Re: [Lubuntu-qa] keymap us(alt-intl) not working as expected.

2013-11-02 Thread Nio Wiklund 
On 2013-11-01 23:34, Federico Leoni wrote:
> Before open a bug (if possible for a single layout) I would like to
> see if anyone is suffering for the same issue.
> 
> For my work and for real life I write a lot in English, Italian and
> Portuguese so on all my system desktop (Lubuntu 13.04), netbook and
> notebook (Lubuntu 13.10), I set my keyboard to US alternative
> international.
> What I expect pressing the key " ' " followed by " c " from the
> keyboard is  the special char " ç " (ALT code 135) but on 13.10 it
> read it as a " ć ", when on 13.04 is working as expected.
> I tried to configure it with the new keyboard layout Handler applet
> and with the old-but-good Lxkeymap but Lubuntu simply seems to ignore
> the existence of that char. The rest of the keyboard is working fine.
> This char is really important for Portuguese so it's a big problerm
> for me.
> I can change the keyboard layout without troubles, so the issue seems
> to be related to this specific layer.
> I tried with a standard Ubuntu 13.04/13.10 live, same behavior.
> 
> I hope you will understand what I mean, if no one as any clues I'll open a 
> bug.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> F.
> 
I can confirm this behaviour also with Swedish keyboard

Examples

Acute accent + c  prints ç in 12.04.3 but ć in 13.10
Acute accent + e  prints é in 12.04.3 and 13.10

When I log in from a Lubuntu 13.10 client via ssh to a Xubuntu 12.04.3
ssh server, I get the 13.10 behaviour, so it seems connected to the
keyboard setting rather than interpreting the ascii code.

So please file a bug report and post the bug number. I will add 'affects
me too'.

Best regards
Nio

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu fake-PAE installed system image file for Lubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander

2013-11-02 Thread Nio Wiklund 
Hi, Kadrija,

It was fairly easy but not quite straight-forward to make a Lubuntu Core
tarball from the Ubuntu 13.10 mini.iso. Please test it and let us know
how it works for you :-)

I have uploaded a tarball with the following md5sum and name to phillw.net

3d3064f982681bc1c78624d16062e6b9  tarballs/LubuntuCoreSaucy.tar.xz

There is fake-PAE. But in order to make the network portable I also
installed 'network-manager' and tweaked it according to this link

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network

Best regards
Nio



On 2013-11-02 09:47, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> That's good Kadrija,
> 
> Now I know what to make:
> 
> Lubuntu core with fake-pae.
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> On 2013-11-02 09:41, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
>> Hi Nio
>> I would prefer to have it just with fake-pae flag and no other
>> customisations if possible.
>> My laptop is dell latitude d505:
>>
>>  *-cpu
>>   description: CPU
>>   product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
>>   vendor: Intel Corp.
>>   physical id: 400
>>   bus info: cpu@0
>>   version: 6.9.5
>>   slot: Microprocessor
>>   size: 1500MHz
>>   capacity: 1800MHz
>>   width: 32 bits
>>   clock: 133MHz
>>   capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr mce
>> cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pbe up
>> bts est tm2 cpufreq
>>
>> I'm sure it has pae but it is not listed in cpu-flags.
>> I'm currently running windows XP but I'm thinking of installing Lubuntu
>> which it ran a year ago.
>>
>>
>> On 2 November 2013 09:00, Nio Wiklund > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kadrija,
>>
>> I see. Yes I can make such a tarball and upload it.
>>
>> How do you think such a tarball is most useful?  Would you prefer to
>> have it as pure as possible, even without fake-PAE? (It will boot and
>> run, but you need to install fake-PAE in order to upgrade the kernel.)
>>
>> -o-
>>
>> Before trying a PAE kernel, check that the CPU has PAE capability
>> (Pentium M or Celeron M). Lubuntu 13.10 is not an option for "pre
>> Pentium II" CPUs without PAE capability.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>> On 2013-11-02 08:46, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
>> > I meant it would be nice to have a tarball with lubuntu-core
>> instead of
>> > the full lubuntu-desktop system.
>> > I have a no-pae flag laptop and I prefer a minimal lubuntu-core system
>> > to which I can add things I need.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2 November 2013 05:27, Nio Wiklund > 
>> > >> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 2013-11-01 17:28, Federico Leoni wrote:
>> > > Well, in theory yes.
>> > > You need to wait a reply from Nio if he can do that or make it
>> > yourself.
>> > > Simply create your install with just what you need and then
>> start your
>> > > system with OBI usb and create the tarball from the menu.
>> Quite easy.
>> > >
>> > > F.
>> > >
>> > > Em 01/11/2013 13:29, "Kadrija Hrlovic" > 
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > > >
>> > > Is it possible to have OBI with just lubuntu-core?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Lubuntu-users mailing list
>> > > lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
>> 
>> > > >
>> > > 
>> > > >>
>> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
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>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Federico is right. You can do it yourself. But it might be
>> valuable for
>> > many people to have a tarball with lubuntu-core, so I could
>> make and
>> > upload one. Please decribe is more detail what you want and
>> need ...
>> >
>> > Best regards
>> > Nio
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
> 


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu fake-PAE installed system image file for Lubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander

2013-11-02 Thread Nio Wiklund 
Hi Kadrija,
I will reply inline
Best regards
Nio

On 2013-11-02 19:08, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> Thank you very much Nio.
> I've just read OBI documentation and discovered to my horror that it
> cannot be used for dualboot system which is what I had in mind :(

Well, not dual boot within the same drive, but it you have two drives it
is possible. So you can boot your Pentium M equipped computer from 'an
installed system' in a USB drive. A USB 2 pendrive is OK. A USB 3
pendrive or a USB 2 HDD are faster.

And in April your XP will reach its end of life, and then you should not
take the risk and run it without security updates.

> I don't want to get rid of Windows XP on my laptop.
> Is there any way of installing the latest Lubuntu without starting from
> non-pae mini.iso 12.04?

Yes. There are alternatives. I suggest that you try Lubuntu fake-PAE
'grub-n-iso', where grub helps you boot from the regular Lubuntu 13.10
iso file.

See these links

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grub-n-iso

Good luck
Nio

> On 2 November 2013 15:34, Nio Wiklund  > wrote:
> 
> Hi, Kadrija,
> 
> It was fairly easy but not quite straight-forward to make a Lubuntu Core
> tarball from the Ubuntu 13.10 mini.iso. Please test it and let us know
> how it works for you :-)
> 
> I have uploaded a tarball with the following md5sum and name to
> phillw.net 
> 
> 3d3064f982681bc1c78624d16062e6b9  tarballs/LubuntuCoreSaucy.tar.xz
> 
> There is fake-PAE. But in order to make the network portable I also
> installed 'network-manager' and tweaked it according to this link
> 
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> 
> 
> On 2013-11-02 09:47, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > That's good Kadrija,
> >
> > Now I know what to make:
> >
> > Lubuntu core with fake-pae.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > On 2013-11-02 09:41, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> >> Hi Nio
> >> I would prefer to have it just with fake-pae flag and no other
> >> customisations if possible.
> >> My laptop is dell latitude d505:
> >>
> >>  *-cpu
> >>   description: CPU
> >>   product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
> >>   vendor: Intel Corp.
> >>   physical id: 400
> >>   bus info: cpu@0
> >>   version: 6.9.5
> >>   slot: Microprocessor
> >>   size: 1500MHz
> >>   capacity: 1800MHz
> >>   width: 32 bits
> >>   clock: 133MHz
> >>   capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc
> msr mce
> >> cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm
> pbe up
> >> bts est tm2 cpufreq
> >>
> >> I'm sure it has pae but it is not listed in cpu-flags.
> >> I'm currently running windows XP but I'm thinking of installing
> Lubuntu
> >> which it ran a year ago.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 November 2013 09:00, Nio Wiklund  
> >> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Kadrija,
> >>
> >> I see. Yes I can make such a tarball and upload it.
> >>
> >> How do you think such a tarball is most useful?  Would you
> prefer to
> >> have it as pure as possible, even without fake-PAE? (It will
> boot and
> >> run, but you need to install fake-PAE in order to upgrade the
> kernel.)
> >>
> >> -o-
> >>
> >> Before trying a PAE kernel, check that the CPU has PAE capability
> >> (Pentium M or Celeron M). Lubuntu 13.10 is not an option for "pre
> >> Pentium II" CPUs without PAE capability.
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Nio
> >>
> >> On 2013-11-02 08:46, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> >> > I meant it would be nice to have a tarball with lubuntu-core
> >> instead of
> >> > the full lubuntu-desktop system.
> >> > I have a no-pae flag laptop and I prefer a minimal
> lubuntu-core system
> >> > to which I can add things I need.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2 November 2013 05:27, Nio Wiklund
> mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
> >> >
> >> >     >> >
> >> > On 2013-11-01 17:28, Federico Leoni wrote:
> >> > > Well, in theory yes.
> >> > > You need to wait a reply from Nio if he can do that
> or make it
> >> > yourself.
> >> >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu fake-PAE installed system image file for Lubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander

2013-11-02 Thread Nio Wiklund 
Good luck!

I think the lubuntu-core image can be useful for other people.
And please report back, when you have results from 'grub-n-iso' :-)

I think 'grub-n-iso' will install, but if not (due to low RAM), consider
installing with the OBI, before or at the end of life of XP.

Best regards Nio

On 2013-11-02 22:04, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> Thank you Nio and sorry for wasting your time.
> It must have take a lot of time and effort to create the image and
> upload it to the site.
> I hope there will be people who will use your lubuntu-core image.
> I've downloaded Lubuntu-13.10-desktop-grub-n-iso-n-swap.img.gz and will
> install it when I get my hands on an extra USB stick.
> I hope I will be able to install it since I've only got 512Mb of RAM.
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> On 2 November 2013 20:45, Nio Wiklund  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Kadrija,
> I will reply inline
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
> On 2013-11-02 19:08, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> > Thank you very much Nio.
> > I've just read OBI documentation and discovered to my horror that it
> > cannot be used for dualboot system which is what I had in mind :(
> 
> Well, not dual boot within the same drive, but it you have two drives it
> is possible. So you can boot your Pentium M equipped computer from 'an
> installed system' in a USB drive. A USB 2 pendrive is OK. A USB 3
> pendrive or a USB 2 HDD are faster.
> 
> And in April your XP will reach its end of life, and then you should not
> take the risk and run it without security updates.
> 
> > I don't want to get rid of Windows XP on my laptop.
> > Is there any way of installing the latest Lubuntu without starting
> from
> > non-pae mini.iso 12.04?
> 
> Yes. There are alternatives. I suggest that you try Lubuntu fake-PAE
> 'grub-n-iso', where grub helps you boot from the regular Lubuntu 13.10
> iso file.
> 
> See these links
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grub-n-iso
> 
> Good luck
> Nio
> 
> > On 2 November 2013 15:34, Nio Wiklund  
> > >> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Kadrija,
> >
> > It was fairly easy but not quite straight-forward to make a
> Lubuntu Core
> > tarball from the Ubuntu 13.10 mini.iso. Please test it and let
> us know
> > how it works for you :-)
> >
> > I have uploaded a tarball with the following md5sum and name to
> > phillw.net  
> >
> > 3d3064f982681bc1c78624d16062e6b9  tarballs/LubuntuCoreSaucy.tar.xz
> >
> > There is fake-PAE. But in order to make the network portable I
> also
> > installed 'network-manager' and tweaked it according to this link
> >
> >
> 
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Unmanaged_Wired_Network
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2013-11-02 09:47, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > > That's good Kadrija,
> > >
> > > Now I know what to make:
> > >
> > > Lubuntu core with fake-pae.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Nio
> > >
> > > On 2013-11-02 09:41, Kadrija Hrlovic wrote:
> > >> Hi Nio
> > >> I would prefer to have it just with fake-pae flag and no other
> > >> customisations if possible.
> > >> My laptop is dell latitude d505:
> > >>
> > >>  *-cpu
> > >>   description: CPU
> > >>   product: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz
> > >>   vendor: Intel Corp.
> > >>   physical id: 400
> > >>   bus info: cpu@0
> > >>   version: 6.9.5
> > >>   slot: Microprocessor
> > >>   size: 1500MHz
> > >>   capacity: 1800MHz
> > >>   width: 32 bits
> > >>   clock: 133MHz
> > >>   capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc
> > msr mce
> > >> cx8 mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm
> > pbe up
> > >> bts est tm2 cpufreq
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure it has pae but it is not listed in cpu-flags.
> > >> I'm currently running windows XP but I'm thinking of installing
> > Lubuntu
> > >> which it ran a year ago.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2 November 2013 09:00, Nio Wiklund
> mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > >>

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Brainstorming Report] Ready To Go!

2013-11-02 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Iberê Fernandes  wrote:

> 2013/10/28 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>
>> Dear Everyone,
>>
>> For the last week or so, despite the fact that I was sick, I worked so
>> hard on the Brainstorming Area and I'd like to announce that the initial
>> preparation has been done and the area is Ready To Go :)
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming
>>
>> 40 different idea/suggestions - thanks to everyone who participated so
>> far to put these all together :)
>>
>> From my side, I think I have nothing more to add. From the Brainstorming
>> Team's side, the team is doing a great job and up to any task :)
>>
>> Now, it is maybe time for other teams or the whole Lubuntu Team to decide
>> when someone can look more carefully and seriously at the 40 ideas :)
>>
>> Let me know if you need anything!
>>
>> Thank you and have a great day/night :)
>>
>> --
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>> Best Regards,
>> amjjawad 
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> Ali,
>
> Thank you for leading the Brainstorm activities.
>

Thank you and you are more than welcome :)


> Now the most important part after the brainstorming is to develop, I mean,
> to implement those ideas. (or at least the most important ideas)
>
> Who are the people/team/subteams that will be in charge of those ideas?
>

There are about 42 suggestions/ideas. Some are already assigned to
Sub-Teams. Some are not because the discussion is not yet done.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming

Whenever you see "New', it means nothing has been discussed.
Whenever you see "Discussion", it means the discussion has started
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>
> Btw, I heard that next vUDS booking date is due to tomorrow. Has anybody
> already signed in?
>
> Best regards!
>

Yes, I have signed, thanks for the reminder :)


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] keymap us(alt-intl) not working as expected.

2013-11-02 Thread Andre Rodovalho 
Do you have this problem on Lubuntu 13.04?

I updated to 13.10 from 13.04... LxKeymap is still here, and also the
lxpannel widget... But I have no problems with this caracters. Maybe the
language installed makes difference, I installed with Portuguese-BR using
US Keyboard with dead keys!


2013/11/2 Nio Wiklund 

> On 2013-11-01 23:34, Federico Leoni wrote:
> > Before open a bug (if possible for a single layout) I would like to
> > see if anyone is suffering for the same issue.
> >
> > For my work and for real life I write a lot in English, Italian and
> > Portuguese so on all my system desktop (Lubuntu 13.04), netbook and
> > notebook (Lubuntu 13.10), I set my keyboard to US alternative
> > international.
> > What I expect pressing the key " ' " followed by " c " from the
> > keyboard is  the special char " ç " (ALT code 135) but on 13.10 it
> > read it as a " ć ", when on 13.04 is working as expected.
> > I tried to configure it with the new keyboard layout Handler applet
> > and with the old-but-good Lxkeymap but Lubuntu simply seems to ignore
> > the existence of that char. The rest of the keyboard is working fine.
> > This char is really important for Portuguese so it's a big problerm
> > for me.
> > I can change the keyboard layout without troubles, so the issue seems
> > to be related to this specific layer.
> > I tried with a standard Ubuntu 13.04/13.10 live, same behavior.
> >
> > I hope you will understand what I mean, if no one as any clues I'll open
> a bug.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > F.
> >
> I can confirm this behaviour also with Swedish keyboard
>
> Examples
>
> Acute accent + c  prints ç in 12.04.3 but ć in 13.10
> Acute accent + e  prints é in 12.04.3 and 13.10
>
> When I log in from a Lubuntu 13.10 client via ssh to a Xubuntu 12.04.3
> ssh server, I get the 13.10 behaviour, so it seems connected to the
> keyboard setting rather than interpreting the ascii code.
>
> So please file a bug report and post the bug number. I will add 'affects
> me too'.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
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