Re: Readind pdf documents in Snow leopard
Hello Scott, On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > What I was looking for is to start precisely where I left off even if > in the middle of a sentence three quarters through that section. Try setting a hotspot. As long as you don't quit Preview in the meantime, that works. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: attention Lioncourt
Nor would we want him to be like a rollin' stone. He's too focused, and his content is very good. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 20:12 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: attention Lioncourt Do we really want Josh to get tangled up in blue? On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Keep on keepin' on, Josh, and thanks for the fabulous work you do! > > Mike > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh de > Lioncourt > Sent: Monday, 26 October, 2009 18:40 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: attention Lioncourt > > > Hi all, > > Thank you all for the kind words and support. > > To answer Chris, yes, there is a donation link on the site. It's > only been > used twice in all the 2 plus years I've been running the site though. > > We'll continue to offer the best resource we possibly can. Thanks to > all who > have contributed content and support. > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MobileNavigator for North America
Hi Greg, THanks for the response and well let me ask you this. Obviously you cant' take any of these navigation programs without a little grain of salt. My wife has a Garman (forget how it's spelled) and it does actually do a really great job, but admittedly it does take one on a rather interesting route and I'm not entirely sure how the logic works. I don't know if you have ever used something like such a device or one of the "blind" products like the Treker etc. As long as I could accurately get street names, and I could get within 30 feet of my destination, it would be well worth the money. If it did some of the same things programs like Geo Mobile from Code Factory does, then well hey it would be more than well worth the money. Thank you for confirming it's accessibility and at least that will help me make a decision. On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:07 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > We tested three GPS navigation product for the iPhone and found only > Navigon MobilNavigator to be accessible to the blind. The others > tested were not accessible with iPhone VoiceOver. > > Navigon MobilNavigator will do just as you ask, plot a rout to a > location. But just as with any GPS device your should not trust it, > excuse the term "blindly" as they can sometime lead you off in strange > ways. > > Gregory Kearney > Manager - Accessible Media > Association for the Blind of Western Australia > 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 > Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia > > Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 > Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) > Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 > Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) > Email: gkear...@gmail.com > > On 27/10/2009, at 7:59 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> >> Folks, I had asked about GPS solutions and I got only one response >> from Alex about a product I presume is in development called GDA. >> However, I did learn of the MobileNavigator app from the >> Maccessibility website and I am curious if anyone has tried this >> application. For $90 U.S. I would not be willing to just toss my >> money >> down in hopes it does work, I'd like to know if anyone has used it >> and >> their thoughts. I'm looking for a solution that will provide me the >> necessary information to get from one location to another. THis means >> if I exit a building and decide I need to be at another location, I >> want the software to figure out where I am, and provide me the >> information necessary to reach the next destination. >> >> Thanks, >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MobileNavigator for North America
Portia, I think Navigon makes MobileNavigator as I understand. tnx, On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Portia wrote: > > Scott, > > > There is also Navigon, which I heard is accessible. > > Portia. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:00 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: MobileNavigator for North America > > > Folks, I had asked about GPS solutions and I got only one response > from Alex about a product I presume is in development called GDA. > However, I did learn of the MobileNavigator app from the > Maccessibility website and I am curious if anyone has tried this > application. For $90 U.S. I would not be willing to just toss my money > down in hopes it does work, I'd like to know if anyone has used it and > their thoughts. I'm looking for a solution that will provide me the > necessary information to get from one location to another. THis means > if I exit a building and decide I need to be at another location, I > want the software to figure out where I am, and provide me the > information necessary to reach the next destination. > > Thanks, > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: what happened to the contextual menu??
It is control-option-shift-m, which is VO-keys-shift-m. On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi list, > > What happened to command shift m, which usually brings up contextual > menu wherever you mouse/vo cursor is? > > I don't understand this had to be changed. > > Thanks, and best > > > Yuma Decaux > > Light has no value without darkness > Skype: shainobi1 > twitter: www.twitter.com/triple7 > Tel: +85513623378 > Yuma Antoine Decaux > jamy...@gmail.com > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Readind pdf documents in Snow leopard
Hi Anne and thanks that is an obvious answer. I guess what I would like to see is eventually this not to even require a hot spot. Appreciate all of your input/assistance. On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Scott, > > On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >> What I was looking for is to start precisely where I left off even if >> in the middle of a sentence three quarters through that section. > Try setting a hotspot. As long as you don't quit Preview in the > meantime, that works. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
problem with mail account
Hello all, I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into Mail, I get an error message for this particular account that the certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? Thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: problem with mail account
Donna, somewhere in that dialog there is a "Show certificate" button which expands the dialog and gives you a check box to ignore the certificate and not prompt you again. Frank -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:43 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: problem with mail account Hello all, I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into Mail, I get an error message for this particular account that the certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? Thanks, Donna No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: 10/26/09 16:22:00 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problem with mail account
Thanks. I clicked the Show Certificate button, but didn't see the option to ignore. I'll try again. Donna On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > > Donna, somewhere in that dialog there is a "Show certificate" button > which expands the dialog and gives you a check box to ignore the > certificate and not prompt you again. > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:43 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: problem with mail account > > > Hello all, > > I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and > wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into Mail, > I get an error message for this particular account that the > certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or > cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? > Thanks, > Donna > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: > 10/26/09 16:22:00 > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
VMWare Fusion 3 released
Folks, VMWare has released Fusion 3. It's main claim to fame is Snow Leopard compatibility. The upgrade cost is 39.95 and the URL is: http://www.vmware.com/go/buyfusion Marshall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problem with mail account
Hi Donna, When the dialog pops up, click the "Show Certificate" button. Find the table that shows the certificates for the account. It's just a regular table. To the left of that, there should be a box that says "always trust" and some other stuff depending on your configuration. The box will always "Always trust" to start with. Hope that helps. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Thanks. I clicked the Show Certificate button, but didn't see the > option to ignore. I'll try again. > Donna > On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > >> >> Donna, somewhere in that dialog there is a "Show certificate" button >> which expands the dialog and gives you a check box to ignore the >> certificate and not prompt you again. >> Frank >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:43 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: problem with mail account >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and >> wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into >> Mail, >> I get an error message for this particular account that the >> certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or >> cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: >> 10/26/09 16:22:00 >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problem with mail account
Thanks, Nic. Found it. Best, Donna - Original Message - From: "Nicolai Svendsen" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: problem with mail account > > Hi Donna, > > When the dialog pops up, click the "Show Certificate" button. Find the > table that shows the certificates for the account. It's just a regular > table. To the left of that, there should be a box that says "always > trust" and some other stuff depending on your configuration. The box > will always "Always trust" to start with. Hope that helps. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Thanks. I clicked the Show Certificate button, but didn't see the >> option to ignore. I'll try again. >> Donna >> On Oct 27, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: >> >>> >>> Donna, somewhere in that dialog there is a "Show certificate" button >>> which expands the dialog and gives you a check box to ignore the >>> certificate and not prompt you again. >>> Frank >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:43 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: problem with mail account >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and >>> wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into >>> Mail, >>> I get an error message for this particular account that the >>> certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or >>> cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? >>> Thanks, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.32/2460 - Release Date: >>> 10/26/09 16:22:00 >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Readind pdf documents in Snow leopard
Hi, I'm resending this because this did not come through on my e- mail. I'm not sure why but here goes again just in case. :) Christina Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot. Now, when I leave the pdf document and when I return I am at the top of the page that I left off on instead of the very beginning of a long document. :) The voice over cursor isn't on the line I left off on it's at the beginning of the page I was on. That's soo much better. That will save me time. :) Now, I just need to figure out why I cannot easily vo spacebar on a link. :) Thanks so much, Christina Close Preferences and go to the Menu bar. > In the View menu, set PDF Display submenu to "Single Page", and the > "Sidebar submenu" to "Thumbnails". > > I find that with these settings, I can go to another application and > return to Preview and not lose my place in the document. A simple Down > Arrow takes me to the next page, and if I'm already interacting, the > interaction continues on the next page. > > All text navigation commands work fine and it's easy to select a > different page from the sidebar on the right. > > I hope this is of some help. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Accessible iPod Touch
Hi Mark, M AUSTEN wrote: > > I am registered Blind and have been asked to investigate the > accessibility of the iPod Touch for Blind and Partially sighted > visitors to museums in the UK. > > So the question is has anyone with sight loss had any success using > the iPod Touch and are there any downloadable Apps? > > Many thanks, > > Mark > Audio Guide Auditor > Alternative Design > You could probably get more extensive responses from the roughly 350 members of the VIPhone list: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone However, the answer to your question is that the iPod Touch is usable by the visually impaired. For more background specifically on the iPod Touch, you can check the most recent Screenless Switchers podcast and the Serotalk podcasts from mid-September and mid-October, or the latest Mac-cessibility podcast. Also, check the archived list post on Podcasts and resources about VoiceOver on the iPhone and iPod Touch: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg10679.html Incidentally, Serotek released an iPhone/iPod touch app aimed at the visaully impaired (i Blink Radio), and reported over a thousand downloads. You don't mention what type of museums you're targeting (art museums?, the British Museum?) or whether the type of envisioned use is similar to simple podcast downloads. The most extensive effort I'm aware of by art museums to offer work for the blind was by the Metropolitan Museum of Art, which released several downloadable podcasts describing artwork in their collection some years ago. See, for example, the description in this article on "Art for the Blind": http://www.artagogo.com/commentary/artforblind/artforblind.htm Since your question I checked a few museum apps on the iPod Touch. (These are limited to apps that either are currently free, or were free earlier and downloaded to an iPod Touch that I could check; download links at iTunes app store follow each entry): • Love Art: National Gallery, London by Antenna Audio, Inc. (was free, currently $2.99) http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=314566159&mt=8 This seems to be entirely accessible. Note that if you want to interrupt the spoken dialogs midstream you have to double-tap anywhere on the screen to get the "back arrow", and you may need to actually touch the back arrow at the upper left with split tap or double tap to navigate back to the previous screen. (Not necessary if the dialog has finished speaking - just double-tap anywhere if the "Back arrow" has focus). • Yours, Vincent The Letters of Vincent Van Gogh by Antenna Audio, Inc. (free) http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=334681106&mt=8 This app is also entirely accessible. Since it provides biographical information about the life of Vincent van Gogh, including dramatic readings of his letters, that is meant to supplement the information in the exhibits of the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, this works better as an app for the visually impaired than the National Gallery app, which talks about the subject of artwork without descriptive context. The Metropolitan Museum of Art's older podcasts were the only ones that I felt were truly designed for the totally blind -- explaining theme, layout, the unique qualities of the artist, etc. • Rick Steves' Orsay Museum Tour by Ubermind, Inc. (was free, now $4.99) http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=318764321&mt=8 The Info button (General information, museum hours, how to get there, free entry times, museum pass, etc.) is a simple list, and the pages of info are accessible. The main tour entry for this app is not accessible. The app opens on a page labeled "Points of Interest" with two buttons (Info and List View). The List View just "boinks" (no response), even with a pass-through gesture. If you toggle VoiceOver off, you can touch the screen and select from the list view, but you wont know which entry is being selected. These pages are read by VoiceOver , but there appear to be embedded recording buttons which are not found when you flick through. Also, the button to return to previous screen is announced as "map view", which suggests the navigation is designed for a visual interface. • I couldn't find a free app for the British Museum. There's one for $4.99 by Way2GoGuides (London: British Museum Guide & Audio). I tried out the free app: "London Highlights" by the same company. It's only partly accessible. Movie/audio links work, but selecting a link, like "The Rosetta Stone" just gave a page with no VoiceOver readable content. The embedded links are just announced as "link" as you flick through, but they do play if you double-tap them. http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=317452154&mt=8 (link is for the free "London Highlights" -- I assume Way2GoGuides excerpted part
making event registration sites accessible for screen readers
Hi list, I was just contacted by a woman who is the Executive Director for an organization specializing in adaptive sports for the blind, visually impaired, and physically challenged. She is giving a presentation to race organizers on how to make events more accessible and inclusive for the disabled. Since a majority of events, 5K, 10K, marathons, triathlons, and others have online registration, she wondered about how to make these sites accessible to screen readers or magnification software. The widely used site is www.active.com but I am wondering if anyone on the list has example of sites which are accessible and can be held up as a model how to ensure these sites are accessible? I do not know much about web development or design so what are suggestions that the site developer may consider to ensure screen readers/magnification programs can give the user of such sites access to all aspects of a site when registering for an event? Israel Antonio Sexy Isra --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Readind pdf documents in Snow leopard
Hello Christina, On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:45 PM, Christina wrote: > > Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot. I'm so glad. > > Now, I just need to figure out why I cannot easily vo spacebar on a > link. I've been working on this one, and it's complicated. VO-Spacebar doesn't do it, but if you move the mouse to the VO cursor (VO-Command- F5), check what's under the mouse (VO-F5) and it reads the name of the page, VO-Shift-Spacebar should work. However, if it says that nothing is under the mouse after trying to move it to the VO curser, turning VO off then clicking with the physical mouse has been known to work for me. Not very good, is it. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Readind pdf documents in Snow leopard
thanks Anne, I'll try turning vo of and then on again. :) On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Christina, > > On Oct 26, 2009, at 9:45 PM, Christina wrote: > >> >> Anne, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That helps a lot. > I'm so glad. >> >> Now, I just need to figure out why I cannot easily vo spacebar on a >> link. > I've been working on this one, and it's complicated. VO-Spacebar > doesn't do it, but if you move the mouse to the VO cursor (VO- > Command-F5), check what's under the mouse (VO-F5) and it reads the > name of the page, VO-Shift-Spacebar should work. > > However, if it says that nothing is under the mouse after trying to > move it to the VO curser, turning VO off then clicking with the > physical mouse has been known to work for me. > > Not very good, is it. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: making event registration sites accessible for screen readers
It might be better to point to some best practices. Just because a site is or is not accessible won't give much of a hint as to why. Here is one list I use: http://dev.aol.com/accessibility/requirements/ a more official list is here: http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#guidelines I also like running my pages through Worldspace which has a free scanner here: http://worldspace.deque.com/wsservice/eval/checkCompliance.jsp it catches a lot of the basic problems. CB Israel wrote: > Hi list, > > I was just contacted by a woman who is the Executive Director for an > organization specializing in adaptive sports for the blind, visually > impaired, and physically challenged. She is giving a presentation to > race organizers on how to make events more accessible and inclusive > for the disabled. > > Since a majority of events, 5K, 10K, marathons, triathlons, and others > have online registration, she wondered about how to make these sites > accessible to screen readers or magnification software. The widely > used site is www.active.com but I am wondering if anyone on the list > has example of sites which are accessible and can be held up as a > model how to ensure these sites are accessible? I do not know much > about web development or design so what are suggestions that the site > developer may consider to ensure screen readers/magnification programs > can give the user of such sites access to all aspects of a site when > registering for an event? > > Israel Antonio > Sexy Isra > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Refreshing the current screen
There is a 'Reload' command for Safari which is Apple-R. This is useful on news sites which add new items to the top of the page as they come in. You just hit apple-R to reload the page and check if there is anything new. CB Howard Dupuis wrote: > JAWS needs this because it takes info off the screen and translates it > into something usable to us. Because VoiceOver doesn't work this way, > it doesn't need -- and doesn't have -- such a command. (I came over > from JAWS and had wondered the same thing.) > Not sure what it is that's screwing up the Google pages, but I can't > see how it could be a matter of your screen needing to be refreshed. > -- Howard. > > Lindsay Yazzolino wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Is there a command for refreshing the screen for a web page? I know >> that command R refreshes the page, but there exists another JAWS >> command (alt escape) which refreshes the current screen. I am having >> trouble using the Google Voice web interface, and am wondering if not >> knowing this command is part of the problem. Thanks. >> >> Lindsay >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: making event registration sites accessible for screen readers
Thank you Chris! Also, wonderful point. The woman did say she not only wants examples of sites, but the reasons, practices, or considerations taken to make them accessible. Israel Antonio Sexy Isra On Oct 27, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > > It might be better to point to some best practices. Just because a > site > is or is not accessible won't give much of a hint as to why. Here is > one > list I use: > > http://dev.aol.com/accessibility/requirements/ > > a more official list is here: > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/quickref/#guidelines > > I also like running my pages through Worldspace which has a free > scanner > here: > > http://worldspace.deque.com/wsservice/eval/checkCompliance.jsp > > it catches a lot of the basic problems. > > CB > > Israel wrote: >> Hi list, >> >> I was just contacted by a woman who is the Executive Director for an >> organization specializing in adaptive sports for the blind, visually >> impaired, and physically challenged. She is giving a presentation to >> race organizers on how to make events more accessible and inclusive >> for the disabled. >> >> Since a majority of events, 5K, 10K, marathons, triathlons, and >> others >> have online registration, she wondered about how to make these sites >> accessible to screen readers or magnification software. The widely >> used site is www.active.com but I am wondering if anyone on the list >> has example of sites which are accessible and can be held up as a >> model how to ensure these sites are accessible? I do not know much >> about web development or design so what are suggestions that the site >> developer may consider to ensure screen readers/magnification >> programs >> can give the user of such sites access to all aspects of a site when >> registering for an event? >> >> Israel Antonio >> Sexy Isra >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
battery life
For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from a full charge using vo? Thanx, John Carty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: battery life
with my new 13 inch macbook pro i get about 6 hours. On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from > a full charge using vo? > > Thanx, > > John Carty > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: battery life
Turn the screen down to zero if you don't need it you'll get longer that way - Original Message - From: chris polk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 7:12 PM Subject: Re: battery life with my new 13 inch macbook pro i get about 6 hours. On Oct 27, 2009, at 12:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote: For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from a full charge using vo? Thanx, John Carty --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: battery life
John, I have gotten over six hours without any problem. A lot will depend upon what you are doing. I left my machine streaming audio while I was working on other things. On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from > a full charge using vo? > > Thanx, > > John Carty > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Jessi Hernandez Contact me Please
Jessi, can you please write me at scottn3...@gmail.com regarding MobileNavigator, which I understand you have purchased. Apparently the e-mail address I tried for you did not work. :) THanks, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dice Rolling Porgram and OV.
Hi, I have a few card games that require dice rolls. Does anyone know if ther is an application that works with VO? Thanks, Jesse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ISpectrum for the IPhone
Folks, has anyone tried the color identifier called iSpectrum, which is for the iPhone? I happen to see this app on the Maccessibility.net site and was wondering how accurate it is. Thanks, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
twitter clients for the iphone on the latest screnless switchers
HI all. On the latest screenless switchers, we are joined by Steve Sawczyn and Justin romack to discuss 9 twitter related apps for the iphone/ipod touch. We demo them as well as talk about their strengths and weaknesses. Check out screenless switchers episode 35 at http://www.screenlessswitchers.com Holly --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dice Rolling Porgram and OV.
Dunno about apps but there are a number of web pages which can do it: http://www.random.org/dice/ http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/ CB Jesse Bollinger wrote: > Hi, > > I have a few card games that require dice rolls. Does anyone know if > ther is an application that works with VO? > > Thanks, > > Jesse > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Volume Issue
What login screen? I don't have a login screen come up when i turn on the computer it just goes to the apple logo screen and then to the desktop. On Oct 27, 6:14 am, Scott Howell wrote: > When you are at the login screen, turn the volume to the level you'd > like it to be and all should be well. This works for the Intel-based > machines and not the G4/G5 series as far as I have been able to > determine. > On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Angel wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > I am having trouble with my volume whenI turn my computer on each > > morning the volume is all the way up. I know at night before I turn > > the computer off the volume was on low. How can I stop it from > > increasing my volume to max when I turn it off? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Volume Issue
Ah, sorry, I thought perhaps you ran in a multi-user configuration. You could accomplish the same thing by lowering the volume before you turn off the machine. THe problem is when you go directly into your account upon boot up, your volume setting is retained at the setting you last used the machine. I have multiple accounts for testing etc. so I can set the volume, rate of speech, etc. while at the login screen and thus the startup chime can be cranked way down. Now if you use headphones, you could reduce the volume to a pretty low level and retain a different volume for the headphones. THis would also accomplish your goal. Good luck, On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Angel Dockham wrote: > > What login screen? I don't have a login screen come up when i turn on > the computer it just goes to the apple logo screen and then to the > desktop. > > On Oct 27, 6:14 am, Scott Howell wrote: >> When you are at the login screen, turn the volume to the level you'd >> like it to be and all should be well. This works for the Intel-based >> machines and not the G4/G5 series as far as I have been able to >> determine. >> On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Angel wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Guys, >> >>> I am having trouble with my volume whenI turn my computer on each >>> morning the volume is all the way up. I know at night before I turn >>> the computer off the volume was on low. How can I stop it from >>> increasing my volume to max when I turn it off? > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Accessible iPod Touch
Of the thoudands of emails messages I read a month, this is the best I've read in years. GREAT job. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mark, > > M AUSTEN wrote: > > > I am registered Blind and have been asked to investigate the accessibility > of the iPod Touch for Blind and Partially sighted visitors to museums in the > UK. > > So the question is has anyone with sight loss had any success using the > iPod Touch and are there any downloadable Apps? > > Many thanks, > > Mark > Audio Guide Auditor > Alternative Design > > > You could probably get more extensive responses from the roughly 350 > members of the VIPhone list: > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone > > However, the answer to your question is that the iPod Touch is usable by > the visually impaired. For more background specifically on the iPod Touch, > you can check the most recent Screenless Switchers podcast and the Serotalk > podcasts from mid-September and mid-October, or the latest Mac-cessibility > podcast. Also, check the archived list post on Podcasts and resources about > VoiceOver on the iPhone and iPod Touch: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg10679.html > > Incidentally, Serotek released an iPhone/iPod touch app aimed at the > visaully impaired (i Blink Radio), and reported over a thousand downloads. > > You don't mention what type of museums you're targeting (art museums?, the > British Museum?) or whether the type of envisioned use is similar to simple > podcast downloads. The most extensive effort I'm aware of by art museums > to offer work for the blind was by the Metropolitan Museum of Art, which > released several downloadable podcasts describing artwork in their > collection some years ago. See, for example, the description in this > article on "Art for the Blind": > > http://www.artagogo.com/commentary/artforblind/artforblind.htm > > Since your question I checked a few museum apps on the iPod Touch. (These > are limited to apps that either are currently free, or were free earlier and > downloaded to an iPod Touch that I could check; download links at iTunes app > store follow each entry): > > • Love Art: National Gallery, London by Antenna Audio, Inc. (was free, > currently $2.99) > > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=314566159&mt=8 > This seems to be entirely accessible. Note that if you want to interrupt > the spoken dialogs midstream you have to double-tap anywhere on the screen > to get the "back arrow", and you may need to actually touch the back arrow > at the upper left with split tap or double tap to navigate back to the > previous screen. (Not necessary if the dialog has finished speaking - just > double-tap anywhere if the "Back arrow" has focus). > > • Yours, Vincent The Letters of Vincent Van Gogh by Antenna Audio, Inc. > (free) > > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=334681106&mt=8 > This app is also entirely accessible. Since it provides biographical > information about the life of Vincent van Gogh, including dramatic readings > of his letters, that is meant to supplement the information in the exhibits > of the van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, this works better as an app for the > visually impaired than the National Gallery app, which talks about the > subject of artwork without descriptive context. The Metropolitan Museum of > Art's older podcasts were the only ones that I felt were truly designed for > the totally blind -- explaining theme, layout, the unique qualities of the > artist, etc. > > • Rick Steves' Orsay Museum Tour by Ubermind, Inc. (was free, now $4.99) > > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=318764321&mt=8 > The Info button (General information, museum hours, how to get there, free > entry times, museum pass, etc.) is a simple list, and the pages of info are > accessible. The main tour entry for this app is not accessible. The app > opens on a page labeled "Points of Interest" with two buttons (Info and List > View). The List View just "boinks" (no response), even with a pass-through > gesture. If you toggle VoiceOver off, you can touch the screen and select > from the list view, but you wont know which entry is being selected. These > pages are read by VoiceOver , but there appear to be embedded recording > buttons which are not found when you flick through. Also, the button to > return to previous screen is announced as "map view", which suggests the > navigation is designed for a visual interface. > > • I couldn't find a free app for the British Museum. There's one for $4.99 > by Way2GoGuides (London: British Museum Guide & Audio). I tried out the free > app: "London Highlights" by the same company. It's only partly accessible. > Movie/audio links work, but selecting a link, like "The Rosetta Stone" just > gave a page with no VoiceOver readable content. The embedded links are just > announced as "link" as you flick through, but they d
Re: Volume Issue
If you passeord protect your mac a log in screen appears. On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Angel Dockham < fairytaledreamzad...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What login screen? I don't have a login screen come up when i turn on > the computer it just goes to the apple logo screen and then to the > desktop. > > On Oct 27, 6:14 am, Scott Howell wrote: > > When you are at the login screen, turn the volume to the level you'd > > like it to be and all should be well. This works for the Intel-based > > machines and not the G4/G5 series as far as I have been able to > > determine. > > On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Angel wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > I am having trouble with my volume whenI turn my computer on each > > > morning the volume is all the way up. I know at night before I turn > > > the computer off the volume was on low. How can I stop it from > > > increasing my volume to max when I turn it off? > > > -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
slight accessibility issue with fusion 3
Hi listers, Having just acquired fusion 3, I thought I would pass my experiences along with voiceover. For the most part, everything remains accessible. However, when running and using your virtual machine, there is no longer a scroll area. Thus, you cannot VO to the area and start using the keyboard to control the VM. Instead, it is necessary to highlight the virtual machine window, turn voiceover off, and hit command plus G to direct input to the virtual machine. After this, turn voiceover back on, and everything works as expected. Note: I seem to have a similar problem even when running win XP in full screen mode. Voiceover does not seem to yield keyboard control initially to the virtual machine. To fix this, turn VO off when you highlight your virtual machine window for the first time. Next, turn it on again, and everything works from there on out. Note: You can even command tab to other applications, and when you come back, the keyboard will control your virtual machine as expected. Kind of quirky, but it works just fine and seems to be a bit faster than version 2 as well. Hth John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Volume Issue
The thing is the volume is turned way down when i turn off the machine and when i start it back up the volume is all the way up again. On Oct 27, 4:53 pm, Scott Howell wrote: > Ah, sorry, I thought perhaps you ran in a multi-user configuration. > You could accomplish the same thing by lowering the volume before you > turn off the machine. THe problem is when you go directly into your > account upon boot up, your volume setting is retained at the setting > you last used the machine. I have multiple accounts for testing etc. > so I can set the volume, rate of speech, etc. while at the login > screen and thus the startup chime can be cranked way down. Now if you > use headphones, you could reduce the volume to a pretty low level and > retain a different volume for the headphones. THis would also > accomplish your goal. > > Good luck, > On Oct 27, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Angel Dockham wrote: > > > > > > > What login screen? I don't have a login screen come up when i turn on > > the computer it just goes to the apple logo screen and then to the > > desktop. > > > On Oct 27, 6:14 am, Scott Howell wrote: > >> When you are at the login screen, turn the volume to the level you'd > >> like it to be and all should be well. This works for the Intel-based > >> machines and not the G4/G5 series as far as I have been able to > >> determine. > >> On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:09 AM, Angel wrote: > > >>> Hi Guys, > > >>> I am having trouble with my volume whenI turn my computer on each > >>> morning the volume is all the way up. I know at night before I turn > >>> the computer off the volume was on low. How can I stop it from > >>> increasing my volume to max when I turn it off? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: -- SPAM -- slight accessibility issue with fusion 3
Ok a dumb question: By highlight the window do you mean go to it with vo or something else? On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:32 PM, John J Herzog wrote: > > Hi listers, > Having just acquired fusion 3, I thought I would pass my experiences > along with voiceover. For the most part, everything remains > accessible. However, when running and using your virtual machine, > there is no longer a scroll area. Thus, you cannot VO to the area and > start using the keyboard to control the VM. Instead, it is necessary > to highlight the virtual machine window, turn voiceover off, and hit > command plus G to direct input to the virtual machine. After this, > turn voiceover back on, and everything works as expected. > Note: I seem to have a similar problem even when running win XP in > full screen mode. Voiceover does not seem to yield keyboard control > initially to the virtual machine. To fix this, turn VO off when you > highlight your virtual machine window for the first time. Next, turn > it on again, and everything works from there on out. Note: You can > even command tab to other applications, and when you come back, the > keyboard will control your virtual machine as expected. > Kind of quirky, but it works just fine and seems to be a bit faster > than version 2 as well. > > Hth > > John > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problem with mail account
Hi, If you select the connect button, does it work? If so then it might be something on there end. Matthew On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have encountered an issue with anew mail account I created, and > wondered if someone might know what's going on. When I log into Mail, > I get an error message for this particular account that the > certificate cannot be verified, and am prompted to either connect or > cancel. Is there any way to make this go away? > Thanks, > Donna > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
not spam, possibly helpful? : was: Re: -- SPAM -- slight accessibility issue with fusion 3
Hi, When I say highlight, I mean command tab. So, if you move focus away from VMware fusion, you can then turn voiceover off, command tab to the full window of your VM, and everything should run fine. Alternatively, when running voiceover, and with your VM window in focus, hit VO shift space to click on the window. This also appears to relinquish control from voiceover to the virtual machine itself. BTW, why was this message classified as spam? It is directly on the topic of accessibility. On Oct 27, 2009, at 9:15 PM, David McLean wrote: > > Ok a dumb question: By highlight the window do you mean go to it with > vo or something else? > On Oct 27, 2009, at 6:32 PM, John J Herzog wrote: > >> >> Hi listers, >> Having just acquired fusion 3, I thought I would pass my experiences >> along with voiceover. For the most part, everything remains >> accessible. However, when running and using your virtual machine, >> there is no longer a scroll area. Thus, you cannot VO to the area and >> start using the keyboard to control the VM. Instead, it is necessary >> to highlight the virtual machine window, turn voiceover off, and hit >> command plus G to direct input to the virtual machine. After this, >> turn voiceover back on, and everything works as expected. >> Note: I seem to have a similar problem even when running win XP in >> full screen mode. Voiceover does not seem to yield keyboard control >> initially to the virtual machine. To fix this, turn VO off when you >> highlight your virtual machine window for the first time. Next, turn >> it on again, and everything works from there on out. Note: You can >> even command tab to other applications, and when you come back, the >> keyboard will control your virtual machine as expected. >> Kind of quirky, but it works just fine and seems to be a bit faster >> than version 2 as well. >> >> Hth >> >> John >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: battery life
i have timed it at 7.5 hours on average. I was using mail surfing for data on the web and making a playlist out of my library. i was able to run it for a hair over 9 hours with screen curtain on and only playing music via itunes. If It is a mbp 13" with the 253 processor. Pete On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:09 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > For those of you using laptops, how long does the battery last from > a full charge using vo? > > Thanx, > > John Carty > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMac unstable after coming out of sleep mode
Hi everyone. I have had my iMac for a little over a month now and am on the latest version of everything. Sometimes, I notice that when I hit the control key to wake my iMac up, it will be a little unstable for a while. For example, sometimes the first app I run after the wakeup process will crash, and I notice that Voiceover will often sound choppy and even restart after a few seconds. After that, everything settles down and works fine. I know that on my Windows machines, I always disabled sleep mode because of similar behavior. As this is a new iMac, should I be concerned about this? Do any of you disable sleep mode? Would it help to turn the computer totally off instead of using sleep mode? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, as I am a recent switcher. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
