Re: win2k/xp offline contence and linux
On 2003-02-26 Eran Mann wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > >I think the default compilation option of NTFS is read-only and that > >read-write is experimental. To enable it, you need to recompile this > >module. I think. [...] > It is marked as DANGEROUS, not EXPERIMENTAL. And IIRC in 2.4.x it's > actually supposed to eat your partition. I believe in 2.5.x it's > supposed to be more resonable, but it's still marked DANGEROUS. I > havn't tried enabling it though... FWIW, read-write is dangerous, but only if the write action *modifies* the structure of the filesystem, not when it just modifies the content of an existing file. It is quite easy to have write acces to unused space on an ntfs partition, by loopback mounting ext2 on some large existing ntfs file: I created in windoze, on a large ntfs partition (that would otherwise be unused and not writable from linux) a very large file (couple of gigabytes). Admitted, I can't accesss it from windoze, but who cares :). This requires me to mount the ntfs 'rw', but I am careful to not really write.. (I mount it as root, so usually I feel safe as a regular user) I did have to patch my kernel (2.4.20) with the 'new' ntfs driver. (ntfs-2.x is the new version) # mount | grep ntfs /dev/hda1 on /ntfs type ntfs (rw) /ntfs/do_not_delete on /loopntfs type ext2 (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,loop=/dev/loop0) # grep ntfs /etc/fstab /dev/hda1 /ntfs ntfsnoauto,rw 0 0 /ntfs/do_not_delete /loopntfs ext2noauto,user,rw,loop 0 0 # dmesg |grep -i ntfs NTFS driver 2.1.0a [Flags: R/W]. ftape v3.04d 25/11/97 for Linux 2.4.20preempt-ntfs (plus a couple of unicode errors) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LyX 1.3 is out !!
And is now has a Qt interface !! the XForms interface has been kept as well for all: http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_3_0.txt Eli Segal Bar Technologies = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: win2k/xp offline contence and linux
On 2003-02-27 Christoph Bugel wrote: > FWIW, read-write is dangerous, but only if the write action *modifies* > the structure of the filesystem, not when it just modifies the content > of an existing file. to emphasize: I meant modifying the content, without also changing the size. (because that would change the structure of the FS) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Port scanner
Hi, I'm looking for a IP port scanner to check how well my firewall works. Anyone have any suggestions? TIA, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd, R.M.P.E House, 10 Hartom St. Har Hotzvim Jerusalem, 91450 Israel Tel: +972-2-5417-356 Cell: +972-55-667-090 Do sysadmins count networked sheep? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Port scanner
ביום חמישי 27 פברואר 2003, 12:34, Geoffrey S. Mendelson כתב: Hi , nmap Doron > Hi, I'm looking for a IP port scanner to check how well my firewall > works. Anyone have any suggestions? > > TIA, Geoff. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWD-to-list: Remote execution win->unix
Title: Message is there any way to triger the execution of a unix program from windows? i tried telnet, but it seems there client has no support of sripting or any other batch-file-like mechanism. Thanks, Tal.
Solved [was Re: Mozilla's Menu-Bar does not display any fonts]
It seems that re-installing Mozilla solved the problem. "If it does not work push; if it broke, it needed replacing anyway" Regards, Shlomi Fish On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > Hi! > > After I installed the Mozilla Googlebar: > > http://googlebar.mozdev.org/ > > Whenever I invoke Mozilla (as any user and profile) I get a menu-bar > whose fonts are not displayed at all. The other toolbars (navigation and > bookmarks) are displayed fine as is the various tabs of the sidebar, but > still it is quite unusable. > > Galeon displays fine. > > How do I restore it? > > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ There's no point in keeping an idea to yourself since there's a 10 to 1 chance that somebody already has it and will share it before you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FWD-to-list: Remote execution win->unix
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Tal Achituv wrote: > is there any way to triger the execution of a unix program from windows? > i tried telnet, but it seems there client has no support of sripting or > any other batch-file-like mechanism. > Sure: 1. ssh or rsh. You can find it for cygwin or Interix. 2. You can control a Telnet session using Perl or Tcl Expect or whatever. 3. You can talk the Telnet protocol using Perl's Net::Telnet. Regards, Shlomi Fish > Thanks, > > Tal. > > -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ There's no point in keeping an idea to yourself since there's a 10 to 1 chance that somebody already has it and will share it before you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FWD-to-list: Remote execution win->unix
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Tal Achituv wrote: > is there any way to triger the execution of a unix program from windows? > i tried telnet, but it seems there client has no support of sripting or > any other batch-file-like mechanism. You can use Perl for writing a script as a telnet client even on windows. It is very simple using Net::Telnet Gabor http://www.perl.org.il/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LyX 1.3 is out !!
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Eli Segal wrote: > And is now has a Qt interface !! > the XForms interface has been kept as well > > for all: > http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_3_0.txt How is the bidi support in the qt interface? and in the gtk interface? (is it gtk2?) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FWD-to-list: Remote execution win->unix
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Tal Achituv wrote: > > > is there any way to triger the execution of a unix program from windows? > > i tried telnet, but it seems there client has no support of sripting or > > any other batch-file-like mechanism. > > > > Sure: > > 1. ssh or rsh. You can find it for cygwin or Interix. Or the command-line tool from putty (I forgot its name. plink?) > > 2. You can control a Telnet session using Perl or Tcl Expect or whatever. > > 3. You can talk the Telnet protocol using Perl's Net::Telnet. telnet is not intended for batch jobs. If you want to run batch jobs, use rsh or ssh. They are made for that. -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Port scanner
Quoting Doron Ofek, from the post of Thu, 27 Feb: > ביום חמישי 27 פברואר 2003, 12:34, Geoffrey S. Mendelson כתב: > Hi , > > nmap to make life easier look for nmapfe (both packaged for Debian). also look at Nesus. the later the version the better. -- E! True Hollywood story Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
creating a directory/ partition with the root of z: (like in windows)
I joined a development project where they use mainly windows. Some of their build scripts, and in few places in their code they hardcoded references to a Z: drive. Is there a way to create such a situation in linux where referencing z: will work ? (thus, I can't just create a partition/ directory z: because it would be referenced as /z:/ which is not good). thanks shai = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software design document
On 2003-02-26, I wrote: > It [TeXmacs] has one fatal flaw: no Hebrew, no BiDi (it does have > tranlations and support for most European languages). I've just > mailed the developers asking whether they have bidi plans... > They replied that currently not (they in the middle of heavy restructuring), perhaps sometime after that... -- Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't like assignments, I like problems. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 06:24:14PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003, Matitiahu Allouche wrote about "Re: need tool for high quality > typesetting, unicode-capable": > > As far as I remember, the problem is not entirely (or maybe at all) with > > the Mozilla display engine but with its interaction with fonts. The > > solution is to try various fonts until you find one which gives acceptable > > results. [...] > Can anybody else confirm this? Was anybody able to view Niqqud correctly on > Mozilla? For an example, try it on Genesis 1: > > http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/t/t0101.htm Since nobody replied, at least not to the list, I'll report what I saw in Mozilla on Windows2000. The quick summary: Fonts don't seem to be the problem here, and Mozilla can render niqud correctly with the right HTML and/or style-sheet. I use "Mozilla 1.3a: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212" I looked at two pages because they show different behavior: 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm with Hebrew only 2. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0101.htm which has Hebrew plus an English translation On page 1 the rendering is bad; niqudim appear shifted to the right of the letter they belongs to, and also the boldface/larger letters intermix with the main text. Page 2 is displayed correctly and looks quite nice. I tried this with different fonts: The default (apparently set by the document), Arial, Times New Roman, FrankRuehl, Courier New, Aharoni which AFAIK are also widely used on GNU/Linux systems. Same result for all fonts. So I assume the HTML-document is the root cause. Page 1 (the bad) starts with , uses and has the text in regular paragraphs. Page 2 specifies only , uses and the Hebrew text is set in a table with . I didn't look at the style-sheets, to see what class=h or others specify. For what it's worth: I also tested this in 2 other browsers: MS Internet Explorer 5 displays both pages correctly (with the same default font). Not that I give MS the credit for this, it might be the only browser the page-authors tried ;-) Opera 7 (the Bork edition) renders the niqud correctly below the letters but has another funny "feature". The letters within each word are ordered correctly right-to-left, but the words within on line go from left-to-right: A whole new reading experience. It's the same on both pages. Daniel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creating a directory/ partition with the root of z: (like inwindows)
On 2003-02-27, Shai Bentin wrote: > I joined a development project where they use mainly windows. Some of their > build scripts, and in few places in their code they hardcoded references to a > Z: drive. > Tell the developers that code should not contain hardcoded paths, not even on widnows? > Is there a way to create such a situation in linux where referencing z: will > work ? (thus, I can't just create a partition/ directory z: because it would > be referenced as /z:/ which is not good). > You can have it in the current directory (relative path); if you have a finite number of directories from which it runs, you can make some symlinks to map z: in all these places to the same dir. Also note that this name might cause problems in some unix contexts where `:' is used as a separator (notably various search pathes). -- Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't like assignments, I like problems. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Port scanner
See www.grc.com Shalom (Regards), Mati Bidi Architect Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts IBM Israel Phone: +972 2 502Fax: +972 2 5870333Mobile: +972 52 554160 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Port scanner Hi, I'm looking for a IP port scanner to check how well my firewall works. Anyone have any suggestions? TIA, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson MobilEye Vision Technologies Ltd, R.M.P.E House, 10 Hartom St. Har Hotzvim Jerusalem, 91450 Israel Tel: +972-2-5417-356 Cell: +972-55-667-090 Do sysadmins count networked sheep? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
> I use "Mozilla 1.3a: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; > rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212" > > I looked at two pages because they show different behavior: > > 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm >with Hebrew only Looks perfect on Konqueror. I hope the win32 version of the KHTML version will be published soon. > For what it's worth: I also tested this in 2 other browsers: > > MS Internet Explorer 5 displays both pages correctly (with the same > default font). Not that I give MS the credit for this, it might be > the only browser the page-authors tried ;-) Probably. Mozilla in Linux shows it very bad. > Opera 7 (the Bork edition) renders the niqud correctly below the > letters but has another funny "feature". The letters within each word > are ordered correctly right-to-left, but the words within on line go > from left-to-right: A whole new reading experience. It's the same on > both pages. Opera Still doesn't have Bidi support (despite their promises to have it by Opera 7), and the hebrew in text is using Windows bidi engine (but not fully, as you can see).. Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)": > > I use "Mozilla 1.3a: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; > > rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212" > > > > I looked at two pages because they show different behavior: > > > > 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm > >with Hebrew only > > Looks perfect on Konqueror. I hope the win32 version of the KHTML version will Perfect?? For me, it couldn't look worse. I see no Hebrew letters or niqqud, just squares... I'm using Konqueror on Redhat 8.0 (kdebase-2.2.2-1). Maybe a later release of Konqueror fixed this issue? > > MS Internet Explorer 5 displays both pages correctly (with the same > > default font). Not that I give MS the credit for this, it might be > > the only browser the page-authors tried ;-) > > Probably. Mozilla in Linux shows it very bad. In Linux Mozilla, the niqqud appears to the side, rather than below, the letters. I believe this is a Mozilla problem, not a font problem, as I don't believe current X fonts even have the capability to define the correct positioning of Niqud (please correct me if I'm wrong). The niqqud-on-the-side happens in my Mozilla (1.0.1) with either pages that were linked (with or without the English translation). I get exactly the same problems in Arabic, so it's not a Hebrew-specific issue. -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Feb 27 2003, 25 Adar I 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |I don't eat snails. I prefer fast food. http://nadav.harel.org.il | = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creating a directory/ partition with the root of z: (like inwindows)
On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 13:40, Shai Bentin wrote: > I joined a development project where they use mainly windows. Some of their > build scripts, and in few places in their code they hardcoded references to a > Z: drive. I see. Can you share with us the name of this fine outfit? I want to make sure I never to accidentally buy software or services from them by mistake... > > Is there a way to create such a situation in linux where referencing z: will > work ? (thus, I can't just create a partition/ directory z: because it would > be referenced as /z:/ which is not good). My best advice would be, save for a total re-write which seems very needed, to hijack the open() and other file related system calls with code that would replace z: in the requested paths with something sensible. The following lecture notes might be helpful and it contains a working example. Look at the "Having fun with the dynamic linker" slides and beyond: http://www.benyossef.com/presentations/dlink/ Please be aware though that doing one you want is not very simple since many glibc functions use _open() and friends internally rather then the exported symbols and these are not exported. This problem can be overcome by a one line patch to glibc but I'm pretty sure you wont need it for what you described. And don't hardcode paths, bog dammit! :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://benyossef.com " [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep processors /var/log/dmesg Total of 64 processors activated (76359.40 BogoMIPS). " = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Thursday 27 February 2003 13:21, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)": > > > 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm > > >with Hebrew only > > > > Looks perfect on Konqueror. I hope the win32 version of the KHTML version > > will > > Perfect?? For me, it couldn't look worse. I see no Hebrew letters or > niqqud, just squares... I'm using Konqueror on Redhat 8.0 > (kdebase-2.2.2-1). Maybe a later release of Konqueror fixed this issue? kdebase-2.2.2 in RH8 ? Are you sure ? Renders great here, using konq from week old cvs build. > > Probably. Mozilla in Linux shows it very bad. > > In Linux Mozilla, the niqqud appears to the side, rather than below, the > letters. I believe this is a Mozilla problem, not a font problem, as I > don't believe current X fonts even have the capability to define the > correct positioning of Niqud (please correct me if I'm wrong). > > The niqqud-on-the-side happens in my Mozilla (1.0.1) with either pages > that were linked (with or without the English translation). > > I get exactly the same problems in Arabic, so it's not a Hebrew-specific > issue. Same here using Mozilla 1.3b -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shachar Shemesh strikes Again!
You are all invited for another haifux lecture. The lecture will take place on next Monday, 3/3/3, 18:33, in Taub (3+3), the computer science dept. bldg. in the technion. The lecutre will contain a demonstration of buffer over-runs. This is the second part of the lecture about secure programming (slides can be found at: http://www.shemesh.biz/lectures More info on how to get there, etc.: www.haifux.org -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Man is the only animal that blushes--or has reason to." --- Mark Twain Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
I see squares with Internet Explorer also (Not all squares ... one in every word) - Original Message - From: "Meir Kriheli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...) > On Thursday 27 February 2003 13:21, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was > Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)": > > > > 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm > > > >with Hebrew only > > > > > > Looks perfect on Konqueror. I hope the win32 version of the KHTML version > > > will > > > > Perfect?? For me, it couldn't look worse. I see no Hebrew letters or > > niqqud, just squares... I'm using Konqueror on Redhat 8.0 > > (kdebase-2.2.2-1). Maybe a later release of Konqueror fixed this issue? > > kdebase-2.2.2 in RH8 ? Are you sure ? > > Renders great here, using konq from week old cvs build. > > > > Probably. Mozilla in Linux shows it very bad. > > > > In Linux Mozilla, the niqqud appears to the side, rather than below, the > > letters. I believe this is a Mozilla problem, not a font problem, as I > > don't believe current X fonts even have the capability to define the > > correct positioning of Niqud (please correct me if I'm wrong). > > > > The niqqud-on-the-side happens in my Mozilla (1.0.1) with either pages > > that were linked (with or without the English translation). > > > > I get exactly the same problems in Arabic, so it's not a Hebrew-specific > > issue. > > Same here using Mozilla 1.3b > -- > Meir Kriheli > MKsoft systems > http://www.mksoft.co.il > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Meir Kriheli wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)": > > Perfect?? For me, it couldn't look worse. I see no Hebrew letters or > > niqqud, just squares... I'm using Konqueror on Redhat 8.0 > > (kdebase-2.2.2-1). Maybe a later release of Konqueror fixed this issue? > > kdebase-2.2.2 in RH8 ? Are you sure ? Oops, sorry, I accidentally tested this on a Redhat 7.2 (!), on which I had kdebase-2.2.2. I will check it on Redhat 8.0 later tonight. If Konqueror can show Niqqud, it's great news :) -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Feb 27 2003, 25 Adar I 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |What's tiny, yellow and very dangerous? A http://nadav.harel.org.il |canary with the super-user password. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
Hi, I don't know why, but this behavior is pretty much irritating... I'm trying to setup few thin clients to work with some Java based hebrew chats (like Nana, IOL, and some other Netfun based chats)... While it's working OK (in KDE CVS and Mozilla), I can only type Hebrew with the xmodmap hack - e.g.: xmodmap /usr/local/etc/xmodmap-heb.101 And NOT with the standard way with XFree 4.x. This creates a big problem if a person wants to chat in hebrew in 1 window, while typing Hebrew text in forums in another window... Is there any tip/hack to make JRE work with the newer Hebrew? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
> Perfect?? For me, it couldn't look worse. I see no Hebrew letters or > niqqud, just squares... I'm using Konqueror on Redhat 8.0 > (kdebase-2.2.2-1). Maybe a later release of Konqueror fixed this issue? kdebase-2.2.2??? in RedHat 8.0? do you mean RedHat 7.0? KDE-3.1 should show it well.. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)": > Oops, sorry, I accidentally tested this on a Redhat 7.2 (!), on which I > had kdebase-2.2.2. I will check it on Redhat 8.0 later tonight. > If Konqueror can show Niqqud, it's great news :) I just looked at it on Konqueror from Redhat 8.0 (kdebase-3.0.3-14), and indeed the Hebrew looks all right, but the niqqud is completely absent... :( http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm -- Nadav Har'El|Thursday, Feb 27 2003, 25 Adar I 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Support bacteria - they're the only http://nadav.harel.org.il |culture some people have! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know why, but this behavior is pretty much irritating... > > I'm trying to setup few thin clients to work with some Java based hebrew chats > (like Nana, IOL, and some other Netfun based chats)... > > While it's working OK (in KDE CVS and Mozilla), I can only type Hebrew with > the xmodmap hack - e.g.: > > xmodmap /usr/local/etc/xmodmap-heb.101 > > And NOT with the standard way with XFree 4.x. What is this xmodmap-heb.101 ? something that maps Hebrew to "8bit" codes? (alef to 224 etc.)? > > This creates a big problem if a person wants to chat in hebrew in 1 window, > while typing Hebrew text in forums in another window... > > Is there any tip/hack to make JRE work with the newer Hebrew? An obvious lame hack is to create an extra group with 8bit chars. But are yo sure this is "JRE" and not a case of a bad programmer that assumes byte=char? -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
The applets from netfun, are heavily relay on Microsoft Java and almost all of them wont work at all with mozilla on linux - Original Message - From: "Hetz Ben Hamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 5:25 PM Subject: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux > Hi, > > I don't know why, but this behavior is pretty much irritating... > > I'm trying to setup few thin clients to work with some Java based hebrew chats > (like Nana, IOL, and some other Netfun based chats)... > > While it's working OK (in KDE CVS and Mozilla), I can only type Hebrew with > the xmodmap hack - e.g.: > > xmodmap /usr/local/etc/xmodmap-heb.101 > > And NOT with the standard way with XFree 4.x. > > This creates a big problem if a person wants to chat in hebrew in 1 window, > while typing Hebrew text in forums in another window... > > Is there any tip/hack to make JRE work with the newer Hebrew? > > Thanks, > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
On Thursday 27 February 2003 05:56 pm, Eli Segal wrote: > The applets from netfun, are heavily relay on Microsoft Java > and almost all of them wont work at all with mozilla on linux Well, they DO work, but in order to actually type something in hebrew, you'll need the "hack" I mentioned in the earlier email (Nana, IOL, Tapuz ,Ynet, Cellcomm all seems to work - Walla uses a different thing). Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
> > An obvious lame hack is to create an extra group with 8bit chars. > > But are yo sure this is "JRE" and not a case of a bad programmer that > assumes byte=char? Yes, and I'll tell you why... If it would only work against MS JVM, then it's a problematic issue from the programmer side, BUT it does work with Sun's JRE 1.4.1 on Windows with standard hebrew, but the same JRE on Linux - you get the hebrew problem.. So the question is - why the same JRE (I didn't test IBM's one, it doesn't run on RH 8.1 beta) works differently between Windows & Linux? Why doesn't it translates XFree 4.x hebrew keys to the JRE hebrew keys? Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
On Thursday 27 February 2003 05:56 pm, Eli Segal wrote: > The applets from netfun, are heavily relay on Microsoft Java > and almost all of them wont work at all with mozilla on linux I contacted Netfun few months ago. They did give a free upgrade to all their customers, and that upgrade works perfectly with the latest IBM/Sun's JRE.. If you don't mind - please tell me which chat doesn't work (there's one chat in sex4free.co.il which is written in Visual Basic, so it's a bit of a problem to run it under Linux ;) Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
ביום חמישי 27 פברואר 2003, 18:16, Hetz Ben Hamo כתב: > On Thursday 27 February 2003 05:56 pm, Eli Segal wrote: > > The applets from netfun, are heavily relay on Microsoft Java > > and almost all of them wont work at all with mozilla on linux > > I contacted Netfun few months ago. They did give a free upgrade to all > their customers, and that upgrade works perfectly with the latest IBM/Sun's > JRE.. > > If you don't mind - please tell me which chat doesn't work (there's one > chat in sex4free.co.il which is written in Visual Basic, so it's a bit of a > problem to run it under Linux ;) so now we do know what do you do in your spear time ;) which chats do work, and which not? (talking about now, using kde3, kde31 or mozilla) - diego To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange SAMBA problem
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 21:51, Omer Zak wrote: > How is your VPN connection (via the ADSL modem) configured? > If it is the default configuration, then it takes the IP 10.200.1.1. > Try to change it to 10.200.1.5. > I may be missing something here, but I don't think that's relevant. Notice in my previous posts and answers to Tzafrir's questions that I'm pinging with no problems in all directions and also able to reach all shares in all directions - except the ones on kids (10.200.1.4). But kids can see shares on shlomo1 (10.200.1.1). So the problem is not the IP addresses. If I'm wrong, please tell me what I'm missing or not understanding. -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.5a) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LyX 1.3 is out !!
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 01:19:36PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Eli Segal wrote: > > > And is now has a Qt interface !! > > the XForms interface has been kept as well > > > > for all: > > http://www.lyx.org/announce/1_3_0.txt > > How is the bidi support in the qt interface? and in the gtk interface? (is > it gtk2?) The QT frontend supports bidi: it is now possible to see/enter Hebrew text in the search/replace dialog or in the spellchecker dialog. A slight inconvenience is that the xkb keymap should be used to enter text in the dialog, while LyX own keymap should be used to enter main text. I will fix this issue in the future (namely, allowing to use the xkb keymap for the text). As the QT frontend supports bidi and the default frontend doesn't, the former is recommended for Hebrew users. NOTE: The LANG env. variable should be set to he_IL. The gtk frontend in currently far from working. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
> so now we do know what do you do in your spear time ;) Well, working at Rotal left me with plenty of free time (same problems with almost all clients, shitty modems, sending patches which got NOTHING to do with the problems (anyone got the GCP patches from Rotal? or Via-4in1? ;) Thank goodness I'm hoping to start working this sunday. Thanks Marc! > which chats do work, and which not? (talking about now, using kde3, kde31 > or mozilla) All the following chats works with KDE CVS (not 3.1) due to a problem which was hard to fix (thats according to the Java plugin maintainer in KDE). Red Hat KDE 3.1 is a bit of unstable (wait till you launch konqueror in Redhat 8.1 final to see their web pages instead of Konqueror's greeting) so I switched to KDE CVS.. With mozilla they all work - but you DO need to change the keyboard layout to the old hebrew first.. * Walla - seems not to work either in Mozilla or Konqueror.. * IOL - Works * Tapuz - works. * Ynet - Works * CellCom - works * Snunit - Works * 103FM - works Whats NOT working: * Walla - lots of specially and ugly hacks - doesn't work * sex4free - doesn't work * Tapuz webcam chat - doesn't work (ActiveX) * Nana new chat - works in Mozilla, not in KDE. ** Few tips: 1. to get a fast access to the chat applets, you can simply go to: http://when2000.tripod.com - that will cut out the ads ;) 2. In order to skip Tapuz ads, I made a tiny web page on my server (http://witch.dyndns.org/chat.html) which will let you type your nick and room and join without ads. Note - if your locale in KDE is not set to hebrew, then you'll need to reloads the java app with the encoding ISO8859-1. Hope this helps, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: top level project directory
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003 08:27:56 +0200 Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way, which does NOT > involve setting an environment variable, to refer to the top level > project directory? Of course automake generated Makefiles (Makefile.in to be exact) are built to define $(topdir) Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron www.OpenBSD.org -- We're fixing security problems so you can sleep at night. (If it wasn't so fascinating I might get some sleep myself...) Theo de Raadt = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
ביום חמישי 27 פברואר 2003, 19:07, Hetz Ben Hamo כתב: > * Tapuz webcam chat - doesn't work (ActiveX) acording to: http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.1.php, konqui can use activex's. Anyone knows something about that? - diegp To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun's JRE and hebrew keyboard in Linux
> acording to: http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.1.php, konqui can use > activex's. Anyone knows something about that? Nope, that was should of work with a part called reaktivate - it's kicked out now.. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need tool for high quality typeset...)
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote about "Re: Niqud in Mozilla (was Re: need
> tool for high quality typeset...)":
> > Oops, sorry, I accidentally tested this on a Redhat 7.2 (!), on which I
> > had kdebase-2.2.2. I will check it on Redhat 8.0 later tonight.
> > If Konqueror can show Niqqud, it's great news :)
>
> I just looked at it on Konqueror from Redhat 8.0 (kdebase-3.0.3-14), and
> indeed the Hebrew looks all right, but the niqqud is completely absent... :(
>
> http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm
What fonts are you using?
I have kde3.1 (uses fonts from Xft2), mozilla 1.2.1 (and galeon that uses
the same gecko) and mozilla-snapshot that seems to be of a later version
with Xft support but slightly buggy.
With KDE I had to change the Hebrew font to something other than David or
Aharoni to allow me to view the nikkud. FrankRuhel and Nahlieli shows them
fine. That is: except the Dagesh that is rendered as a separate char, and
not as a zero-width nikud.
Both the mozillas don't seem to support zero-width nikud chars, at least
with all the fonts I have installed: the culmus fonts and {misc|etl}-fixed
on mozilla 1.2.1 and all of those fonts in addition to ClearlyU with the
mozilla-snapshot. The snapshot had some horrible problems using NAhlieli
to display the page: there were some wierd spaces all over.
(debian unstable)
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Re: GDM .. still locks
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Eli Segal wrote: > yesterday again ! when i went out of fvwm to gdm > it lock on gdm and nothing worked even SysRq didn't > (and i have and tested it) > this is very strange as in happens only when I'm on gdm > Anyhow i moved to xdm and i'll see if it happen again. > > OT : I found some really nice XDM screenshots with their files > http://xdm.house.cx/gallery/xdm I would stick with either gdm or kdm. I personally choose gdm, because I would rather have something I could configure from its config files, and not only using its graphical front-end (e.g: in the case it doesn't start). KDM has a frightening warning about where its original config files don't reside. I saw zero documentation about where the original config files do reside. And back to your original post: What about debug mode? What about logs? As for debug mode: search for "debug" in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf . As for the logs: most of them reside on /var/log/gdm , IIRC. If something manages to lock your console really bad, it is probably the X server itself, and the the DM. If you have a network, connect from a different machine and try killing the X server and/or gdm: one thing that may be able to reset things is if another X server will run on that display, or if an X server will run on another display. (so maybe try running "xinit /usr/X11R6/bin/twm -- :1" . Though you may need to be root to run this as a non-local user) -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
