Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
In a recent message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. [...] Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra white spaces. Allowing extra white space, knowing that it will be wiped out by LaTeX, is at best useless, at worst misleading. [...] In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of tables, for example. Regards, Nick. -- Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton Caversham, Reading, England <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
Nick Hopton wrote: > In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by > inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key > combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of tables, > for example. For this, you can use "normal space" (C-M-) or protected space (C-). Jürgen
Re: LyX 1.44: Questionmarks instead of citations
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Rainer M. Krug wrote:
I just managed to reproduce it with a default new file and two
references. I attache the bibtex file, the lyx file, the resulting pdf
and the latex log
When BibTeX citations mysteriously fail, usually the first thing I look
for is an indigestible .bib file, which seems to be the problem here. I
compiled you doc using both LyX and export to LaTeX/manual compile, and
both failed as they did for you. Then I poked around the .bib file.
I remember - I had the same problems earlier.
This file was created with JabRef 2.2.
Encoding: ISO8859_1
@INPROCEEDINGS{Baard1997,
author = {Baard, E.H.W.},
title = {A conservation strategy for the geometric tortoise,
Psammobates
I think that the character immediately after "tortoise," is causing
BibTeX digestion problems. I deleted it, save the .bib file, then
deleted and reapplied the references in the LyX document, and it then
compiled correctly.
Strange - I tried the same and it didn't. Could you please post or
emailme the working example, then I can try it out?
I'm no expert on encodings, but if that character is a legitimate
character in ISO8859_1, there's still the question of whether that's
what BibTeX is using. The LyX document seems to be set for "default"
encoding (for British). I don't know enough about BibTeX to know if it
reads the encoding from the .bib file, from the .aux file (which
presumably matches the source document), or whether it just uses
'latin1' regardless.
Thanks for this info - with the encoding issues I am still quite confused.
Thanks
Rainer
/Paul
Understanding "Encoding" problems
Hi I am sruggling understanding the encoding and if LaTeX / LyX use the same as BibTeX and which one I should use when and in a BibTex file, where I have different names from different countries with strange symbols, which would be the best encoding to choose? Can somebody shed some light on this issue or refer me to a website which clarifies these issues? Thanks Rainer
Re: Understanding "Encoding" problems
Rainer M. Krug schrieb am 21.06.2007: I am sruggling understanding the encoding and if LaTeX / LyX use the same as BibTeX and which one I should use when and in a BibTex file, where I have different names from different countries with strange symbols, which would be the best encoding to choose? Can somebody shed some light on this issue or refer me to a website which clarifies these issues? BibTeX does not support UTF-8 encoding at all, see e.g. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/8aefd925c735c842 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/dadb7d2a89166e42 http://groups.google.com/group/de.comp.text.tex/msg/1293749bb77ae20d (the last one is in German) Regards, Dominik.-
SOLVED: LyX 1.44: Questionmarks instead of citations
Hi
I solved the problem.
I used to use bibtexall, a script to run bibtex, which I did not copy
over to my new machine.
I simply changed it back to the default.
Thanks everybody for your help,
Rainer
Paul A. Rubin wrote:
Rainer M. Krug wrote:
I just managed to reproduce it with a default new file and two
references. I attache the bibtex file, the lyx file, the resulting pdf
and the latex log
This is very strange and I don't have any ideas what could be the
problem.
When BibTeX citations mysteriously fail, usually the first thing I look
for is an indigestible .bib file, which seems to be the problem here. I
compiled you doc using both LyX and export to LaTeX/manual compile, and
both failed as they did for you. Then I poked around the .bib file.
This file was created with JabRef 2.2.
Encoding: ISO8859_1
@INPROCEEDINGS{Baard1997,
author = {Baard, E.H.W.},
title = {A conservation strategy for the geometric tortoise,
Psammobates
I think that the character immediately after "tortoise," is causing
BibTeX digestion problems. I deleted it, save the .bib file, then
deleted and reapplied the references in the LyX document, and it then
compiled correctly.
I'm no expert on encodings, but if that character is a legitimate
character in ISO8859_1, there's still the question of whether that's
what BibTeX is using. The LyX document seems to be set for "default"
encoding (for British). I don't know enough about BibTeX to know if it
reads the encoding from the .bib file, from the .aux file (which
presumably matches the source document), or whether it just uses
'latin1' regardless.
/Paul
Re: Understanding "Encoding" problems
Dominik Waßenhoven wrote:
Rainer M. Krug schrieb am 21.06.2007:
I am sruggling understanding the encoding and if LaTeX / LyX use the
same as BibTeX and which one I should use when and in a BibTex file,
where I have different names from different countries with strange
symbols, which would be the best encoding to choose?
Can somebody shed some light on this issue or refer me to a website
which clarifies these issues?
BibTeX does not support UTF-8 encoding at all, see e.g.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/8aefd925c735c842
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/msg/dadb7d2a89166e42
http://groups.google.com/group/de.comp.text.tex/msg/1293749bb77ae20d
Thanks for the links - so in BibTex, I have to use \"{u} which I
actually prefer as it makes it universal.
But what is the encoding issue in LaTeX? Is it the same issue?
Also - is there an easy way to identify these "characters" in a bibtex
file? When I import from into JabRef, I sometimes get these strange
characters which "corrupt" the BibTeX file for usage with LaTeX and my
databases are quite large...
Rainer
(the last one is in German)
Regards,
Dominik.-
using different dictionaries in the same document
Hi, I'm working with Lyx 1.5rc1 for Windows. The main language of my document is Italian, but I'm using many English words, so I'd like to use both dictionaries for spell checking... how can I do that? Thanks
Disabling lyx socket
Dear Sir/Madam, When I want to do 'save' or 'accept all changes' lyx does not respond anymore and the error message 'Disabling lyx socket' comes up. How can I fix this? Cheers P. Paykari _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk
Re: using different dictionaries in the same document
Giuseppe Vitalone wrote: Hi, I'm working with Lyx 1.5rc1 for Windows. The main language of my document is Italian, but I'm using many English words, so I'd like to use both dictionaries for spell checking... how can I do that? Thanks LyX support this, as long as the spellchecker in use supports it. I use it for mixed English/Norwegian. Set the main language to the most-used language in the document. You already do this. For each english region in your document, do this: 1. Mark it 2. edit->Text style->customized... 3. Change the language to english, press apply Save work by leaving the dialog open. You can then mark the next english region and just hit apply again without going through menus. (Don't maximise the LyX window, leave some room for that dialog on your screen.) You will notice that all your english stuff gets a "blue underline". It will not be underlined in print of course, this is simply how LyX marks it as "foreign language". Note that "foreign language" does not work with hyperref. If you use hyperref, don't mark anything as english if it has hypertext references. (I.e. words in headings, and possibly some other cases.) When I spellcheck such documents, the correct wordlists are used for each language. Of course you must have the english wordlists for your spellchecker installed. This works well with aspell, and it does not work with ispell. I don't know about other spellceckers. Note that LyX supports several versions of the english language: "british", "english", and "american". These will invoke different wordlists - experiment to find out what works for you. I have to use "british". Helge Hafting
Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
Nick Hopton wrote: [...] In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of tables, for example. Perhaps that works on some machines (windows?), mine just adds the text "255" just as if "alt" wasn't in use. For fine adjustments that works in all cases, consider ctrl+space (protected space) or ctrl+shift+space (protected thin space). The latter is useful in other cases where you want a small separator too, such as phone numbers or as a thousands separator. Helge Hafting
LyX 1.44: Questionmarks instead of citations
Hi I know that it has been asked before, but I can't find it. So there it is again: I am having problems with bibtex. I can insert the citations in lyx without problems, but when I run pdflatex, I get questionmarks insted of the references in the text and no bibliography. In addition, the LaTeX log says: Package natbib Warning: Citation `Myers2000a' on page 5 undefined on input line 82. Package natbib Warning: Citation `Harper1977' on page 5 undefined on input line 84. for each reference. Any ideas welcome, Rainer -- NEW EMAIL ADDRESS AND ADDRESS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] WILL BE DISCONTINUED END OF MARCH Rainer M. Krug, Dipl. Phys. (Germany), MSc Conservation Biology (UCT) Leslie Hill Institute for Plant Conservation University of Cape Town Rondebosch 7701 South Africa Fax:+27 - (0)86 516 2782 Fax:+27 - (0)21 650 2440 (w) Cell: +27 - (0)83 9479 042 Skype: RMkrug email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cross-reference dialog
Hi! I am experimenting some behaviour with the cross-reference dialog that, I think, is not the most appropriate or desirable one. I am using LyX 1.4.4, so I would like to know if this also happens in Lyx 1.5 before opening a bug report. I have some labels created with help of ERT insets. To create references to these labels, I have to open the cross-reference dialog and write the name of the label in the "Label" field. Here I experience the first awkward behaviour. When the cross-reference dialog is opened LyX seems to initially place the cursor in the Label field (this is what I would like), but it removes it immediately after. As a result, I have to click with the mouse in the field in order to write the label name. Once I have done this, I use to press the "return" key. I would expect this to behave as clicking on the "OK" button. However, the result is equivalent to clicking on the "Apply" button, and the dialog remains open instead of being closed. Cheers, Nicolás
Re: Cross-reference dialog
Nicolás wrote: Hi! I am experimenting some behaviour with the cross-reference dialog that, I think, is not the most appropriate or desirable one. I am using LyX 1.4.4, so I would like to know if this also happens in Lyx 1.5 before opening a bug report. I have some labels created with help of ERT insets. I always had the impression that if the label is created with ERT, then the reference must be done using ERT and the \ref command as well. At least it works, and those capable of creating a label in ERT can usually do a \ref in ERT too. I didn't know you could insert a LyX cross ref to an ERT label. I have also found that I rarely need to insert a label via ERT. When I need a label in the middle of some latex code, I use two ERT boxes. The first contains latex code up to where I need that label. Then I insert a normal LyX label immediately after the ERT box. Finally, the last ERT box with the rest of the latex code. Splitting up the ERT like this lets me use a normal LyX label, which will show up in the cross reference dialog as usual. Helge Hafting
Re: Disabling lyx socket
Paniez Paykari wrote: When I want to do 'save' or 'accept all changes' lyx does not respond anymore and the error message 'Disabling lyx socket' comes up. How can I fix this? You'll need to give more information: What OS you are using, exactly when this happens (every time? or only sometimes?), what version of LyX you are using, etc. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re: Understanding "Encoding" problems
Rainer M. Krug wrote:
Thanks for the links - so in BibTex, I have to use \"{u} which I
actually prefer as it makes it universal.
Yes, you should use in BibTeX whatever you would use in LaTeX.
Also - is there an easy way to identify these "characters" in a bibtex
file? When I import from into JabRef, I sometimes get these strange
characters which "corrupt" the BibTeX file for usage with LaTeX and my
databases are quite large...
Check your encoding settings in JabRef. These are under the General tab
of the Preferences dialog.
Richard
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Re: help on keyboard shortcut
Dominik Waßenhoven wrote: Richard Heck schrieb am 20.06.2007: Bob Alvarez wrote: 2. insert a space in the text after the ERT. This seems tricky, as I can't see how just to insert a space. space-insert normal That's not a normal space. I get an "inter-word" space by inserting that, and it shows up at the start of the line. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re: Cross-reference dialog
I have also found that I rarely need to insert a label via ERT. When I need a label in the middle of some latex code, I use two ERT boxes. The first contains latex code up to where I need that label. Then I insert a normal LyX label immediately after the ERT box. Finally, the last ERT box with the rest of the latex code. Splitting up the ERT like this lets me use a normal LyX label, which will show up in the cross reference dialog as usual. Helge Hafting In may case it is not a normal label, but one used to refer to a line number in an algorithm. I need to use the command \lnl, so I really need to use an ERT box. Nicolás
pyxplot-produced eps-file insert in lyx-document
I produce diagrams with PyXPlot and export them as .eps files via Lyx into my document. Since Pyxplot uses Latex for text, I can set the same fontsize in the diagram as in my document. However, I have to make sure the figure is put into the float correctly. I am using twocolumn style and have figures which either fit in one of the columns or span both columns. There are various ways of setting the size of the diagram for the export from Lyx. e.g. size% pt mm,cm... text% col% page% theight% , pheight% Which setting is suited? If I set the width of my diagram to e.g. 6cm, I could use 6cm width in the setting. However, the 6cm refer to the x-axis length, not including the y-axis text. Any setting takes care of this? Wolfgang
Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:31:28 +0100 Nick Hopton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a recent message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. > > [...] > >Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in > >my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding > >extra white spaces. > > >Allowing extra white space, knowing that it will be wiped out by > >LaTeX, is at best useless, at worst misleading. > [...] > > In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by > inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key > combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of > tables, for example. Of course - and you can get protected white spaces in any number of other ways by using other Latex constructs. But that is neither useless nor misleading. In my view, allowing "normal" spaces is both. Cheers, Alan > > Regards, > Nick. > > -- > Nick Hopton and Anne Hopton > Caversham, Reading, England > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
Typhoon wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:47:20 +1000 Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra white spaces. Allowing extra white space, knowing that it will be wiped out by LaTeX, is at best useless, at worst misleading. Furthermore, this behaviour of Lyx is one of the things that I point out to beginners to distinguish Lyx from their old word processor. It is a simple, yet powerful, way to show them the advantages of leaving formatting to the latex engine. Cheers, Alan I second this. My only complaint was that earlier versions nagged me in the status line whenever I hit the space bar twice in a row (which is a combination of old habits and bad typing, not a lack of understanding of why consecutive spaces won't work). The current version only nags the first time, which I think is ideal. /Paul
Re: help on keyboard shortcut
Richard Heck wrote:
2. insert a space in the text after the ERT.
This seems tricky, as I can't see how just to insert a space.
Indeed. I crabbed once about the fact that trailing spaces are
eliminated when an LFUN is processed. Don't know if anyone entered an
enhancement request for a way to insert an ordinary space.
But this
will do:
self-insert a b; delete-backward; char-backward; delete-backward;
char-forward
So the whole thing would be:
\bind "C-y""command-sequence ert-insert; self-insert
\noindent; char-forward; self-insert a b; delete-backward;
char-backward; delete-backward; char-forward"
Or perhaps better yet:
"command-sequence ert-insert; self-insert \noindent a;
delete-backward; next-inset-toggle"
Then you get the space inside ERT, and the inset is collapsed for you.
If, as I suspect, Bob wants the space just to keep \noindent from
running into the text, a somewhat simpler solution is
"command-sequence ert-insert; self-insert \noindent{}; char-forward;"
/Paul
Question about preview converters
I am still having problems with the use of .svg files on 1.5.0beta on my new Linux install (scroll down to previous message if interested). It would seem that LyX is ignoring my settings for SVG>png (the preview format, I presume?) conversion and what I would like to know is: where are the default converter settings held? Knowing the name of this script or config file would be a great help. Thanks for any help. -- http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, music, geek sitcom etc. http://www.unmusic.co.uk/amhs/ - alt.music.home-studio
Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 08:27 +1000, Typhoon wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:47:20 +1000 > Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) > > Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my > strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra > white spaces. > > Allowing extra white space, knowing that it will be wiped out by LaTeX, > is at best useless, at worst misleading. Clearly you haven't read my original post because it was to the lyx-devel list and the thread crossed over by mistake. Please let me set the record straight before I find myself hearing about this for the next month. 8<8<8<8<8< Hi all, once upon a time, I could type extra whitespace between words and then it would magically go away when I left that region of text. Now, extra space keypresses have no effect and I feel like I'm in a straight-jacket. I can still insert a space *before* an existing space, because I might be about to type a word between them, just not after one. Anybody else get that feeling or prefer the old behaviour? Also I point out that LyX still allows a permanent dangling space at the end of a paragraph which is even less consistent with the current ... behaviour. Have fun, Darren
