Re: How to read entire article on web page.
Hello Kevin, > Yes, you can start from a particular point and read to the end of a > web page. It's easiest if you have all your cursors tracking one > another: > > • Find the point from which you wish to start (it must not be a link); > • Click 3 times with the physical mouse; > • Move to end (VO-Shift-End), it must not be a link; > • Hold down Shift key and click with the physical mouse: > • Use the Start Speaking Text command. > > It's quite quick to do when you get used to it, but it's best to > have set a shortcut for Start Speaking Text. > > Cheers, > > Anne On Oct 11, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > guys, > I'm cruising around on my wife's Mac, an original Power PC > Powerbook. this runs Leopard, not SL. When I choose a link with VO > Space bar, I always get sent to the top of the new page and have to > VO right arrow several times to get to the body of the article I > wish to read. In addition, I can't simply execute a command to read > the entire article in one pass. the best I can do is get the > article to read one paragraph at a time using the VO right arrow. > VO A, VO P, VO S, all seem to do the same thing. Also, when I am > reading, if there's a link in the paragraph, Voiceover will stop and > I have to VO right arrow again to get it "over the hump" of the link > and continue reading. How can I simply get Voiceover to read an > entire article without stopping, regardless of the presence of links > and other obstructions. I've tried both Dom and Group mode in VO > utility. Is there some other setting I need to use so that when I > choose a link to a story on, say, Huffington Post or CNN, I'm sent > immediately to the body of the article without having to read > through all the redundant links on the new page?I guess I'm looking > for the equivalents to the use of the letter n in JAWS to skip to > html content. > Thanks, > Kevin > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
Hi list, I've decided that i wanted to start using my fluency in jaanese to communicate with, well, japanese individuals :) Can anyone give me some pointers on the use of japanese, as it seems relatively difficult? Is it just a matter of having the local setttings installed on the system, then acquiring the voice, or is there other factors i need to consider? thanks for some clarification, and best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
there is no japanese chinise, or other similar voice for the mac, though. On the IPhone there is japanese but not with the mac os x On 11 Oct 2009, at 08:44, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi list, > > I've decided that i wanted to start using my fluency in jaanese to > communicate with, well, japanese individuals :) > > Can anyone give me some pointers on the use of japanese, as it seems > relatively difficult? Is it just a matter of having the local > setttings installed on the system, then acquiring the voice, or is > there other factors i need to consider? > > thanks for some clarification, and best > > Yuma > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
Hi william, There is a japanese voice available on http://www.cereproc.com/products/voices The japanese voice has been made in collaboration, and if tyou go around, there is also a obama and arnold voice. best Yuma --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
is there chinese, to? On 11 Oct 2009, at 09:01, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi william, > > There is a japanese voice available on > > http://www.cereproc.com/products/voices > > The japanese voice has been made in collaboration, and if tyou go > around, there is also a obama and arnold voice. > > best > > Yuma > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
ah wow thank you for this! On 11 Oct 2009, at 09:01, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > Hi william, > > There is a japanese voice available on > > http://www.cereproc.com/products/voices > > The japanese voice has been made in collaboration, and if tyou go > around, there is also a obama and arnold voice. > > best > > Yuma > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: voice over bug report web site url
Send a mail message to: accessibil...@apple.com Hth, Portia. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:42 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voice over bug report web site url Hi Rhonda, You could send a mail message to accessibil...@mac.com of bugs that you encounter. Rhonda Hornbacher wrote: > > To what url do I send voice over bug reports to? Cheers, Esther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
problems with http://www.cereproc.com/store voices
Hi all, has anyone purchased a voice, for their mac from this copany: http://www.cereproc.com/store When I highlight the license number and paste into the window where it is required it says no text entered? Will --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
I have mine se to single page continuous which I thought would result in PDF files reading the entire document? Les Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set PDF > display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus are > sometimes acting up a bit. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes > > back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read > > it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. > > Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling and > > I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, > > now that it isn't doing it. > > > > Regards, > > Nic > > On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview prior > >> to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I can > >> tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first > >> page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift-Tab > >> back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not > >> activate > >> the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down arrow. > >> Any help appreciated. > >> > >> Les > >> >> > > > > Skype: Kvalme > > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > > AIM: cincinster > > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > > Facebook: Profile > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: problems with http://www.cereproc.com/store voices
Hi, I would test it, but my country isn't added to the list of possible choices, even though the closest countries to me are. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:24 PM, william lomas wrote: > > Hi all, has anyone purchased a voice, for their mac from this copany: > > http://www.cereproc.com/store > > When I highlight the license number and paste into the window where it > is required it says no text entered? > Will > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Hi, It does. Only problem seems to be that, when you want to read just one chapter, and you highlight it, if interacting to go down VoiceOver jumps to top. At least, in my case. Searching, maybe? Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > I have mine se to single page continuous which I thought would result > in PDF files reading the entire document? > > Les > > Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set PDF >> display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus are >> sometimes acting up a bit. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes >>> back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read >>> it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. >>> Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling and >>> I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, >>> now that it isn't doing it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview prior to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I can tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift- Tab back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not activate the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down arrow. Any help appreciated. Les >> >>> >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook: Profile >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro >>> > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: japanese local settings keyboard and voice over
Hi Yuma, According to the Multilingual Mac's summary of Snow Leopard, VoiceOver is able to handle all 18 system languages, but only English is provided by Apple. See: http://m10lmac.blogspot.com/ under the entry for "OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard): New Language Features" item number 6. Historically, there was an early version of Japanese that was offered through Assistiveware's Visiovoice under Tiger (OS X version 10.4). Visiovoice gave Tiger users who wanted the kind of language/voice support that you have in Leopard (for example, the ability to bring up your system speaking in French), an alternative to the English-only VoiceOver. You purchased the voices from Acapela -- the same Infovox iVox voices you are using now under Leopard/Snow Leopard with VoiceOver. For Japanese, which came in a Visiovoice 1.1 release, the voice used was by DTalker for Mac OS X. That web site for the DTalker 3.0 Japanese voices is in Japanese: http://www.createsystem.co.jp/dtalkerMacOSX.html but you can try running it through the Google Translate pages to get something that VoiceOver will read. As of Leopard, you shouldn't need to get Visiovoice if you are using VoiceOver, although Visiovoice does offer other features like additional cursor support reading options for low vision users, and easy switching between different language voices, etc. Here's a link to my post from last year in the archives about the status of oriental voices for the Mac that discusses a few other related issues: http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss540macvisionaries.com/msg45495.html (Oriental voices for the Mac, VoiceOver, and language learning) The potential VoiceOver accessibility issue of switching to a non- Roman input keyboard is that, if you can't switch back to a Roman letter based input keyboard with a simple keyboard shortcut, your keyboard shortcut inputs won't be understood by VoiceOver. I think that you're best off using TextEdit, which can speak the non-English characters as you type or input them even when no other app will announce these characters. (This works even if you don't have the voice for that language -- it's how I figure out what accents may be present on foreign language input keyboards even though I don't have voices for that language). Even if you have a voice for a language with non-Roman character inputs (like Greek or Russian), you may find it easier to send what you're reading on a web page to TextEdit, because you'll have better control of the navigation through the text. You can change the voice to the other language, but still maintained keyboard control in VoiceOver with your familiar keyboard. This may not be an issue with Japanese, but it's certainly an issue for Russian and the Cyrillic alphabet. For Japanese, you could navigate to the Text Input menu on the status menu bar (VO-M twice or Control-F8, then arrow over to Text Input) and press "O" to go to the "Open International Menu" item in the menu. On the Input Menu tab of the International menu, navigate to the table, interact, and check the box for "Japanese Kana Palette" with VO-Space on the second row of the table, then close the window with Command-W. Now, if you open a window in TextEdit, you can navigate to the Text Input Menu on the menu bar and press "S" to go to the "Show Japanese Kana Palette" menu option. Since this is window may be labeled with non-Roman characters. VoiceOver won't announce it when you bring up Window Chooser menu (VO-F2 twice), but you can select it by arrowing down to the silent option. If you navigate the Japanese Kana Palette with VO-arrow keys, you'll hear "Hiragana letter a", "Katakana letter a", "A" for the three tabs. If you navigate to the tabs you'll hear each letter announced and can select it with VO-Space. There are also keys for delete, space, etc. When you want to close the Japanese Kana Palette window, use your VO-arrow keys to navigate to the close button and press it with VO-Space, or else, navigate back to the Text Input Menu on the menu bar and press "H" or arrow down to "Hide Japanese Kana Palette" in the menu. You have to close or hide the palette menu this way, because the input window of TextEdit is the window that would get closed if you used Command-W since it has focus for entry. The palette should let you compose letters and switch to English input with the third tab, too. It can be used to input into Mail, too, but my experience with non-Roman characters is that VoiceOver won't read these back to you unless you're in TextEdit, so I can copy and paste the content between TextEdit and Mail, but the content won't get announced in Mail if I'm using an English language localization. (I haven't tried changing my account over to Russian -- not sure I could maintain control of VoiceOver or type with any proficiency on a Russian input keyboard). I don't speak Japa
Re: How to read entire article on web page.
What you are describing is what I found most frustrating when I made the switch to the Mac. Thankfully, it became a jillion times easier, at least on well-written Web sites, once I upgraded to Snow Leopard. (I recognize that that is not an option for you at present on the computer you are using.) The Web Item Rotor under SL allows you to zip to a heading in a flash. Once you determine how a site is set up, you can generally get to the top of the piece you are trying to read quite easily and then just do a VO-a to read from there. I use this all the time on news sites I visit -- The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal -- with ease; I suspect CNN and others are set up to make use of heading similarly. Until SL, however, the item chooser can be yourfriend. Especially if you are looking for the top of a piece with a bbyline: Just pop up the item chooser -- VO-i -- type "by" and you'll likely be just a line or two below the headline. I cannot recall if VO-a will then work, but you should give it a try. -- Howard On Oct 11, 2:29 am, "Kevin Gibbs" wrote: > guys, > I'm cruising around on my wife's Mac, an original Power PC Powerbook. > this runs Leopard, not SL. When I choose a link with VO Space bar, I always > get sent to the top of the new page and have to VO right arrow several times > to get to the body of the article I wish to read. In addition, I can't > simply execute a command to read the entire article in one pass. the best I > can do is get the article to read one paragraph at a time using the VO right > arrow. VO A, VO P, VO S, all seem to do the same thing. Also, when I am > reading, if there's a link in the paragraph, Voiceover will stop and I have > to VO right arrow again to get it "over the hump" of the link and continue > reading. How can I simply get Voiceover to read an entire article without > stopping, regardless of the presence of links and other obstructions. I've > tried both Dom and Group mode in VO utility. Is there some other setting I > need to use so that when I choose a link to a story on, say, Huffington Post > or CNN, I'm sent immediately to the body of the article without having to > read through all the redundant links on the new page?I guess I'm looking for > the equivalents to the use of the letter n in JAWS to skip to html content. > Thanks, > Kevin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Nic, I interact with the table of content, and when I reach the chapter heading I want to read, I perform the click with vo+shift +spacebar and then stop interacting and vo+left arrow once and I usually am at the top of the page where my chapter begins. The only thing I noticed then is sometimes VO won't read the entire content of the chapter, or at least I suspect that sometimes it stops before the end. I also noticed that in when I try to read in this way and try to interact with the text in order to read slowly line by line, by interacting with the text I seem to be thrown to the beginning of the entire book as you describe. Best wishes, Simon On 11 Oct 2009, at 11:44, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > It does. Only problem seems to be that, when you want to read just one > chapter, and you highlight it, if interacting to go down VoiceOver > jumps to top. At least, in my case. Searching, maybe? > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook: Profile > Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > >> >> I have mine se to single page continuous which I thought would result >> in PDF files reading the entire document? >> >> Les >> >> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set PDF >>> display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus are >>> sometimes acting up a bit. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling and I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, now that it isn't doing it. Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > > Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview > prior > to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I > can > tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the first > page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift- > Tab > back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not > activate > the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down > arrow. > Any help appreciated. > > Les >>> Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just purchased software DJ3
hi; can you guys give me the directions for how to interact with the turn tables on this software, with my multi touch trackpad on this mbp? mike On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hi list, i did get a reply from algoriddim about the missing scratch > feature with voice over > > Here is the reply, i think it can be good as they did take the time > to look into it > > best > > Yuma > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: algoriddim Support >> Date: October 4, 2009 7:39:03 AM GMT+07:00 >> To: Yuma Antoine Decaux >> Subject: Re: Just purchased software >> >> Hi Yuma, >> >> thanks for the feedback, we will look into it and try to fix the >> problem. >> >> Amanda >> >> Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: >>> Hello, I've just purchased DJ3, and would like to thank you for this release. Its a great toy to have for either home parties or for making mixes on the fly with voice on. I I would like to know if you have heard of voice over. It is a screen reading software integrated in the mac os which visually impaired use. here is the link to apple's section on accessibility www.apple.com/accessibility I have checked DJ3 for myself, and i have difficulties reaching the turntables. Actually, i cannot access it with voice over. Would it be a possibility to make hotspots to the two turntables available so that VO users can directly get to the turntables and enjoy the scratching feature? Your software is making a buzz on several VI lists, and the only thing which is not accessible are the turntable scratches. The rest works perfectly and are a pleasure to manipulate. Thank you for your attention, and kindest regards Yuma Decaux >>> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How to read entire article on web page.
Hi, I know this is not an option for you under leopard but one of the new features of Snow Leopard is the web spots. When on a page there is a command vo plus command plus n. This jumps to spots on a page that voiceover detects as significant. It helps me out quite a bit. It often will bring me right to the meat of the web page. Then there is a command to read from where the voice cursor is to the end of the page, which can be used once you get to the article or text of interest. The go to next heading is helpful as well and I believe is available in leopard. However, I'm not sure as I did not learn of this until I joined this group and I already had SL. This jumps you right to headings. The rotor in SL is also a huge help in jumping to certain spots on a web page. I love the rotor. I know the information I gave you isn't necessarily helpful to you with leopard. I just wanted to pass it along if you were considering an upgrade or a new computer. HTH, Christina On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:29 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > guys, > I'm cruising around on my wife's Mac, an original Power PC > Powerbook. this runs Leopard, not SL. When I choose a link with VO > Space bar, I always get sent to the top of the new page and have to > VO right arrow several times to get to the body of the article I > wish to read. In addition, I can't simply execute a command to read > the entire article in one pass. the best I can do is get the > article to read one paragraph at a time using the VO right arrow. > VO A, VO P, VO S, all seem to do the same thing. Also, when I am > reading, if there's a link in the paragraph, Voiceover will stop and > I have to VO right arrow again to get it "over the hump" of the link > and continue reading. How can I simply get Voiceover to read an > entire article without stopping, regardless of the presence of links > and other obstructions. I've tried both Dom and Group mode in VO > utility. Is there some other setting I need to use so that when I > choose a link to a story on, say, Huffington Post or CNN, I'm sent > immediately to the body of the article without having to read > through all the redundant links on the new page?I guess I'm looking > for the equivalents to the use of the letter n in JAWS to skip to > html content. > Thanks, > Kevin > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Hi, I would try that, if I wasn't having severe issues with the mouse tracking in general. While I always have it on, it sometimes doesn't track properly. Even if I do VO-Command-F5, to move it to the VoiceOver cursor, it still stays in the other window (Skype in this case). I can't figure out why it does that. I have the same issues on occasion with keyboard focus. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Nic, I interact with the table of content, and when I reach the > chapter heading I want to read, I perform the click with vo+shift > +spacebar and then stop interacting and vo+left arrow once and I > usually am at the top of the page where my chapter begins. The only > thing I noticed then is sometimes VO won't read the entire content of > the chapter, or at least I suspect that sometimes it stops before the > end. I also noticed that in when I try to read in this way and try to > interact with the text in order to read slowly line by line, by > interacting with the text I seem to be thrown to the beginning of the > entire book as you describe. > > Best wishes, Simon > On 11 Oct 2009, at 11:44, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> >> It does. Only problem seems to be that, when you want to read just >> one >> chapter, and you highlight it, if interacting to go down VoiceOver >> jumps to top. At least, in my case. Searching, maybe? >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook: Profile >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro >> >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >>> >>> I have mine se to single page continuous which I thought would >>> result >>> in PDF files reading the entire document? >>> >>> Les >>> >>> Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set PDF display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus are sometimes acting up a bit. Regards, Nic On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes > back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you read > it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at once. > Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling > and > I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really annoying, > now that it isn't doing it. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > >> >> Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview >> prior >> to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view and I >> can >> tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the >> first >> page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then Shift- >> Tab >> back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not >> activate >> the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down >> arrow. >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Les > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook: Profile > Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro > >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Just purchased software DJ3
Hi, I'm tempted to purchase this software as well. I seem to recall a thread that mentioned specifically being able to scratch with the trackpad. What do people without a trackpad do in this case? I know you can certainly use an iPhone as a trackpad, but if you don't have one, you could run into a bit of trouble. Does anyone know if it's possible? I do have a trackpad, but I'm mainly concerned for those who do not. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook: Profile Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:41 PM, michael A. Babcock wrote: > hi; > can you guys give me the directions for how to interact with the > turn tables on this software, with my multi touch trackpad on this > mbp? > mike > > On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > >> Hi list, i did get a reply from algoriddim about the missing >> scratch feature with voice over >> >> Here is the reply, i think it can be good as they did take the time >> to look into it >> >> best >> >> Yuma >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: algoriddim Support >>> Date: October 4, 2009 7:39:03 AM GMT+07:00 >>> To: Yuma Antoine Decaux >>> Subject: Re: Just purchased software >>> >>> Hi Yuma, >>> >>> thanks for the feedback, we will look into it and try to fix the >>> problem. >>> >>> Amanda >>> >>> Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > Hello, > > I've just purchased DJ3, and would like to thank you for this > release. Its a great toy to have for either home parties or for > making mixes on the fly with voice on. > > I I would like to know if you have heard of voice over. It is a > screen reading software integrated in the mac os which visually > impaired use. > > here is the link to apple's section on accessibility > > www.apple.com/accessibility > > I have checked DJ3 for myself, and i have difficulties reaching > the turntables. Actually, i cannot access it with voice over. > Would it be a possibility to make hotspots to the two turntables > available so that VO users can directly get to the turntables > and enjoy the scratching feature? > > Your software is making a buzz on several VI lists, and the only > thing which is not accessible are the turntable scratches. The > rest works perfectly and are a pleasure to manipulate. > > Thank you for your attention, and kindest regards > > Yuma Decaux >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
using an itunes gift card?
Hi all, I have an Itunes card that I need to use soon or it will expire. But, when I go into Itunes, I can't see any place to enter a card number or anything. Can someone explain how to do this? thanks, Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: using an itunes gift card?
Hi Donna, When you're in the iTunes HTML area use item chooser menu to look for a link to "Redeem". Activate the link with VO-Space and you'll be taken to a page where you can type or paste in the number. You'll be in the edit field, so you can just type in the numbers and press return (without getting the VoiceOver prompts). If that bothers you, you can navigate to the HTML area and interact, then as you move through the page you'll hear: "Redeem Code, Have an iTunes Gift Card, Gift Certificate or other iTunes code? Enter it exactly as it appears." and you can VO-Right arrow from there onto the text edit field. Similarly, you can VO-Right arrow to the buttons for "Cancel" and "Redeem" and press the "Redeem" button with VO-Space instead of just pressing return after typing the code into the textbox. HTH Cheers, Esther Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have an Itunes card that I need to use soon or it will expire. But, > when I go into Itunes, I can't see any place to enter a card number or > anything. Can someone explain how to do this? > thanks, > Donna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ITunes U course on iPhone Application Programming [was Re: iphone app creation}
Hi Max, I have no knowledge of what it's like to write an iPhone app and this is not something I'd be likely to try. That said, one of the most popular iTunes U downloads has been the Stanford University course on iPhone Application Programming. Here's the address at the iTunes Store: http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/itunes.stanford.edu.2024353965.02024599579 There are downloads for both the video lectures in the series and PDF files for the teaching slides that are used in each lecture, so be sure you use item chooser menu to find and press (VO-Space) the tabs for both the Video downloads and the PDF notes downloads. Rather than simply subscribing to the whole course -- since 23 hour-long video lectures in particular can take up a substantial amount of disk space -- I would try selecting the first one or two lectures for downloading. I took a quick look at the first lecture and the course description in the HTML area. The pre-requisites are that you have knowledge of the C programming language and a previous programming course. So I'd say that this is doable for someone with fairly modest programming background, but probably not for someone with no previous programming background. Here are the course description and prerequisites pasted from the HTML area: Description: Tools and APIs required to build applications for the iPhone platform using the iPhone SDK. User interface designs for mobile devices and unique user interactions using multitouch technologies. Object- oriented design using model-view-controller pattern, memory management, Objective-C programming language. iPhone APIs and tools including Xcode, Interface Builder and Instruments on Mac OS X. Other topics include: core animation, bonjour networking, mobile device power management and performance considerations. Prerequisites: C language and programming experience at the level of 106B or X. Recommended: UNIX, object-oriented programming, graphical toolkits Note that the first lecture spends a lot of time on the administrative arrangements and introducing the instructors (ex-Stanford grads now working at Apple) before starting in on the material. They use the Apple SDK and documentations for the text, so the only absolute requirement (apart from knowledge for the pre-requisites and working with C) is having an Intel Mac to run the exercises on. HTH. Cheers, Esther Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > > Hello group; Has anyone tried writing an iphone application yet? If > so, what was the process like? Is it something anyone can do, or does > it take a lot of programming knowledge. I'm asking because a friend > suggesting creating an app to promote my website. She also said that > by creating the app it would make it easier on people viewing my site > on their iphone. As a large part of my web traffic is from people > using their cell phones, I'd really like to try this and would love > even more not making some one elses mistakes. I'll appreciate any > help i can get. Thanks in advance, Max > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ITunes U course on iPhone Application Programming [was Re: iphone app creation}
A quick addition: the iTunes Store pages for iTunes U downloadable podcasts and PDF files under iTunes 9 still have the structure that podcasts had in iTunes 8, so there is a list view table of podcast entries and PDF files that is like the songs table lists in your our library -- they're not in the HTML area. That's why you need to select tabs for the PDF files or for the video files when in the HTML area for the Stanford University page on iPhone Application Programming. The tab you select determines whether video files of each class or PDF files of the slides that were shown appear in the listed entries when you stop interacting with the HTML area and VO- Down Arrow to the listed items. As always, you can use the context menu (VO-Shift-M) to select the option to download. HTH Cheers, Esther Esther wrote: > > Hi Max, > > I have no knowledge of what it's like to write an iPhone app and this > is not something I'd be likely to try. That said, one of the most > popular iTunes U downloads has been the Stanford University course on > iPhone Application Programming. Here's the address at the iTunes > Store: > > http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/itunes.stanford.edu.2024353965.02024599579 > > There are downloads for both the video lectures in the series and PDF > files for the teaching slides that are used in each lecture, so be > sure you use item chooser menu to find and press (VO-Space) the tabs > for both the Video downloads and the PDF notes downloads. Rather than > simply subscribing to the whole course -- since 23 hour-long video > lectures in particular can take up a substantial amount of disk space > -- I would try selecting the first one or two lectures for > downloading. I took a quick look at the first lecture and the course > description in the HTML area. The pre-requisites are that you have > knowledge of the C programming language and a previous programming > course. So I'd say that this is doable for someone with fairly modest > programming background, but probably not for someone with no previous > programming background. Here are the course description and > prerequisites pasted from the HTML area: > > > Description: > > Tools and APIs required to build applications for the iPhone platform > using the iPhone SDK. User interface designs for mobile devices and > unique user interactions using multitouch technologies. Object- > oriented design using model-view-controller pattern, memory > management, Objective-C programming language. iPhone APIs and tools > including Xcode, Interface Builder and Instruments on Mac OS X. Other > topics include: core animation, bonjour networking, mobile device > power management and performance considerations. > > Prerequisites: C language and programming experience at the level of > 106B or X. Recommended: UNIX, object-oriented programming, graphical > toolkits > > > Note that the first lecture spends a lot of time on the administrative > arrangements and introducing the instructors (ex-Stanford grads now > working at Apple) before starting in on the material. They use the > Apple SDK and documentations for the text, so the only absolute > requirement (apart from knowledge for the pre-requisites and working > with C) is having an Intel Mac to run the exercises on. > > HTH. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > >> >> Hello group; Has anyone tried writing an iphone application yet? If >> so, what was the process like? Is it something anyone can do, or >> does >> it take a lot of programming knowledge. I'm asking because a friend >> suggesting creating an app to promote my website. She also said that >> by creating the app it would make it easier on people viewing my site >> on their iphone. As a large part of my web traffic is from people >> using their cell phones, I'd really like to try this and would love >> even more not making some one elses mistakes. I'll appreciate any >> help i can get. Thanks in advance, Max >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ITunes U course on iPhone Application Programming [was Re: iphone app creation}
Hello; Thanks for that. When i signed up at the developers page, they have a link to a introductory video, but half the time it locks up. I listened to the first two parts before that happened. I've tried going to it again with no luck. I'll try this link. I'm not sure i want to do it either, but i have some friends who want me to at least try. I did write the accessiblity desk to see what if anything they could tell me about the sdk being accessible with voiceover or not. The editing is done on the apple computer with an emulater to test your work, or obviously i wouldn't even try. Thanks again, Max On Oct 11, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Max, > > I have no knowledge of what it's like to write an iPhone app and this > is not something I'd be likely to try. That said, one of the most > popular iTunes U downloads has been the Stanford University course on > iPhone Application Programming. Here's the address at the iTunes > Store: > > http://deimos3.apple.com/WebObjects/Core.woa/Browse/itunes.stanford.edu.2024353965.02024599579 > > There are downloads for both the video lectures in the series and PDF > files for the teaching slides that are used in each lecture, so be > sure you use item chooser menu to find and press (VO-Space) the tabs > for both the Video downloads and the PDF notes downloads. Rather than > simply subscribing to the whole course -- since 23 hour-long video > lectures in particular can take up a substantial amount of disk space > -- I would try selecting the first one or two lectures for > downloading. I took a quick look at the first lecture and the course > description in the HTML area. The pre-requisites are that you have > knowledge of the C programming language and a previous programming > course. So I'd say that this is doable for someone with fairly modest > programming background, but probably not for someone with no previous > programming background. Here are the course description and > prerequisites pasted from the HTML area: > > > Description: > > Tools and APIs required to build applications for the iPhone platform > using the iPhone SDK. User interface designs for mobile devices and > unique user interactions using multitouch technologies. Object- > oriented design using model-view-controller pattern, memory > management, Objective-C programming language. iPhone APIs and tools > including Xcode, Interface Builder and Instruments on Mac OS X. Other > topics include: core animation, bonjour networking, mobile device > power management and performance considerations. > > Prerequisites: C language and programming experience at the level of > 106B or X. Recommended: UNIX, object-oriented programming, graphical > toolkits > > > Note that the first lecture spends a lot of time on the administrative > arrangements and introducing the instructors (ex-Stanford grads now > working at Apple) before starting in on the material. They use the > Apple SDK and documentations for the text, so the only absolute > requirement (apart from knowledge for the pre-requisites and working > with C) is having an Intel Mac to run the exercises on. > > HTH. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > >> >> Hello group; Has anyone tried writing an iphone application yet? If >> so, what was the process like? Is it something anyone can do, or >> does >> it take a lot of programming knowledge. I'm asking because a friend >> suggesting creating an app to promote my website. She also said that >> by creating the app it would make it easier on people viewing my site >> on their iphone. As a large part of my web traffic is from people >> using their cell phones, I'd really like to try this and would love >> even more not making some one elses mistakes. I'll appreciate any >> help i can get. Thanks in advance, Max >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Bookshare and Olearia
Hello. There is a mac Daisy reader called Olaria. I thought it it supported Bookshare books, so I downloaded it and tried it on a Bookshare book I just downloaded. Whenever I try to open the Bookshare book with Olaria, a dialog box pops up that says that the book is missing an audio file. Bookshare books don't have audio files. They are text only. Is this a bug in Olaria or is something wrong with the book? I will list the files that came in the .zip file. End_The_Fed.ncx End_The_Fed.opf End_The_Fed.xml End_The_Fed1.smil End_The_Fed2.smil I'm running Snow Leopard. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: using an itunes gift card?
As always, thank you Esther! I don't know what we would do without you! :) Best, Donna On Oct 11, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Donna, > > When you're in the iTunes HTML area use item chooser menu to look for > a link to "Redeem". Activate the link with VO-Space and you'll be > taken to a page where you can type or paste in the number. You'll be > in the edit field, so you can just type in the numbers and press > return (without getting the VoiceOver prompts). If that bothers you, > you can navigate to the HTML area and interact, then as you move > through the page you'll hear: "Redeem Code, Have an iTunes Gift Card, > Gift Certificate or other iTunes code? Enter it exactly as it > appears." and you can VO-Right arrow from there onto the text edit > field. Similarly, you can VO-Right arrow to the buttons for "Cancel" > and "Redeem" and press the "Redeem" button with VO-Space instead of > just pressing return after typing the code into the textbox. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Donna Goodin wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I have an Itunes card that I need to use soon or it will expire. >> But, >> when I go into Itunes, I can't see any place to enter a card number >> or >> anything. Can someone explain how to do this? >> thanks, >> Donna > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
skype on the itouch
this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it has. trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i click on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not very accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? thoughts, suggestions? thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: skype on the itouch
I'm able to type in the edit box and call people that way, but that's the only way I know of using it. > From: jdawg1...@gmail.com > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: skype on the itouch > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:58:32 -0500 > > > this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it has. > trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i click > on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not very > accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? > thoughts, suggestions? thanks. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Bookshare and Olearia again
Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. The files for this book are: End_The_Fed.ncx End_The_Fed.opf End_The_Fed.xml End_The_Fed1.smil End_The_Fed2.smil daisy.css daisyTransform.xsl dtbook-2005-3.dtd html.css --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Reading Email
Hello, When reading mail I keep hearing t hanks or w elcome as if these messages are being split onto 2 different lines. Is it possible to correct this. Thanks Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
We are finishing up the Bookshare text only book reading part and will be releasing a finished version of Olearia with that feature very soon. Greg Kearney 535 S. Jackson St. Casper, Wyoming 82601 307-224-4022 gkear...@gmail.com On 12/10/2009, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I > found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped > the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the > book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. > The files for this book are: > End_The_Fed.ncx > End_The_Fed.opf > End_The_Fed.xml > End_The_Fed1.smil > End_The_Fed2.smil > daisy.css > daisyTransform.xsl > dtbook-2005-3.dtd > html.css > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
the player doesn't support text only or full text and audio books yet. bookshare.org books are text only. On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > > Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I > found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped > the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the > book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. > The files for this book are: > End_The_Fed.ncx > End_The_Fed.opf > End_The_Fed.xml > End_The_Fed1.smil > End_The_Fed2.smil > daisy.css > daisyTransform.xsl > dtbook-2005-3.dtd > html.css > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading Email
This "split" reading happens in Snow Leopard when the message comes in the HTML format. To get rid of this annoyance, press the shortcut command+option+p to change the format to plain text and it will read fine. With best wishes, Simon On 12 Oct 2009, at 00:41, Mac Cougar wrote: > > Hello, > > When reading mail I keep hearing t hanks or w elcome as if these > messages are being split onto 2 different lines. Is it possible to > correct this. > > Thanks > Steve > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Reading PDF Files with Preview
Ah Nic, I do not have my mouse tracking the VO cursor. I found early on on my journey with mac that it interfered with my navigation and some reading functions so I only route my mouse to VO cursor when I need to click the physical mouse. Best wishes, Simon On 11 Oct 2009, at 19:58, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > Hi, > > I would try that, if I wasn't having severe issues with the mouse > tracking in general. While I always have it on, it sometimes doesn't > track properly. Even if I do VO-Command-F5, to move it to the > VoiceOver cursor, it still stays in the other window (Skype in this > case). I can't figure out why it does that. I have the same issues on > occasion with keyboard focus. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook: Profile > Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> >> Nic, I interact with the table of content, and when I reach the >> chapter heading I want to read, I perform the click with vo+shift >> +spacebar and then stop interacting and vo+left arrow once and I >> usually am at the top of the page where my chapter begins. The only >> thing I noticed then is sometimes VO won't read the entire content of >> the chapter, or at least I suspect that sometimes it stops before the >> end. I also noticed that in when I try to read in this way and try to >> interact with the text in order to read slowly line by line, by >> interacting with the text I seem to be thrown to the beginning of the >> entire book as you describe. >> >> Best wishes, Simon >> On 11 Oct 2009, at 11:44, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It does. Only problem seems to be that, when you want to read just >>> one >>> chapter, and you highlight it, if interacting to go down VoiceOver >>> jumps to top. At least, in my case. Searching, maybe? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook: Profile >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro >>> >>> On Oct 11, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> I have mine se to single page continuous which I thought would result in PDF files reading the entire document? Les Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > *chuckles* Oops. Well, that was my fault. I had accidentally set > PDF > display to Single Page, not SIngle Page COntinuous. My submenus > are > sometimes acting up a bit. > > Regards, > Nic > On Oct 10, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> My VoiceOver autoscrolls, but if I select from the table, it goes >> back to the first ever chapter, the contents. That is, if you >> read >> it with the VoiceOver keys without having everything read at >> once. >> Somehow, though, I managed to stop VoiceOver from autoscrolling >> and >> I can't exactly remember how. All I know is, it's really >> annoying, >> now that it isn't doing it. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Oct 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, are their specific settings that need to be set in Preview >>> prior >>> to reading pdf documents? My file comes up in outline view >>> and I >>> can >>> tab to the table of Contents, highlight a topic and read the >>> first >>> page. I then have to tab to the Next Page Button and then >>> Shift- >>> Tab >>> back to read that page. I'm using a MacBook Pro, and can not >>> activate >>> the Page Down key which I believe is Ctrl-Option FN Key down >>> arrow. >>> Any help appreciated. >>> >>> Les > >> >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook: Profile >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/chojiro >> > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: VoiceOver and File Maker
If someone does have the answer I'd also like to know. On Oct 5, 2009, at 9:06 PM, John Panarese wrote: > Someone asked me this question via the telephone. Does anyone > know the status of VoiceOver accessibility with the latest versions of > File Maker and Ben - JD - John Denning Facebook: www.facebook.com/jdiver AIM: denni...@me.com A+ MCSA MCSE ITILv3 And glad to be a Mac snob again! Roswell, GA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skype on the itouch
Hi Use nimbuzz instead. Nimbuzz can log into facebook, AIM, yahoo, google talk, and skype. It even lets you use your skype out call plan to dial phone numbers. Perfectly accessible, except the dial pad buttons are not labeled. But if you know the layout of a telephone, its completely useable. hth John On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: > > this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it > has. > trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i > click > on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not very > accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? > thoughts, suggestions? thanks. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
Olearia does support Full Text/Full Audio for playback now. Gregory Kearney Manager - Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) Email: gkear...@gmail.com On 12/10/2009, at 9:29 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > the player doesn't support text only or full text and audio books > yet. bookshare.org > books are text only. > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> >> Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I >> found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped >> the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the >> book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. >> The files for this book are: >> End_The_Fed.ncx >> End_The_Fed.opf >> End_The_Fed.xml >> End_The_Fed1.smil >> End_The_Fed2.smil >> daisy.css >> daisyTransform.xsl >> dtbook-2005-3.dtd >> html.css >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skype on the itouch
Where do you get Nimbuz from? On 12 Oct 2009, at 03:13, John J Herzog wrote: > > Hi > Use nimbuzz instead. Nimbuzz can log into facebook, AIM, yahoo, google > talk, and skype. It even lets you use your skype out call plan to dial > phone numbers. Perfectly accessible, except the dial pad buttons are > not labeled. But if you know the layout of a telephone, its completely > useable. > > hth > > John > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: > >> >> this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it >> has. >> trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i >> click >> on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not >> very >> accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? >> thoughts, suggestions? thanks. >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
RE: skype on the itouch
from the app store. > Subject: Re: skype on the itouch > From: simon.cavend...@googlemail.com > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:30:58 +0100 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > > Where do you get Nimbuz from? > On 12 Oct 2009, at 03:13, John J Herzog wrote: > > > > > Hi > > Use nimbuzz instead. Nimbuzz can log into facebook, AIM, yahoo, google > > talk, and skype. It even lets you use your skype out call plan to dial > > phone numbers. Perfectly accessible, except the dial pad buttons are > > not labeled. But if you know the layout of a telephone, its completely > > useable. > > > > hth > > > > John > > > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: > > > >> > >> this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it > >> has. > >> trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i > >> click > >> on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not > >> very > >> accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? > >> thoughts, suggestions? thanks. > >> > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
What formats does this support? On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > the player doesn't support text only or full text and audio books > yet. bookshare.org > books are text only. > > On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: > >> >> Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I >> found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped >> the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the >> book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. >> The files for this book are: >> End_The_Fed.ncx >> End_The_Fed.opf >> End_The_Fed.xml >> End_The_Fed1.smil >> End_The_Fed2.smil >> daisy.css >> daisyTransform.xsl >> dtbook-2005-3.dtd >> html.css >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mac Flip and Quick Time Player
Hi to the list. Using Snow Leopard, I was attempting to play Windows Media audio files. I was directed to a page on the Apple site, and then a page on the Microsoft site to download Flip for Mac, which I believe adds support to Quick Time for Windows Media audio files. So, I had installed the software, and upon launching a a Windows Media Audio file, a message appears that says the quick time player must be installed. It is in fact already on this machine, so anyone know what's happening? Thanks a lot --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mac Flip and Quick Time Player
Quite simple; Flip doesn't support the latest version of Quicktime. The only way you'll get WMA and WMV playback is through VLC: http://www.videolan.org At least, as best as I can tell, anyway. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:46 PM, James Fettgather wrote: > > Hi to the list. > > Using Snow Leopard, I was attempting to play Windows Media audio > files. > I was directed to a page on the Apple site, and then a page on the > Microsoft site to download Flip for Mac, which I believe adds support > to Quick Time for Windows Media audio files. > > So, I had installed the software, and upon launching a a Windows Media > Audio file, a message appears that says the quick time player must be > installed. > > It is in fact already on this machine, so anyone know what's > happening? > > Thanks a lot > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
At the present time it will read the following format which are not protected by DRM: Daisy full audio Daisy full text/full audio We are working on Daisy text only which is what Bookshare produces. Gregory Kearney Manager - Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) Email: gkear...@gmail.com On 12/10/2009, at 11:01 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > > What formats does this support? > On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > >> >> the player doesn't support text only or full text and audio books >> yet. bookshare.org >> books are text only. >> >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I >>> found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I >>> unzipped >>> the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the >>> book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio >>> file. >>> The files for this book are: >>> End_The_Fed.ncx >>> End_The_Fed.opf >>> End_The_Fed.xml >>> End_The_Fed1.smil >>> End_The_Fed2.smil >>> daisy.css >>> daisyTransform.xsl >>> dtbook-2005-3.dtd >>> html.css >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bookshare and Olearia again
I see now. I understand. On Oct 12, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Greg Kearney wrote: > > At the present time it will read the following format which are not > protected by DRM: > > Daisy full audio > Daisy full text/full audio > > We are working on Daisy text only which is what Bookshare produces. > > > Gregory Kearney > Manager - Accessible Media > Association for the Blind of Western Australia > 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 > Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia > > Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 > Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) > Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 > Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) > Email: gkear...@gmail.com > > On 12/10/2009, at 11:01 AM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > >> >> What formats does this support? >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> >>> the player doesn't support text only or full text and audio books >>> yet. bookshare.org >>> books are text only. >>> >>> On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: >>> Hello. I had copied the files for the book to another folder and I found out that I didn't copy all of the files. Therefore, I unzipped the files to the folder and tried to use Olearia again to read the book. I still get the message about not being to load an audio file. The files for this book are: End_The_Fed.ncx End_The_Fed.opf End_The_Fed.xml End_The_Fed1.smil End_The_Fed2.smil daisy.css daisyTransform.xsl dtbook-2005-3.dtd html.css > >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: skype on the itouch
Look for Nimbuzz in the app store. You can find it there. Also check out www.nimbuzz.com On Oct 11, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Where do you get Nimbuz from? > On 12 Oct 2009, at 03:13, John J Herzog wrote: > >> >> Hi >> Use nimbuzz instead. Nimbuzz can log into facebook, AIM, yahoo, >> google >> talk, and skype. It even lets you use your skype out call plan to >> dial >> phone numbers. Perfectly accessible, except the dial pad buttons are >> not labeled. But if you know the layout of a telephone, its >> completely >> useable. >> >> hth >> >> John >> >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: >> >>> >>> this may've been covered before, so excuse my repetitiveness if it >>> has. >>> trying to use skype on the ITouch, and it's not being very good... i >>> click >>> on all contacts, but don't see anyone... now i know taht it's not >>> very >>> accessible to begin with, but does that mean it's not usable at all? >>> thoughts, suggestions? thanks. >>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
