaded 37 
MB and had a 90 Euro data bill!

Here's my question:  Is there any way when using IMAP to only download message 
headers and then to only download the messages I really need to read?  If not, 
is there any way for me to use my Mac for checking e-mail outside Austria 
without running up such a large data bill?

One person said that I may have been forcing the Mac mail program to download 
every message because I may have activated some sort of Spam or Junk folder 
filter setting.  The idea was that in order to determine whether a message 
might be spam, it first had to be downloaded in its entirety.

Thanks for any thoughts!

Mike
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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

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I can't even get to preferences.  For whatever the reason, preferences seem 
to be disabled.  I have no idea why.

Take Care

John Panarese

On May 1, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Eric,
> 
> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
> use VueScan to capture the images.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>> 
>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to text 
>> button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the same 
>> result.
>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>> finish button.
>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me a 
>> properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: parelells a complete waist of my time

[Dan Eickmeier]

Wow, that's unfortunate, as Klango is a great service.  In a way I wish they'd 
port it over to the mac side.  
On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> o it's not. We've discussed it witht he devs and it does not appear tht they 
> will be doign this any time soon.
> 
> Tc.
> 
> S
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:29 PM, James & Nash wrote:
> 
>> Lol, 
>> 
>> There are alternatives to most if not all of these you know. But whichever 
>> makes you feel comfortable. And I think that Klingo may be mac compatible.
>> 
>> TC
>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>> On 30 Apr 2010, at 21:40, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah there's a lot I use windows fore.
>>> 
>>> for one thing safary crashes at my colledge blacbord thing and for another 
>>> I'm too used to goldwave and spl studio and sonar and I must have klango. 
>>> *grins*
>>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:55 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>> 
 Why do you want to use Windows? Is there something that you're not able to 
 accomplish with Mac OS X? Just curious, perhaps it is something that the 
 list can help you with.
 
 TC
 James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
 On 30 Apr 2010, at 19:44, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
> I haven't played much with Win7, just XP under fusion. Just after booting 
> it does seem to beat on my hard drive for a few minutes making Jaws 
> stutter, but that clears up shortly. So if you gave 2GB to Win7, how much 
> is left for OSX? 2GB?
> 
> CB
> 
> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> I tried running 7 u8nder 512 mb of ram and it hurt totally. jaws 
>> studered and it sounded owful. Here it is under 2 gigs. Sorry about the 
>> bad quality. I had to plug in another osund card just to here the thing.
>> 
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/vmware%20fudge%20up.mp3
>> 
>> 
>> I ran 32 gigs and had about 2 gigs left for the ram. the windows run 
>> under 2 gigs 1 core. I have a dool core processer. Vocie over was still 
>> fine.
>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> As you discovered VMWare is pretty much the only accessible 
>>> virtualization package on the mac. Sun's VirtualBox doesn't have an 
>>> accessible GUI but it does have a command line interface, so it can 
>>> still be used that way. As far as speed and performance goes, Windows 
>>> beats on the hard drive a good bit so it can take a while to un-sludge 
>>> after starting up, especially if your Mac is trying to access the drive 
>>> at the same time. Also need to check how much RAM you have left. My 
>>> MacBook has 3GB so if I run 1.5GB for VMWare that only leaves 1.5GB for 
>>> the Mac. If the Mac runs out it starts doing 'virtual memory' which 
>>> swaps older chunks of RAM to the hard drive which is orders of 
>>> magnitude slower than real RAM. So, if your Windows virtual machine 
>>> pounds the hard drive and you trigger some virtual memory swapping to 
>>> hard drive you're in for a world of hurt. You might actually be faster 
>>> with that 512MB virtual machine and not triggering memory swapping.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Hello. I decided to try parelells and found it to be inaccessibal with 
 mac voice over. if it is can someone shead some lite on this? this is 
 driving me nuts!
 
 Thaks.
 
 S
 
 
 
 
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Re: parelells a complete waist of my time

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Klango said a little while ago they were starting to make a Klango client for 
Mac. Sadly, I don't know when that'll happen. They made it for Symbian, but I 
will probably never understand why anyone would want it on their phone due to 
the feature-rich environment.

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On May 1, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

> Wow, that's unfortunate, as Klango is a great service.  In a way I wish 
> they'd port it over to the mac side.  
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> o it's not. We've discussed it witht he devs and it does not appear tht they 
>> will be doign this any time soon.
>> 
>> Tc.
>> 
>> S
>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 2:29 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>> 
>>> Lol, 
>>> 
>>> There are alternatives to most if not all of these you know. But whichever 
>>> makes you feel comfortable. And I think that Klingo may be mac compatible.
>>> 
>>> TC
>>> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
>>> On 30 Apr 2010, at 21:40, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
 Yeah there's a lot I use windows fore.
 
 for one thing safary crashes at my colledge blacbord thing and for another 
 I'm too used to goldwave and spl studio and sonar and I must have klango. 
 *grins*
 On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:55 AM, James & Nash wrote:
 
> Why do you want to use Windows? Is there something that you're not able 
> to accomplish with Mac OS X? Just curious, perhaps it is something that 
> the list can help you with.
> 
> TC
> James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny
> On 30 Apr 2010, at 19:44, Chris Blouch wrote:
> 
>> I haven't played much with Win7, just XP under fusion. Just after 
>> booting it does seem to beat on my hard drive for a few minutes making 
>> Jaws stutter, but that clears up shortly. So if you gave 2GB to Win7, 
>> how much is left for OSX? 2GB?
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> I tried running 7 u8nder 512 mb of ram and it hurt totally. jaws 
>>> studered and it sounded owful. Here it is under 2 gigs. Sorry about the 
>>> bad quality. I had to plug in another osund card just to here the thing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1672188/vmware%20fudge%20up.mp3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I ran 32 gigs and had about 2 gigs left for the ram. the windows run 
>>> under 2 gigs 1 core. I have a dool core processer. Vocie over was still 
>>> fine.
>>> On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 As you discovered VMWare is pretty much the only accessible 
 virtualization package on the mac. Sun's VirtualBox doesn't have an 
 accessible GUI but it does have a command line interface, so it can 
 still be used that way. As far as speed and performance goes, Windows 
 beats on the hard drive a good bit so it can take a while to un-sludge 
 after starting up, especially if your Mac is trying to access the 
 drive at the same time. Also need to check how much RAM you have left. 
 My MacBook has 3GB so if I run 1.5GB for VMWare that only leaves 1.5GB 
 for the Mac. If the Mac runs out it starts doing 'virtual memory' 
 which swaps older chunks of RAM to the hard drive which is orders of 
 magnitude slower than real RAM. So, if your Windows virtual machine 
 pounds the hard drive and you trigger some virtual memory swapping to 
 hard drive you're in for a world of hurt. You might actually be faster 
 with that 512MB virtual machine and not triggering memory swapping.
 
 CB
 
 Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 
> Hello. I decided to try parelells and found it to be inaccessibal 
> with mac voice over. if it is can someone shead some lite on this? 
> this is driving me nuts!
> 
> Thaks.
> 
> S
> 
> 
> 
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another mail question

[May McDonald]

Ok, I think I got the problem fixed, at least I hope so, smile. Thanks for that 
advise I never would have found it otherwise.

Now that I have my gmail set up again, how do I get it to put all my gmail 
folders into apple mail? I don't remember how I did that before. I thought by 
telling it to sync the gmail account that it would get the folders but that 
didn't work.

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Re: switching from windows, some questions?

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Sorry for the time. I've been meaning to get to this one. :)

Adium.

When you locate the "Unknown" item in the chat window with someone, you can 
read the messages with the VoiceOver keys. You can also set up chats to read 
automatically using the system voice, or any other voice you select in Adium. 
Just go to preferences (Command-Comma), then interact with the toolbar. Find 
the "Events" button, then choose the event you want and click add.

As for Mail rules, I don't know much about it when it comes to importing. I 
imagine it might be possible, but I just recreated them.

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On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Kerie doyle wrote:

> Hi nic, Carollyn, Chriss and all,
> Thanks so much for all your patience, and answering all my questions, I just 
> have 2 more,
> I’ve installed adium and thank god found the set up assistant, and now, I 
> cant figure out how to read messages! Could someone tell me how to do this, 
> please?
> I also need to port messages, addresses, and rules over from Microsoft 
> outlook to the mac. I have Imap enabled  and gmail is working, I’m just 
> wondering, how can I port messages, addresses, and also rules over? Can I 
> make rules and create mail boxes from messages that are already in my inbox?
> Thanks so much again everyone,
> Kerie
>  
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> Subject: Re: switching from windows, some questions?
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Adium totally rocks. You should get it. No, everyone should get it. I don't 
> understand the fact that VoiceOver reads the chat area to the left of the 
> input field as an "unknown", but when interacting it will say " interact with 
> HTML content".
>  
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
> My Twitter
>  
> On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> 
> Chris:
> I thank you for filling me in.  I'll look into the possibilities with it.  
> Again, thanks for cluing in the clueless.
>  
> Carolyn
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Blouch
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: switching from windows, some questions?
>  
> Didn't notice a direct answer to this. Adium is a chat application where you 
> can connect to another chat user and then type messages back and forth in 
> real time. There are a number of chat services like AIM or MSN Messenger 
> which have their own clients but Adium is more universal in that it connects 
> to numerous different services. Of course you will need to create an account 
> on each of those to use it with more than one. 
> 
> CB
> 
> ch...@q.com wrote:
> Hi:
> I was wondering what is Adium?  And, Michael did you mean just the VO keys: 
> cntl/option, rather than command option?  Thanks.
> Carolyn
> On Apr 25, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
> 
> 
> I use a windows live messenger account with adium. It is available onthe 
> account types.
> On 2010-04-25, at 11:02 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Kerie,
> 
> While I can't answer your question about instant messaging, perhaps I can 
> help out with the others.  Like several people I know, I use both Windows as 
> well as Mac OS Snow Leopard.  Please find my answers below each question.
>  
> 
> On 2010-04-24 21:05, Kerie doyle wrote:
> Hi all,
> I a very new mac and voice over user, I just had some questions.
> First, about mail. I have not set up mail yet, as I wanted to ask some 
> advice. I have a Gmail account, and know from reading, that you may set up 
> Gmail to work in apple mail using either pop or imap, I just wondering, does 
> it make a difference in terms of voice over, whether I use pop or imap?
> I don't think it does, Kerie. While I use IMAP with my Gmail account, I have 
> never heard anything to the effect that POP wouldn't work.
> 
> Next, are the mail boxes which can be created in apple mail meant to be used 
> as substitutes for folders like those which can be created in outlook using 
> windows, say for lists? And if I subscribed to many lists, can I, and do I, 
> need to create rules so the messages from lists go to the mail boxes, and don 
> just go to my inbox?
> Mail lets you create mailboxes into which you can organize materials.  You 
> can create rules to automatically have specific messages placed in specific 
> mailboxes or, alternatively, you can manually move them to these mailboxes 
> from the inbox.
> 
> Next, when it comes to instant messaging, can aidium connect to windows live, 
> or am I best installing windows live for Mac, which I believe, correct me if 
> I wrong, is available from Microsoft?
> This was the quest

Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[erik burggraaf]

Growls!  I've figured it out.  What a pain in the neck.

essentially, fine reader was hanging because the cannon twayne driver wouldn't 
let go of the scan until I delt with an invisible window.  Honestly, maybe I 
can dumb this down with a little tweaking of my Scanner settings, but right now 
I'm not sure whether it's a bigger pain in the ass using fine reader or opening 
up my vm to use k1000.  Neither option particularly appeals at the moment.

As far as the clicking of the scan button, the window I have for my lide90 is 
pretty useable.  I press fn+vo+right arrow to get to the scan icon, which is 
the last object on the window.  Then I place my right thumb on the track pad 
button and my right middle finger on the f5 and press vo+command+f5. Then I 
press the track pad button twice quickly with my thumb.  It's inelegant, but it 
works.

Hope this helps,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2010-05-01, at 1:59 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Eric,
> 
> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
> use VueScan to capture the images.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>> 
>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to text 
>> button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the same 
>> result.
>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>> finish button.
>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me a 
>> properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
The scangear window is *not* inaccessible. If it was, how would i be able to 
use it every time? True you have to use the physical mouse or maybe turn on 
mouse keys to go to the actual scanning button, but for me at least it works 
all the time. Had it been a hit or miss, i'd agreed to some extent, but it 
works for me all the time.
/Krister

1 maj 2010 kl. 19.59 skrev Anne Robertson:

> Hello Eric,
> 
> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
> use VueScan to capture the images.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>> 
>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to text 
>> button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the same 
>> result.
>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>> finish button.
>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me a 
>> properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[erik burggraaf]

Hi Krister.

My roomate uses a lide200 and I thought he was using it OK last year when we 
were scanning in rental applications, but I went to use his for something a 
couple of weeks ago and it was totally useless.  The  canoscan window popped up 
and there was nothing at all in the window.  Not even as I recall a minimize or 
close button.  Just a totally blank window.  Maybe that is the experience Anne 
is having.

Best,

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On 2010-05-01, at 3:01 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> Hi,
> The scangear window is *not* inaccessible. If it was, how would i be able to 
> use it every time? True you have to use the physical mouse or maybe turn on 
> mouse keys to go to the actual scanning button, but for me at least it works 
> all the time. Had it been a hit or miss, i'd agreed to some extent, but it 
> works for me all the time.
> /Krister
> 
> 1 maj 2010 kl. 19.59 skrev Anne Robertson:
> 
>> Hello Eric,
>> 
>> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
>> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
>> use VueScan to capture the images.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>>> 
>>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to 
>>> text button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the 
>>> same result.
>>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>>> finish button.
>>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me 
>>> a properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
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my crash with switch update

[Sarah Alawami]

Well I learned that flip for mac is 
 the culprit. It is a compatibility issue with the latest version. I'm trying 
to find an older version I could downgrade to. I'm looking on version tracker 
now but anywhere else I could look?

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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Eric,

It doesn't bother me that neither of my Canon scanners work directly with 
FineReader since I'm used to using VueScan which produces really good images. 
It's just that a lot of people don't want to be bothered using two apps to do 
the job. VueScan opens FineReader automatically once the scanning is done, so 
for me it's straightforward.

Cheers,

Anne

On May 1, 2010, at 8:54 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

> Growls!  I've figured it out.  What a pain in the neck.
> 
> essentially, fine reader was hanging because the cannon twayne driver 
> wouldn't let go of the scan until I delt with an invisible window.  Honestly, 
> maybe I can dumb this down with a little tweaking of my Scanner settings, but 
> right now I'm not sure whether it's a bigger pain in the ass using fine 
> reader or opening up my vm to use k1000.  Neither option particularly appeals 
> at the moment.
> 
> As far as the clicking of the scan button, the window I have for my lide90 is 
> pretty useable.  I press fn+vo+right arrow to get to the scan icon, which is 
> the last object on the window.  Then I place my right thumb on the track pad 
> button and my right middle finger on the f5 and press vo+command+f5. Then I 
> press the track pad button twice quickly with my thumb.  It's inelegant, but 
> it works.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2010-05-01, at 1:59 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Eric,
>> 
>> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
>> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
>> use VueScan to capture the images.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>>> 
>>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to 
>>> text button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the 
>>> same result.
>>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>>> finish button.
>>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me 
>>> a properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
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>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[Anne Robertson]

Hello John,

Preferences aren't available in FineReader for the Mac as it's the Express 
version. They haven't made a full version for Mac users yet. I hope they do 
that some day.

Cheers,

Anne


On May 1, 2010, at 8:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:

>I can't even get to preferences.  For whatever the reason, preferences 
> seem to be disabled.  I have no idea why.
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John Panarese
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> 
>> Hello Eric,
>> 
>> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
>> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
>> use VueScan to capture the images.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>>> Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
>>> clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
>>> 
>>> When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
>>> I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to 
>>> text button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with the 
>>> same result.
>>> Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
>>> Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
>>> finish button.
>>> Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
>>> button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
>>> I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me 
>>> a properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>>> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: why is everything disabled in fine reader

[erik burggraaf]

I'd rather have one program myself, and I'd definitely rather teach one program 
if it will do the job.

I'm settling in with fine reader now.  It's clunky, but I don't want to read 
novels with it or anything.

Best,

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On 2010-05-01, at 3:15 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Eric,
> 
> It doesn't bother me that neither of my Canon scanners work directly with 
> FineReader since I'm used to using VueScan which produces really good images. 
> It's just that a lot of people don't want to be bothered using two apps to do 
> the job. VueScan opens FineReader automatically once the scanning is done, so 
> for me it's straightforward.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On May 1, 2010, at 8:54 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
> 
>> Growls!  I've figured it out.  What a pain in the neck.
>> 
>> essentially, fine reader was hanging because the cannon twayne driver 
>> wouldn't let go of the scan until I delt with an invisible window.  
>> Honestly, maybe I can dumb this down with a little tweaking of my Scanner 
>> settings, but right now I'm not sure whether it's a bigger pain in the ass 
>> using fine reader or opening up my vm to use k1000.  Neither option 
>> particularly appeals at the moment.
>> 
>> As far as the clicking of the scan button, the window I have for my lide90 
>> is pretty useable.  I press fn+vo+right arrow to get to the scan icon, which 
>> is the last object on the window.  Then I place my right thumb on the track 
>> pad button and my right middle finger on the f5 and press vo+command+f5. 
>> Then I press the track pad button twice quickly with my thumb.  It's 
>> inelegant, but it works.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> APlus certified technician and user support consultant
>> Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2010-05-01, at 1:59 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Eric,
>>> 
>>> How did you manage to click the Scan button for your Canon Lide 90? I've 
>>> always found the ScanGear window totally inaccessible. That's why I always 
>>> use VueScan to capture the images.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> On May 1, 2010, at 7:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>> 
 Alright guys,  I'm fiddling with fine reader.  Now I got this to work at a 
 clients no problem, but here it seems to be giving me a lot of grief.
 
 When it opens it presents me the tasks window.
 I choose to get my immages from cannoscan lide90 and hit the convert to 
 text button.  I've tried this on the convert to pdf button as well with 
 the same result.
 Up comes the cannon twane window and I click the scan button.
 Fine reader presents me with a window saying, "one pages processed with a 
 finish button.
 Unfortunately at this point the finish button, the close 
 button and all the options in the menu bar are disabled.  Is this normal?  
 I'm going to reboot and see if that helps, but I've gottn it to present me 
 a properly ocr'd scan before just on a different setup.
 
 Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 APlus certified technician and user support consultant
 Call toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
 Visit my all new website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
 
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Re: my crash with switch update

[Nicolai Svendsen]

HI,

Are you for real?

I would think an issue like this is universal. It doesn't seem to be the case, 
unfortunately, which probably makes it harder to fix.

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On May 1, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Well I learned that flip for mac is 
> the culprit. It is a compatibility issue with the latest version. I'm trying 
> to find an older version I could downgrade to. I'm looking on version tracker 
> now but anywhere else I could look?
> 
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Re: my crash with switch update

[Kaare Dehard]

you might try http://www.oldversion.com I've not been there for some time, so 
may not have a lot of mac stuff. Worth a try though.
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Re: house full of apples, and question about time capsule

[Thuy]

Regarding the time capsule, does anyone know if there's a way to make
the storage drive visible to the network without having to run the
airport utilitity on each machine? It's just that I want to use it as
a network attached storage device that I can access from my Braille
note takers and other mobile devices. Hope someone can help me out?

Cheers
Thuy


On 01/05/2010, Charlie Doremus  wrote:
> Olivia,
> If we can't help each other, what's the point?
>
> Sent from the iPad I wish I had
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>> Olivia
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Changing voice at login

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

A very recent switcher on the CeciMac list just posted this trick to get 
VoiceOver to speak with any voice you like at login.

When the Login window comes up and Alex starts speaking, hold down VO-Command 
and use the left or right arrow key to find Default Voice, then the down arrow 
to select the voice you want. From now on, it will be your selected voice that 
comes up at Login.

This is particularly useful for those using VO in other languages.

Cheers,

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Firefox on the Mac

[William Windels]

Hello all,
about firefox, someone has posted a bugreport on bugzilla about firefox 3.6.3 
and the missing support for voiceover.
They closed the bug very fast because it was already reported.
So, I don't think that it makes sense to posts more bugreports.
I think , it should be better to count up my bugreport.

The site of bugzilla is not that accessible so, I think, you need sighted 
assistance to do this.

I don't want to say at all that safari and vo are not working well but, some 
websites work bad or not with other browsers than e.g. firebox..

so, here is the link and info:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=560136

--- Comment #1 from Marco Zehe (:MarcoZ)  2010-04-19 
00:35:01 PDT ---
We are aware that Firefox isn't currently accessible on Mac OS X yet.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 336306 ***


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Re: -- Question on Autostarting a VM under Fusion

[Scott Howell]

Nic,

Thanks, that is what I get as well, I just should have had VO put that in the 
message. Well still no joy, but I will continue to poke at this problem from 
time to time and I may stumble over the answer yet.

tnx,
On May 1, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> No, mine just says this: "Virtual machine list, one item selected. Windows 7, 
> empty dimmed table row."
> 
> That's what I get.
> 
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> On May 1, 2010, at 6:31 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Nic,
>> 
>> Just curious, but does the table say something like the name of the VM and 
>> this is s a dimmed table? There is some sort of tracking issue and I've 
>> changed all the possible settings. I did however use the simulated mouse 
>> keys, but even when locating the table, it says it is dimmed out, so there 
>> may be something else going on here.
>> 
>> tnx,
>> On May 1, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When you try using VO-Command-F5, it should say something like "Virtual 
>>> machine list". Make sure VoiceOver is actually focussed on the item, and 
>>> that you are using the VoiceOver keys to navigate the table. The only thing 
>>> I can think of is that if VoiceOVer doesn't track keyboard focus properly 
>>> either, this would be the fix.
>>> 
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>>> On May 1, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Nic,
 
 Yes, it is strange and it is the same issue my friend is having as well. 
 Seems when trying to route the mouse pointer to the location, VO says 
 there is nothing under the mouse. So, that would indicate the mouse 
 pointer is not tracking with VO or for some reason cannot enter that table 
 area. I'm going to get my wife to look and see if she can explain what is 
 happening and then I will have a better idea of what the problem is. 
 Thanks for the info.
 On May 1, 2010, at 6:20 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I really just have everything following one another. The table doesn't 
> seem to track right, so I have to move the mouse there with 
> VO-Command-F5, then control-click on the machine I want. It's very 
> strange why you're not getting any results.
> 
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> On May 1, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Nic, that would be nice if it would really help, but in this case it 
>> seems to be an issue between VO and Fusion. I used to be able to do 
>> this, but so far no luck. I am going to try a few things, but I am 
>> curious how you have the settings under navigation in the VO utility 
>> configured.
>> Thanks for the offer, but knowing how your navigation settings are 
>> configured, might help. Otherwise, I need to find a way to reach out to 
>> VmWare and get this issue figured out. THis will be very important for 
>> me when I get a new Macbook Pro at work with Fusion installed.
>> 
>> On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone require me to upload some audio? Heh.
>>> 
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New to mac

[Edward]

Hello all,

I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like
to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and
web browsing?

Thanks for answering my nubie questions
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Re: New to mac

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible 
yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it 
accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot 
better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and 
Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.

Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about it. 
It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the page 
into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. I don't 
want to rant on how good it is. :)

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On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like
> to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and
> web browsing?
> 
> Thanks for answering my nubie questions
> Edward
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RE: New to mac

[Edward]

Hello 
Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
Also you wrote: 
Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
Please rant, I  would like to have as much info as possible.  Is all of the
mac OS accessible?

Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few
keystrokes?

Thanks
Edward
 

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Subject: Re: New to mac

Hi,

There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible
yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it
accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot
better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork
and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.

Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)

Regards,
Nic
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On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would 
> like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms 
> office and web browsing?
> 
> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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Re: New to mac

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I personally prefer iWorks myself, but that is really only because in Open 
Office, each line is shown as another edit field. I still believe that is the 
case.

As for web browsing, you can jump to certain blocks of text. With the 
introduction of Web spots in Mac OS X 10.6, it can sort the page so that with 
one command, you can jump to the areas of the page that may be of most interest 
to you. Of course, you can also go by elements.

I really have not found any part of Mac OS inaccessible. There might be the 
occasional glitch, but those are quickly fixed or there is an easy workaround.
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On May 2, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Edward wrote:

> Hello 
> Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
> Also you wrote: 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> Please rant, I  would like to have as much info as possible.  Is all of the
> mac OS accessible?
> 
> Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few
> keystrokes?
> 
> Thanks
> Edward
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New to mac
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible
> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it
> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot
> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork
> and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
> 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> Skype: Kvalme
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> 
> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would 
>> like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms 
>> office and web browsing?
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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Re: New to mac

[John J Herzog]

Edward, 
For a great demo of voiceover and the mac's web browser, head over to the blind 
cool tech web site. Then, search for the words mac demo. I don't want to spoil 
it, but one of the really cool things about no buffers is that you get to see 
information change on the page dynamically as it happens. Mike, the presenter 
of the podcast, goes to sirius satellite radio's web site, and shows you how 
you can view information with voiceover as it's changing. The nice thing is you 
don't have to do any virtual buffer refreshing commands or any other of that 
nonsense. I think an audio demo of the mac will do more for you than any of our 
descriptions can. 
If you want me to post the direct link to you, please let me know. But needless 
to say, I am a happy mac convert. 

John 

On May 1, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Edward wrote:

> Hello 
> Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
> Also you wrote: 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> Please rant, I  would like to have as much info as possible.  Is all of the
> mac OS accessible?
> 
> Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with few
> keystrokes?
> 
> Thanks
> Edward
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New to mac
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible
> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it
> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot
> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork
> and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
> 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> Skype: Kvalme
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> 
> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would 
>> like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms 
>> office and web browsing?
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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Re: New to mac

[olivia norman]

I've never understood web spots and how they work. Can someone point me in the 
right direction here?
Thanks, Olivia
On May 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible 
> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it 
> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot 
> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and 
> Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
> 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about 
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the 
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. 
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> 
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> Nic
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> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like
>> to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and
>> web browsing?
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions
>> Edward
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RE: New to mac

[Edward]

Hello 
Yes, please send the link and I will take a listen right away.
Thanks
Edward
 

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John J Herzog
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New to mac

Edward,
For a great demo of voiceover and the mac's web browser, head over to the
blind cool tech web site. Then, search for the words mac demo. I don't want
to spoil it, but one of the really cool things about no buffers is that you
get to see information change on the page dynamically as it happens. Mike,
the presenter of the podcast, goes to sirius satellite radio's web site, and
shows you how you can view information with voiceover as it's changing. The
nice thing is you don't have to do any virtual buffer refreshing commands or
any other of that nonsense. I think an audio demo of the mac will do more
for you than any of our descriptions can. 
If you want me to post the direct link to you, please let me know. But
needless to say, I am a happy mac convert. 

John 

On May 1, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Edward wrote:

> Hello
> Which one, open office, or iworks, do you recommend?
> Also you wrote: 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say 
> about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer 
> to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the
page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :) Please rant, I  would like 
> to have as much info as possible.  Is all of the mac OS accessible?
> 
> Finally, can you easily navigate to a body of text on a webpage with 
> few keystrokes?
> 
> Thanks
> Edward
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 8:45 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New to mac
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully 
> accessible yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most 
> likely making it accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called 
> Text Edit, which is a lot better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. 
> You have suites such as iWork and Open Office, which will probably perform
the tasks you want.
> 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say 
> about it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer 
> to load the page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the
page has loaded.
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
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> 
> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and 
>> would like to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms 
>> of ms office and web browsing?
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions Edward
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Re: New to mac

[Kaare Dehard]

it is good indeed, however, it may take some getting used to. Intuitive 
yeppers, but it took me a bit of time to get through the learning curve. It was 
worth it, but ya got to hang in there while you get used to the different ways 
of navigation.
On 2010-05-01, at 8:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible 
> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it 
> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot 
> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork and 
> Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
> 
> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about 
> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the 
> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. 
> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
> Skype: Kvalme
> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
> AIM: cincinster
> yahoo Messenger: cin368
> Facebook Profile
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> 
> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like
>> to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and
>> web browsing?
>> 
>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions
>> Edward
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Re: New to mac

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
I've been using a Mack for about a month and a half now. It didn't take me very 
long  to get used to, but it is way different than Windows. From what I've 
seen, there's nothing bad about the Mack, I love it. 
Courtney
On 01/05/2010, at 9:36 in the Afternoon, Kaare Dehard wrote:

> it is good indeed, however, it may take some getting used to. Intuitive 
> yeppers, but it took me a bit of time to get through the learning curve. It 
> was worth it, but ya got to hang in there while you get used to the different 
> ways of navigation.
> On 2010-05-01, at 8:45 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There are good alternatives to MS Office. MS Office is not fully accessible 
>> yet, but it is said that it will be written in Cocoa, most likely making it 
>> accessible. The Mac has a basic Text Editor called Text Edit, which is a lot 
>> better than Wordpad and Notepad on Windows. You have suites such as iWork 
>> and Open Office, which will probably perform the tasks you want.
>> 
>> Web browsing is very intuitive. There is simply nothing bad I can say about 
>> it. It works absolutely great, and the fact there is no buffer to load the 
>> page into makes you able to navigate a site even before the page has loaded. 
>> I don't want to rant on how good it is. :)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>> Skype: Kvalme
>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>> AIM: cincinster
>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>> Facebook Profile
>> My Twitter
>> 
>> On May 2, 2010, at 2:36 AM, Edward wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I am strongly considering buying my first Mac in a few weeks and would like
>>> to know if vo gives the user full accessibility in terms of ms office and
>>> web browsing?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for answering my nubie questions
>>> Edward
>>> 
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Re: my crash with switch update

[Sarah Alawami]

I looked it up on the net and that's what the nch team said. There is no fix 
for it at this time and this crash was reported in nov of last year. nov 24 to 
be exact.

Tc

S
On May 1, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> HI,
> 
> Are you for real?
> 
> I would think an issue like this is universal. It doesn't seem to be the 
> case, unfortunately, which probably makes it harder to fix.
> 
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> On May 1, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Well I learned that flip for mac is 
>> the culprit. It is a compatibility issue with the latest version. I'm trying 
>> to find an older version I could downgrade to. I'm looking on version 
>> tracker now but anywhere else I could look?
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> S
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Re: my crash with switch update

[Sarah Alawami]

Yeah maybe i'll give it a try. I'd used it fore windows so searching for mac 
might be a bit tricky.

Tc

S
On May 1, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

> you might try http://www.oldversion.com I've not been there for some time, so 
> may not have a lot of mac stuff. Worth a try though.
> On 2010-05-01, at 3:14 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Well I learned that flip for mac is 
>> the culprit. It is a compatibility issue with the latest version. I'm trying 
>> to find an older version I could downgrade to. I'm looking on version 
>> tracker now but anywhere else I could look?
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> S
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Re: Changing voice at login

[Sarah Alawami]

OH cool! Yeah I new about that trick in the regular os but I did not realise it 
would work at log in.

Take care.

S
On May 1, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> A very recent switcher on the CeciMac list just posted this trick to get 
> VoiceOver to speak with any voice you like at login.
> 
> When the Login window comes up and Alex starts speaking, hold down VO-Command 
> and use the left or right arrow key to find Default Voice, then the down 
> arrow to select the voice you want. From now on, it will be your selected 
> voice that comes up at Login.
> 
> This is particularly useful for those using VO in other languages.
> 
> Cheers,
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