On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 06:24:14PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Fri, Feb 21, 2003, Matitiahu Allouche wrote about "Re: need tool for high quality > typesetting, unicode-capable": > > As far as I remember, the problem is not entirely (or maybe at all) with > > the Mozilla display engine but with its interaction with fonts. The > > solution is to try various fonts until you find one which gives acceptable > > results. [...] > Can anybody else confirm this? Was anybody able to view Niqqud correctly on > Mozilla? For an example, try it on Genesis 1: > > http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/t/t0101.htm
Since nobody replied, at least not to the list, I'll report what I saw in Mozilla on Windows2000. The quick summary: Fonts don't seem to be the problem here, and Mozilla can render niqud correctly with the right HTML and/or style-sheet. I use "Mozilla 1.3a: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021212" I looked at two pages because they show different behavior: 1. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/c/ct/c0101.htm with Hebrew only 2. http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0101.htm which has Hebrew plus an English translation On page 1 the rendering is bad; niqudim appear shifted to the right of the letter they belongs to, and also the boldface/larger letters intermix with the main text. Page 2 is displayed correctly and looks quite nice. I tried this with different fonts: The default (apparently set by the document), Arial, Times New Roman, FrankRuehl, Courier New, Aharoni which AFAIK are also widely used on GNU/Linux systems. Same result for all fonts. So I assume the HTML-document is the root cause. Page 1 (the bad) starts with <html LANG=HE DIR=RTL>, uses <link REL="stylesheet" HREF="c.css" TYPE="text/css"> and has the text in regular <p> paragraphs. Page 2 specifies only <html>, uses <link REL="stylesheet" HREF="p.css" TYPE="text/css"> and the Hebrew text is set in a table with <td class=h WIDTH="50%">. I didn't look at the style-sheets, to see what class=h or others specify. For what it's worth: I also tested this in 2 other browsers: MS Internet Explorer 5 displays both pages correctly (with the same default font). Not that I give MS the credit for this, it might be the only browser the page-authors tried ;-) Opera 7 (the Bork edition) renders the niqud correctly below the letters but has another funny "feature". The letters within each word are ordered correctly right-to-left, but the words within on line go from left-to-right: A whole new reading experience. It's the same on both pages. Daniel ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
