Re: secondary sound card and voice over

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Audio Highjack Pro
http://rogueamoeba.com
does the trick. It can record audio through different sources and applications.

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On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> Has anyone tried adding a secondary video card or some usb or firewire 
> extension which would allow me to separate the voice over channel to another 
> audio output, so that i can record podcasts without vo talking over the music 
> and my own voice?
> 
> I would like to figure this on a laptop. Is there something i can put in the 
> SD slot which would do that, or is it a hardware limitation?
> 
> Thanks, and best
> 
> 
> Yuma Decaux
> 
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Re: secondary sound card and voice over

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Ok, that's a nice one.

But there's something else:

I need to output for example a mixing session from a dj software, and have 
another output, meaning another headphone jack to hear only what voice over 
tells me. I want to do that so when i mix a session, i only hear voice over on 
the earphone, from which i will be building my playlist and pre-cueing my next 
songs.

Is that possible from the system settings, or do i have to include a second 
sound card?

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installing windows7 on my macbook pro

[anouk radix]

Hello everyone, I would like to try windows 7 (either 64 or 32 bit) on my 
macbook pro because this is currently my only computer in use. I have another 
laptop that runs vista, I see an upgrade from vista to 7 home ultimate for 50 
euro. I guess i cant install that upgrade on my macbook pro instead?
I also found a bootcamp application on my hd using spotlight so I guess htat 
cant be too difficult, but are the windows drivers for my macbook pro included 
on the snow leopard cd?
Also, if i reboot with my new dual boot system can I just type in 1 enter for 
os x and 2 enter for windows?
Thanks in advance for any information,
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Re: equalizing sound on macbook pro

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Yuma,

Since the voice that is giving you the most trouble is Bruno, have you tried 
adjusting the pitch for this voice in VoiceOver Utility? You can also change 
the volume of the voice which might help, too.

Cheers,

Anne

On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> I wanted to know what is the best way of equalizing my sound output on the 
> system, as in change bass or treble on my internal speakers?
> 
> I don't know if you guys have this problem, but i get some odd sounds when 
> typing on voice over in general. Especially with the infovox french voices, 
> bruno in this case, which is a booming bass plenty voice.
> 
> I wonder if its affecting the integrity of my speakers, as they seem to hit 
> the magnets too hard or something.
> 
> Thanks, and best
> 
> 
> Yuma Decaux
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: secondary sound card and voice over

[hank smith]

also what dj software you using?
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From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: secondary sound card and voice over



Ok, that's a nice one.

But there's something else:

I need to output for example a mixing session from a dj software, and have 
another output, meaning another headphone jack to hear only what voice over 
tells me. I want to do that so when i mix a session, i only hear voice over 
on the earphone, from which i will be building my playlist and pre-cueing my 
next songs.

Is that possible from the system settings, or do i have to include a second 
sound card?

Thanks, and best





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Re: secondary sound card and voice over

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

I use dj from algoriddim


On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:38 PM, hank smith wrote:

> 
> also what dj software you using?
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: secondary sound card and voice over
> 
> 
> 
> Ok, that's a nice one.
> 
> But there's something else:
> 
> I need to output for example a mixing session from a dj software, and have 
> another output, meaning another headphone jack to hear only what voice over 
> tells me. I want to do that so when i mix a session, i only hear voice over 
> on the earphone, from which i will be building my playlist and pre-cueing my 
> next songs.
> 
> Is that possible from the system settings, or do i have to include a second 
> sound card?
> 
> Thanks, and best
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 

Yuma Decaux

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Re: equalizing sound on macbook pro

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi,

the pitch doesn't change on infovox voices. Also, it happens to all the voices, 
including alex. And i am not having hearing problems either.

The problem appears wehn i type, and not all the time

Thanks, and best




On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> 
> Hello Yuma,
> 
> Since the voice that is giving you the most trouble is Bruno, have you tried 
> adjusting the pitch for this voice in VoiceOver Utility? You can also change 
> the volume of the voice which might help, too.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Gang,
>> 
>> I wanted to know what is the best way of equalizing my sound output on the 
>> system, as in change bass or treble on my internal speakers?
>> 
>> I don't know if you guys have this problem, but i get some odd sounds when 
>> typing on voice over in general. Especially with the infovox french voices, 
>> bruno in this case, which is a booming bass plenty voice.
>> 
>> I wonder if its affecting the integrity of my speakers, as they seem to hit 
>> the magnets too hard or something.
>> 
>> Thanks, and best
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Decaux
>> 
>> Light has no value without darkness
>> Skype: shainobi1
>> twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7
>> Tel: +85513623378
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> jamy...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> > 

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fission

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi everyone,

I am looking at rogue amoeba's site, and they offer a bundle of audio hijack 
pro and a sound editing software called fission.

Is this last software accessible?


Thanks, and best


Yuma Decaux

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I just discovered the other sl voices

[anouk radix]

Hello, I was playing with the voices that came with sl yesterday and it was 
real fun! I especially like pipe organ and zarvox (the campiest robot voice I 
ever heard) or boing campy computer voice.
I also finally got into the commanders and they are S convenient.
Greetings, Anouk 
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problems deleting text from file

[anouk radix]

Hello, I needed to get liecense information from an email message because its 
long and I need to paste it into an installation window. So i save the mail as 
an rtf file and then open textedit to highlight (shift-down arrow) and cut 
(command-x) the text away that I dont need. BUT after the highlighting of the 
first few lines (its a long mail) voicover stops speaking, i do another few 
lines but now voicover says only top and bottom of document so it seems that 
the document is empty.
Is this buggy or does it work in other programs? This is rather irritating.
Greetings, Anouk
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frustrating program installation

[anouk radix]

Hi everyone, ok i bought two cereproc voices. They have a license key system 
that you just cant type manually, its like 5 lines of text and random numbers. 
I was finally able to copy that textblock out of the email but now I cant seem 
to get it pasted into the license checker. I am standing on the text edit field 
and I know the text is all contained in the clipboard but command-v just wont 
work and I cant get the text to where I want it to so ergo I cant get the 
program installed.
Any help would be appreciated because I thought pasting stuff worked through 
the whole of mac os x.
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vo-bs posts

[Chris Hofstader]

Hi,

To post to vo-bs, you need to subscribe.  Else, I get messages like the one 
below and have to deal with each message on its own.

Thanks, your grumpy bs'er

cdh

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Re: frustrating program installation

[william lomas]

ok here's what i did.
Do a v.o shift space to "click" the mouse in the textbox, then command v

On 12 Nov 2009, at 10:31, anouk radix wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, ok i bought two cereproc voices. They have a license  
> key system that you just cant type manually, its like 5 lines of  
> text and random numbers. I was finally able to copy that textblock  
> out of the email but now I cant seem to get it pasted into the  
> license checker. I am standing on the text edit field and I know the  
> text is all contained in the clipboard but command-v just wont work  
> and I cant get the text to where I want it to so ergo I cant get the  
> program installed.
> Any help would be appreciated because I thought pasting stuff worked  
> through the whole of mac os x.
> Greetings, Anouk
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problem persists

[anouk radix]

Hello, I just tried selecting and cutting text in pages and here I get the seem 
results, the first few lines get announced  till a hard return in the text I 
think and then if i cut the whole message is deleted.
Greetings, Anouk
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Re: frustrating program installation

[anouk radix]

Thanks william that worked for sarah. I bought William at the seem time but 
they did not include license info for him so I will have to contact them.
Greetings, Anouk
On Nov 12, 2009, at 11:46 AM, william lomas wrote:

> 
> ok here's what i did.
> Do a v.o shift space to "click" the mouse in the textbox, then command v
> 
> On 12 Nov 2009, at 10:31, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi everyone, ok i bought two cereproc voices. They have a license  
>> key system that you just cant type manually, its like 5 lines of  
>> text and random numbers. I was finally able to copy that textblock  
>> out of the email but now I cant seem to get it pasted into the  
>> license checker. I am standing on the text edit field and I know the  
>> text is all contained in the clipboard but command-v just wont work  
>> and I cant get the text to where I want it to so ergo I cant get the  
>> program installed.
>> Any help would be appreciated because I thought pasting stuff worked  
>> through the whole of mac os x.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>>> 
> 
> 
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Re: problem persists

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

if you select all text and cut, it will be deleted. That's what cutting is 
about. What are you trying to accomplish? I'm afraid I don't follow.

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> 
> Hello, I just tried selecting and cutting text in pages and here I get the 
> seem results, the first few lines get announced  till a hard return in the 
> text I think and then if i cut the whole message is deleted.
> Greetings, Anouk
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Re: anyone else having trouble with ebay and safari?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Yep, same here in trying to go to ebay.ca here  in Canada.  
On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:28 AM, John J Herzog wrote:

> 
> Hi all, 
> Lately, whenever I go to www.ebay.com safari immediately crashes. Is anybody 
> else experiencing this? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John 
> 
> 
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Re: adem, and msn, ipodtuch?

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Maurice, Adium is definitely very useable.  If you interact with the area 
that Voiceover is reporting as an unknown in the chat window, ou hsould be able 
to read your chats just fine.
On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:

> 
> HI ALL I AM TRAYING TO USE ADEM WITH MY FREND WHO IS A WINDOWS USER AND I 
> CAN'T READ THE CHAT WINDOW HOW USEE THIS APP, WHIN USING VO? TWO I HAVE A 
> IPOD TUCH AND I AM TRAYING TO FIGER OUT JUST HOW TO GO DOWN THE LIST OF 
> ALBEMS, AND HOW TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE EMAIL'S THAT ARE IN THE LEST.ENY 
> THOUGHTS, ON HOW TO DUE THIS? MAURICE HAM CALL SINE KD0IKO.
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Re: problem persists

[anouk radix]

Hello, well I did not select all the text, i was highlighting per line but 
after a few lines voicover stopped announcing them. Anyway I fixed it by 
copying the text I needed out of the document and that seems to work.
Greetings, Anouk
On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> if you select all text and cut, it will be deleted. That's what cutting is 
> about. What are you trying to accomplish? I'm afraid I don't follow.
> 
> Regards,
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> On Nov 12, 2009, at 11:13 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello, I just tried selecting and cutting text in pages and here I get the 
>> seem results, the first few lines get announced  till a hard return in the 
>> text I think and then if i cut the whole message is deleted.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>>> 
> 
> 
> > 


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Re: anyone else having trouble with ebay and safari?

[Howard Dupuis]

Hi John,
I was having the very same (and very annoying) problem, but found a
way around by bookmarking the following:
http://hub.shop.ebay.com/
This seems to work just fine. The other, though, still crashes Safari.
-- Howard

John J Herzog wrote:
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> Lately, whenever I go to www.ebay.com safari immediately crashes. Is anybody 
> else experiencing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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Re: fission

[Thomas McMahan]

Seems to be at least quite accessible.  Better than audacity was for  
me at least.



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BBC iPlayer

[Anne Robertson]

Hello everyone,

I don't know whether this will be of any help to anyone, but I've been playing 
with the BBC iPlayer (radio only as I'm blocked from TV, being in France).

If you use the Text Only pages, after clicking on Listen Now for the programme 
you've selected, wait until the page loads and then click on the Graphic 
Version of the page, and after loading that page, the programme will start 
playing.

You still don't get access to the controls, but at least it plays the programme.

Cheers,

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Re: equalizing sound on macbook pro

[James & Nash]

You might like to ry Levelator. It is a darg and drop app, but drag and drop 
is possible with VO.

Oh and Levelator is a free app.
TC

James
- Original Message - 
From: "Yuma Antoine Decaux" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: equalizing sound on macbook pro



Hi,

the pitch doesn't change on infovox voices. Also, it happens to all the 
voices, including alex. And i am not having hearing problems either.

The problem appears wehn i type, and not all the time

Thanks, and best




On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

>
> Hello Yuma,
>
> Since the voice that is giving you the most trouble is Bruno, have you 
> tried adjusting the pitch for this voice in VoiceOver Utility? You can 
> also change the volume of the voice which might help, too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:14 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> I wanted to know what is the best way of equalizing my sound output on 
>> the system, as in change bass or treble on my internal speakers?
>>
>> I don't know if you guys have this problem, but i get some odd sounds 
>> when typing on voice over in general. Especially with the infovox french 
>> voices, bruno in this case, which is a booming bass plenty voice.
>>
>> I wonder if its affecting the integrity of my speakers, as they seem to 
>> hit the magnets too hard or something.
>>
>> Thanks, and best
>>
>>
>> Yuma Decaux
>>
>> Light has no value without darkness
>> Skype: shainobi1
>> twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7
>> Tel: +85513623378
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> jamy...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >

Yuma Decaux

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Re: BBC iPlayer

[James & Nash]

That's really good to know thanks Anne
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Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: BBC iPlayer



Hello everyone,

I don't know whether this will be of any help to anyone, but I've been 
playing with the BBC iPlayer (radio only as I'm blocked from TV, being in 
France).

If you use the Text Only pages, after clicking on Listen Now for the 
programme you've selected, wait until the page loads and then click on the 
Graphic Version of the page, and after loading that page, the programme will 
start playing.

You still don't get access to the controls, but at least it plays the 
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Explaination of Trash for Christina

[James & Nash]

Hi Christina,,

Perhaps this explaination will help clear things up for you a bit. Bare in 
mind though that this is my own interpretation of how it works and so others 
on this list may provide better information for you.

The Mac sees the Trash as akin to a virtual drive - a Disk Image. So once 
you send files to the Trash, they are there waiting to be deleted. However, 
if you then search for those files (or in your case add any), Mac can still 
see, access and use those files until they are deleted.

I may be wrong, but this is my interpretation of how it works. I hope it 
makes sense  to you, and I completely understand why you became confused.

HTH
TC

James


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:17 AM
Subject: Trash questions


>
> Hello Listers,
>
> I'm very confused and frustrated about file management on the mac.  I
> deleted some files off of my sd card and I could not get the space
> remaining on the sd card to change and I therefore could not add any
> files to the sd card.  The only thing that worked was to empty the
> trash.  I would appreciate some explanation to this.
>
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
>
> > 


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Re: Itunes and Tiger

[Rafael Bejarano]

I share your frustration. What about reinstalling the previous version  
of iTunes? Does anyone know how that might be done?

Rafael
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Christopher Gilland wrote:

>
> OK, you know, I too use Tiger actually.  The search filed I dono, I  
> can't
> get to it either.  A friend suggested doing vo+J to sump from the  
> sources
> outline, the search field, and the songs table.  I've not tried it  
> yet, but
> supposedly, he thought that may work.  As for the store, apparently  
> it'll
> say something like store area, or something, I don't remember, Mike,  
> can you
> give him and I both a hand here?  Apparently, you gotta interact  
> with that
> area then go from there.  I agree: Apple really dropped a bombshell  
> with
> this release.  I hate the thing, but let's just hope and pray there  
> is still
> hope.  Worst case, there is always vlc, but good luck if you got an  
> IPhone,
> or an IPod.  Frankly, if Apple wants to be that stubborn to make  
> iTunes
> inaccessible, when it was so darn good in v8, I'm sorry, but, maybe  
> I'm
> jumpin the gun here, and someone shut me up if i am, but, if it wasn't
> broken, then excuse my language but then why the hell did they try  
> to fix
> it!  It r'r'really! ticks me off!  Especially being I have no way to  
> afford
> a new Mac with Leopard, and every darn resource I've gone through  
> comes up
> cold.  Frankly, I'm almost ready to give up on trying to get another  
> system.
> It undoubtedly just wasn't meant to be, but anyway, enough  
> complainig.  No
> one wants to hear that.  Try those suggestions, and let me know if  
> they
> prove to work.  Mingwhile I'll play with my tiger machine as well,  
> and post
> to the list if I find out a work around.
>
> Chris.
>
>
> ? ? t?? Te?? µe sa?.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bejarano, Rafael P." 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:30 PM
> Subject: Itunes and Tiger
>
>
>
> Hello, all,
>
> I am having trouble with the newest version of Itunes, which I have
> installed on an iBook g4 running Tiger. When I go to the Itunes  
> store, I
> can't find the search field or the store pages. Is anyone else on  
> this list
> using Itunes with this hardware and software configuration, and if  
> so, have
> you experienced similar problems? can anyone else suggest why I  
> might be
> having such troubles?
>
> Cordially,
> Rafael Bejarano
>
>
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Re: fission

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

Yes, definitely. The only thing that is not currently accessible in any Rogue 
Amoeba product is the "Effects" area. You can add effects, but when you'd like 
to add more than one it seems impossible. Of course, if anyone has a workaround 
to this, I'd be happy to hear it. Clicking with the mouse in the empty scroll 
area opens the menu through which you can add a single effect. After you 
perform this step, you can hit the delete key and it will clear the effect if 
you have focus in the yet empty scroll area. I can't seem to add more than one.

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On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote:

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> Seems to be at least quite accessible.  Better than audacity was for  
> me at least.
> 
> 
> 
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sharing folder

[May McDonald]

Hi everyone.  I know there are some members that are sharing their folders 
between windows and the mac.  Can you please contact me off list and tell me 
how to go about doing the same.  I only want to share music between the two not 
everything if that's possible, thanks.

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Help with partitioning a external disc

[Brett Campbell]

Can someone talk me through partitioning an external My Book drive?  When I 
select the drive in disc utility, and select the partition button, and select 2 
partitions in the volume scheme popup button, everything is dim.  I'd really 
appreciate any guidance.


Thanks,

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Re: Explaination of Trash for Christina

[Christina]

Thanks everyone.  :)  H, is there a way to just delete the items  
out of trash that I removed from the SD card?

   I do realize that I can use my stream to delete files but it leaves  
an empty folder behind.  I'm not running the latest version of the  
firmware for the stream.  I just haven't done it since I was not  
having any issues with the current firmware I have and was not aware  
of any benefits of the latest upgrade.  :)

Thanks,
Christina
On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:54 AM, James & Nash wrote:

>
> Hi Christina,,
>
> Perhaps this explaination will help clear things up for you a bit.  
> Bare in
> mind though that this is my own interpretation of how it works and  
> so others
> on this list may provide better information for you.
>
> The Mac sees the Trash as akin to a virtual drive - a Disk Image. So  
> once
> you send files to the Trash, they are there waiting to be deleted.  
> However,
> if you then search for those files (or in your case add any), Mac  
> can still
> see, access and use those files until they are deleted.
>
> I may be wrong, but this is my interpretation of how it works. I  
> hope it
> makes sense  to you, and I completely understand why you became  
> confused.
>
> HTH
> TC
>
> James
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christina" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:17 AM
> Subject: Trash questions
>
>
>>
>> Hello Listers,
>>
>> I'm very confused and frustrated about file management on the mac.  I
>> deleted some files off of my sd card and I could not get the space
>> remaining on the sd card to change and I therefore could not add any
>> files to the sd card.  The only thing that worked was to empty the
>> trash.  I would appreciate some explanation to this.
>>
>> Thanks so much,
>> Christina
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Eleni Vamvakari]

*Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.

Thanks,
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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi, I'd say try that external keyboard when you can find it.  On Thu, 
12 Nov 2009 14:43:01 -0500, Eleni Vamvakari wrote:
> 
> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eleni
> 
> > 

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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[James & Nash]

Hi Eleni,

Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What 
version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was it in 
2008?

TC

James
- Original Message - 
From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP


>
> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>
> Thanks,
> Eleni
>
> > 


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Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[Christina]

>
> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has  
> upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Christina


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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[James & Nash]

Hi Christina, 

Yes it is legitimate bu I've not updated yet as I'm not at my Mac. 

TC 

James 
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I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has 
upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.

Thanks,
Christina



  

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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[Charlie Doremus]

Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything interesting
will report.
Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves
JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories less
painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for what
it’s worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina  wrote:

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> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has
> upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
>
> Thanks,
> Christina
>
>
>
> >
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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[Chris Blouch]

Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my 
MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript 
execution speed.

CB

Charlie Doremus wrote:
> Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything 
> interesting will report. 
> Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves 
> JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser 
> histories less painful, and enhances the stability of third-party 
> plug-ins and, for what it’s worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina  > wrote:
>
>>
>> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone
>> has upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I haven't exactly noticed anything that's worth noting in my case. It seems a 
bit faster to me, and now, Safari doesn't seem to crash as much. Although, it 
still crashes every time I enter a table on a certain forum. I did report it, 
but unfortunately it hasn't changed. Hopefully it will. It definitely seems 
more stable in my case, for sure.

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On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:49 PM, James & Nash wrote:

> Hi Christina,
>  
> Yes it is legitimate bu I've not updated yet as I'm not at my Mac.
>  
> TC
>  
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: Christina
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:45 PM
> Subject: Safari 4.0.4 update released???
> 
>> 
>> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has upgraded 
>> and noticed any changes or improvements.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
> 
> 
> 
> > 


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Re: anyone else having trouble with ebay and safari?

[Chris Blouch]

Just verified that this still happens with Safari 4.0.4 and voiceover 
running.

CB

Howard Dupuis wrote:
> Hi John,
> I was having the very same (and very annoying) problem, but found a
> way around by bookmarking the following:
> http://hub.shop.ebay.com/
> This seems to work just fine. The other, though, still crashes Safari.
> -- Howard
>
> John J Herzog wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>> Lately, whenever I go to www.ebay.com safari immediately crashes. Is anybody 
>> else experiencing this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>> 
> >
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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Tiffany D]

I'm responding with my old address, where I get full messages, so I
won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in digest mode
like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the keyboard.  I
got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever the version
was before the last automatic update.  I never really took notice,
sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel free to offer
them.

Thanks,
Eleni

On 12/11/2009, James & Nash  wrote:
>
> Hi Eleni,
>
> Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What
> version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was it in
> 2008?
>
> TC
>
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
> Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP
>
>
>>
>> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
>> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
>> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
>> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
>> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
>> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
>> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
>> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
>> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
>> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
>> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
>> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
>> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
>> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
>> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
>> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
>> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
>> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eleni
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[James & Nash]

What is JavaScript? I've looked it up on Wikipedia, but I've found it too 
technical. Thanks for any explainations. 

TC
James 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 PM
  Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???


  Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my 
MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript execution 
speed.

  CB

  Charlie Doremus wrote: 
Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything 
interesting will report.  
Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves 
JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories less 
painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for what it's 
worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).


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I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has 
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Re: anyone else having trouble with ebay and safari?

[Howard Dupuis]

Did you try the link I posted right above your note? Works for me
every time.

Chris Blouch wrote:
> Just verified that this still happens with Safari 4.0.4 and voiceover
> running.
>
> CB
>
> Howard Dupuis wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > I was having the very same (and very annoying) problem, but found a
> > way around by bookmarking the following:
> > http://hub.shop.ebay.com/
> > This seems to work just fine. The other, though, still crashes Safari.
> > -- Howard
> >
> > John J Herzog wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> Lately, whenever I go to www.ebay.com safari immediately crashes. Is 
> >> anybody else experiencing this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> > >
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voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[anouk radix]

Hello, Voicover has restarted a lot more often after installing william and 
sometimes I get weird plops and osunds in the text while reading. Once william 
started reading a string of text and numbers that was not in the text that I 
was reading and even stopping and restarting voicover could not stop him 
talking. All in all from the short time I have used william he seems rather 
unstable on the mac platform.
Greetings, Anouk
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Re: voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi,

I think that applies to both platforms. William wasn't working that well with 
my Windows machine, and though he sounded fairly decent, he tended to spell 
simple things as "install". As for your experience, it sounds absolutely 
terrifying. I might try it one day to see for myself, simply to find out if my 
William behaves the same way. It might be a brilliant idea to send some 
feedback to Cereproc about this if there is no other possible way, somehow, to 
correct the problem.

Thanks for the insight into how it worked on the Mac.

Regards,
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On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:00 AM, anouk radix wrote:

> 
> Hello, Voicover has restarted a lot more often after installing william and 
> sometimes I get weird plops and osunds in the text while reading. Once 
> william started reading a string of text and numbers that was not in the text 
> that I was reading and even stopping and restarting voicover could not stop 
> him talking. All in all from the short time I have used william he seems 
> rather unstable on the mac platform.
> Greetings, Anouk
> > 


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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[Donal Fitzpatrick]

Hi James,

OK I'm not sure how much you know of internet markup, so forgive me if I'm 
being too simplistic.

Way back in about 1995 what we know of as the internet was still pretty much in 
its infancy.  At that stage, documents were rudimentary and the things that 
could be displayed on the web were fairly primitive.  At this time browsers 
such as the text-based Lynx, and the graphically oriented Mosaic and Netscape 
were dominant.

Documents were static.  They were prepared using HTML, and the level of 
interactivity was minimal.  Along came Netscape (the company) and decided it 
would be nice to have a degree of interactivity on the web.  So they developed 
Javascript.

In essence, javascript sits in the header portion of an HTML document and 
enables client-side scripts to be embedded into web pages.  This differs from 
PHP (another scripting language) in that PHP runs on the server and delivers 
pages to the browser.

OK let's give you an example.  Let's suppose you have a form on a web page that 
requires a certain type of input; let's say for arguments sake a telephone 
number.  So I as a user enter abcdef7 instead of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.  I click the 
submit button.  If the developer has written the appropriate javascript code, 
it will check the input of the form before it is sent to the server for 
processing.  If everything is in order, (which in our previous example it is 
not) it will send the data to the server for storage or whatever needs to be 
done.  However, as there are errors in the data in the telephone number field 
it can either pop up a message box informing us of the error, or perform some 
other action.

Javascript can also handle various events like mouse clicks, keyboard events, 
and loads of other things to make the web experience more dynamic.  However, in 
my opinion, badly written Javascript has been responsible for more inaccessible 
or unusable webpages than anything else over the years, and yep I'm including 
flash in there as well.  

In essence, Javascript, therefore, is a client-side (or browser side) way of 
adding dynamism or interactivity to web pages.

I'm giving a lecture to some first year undergrads on this stuff in a few 
weeks, so if you do want more info just let me know and I'll send you a link to 
the notes.

Cheers,

Donal
On 12 Nov 2009, at 22:08, James & Nash wrote:

> What is JavaScript? I've looked it up on Wikipedia, but I've found it too 
> technical. Thanks for any explainations.
>  
> TC
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Blouch
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???
> 
> Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my 
> MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript execution 
> speed.
> 
> CB
> 
> Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything interesting 
>> will report. 
>> Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves 
>> JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories less 
>> painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for what 
>> it’s worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has 
>>> upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Tiffany D]

Okay.  I got my external keyboard and it works fine.  whatever this
is, it seems to be a hardware issue.  I wonder if it'll help to
upgrade to the latest version of Leopard.  I'm gonna do an update and
see what happens.  I had this happen last time and they put on a new
keyboard, so it should be doing this.  Also, last time, it was just a
few keys.  Now, it seems to be the whole keyboard.  Does anyone know
of a compact flash card reader that's compatible with the Mac?  I was
planning on getting some type II cards and an adapter in any case to
use with my Windows and DOS machines, but I might have to do this alot
sooner than I thought.

Thanks,
Eleni

On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
> I'm responding with my old address, where I get full messages, so I
> won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in digest mode
> like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the keyboard.  I
> got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever the version
> was before the last automatic update.  I never really took notice,
> sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel free to offer
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> Eleni
>
> On 12/11/2009, James & Nash  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eleni,
>>
>> Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What
>> version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was it
>> in
>> 2008?
>>
>> TC
>>
>> James
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP
>>
>>
>>>
>>> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
>>> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
>>> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
>>> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
>>> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
>>> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
>>> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
>>> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
>>> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
>>> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
>>> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
>>> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
>>> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
>>> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
>>> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
>>> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
>>> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
>>> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eleni
>>>
>>> >
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
>

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Re: sound gone

[Scott Howell]

There is an article addressing this issue. My advice is to send note to Apple 
on this and I can't recall where I read the article, but you may go to Apple's 
site and download the combo updater, which apparently has worked for some.
On Nov 12, 2009, at 1:36 AM, william lomas wrote:

> 
>   hi all, with 10.6.2, my sound had completely disappeared when i  
> installed it. Has anyone on a macbook 2.4 core 2 duo machine from 2008  
> noted this issue?
> Now where can I get 6.1 as I had to reinstall Snowleopard from my DVD
> 
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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[peter apgar]

could you post the notes.  that was a great description.  Thanks,

Pete
On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:

> 
> Hi James,
> 
> OK I'm not sure how much you know of internet markup, so forgive me if I'm 
> being too simplistic.
> 
> Way back in about 1995 what we know of as the internet was still pretty much 
> in its infancy.  At that stage, documents were rudimentary and the things 
> that could be displayed on the web were fairly primitive.  At this time 
> browsers such as the text-based Lynx, and the graphically oriented Mosaic and 
> Netscape were dominant.
> 
> Documents were static.  They were prepared using HTML, and the level of 
> interactivity was minimal.  Along came Netscape (the company) and decided it 
> would be nice to have a degree of interactivity on the web.  So they 
> developed Javascript.
> 
> In essence, javascript sits in the header portion of an HTML document and 
> enables client-side scripts to be embedded into web pages.  This differs from 
> PHP (another scripting language) in that PHP runs on the server and delivers 
> pages to the browser.
> 
> OK let's give you an example.  Let's suppose you have a form on a web page 
> that requires a certain type of input; let's say for arguments sake a 
> telephone number.  So I as a user enter abcdef7 instead of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.  I 
> click the submit button.  If the developer has written the appropriate 
> javascript code, it will check the input of the form before it is sent to the 
> server for processing.  If everything is in order, (which in our previous 
> example it is not) it will send the data to the server for storage or 
> whatever needs to be done.  However, as there are errors in the data in the 
> telephone number field it can either pop up a message box informing us of the 
> error, or perform some other action.
> 
> Javascript can also handle various events like mouse clicks, keyboard events, 
> and loads of other things to make the web experience more dynamic.  However, 
> in my opinion, badly written Javascript has been responsible for more 
> inaccessible or unusable webpages than anything else over the years, and yep 
> I'm including flash in there as well.  
> 
> In essence, Javascript, therefore, is a client-side (or browser side) way of 
> adding dynamism or interactivity to web pages.
> 
> I'm giving a lecture to some first year undergrads on this stuff in a few 
> weeks, so if you do want more info just let me know and I'll send you a link 
> to the notes.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Donal
> On 12 Nov 2009, at 22:08, James & Nash wrote:
> 
>> What is JavaScript? I've looked it up on Wikipedia, but I've found it too 
>> technical. Thanks for any explainations.
>> 
>> TC
>> James
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Chris Blouch
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???
>> 
>> Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my 
>> MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript execution 
>> speed.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> Charlie Doremus wrote:
>>> Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything 
>>> interesting will report. 
>>> Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves 
>>> JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories 
>>> less painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for 
>>> what it’s worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina  wrote:
 
 I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has 
 upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
 
 Thanks,
 Christina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 


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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Scott Howell]

Most any card reader will work fine on the Mac.
On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Tiffany D wrote:

> 
> Okay.  I got my external keyboard and it works fine.  whatever this
> is, it seems to be a hardware issue.  I wonder if it'll help to
> upgrade to the latest version of Leopard.  I'm gonna do an update and
> see what happens.  I had this happen last time and they put on a new
> keyboard, so it should be doing this.  Also, last time, it was just a
> few keys.  Now, it seems to be the whole keyboard.  Does anyone know
> of a compact flash card reader that's compatible with the Mac?  I was
> planning on getting some type II cards and an adapter in any case to
> use with my Windows and DOS machines, but I might have to do this alot
> sooner than I thought.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eleni
> 
> On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
>> I'm responding with my old address, where I get full messages, so I
>> won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in digest mode
>> like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the keyboard.  I
>> got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever the version
>> was before the last automatic update.  I never really took notice,
>> sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel free to offer
>> them.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eleni
>> 
>> On 12/11/2009, James & Nash  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eleni,
>>> 
>>> Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What
>>> version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was it
>>> in
>>> 2008?
>>> 
>>> TC
>>> 
>>> James
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
>>> Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP
>>> 
>>> 
 
 *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
 I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
 going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
 speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
 restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
 pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
 does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
 keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
 because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
 the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
 external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
 the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
 have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
 that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
 I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
 problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
 scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
 resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
 
 Thanks,
 Eleni
 
> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> > 


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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[James & Nash]

Hi Donal,

Your notes would be great thank you. I did not know you were a lecturer in 
Computer Science very cool.

Thank you for the info, this makes much more sense now. I didn't know that 
Netscape invented Javascript, I thought it was developed by Sun whoa re the 
chief commercial suport behind Orca on Linux.
Thanks again
TC

James
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From: "Donal Fitzpatrick" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???



Hi James,

OK I'm not sure how much you know of internet markup, so forgive me if I'm 
being too simplistic.

Way back in about 1995 what we know of as the internet was still pretty much 
in its infancy.  At that stage, documents were rudimentary and the things 
that could be displayed on the web were fairly primitive.  At this time 
browsers such as the text-based Lynx, and the graphically oriented Mosaic 
and Netscape were dominant.

Documents were static.  They were prepared using HTML, and the level of 
interactivity was minimal.  Along came Netscape (the company) and decided it 
would be nice to have a degree of interactivity on the web.  So they 
developed Javascript.

In essence, javascript sits in the header portion of an HTML document and 
enables client-side scripts to be embedded into web pages.  This differs 
from PHP (another scripting language) in that PHP runs on the server and 
delivers pages to the browser.

OK let's give you an example.  Let's suppose you have a form on a web page 
that requires a certain type of input; let's say for arguments sake a 
telephone number.  So I as a user enter abcdef7 instead of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7.  I 
click the submit button.  If the developer has written the appropriate 
javascript code, it will check the input of the form before it is sent to 
the server for processing.  If everything is in order, (which in our 
previous example it is not) it will send the data to the server for storage 
or whatever needs to be done.  However, as there are errors in the data in 
the telephone number field it can either pop up a message box informing us 
of the error, or perform some other action.

Javascript can also handle various events like mouse clicks, keyboard 
events, and loads of other things to make the web experience more dynamic. 
However, in my opinion, badly written Javascript has been responsible for 
more inaccessible or unusable webpages than anything else over the years, 
and yep I'm including flash in there as well.

In essence, Javascript, therefore, is a client-side (or browser side) way of 
adding dynamism or interactivity to web pages.

I'm giving a lecture to some first year undergrads on this stuff in a few 
weeks, so if you do want more info just let me know and I'll send you a link 
to the notes.

Cheers,

Donal
On 12 Nov 2009, at 22:08, James & Nash wrote:

> What is JavaScript? I've looked it up on Wikipedia, but I've found it too 
> technical. Thanks for any explainations.
>
> TC
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: Chris Blouch
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???
>
> Nice. Sunspider Javascript benchmarks dropped from 857ms to 671ms on my 
> MacbookPro. That's a bit more than a 20% improvement in JavaScript 
> execution speed.
>
> CB
>
> Charlie Doremus wrote:
>> Have just installed 4.0.4 update, minutes ago. If I see anything 
>> interesting will report.
>> Macworld says; Software Update will tell you that the update improves 
>> JavaScript performance, makes searching through large browser histories 
>> less painful, and enhances the stability of third-party plug-ins and, for 
>> what it's worth, Yahoo Mail (Yahoo!).
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Christina  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has 
>>> upgraded and noticed any changes or improvements.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christina
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com
>>
>>
>
>
> >





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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Tiffany D]

Aa bravo.  Thanks.  That makes my life a whole lot easier.

On 12/11/2009, Scott Howell  wrote:
>
> Most any card reader will work fine on the Mac.
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>
>>
>> Okay.  I got my external keyboard and it works fine.  whatever this
>> is, it seems to be a hardware issue.  I wonder if it'll help to
>> upgrade to the latest version of Leopard.  I'm gonna do an update and
>> see what happens.  I had this happen last time and they put on a new
>> keyboard, so it should be doing this.  Also, last time, it was just a
>> few keys.  Now, it seems to be the whole keyboard.  Does anyone know
>> of a compact flash card reader that's compatible with the Mac?  I was
>> planning on getting some type II cards and an adapter in any case to
>> use with my Windows and DOS machines, but I might have to do this alot
>> sooner than I thought.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eleni
>>
>> On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
>>> I'm responding with my old address, where I get full messages, so I
>>> won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in digest mode
>>> like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the keyboard.  I
>>> got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever the version
>>> was before the last automatic update.  I never really took notice,
>>> sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel free to offer
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eleni
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2009, James & Nash  wrote:

 Hi Eleni,

 Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What
 version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was it
 in
 2008?

 TC

 James
 - Original Message -
 From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
 Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP


>
> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if it's
> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.  I
> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>
> Thanks,
> Eleni
>
>>


>>

>>>
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
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Re: voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi,

With the sraproc voices, i've had a subpar experience, from the process of 
purchasing it, to licensing it, and the general feel of the voice. I've 
downloaded heather, and i find the voice kind of low quality, somewhat noisy, 
not as crisp as the infovox voices. 

I don't know how much they actually test and get the community to try their 
app, but there is no demo version, so that sort of explains a major part of it.

I will stick to the infovox voices, they are way more hifidelity, and they 
don't crash on me.

my opinion

best

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Is virtual box accessible?

[Bejarano, Rafael P.]

Hello everyone,

I just found out about a piece of free virtualization software called 
virtualbox. Does anyone on this list know if it is accessible with VO? A 
related question I have is whether virtualbox can run OS 10 as a virtual 
machine on a PC. Answers to either or both of the above questions would be 
greatly appreciated.

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Re: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP

[Tiffany D]

This external keyboard is driving me nuts!  It seems to be missing a
key on the left side (my macbook has four on that side and this one
only has three), the escape key is stuck down and I can't shift tab,
though I can tab.  I haven't changed synths to hear the pitch when I
write a capital letter so must do that to see what's going on there.
Anyway, I'm wondering if this is still under warranty.  I got it in
December 2007.

Thanks,
Eleni

On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
> Aa bravo.  Thanks.  That makes my life a whole lot easier.
>
> On 12/11/2009, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>
>> Most any card reader will work fine on the Mac.
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Okay.  I got my external keyboard and it works fine.  whatever this
>>> is, it seems to be a hardware issue.  I wonder if it'll help to
>>> upgrade to the latest version of Leopard.  I'm gonna do an update and
>>> see what happens.  I had this happen last time and they put on a new
>>> keyboard, so it should be doing this.  Also, last time, it was just a
>>> few keys.  Now, it seems to be the whole keyboard.  Does anyone know
>>> of a compact flash card reader that's compatible with the Mac?  I was
>>> planning on getting some type II cards and an adapter in any case to
>>> use with my Windows and DOS machines, but I might have to do this alot
>>> sooner than I thought.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eleni
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D  wrote:
 I'm responding with my old address, where I get full messages, so I
 won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in digest mode
 like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the keyboard.  I
 got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever the version
 was before the last automatic update.  I never really took notice,
 sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel free to offer
 them.

 Thanks,
 Eleni

 On 12/11/2009, James & Nash  wrote:
>
> Hi Eleni,
>
> Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO greets you. What
> version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy your Mac was
> it
> in
> 2008?
>
> TC
>
> James
> - Original Message -
> From: "Eleni Vamvakari" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
> Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP
>
>
>>
>> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
>> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no clue what's
>> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then I lost
>> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no luck.  So I
>> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no speech when I
>> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets me, and so
>> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It seems that my
>> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see if it was
>> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case because even
>> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I have an
>> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now to test if
>> it's
>> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be appreciated.
>> I
>> have no other modern machines available now except the large desktop
>> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now living upstairs.
>> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/line in
>> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
>> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or, as a last
>> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eleni
>>
>>>
>
>
>>>
>

>>>
>>> >
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
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How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[Tiffany D]

Hi again,

I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed
under warranty.  As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought
in December of 2007.  I have all the Leopard disks and documentation
for it, even a nice bag that we got.  The adapter's a bit messed up
and only charges the machine when it's off.  If you try to charge it
when it's on, it won't work.  As I said today, the built-in keyboard
isn't working, but the external one works fine for the most part.  I'm
just not sure what to do about my Acapella Dimitris voice and my
Tapedeck (both are legal and registered).  If I uninstall them or do a
reinstall of Leopard, will I still be able to use them on another
system?  Anyway, how much is this worth?  We originally bought it for
about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care plan and considering
the problems it now has and how old it is, I know I can't sell it for
anywhere near that price.  So what's a good asking price to start?

Talk soon,
Eleni

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Re: How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[chris polk]

how much do you want for it??
how much ram and how fast is the processor?


On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Tiffany D wrote:

>
> Hi again,
>
> I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed
> under warranty.  As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought
> in December of 2007.  I have all the Leopard disks and documentation
> for it, even a nice bag that we got.  The adapter's a bit messed up
> and only charges the machine when it's off.  If you try to charge it
> when it's on, it won't work.  As I said today, the built-in keyboard
> isn't working, but the external one works fine for the most part.  I'm
> just not sure what to do about my Acapella Dimitris voice and my
> Tapedeck (both are legal and registered).  If I uninstall them or do a
> reinstall of Leopard, will I still be able to use them on another
> system?  Anyway, how much is this worth?  We originally bought it for
> about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care plan and considering
> the problems it now has and how old it is, I know I can't sell it for
> anywhere near that price.  So what's a good asking price to start?
>
> Talk soon,
> Eleni
>
> >


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Re: How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[Tiffany D]

Oh boy.  I'm an idiot.  I forgot that I already told you guys when I
got my machine earler in the problems thread, did it again and now
mentioned it here.  Hello brain?  Are you there?  lol Anyway, it works
with another adapter (borrowed from a family member) so there's no
problem with the port, just my particular adapter.  It's a dual core
processor with a 160 hard disk.  I would check on Apple's site, but
I'm sure the specs have changed.  It's not a Macbook Air or Pro, just
a regular Macbook.  Maybe, that'll help anyone who might have the
specs so they can post them here.  I don't wanna tell you something
that's rong.  Anyway, I'm honestly not sure how much I want.  I'm
trying to find a reasonable price that works for me and the person to
whom I'm selling it.  I also need to see if it's still under warrenty
and worth fixing.

On 12/11/2009, chris polk  wrote:
>
> how much do you want for it??
> how much ram and how fast is the processor?
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed
>> under warranty.  As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought
>> in December of 2007.  I have all the Leopard disks and documentation
>> for it, even a nice bag that we got.  The adapter's a bit messed up
>> and only charges the machine when it's off.  If you try to charge it
>> when it's on, it won't work.  As I said today, the built-in keyboard
>> isn't working, but the external one works fine for the most part.  I'm
>> just not sure what to do about my Acapella Dimitris voice and my
>> Tapedeck (both are legal and registered).  If I uninstall them or do a
>> reinstall of Leopard, will I still be able to use them on another
>> system?  Anyway, how much is this worth?  We originally bought it for
>> about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care plan and considering
>> the problems it now has and how old it is, I know I can't sell it for
>> anywhere near that price.  So what's a good asking price to start?
>>
>> Talk soon,
>> Eleni
>>
>> >
>
>
> >
>

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Safari Question

[David McLean]

Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
instead of opening it when the link is clicked?

In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished on 
the mac?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[Dan Eickmeier]

If you got Apple care with it, I'd think that they'd be able to fix 
your problem with the built in keyboard.  Or has your Apple care 
already run out?  On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:46 -0500, Tiffany D wrote:
> 
> Oh boy.  I'm an idiot.  I forgot that I already told you guys when I
> got my machine earler in the problems thread, did it again and now
> mentioned it here.  Hello brain?  Are you there?  lol Anyway, it works
> with another adapter (borrowed from a family member) so there's no
> problem with the port, just my particular adapter.  It's a dual core
> processor with a 160 hard disk.  I would check on Apple's site, but
> I'm sure the specs have changed.  It's not a Macbook Air or Pro, just
> a regular Macbook.  Maybe, that'll help anyone who might have the
> specs so they can post them here.  I don't wanna tell you something
> that's rong.  Anyway, I'm honestly not sure how much I want.  I'm
> trying to find a reasonable price that works for me and the person to
> whom I'm selling it.  I also need to see if it's still under warrenty
> and worth fixing.
> 
> On 12/11/2009, chris polk  wrote:
>> 
>> how much do you want for it??
>> how much ram and how fast is the processor?
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed
>>> under warranty.  As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought
>>> in December of 2007.  I have all the Leopard disks and documentation
>>> for it, even a nice bag that we got.  The adapter's a bit messed up
>>> and only charges the machine when it's off.  If you try to charge it
>>> when it's on, it won't work.  As I said today, the built-in keyboard
>>> isn't working, but the external one works fine for the most part.  I'm
>>> just not sure what to do about my Acapella Dimitris voice and my
>>> Tapedeck (both are legal and registered).  If I uninstall them or do a
>>> reinstall of Leopard, will I still be able to use them on another
>>> system?  Anyway, how much is this worth?  We originally bought it for
>>> about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care plan and considering
>>> the problems it now has and how old it is, I know I can't sell it for
>>> anywhere near that price.  So what's a good asking price to start?
>>> 
>>> Talk soon,
>>> Eleni
>>> 
 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 
> > 

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Re: Safari Question

[Dan Eickmeier]

Hi Dave, in most cases, you should be able to VO-shift-M on a link, and 
go to the download linked file option in that contextual menu.  On Thu, 
12 Nov 2009 20:48:30 -0500, David McLean wrote:
> 
> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in 
> Safari instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
> 
> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this 
> accomplished on the mac?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Dave
> > 

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Re: Safari 4.0.4 update released???

[matthew Dyer]

Hi yes it is true.  I saw it on an apple insider rss artical have not installed 
it yet.

Matthew


On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Christina wrote:

>> 
>> I saw this on twitter and wondered if it was true and if anyone has upgraded 
>> and noticed any changes or improvements.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
> 
> 
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Re: Safari Question

[Chantel Cuddemi]

option enter. 
On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:48 PM, David McLean wrote:

> 
> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
> 
> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
> on the mac?
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Dave
> > 


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Re: -- -- Re: Safari Question

[David McLean]

H!  I could be missing it but I don'tsee any such item in the context menu 
or in the regular menus for Safari.
On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

> 
> Hi Dave, in most cases, you should be able to VO-shift-M on a link, and 
> go to the download linked file option in that contextual menu.  On Thu, 
> 12 Nov 2009 20:48:30 -0500, David McLean wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in 
>> Safari instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>> 
>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this 
>> accomplished on the mac?
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Dave
>>> 
> 
> > 


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Re: Safari Question

[David McLean]

That did it!  Thanks a lot.

On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:

> 
> option enter. 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:48 PM, David McLean wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
>> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>> 
>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
>> on the mac?
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Dave
>>> 
> 
> 
> > 


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Re: Safari Question

[Chantel Cuddemi]

Glad I could help. 
On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:25 PM, David McLean wrote:

> 
> That did it!  Thanks a lot.
> 
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
>> 
>> option enter. 
>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:48 PM, David McLean wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello, Is there a way to save an mp3 file that a link points at in Safari 
>>> instead of opening it when the link is clicked?
>>> 
>>> In Windows of course you can go to save target but how is this accomplished 
>>> on the mac?
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>> Dave
 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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Safari 4.0.4 busy on Macbook

[Ryan Mann]

I have an Imac and a Macbook.  Both computers run Mac OS 10.6.2.  I updated to 
Safari 4.0.4 on both computers.  This version of Safari seems pretty stable on 
my Imac.  However, on my Macbook it seems to be getting busy a lot.  It is 
pretty consistent on the blog http://www.dailypaul.com.  If I go to this blog 
on my Imac, it works as it should.  On my Macbook, whenever I try to read 
comments, VoiceOver will start saying "Safari busy.  Safari ready."  Before I 
upgraded to Safari version 4.0.4, I didn't usually have problems like this on 
my Macbook.  Why would Safari 4.0.4 work differently on my macbook than it does 
on my Imac if I'm running the exact same operating system?  I went ahead and 
reported the problem to Apple.


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Re: How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[Tyler Littlefield]

It shouldn't be to hard to just replace the kb yourself. What I'm noticing with 
mine is that the bottom of the case pops off, but I think the back of the 
others pop off, on some of the older ones. This one would require you remove 
the motherboard, but I'm thinking the hd would be ok as it looks to be in the 
right-hand-corner front where there is no kb.

On Nov 12, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:

> 
> If you got Apple care with it, I'd think that they'd be able to fix 
> your problem with the built in keyboard.  Or has your Apple care 
> already run out?  On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:46 -0500, Tiffany D wrote:
>> 
>> Oh boy.  I'm an idiot.  I forgot that I already told you guys when I
>> got my machine earler in the problems thread, did it again and now
>> mentioned it here.  Hello brain?  Are you there?  lol Anyway, it works
>> with another adapter (borrowed from a family member) so there's no
>> problem with the port, just my particular adapter.  It's a dual core
>> processor with a 160 hard disk.  I would check on Apple's site, but
>> I'm sure the specs have changed.  It's not a Macbook Air or Pro, just
>> a regular Macbook.  Maybe, that'll help anyone who might have the
>> specs so they can post them here.  I don't wanna tell you something
>> that's rong.  Anyway, I'm honestly not sure how much I want.  I'm
>> trying to find a reasonable price that works for me and the person to
>> whom I'm selling it.  I also need to see if it's still under warrenty
>> and worth fixing.
>> 
>> On 12/11/2009, chris polk  wrote:
>>> 
>>> how much do you want for it??
>>> how much ram and how fast is the processor?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi again,
 
 I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed
 under warranty.  As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought
 in December of 2007.  I have all the Leopard disks and documentation
 for it, even a nice bag that we got.  The adapter's a bit messed up
 and only charges the machine when it's off.  If you try to charge it
 when it's on, it won't work.  As I said today, the built-in keyboard
 isn't working, but the external one works fine for the most part.  I'm
 just not sure what to do about my Acapella Dimitris voice and my
 Tapedeck (both are legal and registered).  If I uninstall them or do a
 reinstall of Leopard, will I still be able to use them on another
 system?  Anyway, how much is this worth?  We originally bought it for
 about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care plan and considering
 the problems it now has and how old it is, I know I can't sell it for
 anywhere near that price.  So what's a good asking price to start?
 
 Talk soon,
 Eleni
 
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DJ set with dj3 software

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi Gang,

I am in the process of releasing my blog at www.theblindsamurai.com, where i 
will introduce myself, talk about what happened to me last year, and start with 
a podcast on Djing with algoriddim's DJ3 software, as well as coupling it with 
a full digital dj set which include these following midi controllers:

-the vestac vci-100 twin turntable midi controller
-the nano pad 12 pad midi controller for sampling and drumkit library
-the nano kontrol for on the fly effects handling with 9 knobs and 18 switches.

There is a different version of thevci line which is vci-50, but the turntables 
are way too small for me.

Also, i am still in contact with the guys at algoriddim, and our thread is 
growing with back and forth communication on the actual accessibility issues 
for those who don't want to get the full dj midi kit, and do mixes directly via 
the keyboard and trackpad.

The main issue is that there should be hotspots assigned with boundary 
restrictions switched on/off on both turntables so that the blind user can 
scratch with the trackpad when the switch is on, and turn it back off with a 
single keystroke.

Will post when all is up.

Thanks, and best


Yuma Decaux

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anti spyware

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi Gang,

I've just tried mac scan, and its totally inaccessible, similar to when you 
open google chrome. it just says no mac scan windows available.

Does anyone know if some solutions for spyware prevention?

Jthanks, and best


Yuma Decaux

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Re: How Much is My Macbook Worth?

[JC Helary]

Le 13 nov. 2009 à 10:30, Tiffany D a écrit :

> I'm really considering selling my Macbook if I can't just get it fixed under 
> warranty. As I mentioned in the previous thread, it was bought in December of 
> 2007.

<...>

> We originally bought it for about $1,700, but that was with the Apple Care 
> plan

Apple Care is supposed to last you 3 years.

While your machine is under Apple Care, Apple will fix anything wrong with your 
machine that they can reproduce. For free.

I have a first generation Mac Book (Core Duo) and I sent it 3 times to Apple. I 
did not send it in fact, they sent a truck to pick it up... It is in Japan so I 
don't know for where you live.

Anyway, get in touch with them and follow their instructions. That's everything 
you have to do.





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Re: voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[anouk radix]

Hello, I agree that thry might not be as hq but they do sound very natural and 
I like them with reading longer text especially william BUT this is impossible 
because voicover becomes so totally unstable if I use them. Also they are 
really slow in comparison with alex. My buying experience was good though i did 
not get the william liecense immeidately ( i bought sarah and william at the 
seem time) but that was fixed within hours. I do indeed totally and 
wholeheartedly agree THEY SHOULD RELEASE A DOWNLOADABLE DEMO. Because at this 
time I have the feeling this program was totally not tested on the mac with 
voicover.
A bit disappointing really, even though these voices are not insanely expensive 
you still expect SOME quality control. I did submit a bug request but currently 
its just really unstable.
Greetings, AnoukÎ
On Nov 13, 2009, at 2:23 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> With the sraproc voices, i've had a subpar experience, from the process of 
> purchasing it, to licensing it, and the general feel of the voice. I've 
> downloaded heather, and i find the voice kind of low quality, somewhat noisy, 
> not as crisp as the infovox voices. 
> 
> I don't know how much they actually test and get the community to try their 
> app, but there is no demo version, so that sort of explains a major part of 
> it.
> 
> I will stick to the infovox voices, they are way more hifidelity, and they 
> don't crash on me.
> 
> my opinion
> 
> best
> 
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Re: voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[anouk radix]

Hey Nic, yeah I immediately sent them a bug report. They REALLY should release 
a demo that can be downloaded because now I doubt ANY testing on the mac was 
done at all. I feel fairly disappointed, ok these things were not insanely 
priced but I still paid good money for these and then you expect things to 
work, its a commercial product after all.
Greetings, Anouk
On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:26 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I think that applies to both platforms. William wasn't working that well with 
> my Windows machine, and though he sounded fairly decent, he tended to spell 
> simple things as "install". As for your experience, it sounds absolutely 
> terrifying. I might try it one day to see for myself, simply to find out if 
> my William behaves the same way. It might be a brilliant idea to send some 
> feedback to Cereproc about this if there is no other possible way, somehow, 
> to correct the problem.
> 
> Thanks for the insight into how it worked on the Mac.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Nov 13, 2009, at 12:00 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello, Voicover has restarted a lot more often after installing william and 
>> sometimes I get weird plops and osunds in the text while reading. Once 
>> william started reading a string of text and numbers that was not in the 
>> text that I was reading and even stopping and restarting voicover could not 
>> stop him talking. All in all from the short time I have used william he 
>> seems rather unstable on the mac platform.
>> Greetings, Anouk
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Re: voiceover getting crashy after installing cereproc william

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

One difference, but that goes a long way from being crash and pronounciation 
bug free, is the fact that you can change the pitch to the seraproc voices. But 
again, they don't breathe like Alex, so it defeats the added feature.

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