Re: OT: heard about internetto?

2010-08-20 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On יום חמישי 19 אוגוסט 2010 23:09:29 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
> I'm not sure it's really worth it. Last I checked, you could get a
> voice line from BEZEQ for 15 NIS a month, if you only used it for a
> small number of calls a month. For that price, I would rather keep a
> line from them and have a dumb phone on it to make calls when my VoIP
> line was down.

Having called Bezeq myself yesterday after reading Hetz's blog, this is what I 
understand from them:

* kav kal - 25mis per month. 0.25 agorot per minute of call
http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/PhoneLines/KavKal/Pages/kavkal.aspx

* kav muzal - 35mis per month. 0.15 agorot per minute:
http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/Phonelines/DiscountedLine/Pages/discountedline.aspx

On top of that you need to pay for the tashtit (look the small prints, 3 three 
months have different price), look also for NGN on that page:
81.90 nis - 2mbps
99.90 nis - 5mbps

http://www.bezeq.co.il/Internet/FastInternet/intsale/Pages/surfingpacks.aspx

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Re: OT: heard about internetto?

2010-08-20 Thread Stan Goodman
At 18:46:18 on Friday Friday 20 August 2010, Diego Iastrubni 
 wrote:
> On יום חמישי 19 אוגוסט 2010 23:09:29 geoffrey mendelson wrote:
> > I'm not sure it's really worth it. Last I checked, you could get a
> > voice line from BEZEQ for 15 NIS a month, if you only used it for a
> > small number of calls a month. For that price, I would rather keep a
> > line from them and have a dumb phone on it to make calls when my VoIP
> > line was down.
>
> Having called Bezeq myself yesterday after reading Hetz's blog, this is
> what I understand from them:
>
> * kav kal - 25mis per month. 0.25 agorot per minute of call
> http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/PhoneLines/KavKal/Pages/kavkal.aspx

In fact, of course, the cost for calls is 25 agorot/min, not 0.25. Makes a 
difference.

For comparison, using the VoIP connection I already have, and adding an 
Israel DID number would cost $5/mo for the DID (~NIS20); price for calls 
is $0.019/minute (~8 agorot). The advantage, although it won't change my 
financial condition, is in favor of VoIP.

That the ASDL modem I have from Bezeq is the same one I would get for 
Internetto, so I don't see that there are any additional infrastructure 
costs for Bezeq; I would not need equipment for VoIP.

The VoIP solution also relieves me of extra charges for "other carriers", 
i.e. for the privilege of calling this or that cellular company.

> * kav muzal - 35mis per month. 0.15 agorot per minute:
> http://www.bezeq.co.il/Telephony/Phonelines/DiscountedLine/Pages/discou
>ntedline.aspx
>
> On top of that you need to pay for the tashtit (look the small prints,
> 3 three months have different price), look also for NGN on that page:
> 81.90 nis - 2mbps
> 99.90 nis - 5mbps
>
> http://www.bezeq.co.il/Internet/FastInternet/intsale/Pages/surfingpacks
>.aspx
>
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Re: OT: heard about internetto?

2010-08-20 Thread Ori Berger

Stan Goodman wrote:
For comparison, using the VoIP connection I already have, and adding an 
Israel DID number would cost $5/mo for the DID (~NIS20); price for calls 
is $0.019/minute (~8 agorot). The advantage, although it won't change my 
financial condition, is in favor of VoIP.

.
.
.
The VoIP solution also relieves me of extra charges for "other carriers", 
i.e. for the privilege of calling this or that cellular company.


Am I reading correctly that your VoIP provider lets you call Cellular 
providers for less than 2 cents a minute? If so, could you please tell 
us who that is?


e.g. grnvoip, which is cheap (though not the cheapest) gives 
1c/bezeq&hot, 8c/mobile. 
 
I would happily switch to a cheaper provider.


Ori

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official way to load aoe module?

2010-08-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,
I'm trying to write a small mini-guide about AoE. So far, so good..

The problem I'm facing is simple: what is the official way to autoload a
module such aoe in distributions like CentOS/RedHat? I can put a simple
modprobe line in rc.local but that doesn't look like a clean way..

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: official way to load aoe module?

2010-08-20 Thread Lior Kaplan
The RedHat way:
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-kernel-modules-persistant.html

Kaplan

2010/8/21 Hetz Ben Hamo 

> Hi,
> I'm trying to write a small mini-guide about AoE. So far, so good..
>
> The problem I'm facing is simple: what is the official way to autoload a
> module such aoe in distributions like CentOS/RedHat? I can put a simple
> modprobe line in rc.local but that doesn't look like a clean way..
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
> --
> my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org
> Skype: heunique
> MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org
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Re: official way to load aoe module?

2010-08-20 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Weird, they don't even create the file.

Thank you Lior.

Hetz

2010/8/21 Lior Kaplan 

> The RedHat way:
> http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/s1-kernel-modules-persistant.html
>
> Kaplan
>
> 2010/8/21 Hetz Ben Hamo 
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm trying to write a small mini-guide about AoE. So far, so good..
>>
>> The problem I'm facing is simple: what is the official way to autoload a
>> module such aoe in distributions like CentOS/RedHat? I can put a simple
>> modprobe line in rc.local but that doesn't look like a clean way..
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hetz
>>
>> --
>> my blog (hebrew): http://benhamo.org
>> Skype: heunique
>> MSN: hetz-b...@benhamo.org
>>
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