Frame Relay card for linux.

[Mike]

Hi list.
Does anyone knows where i can get a Frame Relay card (in order to
connect to the Bezeq Frame Relay network) for linux ?

I want to make linux as router (i know that there is the linuxrouter
project...just come back from there)

Thanks,

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Re: IGLU meeting 7.4

[David Tabachnikov]

OK, Cool. NOw, its the first friday of the month, right? So it will be
on the 7.4, but what hour?
I have seen somebody say its 11:00AM, but some of us are still learning
in school, and stuff...

Oh, and if I am 128 years old?(0x80) ;)
Why not restrict the age to 0xff? ;)

Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:39:20PM +0200, David Tabachnikov wrote:
> > > Hello. I'm new to Linux-IL (I found out about Linux-IL only on
> > > InternetWorld 2000), and I was wondering, how the meetings are like?
> > > Should I sign in somewhere, or just come to IDC Hertzelia and thats it?
> > > And does anybody know what Eged lines go there?
> >
> > First of all, welcome :)
> >
> > The meetings do not require any signing up, and are of course
> > free, so just come to the IDC.
> 
> I am understanding "signing" as registration. Then, quoting Chen:
> 
> /startqoution if you intend to come to the meeting: it's
> FREE and open for all, lectures are intended for ages 0x04 to 0x7F. only
> please send a short note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell us how many
> people are coming so we can arrange a bigger room if needed. /endqoution
> 
> Nobody will say anything if you will come without registration. However, as
> you can imagine, the registration help to organize the meeting.
> 
> --
> 
> --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> --
> 
> --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Frame Relay card for linux.

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

I think that Sangoma was selling such a card..

And I think that our dear Ira knows much more then I do...

Hetz


Mike wrote:
> 
> Hi list.
> Does anyone knows where i can get a Frame Relay card (in order to
> connect to the Bezeq Frame Relay network) for linux ?
> 
> I want to make linux as router (i know that there is the linuxrouter
> project...just come back from there)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
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RE: IGLU meeting 7.4

[David Hananel]

Hey

I learn in school in the morning too.
I want to come to the meetings but it's always in the morning.
I think we should do the meetings afternoon or maby in the evening.
What do you think about that?
It will be much more easier.

David

- Original Message -
From: David Tabachnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: linux-il <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: IGLU meeting 7.4


> OK, Cool. NOw, its the first friday of the month, right? So it will be
> on the 7.4, but what hour?
> I have seen somebody say its 11:00AM, but some of us are still learning
> in school, and stuff...
>
> Oh, and if I am 128 years old?(0x80) ;)
> Why not restrict the age to 0xff? ;)
>
> Shaul Karl wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:39:20PM +0200, David Tabachnikov wrote:
> > > > Hello. I'm new to Linux-IL (I found out about Linux-IL only on
> > > > InternetWorld 2000), and I was wondering, how the meetings are like?
> > > > Should I sign in somewhere, or just come to IDC Hertzelia and thats
it?
> > > > And does anybody know what Eged lines go there?
> > >
> > > First of all, welcome :)
> > >
> > > The meetings do not require any signing up, and are of course
> > > free, so just come to the IDC.
> >
> > I am understanding "signing" as registration. Then, quoting Chen:
> >
> > /startqoution if you intend to come to the meeting: it's
> > FREE and open for all, lectures are intended for ages 0x04 to 0x7F. only
> > please send a short note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell us how many
> > people are coming so we can arrange a bigger room if needed. /endqoution
> >
> > Nobody will say anything if you will come without registration. However,
as
> > you can imagine, the registration help to organize the meeting.
> >
> > --
> >
> > --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > --
> >
> > --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> --
> Best regads,
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Re: kerneli

[Adi Stav]

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 01:25:07AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > Linux Kernel Mailing List. I recommend the excellent summaries at
> > http://kt.linuxcare.com . 
> 
> I looked for these summaries but could not find them. Can you be more 
> specific? Can these summaries be subscribed to so that it will be obtained 
> automatically every day or every week? I am thinking about the DWN (Debian 
> Weekly News) model.
 
That's the model. I'm not sure who copied whose ideas, KT or DWN.

Try the links on the left bar... KT/KC news (also summaries from Wine,
Gimp, Hurd...) or Kernel Traffic Home: Latest Issue.

> Then the main purpose is that the kernel src will be signed and have an MD5 or 
> similar checksum. The fact that it gets encrypted is only a by product. Am I 
> right?
 
Ah... AFAIK, the idea was to put in the kernel code that does
encryption. Not encrypting the kernel source itself. Like an encrypted
filesystem for example, encrypted block devices... For the kernel
itself to do encryption of other data. That would make the kernel an
encryption device. Some countries put problems on distribution of
encryption devices.
 

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Re: IGLU meeting 7.4

[David Tabachnikov]

Yeah, but then what about the religios community (the real religious
people - not wanna'be t0ra kiddi3s (Sorry, I'm bad at l33t sp34ck)) That
can't come at friday evening?

David Hananel wrote:
> 
> Hey
> 
> I learn in school in the morning too.
> I want to come to the meetings but it's always in the morning.
> I think we should do the meetings afternoon or maby in the evening.
> What do you think about that?
> It will be much more easier.
> 
> David
> 

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Re: NMI problems

[Udi Finkelstein]

On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:18:42 +0200 (IST), Tzafrir Cohen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi list
>I have a computer with Mandrake 6.1 (kernel 2.2.13). 
>
>I recently upgraded most of the hardware. Since then I started getting
>messages (every couple of hours):
>Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 2c.
>Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
>Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Do you have a strange power saving mode
>enabled?

Well, why don't you listen to the warnings??

Start by turning off ALL the power saving modes in your BIOS, and see if you
still have problems. In many occasions, some BIOSes/drivers/OS's have bugs in
their power saving code. If you don't really need this, esp. if this is a
server that is on 24h/day, do yourself a favour and turn it off for good.

Udi

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Re: NMI problems

[Tzafrir Cohen]

Did that already today. I still get those messages. Actually - now the
reason seemsto have changed to "3d" and "2d".

What is the "reason" for an NMI interrupt? Can I learn from that which
device sent me this interrupt?

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Udi Finkelstein wrote:

> On Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:18:42 +0200 (IST), Tzafrir Cohen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >Hi list
> >I have a computer with Mandrake 6.1 (kernel 2.2.13).
> >
> >I recently upgraded most of the hardware. Since then I started getting
> >messages (every couple of hours):
> >Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 2c.
> >Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Dazed and confused, but trying to continue
> >Mar 26 05:18:58 yarden kernel: Do you have a strange power saving mode
> >enabled?
> 
> Well, why don't you listen to the warnings??
> 
> Start by turning off ALL the power saving modes in your BIOS, and see if you
> still have problems. In many occasions, some BIOSes/drivers/OS's have bugs in
> their power saving code. If you don't really need this, esp. if this is a
> server that is on 24h/day, do yourself a favour and turn it off for good.
> 
> Udi
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RE: IGLU meeting 7.4

[David Hananel]

So not in friday evening...
Maby in Thursday evening?

David
- Original Message - 
From: David Tabachnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David Hananel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: IGLU meeting 7.4


> Yeah, but then what about the religios community (the real religious
> people - not wanna'be t0ra kiddi3s (Sorry, I'm bad at l33t sp34ck)) That
> can't come at friday evening?
> 
> David Hananel wrote:
> > 
> > Hey
> > 
> > I learn in school in the morning too.
> > I want to come to the meetings but it's always in the morning.
> > I think we should do the meetings afternoon or maby in the evening.
> > What do you think about that?
> > It will be much more easier.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Best regads,
> David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)
> Please sign the Linux driver petition at
> http://www.libranet.com/petition.html
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Re: NMI problems

[Matan Ziv-Av]

> Did that already today. I still get those messages. Actually - now the
> reason seemsto have changed to "3d" and "2d".

The reason is the value of port 0x61. the difference between 2d and 3d
is almost random (bit 4 changes every memory refresh cycle). The
difference between 2c and 2d (bit 0) is clock 2 enable (the clock used
to drive the speaker). Maybe there was a "beep" at the nmi occured?

Some bioses send some apm interrupts even when it is disabled, so you
might want to compile basic apm support in the kernel. And make sure the
ram is ok. Do you use true parity or ecc ram?

> What is the "reason" for an NMI interrupt? Can I learn from that which
> device sent me this interrupt?

In intel 430tx documentation, there is complete explanation of port 0x61
value. It won't you help much.


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Re: NMI problems

[Izar Tarandach]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> Did that already today. I still get those messages. Actually - now the
> reason seemsto have changed to "3d" and "2d".
>
> What is the "reason" for an NMI interrupt? Can I learn from that which
> device sent me this interrupt?
>

Do you by any chance have IO-APIC on your motherboard ?
Do you have anything diferent from 0 on the NMI line on your /proc/interrupts ?
Do you have a machine with a MCA bus ?

I am sorry, I missed the beginning of the thread, so I don't know if you
already posted your configuration or not.

The message you are getting comes from a trap called straight from the
heart of your kernel. Any info on your hardware could help us to have ideas
on what's happening there.

Again, I did not follow the thread from the beginning. If you'd like some help, and
has already sent the system info to the list, please email me it so that I can
see if something strikes the eye.

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Re: NMI problems

[Izar Tarandach]

Matan Ziv-Av wrote:

> Some bioses send some apm interrupts even when it is disabled, so you
> might want to compile basic apm support in the kernel. And make sure the
> ram is ok. Do you use true parity or ecc ram?

>From arch/i386/traps.c, I came under the impression that parity and
other ram errors would get their own messages. On the other hand,
anything caused by "other factors" would come up as unknown. Is
that not the actual case ? What other reasons could come from memory
errors that are not covered by those two cases ?

thanks,

--izar
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Re: NMI problems

[Matan Ziv-Av]

On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Izar Tarandach wrote:

> From arch/i386/traps.c, I came under the impression that parity and
> other ram errors would get their own messages. On the other hand,
> anything caused by "other factors" would come up as unknown. Is
> that not the actual case ? What other reasons could come from memory
> errors that are not covered by those two cases ?

That's assuming that the hardware sets the necessary bits, which is not
always true. 

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Re: NMI problems

[Izar Tarandach]

Matan Ziv-Av wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Izar Tarandach wrote:
>
> > From arch/i386/traps.c, I came under the impression that parity and
> > other ram errors would get their own messages. On the other hand,
> > anything caused by "other factors" would come up as unknown. Is
> > that not the actual case ? What other reasons could come from memory
> > errors that are not covered by those two cases ?
>
> That's assuming that the hardware sets the necessary bits, which is not
> always true.

I see. Thanks. Do they "do not set the necessary bits" as a bug, or by
nature
of the "defect" (for lack of a better word) causes the bits to be written
wrongly ? Do you have any resource you may point me to that would give me
some
background on this (apart from 4 years studying Electronics on a
university :) ?
Thanks,

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Re: IGLU meeting 7.4

[Ury Segal]

Now that we are bigger, why don't we make a new vote ?

David Hananel wrote:

> So not in friday evening...
> Maby in Thursday evening?
>
> David
> - Original Message -
> From: David Tabachnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: David Hananel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: IGLU meeting 7.4
>
> > Yeah, but then what about the religios community (the real religious
> > people - not wanna'be t0ra kiddi3s (Sorry, I'm bad at l33t sp34ck)) That
> > can't come at friday evening?
> >
> > David Hananel wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey
> > >
> > > I learn in school in the morning too.
> > > I want to come to the meetings but it's always in the morning.
> > > I think we should do the meetings afternoon or maby in the evening.
> > > What do you think about that?
> > > It will be much more easier.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Best regads,
> > David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)
> > Please sign the Linux driver petition at
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Re: NMI problems

[Ilya Konstantinov]

On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:33:34PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Did that already today. I still get those messages. Actually - now the
> reason seemsto have changed to "3d" and "2d".
> 
> What is the "reason" for an NMI interrupt? Can I learn from that which
> device sent me this interrupt?

Quick search on Google revealed this:
www.infocom.cqu.edu.au/Units/win98/85349/Schedule/Assessment/Examples/
(see Maskable and Non maskable Interrupts).
Was a pretty interesting read for me too.

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Hebrew for Linux Workshop 14.4

[Roi Hadar]

Shalom.

On Friday 14.4 at 10:00 we will hold the first Hebrew for Linux Workshop.
The venue is tentatively the IDC in Herzlia, but an offer of a location
better served by public transport will be considered favourably.

The purpose of the workshop is to crystallize, coordinate and accelerate the
haphazard and piecemeal progress already underway towards full Hebrew
support under Linux, and to induct more people into this effort.

The workshop is intended primarily for developers - and people interested in
becoming developers (documenting and packaging the software also count as
development!).

Nadav Har'El will open with a survey of progress achieved up to date and a
perspective of our goals.

Afterwards we want to have short technical reviews of topics such as
character encoding, fonts in X, BiDi algorithms, i18n in KDE and GTK etc.,
to enable developers unfamiliar with these issues to get started. If you
believe you can present such a review, please email me or the ivrix-discuss
list.

Please forward this to people not on these lists who you think might be able
to contribute. We want to have with us everybody working on Hebrew for
Linux. If you don't follow regularly the mailing lists be sure to check
 for updates.
-- 
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Re: Frame Relay card for linux.

[Shaul Karl]

In case you are willing to be satisfied with an external box:
1) You can rent one from Bezeq.
2) I forgot the company name but try to call ECI and ask about it. If you'll 
be able to explain yourself clearly and get luck to talk to the right person 
you might get their number (for an external box). Actually, Bezeq might give 
you a name + phone number too.

BTW: Will the ADSL be charged per minute of use? ADSL 700kbps seems better 
then most FR lines, isn't it?


> I think that Sangoma was selling such a card..
> 
> And I think that our dear Ira knows much more then I do...
> 
> Hetz
> 
> 
> Mike wrote:
> > 
> > Hi list.
> > Does anyone knows where i can get a Frame Relay card (in order to
> > connect to the Bezeq Frame Relay network) for linux ?
> > 
> > I want to make linux as router (i know that there is the linuxrouter
> > project...just come back from there)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
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Re: IGLU meeting 7.4

[Shaul Karl]

> OK, Cool. NOw, its the first friday of the month, right? So it will be
> on the 7.4, but what hour?
> I have seen somebody say its 11:00AM, but some of us are still learning
> in school, and stuff...


Another quote from Chen:
/startqouting The date is Friday, 7.4.2000, and we're gonna start showing up
at around 9am. You are welcome to get early and get to know the people
behind the Email addresses and urban legends. Linux geeks meetings are
never boring and it's a great chance for newbies to ask veteran users
some questions face-to-face instead of  the delay of a mailing list.
feel free to bring laptops (show off cool stuff you hacked together or
ask us to help you with setups). /endqouting

As someone else wrote: (1) Satisfying everybody is difficult. (2) The time was 
decided by voting.

Since the time of the meeting has much to do with the availability of a class 
room and because the IDC location seems to me a bit isolated I will begin by 
trying to find a place in Tel-Aviv.


> 
> Oh, and if I am 128 years old?(0x80) ;)
> Why not restrict the age to 0xff? ;)
> 
> Shaul Karl wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 08:39:20PM +0200, David Tabachnikov wrote:
> > > > Hello. I'm new to Linux-IL (I found out about Linux-IL only on
> > > > InternetWorld 2000), and I was wondering, how the meetings are like?
> > > > Should I sign in somewhere, or just come to IDC Hertzelia and thats it?
> > > > And does anybody know what Eged lines go there?
> > >
> > > First of all, welcome :)
> > >
> > > The meetings do not require any signing up, and are of course
> > > free, so just come to the IDC.
> > 
> > I am understanding "signing" as registration. Then, quoting Chen:
> > 
> > /startqoution if you intend to come to the meeting: it's
> > FREE and open for all, lectures are intended for ages 0x04 to 0x7F. only
> > please send a short note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell us how many
> > people are coming so we can arrange a bigger room if needed. /endqoution
> > 
> > Nobody will say anything if you will come without registration. However, as
> > you can imagine, the registration help to organize the meeting.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > --  Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> -- 
> Best regads,
>   David Tabachnikov (NetHunter)
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Re: Frame Relay card for linux.

[guy keren]

On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:

> In case you are willing to be satisfied with an external box:
> 1) You can rent one from Bezeq.

the device bezeq currently rents to people that need a FRAD (frame-relay
access device) is Radwiz's pico router. you have to pay a 690 NIS one time
installation fee for this device's installation, and something around 70
NIS per month. these charges are ofcourse added to the charges on the
frame-relay line itself. if you call bezeq's people about this device, its
name is "IP Router" (or maybe "Web router" - they managed to get me
confused about their strange naming conventions...).

this router is very small, has a 10 Mbit ethernet UTP connection (i.e.
twisted pair, or RJ-45, or whatever name you use to refer to that) and
another V35 connection, used to connect to bezeq's FR modem.

naturally, the software they supply for controlling the device is for
WinXX, but you can connect to it via any VT terminal emulation program and
configure it manually.

1 note: it takes this device quite a while to boot (over a minute, i
think).

btw, the bezeq technician that gave me the device with configuration
instructions (i simply insisted on installing it myself, rather then
waiting for them to come) actually had linux installed at home ;0

hope this helps,

guy

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 or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy


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Re: Frame Relay card for linux.

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

I trully hope that you don't buy Bezeq PR bullshit..

Current tests with the bezeq ADSL service shows that its anything but
stable. Its running on a CRAP NT server which crashes almost daily..

FYI.


Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> In case you are willing to be satisfied with an external box:
> 1) You can rent one from Bezeq.
> 2) I forgot the company name but try to call ECI and ask about it. If you'll
> be able to explain yourself clearly and get luck to talk to the right person
> you might get their number (for an external box). Actually, Bezeq might give
> you a name + phone number too.
> 
> BTW: Will the ADSL be charged per minute of use? ADSL 700kbps seems better
> then most FR lines, isn't it?
> 
> > I think that Sangoma was selling such a card..
> >
> > And I think that our dear Ira knows much more then I do...
> >
> > Hetz
> >
> >
> > Mike wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi list.
> > > Does anyone knows where i can get a Frame Relay card (in order to
> > > connect to the Bezeq Frame Relay network) for linux ?
> > >
> > > I want to make linux as router (i know that there is the linuxrouter
> > > project...just come back from there)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
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Re: unsubscribe

[Ely Levy]

If it didn't work the first time no reason for it to work in the one
houndred time..
anyhow i unsubscribe you isn't that complicated though..


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April 1st

[Eli Marmor]

http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/04/01/954626130.html
http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/04/01/954615693.html

(I don't mention the Apache for Palm, which all of you already saw,
but only these stories).

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Linux in M$ settlement talks

[Oleg Goldshmidt]

I just read a Bloomberg news item reporting that Microsoft's
settlement talks with Justice and states broke down, and
the Court decision is expected next week. Here is a snippet
that caught my attention:

 Office for Linux
 Microsoft also rejected a proposal by the states that
Microsoft develop a version of its popular Microsoft Office
software for the Linux operating system, people familiar with the
talks said.
 The states argued that the development of Office for Linux
would give a boost to the upstart competing operating system and
blunt Microsoft's ability to use Office to gain control of the
market for operating systems for servers, which run networks of
computers.

 Source: Bloomberg News, Apr 2, 2000

-- 
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"... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft;
 And wit depends on dilatory time." - W. Shakespeare.

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Re: April 1st

[Eli Marmor]

I wrote:

> http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/04/01/954626130.html
> http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/04/01/954615693.html
> 
> (I don't mention the Apache for Palm, which all of you already saw,
> but only these stories).

P.S.  And this one, of course:

http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/04/01/954596902.html

-- 
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