RE: ibm thinkpad t20 experiences

2001-01-16 Thread Karasik, Vitaly


I installed RH 7.0 for my colleague on T20. It seems to be very comfortable.
The only installation problem I had was Lucent winmodem, but new (5.78, I
think) ltmodem module works fine.

See http://808hi.com/56k/ltwin3.htm
http://www.cir.nus.edu.sg/~lzs/linux_t20.html  LINUXCARE report
http://www.linuxcare.com/labs/certs/padt20.epl

Vitaly.

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Yudit 2.0 Unicode editor

2001-01-16 Thread Itamar Shtull-Trauring

Yudit 2 has "Experimental right-to-left writing support". Get it at
http://www.yudit.org.

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Re: mail relay

2001-01-16 Thread Henry Ficher

Tal Amir wrote:

> hi list,
> 
> i guess this would be a dumb question, but how do you make a sendmail
> stop relaying for outside users ? my mail-server is being used by outside
> and unknown users, which overload the system and the bandwidth.
> 
> could someone point me to the configuration file ? i could not find
> anything in /etc/sendmail.cf
> 
> thanks.

What version of Sendmail you're using? As of Sendmail 8.9, relaying is 
disabled by default, so if your version is older than that you should 
upgrade immediately.

Take a look at http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html for more info.


Cheers,

Henry


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Re: kernel 2.4.0

2001-01-16 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

mike ray wrote:

> im running rh 6.2 with kernel 2.2.18. 
> 
> After i finish the copilation of 2.4.0 seting the LILO, etc..etc..i cant
> boot from this kernel, i get a message - UNCOMPRESSING LINUX.OK,
> BOOTING THE KERNEL,
> 
> than its stuck, nothing moves at all. 
> 
> anyone with an idea ??? 
> 
> mike 

Make sure you are compiling a kernel for the machine you are running it
on. For example if it is a pentium (not PII, PIII, etc) or an AMD
processor, don't compile it for a 686.

Geoff.

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Re: Shared memory

2001-01-16 Thread guy keren


On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

> 1. What does the 'Shared memory' reading (/proc/meminfo) indicate?
>  Simple IPC shared memory?

my _guess_ is that this indicates the ammount of memory that is placed in
shared memory regions (either allocated using a shmat() call, or allocated
by the dynamic loader, for code segments of binaries/libraries).

> 2. If two processes owned by the same user load a shared library,
>  does the library load twice or only once?
>  And what about two processes with different owners?

if two library loads are made using the same absolute path, then they both
use shared _code_ segments (marked as read only and exetueable, by the
virtual memory system), and these segments are shared by all processes
using these libraries, regardless of UID and other permissions.

if you copy a shared library to a different disk location and make a
process use it, by changing the LD_LIBRARY_PATH, then when its run, a new
copy of the code pages in memory will be made.

data segments allocated by a library's code are never shared, except for
on the sharing done during a fork() system call (you know how form works,
i assume. if not - man fork).

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Re: Confusing Mirrors

2001-01-16 Thread guy keren


On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Omer Zak wrote:

> I am looking for a version of glib >= 1.2.7 and gcc >= 2.95.
> I started browsing the mirrors at
> ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/, and quickly got confused.

when you want official info - look at the code's "owner" web site. with gc
- it's somewhere under www.gnu.org . with glib - i don't remember -
perhaps www.gnome.org .

> I remember that there was some stench about gcc version 2.96 or something.

no stench about gcc 2.96, but rather about redhat 7.0 . gcc's latest
official version (as far as i'm still updated) is 2.95 . 2.96 is a
developmenet version that is known to be broken. redhat people just seem
to have been too trigger-happy and installed it before checking what it
was. i guess it's also a "bug" with gcc's people, that didn't call it
2.96pre or something similar. this "version" cannot compile the linux
kernel.

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Re: kernel 2.4.0

2001-01-16 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:05:24AM +0200, mike ray wrote:
> After i finish the copilation of 2.4.0 seting the LILO, etc..etc..i cant boot from 
>this kernel, i get a message - UNCOMPRESSING LINUX.OK, BOOTING THE KERNEL,
> than its stuck, nothing moves at all.

Are you sure you compiled it for the right CPU type?
A Pentium III-optimized kernel will not boot on a Pentium II CPU etc.

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Re: bidi-mozilla 20010109

2001-01-16 Thread yossia



I wish to thank all who have made it possible, to have that Hebrew
support in Mozilla.

For a long time now I've been hearing that there is bidi ... - This
time it actually works - Thanks to you and others who had put the
effort.

Now I can stick to Linux 99.9% of the time (At home
at least), not to mentioned my wife's complains "why we can't be reading
Hebrew like normal people over the web" ... :-) .

Thanks again.

p.s. - I'm still using the previous version compiled about a month
ago, I'll try this update soon).

p.s.2 - Is there any way to speed up the behavior of Mozilla ? - some
turbo switch or something ? ( P-II 233MHz, 128MB RAM)

Yossi A.

Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> I built the latest sources from
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/ps/products/warpzilla/bidi-source-01-09-2001.zip
> 
> You can find it at:
> ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Netscape/mozilla-bidi-20010109-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
> 
> As always: 
> * not much tested
> * built on mandrake 7.2 (gcc 2.95-2, XFree4, etc.)
> 
> Build options:
> /configure --enable-bidi --enable-cpp-rtti --disable-tests \
> --disable-debug --enable-strip-lib --enable-cpp-exceptions  \
> --enable-mathml --enable-svg
> 
> (I'm not sure those are the smartest of the options, but those are what I
> used)
> 
> If you want to build that on you own, refer to the instructions in the
> mozilla.i18n . Two spesific pitfalls:
> 
> * don't forget to use 'upzip -a' unstead of 'upzip'
> * don't forget to remove the current 'configure' and run autoconf
> 
> The tarball is substaintially bigger than the previous one. I don't know
> why.
> 
> Enjoy
> 
> -- 
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Re: Confusing Mirrors

2001-01-16 Thread mulix

hi guy,

the information below is not entirely correct. 
the official statement from the gcc project is available at:
http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-2.96.html
i have been unable to find redhat's official response to this issue, but
have seen it before. short sum (be warned that my memory sometimes has
parity errors, so i might be mistaken): they made a business decision,
they didn't fork the gcc tree but rather took a development branch for
its enhanced c++ abilities and tested it internally before releasing.
also, any patches they made for it are fed back to the main tree. so
it's not exactly a black and white issue "redhat is evil". 

none of the above of course means that you would catch me even having a
redhat7.0 cd near one of my machines. 

guy keren wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Omer Zak wrote:
> 
> > I remember that there was some stench about gcc version 2.96 or something.
> 
> no stench about gcc 2.96, but rather about redhat 7.0 . gcc's latest
> official version (as far as i'm still updated) is 2.95 . 2.96 is a
> developmenet version that is known to be broken. redhat people just seem
> to have been too trigger-happy and installed it before checking what it
> was. i guess it's also a "bug" with gcc's people, that didn't call it
> 2.96pre or something similar. this "version" cannot compile the linux
> kernel.
> 
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Re: kernel 2.4.0

2001-01-16 Thread Sagi Bashari

You probably didn't set your processor type as well. change it under
'Processor type and features'

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, mike ray wrote:

> im running rh 6.2 with kernel 2.2.18.
>
> After i finish the copilation of 2.4.0 seting the LILO, etc..etc..i cant
> boot from this kernel, i get a message - UNCOMPRESSING LINUX.OK, BOOTING
> THE KERNEL,
> than its stuck, nothing moves at all.
>
> anyone with an idea ???
>
> mike
>

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Re: Hebrew

2001-01-16 Thread Oren Held

Hello David

What's your XFree version ?

About writing in hebrew, you can use kde's 'International keyboard layout'
(in KDE 1 it was in k menu -> system). or just run kikbd.

Cya,
Oren.

On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David Hananel wrote:

> I have RH 6.2, KDE 2, kernel 2.4.0, and I would like to install hebrew TTF
> fonts from windows, and to be able to write in hebrew.
> Untill now I had elmars fonts, and the hebrew package at KDE and it was
> nice.
> But now I would like to put not-ugly fonts (sorry elmar fonts' creators),
> and to be able to write hebrew with my hebrew keboard.
> I copied the ttf fonts from /mnt/hd/windows/fonts to /fonts, and made
> everything by Tzafrir's explanation at IOL's linux forum.
> But when I look at the fonts in my system, I see nothing new...
> 
> Does someone know why I can't install the ttf-hebrew-windows-fonts? And how
> can I write in hebrew?


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Re: Confusing Mirrors

2001-01-16 Thread Ely Levy

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, guy keren wrote:

|  
|  On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Omer Zak wrote:
|  
|  > I am looking for a version of glib >= 1.2.7 and gcc >= 2.95.
|  > I started browsing the mirrors at
|  > ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/distributions/, and quickly got confused.
|  
|  when you want official info - look at the code's "owner" web site. with gc
|  - it's somewhere under www.gnu.org . with glib - i don't remember -
|  perhaps www.gnome.org .
|  
glibc is also in www.gnu.org

|  > I remember that there was some stench about gcc version 2.96 or something.
|  
|  no stench about gcc 2.96, but rather about redhat 7.0 . gcc's latest
|  official version (as far as i'm still updated) is 2.95 . 2.96 is a
|  developmenet version that is known to be broken. redhat people just seem
|  to have been too trigger-happy and installed it before checking what it
|  was. i guess it's also a "bug" with gcc's people, that didn't call it
|  2.96pre or something similar. this "version" cannot compile the linux
|  kernel.

Actually 2.96 is a redhat version, I mean they wrote the changes in and
it's not offcial test even it's not broken anymore the only problem is
that they added some stuff to the STL and namespace. and they made it much
stricker by default.
it can't compile the kernel as guy said 

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Re: Confusing Mirrors

2001-01-16 Thread Moshe Zadka

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Ely Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> |  > I am looking for a version of glib >= 1.2.7 and gcc >= 2.95.

> glibc is also in www.gnu.org

Try to read the question before you reply. Omer asked about Glib,
you answered about Glibc. Those are two different libraries!

BTW:
Your mailer has a bug, it doesn't add the references of the message
you reply too, as RFC822 mandates.
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Re: Yudit 2.0 Unicode editor

2001-01-16 Thread Oren Held

Hello Itamar

Hehe I was sure 'yudit' is hebrew, because of its name..
Anyway..Did you succeed writing in hebrew with it ?
I cannot type with hebrew characters in there, it ignores them, and when I
type with english characters but choose hebrew it works, but the hebrew
characters are not the correct ones, for some reason...

Cya,
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Re: Hebrew

2001-01-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

Hi david

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Oren Held wrote:

> Hello David

> About writing in hebrew, you can use kde's 'International keyboard layout'
> (in KDE 1 it was in k menu -> system). or just run kikbd.

Yes, but David has kde2, which does not have kikbd. Please refer to
http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html for something that works
(although not entirely straight-forward)

Also refer to the archives of this list, as this topic has been discussed
here recently.

And, of course, take care to avoid problems with the locale:
http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/85.html

> On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David Hananel wrote:
> 
> > I have RH 6.2, KDE 2, kernel 2.4.0, and I would like to install hebrew TTF
> > fonts from windows, and to be able to write in hebrew.
> > Untill now I had elmars fonts, and the hebrew package at KDE and it was
> > nice.
> > But now I would like to put not-ugly fonts (sorry elmar fonts' creators),
> > and to be able to write hebrew with my hebrew keboard.
> > I copied the ttf fonts from /mnt/hd/windows/fonts to /fonts, and made
> > everything by Tzafrir's explanation at IOL's linux forum.
> > But when I look at the fonts inmy system, I see nothing new...

what do you mean?

what about:
xlsfonts -fn '-*-iso8859-8'

(better pipe that to less or something)

If you don't see any interesting here:

Was the directory added to the font path of the fonts server?

See /etc/X11/fs/config

If that xfs is giving you hard time, try using xfstt instead:

http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/134.html

(I haven't yet managed to write a page about redhat's xfs or XFree4's TTF
support, and anyway: xfstt is small and easy to setup)

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Re: bidi-mozilla 20010109

2001-01-16 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

Hi Tzafrir,

On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:07:43PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> You can find it at:
> ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Netscape/mozilla-bidi-20010109-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz

First of all, thanks. Been working with your compiled version all day
and it seems to be very good.

One bug I found - set character set to "iso-8859-8" and it'll reverse
English too! Already added to the Bugzilla.

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Re: bidi-mozilla 20010109

2001-01-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

Hi

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:

> Hi Tzafrir,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:07:43PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> > You can find it at:
> > 
>ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Netscape/mozilla-bidi-20010109-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz
> 
> First of all, thanks. Been working with your compiled version all day
> and it seems to be very good.

Thanks. Although I simply built it. The IBM folks are really the ones who
desrve your thanks.

> 
> One bug I found - set character set to "iso-8859-8" and it'll reverse
> English too! Already added to the Bugzilla.

I'm not near my machine right now, so I can't check this.

Anyway: generally bugs with the bidi mozilla should be reported to the
netscape.public.mozilla.i18n group (I CC this message to their mailing
list)

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Re: Yudit 2.0 Unicode editor

2001-01-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Oren Held wrote:

> Hello Itamar
> 
> Hehe I was sure 'yudit' is hebrew, because of its name..
> Anyway..Did you succeed writing in hebrew with it ?
> I cannot type with hebrew characters in there, it ignores them, and when I
> type with english characters but choose hebrew it works, but the hebrew
> characters are not the correct ones, for some reason...

Its existing keymap is again the "Israeli phonetic" one. I thought we got
over this one.

I attach a rewritten map that *should* work. It is *totally untested*.
Please try it, and if it works, please report it to the yudit developers.

One other thing: yudit may be the first production software on linux to
support bedirectional user input. Read doc/Yudit.bidi.txt and try playing
with mixed hebrew-english hebrew input. See if it feels "natural". Try to
think where yudit's behaviour should be changed.

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-- File: Hebrew.kmap

// Hebrew.kmap for Yudit
// 1998-06-17 Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

// Changed from the il_phonetic map to the standard israeli map by 
// Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"t=0x05D0", // א = HEBREW LETTER ALEF
"c=0x05D1", // ב = HEBREW LETTER BET
"d=0x05D2", // ג = HEBREW LETTER GIMEL
"s=0x05D3", // ד = HEBREW LETTER DALET
"v=0x05D4", // ה = HEBREW LETTER HE
"u=0x05D5", // ו = HEBREW LETTER VAV
"z=0x05D6", // ז = HEBREW LETTER ZAYIN
"j=0x05D7", // ח = HEBREW LETTER HET
"y=0x05D8", // ט = HEBREW LETTER TET
"h=0x05D9", // י = HEBREW LETTER YOD
"l=0x05DA", // ך = HEBREW LETTER FINAL KAF
"f=0x05DB", // כ = HEBREW LETTER KAF
"k=0x05DC", // ל = HEBREW LETTER LAMED
"o=0x05DD", // ם = HEBREW LETTER FINAL MEM
"n=0x05DE", // מ = HEBREW LETTER MEM
"i=0x05DF", // ן = HEBREW LETTER FINAL NUN
"b=0x05E0", // נ = HEBREW LETTER NUN
"s=0x05E1", // ס = HEBREW LETTER SAMEKH
"g=0x05E2", // ע = HEBREW LETTER AYIN
";=0x05E3", // ף = HEBREW LETTER FINAL PE
"p=0x05E4", // פ = HEBREW LETTER PE
".=0x05E5", // ץ = HEBREW LETTER FINAL TSADI
"m=0x05E6", // צ = HEBREW LETTER TSADI
"e=0x05E7", // ק = HEBREW LETTER QOF
"r=0x05E8", // ר = HEBREW LETTER RESH
"a=0x05E9", // ש = HEBREW LETTER SHIN
",=0x05EA", // ת = HEBREW LETTER TAV

// Some other mappings that change, besides the letters themselves:
"`=;",
"'=,",
"/=.",

// There is said to be support for bidirectionality. If so: swapping 
// between left and right parathensis might prove useful. Just in case
// it does, I add the mapping remmed-out:
//"[=]",
//"]=[",
//"{=}",
//"]={",
//"(=)",
//")=(",

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Re: ADSL Routing, not working except to IIS5

2001-01-16 Thread Dani Arbel

Run apache with proxy service. use that proxy in your internal network.
Dani

On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Ronen Engler wrote:

> Hi
> I installed the ADSL connection pptp and everything looks just fine, also i put 
>another NIC on my computer and i would like to share the connection,
> the problem is that everything is working gr8 except that i cannot use the windows 
>machines to connect other site that don't use IIS5, i.e msn.com works, walla... do 
>not work.
> i can do everything else, telnet to every port ftp ... wierd.
> i use Bezeq's adsl w/ Orckit modem in Haifa.
> anyone?
> 


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Re: again bezeq ADSL problem :\

2001-01-16 Thread Dani Arbel

Can you send the command line you used to start the pptp and your ppp
options?
Dani

On 13 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> yo ppl
> i did exactly what the bezeq ADSL HOWTO from www.iglu.org.il saying to do 
> and i got this (on linux suse7):
> 
> --
> Using interface ppp0
> Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttya0
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1]
> rcvd [LCP ConfRej id=0x1   ]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
> rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
> sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5f   ]
> sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x5f ]
> rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x60  ]
> sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x60  ]
> sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x39250e35]
> sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1  ]
> sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1   ]
> rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x61]
> LCP terminated by peer
> sent [LCP TermAck id=0x61]
> rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x6   ]
> Connection terminated.
> Terminating on signal 15.
> 
>  
> plzz
> help me 
> thanks CooK@EFnet
> 
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Linux at Bar-Ilan

2001-01-16 Thread David Shadmi



Dear Bar-Ilan 
students, faculty and staff:In the second semester we are planning a 
series of informal lecturescovering the basics of Linux. Our target audience 
consists of people withsome experience with unix systems, who would like to 
learn what linux hasto offer, how to install linux, and the basics of system 
administration.The lectures will hopefully take place once every two 
weeks. We havestarted making contacts with people in and out of the 
University who havelinux experience, asking them to volunteer to give a 
lecture. If youhappen to be, or know, a linux devotee, please do send us 
your/his/hername so we can sign you/him/her up to help. Once we get going we 
will alsoapproach the Israel Linux Users' Group (http://www.linux.org.il) 
for help.We hope that this will be just the start of organized linux 
activity inthe University. We would like to hold a brief first 
meeting to fix a convenient time andpreferred topics for the lectures. This 
meeting will be on Sunday January21, 19:30, in the seminar room on the 3rd 
floor of the Math and CSbuilding. Please bring your schedules for 2nd 
semester. Please do notdisturb the class that meets in the room from 18:00 
to 19:30. If youcannot make the organizational meeting, but are interested, 
please send usan email. In the spirit of linux, the lectures will be open to 
the entireworld, but we ask everyone who wants to participate to let us know 
inadvance. Sincerely,David Shadmi  (for the 
students)   [EMAIL PROTECTED]Jeremy Schiff  (for the faculty)   
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Re: Estimating disk activity

2001-01-16 Thread Eran Tromer

"iostat" gives more detailed disk statistics, based on /proc/stat: per
physical device, and with a kernel patch, per logical device. Thanks to
Eric Wolf for pointing this out.

"sar" shows similar statistics (and many other system statistics) and
has log record/view facilities. The Linux port is rather recent.

The "sysstat" package (RedHat7, Suse 6.4) contains both.

  Regards,
Eran Tromer


Eran Tromer wrote:
> 
> guy keren wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Eran Tromer wrote:
> >
> > > How do I tell remotely how heavy is the disk activity on a Linux box?
> >
> > man vmstat
> 
> Thanks. Does the trick for me (almost no disk access on the web server
> -- everything in RAM, as is right and proper).
> 
> None the less, is it possible to get something more informative than
> global number of blocks read/written? It would be useful to have data
> like:
> 
> * statistics for specific file/directory/filesystem/disk
> * something like "top", but for file usage
> * percent of time a physical device is accessed
> 
> Anything like this available?
> 
>   Regards,
> Eran Tromer
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10x ppl my box works with the ADSL

2001-01-16 Thread cookz

:)

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