Abbyy Fine Reader and VO
I go this back from the Abbyy people: "We are glad to inform you that ABBYY FineReader Express Edition for Mac was tested on Voice Over screen reader and it is completely compatible with it." Gregory Kearney Manager - Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) Email: gkear...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
antivirus software on mac
Hi all. Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus software if I need one. Regards Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
I hear mac is very extremely safe. I do wonder the same myself though I mean if it really the best option to just totally assume we'll never get a virus? On 3-Aug-09, at 8:54 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi all. > Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I > need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend > out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and > other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. > But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus > software if I need one. > Regards Tony > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
Hello Tony, You don't need antivirus software on the Mac. Sometimes, such software can cause more problems than it solves. The only problems you might encounter are viruses in MS Word documents that you could pass on to Windows users. If you get a lot of MS Word documents as attachments to Mail messages which you then pass on to other people, you might want to get hold of ClamXav from: www.clamXav.com You can then scan any document you think might be suspicious. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
Hi there, I haven't found the need for one personally, but my father uses iantivirus, and I set it up for him so it is accessible. I did a google search to find it and don't have the link off hand. On 3-Aug-09, at 8:54 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi all. > Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I > need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend > out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and > other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. > But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus > software if I need one. > Regards Tony > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
copy voiceover text to clipbord
Hi friends, I'm having a brain cramp and I can't for the life of me remember what the key stroke is for the most useful task of copying the last thing voice over said to the clipbord. Thanks for your help and patience. erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
Hi Anne and all. Thanks for your answer. then it's the same as for linux wich I run on my little netbook. I don't use a lot of worddocuments so that's not a problem at the moment. Regards Tony 2009/8/3, kaare dehard : > > Hi there, I haven't found the need for one personally, but my father > uses iantivirus, and I set it up for him so it is accessible. I did a > google search to find it and don't have the link off hand. > On 3-Aug-09, at 8:54 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > >> >> Hi all. >> Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I >> need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend >> out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and >> other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. >> But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus >> software if I need one. >> Regards Tony >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copy voiceover text to clipbord
it's vo--shift--c On Aug 3, 2009, at 2:50 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > > Hi friends, I'm having a brain cramp and I can't for the life of me > remember what the key stroke is for the most useful task of copying > the last thing voice over said to the clipbord. > > Thanks for your help and patience. > > > > erik burggraaf > A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. > Phone: 888-255-5194 > Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: second life and another query
When you first turn on a new Macintosh you can just wait a minute or two and VoiceOver will launch assuming that you might not know a specific keystroke before you have the Mac to read On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Joe Quinn wrote: > > does anyone know if second life is accessible on the Mac? also, on an > unrelated note, how do you launch that thing when you first get your > Mac > that goes, "this operating system has a built-in screen reader called > voiceover..." i assume it's command option f8 but am not sure? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Garage Band---beyond the basics
Hi fellow visionaries, music was my first love, and while it certainly won't be my last, it still plays an important role in my life. So as soon as I learned that the Mac comes with a music suite called Garage Band, I started experimenting with it. I have now produced five pieces of music with it and I love it to pieces. Up until now, the Garage Band experience for me has consisted of recording one track, then recording the second while listening to the first, then recording the third while listening to the first two, etc. I learned about real and software instruments, about panning and mixing, about effects, and about quantization. So what comes out is listenable, if that word even exists. However, I feel that now is the time to raise the bar. For example, I don't trust my fingers, or my voice, for that matter, to do the exact same thing twice, so I'd like to be able to copy recorded segments around. I feel this is incredibly basic but I simply can't figure out how to do it without a mouse. Or I'd like to tell the software to loop a drum sequence I recorded. Or to transpose part of a track. The list goes ever on, as does creativity. The music in my mind repeats, twists, turns, jumps over its own shadow, lands on its head, in short, it's alive. To bring it through, I need a bird's eye view of the song I'm composing. At the moment I see it as a set of tracks which I can mix and pan and effectualize and quantize and, if I'm sufficiently dissatisfied with them, ultimately delete and re-record. The raw material is there, but I can't find my tools. These tools are editing, moving, copying, looping, fading in and out, transposing, splitting, re-arranging ... in short, not just playing notes but composing music. So I'd like to ask around: Has anyone got any ideas how I can do some or all of the above things using just the keyboard and Voiceover? Thanks a lot in advance, Felix Grützmacher --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copy voiceover text to clipbord
VO shift C is your friend. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Snow Leopard pre-order
Hi all, I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am going to pre-order, and I have a question. I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this something I will be able to do on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an upgrade will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Rayna --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
A few more Iphone questions
Hi all, Is it correct that the Iphone offers a stereo microphone input? Also, if voiceOver gets silent when turning it on after confirming the gester change, what to do then? This happened in the store when I was not able to try it more! Many thanks, Christian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: copy voiceover text to clipbord
Yes sir, thanks very much. erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 3-Aug-09, at 11:12 AM, Mark Baxter wrote: > > VO shift C is your friend. > > > Mark BurningHawk Baxter > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > My home page: > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Garage Band---beyond the basics
Hi friend, I may be able to help you out eventually as I'm experimenting with garrage band now myself, but I have a favour to ask. Could you please please please tell me how you managed to pan? The pan control in the track view is absolutely useless to me. VO simply will not use it, though it likes the volumes OK. Thanks and I hope I can trade back some knowhow down the road. Best, erik burggraaf A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 3-Aug-09, at 11:02 AM, constantlyvaria...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi fellow visionaries, > music was my first love, and while it certainly won't be my last, it > still plays an important role in my life. So as soon as I learned that > the Mac comes with a music suite called Garage Band, I started > experimenting with it. I have now produced five pieces of music with > it and I love it to pieces. > Up until now, the Garage Band experience for me has consisted of > recording one track, then recording the second while listening to the > first, then recording the third while listening to the first two, etc. > I learned about real and software instruments, about panning and > mixing, about effects, and about quantization. So what comes out is > listenable, if that word even exists. > However, I feel that now is the time to raise the bar. For example, I > don't trust my fingers, or my voice, for that matter, to do the exact > same thing twice, so I'd like to be able to copy recorded segments > around. I feel this is incredibly basic but I simply can't figure out > how to do it without a mouse. Or I'd like to tell the software to loop > a drum sequence I recorded. Or to transpose part of a track. The list > goes ever on, as does creativity. The music in my mind repeats, > twists, turns, jumps over its own shadow, lands on its head, in short, > it's alive. To bring it through, I need a bird's eye view of the song > I'm composing. At the moment I see it as a set of tracks which I can > mix and pan and effectualize and quantize and, if I'm sufficiently > dissatisfied with them, ultimately delete and re-record. The raw > material is there, but I can't find my tools. These tools are editing, > moving, copying, looping, fading in and out, transposing, splitting, > re-arranging ... in short, not just playing notes but composing music. > So I'd like to ask around: Has anyone got any ideas how I can do some > or all of the above things using just the keyboard and Voiceover? > Thanks a lot in advance, > Felix Grützmacher > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: A few more Iphone questions
The Fire field recorder app for iPhone claims to do stereo via various hardware connected via the docking port. http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=309378684&mt=8 and there is the alesis protrack which apparently will work with the iphone although the top cover doesn't fit on. http://www.alesis.com/protrack http://www.amazon.com/Alesis-ProTrack-Handheld-Stereo-Recorder/dp/B001GVIXGU From this site it would appear that the mic input on the headphone jack is mono: http://www.lunamusika.com/blog/?p=1966 iProRecorder claims in their FAQ that the built-in mic is Mono and that you have to hook something to the dock to do stereo: http://www.iprorecorder.com/ CB Christian wrote: > Hi all, > Is it correct that the Iphone offers a stereo microphone input? > Also, if voiceOver gets silent when turning it on after confirming the gester > change, what to do then? > This happened in the store when I was not able to try it more! > Many thanks, > Christian > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
but was it tested with the end user of voice over or just in general On 2 Aug 2009, at 22:56, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > > yes it is true. i wish we could try it. > rk > > Il giorno 02/ago/09, alle ore 23:32, christos hux ha scritto: > >> >> There is now a new ocr application avilable for >> the mac platform. >> it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs $99 >> & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from >> the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. >> right now there is not a test version of the application like there >> is >> for all their other applications. I have been thinking about >> purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr >> program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with >> faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose >> from. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
can not international people take advantage of the discount? why do these deas never extend outside the US? lol On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, > > I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off > the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App > Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, > which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's > the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in > case I made a typo in the coupon code: > > http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 > > Also, if you check the description of this application at: > > http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ > > use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", > "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the > details. > > Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of > this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the > headings: > > http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm > > I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: > > > The application supports 171 recognition languages, including > English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, > Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, > Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 > languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible > conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual > documents containing up to three different languages. > > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >> I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson >> perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? >> The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to >> get >> minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a >> box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of >> buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the group I >> find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup >> button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. >> >> However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though >> the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am >> unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw >> >> This version is quite old, as the directory not only has >> ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic >> >> There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to >> get a >> discount and test the new stuff. >> >> Jon >> >> christos hux wrote: >> >>> >>> There is now a new ocr application avilable for >>> the mac >>> platform. >>> it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs >>> $99 >>> & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from >>> the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. >>> right now there is not a test version of the application like >>> there is >>> for all their other applications. I have been thinking about >>> purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr >>> program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with >>> faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose >>> from. >>> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: second life and another query
Hi Joe, Joe Quinn wrote: > > does anyone know if second life is accessible on the Mac? also, on an > unrelated note, how do you launch that thing when you first get your > Mac > that goes, "this operating system has a built-in screen reader called > voiceover..." i assume it's command option f8 but am not sure? > I don't know whether Second Life is accessible, but I do remember that you need to be running a supported graphics card that is capable of handling graphics intensive processing for this virtual reality software. That means that you likely won't be able to run it (or run it without major performance issues) on a Mac mini or a MacBook, since these machines use shared memory from your system for their graphics processing rather than working with large dedicated graphics memory built into the graphics card. (This isn't quite a black and white distinction; you may be able to disable most features and run slowly on recent models, but remember that VoiceOver is also using system memory resources; by all accounts even without VoiceOver performance on these machines is very slow.) So you're probably going to be looking at a Pro level desktop or laptop for your answers. Maybe some other list member can chime in about their experiences I assume you're asking about how to launch the VoiceOver Quick Start that plays on first launch. Bring up the VoiceOver menu (Control- Option-F7) and check the Help menu (press "H" then right arrow to the submenu). You can access the VoiceOver Quick Start there, or launch it directly outside of the help menu with Control-Option-Command-F8. The help menu also has a "Learn Sounds" menu entry to help you review the sounds associated with hitting boundary limits, deleting characters, etc. Control-Option-F8 brings up the VoiceOver Utility menu which lets you adjust your settings for voice selection and speed, web navigation mode, cursor tracking options, etc. The more detailed guides for getting started with VoiceOver in Leopard at the VoiceOver downloads page: http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html Even more formats for the guide (Daisy, U.S. Grade 2 Braille, etc.) are available from the CUCAT (Curtis Universtiy) pages: http://www.cucat.org/books/vogs/vogs.php HTH. And welcome to the list. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
Hi Will, I don't know that international people can't take advantage of the discount. All I reported on was the existence of a 20 per cent discount coupon, and the savings this would translate into for U.S. buyers -- since that's the only price that I can view. Esther william lomas wrote: > > can not international people take advantage of the discount? why do > these deas never extend outside the US? lol > > Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >> >> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >> >> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >> >> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >> >> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >> >> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >> details. >> >> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >> headings: >> >> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >> >> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >> >> >> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >> documents containing up to three different languages. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>> >>> I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson >>> perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? >>> The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to >>> get >>> minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a >>> box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of >>> buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the >>> group I >>> find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup >>> button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. >>> >>> However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though >>> the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am >>> unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw >>> >>> This version is quite old, as the directory not only has >>> ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic >>> >>> There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to >>> get a >>> discount and test the new stuff. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> christos hux wrote: >>> There is now a new ocr application avilable for the mac platform. it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs $99 & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. right now there is not a test version of the application like there is for all their other applications. I have been thinking about purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose from. > >>> >>> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
has anyone tried the program yet i.e. bought it and used it? very keen to get it as i need an OCR for my mac really but want others to try it On 3 Aug 2009, at 18:38, Esther wrote: > > Hi Will, > > I don't know that international people can't take advantage of the > discount. All I reported on was the existence of a 20 per cent > discount coupon, and the savings this would translate into for U.S. > buyers -- since that's the only price that I can view. > > Esther > > william lomas wrote: > >> >> can not international people take advantage of the discount? why do >> these deas never extend outside the US? lol >> >> Esther wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >>> >>> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >>> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >>> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >>> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >>> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >>> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >>> >>> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >>> >>> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >>> >>> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >>> >>> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >>> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >>> details. >>> >>> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >>> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >>> headings: >>> >>> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >>> >>> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >>> >>> >>> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >>> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >>> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >>> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >>> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >>> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >>> documents containing up to three different languages. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to get minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the group I find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw This version is quite old, as the directory not only has ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to get a discount and test the new stuff. Jon christos hux wrote: > > There is now a new ocr application avilable for > the mac > platform. > it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs > $99 > & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer > from > the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. > right now there is not a test version of the application like > there is > for all their other applications. I have been thinking about > purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr > program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with > faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to > chose > from. > >> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
Hey Jon, You might have better luck working with your outdated copy by using the mouse. Route the mouse to the VO cursor (I think the command is vo+cmd+f5 - have a look in the menu by pressing vo+f7) and clicking (vo+shift+space). That's how I got the old bookshare app working, as well as some other apps which don't respond to the VO press command. On 8/3/09, william lomas wrote: > > has anyone tried the program yet i.e. bought it and used it? > very keen to get it as i need an OCR for my mac really but want others > to try it > > On 3 Aug 2009, at 18:38, Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Will, >> >> I don't know that international people can't take advantage of the >> discount. All I reported on was the existence of a 20 per cent >> discount coupon, and the savings this would translate into for U.S. >> buyers -- since that's the only price that I can view. >> >> Esther >> >> william lomas wrote: >> >>> >>> can not international people take advantage of the discount? why do >>> these deas never extend outside the US? lol >>> >>> Esther wrote: >>> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in case I made a typo in the coupon code: http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 Also, if you check the description of this application at: http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the details. Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the headings: http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: The application supports 171 recognition languages, including English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual documents containing up to three different languages. Cheers, Esther Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > > I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson > perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an > upgrade? > The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to > get > minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a > box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of > buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the > group I > find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan > popup > button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. > > However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, > though > the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am > unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw > > This version is quite old, as the directory not only has > ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic > > There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to > get a > discount and test the new stuff. > > Jon > > christos hux wrote: > >> >> There is now a new ocr application avilable for >> the mac >> platform. >> it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs >> $99 >> & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer >> from >> the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. >> right now there is not a test version of the application like >> there is >> for all their other applications. I have been thinking about >> purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr >> program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with >> faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to >> chose >> from. >> >>> > > > >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options,
Deleting message history in Adium
Hi All, Whenever I chat with someone using Adium, an html record of our conversation is on the screen. This is nice because one can review what has been said. Adium seems to save this information and each time I start a new chat with a person that I have chatted with before, I see all of the past chats as well as the current information. I have looked through the menus and preferences and I don't see a way of clearing out this information. I was told that there should be files stored somewhere that I could delete to get rid of the chat history. I have not been able to locate these files. Does anybody have the answer? Thanks, Robert Carter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deleting message history in Adium
Hi Robert, you can access that via the chat transcripts window, that you can get to with command-shift-l, and then just select all in that table, and hit delete. What I've done then, is to go into the general preferences of Adium, and turn off logging of chats. Hope this helps. You may have to confirm deletion of chat transcripts, not sure. On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > Hi All, > > Whenever I chat with someone using Adium, an html record of our > conversation is on the screen. This is nice because one can review > what has been said. Adium seems to save this information and each > time I start a new chat with a person that I have chatted with > before, I see all of the past chats as well as the current > information. I have looked through the menus and preferences and I > don't see a way of clearing out this information. I was told that > there should be files stored somewhere that I could delete to get > rid of the chat history. I have not been able to locate these files. > > Does anybody have the answer? > > Thanks, > > Robert Carter > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
Dear Esther, This is very interesting. Do you know whether Abbyy supports automatic page orientation and multi-page scanning? Does it support two page scanning as in an open book on a flat-bed scanner? Does it append pages to the end of the document by default, or does one have to move one's cursor there? I shall check this application out. With best wishes Simon On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: > > Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, > > I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off > the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App > Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, > which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's > the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in > case I made a typo in the coupon code: > > http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 > > Also, if you check the description of this application at: > > http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ > > use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", > "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the > details. > > Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of > this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the > headings: > > http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm > > I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: > > > The application supports 171 recognition languages, including > English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, > Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, > Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 > languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible > conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual > documents containing up to three different languages. > > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >> I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson >> perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? >> The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to >> get >> minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a >> box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of >> buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the group I >> find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup >> button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. >> >> However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though >> the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am >> unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw >> >> This version is quite old, as the directory not only has >> ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic >> >> There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to >> get a >> discount and test the new stuff. >> >> Jon >> >> christos hux wrote: >> >>> >>> There is now a new ocr application avilable for >>> the mac >>> platform. >>> it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs >>> $99 >>> & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from >>> the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. >>> right now there is not a test version of the application like >>> there is >>> for all their other applications. I have been thinking about >>> purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr >>> program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with >>> faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose >>> from. >>> >> >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
Hi, You could use anti virius software if you wanted to, but it is really not necessary. mac is more secure then windows is for the most part. As long as you use comen sence and not open mail from people you do not know or download files you don't know whare they came from then you should be ok. I am not iusing any anti virius software here on this mac mini and it is runing as smooth as if I just got it yesterday. matthew dyer ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Live journal: mtdyer2009 MSN: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com Twitter: mdyer1 facebook: mdyer On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:54 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi all. > Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I > need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend > out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and > other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. > But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus > software if I need one. > Regards Tony > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Deleting message history in Adium
Hi, Thanks Dan. I will follow your instructions when I get home and see if I can't delete all of that chat history. I do have log history unchecked in the preferences but it seems to be saving it anyway. We will see what happens now that I know how to get to the correct place to delete. Thanks, Robert Carter - Original Message - From: Dan Eickmeier To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, Aug 3, 2009 15:15:38 Subject: Re: Deleting message history in Adium > > > > Hi Robert, you can access that via the chat transcripts window, that > you can get to with command-shift-l, and then just select all in that > table, and hit delete. What I've done then, is to go into the general > preferences of Adium, and turn off logging of chats. Hope this > helps. You may have to confirm deletion of chat transcripts, not sure. > On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Robert Carter wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > Whenever I chat with someone using Adium, an html record of our > > conversation is on the screen. This is nice because one can review > > what has been said. Adium seems to save this information and each > > time I start a new chat with a person that I have chatted with > > before, I see all of the past chats as well as the current > > information. I have looked through the menus and preferences and I > > don't see a way of clearing out this information. I was told that > > there should be files stored somewhere that I could delete to get > > rid of the chat history. I have not been able to locate these files. > > > > Does anybody have the answer? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Robert Carter > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > com~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
Hi Simon, I know that ABBYY Fine Reader on the Fujitsu ScanSnap supports very fast dual sided multi-page scans and automatic page orientation and two-page scanning, but since that is the version of the app that is bundled with the manufacturer's product (which is not flatbed, but page fed like a Fax machine), and since that does not support VoiceOver, I can't generalize from that product. So far I've been reading the commentaries on macintouch's reader report pages for OCR, and they seem to be quite positive. If you want to monitor these yourself, the web page URL to OCR reader reports is: http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/scanners/topic2038.html Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to look for "Dennis Hill" and you'll be at the beginning of the discussion related to the ABBYY Fine Reader OCR. Just read down the page from there. Incidentally, there is no trial version yet available (as you've read from the current thread's comments), but according to the (later) macintouch posts ABBYY is planning on making one available. (They didn't expect the level of interest they've received.) At least one of the macintouch commenters purchased the app in Europe for 89 Euros. The comments are very positive from people who have purchased this, with simply a note that a few features that are present in the Windows version are not present in the Express edition of ABBYY Fine Reader (i.e., the ability to correct OCR errors in the ABBYY window). Combined with the information from Greg and the original poster (Christos) that the manufacturer has verified the product has been tested with VoiceOver, this looks very interesting, indeed. The SDK version for the Mac has been around for quite a while, but only for software developers. The reports on accuracy are particularly impressive -- someone reported that he was able to scan a 2-page FAXed spreadsheet in tiny 7 point type and have ABBYY Fine Reader Express generate an EXCEL spreadsheet that was perfectly formatted with no errors when none of his other OCR software programs on the Mac had ever able to accomplish this. Happy reading. Cheers, Esther Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Dear Esther, > > This is very interesting. Do you know whether Abbyy supports automatic > page orientation and multi-page scanning? Does it support two page > scanning as in an open book on a flat-bed scanner? Does it append > pages to the end of the document by default, or does one have to move > one's cursor there? > > I shall check this application out. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >> >> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >> >> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >> >> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >> >> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >> >> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >> details. >> >> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >> headings: >> >> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >> >> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >> >> >> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >> documents containing up to three different languages. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>> >>> I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson >>> perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? >>> The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to >>> get >>> minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a >>> box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of >>> buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the >>> group I >>> find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup >>> button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. >>> >>> However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though >>> the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am >>> unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw >>> >>>
Re: new ocr mac application
With regard to Abbyy fine reader express for mac, Esther's kind gesture of forwarding the discount code does work for customers outside the USA. With best wishes Simon On 2 Aug 2009, at 23:06, Esther wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for this notification. I've been tracking the developments of > ABBYY OCR for the Mac because they do a particularly good job with OCR > in a multilingual environment. They used to have a Mac version of > their OCR software quite a long time ago. For about two years they > have made available an SDK (software developers kit) version of their > OCR software for the Mac for product manufacturers to use, and Fujitsu > has been using this packaged with the software in their ScanSnap > series of scanners for the Mac, but not with a general, TWAIN- > compliant interface. > > Here's the web page I found at the ABBYY site: > > http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ > > Note that clicking on links for trial versions will only show their > Windows software versions at present. I'll keep checking on this. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > christos hux wrote: > >> >> There is now a new ocr application avilable for >> the mac platform. >> it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs $99 >> & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from >> the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. >> right now there is not a test version of the application like there >> is >> for all their other applications. I have been thinking about >> purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr >> program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with >> faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose >> from. >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
safari book marks folder location?
hey all i would like to back up my safari book marks to an external hard drive by coppieing and pasting the folder where they are stord so far i have not been able to locate this folder! does any one know where it is? help from the group on this subject would be most welcom! thank you for reading this. kind regards trahern. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: antivirus software on mac
I would say you don't need anti virus software, I've had my mac for over a year and have not had any problems. Of course, the best defense against that kind of thing, on any operating system really is good old fashioned common sense. On Aug 3, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: > > Hi all. > Comming from the world of viruses, wich means windows, I wonder if I > need antivirus software on macs and if so, wich one do you recommend > out there? I know that linux is very safe itself from viruses and > other bad stuff and I also think mac is the same. > But I ask anyway if anyone know about good accessible antivirus > software if I need one. > Regards Tony > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MSN and VO
Hello All, I have my MSN list ported into Adium since VO doesn't work to well with the MSN application... I really miss being able to video chat and use video clips. Is there a different application that will work well with VO and that will allow me to use most the features that MSN offers? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Oh dear, lol! Ok, I've never upgraded an OS, period, ever. I was a Windows user before I went blind, but I just bought new computers. I switched to Mac when I went blind, so this is all new to me. Hold down the C key when booting? So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? This outta be interesting haha. Well now that I know I can do it, I'll go ahead and preorder. I'll cross the installation bridge when I come to it. ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Yes, unlike windows, you will be able to install without sighted help. I plan on doing a complete install as a pod cast when I get mine, but in a nutshell, you start up the mac and hold the c key to boot from the optical drive. Once the dvd is booted, press command f5 to start voice over in the usual way. From there, everything is spoken. On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, rayna424 wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow > Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am > going to pre-order, and I have a question. > > I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this something I will be able to do > on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to > tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an > upgrade will be greatly appreciated! > Thanks, > Rayna > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Hello, Just a little thing to remember. After booting from the Install DVD, make sure you wait till the drive stops before you press Command Shift F5 or Command FN F5 to start VoiceOver. At least, this is the way you currently do it under Leopard and it was the way it worked under Tiger. On Aug 3, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Yes, unlike windows, you will be able to install without sighted help. > I plan on doing a complete install as a pod cast when I get mine, but > in a nutshell, you start up the mac and hold the c key to boot from > the optical drive. Once the dvd is booted, press command f5 to start > voice over in the usual way. From there, everything is spoken. > On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:39 AM, rayna424 wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just received an email from amazon telling me I can pre-order Snow >> Leopard for $29. I didn't know we were so close to getting it! I am >> going to pre-order, and I have a question. >> >> I haven't upgraded an OS yet. Is this something I will be able to do >> on my own? How does it work? When I go to install, will VO work to >> tell me what is happening? Any pointers from those who have done an >> upgrade will be greatly appreciated! >> Thanks, >> Rayna >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Swedish language on an Iphone
Hi all, Well, I had no luck earlier on today. Since no store had the iphone now I decided to contact Apple support but they had no iphone either!!! They told me to contact my operator. I am so interested in hearing the iphone in Swedish since when I got help with turning it on in the store I was not allowed to sit with it. If any of you changes your language to Swedish, is it possible for you to set it back to english from the computer? I would be very interested ot hear it like over Skype or simular. i can also take it b phone. would anyone be intersted in doing this? Many tanks, Christian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: > So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it will open a window which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for your administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will restart and boot from the dvd without user intervention. Just a quick note on the install side of things too. You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer drivers you dont have and also languages you dont need as well. this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think just before or during the choice of install location. HTH Kieren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I knew about Windows though ;) Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you wait to see how it works out? Kieren wrote: > On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: > > So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? > > Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it > will open a window > which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for > your > administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will > restart and boot from > the dvd without user intervention. > > Just a quick note on the install side of things too. > You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer > drivers you dont have and > also languages you dont need as well. > > this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think > just before or during the choice of install location. > > HTH > > Kieren --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
And in addition you can go to System Preferences and choose Startup Disk and select the DVD as the boot disc. So you have three options for getting the system started. Also, the overall install is smaller and you can further customize by not installing the different languages you don't need, but they don't take up much space either. I believe I read that not all printer drivers are installed either, so you can choose what you need. On Aug 3, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Kieren wrote: > > > On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: >> So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? > > Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it > will open a window > which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for > your > administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will > restart and boot from > the dvd without user intervention. > > Just a quick note on the install side of things too. > You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer > drivers you dont have and > also languages you dont need as well. > > this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think > just before or during the choice of install location. > > HTH > > Kieren > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Hello, No matter which way you run the DVD, you still have to manually start VO after the OS boots. On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but > didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In > doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually > upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted > the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I > knew about Windows though ;) > > > Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you > wait to see how it works out? > > Kieren wrote: >> On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: >>> So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? >> >> Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it >> will open a window >> which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for >> your >> administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will >> restart and boot from >> the dvd without user intervention. >> >> Just a quick note on the install side of things too. >> You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer >> drivers you dont have and >> also languages you dont need as well. >> >> this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think >> just before or during the choice of install location. >> >> HTH >> >> Kieren > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard pre-order
Gotcha, so whichever option I pick, I wait until the dvd stops spinning, and turn on VO. Then I can go through the setup with VO. Sweet, I think I got it! Thanks everyone! Dan wrote: > Hello, > No matter which way you run the DVD, you still have to manually start > VO after the OS boots. > On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:33 PM, rayna424 wrote: > > > > > Ok yes, that helps. I think I understand about holding down C, but > > didn't know why it couldn't be done just like any other program. In > > doing this, does VO work the whole time then? I think I did actually > > upgrade a Windows machine once, and when I did that I just inserted > > the cd. I had forgotten about that. I know I know, forget everything I > > knew about Windows though ;) > > > > > > Thanks all! Are you all planning to upgrade immediately, or do you > > wait to see how it works out? > > > > Kieren wrote: > >> On Aug 4, 7:38 am, rayna424 wrote: > >>> So I don't just insert the cd with the macbook on? > >> > >> Yes you can do exactly that. once the dvd is inserted and mounted it > >> will open a window > >> which has an icon "install OS X" open this and you will be asked for > >> your > >> administrators password. Enter it and hit ok and your mac will > >> restart and boot from > >> the dvd without user intervention. > >> > >> Just a quick note on the install side of things too. > >> You can reduce the size of the install by not installing printer > >> drivers you dont have and > >> also languages you dont need as well. > >> > >> this is an options button (i forget where in the process ) I think > >> just before or during the choice of install location. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Kieren > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MSN and VO
Adium works great for me. You might look at skype, it allows video and screen sharing I think, also ichat does this I think. On Aug 3, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Angel Dockham wrote: > > Hello All, > > I have my MSN list ported into Adium since VO doesn't work to well > with the MSN application... I really miss being able to video chat and > use video clips. Is there a different application that will work well > with VO and that will allow me to use most the features that MSN > offers? > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari book marks folder location?
Hi, They are actually stored in an xml file. ~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist. On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:22 PM, trahern culver wrote: > > hey all i would like to back up my safari book marks to an external > hard drive by coppieing and pasting the folder where they are stord so > far i have not been able to locate this folder! does any one know > where it is? help from the group on this subject would be most welcom! > thank you for reading this. > > kind regards trahern. > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Downloading versus playing
Hi, I am terribly embarrassed because I asked this once but can't remember the keystroke for the life of me. If you are on a site like serotalk.com or blindcooltech.com and you are sitting on a link to an mp3 podcast, what is the keystroke to download it rather than have it play? I am not talking about the vo shift m command. That doesn't always give you a menu option to download. There is another keystroke that gives you a download dialog but I can't remember it at the moment. Thanks, Robert Carter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Downloading versus playing
Hi Robert, The shortcut command to force downloading from a link is Option-Enter, and you'll need it to force downloading from serotalk.com I would go to the Blind Cool Tech RSS feed to download: http://www.blindcooltech.com/bct.xml That page loads much faster when you're using VoiceOver than the main Blind Cool Tech page. Mainly, I think it's because the main page has a lot of formatting that VoiceOver parses and the page is also extremely long in terms of the number of entries. It's not really an issue for most computers, but if there's anyone on the list who is running VoiceOver on Tiger on one of the older Macs, they'll see a big difference in the response of their machines if they navigate to the BCT RSS feed to grab their downloads instead of going to the main page. Cheers, Esther Robert Carter wrote: > >Hi, > >I am terribly embarrassed because I asked this once but can't remember >the keystroke for the life of me. If you are on a site like >serotalk.com or blindcooltech.com and you are sitting on a link to an >mp3 podcast, what is the keystroke to download it rather than have it >play? I am not talking about the vo shift m command. That doesn't >always give you a menu option to download. There is another keystroke >that gives you a download dialog but I can't remember it at the moment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Downloading versus playing
Hi Esther, I think I tried every modifier key but option. Thanks a lot, Robert Carter On Aug 3, 2009, at 10:26 PM, Esther wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > The shortcut command to force downloading from a link is Option- > Enter, and you'll need it to force downloading from serotalk.com I > would go to the Blind Cool Tech RSS feed to download: > > http://www.blindcooltech.com/bct.xml > > That page loads much faster when you're using VoiceOver than the > main Blind Cool Tech page. Mainly, I think it's because the main > page has a lot of formatting that VoiceOver parses and the page is > also extremely long in terms of the number of entries. It's not > really an issue for most computers, but if there's anyone on the > list who is running VoiceOver on Tiger on one of the older Macs, > they'll see a big difference in the response of their machines if > they navigate to the BCT RSS feed to grab their downloads instead of > going to the main page. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Robert Carter wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am terribly embarrassed because I asked this once but can't >> remember >> the keystroke for the life of me. If you are on a site like >> serotalk.com or blindcooltech.com and you are sitting on a link to an >> mp3 podcast, what is the keystroke to download it rather than have it >> play? I am not talking about the vo shift m command. That doesn't >> always give you a menu option to download. There is another keystroke >> that gives you a download dialog but I can't remember it at the >> moment. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
OWK Mercury On The Go Drives
Hello, Has anyone tried the OWK Mercury on The Go FireWire 800/400 USB 7200RPM external drives? If so, how do they perform. Their 320GB model is only $144.99 plus shipping. The direct URL is: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MS8U7320GB16/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: safari book marks folder location?
Hi Trahern, Barry is correct that your Safari bookmarks are stored in a file named Bookmarks.plist under the Library/Safari folder for your account, but if you want to create a file of bookmarks that you can easily transfer to any other browser (such as Opera when it becomes fully accessible) you can simply navigate to the File menu on Safari's menu bar (VO-M; then press "F"), then arrow down to "Export Bookmarks". A dialogue window will appear that will prompt you to type in a name for the exported file (or you can use the default name of "Safari Bookmarks"), and the folder where you want to save the file (default is "Documents", but you can change this by using VO-Space on the pop up and choosing another folder; if you want to choose a specific folder that is not listed in the pop up menu, use the "Go to Folder" shortcut of Command-Shift-G and then type in the path to the folder you want in the text field. The file you save will be an HTML file (e.g., "Safari Bookmarks.html"), and you can add these bookmarks to any browser by importing this file via the file menu. This is also the best way to get Favorites from Netscape or Internet Explorer into Safari if you are moving from Windows to the Mac -- export your bookmarks using the File menu of Netscape, Internet Explorer, Firefox, or other browser and then import that file into Safari using its File menu. Of course, you can simply save the Bookmarks.plist file as well, but that file can only be used by Safari on your Mac, while the exported HTML file that contains your bookmarks can be used by any other browser on other operating systems. HTH Cheers, Esther Barry Hadder wrote: > >Hi, > >They are actually stored in an xml file. >~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist. > >On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:22 PM, trahern culver wrote: > >> >> hey all i would like to back up my safari book marks to an external >> hard drive by coppieing and pasting the folder where they are stord so >> far i have not been able to locate this folder! does any one know >> where it is? help from the group on this subject would be most welcom! >> thank you for reading this. >> >> kind regards trahern. >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
importing outlook express mailboxes to mail? Re: safari book marks folder location?
how do you import all your emails from outlook express? - Original Message - From: "Esther" To: Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: safari book marks folder location? Hi Trahern, Barry is correct that your Safari bookmarks are stored in a file named Bookmarks.plist under the Library/Safari folder for your account, but if you want to create a file of bookmarks that you can easily transfer to any other browser (such as Opera when it becomes fully accessible) you can simply navigate to the File menu on Safari's menu bar (VO-M; then press "F"), then arrow down to "Export Bookmarks". A dialogue window will appear that will prompt you to type in a name for the exported file (or you can use the default name of "Safari Bookmarks"), and the folder where you want to save the file (default is "Documents", but you can change this by using VO-Space on the pop up and choosing another folder; if you want to choose a specific folder that is not listed in the pop up menu, use the "Go to Folder" shortcut of Command-Shift-G and then type in the path to the folder you want in the text field. The file you save will be an HTML file (e.g., "Safari Bookmarks.html"), and you can add these bookmarks to any browser by importing this file via the file menu. This is also the best way to get Favorites from Netscape or Internet Explorer into Safari if you are moving from Windows to the Mac -- export your bookmarks using the File menu of Netscape, Internet Explorer, Firefox, or other browser and then import that file into Safari using its File menu. Of course, you can simply save the Bookmarks.plist file as well, but that file can only be used by Safari on your Mac, while the exported HTML file that contains your bookmarks can be used by any other browser on other operating systems. HTH Cheers, Esther Barry Hadder wrote: > >Hi, > >They are actually stored in an xml file. >~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist. > >On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:22 PM, trahern culver wrote: > >> >> hey all i would like to back up my safari book marks to an external >> hard drive by coppieing and pasting the folder where they are stord so >> far i have not been able to locate this folder! does any one know >> where it is? help from the group on this subject would be most welcom! >> thank you for reading this. >> >> kind regards trahern. >> > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
it is only tryalble it seems as of yet, via a full purchase with no trial On 3 Aug 2009, at 21:33, Simon Cavendish wrote: > > Dear Esther, > > This is very interesting. Do you know whether Abbyy supports automatic > page orientation and multi-page scanning? Does it support two page > scanning as in an open book on a flat-bed scanner? Does it append > pages to the end of the document by default, or does one have to move > one's cursor there? > > I shall check this application out. > > With best wishes > > Simon > On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: > >> >> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >> >> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >> >> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >> >> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >> >> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >> >> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >> details. >> >> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >> headings: >> >> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >> >> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >> >> >> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >> documents containing up to three different languages. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> >> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >>> >>> I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson >>> perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? >>> The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to >>> get >>> minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a >>> box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of >>> buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the >>> group I >>> find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup >>> button" and "save popup button". None of these appear to work. >>> >>> However if I go to the menus I get most of the functionality, though >>> the Twain driver itself when it pops up I can just hit enter and am >>> unable to change any of the settings like "DPI", color vs bw >>> >>> This version is quite old, as the directory not only has >>> ABBByFineReaderX" but also AbbyFineReaderClassic >>> >>> There is an upgrade button within the application, I will try to >>> get a >>> discount and test the new stuff. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> christos hux wrote: >>> There is now a new ocr application avilable for the mac platform. it is the abby fine reader express version for the mac. it costs $99 & I did email the us based sales company & got back the answer from the parent company that the app had been tested with voice over. right now there is not a test version of the application like there is for all their other applications. I have been thinking about purchasing it since I have had a hard time with readiris. This ocr program works with all twain drivers, digital cameras & even with faxs. So thankfully now there is another mac ocr program to chose from. > >>> >>> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: new ocr mac application
what is the prom code again please if one can use paypal with that site to get the discount i'll buy the product On 3 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Esther wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > I know that ABBYY Fine Reader on the Fujitsu ScanSnap supports very > fast dual sided multi-page scans and automatic page orientation and > two-page scanning, but since that is the version of the app that is > bundled with the manufacturer's product (which is not flatbed, but > page fed like a Fax machine), and since that does not support > VoiceOver, I can't generalize from that product. So far I've been > reading the commentaries on macintouch's reader report pages for OCR, > and they seem to be quite positive. If you want to monitor these > yourself, the web page URL to OCR reader reports is: > > http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/scanners/topic2038.html > > Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to look for "Dennis Hill" and you'll be > at the beginning of the discussion related to the ABBYY Fine Reader > OCR. Just read down the page from there. Incidentally, there is no > trial version yet available (as you've read from the current thread's > comments), but according to the (later) macintouch posts ABBYY is > planning on making one available. (They didn't expect the level of > interest they've received.) At least one of the macintouch commenters > purchased the app in Europe for 89 Euros. The comments are very > positive from people who have purchased this, with simply a note that > a few features that are present in the Windows version are not present > in the Express edition of ABBYY Fine Reader (i.e., the ability to > correct OCR errors in the ABBYY window). Combined with the > information from Greg and the original poster (Christos) that the > manufacturer has verified the product has been tested with VoiceOver, > this looks very interesting, indeed. The SDK version for the Mac has > been around for quite a while, but only for software developers. The > reports on accuracy are particularly impressive -- someone reported > that he was able to scan a 2-page FAXed spreadsheet in tiny 7 point > type and have ABBYY Fine Reader Express generate an EXCEL spreadsheet > that was perfectly formatted with no errors when none of his other OCR > software programs on the Mac had ever able to accomplish this. > > Happy reading. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > > Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> >> Dear Esther, >> >> This is very interesting. Do you know whether Abbyy supports >> automatic >> page orientation and multi-page scanning? Does it support two page >> scanning as in an open book on a flat-bed scanner? Does it append >> pages to the end of the document by default, or does one have to move >> one's cursor there? >> >> I shall check this application out. >> >> With best wishes >> >> Simon >> On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >>> >>> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >>> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >>> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >>> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >>> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >>> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >>> >>> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >>> >>> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >>> >>> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >>> >>> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >>> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >>> details. >>> >>> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >>> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >>> headings: >>> >>> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >>> >>> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >>> >>> >>> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >>> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >>> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >>> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >>> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >>> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >>> documents containing up to three different languages. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to get minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the group I find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup button" and "sav
Re: new ocr mac application
wow it does sound an impressive bit of software i may just take the plunge and get it On 3 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Esther wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > I know that ABBYY Fine Reader on the Fujitsu ScanSnap supports very > fast dual sided multi-page scans and automatic page orientation and > two-page scanning, but since that is the version of the app that is > bundled with the manufacturer's product (which is not flatbed, but > page fed like a Fax machine), and since that does not support > VoiceOver, I can't generalize from that product. So far I've been > reading the commentaries on macintouch's reader report pages for OCR, > and they seem to be quite positive. If you want to monitor these > yourself, the web page URL to OCR reader reports is: > > http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/scanners/topic2038.html > > Use item chooser menu (VO-I) to look for "Dennis Hill" and you'll be > at the beginning of the discussion related to the ABBYY Fine Reader > OCR. Just read down the page from there. Incidentally, there is no > trial version yet available (as you've read from the current thread's > comments), but according to the (later) macintouch posts ABBYY is > planning on making one available. (They didn't expect the level of > interest they've received.) At least one of the macintouch commenters > purchased the app in Europe for 89 Euros. The comments are very > positive from people who have purchased this, with simply a note that > a few features that are present in the Windows version are not present > in the Express edition of ABBYY Fine Reader (i.e., the ability to > correct OCR errors in the ABBYY window). Combined with the > information from Greg and the original poster (Christos) that the > manufacturer has verified the product has been tested with VoiceOver, > this looks very interesting, indeed. The SDK version for the Mac has > been around for quite a while, but only for software developers. The > reports on accuracy are particularly impressive -- someone reported > that he was able to scan a 2-page FAXed spreadsheet in tiny 7 point > type and have ABBYY Fine Reader Express generate an EXCEL spreadsheet > that was perfectly formatted with no errors when none of his other OCR > software programs on the Mac had ever able to accomplish this. > > Happy reading. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > > Simon Cavendish wrote: > >> >> Dear Esther, >> >> This is very interesting. Do you know whether Abbyy supports >> automatic >> page orientation and multi-page scanning? Does it support two page >> scanning as in an open book on a flat-bed scanner? Does it append >> pages to the end of the document by default, or does one have to move >> one's cursor there? >> >> I shall check this application out. >> >> With best wishes >> >> Simon >> On 3 Aug 2009, at 01:03, Esther wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Jonathan, Rossy, Chris, and Others, >>> >>> I found an announcement of a coupon code discount of 20 per cent off >>> the price of ABBYY Fine Reader Express for the Mac at the Mac App >>> Deals page. You enter the coupon code SMBTM when you check out, >>> which drops the price from $99.99 to $79.99 for U.S. buyers. Here's >>> the link to the Mac App Deals web page, dated July 22, 2009, just in >>> case I made a typo in the coupon code: >>> >>> http://macappdeals.com/?p=2104 >>> >>> Also, if you check the description of this application at: >>> >>> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/ >>> >>> use VO-space to expand the descriptions of "Key Features", "FAQs", >>> "Typical Use", and "System Specifications" so you can read the >>> details. >>> >>> Here's another page at the ABBYY web site that summarizes some of >>> this information on a page that doesn't require expanding the >>> headings: >>> >>> http://www.abbyyusa.com/shop/FREXMac.htm >>> >>> I'll excerpt a part dealing with multi-lingual support: >>> >>> >>> The application supports 171 recognition languages, including >>> English, German, French, Greek, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, >>> Swedish, Finnish, Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, >>> Polish, Slovak, Malay, Indonesian and many others. Of those, 36 >>> languages have dictionary support to provide the best possible >>> conversion results. It also accurately recognizes multi-lingual >>> documents containing up to three different languages. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> >>> Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: I have been using the older version that came bundled with my epson perfection scanner. Any chance of getting a discount for an upgrade? The version I have is not written in Cocoa I believe. I am able to get minimal functionality. When I open the main application, there is a box that comes up with a group of buttons and the entire group of buttons are labeled as "Unknown". If I then interact with the group I find "Scan and Read popup button", "Read pop up button", "Scan popup button" and "save popup button". None of thes
