Re: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 19:44 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: > The Bituah Leumi site does not work in Firefox: > https://b2b.btl.gov.il/b2b/ > > There is a phone number on that page. Call them next week! Let them > know that not the whole world uses Windows! > > > While you are at it, if you can figure out to whom to complain about > this site, then let me know: > https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ > > Thanks! > We're long past the talking stage. IMHO, we (as in non-Window-using-community) need the following: - Someone with (a lot? of) free time to galvanize the efforts. - A hub. (Site, facebook, linked-in, etc) - Money. (I'm willing to pledge 1K nis for the effort) - A good attorney that handles supreme court cases. In theory, (and sadly enough, without the man power to push it forward, it'll remain a theory) the following steps should be taken: - Setup a site that will be used as a hub to collect funds and volunteers. - Locate a good attorney. - Select several high profile targets (gov.il comes to mind) and sue them for say, price of Windows * 5% of all computers in IL. This should get their attention. - Speaking of attention, make a lot of noise about it in the press. News papers usually dig under-dog-vs-government type of wars. I'd do it myself, but I'm over-worked as it is :( - Gilboa ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
I know its not the right way- but can't we at least greasemonkey our way out of this? I mean, we do need to pay. And currently i do so via the phone because of the site sucks. On 4/16/10, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 19:44 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> The Bituah Leumi site does not work in Firefox: >> https://b2b.btl.gov.il/b2b/ >> >> There is a phone number on that page. Call them next week! Let them >> know that not the whole world uses Windows! >> >> >> While you are at it, if you can figure out to whom to complain about >> this site, then let me know: >> https://www.shaam.gov.il/Shaam_internet/ >> >> Thanks! >> > > We're long past the talking stage. > IMHO, we (as in non-Window-using-community) need the following: > - Someone with (a lot? of) free time to galvanize the efforts. > - A hub. (Site, facebook, linked-in, etc) > - Money. (I'm willing to pledge 1K nis for the effort) > - A good attorney that handles supreme court cases. > > In theory, (and sadly enough, without the man power to push it forward, > it'll remain a theory) the following steps should be taken: > > - Setup a site that will be used as a hub to collect funds and > volunteers. > - Locate a good attorney. > - Select several high profile targets (gov.il comes to mind) and sue > them for say, price of Windows * 5% of all computers in IL. This should > get their attention. > - Speaking of attention, make a lot of noise about it in the press. News > papers usually dig under-dog-vs-government type of wars. > > I'd do it myself, but I'm over-worked as it is :( > > - Gilboa > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Nexus One
On 12/04/2010 13:39, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: > How may list list subscribers use Nexus One? > I do :) > What are your impressions? > I absolutely love it. I had a G1 before, and am a big fan of Android. That in itself was a great upgrade, finally having the processor power and RAM to do what I really wanted. > Does it worth to purchase? > IMHO, definitely. It's a no brainer if you're a techie. It was amazing feeling my first time to get a terminal on the phone and move around just like regular linux, write shell scripts, etc. But even if you aren't, it's a great phone. I have a friend who doesn't know computers at all, and he got it and loves it (although I had to set up the Hebrew, custom ROM, etc for him). There are only three really annoying bugs that I can think of, but they really do happen infrequently and new firmwares (community developed) come out frequently. The Nexus One is arguable the ideal phone for developers and technically orientated people. This is the phone to get if you want to install a regularly developed custom firmware, have the latest Android updates (before they make it to a proper release, which can take a very long time as was the case with e.g. the Motorola Droid), and otherwise screw around with your phone. However, for someone who isn't interested in all these things, there are probably better options: The Samsung Galaxy (which has an AMAZING super amoled screen) and the EVO (which has wimax, but we don't have that here yet, and I could guess we'll get hsdpa+ instead; correct me if I'm wrong). These have UI improvements from the manufacturers with great features... but will get the latest Android updates slower, have less active communities around them, and may be harder to root, etc. But in short, as a technical user, nothing I've ever purchased has ever made me as happy :) > Where it worth to purchase? > You can buy in Israel for about NIS 3500. You can order directly from Google via mustop.co.il, and you'll end up paying about NIS 2800 I think. Even better is if you have someone coming back from the US. Tax on phones is about 34%, so you could get away with say NIS 2200... big save! Note if you order from Google you get a custom engraving on the back of the phone FOR FREE. I recommend getting the Desktop Dock too. 1) Easy charging (contact points you rest the phone on, no need to jiggle a micro usb in there) 2) Clock mode comes on with a cute bed-side clock :) 3) It has an aux-out you can connect to your hi-fi, connected to the phone via bluetooth a2dp. Ok since no one else has answered yet I'll go all out here. Other recommended accessories: 1) If you want to mount it in your car, look at the stuff at www.proclipusa.com (or wait for Google's). 2) You can get higher mAh batteries here http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4025.htm 3) Get a screen protector. For navigation in Israel, check out www.waze.co.il For firmware, www.cyanogenmod.com (comes with needed fonts for Hebrew). Hebrew input, search anysoftkeyboard in the market, or slideit hebrew (quite nice, google it). There is a Hebrew android forum over at www.iandroid.co.il Right, now we're on the same page! Enjoy :) -- Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 / / ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Browser compatability, was: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
I think ultimately what Gilboa is suggesting (below) is the way to go (especially with government agencies and subsidaries); however in the meantime I'd like to suggest something in the middle. This is where I think we've gone wrong until now and how to change it: 1) Problem: We usually complain to tech support, who are usually incompetent. If they forward our complaints on to anyone, it will be to the site developers, who use and know nothing but IE, and have no motivation to do otherwise. Solution: We must target the company directors, with strong arguments (below) that will convince them to take action, and ORDER the developers to get their act together (pay them, make them uphold their contract, or change companies). 2) Problem: Sometime we try get support for Linux, which is harder. Solution: All we need is support for W3C, or at least non-IE specific code. 3) Problem: We accept the perception that we are a minority. Solution: We're not! As of March 2010, IE has only a 52% market share!! [1] And here lies our compelling arguments: a) If they're targeting people outside of Israel (including investors!), they're excluding 900 million people :) [2] b) They're missing out on mobile phones, netbooks, tablets, tvs, etc which are all emerging markets. c) If they're only targetting Israel (where IE has higher use) they are still falling behind their competitors. d) Basically, the whole world (even Israel) is moving forwards, and they're stuck in the past, losing current customers and not in a position to attract new ones. Analogies are great too. Here's one I just thought of now. "It's like telling your customers they can only do business with you if they call you from a Nokia cell phone" That's something anyone can understand. Nokia was dominant. They're not anymore. Everyone knows of the Iphone, Blackberry, etc and you can remind them that none of these devices can access his/her website. So, do they really not care that their entire business image (and business potential) is affected simply because they have chosen to overpay incompetent site developers? etc, etc. Comments welcome :) References: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers [2] http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm Gadi On 16/04/2010 14:06, Gilboa Davara wrote: > We're long past the talking stage. > IMHO, we (as in non-Window-using-community) need the following: > - Someone with (a lot? of) free time to galvanize the efforts. > - A hub. (Site, facebook, linked-in, etc) > - Money. (I'm willing to pledge 1K nis for the effort) > - A good attorney that handles supreme court cases. > > In theory, (and sadly enough, without the man power to push it forward, > it'll remain a theory) the following steps should be taken: > > - Setup a site that will be used as a hub to collect funds and > volunteers. > - Locate a good attorney. > - Select several high profile targets (gov.il comes to mind) and sue > them for say, price of Windows * 5% of all computers in IL. This should > get their attention. > - Speaking of attention, make a lot of noise about it in the press. News > papers usually dig under-dog-vs-government type of wars. > > I'd do it myself, but I'm over-worked as it is :( > > - Gilboa > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > -- Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 / / ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Browser compatability, was: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
2010/4/17 Gadi Cohen : > I think ultimately what Gilboa is suggesting (below) is the way to go > (especially with government agencies and subsidaries); however in the > meantime I'd like to suggest something in the middle. This is where I think > we've gone wrong until now and how to change it: > > 1) Problem: We usually complain to tech support, who are usually > incompetent. If they forward our complaints on to anyone, it will be to the > site developers, who use and know nothing but IE, and have no motivation to > do otherwise. > > Solution: We must target the company directors, with strong arguments > (below) that will convince them to take action, and ORDER the developers to > get their act together (pay them, make them uphold their contract, or change > companies). > > 2) Problem: Sometime we try get support for Linux, which is harder. > Solution: All we need is support for W3C, or at least non-IE specific code. > > 3) Problem: We accept the perception that we are a minority. > Solution: We're not! As of March 2010, IE has only a 52% market share!! > [1] > > And here lies our compelling arguments: > > a) If they're targeting people outside of Israel (including investors!), > they're excluding 900 million people :) [2] > b) They're missing out on mobile phones, netbooks, tablets, tvs, etc which > are all emerging markets. > c) If they're only targetting Israel (where IE has higher use) they are > still falling behind their competitors. > d) Basically, the whole world (even Israel) is moving forwards, and they're > stuck in the past, losing current customers and not in a position to attract > new ones. > > Analogies are great too. Here's one I just thought of now. > > "It's like telling your customers they can only do business with you if they > call you from a Nokia cell phone" > > That's something anyone can understand. Nokia was dominant. They're not > anymore. Everyone knows of the Iphone, Blackberry, etc and you can remind > them that none of these devices can access his/her website. > > So, do they really not care that their entire business image (and business > potential) is affected simply because they have chosen to overpay > incompetent site developers? > > etc, etc. > > Comments welcome :) > > References: > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers > [2] http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm > > Gadi Here here to that!! That's what I've been telling at each and every such argument for the last few years - "Linux" and "none-Windows" is not a strong enough case in the Israeli context. But mobile phones, Mac's disabled people (standard sites allowing them to use standard accessbility enhancements) are much larger target audiences and maybe the law requires to address them (e.g. disabled people). About directors - another argument to reach them is that any customer picking up the phone or visiting their office instead of self-serving using their site costs them the price of having an employee/contractor serving that customer (and customer dissatisfaction), which over time is much higher than the investment in a proper web site. --Amos (PS It's funny how in the equivalent Australian government agencies of Bituach Leumi, Mas Hachnasa, Misrad Rishui etc., the people who use their service are referred to as "customers". I don't remember seeing Bituach Leumi referring to anyone as "Lakoach" :). > > On 16/04/2010 14:06, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > We're long past the talking stage. > > IMHO, we (as in non-Window-using-community) need the following: > - Someone with (a lot? of) free time to galvanize the efforts. > - A hub. (Site, facebook, linked-in, etc) > - Money. (I'm willing to pledge 1K nis for the effort) > - A good attorney that handles supreme court cases. > > In theory, (and sadly enough, without the man power to push it forward, > it'll remain a theory) the following steps should be taken: > > - Setup a site that will be used as a hub to collect funds and > volunteers. > - Locate a good attorney. > - Select several high profile targets (gov.il comes to mind) and sue > them for say, price of Windows * 5% of all computers in IL. This should > get their attention. > - Speaking of attention, make a lot of noise about it in the press. News > papers usually dig under-dog-vs-government type of wars. > > I'd do it myself, but I'm over-worked as it is :( > > - Gilboa > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > -- > > Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net > Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast > KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.hu
Re: Browser compatability, was: Bituah Leumi site: call them!
At 00:46:13 on Saturday Saturday 17 April 2010, Amos Shapira wrote: > 2010/4/17 Gadi Cohen : > > I think ultimately what Gilboa is suggesting (below) is the way to go > > (especially with government agencies and subsidaries); however in the > > meantime I'd like to suggest something in the middle. This is where > > I think we've gone wrong until now and how to change it: > > > > 1) Problem: We usually complain to tech support, who are usually > > incompetent. If they forward our complaints on to anyone, it will be > > to the site developers, who use and know nothing but IE, and have no > > motivation to do otherwise. > > > > Solution: We must target the company directors, with strong > > arguments (below) that will convince them to take action, and ORDER > > the developers to get their act together (pay them, make them uphold > > their contract, or change companies). > > > > 2) Problem: Sometime we try get support for Linux, which is harder. > > Solution: All we need is support for W3C, or at least non-IE specific > > code. > > > > 3) Problem: We accept the perception that we are a minority. > > Solution: We're not! As of March 2010, IE has only a 52% market > > share!! [1] > > > > And here lies our compelling arguments: > > > > a) If they're targeting people outside of Israel (including > > investors!), they're excluding 900 million people :) [2] > > b) They're missing out on mobile phones, netbooks, tablets, tvs, etc > > which are all emerging markets. > > c) If they're only targetting Israel (where IE has higher use) they > > are still falling behind their competitors. > > d) Basically, the whole world (even Israel) is moving forwards, and > > they're stuck in the past, losing current customers and not in a > > position to attract new ones. > > > > Analogies are great too. Here's one I just thought of now. > > > > "It's like telling your customers they can only do business with you > > if they call you from a Nokia cell phone" > > > > That's something anyone can understand. Nokia was dominant. They're > > not anymore. Everyone knows of the Iphone, Blackberry, etc and you > > can remind them that none of these devices can access his/her > > website. > > > > So, do they really not care that their entire business image (and > > business potential) is affected simply because they have chosen to > > overpay incompetent site developers? > > > > etc, etc. > > > > Comments welcome :) > > > > References: > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers > > [2] http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm > > > > Gadi > > Here here to that!! > > That's what I've been telling at each and every such argument for the > last few years - "Linux" and "none-Windows" is not a strong enough > case in the Israeli context. But mobile phones, Mac's disabled people > (standard sites allowing them to use standard accessbility > enhancements) are much larger target audiences and maybe the law > requires to address them (e.g. disabled people). > > About directors - another argument to reach them is that any customer > picking up the phone or visiting their office instead of self-serving > using their site costs them the price of having an employee/contractor > serving that customer (and customer dissatisfaction), which over time > is much higher than the investment in a proper web site. > > --Amos > > (PS It's funny how in the equivalent Australian government agencies of > Bituach Leumi, Mas Hachnasa, Misrad Rishui etc., the people who use > their service are referred to as "customers". I don't remember seeing > Bituach Leumi referring to anyone as "Lakoach" :). Of course not. There is not a government employee in Israel that would tolerate being referred to as a "public servant". > > On 16/04/2010 14:06, Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > We're long past the talking stage. > > > > IMHO, we (as in non-Window-using-community) need the following: > > - Someone with (a lot? of) free time to galvanize the efforts. > > - A hub. (Site, facebook, linked-in, etc) > > - Money. (I'm willing to pledge 1K nis for the effort) > > - A good attorney that handles supreme court cases. > > > > In theory, (and sadly enough, without the man power to push it > > forward, it'll remain a theory) the following steps should be taken: > > > > - Setup a site that will be used as a hub to collect funds and > > volunteers. > > - Locate a good attorney. > > - Select several high profile targets (gov.il comes to mind) and sue > > them for say, price of Windows * 5% of all computers in IL. This > > should get their attention. > > - Speaking of attention, make a lot of noise about it in the press. > > News papers usually dig under-dog-vs-government type of wars. > > > > I'd do it myself, but I'm over-worked as it is :( > > > > - Gilboa > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Gadi C
Re: Nexus One
Thanks very much for the review Gadi! Now, can anyone compare it with the Nokia N900? BTW - I heard very warm recommendation for shipito.com for buying from the US. Cheers, Amos On 4/17/10, Gadi Cohen wrote: > On 12/04/2010 13:39, Constantine Shulyupin wrote: >> How may list list subscribers use Nexus One? >> > I do :) >> What are your impressions? >> > I absolutely love it. I had a G1 before, and am a big fan of Android. > That in itself was a great upgrade, finally having the processor power > and RAM to do what I really wanted. >> Does it worth to purchase? >> > IMHO, definitely. It's a no brainer if you're a techie. It was amazing > feeling my first time to get a terminal on the phone and move around > just like regular linux, write shell scripts, etc. But even if you > aren't, it's a great phone. I have a friend who doesn't know computers > at all, and he got it and loves it (although I had to set up the Hebrew, > custom ROM, etc for him). There are only three really annoying bugs > that I can think of, but they really do happen infrequently and new > firmwares (community developed) come out frequently. > > The Nexus One is arguable the ideal phone for developers and technically > orientated people. This is the phone to get if you want to install a > regularly developed custom firmware, have the latest Android updates > (before they make it to a proper release, which can take a very long > time as was the case with e.g. the Motorola Droid), and otherwise screw > around with your phone. > > However, for someone who isn't interested in all these things, there are > probably better options: The Samsung Galaxy (which has an AMAZING super > amoled screen) and the EVO (which has wimax, but we don't have that here > yet, and I could guess we'll get hsdpa+ instead; correct me if I'm > wrong). These have UI improvements from the manufacturers with great > features... but will get the latest Android updates slower, have less > active communities around them, and may be harder to root, etc. > > But in short, as a technical user, nothing I've ever purchased has ever > made me as happy :) >> Where it worth to purchase? >> > > You can buy in Israel for about NIS 3500. > > You can order directly from Google via mustop.co.il, and you'll end up > paying about NIS 2800 I think. > > Even better is if you have someone coming back from the US. Tax on > phones is about 34%, so you could get away with say NIS 2200... big save! > > Note if you order from Google you get a custom engraving on the back of > the phone FOR FREE. > > I recommend getting the Desktop Dock too. > 1) Easy charging (contact points you rest the phone on, no need to > jiggle a micro usb in there) > 2) Clock mode comes on with a cute bed-side clock :) > 3) It has an aux-out you can connect to your hi-fi, connected to the > phone via bluetooth a2dp. > > Ok since no one else has answered yet I'll go all out here. > > Other recommended accessories: > 1) If you want to mount it in your car, look at the stuff at > www.proclipusa.com (or wait for Google's). > 2) You can get higher mAh batteries here > http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4025.htm > 3) Get a screen protector. > > For navigation in Israel, check out www.waze.co.il > > For firmware, www.cyanogenmod.com (comes with needed fonts for Hebrew). > > Hebrew input, search anysoftkeyboard in the market, or slideit hebrew > (quite nice, google it). > > There is a Hebrew android forum over at www.iandroid.co.il > > Right, now we're on the same page! > Enjoy :) > > -- > > Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net > Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast > KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 > > / / > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Nexus One
Gadi Cohen wrote: However, for someone who isn't interested in all these things, there are probably better options: The Samsung Galaxy ... These have UI improvements from the manufacturers with great features... I have only looked at the Galaxy when it first came out. At that time, I did not spot ANY differences between it and the vanilla Android. What improvements does it contain? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Nexus One vs Samsung Galaxy S
On 17/04/2010 08:53, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > >> These have UI improvements from the manufacturers with great >> features... > I have only looked at the Galaxy when it first came out. At that time, > I did not spot ANY differences between it and the vanilla Android. > What improvements does it contain? Ok, my bad... I was writing from memory and didn't realize there were two different similar sounding phones: Old phone: Samsung i7500 Galaxy aka "Samsung Galaxy" New phone: Samsung i9000 Galaxy S aka "Samsung Galaxy S" I was actually talking about the latter. Which will only be released in the summer, I think. For that reason I haven't seen it myself of course, but in terms of UI you can see e.g. a much nicer main menu :) in the 2nd video on this link: http://androidandme.com/2010/03/phones/samsung-galaxy-s-hands-on-wrap-up/ (I should note that the HTC Evo 4G includes HTC's Sense UI, which looks fantastic, plenty videos of this around. You can find it ported to the Nexus One but then of course you're limited to updates to that ROM... some Nexus One features might not work). As for hardware, the highlights here (also from the link above): 1) Super AMOLED screen. Looks amazing, brighter, better contrast, uses less power. See video. 2) Possibly the fastest processor on the market, but it's debatable. It's also 1Gz like the N1 but can draw triangles 3 times a fast. http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/samsung-galaxy-s-hummingbird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/ 3) 8 or 16GB internal RAM. Gadi -- Gadi Cohen aka Kinslayer www.wastelands.net Freelance admin/coding/design HABONIM DROR linux/fantasy enthusiast KeyID 0x93F26EF5: 256A 1FC7 AA2B 6A8F 1D9B 6A5A 4403 F34B 93F2 6EF5 / / ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Nexus One vs Samsung Galaxy S
Gadi Cohen wrote: (I should note that the HTC Evo 4G includes HTC's Sense UI, which looks fantastic, plenty videos of this around. You can find it ported to the Nexus One but then of course you're limited to updates to that ROM... some Nexus One features might not work). I must admit that I found Sense to be underwhelming. On my phone, I'm running the plain Launcher (now rather old - no time to mess with Android right now :-( ). Sense will probably be great for people who use facebook and twitter a lot, as it has very tight integration with these services. As I don't, I don't find the appeal. HTC's decision to make Sense plugins distinct from Android Launcher plugins is, in my view, a lame attempt to prevent people from taking the Sense plugins, and holds no technological merit. The interface is, indeed, nice, but it is implemented as a wrapper around Android, rather than go into Android and change it. As a result, the second you run ANY non-Sense application (which is, let's face it, most of them), the interface reverts to POA (Plain Old Android). I can't escape the feeling that Sense was developed for WinMo, to override Window's horrible non-touch oriented interface, and was ported to Android for the sake of uniformity. That might also explain the different plugins interface. Inside Android, at least, it feels like a shallow casing around the core system, and I prefer the uniformity of having a standard interface throughout the system. 1) Super AMOLED screen. Looks amazing, brighter, better contrast, uses less power. See video. Is it reflective? Usually, the brighter colors are due to a reflective surface, which makes it more difficult to work with. 2) Possibly the fastest processor on the market, but it's debatable. It's also 1Gz like the N1 but can draw triangles 3 times a fast. http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/samsung-galaxy-s-hummingbird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/ So I have to ask about battery time and weight. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
