Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:15:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > > Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? > > No no, it's those cheap-o modem, a.k.a Win ADSL modem - totally dumb thing;) > Does that mean that the modem uses the hosting machine hardware for tasks which more expensive modems run on their own hardware? Much like a win modem vs a hardware dial in/out modem? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
> I'm simply thrilled to hear about your success. I've been struggling for a > week now to get my Rotal ALE070 USB ADSL modem to work (obviously without > success). Currently, my computer (Linux partition) will not boot at all if > the modem is plugged in (it gets stuck at "Finding Module Dependencies"). > Will your software also fix this problem, or is mine a different problem? huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their 2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while rebooting, although I heard from people that in some cases the modem mistakenly is recognized as a device which needs the dabusb module, which is clearly a false thing. The only modules stuff that you need is PPP (or built inside your kernel), HDLC, and of course the modules for your USB controllers. I have tested it with UHCI stuff, not OHCI. > Again, many, many thanks - I was about to go out and buy myself a new modem > that connects via a NIC (which I would also need to buy). If you have a choice - go buy the one with the NIC, although it's more expensive (I think 300 NIS or so). > Eagerly awaiting the software and the documentation, > Alexander Maryanovsky. I'm just waiting for a french guy to put the stuff inside the CVS. If everything goes OK, I will post a 0.6pre-something driver. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 15:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 10:15:50AM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > > > Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? > > > > No no, it's those cheap-o modem, a.k.a Win ADSL modem - totally dumb > > thing;) > > Does that mean that the modem uses the hosting machine hardware for > tasks which more expensive modems run on their own hardware? Much like > a win modem vs a hardware dial in/out modem? Exactly. Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their 2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while rebooting, I've tried both RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 with the exact same result - if the modem is plugged in, it gets hung on "Finding Module Dependencies" at boot. although I heard from people that in some cases the modem mistakenly is recognized as a device which needs the dabusb module, which is clearly a false thing. How would I figure out whether that is the case and fix it if it is? Thanks, Alexander Maryanovsky. At 16:24 23.10.2002 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > I'm simply thrilled to hear about your success. I've been struggling for a > week now to get my Rotal ALE070 USB ADSL modem to work (obviously without > success). Currently, my computer (Linux partition) will not boot at all if > the modem is plugged in (it gets stuck at "Finding Module Dependencies"). > Will your software also fix this problem, or is mine a different problem? huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their 2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while rebooting, although I heard from people that in some cases the modem mistakenly is recognized as a device which needs the dabusb module, which is clearly a false thing. The only modules stuff that you need is PPP (or built inside your kernel), HDLC, and of course the modules for your USB controllers. I have tested it with UHCI stuff, not OHCI. > Again, many, many thanks - I was about to go out and buy myself a new modem > that connects via a NIC (which I would also need to buy). If you have a choice - go buy the one with the NIC, although it's more expensive (I think 300 NIS or so). > Eagerly awaiting the software and the documentation, > Alexander Maryanovsky. I'm just waiting for a french guy to put the stuff inside the CVS. If everything goes OK, I will post a 0.6pre-something driver. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 19:50, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: > >huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their > >2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while > > rebooting, > > I've tried both RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 with the exact same result - if > the modem is plugged in, it gets hung on "Finding Module Dependencies" at > boot. Hmm, I'll try Red Hat 8.0 tonight. Thanks for the tip. > >although I heard from people that in some cases the modem mistakenly is > >recognized as a device which needs the dabusb module, which is clearly a > >false thing. > > How would I figure out whether that is the case and fix it if it is? reboot mandrake 9, open konsole and do "tail -f /var/log/messages" (as root) - then plug the modem and see what it's writing on the log. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rotal USB ADSL modem instructions
Hi, This is a "micro" version of how-to to use the Rotal ADSL modem - it's quite simple: 1. Download the CVS snapshot (the driver is ECI ADSL version 0.6pre3) from http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz/usb-adsl-cvs.tar.gz 2. untar (tar zxvf usb-ads-cvs.tar.gz) ; cd into the directory and simply do "make" 3. become root (everything else will be done as root from now on) 3. do: make install 4. run: eciconf.sh - a GUI configuration will pop up. Set the DNS to Bezeq Intl., the ADSL to ASKEY, the VPI to 8, and VCI to 48. Set your username and password, and finally - hit the "Create Config" button. An example screenshot how it should look after configuration is available at: http://www.penguin.org.il/~hetz/adsl.png 5. Connect your USB ADSL modem to your Linux machine. Connect the ADSL phone line to the small "filter". You should see only the power line is turned on, not the "Link" LED. If you see the "Link" LED flashing - disconnect the ADSL modem from the USB, wait 40 seconds, and reconnect. 6. type "startmodem" - the script will upload the firmware to the ADSL modem and will "run" it - this can take between 10-30 seconds, depends on line quality etc. I had various times. After the setup stage it will dial to your ISP negotiate (authentication) and it should have your PPP link up. 7. Before you smile - if you have an ethernet card, do: "add route default ppp0" or else you won't be able to talk to the world. If everything goes ok - you should have by now PPP connection up (do: ifconfig | grep ppp to see it). You can simply check it by doing: ping 194.90.1.6 - it should bring ping results. 8. to kill your PPP connection, either do "ifdown ppp0" or "killall pppd". Now - some notes: 1. I don't have a clue why, but with Bezeq International DNS settings (at least what "dig" gives me - 192.115.106.11, 192.115.106.10) - I get lots of DNS unresolving problems - sites like news.com, www.zdnn.com, and many others are not resolved. Does Bezeq Have other more reliable DNS servers? 2. If you're disconnected suddenly - you won't see it on the "Link" LED. Even if you disconnect the ADSL phone line, you'll see the "Link" LED still on. This is a driver is development stages. 3. I have tested this driver on Red Hat 7.3 and Red Hat 8.0 - with Intel 82801 Chipset for 2 hours - no disconnection problems to me - so your experience maybe different then mine. 4. If you rolled (compiled) your own kernel - then you might need to compile some modules. See the TROUBLESHOOTING file inside the tarball. 5. Before you scream for help - please read the TROUBLESHOOTING file - there are quite few questioned answered there. You can also join #eci channel in irc.openprojects.net - just be polite. 6. The modem start/stop stuff as well as the modem "driver" are still in development stages. Once it will be stabilized, it will be rewritten as a kernel module, and the connection/disconnection will probably become a GUI (unless someone wants to write some KDE/GNOME applet), so I'll update the driver accordingly. Finally - thanks to: * ECI ADSL team - who helped me a lot with all those firmware testings * Katriel who was the first to provide me some space * Meni from Rotal who borrowed me the modem * And of course - to people like Doron, Dvir, Amir, Gilad, Oleg who encouraged me. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
reboot mandrake 9, open konsole and do "tail -f /var/log/messages" (as root) - then plug the modem and see what it's writing on the log. As soon as I plug the modem in, Linux hangs. I will try what you suggested though - maybe it will print something before hanging. Alexander Maryanovsky. At 21:33 23.10.2002 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: On Wednesday 23 October 2002 19:50, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: > >huh?? What linux distribution do you use? I use redhat 7.3 with their > >2.4.18-10 kernel with Intel 82801 chipset - no crashes here while > > rebooting, > > I've tried both RedHat 8.0 and Mandrake 9.0 with the exact same result - if > the modem is plugged in, it gets hung on "Finding Module Dependencies" at > boot. Hmm, I'll try Red Hat 8.0 tonight. Thanks for the tip. > >although I heard from people that in some cases the modem mistakenly is > >recognized as a device which needs the dabusb module, which is clearly a > >false thing. > > How would I figure out whether that is the case and fix it if it is? reboot mandrake 9, open konsole and do "tail -f /var/log/messages" (as root) - then plug the modem and see what it's writing on the log. Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 23:37, Eli Marmor ëúá: > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote: > > This is not accurate. > > What these results mean is that the gcc optimizations for 586 and for > > 686 are not very different. The CPU itself might optimize things quite > > differently, with or without the help of the compiler. > > To see the difference between 586 and 686 you need to measure some > > activity (like konq startup) in both and divide the time by the Mhz. > > You will probably find that for most tests (like this one), the newer > > machine will be much slower, because most of the relevant hardware in > > the machine progressed much less than the CPU. E.g. in a 100Mhz 586 > > you will probably find a disk that is 1.5 times slower (in access time, > > not throuput) than in a 400Mhz 686, so the 686 will come out 3 times > > slower per Mhz, if the measured activity is heavily dependant on the > > access time of the disk. The same is true (with different ratios) for > > disk throuput, RAM access and throuput, etc. who cares about it? I want my box to load in less time... lieave this bs to amd/intels/transmeta analists... > > The real news is not 586 vs. 686; > The real story is both vs. 386. not only, my question is: will I get more speed (less latency actually) if i"ll compile everything for 686? > And please don't argue with me (Ira - you too); > I responded to Diego. > I assume that his results are accurate. not too much, don't count on this. > And in any case, he didn't compare two different computers with > different disks/RAM/etc.; > He compared 386 performance with 586/686, ON THE SAME COMPUTER. > So there is no excuse for getting better results with the 386 > compilation. > It's not the disk/RAM/etc.; > It's the CPU, stupid! ;-) or the s/w. Please have in mind that kde2.2.2 and kde3.1 are written very differently. In kde 2.2.2 the part that took the most time in "botting kde" was loading the window manager, while in kde3.1 was the peripherals phase (which took I think 4-6 secs while in kde2.2.2 1 sec) > If his results are right (Ira, please notice the word "if" and similar > words that were used in my previous message), then it means that no > progress has been achieved in the microprocessor industry for 15 years, > except for more and more Hertz's. again please read the message I sent you in private, you will see my point of view. I started gentooing my mdk after the last debate on gentoo in which Tzafrir proposed the same he proposing now: optimize 20% of the package which do 80% of the work and get almost the same results. Tzafrir: have you done it somewhere? (Next in list are glibc, which I will be cool to update, xfree, bash (if scripts handling getting faster on new version?). If anyone can comment on compiling srpms of those packages please post your observations). - diego To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 11:32, Ira Abramov ëúá: > Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Tue, 22 Oct: > because some people prefer "plain vanilla" with no extra optimizations. > that's what Gentoo is for - for the people who DO. > > and you'll be surprised, ppl still run a few 486 machines here and > there. not for desktop machines, the debate here is about desktops. In kdelibs mailing list there was an intersting debate on that subject. > > But the real mystery is the amazing results that Diego achieved ON THE > > SAME COMPUTER; If 386-compiled executables run faster than 586-compiled > > and 686-compiled, then RH decision is clear and understood, but the > > amazing results are less understood. > > > > Anybody from Intel to explain how it is possible? > > ofcourse. the binary could be in the cache, or some libraries needed to > swap out, or some random daemon to be started... the first start is > always slower than the following. there are 501 parameters that can > influence this, and the test was not done in laboratory conditions. > > what's your obsession with his results? I tried it a few times, after a while it got shorter, but I do think that this is the normal ammount of time I spend looking at ksplash. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > does here). > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office > (celleron 400 + 256MB) running kde 3.0.4, not to the hardware you describe. > > Konqy (3.1 from cvs) on my home machine (P3 866 512MB) starts in 1sec. > > I doubt that you'll see much improvement going from i585 to i686 in compile > flags. For kde's performance (and other C++ code) it is advised to use > binutils which enables -combreloc by default, and use gcc3 for the compile. -combreloc ? that's new to me? can you give me an fmtr? > Since you're using athlon xp, gcc 3.2 (or 3.1.1) can optimize for this > specific CPU (-march=athlon-xp). I also apply other optimzation (there's a > very long thread about it in Gentoo's forums called CFLAGS central). I tried gcc 3.2 from mdk 9.0. I took the srpm and recompiled it for my distro (had to hack the spec a little for avoiding builing some packages). I compiled qt, kde and the damm thing did not work, so I cleaned the dirs and recompiled, after a few hours the same thing. QT worked flwalesly, but I had dcop problems. I upgraded my binutils to binutils-2.12.90.0.15-1mdk (again recompiled from srpms to i686). I think I will install gcc3.2 again (I need to remove gcc2.96 for that, since they overwrite some files, and I will need to tweak config file s a little) and see what happens. - diego To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
Hi,
On Wed, Oct 23, 2002 at 11:07:49PM +0200, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> áéåí ùðé 21 àå÷èåáø 2002, 23:37, Eli Marmor ëúá:
> > Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
> > > This is not accurate.
> > > What these results mean is that the gcc optimizations for 586 and for
> > > 686 are not very different. The CPU itself might optimize things quite
> > > differently, with or without the help of the compiler.
> > > To see the difference between 586 and 686 you need to measure some
> > > activity (like konq startup) in both and divide the time by the Mhz.
> > > You will probably find that for most tests (like this one), the newer
> > > machine will be much slower, because most of the relevant hardware in
> > > the machine progressed much less than the CPU. E.g. in a 100Mhz 586
> > > you will probably find a disk that is 1.5 times slower (in access time,
> > > not throuput) than in a 400Mhz 686, so the 686 will come out 3 times
> > > slower per Mhz, if the measured activity is heavily dependant on the
> > > access time of the disk. The same is true (with different ratios) for
> > > disk throuput, RAM access and throuput, etc.
> who cares about it? I want my box to load in less time... lieave this bs to
> amd/intels/transmeta analists...
I generally agree - but I think, as others said, the most gain will be
from not linking/compiling features you do not need. And personally,
almost all the things I use regularly (X server, fvwm, xterms+bashes,
lynx) do not have enough features I do not need to make it worth
compiling them myself.
The biggest gain for me will probably be to read lynx's doc and find
how to make it not stop for two seconds every time it shows an error
message :-)
> >
> > The real news is not 586 vs. 686;
> > The real story is both vs. 386.
> not only, my question is: will I get more speed (less latency actually) if
> i"ll compile everything for 686?
>
> > And please don't argue with me (Ira - you too);
> > I responded to Diego.
> > I assume that his results are accurate.
> not too much, don't count on this.
>
> > And in any case, he didn't compare two different computers with
> > different disks/RAM/etc.;
> > He compared 386 performance with 586/686, ON THE SAME COMPUTER.
> > So there is no excuse for getting better results with the 386
> > compilation.
> > It's not the disk/RAM/etc.;
> > It's the CPU, stupid! ;-)
> or the s/w. Please have in mind that kde2.2.2 and kde3.1 are written very
> differently. In kde 2.2.2 the part that took the most time in "botting kde"
> was loading the window manager, while in kde3.1 was the peripherals phase
> (which took I think 4-6 secs while in kde2.2.2 1 sec)
>
> > If his results are right (Ira, please notice the word "if" and similar
> > words that were used in my previous message), then it means that no
> > progress has been achieved in the microprocessor industry for 15 years,
> > except for more and more Hertz's.
> again please read the message I sent you in private, you will see my point of
> view.
>
> I started gentooing my mdk after the last debate on gentoo in which Tzafrir
> proposed the same he proposing now: optimize 20% of the package which do 80%
> of the work and get almost the same results. Tzafrir: have you done it
> somewhere?
>
> (Next in list are glibc, which I will be cool to update, xfree, bash (if
> scripts handling getting faster on new version?). If anyone can comment on
If your scripts are posix-sh compliant, and do not need bashisms, you
might consider making /bin/sh a link to ash (now renamed to dash -
I think it was abandoned by upstream (netbsd?) and adopted by Debian).
It's much smaller than bash, depends on fewer libraries, and is faster
(mostly in load time - haven't checked runtime performance).
At least in Debian, it's an optional /bin/sh, and Debian makes sure
all their /bin/sh scripts will work with it (and any other POSIX shell).
A trivial demonstration of performance:
~ 617 % :|awk 'END {for (i=0; i<100; i++) \
printf("bash -c \"echo %s > /dev/null\"\n", i)}' | time bash
0.67user 0.46system 0:01.12elapsed 100%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (23430major+4842minor)pagefaults 0swaps
~ 616 % :|awk 'END {for (i=0; i<100; i++) \
printf("ash -c \"echo %s > /dev/null\"\n", i)}' | time bash
^^^
0.28user 0.28system 0:00.55elapsed 101%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata
0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (10630major+3443minor)pagefaults 0swaps
(that is, about two times faster for 100 loads+builtin echos).
(And ash somehow squeezes another percent off my 300 Mhz Celeron :-)
Probably a rounding error in 'time')
(Yes. /usr/bin/time doesn't go above 100% - it's bash's time builtin).
BTW - I do not recommend ash as an interactive shell except of in
emergency. bash is far better.
One more thing: Xfree86 4.x is modular - you can decide which modules
to load in XF86Config. Don't load what you don't need and tell us
if you saved a significant amount of time.
> compiling srpms of those packages please po
Re: Gentoo
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 20:35, Diego Iastrubni wrote: > áéåí ùìéùé 22 àå÷èåáø 2002, 02:08, Meir Kriheli ëúá: > > Something gone wrong here. kde 3.X should load faster than 2.2.2 (and it > > does here). > > > > This times are closer to the Gentoo I run on a machine at the office > > (celleron 400 + 256MB) running kde 3.0.4, not to the hardware you > > describe. > > > > Konqy (3.1 from cvs) on my home machine (P3 866 512MB) starts in 1sec. > > > > I doubt that you'll see much improvement going from i585 to i686 in > > compile flags. For kde's performance (and other C++ code) it is advised > > to use binutils which enables -combreloc by default, and use gcc3 for the > > compile. > > -combreloc ? that's new to me? can you give me an fmtr? It replaces the old (non standart) method of objprelinking used in previous generations of KDE with a standart one integrated with binutils (ld). glibc 2.3 should include better support for it as well IIRC. It should mostly affect startup times. This is from the intro part of the old LFS hint about combreloc (see http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/old/combreloc.txt ). Introduction Recent versions of binutils (actually its ld) include a new option that reaps the same loading improvements as objprelink of KDE fame, but for all programs compiled by it. As a general rule you can expect around 20% to 30% faster loading times. I personally have had no problems compiling *EVERYTHING* on my system with it (including gcc, glibc, etc). I apply other optimization as well to my system including -fomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -falign-functions=4 etc. Note that this will result in larger binaries/libs. -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 12:51:27AM +, Meir Kriheli wrote: > I apply other optimization as well to my system including > -fomit-frame-pointer > -funroll-loops -falign-functions=4 etc. Note that this will result in larger > binaries/libs. At least the 'omit-frame-pointer' part might make debugging those binaries a pain in the a**. Then again, I doubt you compile with -g at all ;-) -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sctrace strace /bin/foo http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ Quis custodes ipsos custodiet? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange Bind messages
Title: Strange Bind messages Hello list, I have significant amount of the below messages in /var/log/messages for Bind: client 10.106.3.15#3771: updating zone 'xx.com/IN': update failed: 'RRset exists (value dependent)' prerequisite not satisfied (NXRRSET): 1 Time(s) All the clients are the internal w2k machines, and i have about 10 IPs. What "update" stands for ? It is not zone transfer. Also, i did not find anything suspicious on the client machines at least none has DNS server installed :-) Would appreciate any assistance, == Evgeny Popov Network and Security Administrator Phone: 972-9-9594995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tecnomatix Tecnologies Ltd. == "Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are." Anonymous ** ** eSafe-IL scanned this outgoing email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** **
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
Hez, I would be glad to host these file along with the adsl-howto. that will be in http://damyen.technion.ac.il/~dani Dani On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: > Hi People, > > I have been asked by Rotal Management to support their ALE070 USB modem (the > blue modem).. > > After 3 hours of playing, removing, installing etc it works on Red Hat 7.3 > with Red Hat's kernel (you need to compile some stuff if you build your > kernel) and I'm sending this email right now with this connection. > > Surprisingly, at the moment you don't need any additional kernel modules which > are outside the kernel, so I think SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake prebuilt kernel > should do the trick and the modem is using some UML (user mode Linux) tricks > to make it work. > > I have tested it only on my Intel bases USB chipset (Intel 82801), so if you > have VIA chipset your results might be different then mine (VIA 3038 and this > modem have tons of problems with Windows). > > As for configuring the modem to work - there will be a GUI (tcl/tk GUI) which > you'll need to type your username , password, > and select ASKEY/Rotal.com modem, and type your DNS numbers (since this modem > is given to all ISP's), and after that you can dial with a "startmodem" (as > root) script which is provided. Terminating connection can be done with the > usual kill command (or by a script you can write). > > My questions: > > 1. Could someoneprovide me some space to host the files? (so people can > access it using browser) > 2. Should I merge the text explaining everything inside the Bezeq-ADSL-howto? > 3. Anyone wants to write a GTK/QT front end in hebrew for the scripts? > > The modificationsare going to be rolled into the eci adsl package. The > default DNS values are from Bezeq International. Hope it's ok by everyone > (they can be changed of course) - so if someone could provide me with some > space - I hope I'll publish a URL with the tarball, although it will be only > available tommorow since those modifications are not rolled into the CVS yet. > > Thanks, > Hetz > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
Hetz wrote: > > Surprisingly, at the moment you don't need any additional kernel modules which > > are outside the kernel, so I think SuSE, Red Hat, Mandrake prebuilt kernel > > should do the trick and the modem is using some UML (user mode Linux) tricks > > to make it work. Huh? That makes no sense. If it works, it's probably because it's using one of the "generic" modules supplied with the kernel. Could you find out which? I'm willing to bet that UML doesn't have anything to do with it in this case. > > As for configuring the modem to work - there will be a GUI (tcl/tk GUI) which > > you'll need to type your username , password, > > and select ASKEY/Rotal.com modem, and type your DNS numbers (since this modem > > is given to all ISP's), and after that you can dial with a "startmodem" (as > > root) script which is provided. Terminating connection can be done with the > > usual kill command (or by a script you can write). Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? > > My questions: > > > > 1. Could someoneprovide me some space to host the files? (so people can > > access it using browser) What exactly do you want hosted? > > 2. Should I merge the text explaining everything inside the > > Bezeq-ADSL-howto? That will certainly not hurt. > > The modificationsare going to be rolled into the eci adsl package. The Which modifications? -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sctrace strace /bin/foo http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ Quis custodes ipsos custodiet? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SUCCSESS: Rotal ADSL USB modem
> Huh? That makes no sense. If it works, it's probably because it's > using one of the "generic" modules supplied with the kernel. Could you > find out which? I'm willing to bet that UML doesn't have anything to > do with it in this case. it's uploading some .bin file into the modem, resets the modem, and then uses PPP kernel modules (with HDLC) to connect with the user/pass and vpi, vci (8,48). > > > As for configuring the modem to work - there will be a GUI (tcl/tk GUI) which > > > you'll need to type your username , password, > > > and select ASKEY/Rotal.com modem, and type your DNS numbers (since this modem > > > is given to all ISP's), and after that you can dial with a "startmodem" (as > > > root) script which is provided. Terminating connection can be done with the > > > usual kill command (or by a script you can write). > > Is this another modem that does NAT on its own? No no, it's those cheap-o modem, a.k.a Win ADSL modem - totally dumb thing;) > > > My questions: > > > > > > 1. Could someoneprovide me some space to host the files? (so people can > > > access it using browser) > > What exactly do you want hosted? The dialers, config, bin files that the modem needs. > > > 2. Should I merge the text explaining everything inside the > > > Bezeq-ADSL-howto? > > That will certainly not hurt. OK. > > > The modificationsare going to be rolled into the eci adsl package. The > > Which modifications? * Added USB id's * Added Bezeq International's DNS to the config (can be modified easily) * Added ASKEY/Rotal selecting to the config * Added Israeli vpi/vci to the config Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange Bind messages
On Wednesday 23 October 2002 10:55, FW Admin wrote: > Hello list, > > > I have significant amount of the below messages in /var/log/messages for > Bind: > > client 10.106.3.15#3771: updating zone 'xx.com/IN': update failed: > 'RRset exists (value dependent)' prerequisite not satisfied (NXRRSET): 1 > Time(s) > > > All the clients are the internal w2k machines, and i have about 10 IPs. > What "update" stands for ? It is not zone transfer. Also, i did not find > anything suspicious on the client machines at least none has DNS server > installed :-) > > > Hello FW(Or is it Mr. Admin?), I would assume what you're seeing in the logs is the failed attempts of your client machine's DNS update messages. This is of course, not a Bind issue, but a W2k issue. The W2k workstations, being naturally insecure about themselves, want to see their hostnames in your Bind DB files (Much like young hoodlums spraying their names on public walls). Uncheck the "Register this machine's name in the DNS"(or something similar to that line) checkbox in the Advanced TCP/IP propetries's DNS tab. Amir. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
To summarize the thread, let me repeat something which I wrote in personal, and expand: (convention: iXXX refers to compilation, while XXX refers to the CPU itslef): 1. i586 is superior to i386, in any case (of course assuming the CPU is 586 or up...). 2. i686 is superior to i586, only when multimedia instructions are involved. 3. Under AMD, i686 requires more resources and performs slower, because it involves extra emulation, so it may perform slower, especially if no MMX instructions can be used. 4. Diego compared i586 with i686, not both with i386. Otherwise, his results would be different (see 1...). 5. Since the default of most distros is i386 (including RH), most of us understood (mistakenly) that he compared i586/i686 with i386, and the thread went larger. 6. The reason for the "reverse" results of Diego: see 2 and 3. 7. When Gentoo mentioned the number "20%" regarding improvment, it assumed: a. Intel 686 or up is used (not AMD). b. "20%" is compared to i386 (which is the default under most distros including RH) and not i586 (under Mandrake etc.). Of course, some apps (like the kernel) are already compiled for best results, even under RH. c. Under "laboratory conditions" (assuming the main bottleneck is the CPU). d. "20%" is not the average improvements. Conclusion: === 1. If you use Intel, compile for the highest architecture you can. But don't expect to get more than i586 would give you, because usually there is no advantage for i686 over i586 (only in specific cases). 2. If you use AMD (or Transmeta/Geode?), compile for i586 even if you have i686-compatible processor (e.g. Athlon etc.). Questions: == 1. Does anybody have results under VMware? (I'm not sure that the virtualization is optimal for i586/i686) 2. Has anybody experienced the Intel C Compiler? (not GCC) I heard that its results are amazing... -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gentoo
Quoting Eli Marmor, from the post of Thu, 24 Oct: > 2. If you use AMD (or Transmeta/Geode?), compile for i586 even if you >have i686-compatible processor (e.g. Athlon etc.). why not compile for athlon? I thought gcc knows how to optimize for it... -- |)0|\|7 /\/\355 \/\/1|O /\/\'/ /\/\4|) 5|<1llz Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. msg22743/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
