Re: Hebrew FAQ
On Monday 23 March 2009, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Monday, 23 בMarch 2009, Rami Rosen wrote:
> > Then, in order to make this "USA" an english-hebrew toggle:
> >
> > Right click on the USA.
> > Go to "Keyboard prefernces".
> > Go to layouts
> > Choose "add".
> > Select "Israel"
> >
> > That's it. Left click on "USA" will change it to Isr and the language to
> > Hebrew, clicking again will set it to english back.
>
> While at this dialog, you may want to adjust few more settings:
> * Choose the layout "variant" as "lyx" -- this enables you
>sane input of diacritics ("nikud").
> * Choose what keyboard modifier combination toggles the language
>(so you don't need the mouse). Personally I use both-shift-keys
>but many people choose Left-Alt-Shift to make it work like Windows.
> * Choose an optional LED. Most people choose "scroll lock" which is
>not needed nowdays. It helps see if you are in the default language
>or not.
All set up and working !
Thanks !
>
> [In the KDE dialog that Oleg mentioned you can find the same
> options in similar positions]
>
> Cheers,
--
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and the laborers are lazy, and the reward |
is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com
impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135
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Re: Hebrew FAQ
Aharon Schkolnik writes: > Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on startup, generates the necessary parameters, and "just works". I have 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has an xorg.conf. You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind, and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew FAQ
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > Aharon Schkolnik writes: > > Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, > > Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on > startup, generates the necessary parameters, and "just works". I have > 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has > an xorg.conf. Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past. > > You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind, > and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need. I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working. -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
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Re: Hebrew FAQ
Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: >> Aharon Schkolnik writes: >>> Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, >> Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on >> startup, generates the necessary parameters, and "just works". I have >> 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has >> an xorg.conf. > > Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X level, > you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past. > Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for that, without the need for xorg.conf. Here's my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi: hal-setup-keymap xorg keyboard evdev us,il ,lyx grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle >> You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind, >> and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need. > > I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working. Cheers -- Meir Kriheli ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew FAQ
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Meir Kriheli wrote: > Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > >> Aharon Schkolnik writes: > >>> Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, > >> > >> Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on > >> startup, generates the necessary parameters, and "just works". I have > >> 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has > >> an xorg.conf. > > > > Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X > > level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past. > > Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for > that, without the need for xorg.conf. Very interesting ! How did you generate fdi file ? > Here's my > /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi: > > > > > >type="strlist">hal-setup-keymap > > > > xorg > > > keyboard > string="Linux"> > evdev > > > us,il > ,lyx >type="string">grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle > > > > > >> You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind, > >> and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need. > > > > I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working. > > Cheers > -- > Meir Kriheli -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
Hi. I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: אבגד הוז Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. Any ideas ? TIA. -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew FAQ
Aharon Schkolnik writes: > Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the > X level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the > past. I'll deny having any relevant expertise, but the KDE "Keyboard Layouts" screen that you say you used successfully also shows you the correct setxkbmap(1) command line that I suppose you can put into one of the appropriate init/rc files (~/.xinitrc or whatever it is called nowadays). -- Oleg Goldshmidt | p...@goldshmidt.org ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > Hi. > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > אבגד > הוז > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may # yum install bidiv and $ bidiv yourtext | less > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > Any ideas ? > > TIA. > > -- > The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik > and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | > is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com > impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 > > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Dan Kenigsberghttp://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~dankenICQ 162180901 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > > > אבגד > > הוז > > > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). > > No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may > > # yum install bidiv > > and > > $ bidiv yourtext | less I'm still looking for help with kmail, but I'll go ahead and install bidiv. Thanks for the tip. > > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > > > Any ideas ? > > > > TIA. > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in KDE4. On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > Hi. > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > אבגד > הוז > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > Any ideas ? > > TIA. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > automatic text direction detection as you see in KDE3 is not implemented in > KDE4. Very sad ! It is very annoying when things get worse instead of better in new versions, but I guess there are a lot of new good things. > > On Tuesday 24 March 2009 13:43:47 Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > > > אבגד > > הוז > > > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). > > > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > > > Any ideas ? > > > > TIA. > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew FAQ
Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Meir Kriheli wrote: >> Aharon Schkolnik wrote: >>> On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: Aharon Schkolnik writes: > Actually, I meant to ask about setting up Hebrew using xorg.conf, Modern systems don't have xorg.conf - Xorg probes the system on startup, generates the necessary parameters, and "just works". I have 2 Fedora 10 computers with different video cards, etc. - neither has an xorg.conf. >>> Yes, you're right, but if you want to set up Hebrew keyboard at the X >>> level, you need a xorg.conf file. That's how I have done it in the past. >> Not if you're using Xorg's input hotplugging, hal is responsible for >> that, without the need for xorg.conf. > > Very interesting ! > How did you generate fdi file ? > You should get a template with hal which should be copied to /etc/hal/fdi/policy and customized. On ArchLinux and Debian the template location is /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi . More templates are located under /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/ in case you'll need to customize other input devices (e.g: synaptics). >> Here's my >> /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi: >> >> >> >> >> >> > type="strlist">hal-setup-keymap >> >> >> >> xorg >> >> >> keyboard >> > string="Linux"> >> evdev >> >> >> us,il >> ,lyx >> > type="string">grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle >> >> >> >> You can generate the file using Xorg --configure or sth of the kind, and if you have it Xorg will use it. I did not feel the need. >>> I did that, but wasn't able to get the Hebrew keyboard stuff working. Cheers -- Meir Kriheli ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
Hi Dan, WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget? On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > > > אבגד > > הוז > > > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). > > No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may > > # yum install bidiv > > and > > $ bidiv yourtext | less > > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > > > Any ideas ? > > > > TIA. > > > > -- > > The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik > > and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | > > is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com > > impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 > > > > > > ___ > > Linux-il mailing list > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > Hi Dan, > > WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the > *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget? That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail problem. > > On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:04:06 Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:43:47PM +0200, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > I have just got Hebrew input working under Fedora 10. > > > Now I see that Hebrew is aligned on the left margin as follows: > > > > > > אבגד > > > הוז > > > > > > Specifically, I need it to work with kmail (used to send this message). > > > > No idea about kmail, but for text viewing you may > > > > # yum install bidiv > > > > and > > > > $ bidiv yourtext | less > > > > > Under Fedora 8 I had Hebrew being aligned on the right margin. > > > > > > Any ideas ? > > > > > > TIA. > > > > > > -- > > > The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik > > > and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | > > > is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com > > > impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Linux-il mailing list > > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- The day is short, and the work is great,| Aharon Schkolnik and the laborers are lazy, and the reward | is great, and the Master of the house is| aschkol...@gmail.com impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2| 054 3344135 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: Hebrew Text Alignment Under Fedora 10
With all due respect to dan (and I really do!), what he sais was BS, and nothing to do with your problem. Now his answer is tagged and in the future a nn00b will read it and boom! he is doing stupid things. Execute "qtconfig" (in a shell window, or the plasma-krunner-control-f2-thingie). Move to the "Interface" tab, choose "Enhanced support for languages written right-to-left" and restart the X server (alt+control+backspace). Now in kmail you can choose the display direction (only display!) by pressing control+shift like on windows. On Tuesday 24 March 2009 19:42:35 Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > > Hi Dan, > > > > WTF are you confusing this guy? How the hell would bidiv help him set the > > *direction* of the text in side KMail's QTextWidget? > > That's OK, I wasn't confused. I didn't think bidiv would help with my kmail > problem. > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
Hello, Please help me to stay with Linux and not go back to Windows... I had stopped using windows about two years ago; though I have a dual boot , I almost did not boot into windows in the recent two years. I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. But: now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and converted it to png. The result is reasonable. However,... I need to draw some arrows in an angle and I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that the text should not be vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? To be more specific, what I need to do as something like what is depicted here (and can be done with visio): http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21 please look at figure 3.44 I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and not under some virtual machine emulating windows and not under wine. Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be in *.png. Rgs, DanS ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
Well, if all you want to do is draw some polygons with some text you can e.g. use Inkscape. If you feel like scripting your drawing you can easily do it with e.g. PyCairo (or lots of other scripting language bindings to libcairo). Or use Asymptote if that suits your application better. If you want the diagram capabilities of dia you may export dia into one of several formats that you may read into Inkscape to do the final polishing. Regards, Dov See: http://www.inkscape.org http://cairographics.org/pycairo/ http://asymptote.sourceforge.net/ 2009/3/24 Dan Shimshoni > Hello, > Please help me to stay with Linux and not > go back to Windows... > I had stopped using windows about two years ago; > though I have a dual boot , I almost did not > boot into windows in the recent two years. > I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything > that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. > But: > now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried > with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and > converted it to png. The result is reasonable. > However,... > I need to draw some arrows in an angle and > I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that > the text should not be > vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. > > Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? > > To be more specific, what I need to do as something > like what is depicted here (and can be done with > visio): > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21 > > please look at figure 3.44 > > I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and > not under some virtual machine > emulating windows and not under wine. > > Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. > > I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be > in *.png. > > Rgs, > DanS > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?
I just noticed this info in my modem's interface: Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes Data Received 2111269904 bytes Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware infection. Can anybody shed some insight? Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
[Telux] Next Meeting: "Introduction to Perl 6 - Part II" on 05-April-2009
Hi all! The Tel Aviv Open Source Club will host the second part of a series of talks by Gabor Szabo ( http://www.szabgab.com/ ) about "Introduction to Perl 6" - on 05-April-2009. The meeting will take place at Tel Aviv University, at the Schreiber Maths&CS building, room 008 on 18:30. So mark your calendars. For more information can be found at: * http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/ * http://wiki.osdc.org.il/index.php/Tel_Aviv_Meeting_on_05_April_2009 Attendance is free and everyone are welcome. With any other problems, feel free to contact me: http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/ Abstract: - Introduction to Perl 6. A series of presentations on learning and using Perl 6 from the ground up to the special features. Many would think that Perl 6 is just a new version of Perl and that it might only be interesting for Perl programmers. However, Perl 6 is in fact a compiled language running on a virtual machine that embraces many new concepts not found in most programming languages. The presentations will be equally interesting for Perl, Java and C# programmers. During the series of talks we will start by learning the basics of the language and will get to various high level concepts. For now we plan 2 sessions but if we need more time we'll schedule more meetings. Note After the talk we go to the café at the main entrance where we can continue the discussion. If people bring portable computers, we can get the off the ground on the spot. VirtualBox images will be provided with everything that is needed for playing with Perl 6 set up inside. So you may opt to bring a computer with VirtualBox installed. -- We are always looking for presentations on interesting topics. If you have an interesting idea for a talk, feel free to contact us and we'll co-ordinate a date. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ I'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to achieve? mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is the last thing standing in my way! ;) ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
> I need to draw some arrows in an angle and > I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that > the text should not be > vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. > > Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? xfig can do arrows and text at arbitrary angles, and will output to many formats (including png) It is great for this sort of thing. Jason -- Jason Friedman Postdoctoral researcher Motor Control and Biomechanics laboratories Department of Kinesiology Pennsylvania State University Phone: +1-814-863-0354 email: jason.fried...@psu.edu web: http://www.personal.psu.edu/jxf35 ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: 2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: I just noticed this info in my modem's interface: Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes Data Received 2111269904 bytes Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware infection. Can anybody shed some insight? Maybe the counters wrap at 4GB? -- Matan. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
Have you looked at Inkscape? It's a rather incredible vector drawing program. I found it pretty easy to pick up, and I have no drawing program experience. You have great control over every single parameter, and there is a great online tutorial. Dan Shimshoni wrote: Hello, Please help me to stay with Linux and not go back to Windows... I had stopped using windows about two years ago; though I have a dual boot , I almost did not boot into windows in the recent two years. I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. But: now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and converted it to png. The result is reasonable. However,... I need to draw some arrows in an angle and I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that the text should not be vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? To be more specific, what I need to do as something like what is depicted here (and can be done with visio): http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21 please look at figure 3.44 I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and not under some virtual machine emulating windows and not under wine. Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be in *.png. Rgs, DanS ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: 2:1 Down:Up internet traffic ratio?
Dotan Cohen wrote: I just noticed this info in my modem's interface: Data Transmitted1285141280 bytes Data Received 2111269904 bytes Could it really be that normal internet browsing and emailing produces only a 2:1 downloaded:uploaded ratio? I figure with youtube and all the images on websites that the ratio would be much higher. We do not do any filesharing or other p2p activities. And the network consists of two linux machines, so I doubt that there may be a malware infection. Can anybody shed some insight? Two things I can think of: 1) Is your modem also your hub/switch? perhaps it is also aggregating internal network traffic in those numbers somehow? 2) Both numbers are between 30 and 31 bits in magnitude, which means they might just be the result of some weird overflow or scaling law due to using a 32-bit counter. If you can, reset the counters before you go to sleep; if you don't have a torrent or mule running, counters in the morning should be very low. Then work for a day and then check your counters again. ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
I smell SVG... ;-) http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics All you need is a text editor, a browser (1) and time to learn. (1) IE6 does not count as a browser On Tuesday 24 March 2009 22:42:27 Dan Shimshoni wrote: > Hello, > Please help me to stay with Linux and not > go back to Windows... > I had stopped using windows about two years ago; > though I have a dual boot , I almost did not > boot into windows in the recent two years. > I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything > that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. > But: > now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried > with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and > converted it to png. The result is reasonable. > However,... > I need to draw some arrows in an angle and > I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that > the text should not be > vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. > > Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? > > To be more specific, what I need to do as something > like what is depicted here (and can be done with > visio): > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21 > > please look at figure 3.44 > > I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and > not under some virtual machine > emulating windows and not under wine. > > Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. > > I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be > in *.png. > > Rgs, > DanS > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
Hi, On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 22:42, Dan Shimshoni wrote: > I need to draw some arrows in an angle and I need to add some text > **parallel** to these lines. This means that the text should not be vertical > or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. Like in the attached .ODG and exported .PNG files? -- Arie text_angles.odg Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.graphics <>___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help
I read with great interest the plea for help to remain in Linux instead of returning to Windows. One of the major concerns I have on this issue is the use of programmes like Wine and other emulators. If using these programmes I feel in some way that it is a form of cheating on oneself. Are we in Linux or are we in Windows? When do we actually cross the line? Even with all the tweaking that I may have to do to get a stubborn programme to work with Linux, I like using it and feel comfortable using it. Regarding Office programmes, yes there are more options in the Microsoft Office version, but as a person who has learnt Technical Writing, I would say that most people do not use even half of these options; they can easily get away with using Open Office. Likewise with other programmes that may need some tweaking. Sometimes I have to use work arounds to get the job done - don't think that this isn't the case with Windows either. If someone is happy with Linux then it's for him. Moshe --- On Wed, 25/3/09, Michael Shiloh wrote: From: Michael Shiloh Subject: Re: I don't want to do it under Windows ; please help To: "Dan Shimshoni" Cc: "linux-il" Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2009, 12:29 AM Have you looked at Inkscape? It's a rather incredible vector drawing program. I found it pretty easy to pick up, and I have no drawing program experience. You have great control over every single parameter, and there is a great online tutorial. Dan Shimshoni wrote: > Hello, > Please help me to stay with Linux and not > go back to Windows... > I had stopped using windows about two years ago; > though I have a dual boot , I almost did not > boot into windows in the recent two years. > I am very satisfied with Linux. Everything > that I had in Windows I could get in Linux. > But: > now, I had to prepare some diagrams. I tried > with the "dia" tool. I created a diagram and > converted it to png. The result is reasonable. > However,... > I need to draw some arrows in an angle and > I need to add some text **parallel** to these lines. This means that > the text should not be > vertical or horizontal, but in an anlge (30 or 45). > And it seems that this is **not** possible in dia. > > Does any one know a tool with which it can be done? > > To be more specific, what I need to do as something > like what is depicted here (and can be done with > visio): > http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1087425&seqNum=21 > > please look at figure 3.44 > > I really do **not** want to use visio for it; not unbder windows and > not under some virtual machine > emulating windows and not under wine. > > Any ideas ? Is there such a tool in Linux. > > I want to stress that the final diagrams shold be > in *.png. > > Rgs, > DanS > > ___ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il ___ Linux-il mailing list Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
