Re: which Distro does your company use ?

2004-09-09 Thread Karasik, Vitaly
1) we use RHEL
2) here http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3313211 you can
see Netcraft's report analyze for webservers.


Vitaly Karasik, RHCE 
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when a linux station has 2 net interfaces

2004-09-09 Thread haim [howard] roman
The addresses used below are fictictious.  But we really have a class
B address that is subnetted into class C subnets.

My station's main IP is 130.130.1.66 (subnet 1).  That interface is always up.

Sometimes, I bring up the 2nd interface at 130.130.2.66 (subnet 2).  I
also create routing table entries so packets to some subnets go via
the subnet 2 interface.  

I suspect that when that happens, sometimes the packet goes out the
subnet 2 interface, but the source address in the IP packet is the
subnet 1 address.

Any suggestions for how to check that?  Someone suggested to me
tcpdump.  Is there a better and/or easier way?

More importantly, if I'm correct, how do I change it?  I running 

Distribution: Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS release 3 
  (Taroon Update 2)

Linux Kernel: 2.4.21-15.EL #1

Thanks,
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Re: when a linux station has 2 net interfaces

2004-09-09 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 09:55:40AM +0300, haim [howard] roman wrote:
> The addresses used below are fictictious.  But we really have a class
> B address that is subnetted into class C subnets.
> 
> My station's main IP is 130.130.1.66 (subnet 1).  That interface is always up.
> 
> Sometimes, I bring up the 2nd interface at 130.130.2.66 (subnet 2).  I
> also create routing table entries so packets to some subnets go via
> the subnet 2 interface.  
> 
> I suspect that when that happens, sometimes the packet goes out the
> subnet 2 interface, but the source address in the IP packet is the
> subnet 1 address.
> 
> Any suggestions for how to check that?  Someone suggested to me
> tcpdump.  Is there a better and/or easier way?

I do not know, but tcpdump is quite easy. You can use ethereal, which
is graphical and maybe more comfortable.

> 
> More importantly, if I'm correct, how do I change it?  I running 
> 
> Distribution: Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS release 3 
>   (Taroon Update 2)
> 
> Linux Kernel: 2.4.21-15.EL #1

You need to change this per application, as far as I know. E.g. the
option '-b' in openssh.
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Re: Quickcam 4000 pro

2004-09-09 Thread Gad Abraham
Cyril Scetbon wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to get feedback about using this webcam under linux.
Which soft was used ? Have you succeeded in communicating with windows 
users? (gnomemeeting, others ?)
In using the integrated micro (feedback from others webcam are welcomed) ?

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The camera itself is great - good quality video, integrated mic (which 
is quite sensitive).

Under Linux - not so great. It has been theoretically supported* but to 
get decent quality (e.g. more than 5 FPS) you need to recompile your 
kernel and add decompressor support for it.
I tried this on Debian and gave up eventually, so I just use it on 
Windows. Re-compiling is more than I'm willing to do just for a webcam.

So in short - excellent camera, I'd buy it even if it worked only on 
Windows, but don't reformat that Windows partition quite yet.

Cheers,
Gad
* There has been an issue lately with some support for Philips chipsets 
being dropped, it was discussed here recently.

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RE: Quickcam 4000 pro

2004-09-09 Thread rami rosen
Hello,
I had tried the logitech 4000 pro on Linux with the pwc and pwcx  driver.
You get good results for a CIF image (352x288).
The quality is much higher comparing to logitech quickcam.
I did not tried it against NetMeeting.
The SW I tried was mainly gnomemeeting.
Regarding the Audio : I had tried the built in microphone in
this camera.
When you use a headset - the quality is reasonable.
When you try to use spekaers on both sides - there is an echo which
becomes stronger during time  (until it is simply unbearable shrike).
(BTW, this is a known phenomenon which happened to me also in NetMeeting but
it seems to me that on Skype the problem is really reduced; If I am not 
wrong they  use
sw echo chacellation mechanisms of IPGlobal (which is commercial) and as I 
know
there is no OpenSource VideoConference projects with Echo Chancellation  ; I 
had looked in GnomeMeeting newsgroup and
I saw that this probelm is with no real solution (except the advice to lower 
the speakers,
which not really helps).

And BTW, probably the sensor is very sensitive - (It is a SONY sensor l at 
least that is waht you can see in the kernel log) - the quality of this 
WebCam in almost total darkness in unbelievable.

I tried it on 2.4 mhz and also on 700 Mhz Intel machines and
it seems enough horsepower for the codecs.
I also tried it with opensource ophone 1.4.1
http://www.openh323.org/code.html
but the results are not as good as gnomemeeting.
Hope this helps,
Rami Rosen



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Subject: Quickcam 4000 pro
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 08:19:57 +0200
Hi all,
I would like to get feedback about using this webcam under linux.
Which soft was used ? Have you succeeded in communicating with windows 
users? (gnomemeeting, others ?)
In using the integrated micro (feedback from others webcam are welcomed) ?

Thanks.
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Re: ADSL QoS shaper

2004-09-09 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> sometimes its not enough to use only TOS and traffic shapers are better.

Using TOS isn't enough. In order for TOS-based priorities to take
actual effect, you also need to cap your upstream to prevent
packet queueing at the ISP side. This is what I've done with the 'tc'
command.

> however, you can set TOS flags to certain ports using iptables.

Right, but it's mostly unnecessary. Before you set TOS on a certain
port, use a traffic analyzer (like Ethereal): You might find out those
packets already have a proper TOS.

> btw, I am not sure you need also OUTPUT, I think PREROUTING is enough.
> also you must understand you only control with TOS the outgoing packets.
> if I understand correctly TOS works by grouping packets in 5 queues of

Linux uses a 3-queue algorithm -- called the 'pfifo_fast' queueing
discipline. You can read more about it in the Linux Advanced Routing
and Traffic Control (LARTC) HOWTO.

> $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 21 -j TOS --set-tos
> Minimize-Delay

That's unnecessary. Your FTP client sets the TOS on its sockets
already.

> $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 22 -j TOS --set-tos
> Minimize-Delay

Ditto for 'ssh'.

> $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 23 -j TOS --set-tos
> Minimize-Delay

And 'telnet' too.

> $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j TOS --set-tos
> Minimize-Delay

That's not entirely smart. This will make HTTP uploads be on the same
priority as pings and Quake games; and Quake games sure need to be more
responsive than mail you send thru your webmail...

> $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 25 -j TOS --set-tos
> Minimize-Delay

That's entirely wrong. Is sending mail an "interactive" task? Nope, and
it surely doesn't deserve to halt your Quake game, or your streaming
video show.

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Problems with WRT54G router

2004-09-09 Thread Haggai Eran
Hi
I have a Linksys WRT54G router. I use it with wireless disabled, only for 
routering to an ADSL connection. A couple of days ago a wierd problem 
started. The connection between the router and the local computers became 
slow and when I pinged the router, it only returned some of the pings. I had 
batbox distribution for WRT54G installed, so I telneted it, and when I pinged 
my local computers from the router, it said something like:
Operation not permitted
When I turned down the NIC that connects to the ADSL modem (eth1) the problem 
stopped, but this makes the router useless. After a reset the problem also 
went away, but today it happened again. Does anyone know what this could be?

PS: I have the latest firmware (2.04.4).
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RE: ADSL QoS shaper

2004-09-09 Thread Tzahi Fadida

> -Original Message-
> From: Ilya Konstantinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Ilya Konstantinov
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 6:44 PM
> To: Tzahi Fadida
> Cc: 'Ilya Konstantinov'; 'Skliarouk Arieh'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ADSL QoS shaper
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 10:17:40PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote:
> > sometimes its not enough to use only TOS and traffic shapers are 
> > better.
> 
> Using TOS isn't enough. In order for TOS-based priorities to 
> take actual effect, you also need to cap your upstream to 
> prevent packet queueing at the ISP side. This is what I've 
> done with the 'tc' command.
> 

as I said, shapers are better. kudos on the initiative.
I'll have to recompile my old kernel though so its not for me at this time.

> > however, you can set TOS flags to certain ports using iptables.
> 
> Right, but it's mostly unnecessary. Before you set TOS on a 
> certain port, use a traffic analyzer (like Ethereal): You 
> might find out those packets already have a proper TOS.
> 
> > btw, I am not sure you need also OUTPUT, I think PREROUTING 
> is enough. 
> > also you must understand you only control with TOS the outgoing 
> > packets. if I understand correctly TOS works by grouping 
> packets in 5 
> > queues of
> 
> Linux uses a 3-queue algorithm -- called the 'pfifo_fast' 
> queueing discipline. You can read more about it in the Linux 
> Advanced Routing and Traffic Control (LARTC) HOWTO.

good to know. gives you more perspective on whats going on in there.

> 
> > $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 21 -j TOS --set-tos 
> > Minimize-Delay
> 
> That's unnecessary. Your FTP client sets the TOS on its 
> sockets already.

probably, to lazy to check.
besides, it's a personal preference of what's important to me.

> 
> > $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 22 -j TOS --set-tos 
> > Minimize-Delay
> 
> Ditto for 'ssh'.
> 
> > $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 23 -j TOS --set-tos 
> > Minimize-Delay
> 
> And 'telnet' too.
> 
> > $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j TOS --set-tos 
> > Minimize-Delay
> 
> That's not entirely smart. This will make HTTP uploads be on 
> the same priority as pings and Quake games; and Quake games 
> sure need to be more responsive than mail you send thru your 
> webmail...

don't play games. I think it's my subjective view of my use.
other people may have other preferences.

> 
> > $iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 25 -j TOS --set-tos 
> > Minimize-Delay
> 
> That's entirely wrong. Is sending mail an "interactive" task? 
> Nope, and it surely doesn't deserve to halt your Quake game, 
> or your streaming video show.

again, personal preferences. others may have other preferences.
in fact,  I'd prefer my mail to get thru as fast as possible 
since its more important to me then any advertisement on ynet etc...

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Re: Quickcam 4000 pro

2004-09-09 Thread Cyril Scetbon
rami rosen wrote:
Hello,
I had tried the logitech 4000 pro on Linux with the pwc and pwcx  driver.
You get good results for a CIF image (352x288).
The quality is much higher comparing to logitech quickcam.
I did not tried it against NetMeeting.
The SW I tried was mainly gnomemeeting.
Regarding the Audio : I had tried the built in microphone in
this camera.
When you use a headset - the quality is reasonable.
When you try to use spekaers on both sides - there is an echo which
becomes stronger during time  (until it is simply unbearable shrike).
yeah, I noticed it :-( that's why I don't use the webcam speaker
Is it necessary to use skype for the sound combinate with gnomemeeting 
for the video or gnomemeeting manages both well ?

(BTW, this is a known phenomenon which happened to me also in 
NetMeeting but
it seems to me that on Skype the problem is really reduced; If I am 
not wrong they  use
sw echo chacellation mechanisms of IPGlobal (which is commercial) and 
as I know
there is no OpenSource VideoConference projects with Echo 
Chancellation  ; I had looked in GnomeMeeting newsgroup and
I saw that this probelm is with no real solution (except the advice to 
lower the speakers,
which not really helps).

And BTW, probably the sensor is very sensitive - (It is a SONY sensor 
l at least that is waht you can see in the kernel log) - the quality 
of this WebCam in almost total darkness in unbelievable.

I tried it on 2.4 mhz and also on 700 Mhz Intel machines and
it seems enough horsepower for the codecs.
I also tried it with opensource ophone 1.4.1
http://www.openh323.org/code.html
but the results are not as good as gnomemeeting.
Hope this helps,
Rami Rosen
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Re: ADSL QoS shaper

2004-09-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tzahi Fadida wrote:
$iptdir -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 80 -j TOS --set-tos 
Minimize-Delay
 

That's not entirely smart. This will make HTTP uploads be on 
the same priority as pings and Quake games; and Quake games 
sure need to be more responsive than mail you send thru your 
webmail...
   

don't play games. I think it's my subjective view of my use.
other people may have other preferences.
 

You're missing something here. When you set "minimize delay", you are 
implicitly allowing the queuing to prefer low latency over high bandwidth.

If your web sites or emails are high volume, are you sure you want them 
sent out slower?

Also take into account that the overall performance of your line are a 
given. There is not much you can do about it. If you give EVERYONE a 
boost, you will see no noticeable change at the end of the day.

 Shachar
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