Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 It's hard to promote Ubuntu if you lose the convince that Ubuntu/Canonical is something good. Why do you make it so hard to believe for many of us that Ubuntu is still something good and worth to sacrifice our free time? First the Amazon ads and now this. That's not compatible with the spirit of FOSS. Many of our local Community already switched to other distribution like Debian & Fedora. Luckily they're still active in our community because we see our mission mainly in spreading the spirit of FOSS and aren't only Ubuntu Fanboys. How is the situation in your LoCo? Are there already people not showing up anymore at events because of the immoral behavior of Canonical? -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
Spamm is compatible with foss? Al 23/12/12 19:20, En/na Lucas Betschart ha escrit: http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 It's hard to promote Ubuntu if you lose the convince that Ubuntu/Canonical is something good. Why do you make it so hard to believe for many of us that Ubuntu is still something good and worth to sacrifice our free time? First the Amazon ads and now this. That's not compatible with the spirit of FOSS. Many of our local Community already switched to other distribution like Debian & Fedora. Luckily they're still active in our community because we see our mission mainly in spreading the spirit of FOSS and aren't only Ubuntu Fanboys. How is the situation in your LoCo? Are there already people not showing up anymore at events because of the immoral behavior of Canonical? -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
Canonical is already working with the developer of Super Meat Boy to resolve their issues, and has been for a while now. This is all a result of miscommunication, not malice or "immoral behavior". Please try to avoid spreading misinformation or accusations. We all want what is good for Ubuntu, our community, and independent application developers alike. Michael Hall mhall...@ubuntu.com On 12/23/2012 01:20 PM, Lucas Betschart wrote: > http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 > > It's hard to promote Ubuntu if you lose the convince that > Ubuntu/Canonical is something good. Why do you make it so hard > to believe for many of us that Ubuntu is still something good and worth > to sacrifice our free time? > > First the Amazon ads and now this. That's not compatible with the spirit > of FOSS. > > Many of our local Community already switched to other distribution like > Debian & Fedora. Luckily they're still active in our community because > we see our mission mainly in spreading the spirit of FOSS and aren't > only Ubuntu Fanboys. > > How is the situation in your LoCo? Are there already people not showing > up anymore at events because of the immoral behavior of Canonical? > > -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
Al 23/12/12 19:20, En/na Lucas Betschart ha escrit: > http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 > > It's hard to promote Ubuntu if you lose the convince that > Ubuntu/Canonical is something good. Why do you make it so hard > to believe for many of us that Ubuntu is still something good and worth > to sacrifice our free time? > > First the Amazon ads and now this. That's not compatible with the spirit > of FOSS. > > Many of our local Community already switched to other distribution like > Debian & Fedora. Luckily they're still active in our community because > we see our mission mainly in spreading the spirit of FOSS and aren't > only Ubuntu Fanboys. > > How is the situation in your LoCo? Are there already people not showing > up anymore at events because of the immoral behavior of Canonical? > > Hi Lucas, I would recommend to first listen to both parts before making a judgement. So far you have heard only one side of the story. Making assumptions from that will never bring you the full picture. As a Canonical employee (who hasn't been involved in this topic, though) I can tell you that the last thing we do is to act with malice. It may have well been a confusion (either from Canonical or from the developer), but when there is confusion we act to fix it. I've also found that assuming good faith is always the best approach. Spreading incomplete assumptions and calling fellow community members fanboys does not contribute to solving anything, and it's not beneficial to either Ubuntu, Canonical or the developer. I'd suggest waiting from an authoritative reply from Canonical before making any judgement. Thanks. Cheers, David. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
To me that's *always* been part of the problem. Why isn't there a statement about what happened and how it's being fixed? There is no ”both parts" here. I know several Canonical employees, and they're all good people, so when Michael says it's being worked on, I trust that implicitly. But in the real world, people only know what they hear, and they routinely hear nothing from Canonical until the damage is done. On Dec 23, 2012 3:02 PM, "David Planella" wrote: > Al 23/12/12 19:20, En/na Lucas Betschart ha escrit: > > http://www.formspring.me/EdmundM/q/406945771976419136 > > > > It's hard to promote Ubuntu if you lose the convince that > > Ubuntu/Canonical is something good. Why do you make it so hard > > to believe for many of us that Ubuntu is still something good and worth > > to sacrifice our free time? > > > > First the Amazon ads and now this. That's not compatible with the spirit > > of FOSS. > > > > Many of our local Community already switched to other distribution like > > Debian & Fedora. Luckily they're still active in our community because > > we see our mission mainly in spreading the spirit of FOSS and aren't > > only Ubuntu Fanboys. > > > > How is the situation in your LoCo? Are there already people not showing > > up anymore at events because of the immoral behavior of Canonical? > > > > > > Hi Lucas, > > I would recommend to first listen to both parts before making a > judgement. So far you have heard only one side of the story. Making > assumptions from that will never bring you the full picture. > > As a Canonical employee (who hasn't been involved in this topic, though) > I can tell you that the last thing we do is to act with malice. It may > have well been a confusion (either from Canonical or from the > developer), but when there is confusion we act to fix it. I've also > found that assuming good faith is always the best approach. > > Spreading incomplete assumptions and calling fellow community members > fanboys does not contribute to solving anything, and it's not beneficial > to either Ubuntu, Canonical or the developer. > > I'd suggest waiting from an authoritative reply from Canonical before > making any judgement. > > Thanks. > > Cheers, > David. > > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts > > -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Canonical cheating Super Meat Boy makers
On Sun, 2012-12-23 at 19:20 +0100, Lucas Betschart wrote: > That's not compatible with the spirit of FOSS. The proliferation of commercial products in the Ubuntu market has been a good thing; the general promotion of proprietary software and encouraging the funding of proprietary software over the funding of Free Software has been a bad thing for FOSS. Super meat boy is not Free Software, I welcome it's availability. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that rejecting it is not in the spirit of FOSS when the software itself is against the spirit of FOSS. Canonical have business relationships we are completely beholden to the respect they garner. We have to trust that they'll sort things out as best they can. Martin, -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
