Re: which TV card?

[Yedidyah Bar-David]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 09:08:40AM +0200, shlomo solomon wrote:
> On Thursday 16 January 2003 19:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > One more thing - about quality: I could barely see anything with the
> > card as-is. I bought a cable-signal-amplifier (around 100 NIS at home-
> > center), and with it most channels are fine. A notable exception is
> > channel 3, which is also of lower quality in a real TV. I think this is
> 
> After reading this comment on signal quality, I decided to try a few more 
> experiments on the non-functional FlyVideo2000 before buying a new bt8* card. 
> Since I made some proghress and found real differences between the way the 
> card works under Linux and Windows, I think this is still, at least 
> partially, on topic. Here's what I did: Instead of buying a 
> cable-signal-amplifier as Yedidyah suggested, I hooked the card up to a VCR 

Good idea.

> and tred it on my machine and my wife's Windows machine. Here are the 
> results:
> 
> Windows: 
> - Good reception but no colour
> - No audio. 
> - The bundled software allows me to change window size or use as full screen.
> 
> Linux:
> - After modprobe saa7134 I got an icon on the desk-top and clicking it gave me 
> an excellent colour picture (as opposed to black-and-white on Windows), so 
> this is better than Windows.
> - Here too there's no audio.

I don't know about saa7134 but with bttv you also have to load tuner.o
with a correct 'type='.

> - I can only enlarge the window to about 2/3 of the height and 2/3 of the 
> width of the screen. Choosing full screen gives me a window of the same size 
> (not a full screen) on a black background. I tried changing resolution to 
> 640x480 and the TV picture then filled the screen, but this is obviously not 
> a solution I want to use - I run at 1024x768.

While I recommend you do move to 640x480 while watching TV (which
should not be too hard - a Ctrl-Alt-+ with a well-configured X),
you can try the '-remote' option of xawtv and see if it works better
(but much slower, unless on a fast machine).

> 
> The fact that there's no audio on Windows or Linux led me to believe that 
> maybe I'd connected someting wrong, but I don't think this is the case since 
> the FM radio tuner on the card does work (I only tried on Windows, but that 
> does prove the wires are connected properly).
> 
> Any comments on the audio and resolution problems would be appreciated.
> 
> TIA
> 
> 
> 
> BTW - I also tried Kwintv as an alternative to xawtv, but there were so many 
> error messages (and no help file), that at the moment, I don't see any point 
> wasting time on it. The front-end is much more polished than xawtv, but if it 
> doesn't even detect the TV device, this alpha software is not yet ready. But, 
> based on good experience with KDE, I think when the bugs get fixed, this will 
> be a good program.
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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL
> modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the
> specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well.
>
> Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box,
> not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty?

If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet).

I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem (external)

Thanks,
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RE: Samsung ADSL modems

[Tzahi Fadida]

I have it, and u only need the http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/ client to set it 
up. it takes a
few minutes.
There is a another problem though! if u can avoid replacing the modem then do it. it 
turns out that
on high stress the modem gets stuck. the only way i can reproduce it is running 
overnet with 150
connections + for 2 to 3 days. at first it slowly but surely starts to get slower and 
slower.
even if u just pull the overnet off for a few hrs, it won't matter.
plus, without overnet, it takes it about a month or so to get stuck, again with 
average load. but
surely
it gets slower before that. but that can be solved at the early stages by stopping and 
starting the
adsl connection modem, but this i am not sure off.
so be warned. i tried to talk to them to replace my modem, but they didn't came back 
to me and
i don't have the time to deal with it right now. and didn't for the last 2 months.

n.b: when i say gets stuck, i mean the modem is not responsive and u can't ping or 
connect to it.
the only way to get it back is to pull the plug.

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> Muli Ben-Yehuda
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> To: Marc's List
> Subject: Samsung ADSL modems
>
>
> Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL
> modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the
> specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well.
>
> Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box,
> not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty?
>
> I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some
> investigating. I'll keep the list posted.
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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Muli Ben-Yehuda]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet).

I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is
that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire
"Merkaziya", and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. 

> I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem
(external)

Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. 
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Re: NEWS: Cables configuration

[Dani Arbel]

Hi!
The setup looks ok. I'd remove nis from nsswitch.conf , since I believe
Eran does not have a Linux farm ...
so I'd change the hosts line in that file to be:
hosts:  files dns
Anyway, I think it is not the problem. Start ethereal to capture traffic
from eth0 and then try to do some kind of name resolution (nslookup, host
etc)
Dani


On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, guy keren wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote:
>
> > Quoth Eran Levy:
> >
> > > Yes I have DNS resolution problem. Im not uses my own DNS server. Im using
> > > Netvision's DNS server only.
> > > here are the files:
> > > /etc/resolv.conf:
> > >nameserver 194.90.1.5
> >
> > add a "domain foo.com" or "search bar.net" to this file.
>
> doesn't sound relevant to the problem. the 'search' or 'domain' entries
> are used just to optimize the queries - not to make them 'correct'.
>
> this addition simplyallows partial domain names lookup to work (i.e.
> searching for 'foo', which is under the 'bar.net' domain, will work if the
> 'search bar.net' entry is found in resolv.conf).
>
> thus, i presume this is not going to solve the problem (unless the user
> was trying to look up such partial names, and expected this to work
> without the 'domain' or 'search' entries).
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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Meir Kriheli]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 08:28, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet).
>
> I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is
> that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire
> "Merkaziya", and you have to switch to the Samsung modem.

Same situtation happend here (from Orckit to Samsung). It worked out of the 
box. It uses PPPoE. You can get the dialer from 
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

> > I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem
>
> Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them.

No such experience here. Worked out of the box with no problems, was easy to 
setup, just as pptp.
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Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Grinberg, Hari]

Title: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed





Hi,

I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free.

Hari Grinberg

System Eng' - Projects Platform Engineering

Project Delivery - Jerusalem

Phone:   + 972 (0)2   5894748

Mobile:   +972 (0) 55 664748 

Fax:   +972 (0) 2 5894725



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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> shareware

In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW

> or free.

cygwin...

The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
else.

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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Christoph Bugel]

On 2003-01-19  Grinberg, Hari wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat
> Linux shareware or free.

Exceed is an X server. In unix, graphics are based on X anyway, so
you already have the X server installed! You just need to know how it
works.

I don't know what you want to do. If you just want to display a
graphical application on your RedHat display, you don't need to do
anything special (except for setting the $DISPLAY variable on your
remote machine). I would recommed this, because I can't imagine why
you need something more complicated.

on your remote machine define an environment variable
DISPLAY === redhatbox:0.0
and make sure your redhat box allows connections (man xhost or xauth)
and then on your remote machine type the name of your graphical app
and that's it.

If you really want the entire 'desktop environment' of the remote
machine (for some reason), you can run a second X server, next to the
default one on your RedHat box. I'm not very experienced in this, but
my X server usually runs under virtual terminal 7 (ctrl-alt-F7), and
it is simle to start another one under (ctrl-alt-F8), by going to
your console, and typing something like this:

XFree86: startx -- :1.0 -auth /dev/null

(yes I know, the -auth thing is probably wrong..)



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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Nadav Har'El]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Seeking for a program identical 
to Exceed":
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:
> > I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> > shareware
> > or free.
> 
> In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW

He said "shareware *or* free", meaning he knows these are two different
things...

> cygwin...
> 
> The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
> But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
> and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
> else.

Hari, maybe I misunderstood you but you said you wanted something like
Exceed for *Linux*??? Redhat already has a fine X server, and you don't
need anything like Exceed on it... In fact, Exceed is based on the Unix
X-Windows servers...

If you were thinking of Excell (a spreadsheet), try OpenOffice, or one of
the dozen other free spreadsheets (gnumeric, etc.).

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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Yakov Broido]

Title: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed









Hey,

You could use cygwin’s
XFree..  which is a port of XFree to windows.

You can find cygwin
under www.cygwin.com

 

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Subject: Seeking for a program
identical to Exceed

 

Hi,

I am seeking for a program work like
Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux shareware or free.

Hari Grinberg

System Eng' -
Projects Platform Engineering

Project Delivery -
Jerusalem

Phone:   +
972 (0)2   5894748

Mobile:  
+972 (0) 55 664748 

Fax:  
+972 (0) 2 5894725

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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[barak yaish]

Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site,
installed it and found no gcc came with it...

barak.

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Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed


On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> shareware

In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW

> or free.

cygwin...

The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
else.

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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Alon Weinstein]

You can select which libraries to download & install during setup. Make
sure gcc is marked.

Read the cygwin installation manual.


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> Subject: RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
> 
> 
> Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it 
> from redhat site, installed it and found no gcc came with it...
> 
> barak.
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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, barak yaish wrote:

> Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat site,
> installed it and found no gcc came with it...
>
> barak.
>

cygwin has an installer to incrementally install more software from the
Internet. Use it to install gcc and everything else you need.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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> Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> > shareware
>
> In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW
>
> > or free.
>
> cygwin...
>
> The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
> But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
> and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
> else.
>
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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Grinberg, Hari]

Thanks for help I try to install cygwin on a Win2K system I don't know
 it is looking more as a CRT program not a X based or I did something
 Wrong. 

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On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, barak yaish wrote:

> Are there numerous versions for cygwin? I've downloaded it from redhat
site,
> installed it and found no gcc came with it...
>
> barak.
>

cygwin has an installer to incrementally install more software from the
Internet. Use it to install gcc and everything else you need.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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> Subject: Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> > shareware
>
> In my book shareware is somwthing that costs money, BTW
>
> > or free.
>
> cygwin...
>
> The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
> But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
> and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
> else.
>
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Re: NEWS: Cables configuration

[guy keren]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Dani Arbel wrote:

> Hi!
> The setup looks ok. I'd remove nis from nsswitch.conf , since I believe
> Eran does not have a Linux farm ...
> so I'd change the hosts line in that file to be:
> hosts:  files dns
> Anyway, I think it is not the problem. Start ethereal to capture traffic
> from eth0 and then try to do some kind of name resolution (nslookup, host
> etc)

could it be that he has a firewall setup that blocks his DNS requests? 
they go over UDP connect5ions, and if one blocks all UDP ports, one gets 
stuck. eran? any firewall set up there?

you can also try to make DNS queries directly to the DNS server, using the 
'host' command. something like:

host ftp.netvision.net.il 194.90.1.5

'host' will query the given name server (194.90.1.5) directly for the 
details of 'ftp.netvision.net.il'. if this works, it means no firewall
problems. if this does not work - i'd suggest making sure the firewall is 
(temporarily) disabled (if indeed it is running at all) by 'iptables -F', 
and then running this check again.

please note that in current distributions, one chooses the firewalling 
level during system installation, and you _might_ have accidentally set it 
up, and a mode that blocks your DNS queries (or the DNS replies).

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adsl usb modems

[Diego Iastrubni]

Hi all,

I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models actcom 
gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and how much are 
good or not.

>From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb seems 
better then nic+modem (less money...)

Thanks a lot.

- diego

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A response to Nadav's message

[Richard Stallman]

Stallman gave the example of "Linux" distributions that include
non-free software (such as Netscape and Oracle to use his
examples) and call them value-added software, and objects! To him,
these are "freedom-dereased software", not "value-added software".

I call them "freedom-subtracted" packages, because if you are running
a free operating system and living in freedom, they offer you an
opportunity to part with your freedom.

In fact, I believe that one of the things about the "Open Source" movement
that scares (or repels) Stallman the most is the fact that is indeed, to
some degree, a synthesis between the philosophy of free software, and the
philosophies behind proprietary software.

It both repels and worries me, and Nadav is right about the reason.
The open source movement cites the same basic values that proprietary
software developers cite: making software "better" (in a narrow
practical sense).  They say nothing about the value of freedom itself,
or of living an upright life.

If we cannot deliver good free software to do a certain job, perhaps
because a necessary idea is patented, or because the DMCA and similar
laws prohibit it, how will a user react?  If he has believed the open
source movement's claim that our methods make better software, he will
respond, "You failed to deliver on your claim.  You are wrong."  But
if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software
movement, he will say, "How dare they do this to us!"

If organizations decide that open source is technically advantageous,
they may still decide that the advantage of using a popular
proprietary package is greater.  But when they come to see non-free
software as a social problem that subjugates them and hurts the whole
society where it is used, they may make a point of helping society to
move away from it.

[1] Stallman keeps referring to GNU as "we", but he never seems to mention
anyone else who has written that software along with him. This was
particularly strange when he referred to "the guy who wrote Hurd", and

Since I was talking mainly about the problems that arose in Hurd
development, I felt it was more polite not to name names.  In any
case, I take responsibility for the choice of overall architecture and
the choice of Mach as base, which are surely part of the cause of the
long delay.

The Hurd was started by Michael Bushnell (now Thomas Bushnell).  Miles
Bader and Roland McGrath also worked on it substantially.  Today
Marcus Brinkmann is a major contributor.

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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

> I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is
> that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire
> "Merkaziya", and you have to switch to the Samsung modem.

They are, but they will stay fully compatible backward (all the modems that 
Rotal gives are using PPPoA only, some of them [samsung PCI/ITEX can be 
connected as ANSI or PPPoE)..

> > I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem
> (external)
>
> Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them.

The problems are not related to Linux. I have heard few sources at the 
upstairs level of Bezeq who are trully unsatisfied with this modems.

Thanks,
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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Ely Levy]

www.cygwin.com
check the xfree section

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



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> Hi,
>
> I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> shareware or free.
>
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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 11:54, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> cygwin...
>
> The X server could use some improvements, as well as the setup program.
> But it is really free, and it comes with a wealth of unix applications,
> and gcc is there so you're able to build for yourself just about anything
> else.

I hope that Codeweavers will release soon their modifications to Cygwin X - 
they did an amazing job there.

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: adsl usb modems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

> I would like to know the status of adsl usb modems, (which ever models
> actcom gives out this days). How mauch are those modems supported, and how
> much are good or not.

Some of them are supported (I don't know which modems Actcom gives - I'm 
talking about the modems which rotal [my employer] gives). 

Those modems are cheap Winmodems, and by writing cheap I mean REALLY cheap 
stuff, so if you have even slight of a random noise on the line - they'll 
disconnect from the "Merkezet"/"Dislam"/redback, whatever...

As for support - I posted here some instructions how to use them on linux (the 
ALE070, not the ALE130) - check it at http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz

Those modems are working really bad (if at all) with OHCI based USB chipset - 
if you have: ALI, AMD, VIA, SIS, NEC, or Intel 82371 chipset (you can check 
in linux by running: /sbin/lspci | grep USB ) then chances are that the modem 
will have tons of disconnections.

> From what I hear it's not: I would like tto know exactly why, since usb
> seems better then nic+modem (less money...)

Less money, more troubles - I've been there. A simple NIC costs 40-70 NIS, 
depends where you buy it. An Alcatel modem (bezeq stopped importing it) costs 
at ebay about $20-50, and you can take my word for it - it worths every 
shekel/dollar!

Also, don't forget that those modems use your CPU for all the work needed to 
be done on a dedicated modem like Alcatel, Orkit or Samsung [external] - so 
if you have a slow processor, it will only be slower..

Thanks,
Hetz

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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Grinberg, Hari wrote:

> Thanks for help I try to install cygwin on a Win2K system I don't know
>  it is looking more as a CRT program not a X based or I did something
>  Wrong.

putty is probably the best free alternative (for telnet, rsh and ssh.
Needless to say that the latter is preffered)

Search google for 'putty'

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Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Alon Weinstein]

I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for
Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the
instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
I added "client code page = 862" & "character set = ISO8859-8" to my
smb.conf, I had to use make_smbcodepage to create codepage.862 from
CP862.TXT in Samba's sources (for some reason I didn't have that
codepage in /etc/codepages) and also to use make_unicodemap to create
unicode_map.ISO9959-8 from CPISO8859-8.TXT in Samba's sources.
Samba seems to load the codepages (if I move any of the relevant
codepage files from /etc/codepages smbstatus says Samba failed to load
the client codepage), but when I try to copy a file with a Hebrew
filename I get weired results -- some letters become "N", some become
".", if I create a new file named New Text Document and rename it to a
Hebrew filename with X letters, it gets renamed to the first X letters
in "New Text Document" (i.e -- "???" becomes "New").
My client is Windows 2K Pro.

What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba
configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them
from?), my Win2K configuration?

Thanks.

Alon Weinstein



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linux at schools

[Ely Levy]

http://www.ofset.org/index.html
is a project to get free software into school,

comments on the chance of it to help israel schools would be apprisiated,
a lot of programs there are usuall ones like apache and a2ps
but some others are educational related.

Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
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Re: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Oleg Goldshmidt]

"Grinberg, Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I am seeking for a program work like Exceed on Win2k for RedHat Linux
> shareware or free.

Hari, it is not 100% clear what you are trying to achieve. My
assumption is that you are trying to access a Linux box from Win2k,
and display X apps running on Linux on your Win2k monitor. This is how
Exceed is normally used.

As others mentioned, start with installing cygwin (this has many other
benefits besides your immediate need). Make sure you install the
XFree86 server that comes with it, and an ssh client (OpenSSH, I
think, is included in cygwin). If in doubt, try "install everything"
or equivalent option.

Once you have everything running, and the Linux box runs sshd and the
firewall (if any) allows access to it, start the cygwin shell and try

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -f xterm

or whatever your fancy is. This should display an xterm on your
monitor.

Disclaimer: I have never tried XFree86 on Windows myself, YMMV.

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RE: Seeking for a program identical to Exceed

[Iftach Hyams]

>> Disclaimer: I have never tried XFree86 on Windows myself, YMMV.
Works great. The only thing missing is non-root environment, which
will be solved soon.




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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Yedidyah Bar-David]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 02:45:42PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works OK except for
> Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried following the
> instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> I added "client code page = 862" & "character set = ISO8859-8" to my
> smb.conf, I had to use make_smbcodepage to create codepage.862 from
> CP862.TXT in Samba's sources (for some reason I didn't have that
> codepage in /etc/codepages) and also to use make_unicodemap to create
> unicode_map.ISO9959-8 from CPISO8859-8.TXT in Samba's sources.
> Samba seems to load the codepages (if I move any of the relevant
> codepage files from /etc/codepages smbstatus says Samba failed to load
> the client codepage), but when I try to copy a file with a Hebrew
> filename I get weired results -- some letters become "N", some become
> ".", if I create a new file named New Text Document and rename it to a
> Hebrew filename with X letters, it gets renamed to the first X letters
> in "New Text Document" (i.e -- "???" becomes "New").
> My client is Windows 2K Pro.
> 
> What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba
> configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them
> from?), my Win2K configuration?

I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 
242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254

Didi

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alon Weinstein
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Alon Weinstein]

> > I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works 
> OK except 
> > for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried 
> following 
> > the instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> > 
> > What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba 
> > configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them 
> > from?), my Win2K configuration?
> 
> I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
> valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 
> 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254
> 
>   Didi
> 
Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the "valid chars"
config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba
2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change.

Any other ideas anyone?


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streaming server

[Ben-Nes Michael]

Hi All

I want to install sreaming server.

My default choise was Microsoft Media Server as to my knowledge non of the
other can support the Microsoft client.

Does any one know of such streaming server that windows media player support
?

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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[voguemaster]

Muli (and others),

Just for the record, examples of problems with ADSL modems such as the Samsung and
others can be easily found in Tapuz's networking and broadband forum.

As for myself, I wouldn't trade my Alcatel for anything right now.. I'm actually going 
to call
199 and buy it from them (costs 240 nis as you know). Not only that would make it MINE,
I would also stop paying for leasing it (20 nis per month, for.. well... ever!).

Eli

19/01/03 10:28:39, Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 10:06:30AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
>
>> If you have Alcatel, then stick with it. Don't replace it (yet).
>
>I have Orckit, and I'm very happy with it thus far. The problem is
>that Bezeq is making noises as though they are replacing their entire
>"Merkaziya", and you have to switch to the Samsung modem. 
>
>> I have heard lots of problems about the Samsung ADSL modem
>(external)
>
>Such as? please be specific, maybe we can solve some of them. 
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Re: streaming server

[Hetz Ben-Hamo]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:49:00 +0200, Ben-Nes Michael wrote
> Hi All
> 
> I want to install sreaming server.
> 
> My default choise was Microsoft Media Server as to my knowledge non 
> of the other can support the Microsoft client.
> 
> Does any one know of such streaming server that windows media player 
> support ?

Real Networks streaming server is a very good solution (specially when it 
comes to scalability), but it costs ;)

Another option that you might want to consider is FFMPEG:

* It's open Source (LGPL)
* It's being developed constantly
* It's trully multi platform
* It supports LOTS of codecs

Feel free to check it out: http://ffmpeg.sf.net

Thanks,
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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Yedidyah Bar-David]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > > I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works 
> > OK except 
> > > for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried 
> > following 
> > > the instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> > > 
> > > What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba 
> > > configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them 
> > > from?), my Win2K configuration?
> > 
> > I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
> > valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 
> > 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254
> > 
> > Didi
> > 
> Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the "valid chars"
> config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba
> 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change.

Did it ever work for you, and stopped working?
We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with hebrew
filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working.
It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba.
You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move
to 2000/XP (which are more complex).

The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a
patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of
CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the
server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side
(assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas).
You can get it from .
BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then
aren't relevant.

> 
> Any other ideas anyone?

Didi


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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Yehuda Drori]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 17:49, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > > > I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works
> > >
> > > OK except
> > >
> > > > for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried
> > >
> > > following
> > >
> > > > the instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> > > >
> > > > What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba
> > > > configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can download them
> > > > from?), my Win2K configuration?
> > >
> > > I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
> > > valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235
> > > 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 253 254
> > >
> > >   Didi
> >
> > Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the "valid chars"
> > config. -- it was used before internationalization was added to Samba
> > 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change.
>
> Did it ever work for you, and stopped working?
> We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with Hebrew
> filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped working.
> It was always a client configuration problem - not on samba.
> You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it works move
> to 2000/XP (which are more complex).
>
> The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also wrote a
> patch that causes samba to save the names in ISO8859-8 (instead of
> CP862), but this is only relevant for reading the files from the
> server (or via NFS) - it never made a change on the client side
> (assuming you do not move between patched and unpatched sambas).
> You can get it from .
> BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I think the changes since then
> aren't relevant.
>
> > Any other ideas anyone?
>
>   Didi
>
>
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Hi..
I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98 workstations ( one day it 
will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the main issues ):
[global]
workgroup = blabbla
netbios name = BLABLABLA
server string = Samba Server %v
encrypt passwords = Yes
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 50
time server = Yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
logon script = %U.bat
domain logons = Yes
os level = 34
preferred master = True
domain master = True
dns proxy = No
printer name = hp940


[finnancit]
comment = Finnacit
path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit
valid users = @accounting
force user = accounting
force group = accounting
read only = No
inherit permissions = Yes

as you can see I'm running a script to map the users net-drives at login time.
I'm forcing all shares to be forced written as a specific user and group. I 
use it for security resones since I'm handling many user groups with diff. 
permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you got some other 
idea don't be shy.. )

all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ...
I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running  in terminal of 
konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run backups and restores 
from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to see those file 
names in Hebrew on my server side.. )

I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a client and it works 
the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running that server as a 
PDC..

hope it will take you some where..

 
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Re: Cannot stat iglu.org.il with apt-get update

[Barry Rabinowitz]

On Saturday 18 January 2003 15:50, you wrote:
> Barry Rabinowitz wrote:
> >On Saturday 18 January 2003 05:56, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>I am using Woody .
> >>>Barry.
> >>
> >>well what the directory name you are trying to get? since 404 means page
> >>not found maybe your directory name is wrong  in my source.list it`s
> >>deb ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian  stable main contrib
> >
> > I am using Debian's non-US mirror for Israel as shown in their list of
> >official mirrors :
> >ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/
> >http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/
> >
> >Maybe it is not correct or maybe I have something wrong here.
>
> What error message you get?

Err http://ftp.iglu.org.il ./ Packages 
404  Not Found
Ign  http://ftp.iglu.org.il
And of course, at the end the listing  that it cannot stat http...


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Re: Cannot stat iglu.org.il with apt-get update

[Barry Rabinowitz]

On Saturday 18 January 2003 17:00, you wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 05:49:32PM -0200, Barry Rabinowitz wrote:
> > I am using Debian's non-US mirror for Israel as shown in their list of
> > official mirrors :
> > ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/
> > http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US/
>
>   Please try again after you wrote the line
>
> deb http://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/Debian-non-US woody/non-US
> main contrib non-free
>
> in /etc/apt/sources.list. Do note that that line might be broken into 2
> lines because of MUA matters. However it should appear as one line in
> the sources.list file.

Thanks,  Adding the woody/non-US etc worked. I just copied the link blindly 
:-)) from the mirror list.  
Barry.

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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader]

Quoth Richard Stallman:

> In fact, I believe that one of the things about the "Open Source" movement
> that scares (or repels) Stallman the most is the fact that is indeed, to
> some degree, a synthesis between the philosophy of free software, and the
> philosophies behind proprietary software.
> 
> It both repels and worries me, and Nadav is right about the reason.
> The open source movement cites the same basic values that proprietary
> software developers cite: making software "better" (in a narrow
> practical sense).  They say nothing about the value of freedom itself,
> or of living an upright life.

The "problem" (with both RMS's and Nadav's) statements of the conundrum
is that they (the statements) are rife with ethical judgments. These
are so closely tied to the personal mores of the parties, that they (RMS
and Nadav) might argue a blue streak speaking on different tracks.

[snip]
> respond, "You failed to deliver on your claim.  You are wrong."  But
> if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software
> movement, he will say, "How dare they do this to us!"

This, in my opinion, is Richard's primary fallacy. I must add, of
course, that the fallacy is NOT Richard's fault. RMS is idealistic and
thinks (and hopes) that homo is indeed sapiens. Of course, he is right
to a degree, but only to a degree. I dispute that the vast majority of
people care or think about their freedom. Oh - they DO think about their
freedom and d care about it, but not really. Not because they do NOT
care about freedom, but because freedom, to be had, MUST be exercised.
And this activity, the exercise of freedom, is something the common homo
sapiens is, mostly, not interested in - it is inconvenient.

> If organizations decide that open source is technically advantageous,
> they may still decide that the advantage of using a popular
> proprietary package is greater.  But when they come to see non-free
> software as a social problem that subjugates them and hurts the whole
> society where it is used, they may make a point of helping society to
> move away from it.

Again, this is an ETHICAL choice. Ethics are often if not almost always
subjugated to the path of least resistance - moral, financial,
ass-covering, what have you.

I am much in agreement with RMS over many issues, but I am completely in
disagreement with him over the issue of the human animal that is willing
to exercise its will to act in an ethical manner.

Marc.

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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Xavier Gentoo]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL
> modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the
> specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well.
>
> Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box,
> not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty?
>
> I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some
> investigating. I'll keep the list posted.

I've seen a Samsung modem. The problem with it is that it had a firmware that 
is specially crafted for Israel (it says so in the manual and the firmware 
itself has -IL tag in the version). The web setup is disabled per Bezeq's 
request, and the modem doesn't have a CLI setup. If we are talking about the 
same modems, AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

General line: Alcatels. Only Alcatels.

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RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Alon Weinstein]

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yedidyah Bar-David
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 PM
> To: Alon Weinstein
> Cc: 'Yedidyah Bar-David'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > > > I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works
> > > OK except
> > > > for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried
> > > following
> > > > the instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> > > > 
> > > > What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba
> > > > configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can 
> download them 
> > > > from?), my Win2K configuration?
> > > 
> > > I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
> > > valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235
> > > 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 
> 250 253 254
> > > 
> > >   Didi
> > > 
> > Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the "valid chars" 
> > config. -- it was used before internationalization was 
> added to Samba 
> > 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change.
> 
> Did it ever work for you, and stopped working?
> We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with 
> hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped 
> working. It was always a client configuration problem - not 
> on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it 
> works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex).

never worked. I've delayed adding other computers to the domain until
this issue is resolved - this is a new installation. I don't have an
option for using Win98 - I must be able to connect Win2K boxes (not
Hebrew localized). Are there any special tweaks you know of in Win2K
that might change something?

> The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also 
> wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in 
> ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for 
> reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a
change on the client side (assuming you do not move between > patched
and unpatched sambas). You can get it from 
. BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I
think the changes since then aren't relevant.

Did I understand correctly? -- this patch won't help me put files from
Win clients to the server, only to fetch them from the server?
I'm using 2.2.7.

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RE: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Alon Weinstein]

> Hi..
> I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98 
> workstations ( one day it 
> will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the 
> main issues ): [global]
> workgroup = blabbla
> netbios name = BLABLABLA
> server string = Samba Server %v
> encrypt passwords = Yes
> log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
> max log size = 50
> time server = Yes
> socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
> logon script = %U.bat
> domain logons = Yes
> os level = 34
> preferred master = True
> domain master = True
> dns proxy = No
> printer name = hp940
> 
> 
> [finnancit]
> comment = Finnacit
> path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit
> valid users = @accounting
> force user = accounting
> force group = accounting
> read only = No
> inherit permissions = Yes
> 
> as you can see I'm running a script to map the users 
> net-drives at login time. I'm forcing all shares to be forced 
> written as a specific user and group. I 
> use it for security resones since I'm handling many user 
> groups with diff. 
> permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you 
> got some other 
> idea don't be shy.. )
> 
> all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ...
> I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running 
>  in terminal of 
> konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run 
> backups and restores 
> from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to 
> see those file 
> names in Hebrew on my server side.. )
> 
> I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a 
> client and it works 
> the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running 
> that server as a 
> PDC..
> 
> hope it will take you some where..
> 
>  

Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even
have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but
it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba
doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I
understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-)

Alon.


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RE: Samsung ADSL modems

[Yakov Broido]

A small correction...
The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a
crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am
pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept
for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isn’t
documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for
E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL. Which
without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box
which cant be configured.


I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty
nice, 
Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never.
They will have to pass me first.


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Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems

On Sunday 19 January 2003 09:19, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> Bezeq just contacted me, saying that they want to replace the ADSL
> modem I am currently using with a Samsung ADSL modem (I don't have the
> specific model yet). The Samusung is NIC based as well.
>
> Anyone using this ADSL modem with Linux? does it work out of the box,
> not work at all, or require a kernel module or some other travesty?
>
> I should be getting it later today or tomorrow and do some
> investigating. I'll keep the list posted.

I've seen a Samsung modem. The problem with it is that it had a firmware
that 
is specially crafted for Israel (it says so in the manual and the
firmware 
itself has -IL tag in the version). The web setup is disabled per
Bezeq's 
rsequest, and the modem doesn't have a CLI setup. If we are talking
about the 
same modems, AVOID AT ALL COSTS.

General line: Alcatels. Only Alcatels.

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why 
don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the
problem 
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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Nadav Har'El]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote about "Re: A response to 
Nadav's message":
> The "problem" (with both RMS's and Nadav's) statements of the conundrum
> is that they (the statements) are rife with ethical judgments. These
>...
> > respond, "You failed to deliver on your claim.  You are wrong."  But
> > if he has learned the value of freedom from the free software
> > movement, he will say, "How dare they do this to us!"
> 
> This, in my opinion, is Richard's primary fallacy. I must add, of
> course, that the fallacy is NOT Richard's fault. RMS is idealistic and
> thinks (and hopes) that homo is indeed sapiens. Of course, he is right
> to a degree, but only to a degree. I dispute that the vast majority of
> people care or think about their freedom. Oh - they DO think about their
> freedom and d care about it, but not really. Not because they do NOT

I think you misunderstood Richard Stallman's point. He's not saying that
everybody cares about their freedom, but rather (if I understood him
correctly) that everybody *should* care about their freedom. In fact, he's
lamenting the fact that too few people think about their own freedom.
He is trying to explain to them why their freedom is important, even though
their government or corporate America is trying to tell them that they are
already free.

Moreover, you are missing Stallman's second point, with which I fully agree:
Support for free software (or "Linux" or "Open Source", or whatever you
prefer to call it) cannot be *only* about the software's quality - we haven't
got to that stage yet.
You said most people don't care about freedom, but similarly most people also
don't care about the "quality" of the software. If people cared about the
quality of their software, do you think Windows would have been such a
success? :)
But even more sadly, in some cases free software is perceived to have lower
quality than proprietary software. Free word processors cannot read MS-Word
files properly (because Microsoft hides the format's specifications, and to
add insult to injury it frequently changes the format). Free operating systems
cannot legally play DVDs or MP3s in the US (because of DMCA and patent issues
respectively). Web-site owners consider free browsers (such as Mozilla,
Konqueror, Lynx, etc.) as inferior and tell us that their sites don't work
for us because of our browsers' "bugs".

Many times, when I talk to someone about using GNU/Linux, they immediately
respond saying that they already have Microsoft Windows, Office,
Adobe Photoshop, etc., and all for free (or as I call it, "free as in
can-be-stolen"). No argument about GNU/Linux's practical quality can
convince them - they are already satisfied (more-or-less) with Windows'
quality, and I would be lying if I told them that they can do on GNU/Linux
everything they were used to doing in Windows, in the way they are used to
doing it. In fact, before a relatively-lengthy learning process, they
will preceive GNU/Linux as having a lower quality than Windows :(
Maybe this will change some day, but that day still hasn't come.

> care about freedom, but because freedom, to be had, MUST be exercised.
> And this activity, the exercise of freedom, is something the common homo
> sapiens is, mostly, not interested in - it is inconvenient.

You know, in the 1960s blacks in some southern US states (Alabama, Arkansas,
etc.) had to live under various segregation laws. They had to sit at the
backs of busses, sit in special places at diners (or forbidden entrance
altogether), and had go to special schools. They certainly felt this lack of
freedom. Do you really believe all that was important to them was to exercise
this freedom? Did they really prefer sitting in the front of the bus?
Would a black feel comfortable in an all-white school? Did they really want
to eat at diners owned by racists and Klan members? Probably not. But they
wanted to have that choice, the same choice that the whites had. They
wanted it really bad. "Let freedom ring from every hill and mole hill of
Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring." Does that ring a
bell? (pun intended :)).

I think you underestimate humans' need for freedom.

Not everybody cares about it, some succumb to false freedoms (like the
freedom to become addicted to consumerism, or the freedom to elect Saddam
at a 99.99% majority), but freedom is definitely an important theme in
human history.

And I don't have to say that freedom is important in an Israeli list - after
all we have a major holiday (Pesach) which is all about our becoming free from
being enslaved at ancient times. We have another major holiday (Hanukka)
celebrating our freedom to practice our religion and the heroic deeds of
the men and women who stood up to those (Greeks, in this case) who tried to
take it away from us. The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates
(if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that
we are told to excercise thou

Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader]

Quoth Nadav Har'El:

> I think you misunderstood Richard Stallman's point. He's not saying that
> everybody cares about their freedom, but rather (if I understood him
> correctly) that everybody *should* care about their freedom. In fact, he's
> lamenting the fact that too few people think about their own freedom.

No, I understood this point. I just fear that this is exatly the
laziness I spoke about - thinking (though in a manner that is not
fleeting) about one's freedom is exercising it (albeit to a very limited
degree).

> Moreover, you are missing Stallman's second point, with which I fully agree:
> Support for free software (or "Linux" or "Open Source", or whatever you
> prefer to call it) cannot be *only* about the software's quality - we haven't
> got to that stage yet.

I am not missing it, I agree with it and therefore have no bones to pick
here. But this step - the "right" thing, the "good" thing being the
norm and, therefore, trivially expected - is the required step in
discussing software quality in a manner detached from other concerns.
Until it is achieved, and I argue that it cannot be achieved before a
significant advancement of human ethics, the only argument that is
easily accepted is that of quality/price. I am not happy with it, but I
can either play the argument game or play with myself (which, I admit,
is what I do, mostly).

> You said most people don't care about freedom, but similarly most people also
> don't care about the "quality" of the software. If people cared about the
> quality of their software, do you think Windows would have been such a
> success? :)

Yes. This for this simple reason:

What is better:
Hige sceal the heardra
or
Mod sceal the mare

You (and most of this list) lack the knowledge to answer the question
(which, by the way is:

What is better:
Spirit shall be the harder
or
Courage the greater)

This is where most people are about computers. They can judge the
(perish the phrase I am typing) surface features but not the (I am going
to wash my hands with sulphuric acid later) the deep structure - cotext
versus context. Most people judge computers on the "Ooh, ah!"
scale. Knowledge is not a goal, knowledge is not an advantage. Knowledge
is a burden and a pain and people do not want it. Yes, I am Augustinian.

> But even more sadly, in some cases free software is perceived to have
> lower quality than proprietary software. Free word processors cannot
> read MS-Word files properly (because Microsoft hides the format's
> specifications, and to add insult to injury it frequently changes the
> format). Free operating systems cannot legally play DVDs or MP3s in
> the US (because of DMCA and patent issues respectively). Web-site
> owners consider free browsers (such as Mozilla, Konqueror, Lynx, etc.)
> as inferior and tell us that their sites don't work for us because of
> our browsers' "bugs".

Are they or are they not bugs? ;-). The answer is "yes" in both cases.
In your, my and RMS's books, they are not bugs. But in the hoi poloi's
mind, they are bugs, "cuz we cunt cee da nise www.peep.co.il sait wid
dis stoopd leeenux."

And, to them, their book is all that matters until and unless (and,
alas, I believe not in change) educating strikes them by accident.

> You know, in the 1960s blacks in some southern US states (Alabama, Arkansas,
> etc.) had to live under various segregation laws. They had to sit at the
> backs of busses, sit in special places at diners (or forbidden entrance
> altogether), and had go to special schools. They certainly felt this lack of
> freedom. Do you really believe all that was important to them was to exercise
> this freedom? Did they really prefer sitting in the front of the bus?
> Would a black feel comfortable in an all-white school? Did they really want
> to eat at diners owned by racists and Klan members? Probably not. But they
> wanted to have that choice, the same choice that the whites had. They
> wanted it really bad. "Let freedom ring from every hill and mole hill of
> Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring." Does that ring a
> bell? (pun intended :)).

First, I submit that freedom and equality are not the same.

I submit that Martin Luther King's idea of equality, Malcolm X's idea of
equality and John Doe's idea of equality were not the same. I also
submit that the difference between a black and a white in 'ole south was
so pronounced that "equality" had tangible advantages. Freedom, in my
opinion, was and is (wrongly) equated with equality.

> I think you underestimate humans' need for freedom.

There is a difference. Need for what kind of freedom? Actual freedom?
Perceived freedom? Perceived is what is required and needed by people.
Actual is what is important. RMS is bucking for actual. I submit that
his ideals are foreign to the general run of mankind (myself, i hasten
to admit, included in great many cases) 

Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Ely Levy]

can we please keep religion topics off the list?
it just get into annoying boring non linux related arguments
which fits more into alt.religion.emacs..


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel



On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote about "Re: A response to Nadav's message":
> > > The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates
> > > (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that
> > > we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are
> > > accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people.
> >
> > I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about
> > exercising freedom of choice.
>
> A common misconception is that freedom requires absolute freedom, with no
> concequences to your choices. This is wrong.
> Freedom always comes with responsibility, to use your freedom properly.
> The fact that you have freedom of speech does not mean that shouting at
> people on the street (or spamming on the net) is nice. The fact that you
> are free to program does not mean that writing computer viruses is good.
> The fact that we have a free market does not make abusing your employees
> a commendable action. The fact that your are free to use your youth to tan
> on the beach instead of studying, doesn't make that a wise move. The
> fact that smoking is perfectly legal doesn't make you live longer if you
> chose to pick up that habit.
>
> Existentialists sometimes relate "freedom" with "nausea". Too much freedom
> isn't always easy for people to accept. I guess they Sartre sees eye-to-eye
> with Marc :)
>
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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

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> Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even
> have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but
> it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba
> doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I
> understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-)

I think you have missed the point. Few people have told you from their
successful experience that you have to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to be able
to have file names in Hebrew. I can witness to it from my experience
(with both W98 and W2000/NT) on samba 2.2.3a (came with RedHat 7.3).

Search the problem in your CLIENT !

BTW. I can see the Hebrew names on Linux too (it is in the 80-9D
 range - DOS encoding - both my in-house emulator and my Emacs
 show these characters as Hebrew).


Ehud.


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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Vadim Vygonets]

Quoth Nadav Har'El on Sun, Jan 19, 2003:
> And I don't have to say that freedom is important in an Israeli list - after
> all we have a major holiday (Pesach) which is all about our becoming free from
> being enslaved at ancient times.

And therefore it's forbidden by law to sell bread in Jewish
neighborhoods in Israel during passover.  Anything else I should
know about freedom?

> We have another major holiday (Hanukka)
> celebrating our freedom to practice our religion and the heroic deeds of
> the men and women who stood up to those (Greeks, in this case) who tried to
> take it away from us.

This one is about victory more than about freedom, methinks.

> The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates
> (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that
> we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are
> accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people.

I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about
exercising freedom of choice.

Vadik.

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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Nadav Har'El]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Official Flamer/Cabal NON-Leader wrote about "Re: A response to 
Nadav's message":
> First, I submit that freedom and equality are not the same.
>...
> Freedom, in my opinion, was and is (wrongly) equated with equality.

I know they are not the same. In some sense they are opposite, and in
other senses, they are related. Who said ethics was an exact science? :)

Go back to Rev. Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech to see if he
was looking for freedom or for equality. Actually it was a bit of both.
He mentions freedom two dozen times: King did not want blacks to be free
because whites are - he wanted them to be free because humans should be free.
But he does mention equality twice, one of them is using the famous quote
from the American declaration of independence: "We hold these truths to be
self-evident: that all men are created equal.", and thus equality plays a
role here too.

As you know, I believe equality plays a role in free-software too... But
I already brought up this subject too many times recently :)

> And most people I know view the DoA as a general indulgence purchase.

Hey, I was talking about Martin Luther King, not Martin Luther :)

> [a lot of R-rated language removed]
> The DoA is the Israeli version of purchase of indulgences.
> And as for God, which God? Were I you, I'd not mention God - that

Note that I gave the religious examples not because I actually practice
those holidays (I am not religious, not that this has anything to do with
this thread), but because these holidays are our (most members of this
list) common heritage. Even as a non-believer I couldn't help but celebrate
the Leil Seder 27 times during my life. I claimed that someone cannot read
a text about freedom 27 times and still think that freedom is not an
important issue. The Israelites in Egypt were not looking for equality -
they did not want to stay in Egypt and enjoy the "pot of meat" together with
the rest of the Egyptians. They wanted to be free to return to their
homeland.

(again, please don't argue whether the exodus story is true or not, or if
god exists or not. It's irrelevant to the issue - which is that freedom is
a major part of our heritage).

> One atones NOT before God. One atones before oneself and
> before the hurt, not before a mythical entity which, when the whim
> strikes it (supposedly) distributes swords in farcical aquatic
> ceremonies.

I think Kant would have a major argument with you (as will, obviously,
any modern religious person) :) But this is getting completely off-topic...

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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Nadav Har'El]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003, Vadim Vygonets wrote about "Re: A response to Nadav's message":
> > The most holy of our holidays, Yom Kippur, celebrates
> > (if one can say that) our freedom to chose our own actions - a freedom that
> > we are told to excercise thoughtfully and carefully, because we are
> > accountable before God for our actions, especially towards other people.
> 
> I'd say that it's not a celebration, but an apology about
> exercising freedom of choice.

A common misconception is that freedom requires absolute freedom, with no
concequences to your choices. This is wrong.
Freedom always comes with responsibility, to use your freedom properly.
The fact that you have freedom of speech does not mean that shouting at
people on the street (or spamming on the net) is nice. The fact that you
are free to program does not mean that writing computer viruses is good.
The fact that we have a free market does not make abusing your employees
a commendable action. The fact that your are free to use your youth to tan
on the beach instead of studying, doesn't make that a wise move. The
fact that smoking is perfectly legal doesn't make you live longer if you
chose to pick up that habit.

Existentialists sometimes relate "freedom" with "nausea". Too much freedom
isn't always easy for people to accept. I guess they Sartre sees eye-to-eye
with Marc :)

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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Yedidyah Bar-David]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:16:12PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yedidyah Bar-David
> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:49 PM
> > To: Alon Weinstein
> > Cc: 'Yedidyah Bar-David'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 03:34:53PM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > > > > I've setup Samba as a PDC for my network. Everything works
> > > > OK except
> > > > > for Hebrew file names -- I just can't make it work. I tried
> > > > following
> > > > > the instructions in the Samba manual & in Iglu.org.il.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What could be the cause of this? Is it a problem with my Samba
> > > > > configuration, my codepages (is there a place I can 
> > download them 
> > > > > from?), my Win2K configuration?
> > > > 
> > > > I think you also need to add to smb.conf this:
> > > > valid chars = 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235
> > > > 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 
> > 250 253 254
> > > > 
> > > > Didi
> > > > 
> > > Thanks Didi, but it didn't work I looked up the "valid chars" 
> > > config. -- it was used before internationalization was 
> > added to Samba 
> > > 2.0 -- it's not obsolete. Either way I tried adding it -- no change.
> > 
> > Did it ever work for you, and stopped working?
> > We had sometimes specific clients that had problems with 
> > hebrew filenames, client-side problems. They simply stopped 
> > working. It was always a client configuration problem - not 
> > on samba. You can try a Localized Hebrew Win98, and after it 
> > works move to 2000/XP (which are more complex).
> 
> never worked. I've delayed adding other computers to the domain until
> this issue is resolved - this is a new installation. I don't have an
> option for using Win98 - I must be able to connect Win2K boxes (not

I do not suggest Win98 as a permanent solution, only as something
which works with Hebrew out-of-the-box.

> Hebrew localized). Are there any special tweaks you know of in Win2K
> that might change something?

Not that I know of, but I didn't configure them.

Something else:
When you create a file, say ".txt", what do
you get in the Samba side
(do 'ls -l --show-control-chars | od -tx1')?
Also, is saving hebrew named files to shares on other Windows machines
(both NT and 9x) work? What do you get on the server (especially in
9x - samba behaves like 9x until 3.0 will be released with unicode)?

Didi

> 
> > The only (relevant) option we use is 'valid chars'. I also 
> > wrote a patch that causes samba to save the names in 
> > ISO8859-8 (instead of CP862), but this is only relevant for 
> > reading the files from the server (or via NFS) - it never made a
> change on the client side (assuming you do not move between > patched
> and unpatched sambas). You can get it from 
> . BTW, we still use samba 2.2.2, but I
> think the changes since then aren't relevant.
> 
> Did I understand correctly? -- this patch won't help me put files from
> Win clients to the server, only to fetch them from the server?
> I'm using 2.2.7.
> 
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Re: A response to Nadav's message

[Oleg Goldshmidt]

"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Who said ethics was an exact science? :)

If memory serves, ethics was one of Aristotle's "noble sciences," but
then I believe it is not referred to appropriately in this discussion,
since Aristotle's ethics was about acceptable interactions between
*two* persons.

An extension of ethics to larger groups, communities, and societies
constitutes another "noble science," called - cough - politics.

Oh, yeah, we wanted to avoid *that*... ;-)


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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Shaul Karl]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote:
> A small correction...
> The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a
> crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am
> pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 , exept
> for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which isn?t
> documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for
> E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL.  


  Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you
get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the
possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the
Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely
to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually
got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web?


> Which
> without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box
> which cant be configured.
> 
> 
> I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty
> nice, 
> Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never.
> They will have to pass me first.
> 


  If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one?

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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Shaul Karl]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 01:42:46PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> 
>(all the modems that 
> Rotal gives are using PPPoA only, some of them [samsung PCI/ITEX can be 
> connected as ANSI or PPPoE).
> 


  Does the PCI here denote an internal PCI ADSL modem? If so, and 
regardless the question of a Linux driver, what is its quality? No Linux
driver I assume?
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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

>   Does the PCI here denote an internal PCI ADSL modem? If so, and
> regardless the question of a Linux driver, what is its quality? No Linux
> driver I assume?

Yeah, but totally different from the Ethernet version. the PCI ADSL modem is 
just a cheap-o Winmodem, nothing more, although it's doing a better job 
compared to Globespan PCI or Dynamode PCI (both of them are really really 
crap, and I would dare to advice to avoid them under ANY cost, as well the 
USB ADSL modems from Rotal - they're very good as a door step, and that how 
much it costs to the ISP's).

I don't know about driver for Linux for the ADSL modem, simply because my boss 
didn't give me any sample to test and play with, but again - GO buy an 
Alcatel, even at eBay, which you can find for $20-$50 a piece.

Thanks,
Hetz


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RE: Samsung ADSL modems

[Yakov Broido]

Well,
To your question : I get to the password prompt when I connect to port
80 of the modem.

I don't know about CLI, I haven't seen any option to reach one, though I
cant remember reading about it in the manual of E300 either... so maybe
it just doesn't exist.
Anyway the manuals are available at Samsungs site



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Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:47 PM
To: Yakov Broido
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems

On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote:
> A small correction...
> The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a
> crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am
> pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 ,
exept
> for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which
isn?t
> documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for
> E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL.  


  Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you
get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the
possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the
Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely
to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually
got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web?


> Which
> without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box
> which cant be configured.
> 
> 
> I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty
> nice, 
> Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never.
> They will have to pass me first.
> 


  If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one?

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Re: Samba server share won't do Hebrew

[Yehuda Drori]

On Sunday 19 January 2003 19:18, Alon Weinstein wrote:
> > Hi..
> > I'm using Samba as a PDC at my work place with win98
> > workstations ( one day it
> > will be upgraded to Linux.. :-) and here is my smb.conf ( the
> > main issues ): [global]
> > workgroup = blabbla
> > netbios name = BLABLABLA
> > server string = Samba Server %v
> > encrypt passwords = Yes
> > log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
> > max log size = 50
> > time server = Yes
> > socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
> > logon script = %U.bat
> > domain logons = Yes
> > os level = 34
> > preferred master = True
> > domain master = True
> > dns proxy = No
> > printer name = hp940
> >
> >
> > [finnancit]
> > comment = Finnacit
> > path = /mnt/s_data/blabla/finnancit
> > valid users = @accounting
> > force user = accounting
> > force group = accounting
> > read only = No
> > inherit permissions = Yes
> >
> > as you can see I'm running a script to map the users
> > net-drives at login time. I'm forcing all shares to be forced
> > written as a specific user and group. I
> > use it for security resones since I'm handling many user
> > groups with diff.
> > permissions ( I couldn't come up with better idea so if you
> > got some other
> > idea don't be shy.. )
> >
> > all win9x stations can read/write Hebrew file names ...
> > I cant see Hebrew file names from the server when I'm running
> >  in terminal of
> > konqueror but it never troubled me as long as I can run
> > backups and restores
> > from tape and everything works fine.. ( could use a tip to
> > see those file
> > names in Hebrew on my server side.. )
> >
> > I'm running Samba on my local net at home with win2k as a
> > client and it works
> > the same ( file names R/W in Hebrew ) though I'm not running
> > that server as a
> > PDC..
> >
^   it works for my WIN2K also
using RH 7.3 on both machines and Samba 2.2.7


> > hope it will take you some where..
>
> Certainly did -- to the valley of the desperation :-) you didn't even
> have to set codepage/character set in your smb.conf and it works :-) but
> it figures, because Win98 doesn't use Unicode, and W2K does, and Samba
> doesn't, so I guess this is the source to all the troubles. BUT -- I
> understand this can be made to work some how. Anyway I hope so :-)
>
> Alon.
>
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Re: Samsung ADSL modems

[Barak Kaufman]

no more war no more bloodshed :)
http://www.fresh.co.il/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=3433&forum=Networking

this is the thread on how to convert your EHT-E300IL to fully functional 
EHT-E300
from personal experience - it works

On Monday 20 January 2003 00:23, Yakov Broido wrote:
> Well,
> To your question : I get to the password prompt when I connect to port
> 80 of the modem.
>
> I don't know about CLI, I haven't seen any option to reach one, though I
> cant remember reading about it in the manual of E300 either... so maybe
> it just doesn't exist.
> Anyway the manuals are available at Samsungs site
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Shaul Karl
> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:47 PM
> To: Yakov Broido
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Samsung ADSL modems
>
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 07:47:56PM +0200, Yakov Broido wrote:
> > A small correction...
> > The modem you are talking about is Samsung E300IL, which as you said a
> > crippled version specificly made for bezeq. The thing is that I am
> > pretty sure that inside its more or less the same modem as E300 ,
>
> exept
>
> > for one thing. Its web consule has a non standard password, which
>
> isn?t
>
> > documented anywhere.. and the only difference between the manual for
> > E300 and E300IL is the lack of web configuration in E300IL.
>
>   Can you actually being asked for the password and that is where you
> get stacked because you can't supply it? Just wondering about the
> possibility to break the password. Xavier Gentoo also said that the
> Samsung lack some CLI setup. Is this another difference or is it likely
> to have this setup menu once the password get broken? Did you actually
> got the E300 manual, perhaps from the web?
>
> > Which
> > without it leaves the modem more or less a black( or a blue ;) ) box
> > which cant be configured.
> >
> >
> > I played with this modem and once I installed pppoe it worked pretty
> > nice,
> > Though still I will never trade my alcatel for this ... never.
> > They will have to pass me first.
>
>   If it is working nicely why wouldn't you give up the Alcatel one?


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