umount and data is lost?

[Diego]

Hi list, 

I am trying to debug this problem in a system I am developing: 

at some point I need to write a number to a file, and then reboot via an 
external device the machine. That device will cut of the power for a moment, 
and the machine will power on again (this is to overcome a fault we could not 
overcome otherwise). Before the reboot, I "umount" the proper partition and 
then "sync".

For some reason, on one machine we see that the data is not updated and the 
original data is kept in the file. I konw empirically that if I add a 
"sleep(5)" after the umount, and before the "reboot" the data is written to 
the disk.

Any tips how to debug this?
 * the system is a TI 2.6.32 kernel (OMAP)
 * the data is saved using fopen() 
 * disk is umounted using system("umount /data"), and then I call from C to 
sync();
  * Cannot print debug this easily since the reboot is automated at the start 
of the APP, and then busybox's "login" breaks my serial terminal (like this 
eats "\n", git fixes if I press enter)
 * The application is also multi-threaded to add more difficulty ...
 * FS is JFFS2
 * again  the workaround is a "sleep(5)"

Any ideas?


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Re: umount and data is lost?

[Diego]

On Saturday, November 05, 2011 11:22:04 PM shimi wrote:
> > man 2 sync says:
> BUGS
>According  to  the standard specification (e.g., POSIX.1-2001),
> sync() schedules the writes,
>but may return before the actual writing is done.  However, since
> version 1.3.20 Linux  does
>actually  wait.   (This  still  does  not  guarantee data integrity:
> modern disks have large
>caches.)
> 
> maybe that's your culprit?


I may have reading problems but... I understand:

 *  According  to  the standard specification (e.g., POSIX.1-2001), sync() 
schedules the writes,but may return before the actual writing is done.  
===
According to posix, "sync" means you ask to sync. It does not wait to the 
acutal data to be written to the disk.


*  However, since version 1.3.20 Linux  does actually  wait. 
=
Hoever on linux it does. 


* (This  still  does  not  guarantee data integrity: modern disks have large
   
caches.)
==
Using nand, cache is meaninless here, writing time is ... millisecs?

And, again - I issued a umount, please remember that. (Amos - thanks, code 
will be fixed to use directly the system call).


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Re: Mozilla Printing

[Diego]

maybe mozilla is not compiled with cups support in fedora/debian?

> When I run, mozilla 1.4.0 or 1.4.1 on Fedora-core1 or
> Knoppix 3.3 with added Debian applications partitions,
> all I can see in the mozilla printer selection window, is:
> "PostScript/default" ,
> and the printers output only English.

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Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi Dotan,

I have seen you bug sprint this week, don't worry :)

However, bug 165406 talks about input controls,which in Qt4 do not have  
automatic direction detection. IMHO, this is a non important bug compared  
to 163459


http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163459

This one renderes Plasma completelly useless for RTL users, and prevents  
the proper translation of the GUI: it means that Plasma will *always* be  
LTR, since the graphics scene layout system does not know about the widget  
direction and ignores that property completelly.


The last bug will hopefuly fixed by Trolltech in Qt45 which means (I am  
currently looking if this issue has been sent to the trolls at all).


One more note:
Voting in this case is completelly usesless. The LTR developers (hm)  
are afraid of touching this, and with good reasonss. There are very few  
people which understand this area, and none of them are coding right now.  
Even if you have giziliion-gazillio votes - no one will fix this issue. I  
will try to find time in a month or two, but I cannot promise anything,  
and specially nothing for KDE 4.0, maybe (with a lot of luck for KDE 4.1.2  
or 4.1.1), but most possible for 4.2.0.


My suggestion?
Nag the distributions. They have resources (=developers) which can be  
spent in this subject, they can really make a difference. So far, none of  
the distros are paying for a developer in the RTL/BiDI field - and this is  
why KDE4 and (somettimes...) gnome are licking balls in this area.



On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:06:17 +0300, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406

Thanks.

Dotan Cohen

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


BTW, WTF is this garbage? Is this opera writing shit, or badly sent email?  
I don't see it in KMail



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Re: [kde-il] Fedora 10 will have localized installer for Hebrew

[Diego Iastrubni]

(please note, I am cross posting)


KDE 4.1 has no official Hebrew translation in KDE 4.0 and KDE 4.1, since 
it did not qualify: it did not have enough percentage to be an official 
translation. See here:


http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/stable-kde4/essential/


Basically, an official language needs to have:desktop_kdelibs.po >=75%, 
desktop_l10n.po >= 75%, kdebase >= 75% and kdelibs4.po >= 90%. The 
reason for that, is that no one was working on translating KDE 4.x. 
Pretty simple.



If you look here: http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/essential/ 
you will see that KDE 4.2 to be released in January will probably meet 
those numbers. KDE4.2 is also fixed (been fixed!) in various places to 
properly support Hebrew as good it did in KDE3, but the work is being 
done in trunk (4.2) and not branch. As I said to the Ubuntu guys, if you 
really want I can backport the translations from 4.2 to 4.1, but I 
cannot guarantee that the product will have a decent quality, as it's 
not been tested for RTL compliance.



Dotan Cohen wrote:


2008/10/14 Oron Peled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

Hi everybody,

As of today we have crossed the required bar (90% translation) for
having Hebrew as an official language *during install*.

As the title says, F10 (which is in Beta now) will have
Hebrew as one of the installation languages.

More details in:
http://life-with-linux.blogspot.com/2008/10/hebrew-installation-of-fedora-10.html

Happy Suckot ;-)




If that is so, then how is it that Hebrew is not an official language of KDE:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/+bug/280724

Can someone knowledgeable comment on that bug?

  




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Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox

[Diego Iastrubni]

I can still remember Leumi doing this with a floppy "way then". At least 
a USB device would last for several months/years.
Floppies lick balls (the 1.44, not the 1.2, they actually kickes ass and 
were better, don't know why).


Oron Peled wrote:

On Sunday, 18 בJanuary 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote:
  

Some time ago they issued padkey USB device that one must use to get access
to the site. If I understand correcly, the IE uses ActiveX to retrieve an
key from the device and transfers the key and keyboard-entered password to
the site for authenitcation.



I'll bet they do it for "security". Indeed, forcing people to use ActiveX is
a secure way to have these people PC quickly broken into.

How lame can they be...

  



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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
> HI,
>
> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista
> Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.

Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK?

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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Diego Iastrubni]

I see on the header something very similar:

List-Id: The linux Israeli users list 
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,


SWEET

On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote:
> Hello Eli
>
>
> Can you add the flag:
> X-list: linux-il
>
>
> It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc
>
>
>
>  Rami
>
>
>
>  Ely Levy wrote:
>
> Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
>
>  Ely Levy
>  System group
>  Computer Science
>  Hebrew University
>  Jerusalem Israel
>
>
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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

[Diego Iastrubni]

automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in 
KDE4.

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
> Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
>
> אבגד
> הוז
>
> Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).
>
> Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
>
> Any ideas ?
>
> TIA.



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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi Dan,

WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the 
*direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget?

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10.
> > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows:
> >
> > אבגד
> > הוז
> >
> > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message).
>
> No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may
>
> # yum install bidiv
>
> and
>
> $ bidiv yourtext | less
>
> > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin.
> >
> > Any ideas ?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
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Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10

[Diego Iastrubni]

With all due respect to dan (and I really do!), what he sais was BS, and 
nothing to do with your problem. Now his answer is tagged and in the future a 
nn00b will read it and boom! he is doing stupid things.

Execute "qtconfig" (in a shell window, or the 
plasma-krunner-control-f2-thingie).

Move to the "Interface" tab, choose "Enhanced support for languages written 
right-to-left" and restart the X server (alt+control+backspace).

Now in kmail you can choose the display direction (only display!) by pressing 
control+shift like on windows.


On Tuesday 24 March 2009 19:42:35 Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the
> > *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget?
>
> That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail
> problem.
>

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Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help

[Diego Iastrubni]

I smell SVG... ;-)

http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics

All you need is a text editor, a browser (1) and time to learn.

(1) IE6 does not count as a browser

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 22:42:27 Dan Shimshoni wrote:
> Hello,
>   Please help me to stay with Linux and not
> go back to Windows...
> I had stopped using windows about two years ago;
> though I have a dual boot , I almost did not
> boot into windows in the recent two years.
> I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything
> that I had in Windows I could get in Linux.
> But:
> now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried
> with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and
> converted it to png. The result is reasonable.
> However,...
> I need to draw some arrows in an angle and
> I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that
> the text should not be
> vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45).
> And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia.
>
> Does any one know a tool with which it can be done?
>
> To be more specific, what I need to do as something
> like what is depicted here (and can be done with
> visio):
> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21
>
> please look at figure 3.44
>
> I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and
> not under some virtual machine
> emulating windows and not under wine.
>
> Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux.
>
> I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be
> in *.png.
>
> Rgs,
> DanS
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Re: Backup encryption key

[Diego Iastrubni]

As someone who tried to convince his boss to use Shachar's product, I can tell 
you that there are companies (in israel!) who sell a competing product, which 
is closed source, but:

 * works with a nice Java Based web interface,
 * it has a CLI version (works on 64 bit as well)
 * it's incremental backup
 * their service sends you email when you finish the backup
 * the email tells you what amont of data (in MB) has been sent
 * if you miss a backup a few days, you get a call from them "is everthing 
ok"? - don't trust automated setups!
 * they store up to a week of information as history
 * the traffic is encrypted using blowfish
 * if your initial backup is "huge" they can send someone to your office which 
comes with a USB disk and copies it manually the first time.

Besides it being closed source, written in java and (*) it's a damn good 
service. I can recommend off list if you want. Still, if I had the choise, I 
would use Shachar's service, not only because of (*). I prefear my money to 
go to someone from the community. 

Shame it's not my money, right Shachar? ;-)

(*) has far as I can tell, the encryption key is the password used for the 
service. I also know that a support guy can see the encrypted password of 
each customer. I hope I am drunk+stupid+lazy+mistaking, since if I am right, 
this is completelly fucked up. 

On Thursday 23 April 2009 16:00:27 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Yuval Hager wrote:
> > Well, I was looking for a more streamlined solution. Something that is:
> > 1) automatic
> > 2) offsite (e.g. online)
> > 3) bandwidth and space efficient (due to (2) above)
> > 4) (opt.) encrypted
> > 5) incremental
>
> http://rsyncrypto.lingnu.com + rsync
>
> Provides 1-5.
>
> Shachar

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Re: Backup encryption key

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Friday 24 April 2009 09:34:40 you wrote:
> P.s.
> Blowfish? In this day and age?

Twofish, I stand corrected. Their specks are very confusing:

 * They claim that the transport is based on https
 * They claim that the encryption key is stored on my computer, but i see no 
documentation on the location.
 * I don't know how the encryption key is made, my guess is that the input is 
the password used, I might be wrong.
 * I know that that the tech support can see the encrypted password of each 
user (john to the rescue!), and can see the list of files. I am not sure 
about the content. 

I guess that they are not as transparent as Lingnu, and their technology is 
great, but the docs sux. I brought Lingu's service to the debate, since it 
offers much more then just a secured layer. I assume that readers of this 
thread are more interested about the service provided by some companies, and 
not just the technical details.


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Re: OT: c++ q

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Sunday 26 April 2009 15:38:53 Erez D wrote:
> files:
> == a.h ===
MISSING: 
#ifndef __FILE_H__
> class a {
> int m_a;
>  a (int val);
>  void do_somthing()
> }
MISSING: semicolon, last line should be
};

MISSING: 
#endif // __FILE_H__

> == a.cpp ===
> #include "a.h"
> a::do_somthing {a.m_a++;};
> a::a(int val):m_a(val) {};
> 

GRADE: C- ~ 70.
Go back to school, and as punishment re-implement quick_sort in VB.NET.

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Re: OT: c++ q

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Sunday 26 April 2009 17:31:59 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Go back to school, and as punishment re-implement quick_sort in VB.NET.
>
> Now that's going the "cruel and unusual" route.
>
> I do think every programmer should take the time to implement binary
> search and quick sort at least once from scratch. The number of corner
> cases there is outstanding, and it is a great practice of thinking of
> the fine details.

Beeing a little serious:
I am not sure quick_sort is a must, as quite frankly it's a reall mess and I 
don't understand it. But heap sort and binary sort, yes. Those are a must.

/me will need to back to the books and remember how heap sort works

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Re: usb packet analyzer on windows

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi,

Some RTFM  for you:
http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/web/usb-sniffing-on-windows

On Tuesday 12 May 2009 10:37:46 Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can you please software USB packet analyzer on Windows .
> I have a device that works on Windows. I  going to develop  driver on Linux
> for the device.
>
> Thanks.



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Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox

[Diego Iastrubni]

Macromedia sux?

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 19:11:44 Noam Rathaus wrote:
> Maybe the flash works, but why the Hebrew is shown in reverse?

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Re: Israeli sites that are broken under firefox

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 20:45:00 Tomer Cohen wrote:
> (Diego - Adobe bought Macromedia long time ago)

Them too. Ok. 

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"binks" when using newer kerels

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

I am using Mandriva 2008.1 (yes, the old one) and decided to upgrade my 
kernel. I tested 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 (git, from Linus branch) nad under both I 
get random "blinks" in the screen. It's like the screen gets shut down for 
100-200 msec, and then continues on working. 

The machine is a Lenovo 3000 N100, with an Intel 945 video card.

Before I start hunting for this bug... as anyone seen it, something similar... 
or has an idea?

- diego

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Re: "binks" when using newer kernels

[Diego Iastrubni]

Now it's even funier... X really locked up. All the display was just shut 
down... even good old terminals were gone.

If I understand correcttly I need also to upgrade Xorg... will it work with 
the old "official" kernel?  or are xorg+linux bundeled together? 

I just heard that EXT4 is stable in 2.6.30... but no distro still uses that 
kernel by default. As Xorg 1.6 should come "soon", all I can think of is "all 
distros are messed up right now, wait". No upgrade for me it seems.

PS:
Yes, your machine has 915G. Still having all those passwords which prevent you 
from working after you go doing #1?

;-)


On Friday 29 May 2009 22:24:04 Oron Peled wrote:
> On 29.05.2009 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > I am using Mandriva 2008.1 (yes, the old one) and decided to upgrade my
> > kernel. I tested 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 (git, from Linus branch) nad under
> > both I get random "blinks" in the screen. It's like the screen gets shut
> > down for 100-200 msec, and then continues on working.
> >
> > The machine is a Lenovo 3000 N100, with an Intel 945 video card.
>
> I'm almost sure it's because of the latest changes in Intel drivers
> related to KMS (kernel-mode-setting).
>
> Few months ago the situation was much worse (for me), with random freezes
> on KDE (switched temporarily to GNOME). Now I get similar "flickers" only
> briefly during login (probably because of resolution changes etc.)
>
> You should use these drivers with up to date Xorg+drivers, otherwise your
> chances are slim.
>
> Fedora 10, HP DV-4000, with Intel-915GM (I think, it's not in front
> of me now).
>
> Cheer up, it should be OK soon (X.org-1.6 should be around the corner).



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Re: "binks" when using newer kernels

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Saturday 30 May 2009 13:35:55 you wrote:
> On 30.05.2009 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > I just heard that EXT4 is stable in 2.6.30... but no distro still uses
> > that kernel by default.
>
> My SOHO server uses an ext4 /home partition in the last 5 months (since
> Fedora-10 bundled it) without a hitch.
>
> Also, ext4 is the default partition type for Fedora-11 due in
> about a fortnight -- 9/6/2009, another week delay :-(
http://www.tllts.org/dl.php?episode=300&submit=Submit

I recommend you to listen to this podcast, in which The Linux Link Tech show 
intervue Ted T'so. He explains the problems in EXT4 and how distros are 
backporting features to earlier kernels. There are still a few bugs to be 
found.

They also have a great intro, in which they play all the fun they had with 
RMS, that's always funny :)

> > As Xorg 1.6 should come "soon", all I can think of is
> > "all distros are messed up right now, wait".
>
> The only "turbolent" area lately was really X (because of the changes
> required for KMS). It was harder for KDE users (me included) because
> KDE (especially Plasma) uses a lot of high end features of the drivers.
mmm... I have been thinking about it... I am not using KMS! But still, I have 
it compiled "built-in". Maybe it's time to remove it and test again.

> Waiting for stabilization isn't a bad idea, but the main problems are
> over. At least from my POV (as a Fedora user), a fully updated F10
> works reasonably well on all my computers (home + work) and F11
> would be an improvement (X.org-1.6, KDE-4.3, etc.)
Oron, I kindly disagree with you. The problems are now starting: only now the 
code is going to be used widly, only now the developers can see how it works 
on non-developers machines. This is time for me to wait for the internet to 
test the code before I use it :)

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Re: kopete and hebrew

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Sunday 09 August 2009 08:33:46 Omer Zak wrote:
> > i found that in my case is selected iso 8859-1 western and i see that
> > there are 2 hebrew encodings iso-8859-8 hebrew visually ordered and
> > iso-8859-8-1 hebrew logically ordered. which one should I choose?
>
> Neither.  Choose utf-8 and ensure that the other side chose utf-8 as
> well.
> If you MUST choose one of the two Hebrew encodings, choose iso-8859-8i
> (logically ordered).

Choose cp-1255, as it has a larger range of Hebrew support, if it's possible.

Now, I have talked with the Kopete developers a few years ago and they 
explained to me why ICQ gives us so much troubles. It seems that when a 
message is sent in ICQ one of it's headers describes the encoding the in which 
this message is encoded. Ok, so far so good.

However, most of the messages/clients (not sure about it) are sent in encoding 
number 3, which means "use your locale". So, Alice has LC_CTYPE=he_IL.cp-1255 
and sends a hebrew message to Bob (which used LC_CTYPE=C) and if the message 
is in encoding "3", this means the encoding is LC_CTYPE. Pretty much fucked 
up, IMHO. Nice to have a menu which overrides it.

Well... more or less, as in windows you don't really have LC_CTYPE... and I am 
not sure if the borked encoding number is "3"... but you get the idea.

Please use unicode when developing new applications/protocols. Transfer the 
text sing UTF-8. Or die, slowly and use putty on Windows95 to read your email 
from your Linux box by deciphering the packets read by tcpdump. 

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Re: [OT] Power over radio is it a true thing or just a myth ?

[Diego Iastrubni]

What the fuck are you doing? I did not see that movie yet...

Please write "spoiler" and leave a few empty the next time.

On יום שישי 28 אוגוסט 2009 13:17:06 Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> Interesting enough, Light travels through Israeli movies in speed close
> to American ones (88 mph) but,  complain much more then the American
> counterpart when it doing so. Strangely, a love affair between an
> homosexual Palestinian Sumu wrestler who is in fact a Mossad agent
> living in Lod is also involved.

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Re: Feedback on Acer laptop w. Linux

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום ראשון 30 אוגוסט 2009 11:36:03 Oron Peled wrote:
> I normally follow your original method -- put some effort *before* buying
> to have an idea about good/problematic hardware. I also make sure
> that the people who sell stuff will know *why* I chose their hardware
> (because its vendor is cooperating with the Linux community and as
> a result the hardware just work out of the box).

While I do tend to agree with what you say... who are those "people"? Is it 
the poor salesman who gets payed 22nis/h for seeling on office depot? or the 
supplier/vendor?

If you are molesting a poor kid, please see this: http://xkcd.com/225/

If you are actually talking about the vendors, how are you exactly contanting 
them? I am sure they would like to hear happy customers. 

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Re: Setting LANG env on Ubuntu

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Friday 25 September 2009 00:15:40 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I don't know about Ubuntu, but in Debian these variables are set either
> in /etc/default/locale or /etc/environment. Also, the "official" way of
> changing those is by doing "dpkg-reconfigure locales" as root.

On Debian/Ubuntu, "dpkg-reconfigure locales"  is a light wrapper around 
localgegen (I think, I am currently on Fedora...). On Mandriva, you can 
install each one of those locales by an rpm instead of generating them on your 
machine. If you want to change the locale of your system, this is a mandatory 
step.

However it does not change the locale. What I usually do (works on 
Debian/Ubuntu/Mandriva/Fedora) is:

locale > ~/.i18n

and then edit ~/.i18n as needed. Here it is on my machine:
[elc...@pinky ~] cat /home/elcuco/.i18n
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="he_IL.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="he_IL.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

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Re: cms.uniqsys.co.il (reported site attack)

[Diego Iastrubni]

BTW,

How do I disable that stupid red window on FF? *I* don't have problems with 
those kind of sites. This "warning" is preventing *me* from looking into the 
site and learning what/who/how things are done.


On Sunday 27 September 2009 07:41:43 Noam Rathaus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Does someone know someone from there?
> 
> The site is infected with a malware:
> < iframe src=http://delzzerro.cn/ height=1 width=1 >
> 
> And was reported by Google as being hostile.

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Re: Current recommendations for Linux-compatible printer?

[Diego Iastrubni]

I have an HP printer/fax/scanner here. Nice piece of HW. I connected it to the 
wireless network, and under Windows it's a charm.

Under linux, I can print to it from the network. They have this nice web 
interface from which you you can scan, I did not manage to get the scanner 
working directly with the OS. I am not able to "print to fax" from linux. 

Under Windows you have this option to stick a sdcard to the machine, and it 
will send it to your computer. Again, don't know how it works under linux.

So... yes, the very basic things work under HP. However, this machine can do 
SO MUCH MORE, and using it under linux seems like a waste for me. 


On Wednesday 21 October 2009 22:18:37 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Omer,Most (if not all) of HP's All in One printers should suffice you.
> 
> * Drivers are fully open source (see: http://hplipopensource.com)
> * Print, Fax, Scan are fully supported.
> * Very easy installation
> * The market is flooded with NON HP replacement cartridges.
> * The printers are actually quite cheap: the top of the line (8500 Pro AIO)
> costs 900 NIS
> 
> Thanks,
> Hetz
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Omer Zak  wrote:
> > I got fed up with the ink-guzzling behavior of my Epson Stylus CX3200
> > and would like to buy a new printer.  And of course, it needs to be
> > fully supported by Linux.
> >
> > Which manufacturers are OK today (for example, is Lexmark X2620,
> > currently offered in a sale by Bezeq, OK)?
> > Which printer/s available today would be the best buy?
> >
> > My criteria are:
> > 1. My printing needs are very low volume.  So the printer needs not to
> > be very fast.
> > 2. When and if I do print colorful stuff, I need it to be of high
> > quality.
> > 3. 100% Linux compatible (due to ideology, this should include also
> > features which I don't plan to use).
> > 4. Color.
> > 5. If applicable, economical in ink usage (for example, separate
> > cartridge for each color; and refillable by 3rd parties i.e. not
> > burdened by a chip).
> > 6. Includes also scanner.  FAX is optional.
> > 7. Does not have to be the lowest cost model.
> >
> >   Thanks,
> >--- Omer
> > --
> > Never let beliefs, God or Gods incite war and hatred among human beings.
> > My own blog is at http://www.zak.co.il/tddpirate/
> >
> > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
> > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which
> > I may be affiliated in any way.
> > WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
> >
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Re: Current recommendations for Linux-compatible printer?

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi Oron,

See comments inline:

On Friday 23 October 2009 13:49:08 you wrote:
> On Friday, 23 בOctober 2009 13:09:31 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
(I should fix kmail's translation...)

> the wireless model due to security:
Whats wrong about WPA2+do not broadcast the SSID?

> Model?
> 
> My HP Officejet 6313 is connected to the network (I didn't want
J6413

>  * Scanning - same (xsane, gimp plugins, etc.)
doc? man? rtfm? [google,yahoo,bing,hotbot)-search keyword?


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Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote:
> > I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from
> > the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network,
> > etc. to work without a "policy kit" developed by GUI people (I
> > understand it comes from Gnome).

...

> However, you are correct that it's easy to see its GNOME origins. There
> is no command line client. This is not because the design is bad
> or architectural limitations --- nobody bothered writing one yet.

You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was "pretty good". I don't 
know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd.



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Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Saturday 31 October 2009 23:42:49 Oron Peled wrote:
> > You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was "pretty good". I
> > don't know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and
> > installing wicd
> 
> What does it have to do with the subject?
> 
> We discussed PolicyKit, integration with NetworkManager, lack of good
> command line integration and how bad is running big program stacks
> (GUI) as suid programs:
>   1. wicd is a GUI program (it uses GTK).

wicd is a network manager replacement. It works (more or less) the same way NM 
works: with a deaomon which does the lower level operations, and several GUIs 
(a GTK version, and a ncurses version).

I don't want to change the subject, as I"m afraid to steer the debate from the 
original problem (as you mentioned). I am just pointing that for the NM 
problem, there is another solution which tries to solve more or less the same 
problem. It's just "different". 

You know, GTK vs. Qt argument.

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Re: Hebrew in urxvt

[Diego Iastrubni]

whats wrong with piping text trough fribidi ?
what do you do when you need to edit text? the text cursor gets crazy under 
all those tests.

On Wednesday 04 November 2009 17:51:05 Yuval Hager wrote:
> I've recently switched from Konsole to urxvt. Konsole has great bidi
> support, which allows one to switch from logical to visual text
> representation at the click of a button.
> 
> I was missing bidi support in urxvt (and virtually every other terminal I
> tried. I was told to try mlterm, but I never got to it, as it does not look
> so exciting.
> 
> I just found a way to view Hebrew characters correctly in urxvt, and wanted
> to share.
> urxvt supports perl extensions, so here's what you need to do:
> 0) you do have the culmus fonts installed, don't you?
> 1) install Text::Bidi. run 'cpan' and then 'install Text::Bidi'.
> 2) install the perl bidi extension by Moshe Kamensky from
> http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/2006q3/000321.html. It
> appears at the end of his email, copy that to a file and place it
> under '/usr/lib/urxvt/perl'. Name it 'bidi'.
> 3) run urxvt as folllows:
> $ urxvt -fn 'xft:terminus-12,xft:comix no2 clm' -pe bidi
> 
> this works beautifully, without even the need to click needed in Konsole. I
> am not editing files in Hebrew, just need to see an occasional Hebrew file
> name, or Hebrew logs.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --yuval
> 

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Re: ot: looking for cheap/free sip phones

[Diego Iastrubni]

...and if you craft your dialplan correctly in asterisk, you can use the 
internal phone's contact list (dialing 9 for outbound dialing is lame).

Highly recommended.

On Friday 08 January 2010 10:38:03 Ohad Levy wrote:
> If you have a Nokia E or N series, you can use that instead.
> 
> Ohad
> 
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, geoffrey mendelson <
> 
> geoffreymendel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm playing around with asterisk and am looking for some cheap or free
> > SIP phones. They don't have to be new, work well, etc, just be able to
> > connect to an ethernet network and work with asterisk.
> >
> > Jerusalem area and free prefered, but I can pay a small amount for them.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Geoff.
> > --
> > geoffrey mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
> > Jerusalem Israel geoffreymendel...@gmail.com
> > New word I coined 12/13/09, "Sub-Wikipedia" adj, describing knowledge or
> > understanding, as in he has a sub-wikipedia understanding of the
> > situation. i.e possessing less facts or information than can be found in
> > the Wikipedia.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Hebrew search in PDFs is backwards?

[Diego Iastrubni]

This is really, really bad from qt/src/gui/painting/qpainter.cpp, inside
void QPainter::drawText(const QPointF &p, const QString &str, int tf, int 
justificationPadding)

I see this code:
QStackTextEngine engine(str, d->state->font);
engine.option.setTextDirection(d->state->layoutDirection);
engine.itemize();
QScriptLine line;
line.length = str.length();
engine.shapeLine(line);
int nItems = engine.layoutData->items.size();
QVarLengthArray visualOrder(nItems);
QVarLengthArray levels(nItems);
for (int i = 0; i < nItems; ++i)
levels[i] = engine.layoutData->items[i].analysis.bidiLevel;
QTextEngine::bidiReorder(nItems, levels.data(), visualOrder.data());

Now... it seems like QTextEngine::bidiReorder()  does exactly what you want 
logical->visual. However... this class is defined inside qtextengine_p.h... 
which means this is not official API.

But, IMHO, even if it's not marked, you can open a bug report on this at 
Nokia's bug tracker, and they will handle it for Qt 4.8, maybe 4.7. Meanwhile, 
if the header is installed - abuse it. If it's not included - hack it inside 
your application

(*) I know that this will not be accepted at KDE's svn ...


On Monday 18 January 2010 16:28:57 Gadi Cohen wrote:
> I'm now trying to implement this in Okular (instead of studying for my
> exam, bad!).  I've set up a KDE4 development environment, but have no
> prior experience with KDE or Qt at all.

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Re: Bituah Leumi site: call them!

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Thursday 15 April 2010 22:53:25 Stan Goodman wrote:
> > There is a phone number on that page. Call them next week! Let them
> > know that not the whole world uses Windows!
> 
> When I mentioned some years ago to the Bezeq business office that I do not
> have Windows on my machine (I had only OS2 then, which would not yet work
> with their ADSL), I was informed that I was talking nonsense, because
> every computer has Windows.
You silly hippie, you need to find Windows near the Control Panel. If you were 
not such an communist you would know this by now.

I just got reminded of a wonderful post  at The Daily WTF, very representative 
of your situation:

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Mr-Keyboard,-Mr-Internet,-and-Support-from-Mr-
James.aspx

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Re: Common problems with Ubuntu

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 12 מאי 2010 21:40:30 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Anyway, I believe that the problem in Debian would have been exhibited even
> if I wanted to install exim in addition to postfix, or sendmail in
> addition to postfix etc. because they all supplied a /usr/sbin/sendmail
> file which was not a symlink.

RTFM - "man update-alternatives". It has been explained in this thread. Please 
stop the FUD.

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Re: Remote debug within QT creator

[Diego Iastrubni]

Do you see this?

Debug -> Start debugging -> Start and attach to remote application


On יום ראשון 30 מאי 2010 09:00:30 itamar levit wrote:
> Hi
> Is it posible to do remote debuging from QT creator ? if yew how ?

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Re: gcc-4.5.0 Success Story with Freecell Solver

[Diego Iastrubni]

Shlomi:


svn co http://llvm.org/svn/llvm-project/llvm/trunk llvm
mkdir -p llvm/tools/clang
svn co http://llvm.org/svn/llvm-project/cfe/trunk llvm/tools/clang
mkdir llvm/cmake-build
cd llvm/cmake-build
ccmake ../
make
export CC=$PWD/bin/clang
export CXX=$PWD/bin/clang++


Now re-compile your library + test tools.

(PS, If you want to fully bootstrap clang instead of just using stage1 here, 
use this "ugly" shell script to get a "clang built with clang built clang",  
aka stage 3).

Please report how good/bad clang is for your case.



On יום שלישי 15 יוני 2010 14:27:22 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Monday 14 Jun 2010 12:20:03 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > On Monday 14 Jun 2010 02:30:24 Amos Shapira wrote:
> > > There was an item on slashdot about LLVM project, have you tested it?
> > 
> > LLVM is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Level_Virtual_Machine . I've
> > learned about it from many places, including fellow developers on IRC.
> > I've tested it with Freecell Solver back before 18-Apr-2009, according to
> > http://fc-solve.berlios.de/docs/distro/NEWS.html . Reading from the
> > NEWS.html file:
> > 
> > [quote]
> > Added Makefile.llvm to build LLVM bitcodes from the Freecell Solver
> > sources. So far, they seem significantly slower than the native code
> > compiled using gcc-4.3.2.
> > [/quote]
> > 
> > So that's it. I've used it with a binary distribution of gcc-for-LLVM
> > instead of clang (which wasn't very mature back then). It's possible it
> > has improved since then in this regard.
> > 
> > In one comment I've read somewhere, it was claimed that Apple tends to
> > hype LLVM, because that's what they support, but the fact is that gcc is
> > much more mature and has many more years of development behind it.
> 
> OK, found this comment now:
> 
> http://lwn.net/Articles/391557/
> 
> Reading from it:
> 
> [quote]
> Actually they [= Apple] just refuse to touch anything GPLv3-related. And
> they often oversell LLVM because they compare it with years-old GNU stuff.
> 
> This is really sad because LLVM is great - it's just not as great as Apple
> PR guys claim...
> [/quote]
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   Shlomi Fish


bootstrap-clang.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: gcc-4.5.0 Success Story with Freecell Solver

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 16 יוני 2010 08:33:55 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi Diego,
> > (PS, If you want to fully bootstrap clang instead of just using stage1
> > here, use this "ugly" shell script to get a "clang built with clang built
> > clang", aka stage 3).
> > 
> > Please report how good/bad clang is for your case.
> 
> Well, after I built clang (which took a while) I was able to compile
> Freecell Solver using it. The first thing I should note is that the
> compilation appeared to have been much slower than with gcc.

oops, you are using the debug build og clang. This is why it's so slow 
compiling :)

Look at the shell script attached to the last message, and use the cmake 
command there to configure clang:

cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE:STRING=Release ../

To make a good comparison, please to boostrap clang properly (you need at 
least stage2, in theory from that point all binaries should be identical). 
Building clang here does take about an hour or two, yes, builind a C++ 
compiler is a long compilation.


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Re: gcc-4.5.0 Success Story with Freecell Solver

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 16 יוני 2010 13:47:35 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > To make a good comparison, please to boostrap clang properly (you need at
> > least stage2, in theory from that point all binaries should be
> > identical). Building clang here does take about an hour or two, yes,
> > builind a C++ compiler is a long compilation.
> 
> Indeed.
 
> In any case, I don't suppose the benchmark results of fc-solve itself will
> be different, because the output of the compiler should be the same in
> both cases, right?

The difference between theory and practice is that in theory there is no 
difference between theory and practice. 

-> please test and continue every several days, as clang evolves in HUGE steps 
very fast. I can still remember a few weeks ago when the compiler self hoseted 
for me for the first time. 

Just for reference, how can I do those test myself? Where is your SVN (git?) 
for me to test new code?

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Re: hebrew letters in non-unicode vfat

[Diego Iastrubni]

Shachar,

On שבת 19 יוני 2010 00:08:26 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> There is no such thing "non-unicode vfat". FAT file systems comes in two
> flavors. One is the classic, pre-Windows 95, version, which only
> supported ASCII (no Hebrew at all). The other is the LFN extension to
> FAT, which is encoded in UTF-16 (i.e. - unicode). In other words, if the
> DoK has Hebrew names, they are in Unicode.
I am pretty sure I used to write in Hebrew filenames under DOS and Win3.11 (and 
saw "reversed Hebrew" in my app... I had to reverse it...). When I say "pretty 
sure", I  tell you I wrote code myself.

Can you prove me wrong? What is missing here ? (except me being senile, that 
might be true)

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Re: Changing UI to Hebrew in Thundirbird

[Diego Iastrubni]

elc...@pinky:~$ aptitude search thunderbird | grep Hebrew
p   thunderbird-locale-he   - Thunderbird Hebrew language/region 
package



On יום שישי 16 יולי 2010 12:02:34 Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running Ubuntu Lucid. I have installed Thunderbird from the repo, but
> can't find a way to switch the UI to Hebrew (Menus and such).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> .::.
> 
> Amichai Rotman
> 
> Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/]
> Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net]
> 
> ---
> -
> .::.

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Re: OT: heard about internetto?

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום חמישי 19 אוגוסט 2010 23:09:29 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
> I'm not sure it's really worth it. Last I checked, you could get a
> voice line from BEZEQ for 15 NIS a month, if you only used it for a
> small number of calls a month. For that price, I would rather keep a
> line from them and have a dumb phone on it to make calls when my VoIP
> line was down.

Having called Bezeq myself yesterday after reading Hetz's blog, this is what I 
understand from them:

* kav kal - 25mis per month. 0.25 agorot per minute of call
http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/PhoneLines/KavKal/Pages/kavkal.aspx

* kav muzal - 35mis per month. 0.15 agorot per minute:
http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/Phonelines/DiscountedLine/Pages/discountedline.aspx

On top of that you need to pay for the tashtit (look the small prints, 3 three 
months have different price), look also for NGN on that page:
81.90 nis - 2mbps
99.90 nis - 5mbps

http://www.bezeq.co.il/Internet/FastInternet/intsale/Pages/surfingpacks.aspx

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Re: cheap linux box ?

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שני 11 אוקטובר 2010 14:03:39 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Take a look at the Sheevaplug/GuruPlug.

I heard good things about Sheevaplug, and bad about GuruPlug (the Debian 
planet is infected with people doing HW hacks on that device since otherwise 
it just dies).

Lets join the discussion:
Any other recommendation for an ebmedded ARM device for me to play with?

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Looking for a smart card guru

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

The company I am working on is looking into incorporating some smart card 
readers into our device line (based on TI OMAP3).

We need someone to help us port the pcsc-lite stack to our device and then 
help writing the higher level code to read/write data from/to the smart card. 
Since the API is the same on Windows and Linux, he will need to work on 
VisualStudio as well :)

Contact me off list for more details.

- diego

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Re: Will Nokia destroy Qt4 like they destroyed Symbian OS?

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שני 08 נובמבר 2010 16:41:16 Omer Zak wrote:
> http://eu.techcrunch.com/2010/11/08/guest-post-symbian-os-one-of-the-most-s
> uccessful-failures-in-tech-history/ The 4th comment has a prediction that
> Nokia are not going to be healthy for Qt4.
> So if it does really happen, I suppose that there'll be a fork of Qt4,
> making Qt4 for KDE different from Qt4 for smartphones.

You completelly mis-read this: IMHO, what will happen is that KDElibs will get  
desintegrated into several Qt5 components, if my wet dreams will come true.

This means:
KDE will still be KDE. Qt will not get forked. This is day-dreaming, nothing 
has been decided yet.

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Re: [r...@gnu.org: Speeches in Israel?]

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום ראשון 16 ינואר 2011 15:15:22 Ehud Karni wrote:
> From: Richard Stallman 
> To: e...@gnu.org
> Subject: Speeches in Israel?
> Reply-to: r...@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:05:32 -0500
> 
> I think I will be in Israel in July.  Do you know of any
> place that would like a speech about free software?

As much as I disagree with RMS, it's not something I would like to miss 
(again). Meeting a legend while he is living is not something anyone should 
miss.

How about we move AP a few weeks ahead of schedule...?

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Re: Android phones

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 23 פברואר 2011 13:51:30 Ori Idan wrote:
> Headache during conversation is a known problem with cellular phones, the
> question is does it means that you will suffer long term effects
> like continuous headache or even worth, some kind of cancer.

This might be related to the low quality of the call. The cellular networks 
use these days a heavly compressed GSM codec to save bandwith. If you are on 
an area that has low cellular coverage the codec gets more aggressive.

Many people I talk to from my cellular at home (started cellcom, now 
pelephone) complain that the conversation is not productive and they request 
my landline. They the quality of the conneversation gets noticable better.

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Re: Android phones

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 23 פברואר 2011 19:46:56 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by "upstream". Most of the limitations of the
> forum solutions stem from the fact that no sources are available for the
> phones, so you are, essentially, hacking in BiDi support by modifying
> the binaries. Which upstream would you say is responsible, in such a case?
> 
> Also, bear in mind that while I think a better job can be done, not
> everything is fixable when you are doing binary only hacking.

Can  you explain how those "roms" are done? What does does it mean "binary 
patching"? Points to FMs are OK, search terms are OK as well.

Comming from the world of OSS and package managers I still strugle to 
understand the terminology used in the Android community for the things I do 
every day in my computers (and at work).

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Re: Android phones

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום חמישי 24 פברואר 2011 22:46:54 Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> On 24/02/11 08:42, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > Can  you explain how those "roms" are done? What does does it mean
> > "binary patching"? Points to FMs are OK, search terms are OK as well.
> 
> FMs?
Fabolous manuals of course.

> There is an open source version of Android. If you own a recent enough
> development phone, you can use the standard Android Open Source Project
> (AOSP) to compile a system image and flash it to your phone. It will
> download a few proprietary user-mode drivers from your phone, but will
> otherwise be completely open source. It will not, of course, contain any
> of Google's proprietary additions (no Market, Maps, Gmail etc.)
> Alternatively, there is a fork of Android called "CyanogenMod", which
> brings the latest version of Android to just about any Android phone
> (and some non-Android phones) in the market, provided you manage to root
> the phone so you can load it. Again, some of the drivers would be
> proprietary.
Wait. The market is not open source? No re-implementation? 

Does anyone know how does the GalaxyS stand from this poit of view? How much 
closed source propietary drivers does this phone need..?

(just for us to remember - http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/linux-
doomsday )
 
> If you are importing your own phone to Israel, you have two options. You
> can either install CyanogenMod on it, and lose all of your phone's
> unique attributes, or you can try to add proper BiDi support by patching
> the binary. 

The interresting question is how much the standard ROMs have hebrew support 
compared to the local ROMs we see in the field.

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Re: Android phones

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום חמישי 24 פברואר 2011 11:48:17 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:39:10AM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > This might be related to the low quality of the call. The cellular
> > networks use these days a heavly compressed GSM codec to save bandwith.
> > If you are on an area that has low cellular coverage the codec gets more
> > aggressive.
> 
> Nowadays it's mostly AMR, IIRC. Still compressed.
> 
> OTOH, is there any usage of a higher sample rate than
> telephony-standard?

Don't konw. I still hear cat vomit each time I speak on the phone. I assume 
the sample rate is still 8khz 16bit - for compatibility issues with older 
networks.

Compressing voice data at those rates will explain why most of our heads hurt 
when we speak on those devices.

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Re: flash killer extension for firefox 4

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שני 28 מרץ 2011 16:02:03 Udi Finkelstein wrote:
> I stand corrected.
> What I wrote below was for Windows Firefox.
> Under Linux you will find the same under
> "Edit/preferences/Advanced/Update".
> 
Unless you are using a version of Firefox which was packaged by your 
distribution, and in this case you still have no control over the version of 
Firefox you have - they decide for you.

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Re: Upgrading Android Under Linux

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 04 מאי 2011 18:32:59 Antony Gelberg wrote:
> http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/17020-all-models-cyanogenmod-7-for-samsu
> ng-galaxy-s-phones-experimental/
> 
And each time I read about it I keep reading about people complaining that the 
Wifi does not always work, and problems with the GPS. I still keep distance 
from it, hopefully not for much.

About the original question: as soon as you get a booloader that can load non 
signed images (v2, not e) you can install update.zip to anything you want. 
Look in http://iandroid.co.il for docs, or nag again for me to post direct 
links to the documentation.

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Re: Flashing Galaxy S devices under Linux (Was: Upgrading Android Under Linux)

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שלישי 07 יוני 2011 22:13:22 Gadi Cohen wrote:

> Right, I finally overcame my fears and successfully flashed my SGS II
> I9100 in Linux yesterday.

I just used the recovery console to install this ZIP:
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/cm_galaxysmtd_full-21.zip

I also formatted the sys partition from the recovery console (I had my phone 
rooted, ever since I installed the PilotX ROMs).

I am using Pelephone here for a day, and meanwhile I *do* konw that sending 
MMS does not work. Camera works quite good. No idea about GPS. Wifi works, but 
manytimes I need to refersh the pages... seems like this is not "perfect" yet.

Also:
Do not enable 2G. Keep in 3G as there is a bug in the kernel, see the FAQ.

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Re: Scheduling a Meeting in a Cafe or Restaurant

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום רביעי 02 נובמבר 2011 16:33:22 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:50:16 +0200
> 
> Stan Goodman  wrote:
> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 13:24:56 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > I'd like to meet with a few people (whoever is interested) for chat
> > 
> > Interested in what?
> 
> interested in meeting. So to repharse:
> 
> <<<
> I'd like with a few people (whoever is interested in such a meeting) for
> chat and food in a café or a restaurant 

‏You keep confusing between linux.org.il and jdate.co.il.

Shlomi - this is not a meetup ML at least not always, sometimes we do 
import a movie and rent a cinema... Anyway, keep on topic, ok? You know, 
techcnical shite related to linux and stuff, ya' know? ;-)

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Re: umount and data is lost?

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

First of all, thanks for all the responces. I am here, instead of the 
gazillion (usefull) answers just so I do not insult anyone...  (or everyone?). 
Some questions asked:

1) I did fclose() the file.
2) I tried sync() before the umount().
3) Instead of using system("umount...") I am using umount("...", MNT_FORCE). 
Return value is OK=0.
4) I did not test which sleep() is the minimal.
5) Micha, HTML mail on this is is badbad. A kitten died because of you, thank 
you (I am allergic to them)
6) hdparm... does it work on nand devices? I did mention this once or twise. 
Just to make things clear: this is not a PC, it's an ARM based device.

On יום ראשון 06 נובמבר 2011 19:04:48 Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 05, 2011, Diego wrote about "umount and data is lost?":
> > overcome otherwise). Before the reboot, I "umount" the proper partition
> > and then "sync".
> 
> I believe it is rather pointless to sync(1) after umount(1) as umount(1)
> already writes all the buffered data for that filesystem before it
> succeeds. You can see this behavior in action if you mount a slow USB
> flash drive, write a lot of data to it, and immediately umount - the
> umount often can take many seconds to finish, until all the data is
> actually written to the drive.

... and now the story gets even funnier:

I looked at the source again of my application, and it seems that the boot I 
was doing is not the "external power off" reboot I was thinking of, but the 
linux reboot(LINUX_REBOOT_CMD_RESTART) (man 2 reboot). This one was supposed 
to umount() my partitions, and flush all data, correct? It does not in my case. 

The problem on the system got fixed by calling the "external power off" reboot, 
since I called  sync() and umount() explicitly but how come 
reboot(0x1234567) did not flush the buffers properly? I admit that the 
partition 
is not in /etc/fstab, but mounted "manually" by some stupid initscript, but... 
I *am* confused.

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Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Monday, February 06, 2012 02:43:16 AM Oron Peled wrote:
> You can find an example of this (refering to ODS):
>   http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05

Really? WTF? Linking to a document from 3 years ago? So, the wold of 
propietary software stopped 3 years ago?

Did you check the status on modern office suits, or will you just link it 
forever, being ignorant and thinking what is the best for you and not reality?

(crap, every time I say something rationable and smart a kitty dies, please 
stop).

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Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום חמישי 16 פברואר 2012 12:19:18 you wrote:
> On Wednesday, 15 בFebruary 2012 21:47:02 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > On Monday, February 06, 2012 02:43:16 AM Oron Peled wrote:
> > > You can find an example of this (refering to ODS):
> > >   http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/05
> > 
> > Really? WTF? Linking to a document from 3 years ago? So, the wold of
> > propietary software stopped 3 years ago?
> 
> Nope. It just created more incompatible formats...
> (MS-Office-2010 format is different from MS-Office-2007)
From my experience there is no problem opening in office 2007 docx written in 
office 2010. 

> BTW, if you think they improved ODF support you are dead wrong.
> In the last years all ODF supporting programs were adapting
> to the (now approved) ODF-1.2 -- care to check where is MS-Office
> in this respect?
> 
> But we knew this would happen, didn't we?
I will try it myself, before I judge. But yes, very expected.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/try


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Re: Preparing to convince to shift to non-propriety documents formats

[Diego Iastrubni]

> From my experience there is no problem opening in office 2007 docx written
> in office 2010.
> 
> > BTW, if you think they improved ODF support you are dead wrong.
> > In the last years all ODF supporting programs were adapting
> > to the (now approved) ODF-1.2 -- care to check where is MS-Office
> > in this respect?
> > 
> > But we knew this would happen, didn't we?
> 
> I will try it myself, before I judge. But yes, very expected.
> 
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/try

I installed Windows 7, and Office from MS. I also installed the latest version 
of LibreOffice. 

In MsOffice I created a "test 1,2,3" document (in Hebrew, RTL), saved as ODT, 
and opened in LibreOffice. File loaded, directionality not working.

Created the same document in LibreOffice, saved and tried opening it in MSWord. 
This failed, as probably MSOfffice 2010 supports only ODF1.1 and LibreOffice 
supports only 1.1.

New test was downloading http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.1/OS/OpenDocument-
v1.1.odt and opening it. The document opened in MSWord 2010 and LibreOffice 
3.5. 
The document length in pages was different in both applications. I then saved 
the document and loaded the document in LibreOffice - now the document size in 
LibreOffice was different (3 different page count, yes).

My brief conclusion of this experiment is that MSOffice 2010 supports ODF 1.1 
as 
much as LibreOffice supports *.doc files.

If anyone wants to send me ODF files for testing, I can send him PDF files as 
respond, hoping that this will satisfy your curiosity.

One good thing that I can say about OSOffice, is that the loading and saving is 
done incrementally and faster then LibreOffice. LibreOffice felt like it was 
going 
to explode while "editing" the document, and MSOffice felt quite good. 

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Re: oVirt, FLOSS Weekly, Itamar Heim talks about oVirt

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום חמישי 15 מרץ 2012 22:38:11 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > What do you base that statement on exactly?
> 
> Listening to that episode and previous some 50 or so previous ones.

"This episode was brought to you by Ford" - marketing the Zune crap
"This episode was brought to you by Netflix" ...

You shuold pop up the volume when you listen to those podcasts. They are very 
commercial oriented. Leo is a perl guy, but uses a mac. The production is not 
... "based on free software".

But yes, it seems ovirt will be great some day, and now they are just pushing 
it, markting until it will get usable. See Hetz's review: 
http://benhamo.org/wp/?p=2958

On a side note: what other free-oss-linux-whatever podcasts do  you guys 
recommend? Mine are:
http://tllts.org/
http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linuxactionshow/ 
http://sixgun.org/linuxoutlaws/


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Re: what happens if

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שני 19 מרץ 2012 12:22:15 Erez D wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Nadav Har'El 
wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012, Erez D wrote about "Re: what happens if":
> > > my reason for fork is only for exec() - to protect the first program
> > > from the other.
> > 
> > Then you should be all fine.

Another reason is for interacting with libraries which are "singleton". I had 
to work with a library to talk to some special HW. The library was designed to 
work with one device per process, and I needed to support "many".

I found myself "forking" and using pipe() to use the API from my main app. The 
problem is that that "fork()" was called from a thread. Read ahead.

> > If you're talking about the C language, you won't have any of these
> > problems. System calls like close() or dup() do not use any pthread
> > capabilities like mutexes.
> > 
> > If you're talking about a different programming language, I frankly
> > have no idea what its fork() does. Maybe you need to write some C
> > code that does fork()/exec() in one function call, and avoid this risk.
> 
> i will be using C++. are you sure this is safe ?

All theory I read before implementing this said this was a bad idea. The 
theory says that libc may maintain some mutex inside malloc() which is called 
from printf() for example. This means that even trivial things may kill your 
app. The theory says that in multithreaded applications as soon as you clone() 
(the system called used by pthread_create()) you should execvp.

In my application (a lot of C++, running on linux 2.6.32, glibc 2.9 and glibc 
2.11.1 on ARM) erverything worked perfectly against the theory, your mileage 
may vary.

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Re: what happens if

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שלישי 20 מרץ 2012 10:45:19 Erez D wrote:
> > All theory I read before implementing this said this was a bad idea. The
> > theory says that libc may maintain some mutex inside malloc() which is
> > called
> > from printf() for example. This means that even trivial things may kill
> > your
> > app. The theory says that in multithreaded applications as soon as you
> > clone()
> > (the system called used by pthread_create()) you should execvp.
> > 
> > In my application (a lot of C++, running on linux 2.6.32, glibc 2.9 and
> > glibc
> > 2.11.1 on ARM) erverything worked perfectly against the theory, your
> > mileage
> > may vary.
> 
> what do you mean by " erverything worked perfectly against the theory" -
> did it work or did you have problems although you just execvp after clone ?
Sorry, to be clear:

I cloned(), then forked(), but no exec*() was called in the new child process. 

Everything worked fine in my setup. But again, YMMV.

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Re: TCP/IP using perl

[Diego Iastrubni]

On שבת 07 אפריל 2012 16:39:12 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Otherwise, does Wireshark tell you anything suspicious?

You may also use "nc -l | hexdump -C" to debug the data on the "server". But I 
assume you already did that.

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writing data over RS232

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

I have been assigned at work to write a specific protocol between two 
machines, which eventually will be over RS232. As part of the development I 
decided to write it on linux, and simulate the communication using a named 
pipe. In theroy, it should be trivail since the protocol only needs to know 
about the FD to read/write to, correct? Wrong.

I face two problems (maybe one, as both problems seem similar):

When I try to read from the PC (Ubuntu 12.04, 64bit), the read just aborts 
returning "0". If I run the application several times, I somtimes see that the 
app can read ONE byte. Sometimes.

When I write from the PC, and read from the device (Andriod, 2.3.7, Linux 
2.6.38.8) the android device reads garbage. I mean, the byte count is wrong, 
and the content is usually garbage.

When I connect microcom (busybox) on Android (actually "microcom /dev/ttyS3 | 
hexdump -C") I can see that the bytes sent are mostly arriving, however maybe 
times bytes are missing, and sometimes the same bytes are read twice (I sent 
"testing 123" and read "testing 12323").

Some remarks:

- ttyS* are opened on both sides using "open(file, O_RDWR|O_NOCTTY)"
- speeds are set on both side using "csetispeed(&to, B1900);csetospeed(&to, 
B1900);", note that I lowered the speed for the test. 
- The Android side has no HW flow control (that might be the trigger).

What would you recommend me to do?

- diego

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Re: which filesystem

[Diego Iastrubni]

On שבת 11 אוגוסט 2012 14:59:29 Marc Volovic wrote:
> IMHO - xfs
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


I am sorry. I cannot take you seriously when I read those two sentences 
together. 

Please read chapters 3, 5 and 8 of the vim manual as atonement. Here are the 
links, don't even waste time looking for them:

http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_03.html
http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_05.html
http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/usr_08.html

;-)

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Re: mobile service providers updates

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שלישי 07 אוגוסט 2012 18:23:26 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> Thanks for all the fixes,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:06:08PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I figured I'd submit an update to the service providers database[1].
> > 
> > >From a quick search (using e.g. [2] and [3]) I got the following. Any
> > 
> > comments and fixes before I submit it?


I have seen that cyanogenmod also has a similar list.  Do you think they are 
separated - or cyanogenmod are pulling data from freedesktop?  I think that 
cyanogenmod's list will be more correct, or at least tested.

(I had a link to it a few days ago, if anyone can give me the git URL I will 
be happier) 

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Re: [YBA] Lenovo z580 BISO setup horror story

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום ראשון, 19 באוגוסט 2012 22:37:24 Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> I recently purchased a Lenovo Z580 Ideapad from Macsanei Hashmal.
> 
> I replaced the 750GB HD with a 240GB SSD and installed Squeeze. The
> installation succeeded but I was unable to log out - had to hold power
> button to force off.
> 
> Same story with Wheezy.
> 
> Installed Ubuntu 12.04. Seemed to work fine but I am too old to deal wuth
> Unity, so I installed Mint Xfce.
> 
> After installing Mint I am not able to get into the BIOS setup menu no
> matter what I press, either the main power key or the "recovery" key,
> whether F2 or F12, I always get to a limited boot menu that is not
> editable.
> 
> If I connect an ethernet cable, it tries to PXE, then TFTP boot until I
> press escape - not so secure.
> 
> Can't find the CMOS battery if there is one and can't find service
> documentation that would tell me where it is.
> 
> Re-installed the original 750GB HD and booted into Windows 7 Home Edition.
> Downloaded new BIOS from support.lenovo.com but it wont install.

... and? Is it working now? What have you done?

I assume this list is full os Lenovo users, and a FAIL is very important to 
hear.

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Re: Android phone question

[Diego Iastrubni]

On יום שני, 26 בנובמבר 2012 16:38:30 Steve G. wrote:
> Got myself a Galaxy Mini (was going to get Pocket, but Mini was discounted
> in Bug for Black Monday, Cyber Friday, or some such holiday).
> 
> Does all I need, more, quite well. Screen not ideal size, but frankly, the
> latest iPhones and Galaxy models are getting too big to be used as phones,
> and are too small to be used as computers.> 

Good you took the Mini, as Pocket is *way* too small. On screen keyboard will 
be useless.

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Re: CDRW error

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí øàùåï 22 ñôèîáø 2002, 14:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ëúá:
> Vendor_info: 'RICOH   '
> Identifikation : 'CD-R/RW MP7083A '
yada yada yada

you must be kidding me...

[root@localhost internet]# dmesg |grep RICOH
hdd: RICOH CD-R/RW MP7083A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
  Vendor: RICOH Model: CD-R/RW MP7083A   Rev: 1.20

I bought this cd a year ago, and I can tell you that it sucks ass. from day 
one I had this problems (windows 9X, 2000,  linux several kernels need to 
reboot, XP does not recognize it). Apparently the driver itself is locked up 
due to bad engineering, and rescanning the IDE bus will not help since the 
drive is messed up. When in doubt boot when it's a ricoh problem. 

2 days after I bought it, I changed it since it locked up the cdrw and the hd 
which was connected to the same ide bus. 

Lately I started having DMA problems in this cdrw and my cdrom ("IDE/ATAPI 
CD-ROM 52XS, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive"  is it's name) and I fixed them using 
"hdd=nodma" in the kernel parameters. In the 2.4.19 kernel there is an option 
(IDE/ATA/MFR/RLL SUPPORT -> Enable DMA only for disks) for disabling which 
does not help me. 

Here there is a nice link in this subject:
http://www.linux-thinkpad.org/bm/archives/200103/msg00145.html

BTW: Shlomo, I cannot burn with this drive in more the x4 altough I have a 
re-writable media which claims to support it. The drive itself /should/ 
support it. What is your experience?

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Re: bttv and emu10k1

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí ùìéùé 15 àå÷èåáø 2002, 03:08, Amir Tal ëúá:
> On Tuesday 15 October 2002 02:49 am, voguemaster wrote:
> > Mind my ignorance for a second, but I wasn't even aware linux supports
> > bttv based video capture cards, i'm dying to use mine on it as well!!
> > Any pointers ?
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/mini/other-formats/html_single/
>BTTV.html
>
> downloading the latest bttv modules is recommanded.
> http://bytesex.org/bttv/
they are on the kernel already. Those are experimental drivers. 

voguemaster:
which card? I have writen a nice howto in 
http://dgi_il.tripod.com/linux/flyvideo.html it explains also about lirc. If 
you wait a few weeks I will upload a kernel that will support lirc. as 
precompiled generic rpms. (any requests should be made in private to me).

Tal:
played with all pll settings? tried all flyvideo cards (autodetect should work 
quite well on those cards btw).

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Re: buttons on KDE panel don't function after RH7.3->RH8.0 upgrade

[Diego Iastrubni]

in rh7.3 kde was installed in /opt and rh8 in /usr?

anyway Boris: 
rm -f -r ~.kde
rm -f -r ~.kde3

or if you fell more expereinced delete just the kickerrc. (find it first). 
This will solve reversed hebrew problems in mdk (also remember to use system 
menus and not mdk menus. is it solved yet? in 8.1 i had that problem).

- diego
áéåí ùìéùé 15 àå÷èåáø 2002, 20:14, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Boris Gorelik wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Did anyone have this kind of problem (I tried google to find something
> > similar on the net, but no results)
> > After updating RH7.3 to 8.0, all the buttons on the kicker (the KDE
> > panel) stopped functioning: when clicking on them, I get message instile
> > of "the file or directory file:/blah/blah does not exist".
>
> What was the issue indeed? Program renamed? Package not installed? path
> changed?
>
> > The buttons even stopped
> > presenting their icons: I see cogwheels (galgal-shinaim).
> >
> > I assume that I'm not the only one who upgraded RH7.3 to 8.0, so is it
> > possible that this problemis unique to my system?
>
> Do you refer to butts that you added, or to the default buttons that were
> on the pannel?



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Re: Printing from kword

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí ùìéùé 15 àå÷èåáø 2002, 19:36, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
> > I tried printing hebrew docs from kword
> > but it keep trying to look for time or whatever font in hebrew
> > and ofcourse doesn't find them.
> > did anyone had any luck in it?
> > I ran out of ideas..
>
> I think you can alias some other font to Times in /etc/X11/XftConfig or
> ~/.XftConfig . Have a look at Mandrake's default /etc/X11/XftConfig for
> some samples.
>
> I'm not sure that the print system uses Xft, though.
alias the fonts in qtconfig? it will convice kword to swap fonts to whatever 
you want? (never tried it tough)

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Re: PCI MODEM for MDK 8.0?

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí øáéòé 16 àå÷èåáø 2002, 16:45, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:
> Hi,
>
> Intel's modem are good and supported well under Linux. Connexant based (HSF
> and HCF) are also supported well, but with the HSF variant you cannot send
> faxes.
>
> Old winmodems which uses the Lucent chipset can be used as well under Linux
> with the LTmodem module.
>
Hetz you forgot the infamous pctel modems. They are still supported under 
2.4.x.

Amichai, remember that most times you will need to copmiled the drivers 
yourself, and have at least a configured kernel at hand. Or you can d/l the 
drivers and precompiled kernel from iglu (look at /pub/Hebrew/diego, I am in 
the process to updta amd have the 2.4.19 kernel there).

btw: read this about Intel's HaM linmodem:
"I read your news on the tainted kernel issue (a module message i dispise
with a passion)

you have accomplished the task of fully enraging me. :-)

I cant stand it. Torvalds is no different than Gates.  It is a no win
situation for the developer trying to develop for both the windows and linux
worlds
world.

btw.  it looks like new developments are going to end in ham starting with
4.49

it looks like it is going to reach end of life.  new products and continued
development will be with the 536ep and 537."

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Re: Gentoo

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 23:37, Eli Marmor ëúá:
> Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > This is not accurate.
> > What these results mean is that the gcc optimizations for 586 and for
> > 686 are not very different. The CPU itself might optimize things quite
> > differently, with or without the help of the compiler.
> > To see the difference between 586 and 686 you need to measure some
> > activity (like konq startup) in both and divide the time by the Mhz.
> > You will probably find that for most tests (like this one), the newer
> > machine will be much slower, because most of the relevant hardware in
> > the machine progressed much less than the CPU. E.g. in a 100Mhz 586
> > you will probably find a disk that is 1.5 times slower (in access time,
> > not throuput) than in a 400Mhz 686, so the 686 will come out 3 times
> > slower per Mhz, if the measured activity is heavily dependant on the
> > access time of the disk. The same is true (with different ratios) for
> > disk throuput, RAM access and throuput, etc.
who cares about it? I want my box to load in less time... lieave this bs to 
amd/intels/transmeta analists...
>
> The real news is not 586 vs. 686;
> The real story is both vs. 386.
not only, my question is: will I get more speed (less latency actually) if 
i"ll compile everything for 686?

> And please don't argue with me (Ira - you too);
> I responded to Diego.
> I assume that his results are accurate.
not too much, don't count on this.

> And in any case, he didn't compare two different computers with
> different disks/RAM/etc.;
> He compared 386 performance with 586/686, ON THE SAME COMPUTER.
> So there is no excuse for getting better results with the 386
> compilation.
> It's not the disk/RAM/etc.;
> It's the CPU, stupid!  ;-)
or the s/w. Please have in mind that kde2.2.2 and kde3.1 are written very 
differently. In kde 2.2.2 the part that took the most time in "botting kde" 
was loading the window manager,  while in kde3.1 was the peripherals phase 
(which took I think 4-6 secs while in kde2.2.2 1 sec)

> If his results are right (Ira, please notice the word "if" and similar
> words that were used in my previous message), then it means that no
> progress has been achieved in the microprocessor industry for 15 years,
> except for more and more Hertz's.
again please read the message I sent you in private, you will see my point of 
view.

I started gentooing my mdk after the last debate on gentoo in which Tzafrir 
proposed the same he proposing now: optimize 20% of the package which do 80% 
of the work and get almost the same results.  Tzafrir: have you done it 
somewhere?

(Next in list are glibc, which I will be cool to update, xfree, bash (if 
scripts handling getting faster on new version?). If anyone can comment on 
compiling srpms of those packages please post your observations). 

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Re: Gentoo

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 11:32, Ira Abramov ëúá:
> Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Tue, 22 Oct:
> because some people prefer "plain vanilla" with no extra optimizations.
> that's what Gentoo is for - for the people who DO.
>
> and you'll be surprised, ppl still run a few 486 machines here and
> there.
not for desktop machines, the debate here is about desktops. In kdelibs 
mailing list there was an intersting debate on that subject.

> > But the real mystery is the amazing results that Diego achieved ON THE
> > SAME COMPUTER; If 386-compiled executables run faster than 586-compiled
> > and 686-compiled, then RH decision is clear and understood, but the
> > amazing results are less understood.
> >
> > Anybody from Intel to explain how it is possible?
>
> ofcourse. the binary could be in the cache, or some libraries needed to
> swap out, or some random daemon to be started... the first start is
> always slower than the following. there are 501 parameters that can
> influence this, and the test was not done in laboratory conditions.
>
> what's your obsession with his results?
I tried it a few times, after a while it got shorter, but I do think that this 
is the normal ammount of time I spend looking at ksplash.



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Re: Gentoo

[Diego Iastrubni]

áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá:
> Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it
> does here).
>
> This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office
> (celleron 400 + 256MB) running kde 3.0.4, not to the hardware you describe.
>
> Konqy (3.1 from cvs) on my home machine (P3 866 512MB) starts in 1sec.
>
> I doubt that you'll see much improvement going from i585 to i686 in compile
> flags. For kde's performance (and other C++ code) it is advised to use
> binutils which enables -combreloc by default, and use gcc3 for the compile.
-combreloc ? that's new to me? can you give me an fmtr?

> Since you're using athlon xp, gcc 3.2 (or 3.1.1) can optimize for this
> specific CPU (-march=athlon-xp). I also apply other optimzation (there's a
> very long thread about it in Gentoo's forums called CFLAGS central).
I tried gcc 3.2 from mdk 9.0. I took the srpm and recompiled it for my distro 
(had to hack the spec a little for avoiding builing some packages).
I compiled qt, kde and the damm thing did not work, so I cleaned the dirs and 
recompiled, after a few hours the same thing. QT worked flwalesly, but I had 
dcop problems. I upgraded my binutils to binutils-2.12.90.0.15-1mdk (again 
recompiled from srpms to i686). 

I think I will install gcc3.2 again (I need to remove gcc2.96 for that, since 
they overwrite some files, and I will need to tweak config file s a little) 
and see what happens.

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boot time measures

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hello all,

I have been testing my box, to see how fast it boots up and down. I made this 
test in two different os'es: mdk8.1 (which was heavily patched, and will be 
described latter), and mdk9.0. The h/w is AMD Athlon XP1600+ with 256mb ram, 
and a 40gb h/d (IBM).

Both of those osses logged in by default into a kde environment: mdk8.1 I set 
kdm to autologin, and in mdk9.0 I used autologin itself (kdm was not used 
until after I log out). The time was measured (by hand) between the time I 
press the enter button in lilo, and the time ksplash was closed. The 
downtime, was measured from the time I press the mouse (on the shutdown icon) 
to the time when the computer has completely off. (kmenu->close 
enviroment->shut down or an icon in the desktop which called "shutdown -h 
now").

I verified that the environment was not loaded with tons of app's. The one 
which were loaded are: klipper, korganizer (only the kicker icon) and the 
sound applet.

Needless to say that the box is the same for all those tests and the machine 
was shutdown'ed between tests.

The patches on the mdk8,1:
First of all it uses a self compiled kernel, (which I intend to upload to iglu 
soon): with low latency, preemtible and supermount. Then I updated modutils, 
binutils and several other packages which are non relevant here. The kde used 
is kde3.1rc3 and qt3.1b2. Both compiled with gcc2.96 (did not update that 
one, the original one from mdk8.1).

Th mdk9.0 is running the same kde but with qt3.1 (final) and compiled with 
gcc3.2 (that comes in mdk9.0). 



results: 


mdk 8.1 (up/down in [min]:sec:msec):
  first round  -> 50:21/17:39
  second round ->  , 50:94/17:05

mdk9.0 (logging into kde3.03 from mdk9.0):
  first round -> 55:59/21:78
  second round -> 55:69 / 22:00

mdk9.0 (logging into self compiled kde 3.1)
  first round * -> 1:05:01 / 21:30
  second round -> 57:60/22:18
  third round -> 1:08:09/22:98
  forth round -> 1:08:26/21:98

(the first round, kde loaded konqui, konsole, xchat, kopete, and kget, the 
others did not).

mdk9.0 (logging into kde3.1 using the same kernel which was used in mdk 8.1)
  first round ->  54:10/18:53
  second round -> 55:59/19:98


For perspective, when I got this machine it was installed with Windows XP, and 
from the time I pressed the POWER button on the machine to the moment it 
finished loading up, it took 36 seconds. The time was doubled when I 
installed linux and win2k on the same machine. The system menus, lilo and 
winxp's menu, made that load a little slower (30 secs more) even though each 
was configured to continue after 3 secs.

Some more times:
In mdk 9.0 the self compiled kde3.1 and the default 3.03 logs in about 15 sec 
the first time and ~8.5 seconds. the second time, in mdk8.1 it takes about 
20-25 secs the first time, and 12-15 the second time.. "free" shows that no 
virtual memory is used at all in both oses.


Hope you enjoy it, and find it more pleasent then it was for me to measure 
it...  ;-) 

- diego



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[aanounce] kernel rpms round 3

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hello linuxers

I have uploaded to iglu, my third round of kernel rpms. Tease are 2.4.19 
kernel rpms patched with lowlatency patch, preemtible kernel and supermount. 

I also uploaded some linmodems drivers and lirc. (lirc is going to be more 
generic in the future). I also uploaded a few programs which use lirc (xmms 
lirc driver xawtv, and soon maybe xine). 

I also uploaded an update for modutils. linux-utils, e2fs-progs, reiserfsprogs 
 All were compiled in mdk8.1 so I guess that they should work with all above 
(packages were tested with mkd9.0 as well). I think RedHat 7.2 and 7.3 are 
good candidates for using any packages here.

Why installing those rpms? 
If you have a linmodem, you may want to d/l the kernel and d/l the precompiled 
driver for your modem. 
This kernel was splited into several packages, and by this making the d/l 
smaller. You don't need USB? no problems, don't download nor install it. You 
need USB suddenly? No problems Just install the USB packages and you are 
done. No more recompiling the kernel. The kernel almost as good as if it was 
compiled by you!

Hopefully soon I will be able to upload also a 2.4.20 version, if it is 
needed.

Notes:
The rpms do not install them selves in lilo/grub so you will need to do it 
yourself. The kernel images are in /boot/2.4.19/bzImage-2.4.19-1iglu.

If you have problems in the depmod -a, you may want to update modutils. I 
compiled a update from mdk's sources. It's on the mdk-misk dir.

The kernel and rpm's can be found at: 
ftp://iglu.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Rpms/kernel

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Hebrew locale in mandrake 9.0

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hello all,

Anyone has succeed in writing hebrew in xchat (or any other program that 
inputs 8bit hebrew) in mandrake 9.0? The locales are installed and supported 
by the system but I get:

Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting string to compound text.
This might mean that your locale setting is supported
by the C library but not by Xlib.


Ideas?

- diego


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Re: [aanounce] kernel rpms round 3

[Diego Iastrubni]

áùáú, 30 áðåáîáø 2002, 10:21, Muli Ben-Yehuda ëúá:
> Note that while I have no idea what Diego's kernel rpms contain,
> calling them "2.4.19" does injustice to the real 2.4.19. So which
> kernel is giving you headaches?
I have explained exactly what they have. I will put the sources and the spec 
in iglu soon, I just need tofix them and make them more bewtuifull.

Maybe I should upload a 2.4.20 as well?

> Did you report all of those problems to the proper place? (which would
> depend on which kernel exactly you're running).
>
> > I would -especially- NOT install it from RPMs, needless to say patched
> > up. Then again, The Light Of Debian relieves me from this unhappy deed.
>
> What have you got against RPMized kernels?
how aobut he is a debian man? good point there


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Re: Hebrew locale in mandrake 9.0 (solution)

[Diego Iastrubni]

áùáú, 30 áðåáîáø 2002, 01:17, Ilya Konstantinov ëúá:
> On Saturday 30 November 2002 01:03, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Anyone has succeed in writing hebrew in xchat (or any other program that
> > inputs 8bit hebrew) in mandrake 9.0? The locales are installed and
> > supported by the system but I get:
> >
> > Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting string to compound text.
> > This might mean that your locale setting is supported
> > by the C library but not by Xlib.
>
> It means just what it says -- Xlib doesn't support that locale.
> Would be useful if you'd give us the output of "locale" and "locale
> charmap".
>
> One thing I'd check is that your locale either appears in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir or
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias.

[root@localhost test]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.dir| grep he
#   The first word is the locale database file name and
#   the second word is full locale name.
iso8859-8/XLC_LOCALEhe_IL.ISO8859-8
microsoft-cp1255/XLC_LOCALE he_IL.CP1255
# Note: The UTF-8 locales don't work correctly yet. Work in progress.
en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE  he_IL.UTF-8
#   The first word is the locale database file name and
#   the second word is full locale name.
iso8859-8/XLC_LOCALE:   he_IL.ISO8859-8
microsoft-cp1255/XLC_LOCALE:he_IL.CP1255
# Note: The UTF-8 locales don't work correctly yet. Work in progress.
en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE: he_IL.UTF-8


[root@localhost test]# cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias| grep he
#   The first word is the alias name (simplified locale name)
#   the second word is full locale name.
# cz is old name for cs, should be deleted in the future:
he  he_IL.UTF-8
he_IL   he_IL.UTF-8
he_IL.ISO-8859-8he_IL.ISO8859-8
he_IL.cp1255he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.microsoftcp1255   he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.microsoft-cp1255  he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.MICROSOFT-CP1255  he_IL.CP1255
# in was the old iso code for indonesian (now id):
# iw was the old iso code for hebrew (now he)
iw  he_IL.ISO8859-8
iw_IL   he_IL.ISO8859-8
iw_IL.ISO-8859-8he_IL.ISO8859-8
#   The first word is the alias name (simplified locale name)
#   the second word is full locale name.
# cz is old name for cs, should be deleted in the future:
he: he_IL.UTF-8
he_IL:  he_IL.UTF-8
he_IL.ISO-8859-8:   he_IL.ISO8859-8
he_IL.cp1255:   he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.microsoftcp1255:  he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.microsoft-cp1255: he_IL.CP1255
he_IL.MICROSOFT-CP1255: he_IL.CP1255
# in was the old iso code for indonesian (now id):
# iw was the old iso code for hebrew (now he)
iw: he_IL.ISO8859-8
iw_IL:  he_IL.ISO8859-8
iw_IL.ISO-8859-8:   he_IL.ISO8859-8

[test@localhost test]$ locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE="he_IL"
LC_NUMERIC="he_IL"
LC_TIME="he_IL"
LC_COLLATE="he_IL"
LC_MONETARY="he_IL"
LC_MESSAGES="he_IL"
LC_PAPER="he_IL"
LC_NAME="he_IL"
LC_ADDRESS="he_IL"
LC_TELEPHONE="he_IL"
LC_MEASUREMENT="he_IL"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="he_IL"
LC_ALL=he_IL

I run xchat (1.8.9) in the latter configuration, and I was not able to write 
hebrew. Selecting hebrew and pasting it worked.

[test@localhost test]$ locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_NUMERIC="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_TIME="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_COLLATE="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_MONETARY="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_MESSAGES="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_PAPER="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_NAME="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_ADDRESS="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="he_IL.ISO8859-8"
LC_ALL=he_IL.ISO8859-8

now all works.
Well apparebtly mandrake are hearing you Ilia, and fucking arround with stuff 
that they should not. In mdk9.0 he_IL == he_IL..utf8, but that's written 
above already...  

solution: set the locale to iw_IL, or dump mandrake to gentoo (sounds better 
every day...)

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wine spec?

[Diego Iastrubni]

I am compiling wine most of the, time and would like to package it before 
installing. Anyone has a nice spec made up before I make one/google for one? 



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adsl usb modems

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models actcom 
gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and how much are 
good or not.

>From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb seems 
better then nic+modem (less money...)

Thanks a lot.

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Re: adsl usb modems

[Diego Iastrubni]

here are the links to this usb driver:

http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php
http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/eciadsl-usermode-0.6-2.i386.rpm

I think it is for this modem:
http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?lang=fr&modem=17

can anyone confirm that?  is this the Rotal modem mentioned in hetz howto? 

 I want a free modem! (free=hinam..., and I know what that means, my box will 
not be up 24/7...)

hetz: in penguin.org there is only a source code. please upload also the rpm 
(and deb when available). 

now hear (was kinda funny): i called yes to ask which modems do they give, and 
the *not* cure chick (which could barly read nor distinguish a pc and a 
microwave) said: pci and usb. I sayd cool, which companies. so I said again 
which companies, she said again pci and usb. i tried to explain her that I 
dont have windows installed so she told me to install xp at that point i 
asked her to call support and 
áéåí øàùåï 19 éðåàø 2003, 14:01, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:
> > I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models
> > actcom gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and
> > how much are good or not.
>
> Some of them are supported (I don't know which modems Actcom gives - I'm
> talking about the modems which rotal [my employer] gives).
>
> Those modems are cheap Winmodems, and by writing cheap I mean REALLY cheap
> stuff, so if you have even slight of a random noise on the line - they'll
> disconnect from the "Merkezet"/"Dislam"/redback, whatever...
>
> As for support - I posted here some instructions how to use them on linux
> (the ALE070, not the ALE130) - check it at http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz
>
> Those modems are working really bad (if at all) with OHCI based USB chipset
> - if you have: ALI, AMD, VIA, SIS, NEC, or Intel 82371 chipset (you can
> check in linux by running: /sbin/lspci | grep USB ) then chances are that
> the modem will have tons of disconnections.
>
> > From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb
> > seems better then nic+modem (less money...)
>
> Less money, more troubles - I've been there. A simple NIC costs 40-70 NIS,
> depends where you buy it. An Alcatel modem (bezeq stopped importing it)
> costs at ebay about $20-50, and you can take my word for it - it worths
> every shekel/dollar!
>
> Also, don't forget that those modems use your CPU for all the work needed
> to be done on a dedicated modem like Alcatel, Orkit or Samsung [external] -
> so if you have a slow processor, it will only be slower..
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz


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errors in routing table

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi list,

I have  a problem with my adsl connection. It's a samsung external modem. I am 
using the rp-pppoe-3.5-1, from http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

The problem is that after I start the adsl-start script, my default gate way 
is 10.0.03 (or what ever the dhcp server on that modem gave my nic). 

What I am doing now is delete the default gateway and then making a new one to 
actcom's default. After that my connection works great. 

Does anybody know a way to fix it? (except just putting those commands in 
/etc/init.d/rc.local). 

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Re: Mandrake product lifetime

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áéåí ùéùé, 7 áôáøåàø 2003, 12:30, shlomo solomon ëúá:
> This should interest Mandrake users. The company has published a policy
> regarding how long they will support each version of Mandrake with security
> updates. The short answer is that if you have anything earlier than 9.0,
> you should consider updating. If you have 7.*, it's already not being
> updated. More details here:
>
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3
>
>
> BTW - I read that there should be KDE 3.1 RPMs for Mandrake 9.0 withion a
> few days. Apparently Mandrake Club members already have access to this.

or you can get other rpms from here:


ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.0/KDE-3.1/

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Re: Re: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0

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áùáú, 8 áôáøåàø 2003, 21:20, Tzafrir Cohen ëúá:
> * Another small change with XFree 4.3: (){}[]<> . All of those eight keys
> were mirrored. This is expected to confuse KDE , but help to mozilla and
> probably to OpenOffice.

yes... I asked Lars to "hack" that, now he needs to reverse it...

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Re: Re: Re: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0

[Diego Iastrubni]

well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like in 
windows

Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close them.
How they are represented on screen is another thing. X is doing something that 
before qt did. I actually bereave the bidi should be rendered inside X and 
not gtk or qt.

This is exactly just like logical hebrew again. Before people used  visual 
hebrew since logical was not available, but when logical was available it had 
broken the visual which was hacked.


- diego
áéåí øàùåï, 9 áôáøåàø 2003, 20:41, Nadav Har'El ëúá:
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Re: xkb handling in 
upcoming 4.3.0":
> > Well, if anybody has any objections now, all I can say is that it was
> > open ofr comments on ivrix-discuss and i18n@xfree for quite a while, and
not everybody knows or uses those mailing lists... if you find something 
interesting post it here, we will discuss it until our mail box will be too 
full and the you can post the results to the original mailing list. No cross 
posting.

> > there were practically no negative comments (to my surprise. I didn't
> > like this proposed change, and was looking for such comments!)
>
> This is true, but "no negative comments" is hardly a reason to make such a
> big (compatibility-wise) change... Does anybody know the "official"
> rationale behind this change?  Is it somehow dictated by Unicode?
>
> BTW, note that not only X has a Hebrew keymap - some other applications
> have their own, most notably Vim. Is anybody planning to switch parantheses
> in Vim too?


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Re: xkb handling in upcoming 4.3.0

[Diego Iastrubni]

Then we agree: it's a bug in X. 

Who shall report?  

Note to self: dont upgrade to X 4.3 yet.

- diego

ביום שני, 10 בפברואר 2003, 10:34, Lars Knoll כתב:
> > On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > > well, I do think that it should be done by a higher level toolkit. Like
> > > in windows
> > >
> > > Please remember that shift9 means open braces, and shift0 means close
> > > them. How they are represented on screen is another thing. X is doing
> > > something that before qt did. I actually bereave the bidi should be
> > > rendered inside X and not gtk or qt.
> > >
> > > This is exactly just like logical hebrew again. Before people used
> > > visual hebrew since logical was not available, but when logical was
> > > available it had broken the visual which was hacked.
> >
> > Quite frankly this is also my opinion. But when I stated it on
> > ivrix-discuss, the majority of the opinions there were that the mirroring
> > should be done in the keymap level.
> >
> > Add to that the fact that the two newer "bidi" keyboard layouts (Farsi
> > and Syriac) have parens mirrored. (Though The arabic one doesn't have
> > mirroring), and I did want to reduce inconcintency within XFree.
>
> This sucks, as it makes it impossible to find one solution for X11. However
> I implement the handling in Qt, it will be broken for one of the layouts.
> Either we make all of them logically or all visually.
>
> I would very much prefer logical handling. It's consistent to the Unicode
> standard, and a lot easier implementation wise. That would mean that the
> keysym parenleft effectively means openparen and always maps to the unicode
> char 0x28. Anything else is only making everybodies life difficult and
> makes it impossible to conform 100% to Unicode.
>
> Lars
>
> > Some references:
> >
> >   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel.ivrix.discuss/37
> >
> >   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.region.israel.ivrix.discuss/91
> >
> > (BTW: news://news.gmame.org/gmane.linux.region.israel/ is this list, for
> > those who didn't know)
>
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Re: mplayer 0.90 is around the corner

[Diego Iastrubni]

I have compiled the rh rpm in my mandrake 9 and found no problems with the 
gui. What are you talking about?

- diego
áéåí ùìéùé, 11 áôáøåàø 2003, 14:43, Ira Abramov ëúá:
> Quoting Ely Levy, from the post of Tue, 11 Feb:
> > what was the end in the argument between mplayer's dev
> > and debian about the license thing?
>
> I stopped reading the thread after some point, because everyone were
> shouting and flaming and not listening to eachother. rough summery:
>
> deb-dev: your code implements patents illegally, and you already
> released in the past GPL code that was illegal to distribute precompiled
> and other problems (like no runtime CPU detection).
>
> gabucino: it's no more illegal than xine which you included in "main",
> go see for yourself. people are asking me why mplayer isn't, will you
> add me into the distro, apes?
>
> deb-dev: we can't add this legal time-bomb to the main archive, continue
> this discussion on debian-legal
>
> gabucino: you are f&%$^ing pompous, have you even read the GPL? don't
> you know you are trying to limit my free speech? who needs you anyway?
>
> (and so on, it was really rediculous and childlish, sadly)
>
> > (I hope they would get GUI to work normaly before 0.90..)
>
> 3% chance of that :)


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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

[Diego Iastrubni]

the real isssue here is how Opera are offending the sweeden people

btw: MS were trting to push somehing similar in IE6, anyone remember...?

ביום ראשון, 16 בפברואר 2003, 17:29, Nadav Har'El כתב:
> According to
> http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2439013,00.html
>
> Opera has a new special version which "messes" with MSN.com, translating
> its text into "swedish chef" language [1].
>
> See also http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/index.dml
>
> Apparently, this is a protest against Microsoft's insistance on creating
> software that makes it easy to create broken unstandard pages that will
> only work with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and with making their own
> pages deliberately send broken pages to users of specific browsers.
>
>
> [1] Never heard of Swedish Chef speak? Check out:
>   http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/
>   http://www.almac.co.uk/chef/chef/chef.html
>   http://tbrowne.best.vwh.net/chef-faq.html
>
> P.S.
> By the way, it's interesting to note that the reason why Netscape decided
> to make Mozilla free-software was because Netscape's main businness was
> servers, and people were beginning to turn away from Netscape servers
> because Microsoft, with it's huge monopoly in browsers, was beginning to
> invent their own web standards
>  So maybe in order to stop their browser monopoly our (free software
> people) goal should be to push a free server (including all the ASP,VB, and
> other crap that MS developers love to use) to replace Microsoft's?


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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

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if you set dhcp, you wil get an address from 10.0.0.4 to 10.0.0.7, you can 
also staticly set it to 10.0.0.1 (which I dont think it is recommended)
áéåí øàùåï, 16 áôáøåàø 2003, 19:16, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:
> > Not much is needed. You need the roaring penguin's rp-pppoe. I guess you
> > should have a package of RH already installed, if not get it from the
> > site:
> >
> > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
>
> Installed that.
>
> > You can also find instructions there. After the package is installed
> > (along with pppd of course), run:
> >
> > adsl-setup
> >
> > And answer the questions. To connect do:
> > adsl-start
>
> OK.
>
> > The modem's IP address is 10.0.0.2.
>
> And the NIC IP is?
>
> I didn't manage to get it connected. I tried with @OBezeq, with a real
> user/pass - but the authentication always failed. I tried with different
> NIC (should the NIC have any IP or just configure it to connect to a some
> DHCP?)
>
> Weird...
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
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Re: Rotal ADSL USB modem driver

[Diego Iastrubni]

you add luck. I once setup up a machine, and it did not recognize the modem.

lsub showed the modem. 

linux drivers sux.

- diego
בשבת 22 פברואר 2003, 15:52, Muli Ben-Yehuda כתב:
> Hi Hetz,
>
> Using your howto at http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz/adsl-usb-howto.txt
> I was able to set up a USB ADSL Modem ALE 070 for friends. However,
> using the ECI driver snapshot you link to at
> http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz/usb-adsl-cvs.tar.gz, the modem
> disconnected every 60 seconds. Using the latest userspace development
> driver from http://eciadsl.sourceforge.net/, the problem
> disappeared. FYI.


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Re: Rotal ADSL USB modem driver

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בשבת 22 פברואר 2003, 17:43, Muli Ben-Yehuda כתב:
> On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 05:20:03PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> > you add luck. I once setup up a machine, and it did not recognize
> > the modem.
>
> Neither did this one, until I performed the correct incantations. Did
> you? it required reading the HOWTO, the TROUBLESHOOTING and some head
> scratching.
>
> > lsub showed the modem.
> >
> > linux drivers sux.
>
> Companies who don't release documentation suck. People who complain

yes, that s really a problem. But sometimes drivers have patents, and there is 
not real way to release full open source. I found that problem when I used a 
winmodem. I could buy a full h/w but it cost much more.

Anyway what I mean in the last post, was that the release cycles of linux 
drivers, are many times too slow and contain more bugs. While in windows you 
can most times have a back up driver (windows original, in case of video 
cards chipset drivers or company drivers), here you have only one driver. 

Many times linux drivers are bad, not compile, and just dont work, but again 
this happens in windows too. I wish There were more tested binaries drivers, 
at least for big distros (rh, mdk, suse etc).  A thing which is not always 
available. This is the fault of h/w designers, who not only do not distribute 
the specs for the dh/w, not do not even distrubute a working binarie driver.


BTW: Marc,

how about Hurd? have you tested it? 
How will be the status of drivers there? 

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Hebrew fonts on the web (was: Re: Mazal Tov! (fonts))

[Diego Iastrubni]

I saw the article on whatsup I think, and started to d/l fonts and install 
them. Both on RH8.0 and MDK9.0.

Somehow most of the fonts were not usable in kde3/gtk(1/2).
I did not investigate it too much, as all I saw were squares.

In rh I put the fotns in ~/.fonts.
In mdk I did ttmkfdir - fonts.dir; chkcfontpath --add `pwd` and edited 
/etc/X11/Xftconfig


Any one else tested?

- diego
ביום ראשון 23 פברואר 2003, 09:51, Ira Abramov כתב:
> Quoting Tzafrir Cohen, from the post of Sun, 23 Feb:
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Ira Abramov wrote:
> > > indeed, I see they added a few more fonts and renamed them. if memory
> > > served they used to call them differently before.
> >
> > Your memory doesn't serve you right, I figure...
>
> /usr/share/doc/culmus/changelog.gz on Debian:
>
> "Font family Dror has been renamed to Frank Ruehl to maintain consistency
> with common conventions."
>
> "Hasida family discontinued in favor of Miriam Mono."
>
> there were a few changes, as I see :)
>
> I just want to be calm about the font designs' ownerships, and that the
> copyrighters do allow the use of the designs and names in a GPL package.
>
> I don't surf much in Israeli sites, but people tell me there are a lot
> of free decorative TTFs for DL, anyone knows any good ones that are also
> Free? well, even if they don't come with a source, at least ones that
> permit redistribution and unrestricted use (e.g. in a commercial
> environmrnt). Until we get the big bodies to release fonts Libre, I'd
> like to find a few more Gratis, unlimited-use ones.


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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc

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ביום שני 24 פברואר 2003, 12:51, Muli Ben-Yehuda כתב:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 12:48:34PM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote:
> > Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ?
>
> http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCate
>gory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12
>
> Good article about it here:
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4885
>
> > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2..
>
> I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that snapshot
> gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly.

so it is good? 
how about compiling big programs? 
qt/kde?  kernel?



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Nice emails templates for mozilla

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi,

I have a dul boot syetem, because most of the sites my mother and father view 
are not compatible with mozilla/konqueror, or xine/mplyer lucks the plugins 
for vieweing the streaming medias.

I setup on windows mozilla (1.3b), as a browser for me, and the default mail 
handler. 

My mopm tried it, but she misses all the nice templates found in OE. I am 
talking about html mail, which look very nice and are inserted to the mail by 
pressing a button. Any one knows where can I find something similar to 
mozilla's mail?


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Re: GDM .. still locks

[Diego Iastrubni]

xdm is themeable?
since when? 4.3? 
looks good. what is new in this program?

- diego


ביום רביעי 26 פברואר 2003, 08:40, Eli Segal כתב:
> yesterday again ! when i went out of fvwm to gdm
> it lock on gdm and nothing worked even SysRq didn't
> (and i have and tested it)
> this is very strange as in happens only when I'm on gdm
> Anyhow i moved to xdm and i'll see if it happen again.
>
> OT : I found some really nice XDM screenshots with their files 
> http://xdm.house.cx/gallery/xdm
>
>
> Eli Segal
> Bar Technologies
>
>
>
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Re: MSIE websites

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ביום רביעי 26 פברואר 2003, 11:14, David Howard כתב:
> Hi to all from 30 cm of snow in Jerusalem.
>
> Further to the recent thread on Israeli websites "optimized" for MSIE, I
> ran into this problem again this morning on two sites:
>
> http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/Gallery.jhtml?groupId=7
> http://www.elal.co.il/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=700&V_LANG_ID=0&initiateProfile=
>true
>
> Forgive my relative ignorance of the technicalities of the required
> plugins, but this seems to me a signal for serious protest.
> The problem was the same in Mozilla (1.2.1) and Galeon (1.2.7), both
> with java, javascript, and shockwave flash enabled as plugins. What
> additional crap does MSIE have to enable full access? Can this crap be
> enabled also in Moz/Gal?
 

gee, I dont know... lets look at the code from the html:

function changePic(dir,i){
if(browser=="Microsoft Internet Explorer"){
   ArrayLength = document.all.pics.length;
   ArrayLength = ArrayLength*1;
   ArrayLength = ArrayLength-1;
(and goes on...)


In conclusion: stupid web designers. That's all.

Tomorrow only Subarus will be able to go in Ayalon... 

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Re: MSIE websites

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ביום רביעי 26 פברואר 2003, 11:43, Diego Iastrubni כתב:
> ביום רביעי 26 פברואר 2003, 11:14, David Howard כתב:
> > Hi to all from 30 cm of snow in Jerusalem.
> >
> > Further to the recent thread on Israeli websites "optimized" for MSIE, I
> > ran into this problem again this morning on two sites:
> >
> > http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/Gallery.jhtml?groupId=7
> > http://www.elal.co.il/default.asp?V_DOC_ID=700&V_LANG_ID=0&initiateProfil
> >e= true



> function changePic(dir,i){
> if(browser=="Microsoft Internet Explorer"){
>ArrayLength = document.all.pics.length;
>ArrayLength = ArrayLength*1;
>ArrayLength = ArrayLength-1;
> (and goes on...)

that was for haaretzdaily.
Whats wrong with elal? 
I have tried to book a flight and did not have success.

Tested in konqui 3.03

- diego


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