[loongson-dev] Lemote mini-pc NOT supporting external usb-2.0 Trendnet TU-ET100?
-- Forwarded message -- From: Javier Vasquez Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:35 PM Subject: Re: Lemote mini-pc NOT supporting external usb-2.0 Trendnet TU-ET100? To: debian-m...@lists.debian.org On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Javier Vasquez > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> With a Lemote mini-pc 2F6004: >> >> % cat /proc/cpuinfo >> system type : lemote-fuloong-2f-box >> processor : 0 >> cpu model : ICT Loongson-2 V0.3 FPU V0.1 >> BogoMIPS : 530.43 >> wait instruction : yes >> microsecond timers : yes >> tlb_entries : 64 >> extra interrupt vector : no >> hardware watchpoint : yes, count: 0, address/irw mask: [] >> ASEs implemented : >> shadow register sets : 1 >> core : 0 >> VCED exceptions : not available >> VCEI exceptions : not available >> >> I tried enabling an external USB NIC, using a TrendNet TU2-ET100, >> which is supported by usbnet driver: >> >> http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet >> >> I'm using the debian experimental kernel: >> >> % uname -a >> Linux mini-0 2.6.37-trunk-loongson-2f #1 Fri Jan 7 10:10:56 UTC 2011 >> mips64 GNU/Linux >> >> Under debian gnu/linux. Notice I installed debian by ffirst >> installing gnew-sense, sincer debian doesn't suppot lemote under its >> installers yet. >> >> I could actually see the external NIC work for a little while, and >> after copying from another machine a 104M file, the NIC was just >> shutdown: >> >> [ 4763.132000] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address >> 5 >> [ 4763.276000] usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0b95, idProduct=7720 >> [ 4763.276000] usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, >> SerialNumber=3 >> [ 4763.276000] usb 1-1: Product: AX88772 >> [ 4763.276000] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: ASIX Elec. Corp. >> [ 4763.276000] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 01 >> [ 4764.26] asix 1-1:1.0: eth1: register 'asix' at >> usb-:00:0e.5-1, ASIX AX88772 USB 2.0 Ethernet, 00:50:b6:08:1c:5f >> [ 4764.26] usbcore: registered new interface driver asix >> [ 6019.936000] eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 >> [ 6020.14] eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1 >> [ 6030.176000] eth1: no IPv6 routers present >> [ 6123.704000] ehci_hcd :00:0e.5: force halt; handshake >> 900050071014 4000 -> -145 >> [ 6123.704000] ehci_hcd :00:0e.5: can't reschedule qh >> 9800bb084f00, err -145 >> [ 6123.704000] ehci_hcd :00:0e.5: force halt; handshake >> 900050071014 4000 4000 -> -145 >> [ 6123.704000] ehci_hcd :00:0e.5: HC died; cleaning up >> [ 6123.716000] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 5 >> [ 6123.716000] asix 1-1:1.0: eth1: unregister 'asix' >> usb-:00:0e.5-1, ASIX AX88772 USB 2.0 Ethernet >> >> I'm not sure whether this is a kernel bug, or a HW problem. Recently >> I had problems with the internal NIC most probably due to HW problems, >> on the checksum computation by HW... I need to enable a 2nd NIC in >> order to make the mini-pc work as a gateway mini-server. Perhaps >> someone else has experiences with this mini-pc, and has already make >> an external NIC work already, and if so any hints would be >> appreciated. Also any hints on how to debug and file a debian >> experimental linux bug, that'd also work out, :-) If faster solution >> is to use an external NIC known to work, please let me know so I can >> try acquiring it... >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Javier. >> > > I've also tried the gnew-sense (metad) linux kernel with the same result: > > % uname -a > Linux mini-0 2.6.37-libre-lemote #1 PREEMPT Thu Jan 6 11:56:46 UTC > 2011 mips64 GNU/Linux > > Unfortunately it didn't work either, :-( > > So it might be that the USB controller is buggy? Any ways, just > wanted to report in case someone might ggest that... Any suggestions > are welcome... Have also tried the anheng 2.6.37 and 2.6.38 kernels. Again no luck. BTW, I tried on a ia64 box, and the TU2-ET100 works really nice on it. I think my suspision upon broken USB controller is more than that. Again, any help is appreciated. -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
[loongson-dev] Bug#615609: linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2: Lemote mini-pc with linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2 doesn't support external usb NIC (TU2-ET100)
Just to let you know the problem is still present under 2.6.37-2 debian kernel and 2.6.38-1 debian kernel... -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: Bug#615609: [loongson-dev] Bug#615609: linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2: Lemote mini-pc with linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2 doesn't support external usb NIC (TU2-ET100)
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:42 PM, wu zhangjin wrote: > Hi, Javier > > Thanks very much for your report. > > I don't have such a USB to reproduce the problem, hope the folks from > Lemote can work on it. thanks! > > Regards, > Wu Zhangjin Any sugestions on how to try debugging this? -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: Bug#615609: [loongson-dev] Bug#615609: linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2: Lemote mini-pc with linux-image-2.6.37-1-loongson-2 doesn't support external usb NIC (TU2-ET100)
> 1) try this NIC with another machine (non-Loongson); Done, it works well on x86_32 and x86_64 (both intel). I've also tried: acpi=noirq usbcore.autosuspend=-1 Which in the past have been able to solve other serial usb issues, but none worked out... > 2) try another kind of NIC on this machine (e.g. there are MosChip mcs7830 > based USB NICs which also support true USB 2.0 speeds, or if USB 1.1 with 12 > mbit is enough, then Davicom dm9601 can be an option). I'll look for them. I acquired another one to try, but at the end it was based upon the same chipset, so also the same driver, so it didn't help. I'll look in the web... > > As for trying different module parameters you mentioned earlier, usbnet and > asix do not have any tunables, but ehci_hcd does have some, you can check > them out with "sudo modinfo ehci_hcd". Thanks a lot Roman, I'll investigate as soon as possible. I'd like a work around before going to buy something else, so this will be my first step, :-) So far no luck, but I'll keep trying, and if anyone gets to find something, please let me know... Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
[loongson-dev] Doesn't loongson 2f based mini-pc comes with acpi?
Perhaps a non smart question, but I'm wondering whether there's a way to enable acpi on loongson based systems... See, I get: % ls /proc | grep -i acpi % % ls /sys/module | grep -i acpi % And I've tried adding boot parameters: acpi=force and: acpi=force apic lapic those coming from web examples, but none has worked out... I've trid in debian 2.6.39 and archloong 2.6.38.4, and none seems to enable acpi... Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Doesn't loongson 2f based mini-pc comes with acpi?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Roman Mamedov wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:24:00 -0600 > Javier Vasquez wrote: > >> Perhaps a non smart question, but I'm wondering whether there's a way >> to enable acpi on loongson based systems... > > Hello, > > What benefit would you expect to gain from getting ACPI on the mini-PC? > > - there are no temperature sensors on it, physically; > - fan speed can not be controlled; > - CPU frequency scaling does not require ACPI; > - suspend/resume does not require ACPI; > - maybe I am missing something? > > -- > With respect, > Roman I'm used to have conky showing information such as frequency and temperature (I didn't know there was no thermal sensor) for example, and acpitool to suspend. I agree to suspend one can directly set /sys/power/state to disk, and I use it, but I had to cerate a wrapper that prior turns network off, and after turns network on, otherwise network is lost. That usually was covered by acpitool -S, of course having acpi enabled. So not necessarily needed, but for me it's been there for other architectures, so I kind of missed acpi stuff. Didn't know it was not required at all. I just noticed I didn't have acpi support, and the few acpi tools available didn't work, :-) That's why I mentioned non smart question, perhaps I should have mentioned dumb one instead, :-) Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Doesn't loongson 2f based mini-pc comes with acpi?
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:06 AM, zhangfx wrote: > There is no standard acpi support in current loongson based systems. > OK, thanks... -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
[loongson-dev] Debian bug #636170: linux-image-3.0.0-1-loongson-2f doesn't allow some connections through iptables
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636170 For some reason the linux kernel 3.0.0-1 from debian for loongson-2f doesn't allow certain connections from boxes connected to a lemote mini-pc gateway (internal NIC) while it connects to the outside through pppoe and a external usb NIC... It seems something broke iptables... Any one familiar with the issue? If interested on providing information to the bug, you can send message to: 636...@bugs.debian.org Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Selecting an operating system for your new Lemote Yeeloong
On 1/4/12, Daniel Clark wrote: > ... operating systems on the Yeeloong... (Note that this list purposefully > only includes > distributions that are easy for English-only speakers to install/use.) > > ... > > 1. *Rescue Media* > ... > > 2. *Parabola GNU/Linux* > ... > You will need to have another operating system running before installing > Parabola. You might install ArchLoong, and then move to parabola... See below, :-) > > 3. *Gentoo GNU/Linux* > ... > > 4. *Debian GNU/Linux* (BJLX / Chinese variant) > ... > > 5. *OpenBSD* > ... > > 6. *NixOS GNU/Linux* > ... Not sure if you're missing gNewSense (http://www.gnewsense.org/Projects/Lemote) and ArchLoong (http://www.archloong.info/archlinux). You didn't enumerate gNewSense, though you mentioned its installer is broken (if it's, I'd guess not for good)... gNewSense should be easy on English, and for the ArchLoong the installation instructions are in English, and if one is used to the Arch way, then it should be not much of a problem, :-) BTW, gNewSense is in the free list as well as parabola... The lemote community has more complete list here: http://dev.lemote.com/code/linux-loongson-community -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Selecting an operating system for your new Lemote Yeeloong
On 1/5/12, Daniel Clark wrote: > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Nicolás Reynolds wrote: > >> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 23:31:16 -0600, Javier Vasquez >> >> wrote: >> > On 1/4/12, Daniel Clark wrote: >> > > 2. *Parabola GNU/Linux* >> > > ... >> > > You will need to have another operating system running before >> installing >> > > Parabola. >> > >> > You might install ArchLoong, and then move to parabola... See below, >> > :-) >> >> Hi, this might be a little more difficult, since afaik archloong uses the >> o32 >> abi and we're using n32. >> > > Ah, good to know. So given that Parabola both uses a faster ABI and has a > freedom advantage, is there a good reason for anyone to use Archloong, > other than a pre-existing personal dedication to the Arch name? > Both lack a good amount of packages porting. Archloong installation is pretty easy. There's a live image you call from pmon, and then to install from it, feels just like Arch. On the other side, some non-free stuff is removed from Parabola, which is the purpose of it (and what's important to you), but there are limitations with multimedia and the like, which not everyone might like. So having a totally free, and a non so free versions of Arch is nice and healthy. BTW, parabola calls its loongson distribution mips64el, which I don't understand yet, given they are not using n64, :-) And another thing that is a mistery to me is why parabola ported mplayer2, and not mplayer, whereas archlinux is already dropping mplayer2 from community, and mplayer remains there... So at the end, you need to see overall what affinity you have with the distro, regarding the different aspects of it (might be the most important one is freedom, performance might be it, also media sharing). Just my $0.02... -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Selecting an operating system for your new Lemote Yeeloong
>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Alexandre "asm" >>> ... >>> >>> I was using the specific sense (on the Lemote Yeeloong only). Due to its >>> use of a faster ABI then most distros which still use o32 (I think all >>> except parabola and gentoo are still o32 based?), and also having a bunch >>> of loongson2f-specific tweaks in apps etc. BTW, any distro using "-mabi=64"? Is it actually possible or not? Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Selecting an operating system for your new Lemote Yeeloong
On 1/15/12, Javier Vasquez wrote: >>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Alexandre "asm" >>>> >>>>> ... >>>> >>>> I was using the specific sense (on the Lemote Yeeloong only). Due to >>>> its >>>> use of a faster ABI then most distros which still use o32 (I think all >>>> except parabola and gentoo are still o32 based?), and also having a >>>> bunch >>>> of loongson2f-specific tweaks in apps etc. > > > BTW, any distro using "-mabi=64"? Is it actually possible or not? Ups, just to clarify, that would be I believe n64. gcc also offers "-mabi=o64" but that's similar to n32, it's like 32 bits having some regs and funtion args in 64 bits... So I really was asking for what gcc offers as plain 64, or what I believe would be n64... Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Selecting an operating system for your new Lemote Yeeloong
On 1/15/12, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: > On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30:51AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Alexandre "asm" >> >>> >> >>>> ... >> >>> >> >>> I was using the specific sense (on the Lemote Yeeloong only). Due to >> >>> its >> >>> use of a faster ABI then most distros which still use o32 (I think all >> >>> except parabola and gentoo are still o32 based?), and also having a >> >>> bunch >> >>> of loongson2f-specific tweaks in apps etc. >> >> >> BTW, any distro using "-mabi=64"? Is it actually possible or not? > > Nixos is n32 based too - I noticed the list of non-o32 missed it. It should > be > easy to try that mabi 64 on nixos, but why would you want that? According to this: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/WhatsWrongWithO32N32N64 n64 provides 64 bits "pointer", meaning addresses, whereas n32 doesn't, and that's the major difference, right? To me that means able to address bigger physical memory... But beyond that, here: http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/TheCaseForN32 They recommend n64 and dropping n32 given there's gain in addressing space, still there's the gain in 64 bits registers as there is for n32, and there's one less ABI to support. I was just wondering, if there was then any n64 distro out there... To the extent I've look, seems not, :-) Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
[loongson-dev] Any gparted kind of live usb image for loongson-2f?
Hi, I want to resize and move some partitions through gparted (including the root one), but that's only possible when the partitions are unmounted, and so it can't be done sith the system running on the internal disk. I tried to create my own with debian-live, but it seems not to support mipsel. Any available image I could use? Essentially with cfdisk and gparted, :-) Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Any gparted kind of live usb image for loongson-2f?
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM, wrote: > Maybe this: > > http://wiki.pdaxrom.org/index.php/Lemote_YeeLoong_8089_Notebook > > No idea if it ships with cfdisk and gparted, though. I'm not sure whether this image is built exclusively for the notebooks, but on my mini-pc, the boot process just hangs with a blank screen , so I see no messges, :-( It might be stuck at the initrd execution... So I couldn't find out if this one comes with gparted (X required) or not. Thanks any ways, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] Any gparted kind of live usb image for loongson-2f?
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:01 PM, 钟佳佳 wrote: > try the kernel below > > http://updates.lemote.com/update/recovery/Fanatic/1.7.7/vmlinuz > gparted not included . > cp it somewhere that you can load it . > > for example: > load /dev/fs/ext2@usb0/boot/vmlinuz > g console=tty > > ignor the green recovery tool if you could get It comes without gparted and no X either, so no luck. BTW, by not providing the "rescue=usbdisk" argument the kernel loads without the recovery tool. Also, I loaded it from my HD boot partition with no problem. I have another minimalistic archloong rescue image, but it doesn't provide gparted, neither X... So, perhaps I'm out of luck? I attempted building my own image from debian-live, but it doesn't support mips* yet, :-( Thanks, Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
Re: [loongson-dev] http://www.anheng.com.cn/loongson2f/
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:57 AM, sense M wrote: > now ,it's can access Hmm, it's been looking down here for 2 weeks now, :-( -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev?hl=en.
[loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
Any one know if there are any 3a/3b mini-pcs (fuloong like) available? I've looked into: http://www.lemote.com/en/products But it seems only 2f mini-pcs still... Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
On 7/18/13, liu shiwei wrote: > diy minipc ,use lemote 3a Motherboard. You mean "building my own" I'd gues, :-) Lemote doesn't seem to offer 3a/3b motherboards: http://www.lemote.com/en/products/cpu/2010/0310/114.html Well, perhaps not in English any ways... Thanks, Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
| On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Fuxin Zhang wrote: | Lemote has 3A motherboards(mini-ITX and others), but due to power/price etc. | we don't think it is suitable to build a 3A box like miniPC. | | For the motherboards themselves shipment will be a little bit troublesome so | we have not put it to retail pages. | | Recently we are planning to have a promotion to sell some loong machines at | low prices, maybe you can get Loongson3A laptop or others to play with. | | Anyway I have let our sales to contact with you to see whether we can | satisfy your requirement. | | Regards | 于 2013/7/19 12:11, Javier Vasquez 写道: OK, thanks, I'll be waiting... Or let me know if I need to contact someone, :-) Some questions: 1.- Did Chinese government defined its ISA (instruction set architecture) already? If so, was the decision to go with MIPS like ISA? 2.- Is there any plan to go for a higher frequency technology, such as 28nm or 20nm? Is there kind of a 4a/4b coming soon? 3.- Is there a public road map, so anyone can look at it? Thanks, Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[loongson-dev] Did archloong actually passed away?
When I started with loongson-2f mini-pcs, I was pretty happy about having archloong available. For some reason I had to migrate to debian, but I tried to keep track of archloong... It seems though archloong died. Can someone confirm it actually died, or if there's any progress with it? Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] Did archloong actually passed away?
Forgot to ask, if still alive, which are the arch repos, and which are the git ones? :-) Thanks, Javier. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote: > When I started with loongson-2f mini-pcs, I was pretty happy about > having archloong available. > > For some reason I had to migrate to debian, but I tried to keep track > of archloong... > > It seems though archloong died. > > Can someone confirm it actually died, or if there's any progress with it? > > Thanks, > > -- > Javier. -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Fuxin Zhang wrote: > 于 2013/7/21 4:39, Javier Vasquez 写道: > >> | >> | 于 2013/7/19 12:11, Javier Vasquez 写道: >> >> >> OK, thanks, I'll be waiting... Or let me know if I need to contact >> someone, :-) > > She is already in the CC list(betty zha...@lemote.com). OK, I haven't been able to get any further regarding acquiring some motherboards with loongson-3a... I'm looking forward to getting 4 of them, but I have no clue how, neither which formats I could get them (2 NICs, HDMI support, etc). Any help towards acquiring such boards is welcome. -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM, David Kuehling wrote: > I recently ordered a Loongson 3A "desktop" system by just mailing zhangm > lemote . I would have preferred a bare mini-ITX board but they don't > currently sell these. They sold me the Xinghuo 6100 computer for $600 plus > shipment (and customs). Here's the product page: > > http://www.lemote.com/products/computer/fulong/348.html Thanks David... I had to use google translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemote.com%2Fproducts%2Fcomputer%2Ffulong%2F348.html Is it OK that page indicates loongson 2g/3a in the specs? I'm all for 3a. Any ways, every other places indicates 3a, :-) Also it comes with only 1 NIC. Do you know if there are other products with 2? The debian linux is having problems with USB NICs... Any ways, thanks a lot for the link and additional information. Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Fuxin Zhang wrote: > 于 2013/12/5 2:38, Javier Vasquez 写道: > >>> > > If you can accept bare board we have several models with 2+ NICs. > > Regards I can, :-) Do they have any limitation with regard the other motherboards? Or just the additional NIC? I can get the boards, and then build the systems if necessary. If that's the case, perhaps you can make your recommendations regarding power supply, fans, etc... Thanks, -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [loongson-dev] [llongson-dev] 3a/3b mini-pcs?
So no luck with the boards with multi NICs... Are there still mini-ITX with loongson 3A, with single NIC, for me to acquire then? I haven't gotten any mail back from Betty (zha...@lemote.com), so I'm wondering. Thanks, Javier. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Fuxin Zhang wrote: > 于 2013/12/5 11:52, Javier Vasquez 写道: > >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Fuxin Zhang wrote: >>> >>> 于 2013/12/5 2:38, Javier Vasquez 写道: >>> >>> If you can accept bare board we have several models with 2+ NICs. >>> >>> Regards >> >> I can, :-) >> >> Do they have any limitation with regard the other motherboards? Or >> just the additional NIC? >> >> I can get the boards, and then build the systems if necessary. If >> that's the case, perhaps you can make your recommendations regarding >> power supply, fans, etc... > > I am sorry that after checking with our customers, we can't get permission > to sell those motherboards(a server board with dual-nic and a micro-ITX > board with 5-nic). They are all customized for other vendors. In fact, > Lemote is shifting its position as a machine builder to solution > provider(motherboard,systems). > > BTW: someone asks that whether we have boards with BMC, the situation is the > same: we have a customized board with BMC but no permission to sell. > > Regards >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> > > > -- > 江苏中科梦兰电子科技有限公司 > 总经理 张福新 > zhan...@lemote.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "loongson-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Javier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[loongson-dev] Any Arch like distro for loongson-2f now a days?
Hi, Since archloong seems dead for quite a while, and parabola just killed its loongson support [1], what other Arch like option is there for loongson in general, and loongson-2f in particular? If not Arch like, what linux distros are there besides debian, gentoo, or gnewsense, to support loongson-2f? -- Javier [1] https://www.parabola.nu/news/parabola-support-for-mips64el-discontinued -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[loongson-dev] LSF/CLSF for loongson 2f (mipsel with -n 64 abi).
Hi, Are there any LSF/CLSF instructions (patches, specific hitns, and so on) specific for loongson 2F? I have 2 old lemote mini-pcs with loongson 2F, but I'd like to build from scratch a mipsel with -n64 ABI (not the common -n32 one) for them... Also pretty useful BLSF/BCLSF (beyond LSF/CLSF), to build as well applications and stuff. I'd guess building on loongson 3A/3B would be a lot faster, but getting boards from lemote, though possible, not affordable. But just in case, I'd guess by changing "-march" from loongson2f to loongson3a, that would be it (the patches for 2F would als work for 3A)... If not, then just in case, can the same references be provided for loongson 3A/3B? Thanks, -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [loongson-dev] LSF/CLSF for loongson 2f (mipsel with -n 64 abi).
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I'm sorry, but what are LSF/CLSF? Ups, I wrote them backwards, :-( LFS = Linux From Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org) CLFS = Cross LFS (http://trac.clfs.org) I'm sorry, I thought those were well known terms... > Sure, use Gentoo? :D Sure Gentoo is an alternative, though I'd rather go with LFS/CLFS if possible... BTW, though a big deal, but on Gentoo one needs to start with -n32 abi. > Again, I have no clue what BLSF or BCLSF would be. > Google searches don't say anything usefuol for ANY of these acronyms > thrown out here. Those are the "beyond" initial build: BLFS = Beyond LFS (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs) CBLFS = Community driven BLFS (http://cblfs.clfs.org/index.php/Main_Page) > Huh? Just wondering if the same flags, patches and so on, that apply for loongson 2F would also apply to 3A. That was all... BTW, searching for LFS, not mitakenly written will give you outputs on google, :-) My bad, sorry about that... Thanks, -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[loongson-dev] LFS/CLFS for loongson 2f (mipsel with -n 64 abi).
Fixing subject and others..., :-) -- Hi, Are there any LFS/CLFS instructions (patches, specific hitns, and so on) specific for loongson 2F? I have 2 old lemote mini-pcs with loongson 2F, but I'd like to build from scratch a mipsel with -n64 ABI (not the common -n32 one) for them... Also pretty useful BLFS/BCLFS (beyond LFS/CLFS), to build as well applications and stuff. I'd guess building on loongson 3A/3B would be a lot faster, but getting boards from lemote, though possible, not affordable. But just in case, I'd guess by changing "-march" from loongson2f to loongson3a, that would be it (the patches for 2F would als work for 3A)... If not, then just in case, can the same references be provided for loongson 3A/3B? Thanks, -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [loongson-dev] LSF/CLSF for loongson 2f (mipsel with -n 64 abi).
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > LFS, I guess is more known, yeah :) :-) > > I consider it to be sort of like Gentoo as an end result, but just with > unnecessary self-inflicted huge pain to choose over Gentoo which leads > to 20x more time needed to get anywhere. > ... > And that's the most sensible thing to use on a loongson2f. > n64 would only be for academic use or something imho. But at that point > researching NUBI or something might be more interesting, if that's even > a thing anymore. > > n32 IS 64bit, just with 32bit pointers, which on e.g a yeeloong is all > you need as you can address 4GB of virtual memory, and that's more than > you have there, pretty much. Also the limitation of 4GB would be for > one process, you can still have loads of memory, and you can still use > it all, just not map more than 4GB in a given single process. > If you have limited memory, it is better to have 32bit pointers because > it saves process memory and leads to less memory usage. > n32 is like x32 when compared to the PC world, not x86, except unlike > x32, it's actually rather well supported. o32 is what is 32bit and a > waste for a 64bit mips, but n32 still gives you hardware "long long" > type, etc. Yeap, I'm aware of the ABI differences. I want to go the painful way. Actually for a "n32" ABI I'd guess debian unstable for mipsel, though not loongson specif, would be the easiest path (the n32 port). Also, there used to be a mipsel "n32" parabola release (probably loongson specif) that was discontinued. One can get the initial setup with LFS for n64, and then move to gentoo or SMGL just changing the flag for the ABI as well, to keep on easier zone after the initial pain, :-) > > That's why I have not personally looked at n64 Gentoo on my yeeloong. > It would simply be worse in every aspect I care, given the RAM it has. > > For yeeloong, there's a project > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Lemote_Yeeloong_Gentoo_Desktop > that provides a loongson2f starting image, albeit currently at a 2014 > June state, but it can be upgraded from there, which is definitely > faster than doing some LFS. > > That said, you can certainly have n64 too, might just need a bit more > work for an initial setup. There are old n64 stage3's available to > start from, hopefully the CPU bugs for which workarounds are necessary > on loongson2f aren't hit in the base system too hard to cause issues, > but I suspect they might, so might need some messing around, but I > doubt anything as extreme as LFS. But I strongly advise n32 unless you > need a process to use more than 4GB alone (not total, just one specific > process), if you even have 4GB (and don't consider huge swap a solution > there). I have 1GB RAM in my yeeloong, I certainly don't want to have > larger memory pointers taking memory by using n64 instead of n32. > >> Just wondering if the same flags, patches and so on, that apply for >> loongson 2F would also apply to 3A. That was all... >> > > I'd really hope the newer families don't need the CPU bug workaround > flags anymore... -Wa,-mfix-loongson2f-nop etc BTW, getting familiar with those workarounds is part of the things I wan to learn, :-) And the lesser the need for them, the better of course, :-) Thanks, -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [loongson-dev] LFS/CLFS for loongson 2f (mipsel with -n 64 abi).
On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 2:41 AM, 孙海勇 wrote: > I wrote two articles on the production of Loongson 2E/2F running on the > LFS system, you can refer to, but the two are written in chinese. > > Cross Compile: > http://zdbr.net.cn/download/Loongson64-2.0.htm > > Native Compile: > http://zdbr.net.cn/download/Loongson64-pure-1.0.html > > > have seen an article based on the above rewrite an English version, but I > do not know what the reason I can not access the text, the following is the > search to the address, you can try to visit. > http://christophe.jarry.ouvaton.org/gnu-linux/gllfsc/ > gllfsc-loongson2f-1.0.html > Thanks, -- Javier -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "loongson-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to loongson-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to loongson-dev@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/loongson-dev. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
