Re: [LincolnTalk] Jets

[Jennifer Saffran]

IDK exactly why, but all airports will change the “pattern”, meaning which 
runways are used for take offs and landings, from time to time. This can be due 
to winds, although yesterday was quite still, or, as I have been told, Hanscom 
rotates their landing patterns so as to “share the pain” among the surrounding 
towns. 

Like you, I noted that some days, one could be swimming in the middle of Walden 
Pond and see and hear a parade of aircraft flying overhead. Most days, they are 
not there. It’s disconcerting.

> On May 5, 2024, at 8:57 PM, Edica Lin  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know why there are so many jets flying over Lincoln recently, 
> especially today, Sunday when we all want some quiet and peace?  I feel like 
> living in an Airfield…..
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bear sighting just now at Fox Run Road

[Jennifer Saffran]

I’ve seen bear tags before, but “Dodger” appears to have both ears tagged. 
What’s up with that?

> On May 12, 2024, at 9:20 PM, Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln 
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> It’s Dodger! 
> 
> 
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> On Sunday, May 12, 2024, 9:16 PM, Lynne Smith  wrote:
> 
> Looks like he has opposing thumbs ! And he clearly knows where to find seeds.
> 
> 
> Lynne Smith
> 5 Tabor Hill Road
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> 781-258-1175
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> > On 12 May 2024, at 6:14 PM, pspe...@gmail.com  
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bat houses in Lincoln

[Jennifer Saffran]

We put them up in Quebec, and the ones facing north, as is advised, became 
homes for bats. The ones facing south never were used because they got too hot 
in the sun, or so I am told.

> On May 13, 2024, at 5:20 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
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> I put houses up in the mountains in CO, but no takers.
> They preferred my attic and garage !
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>> On May 13, 2024, at 5:14 PM, John F. Carr  wrote:
>> 
>> Has anybody on the list installed a bat house?  Did you get bats?  What 
>> species?
>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bear? Two bluebird houses broken and smashed.

[Jennifer Saffran]

Yes, bears. They are incredibly strong and persistent when hungry. I have seen 
them shred a wood shed to get to soiled restaurant kitchen linens. They can 
open heavy metal commercial dumpster doors while looking for leftovers. In one 
famous story that circulates in NH, they can even climb in an open window with 
a screen to get to a beef stew in a slow cooker. I have yet to hear, however, 
that they go after people. 

> On May 14, 2024, at 7:37 AM, Caroline Hayes  wrote:
> 
> This morning we woke up to find both of our bluebird houses on the ground, 
> wood broken open with force, one with metal pole bent (and broken!) down to 
> the ground.
> 
> One had another species’ eggs in it, smashed, and luckily the other had 4 
> live baby bluebirds. We were able to repair their house a bit and parents are 
> nearby. 
> 
> Just a warning that I can’t imagine any other creature but the bear could do 
> this and bend the metal like that?  Anyone else have this issue? Or another 
> hypothesis?
> 
> I can see how they look like bird feeders since they are on poles and about 
> the same height. 
> 
> Just a warning to all with bluebird houses - I hope this doesn’t happen to 
> any others around town.  Especially since this is when all the babies have 
> hatched. 
> 
> We will put a camera up tonight and see if we see anything. 
> 
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> South Great Rd
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Coincidence or Conspiracy?

[Jennifer Saffran]

My family in New Mexico had to get lockable mailboxes for single family 
dwellings because of stolen checks. That was well over a decade ago.

At least with online banking you have proof that a check was issues and sent.

> On Jun 10, 2024, at 12:21 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Online banking has made it easy to track payments/checks.
> Out fox the foxes!
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 11:16 AM, RAandBOB  wrote:
>> 
>> Recently, we sent money and a birthday card to our grandson in Alabama. The 
>> card arrived with no money inside. Upon careful examination, we noticed at 
>> the bottom of the envelope had been carefully cut open, and then resealed 
>> with invisible tape. We always mail cards with money into the slot inside 
>> the post office, so we think this was probably an inside job somewhere along 
>> the route. 
>> 
>> Ruth Ann
>> (She, her, hers)
>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:29 AM, DJCP  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I had that happen a few years ago and then read in the squirrel that 
>>> someone was stealing mail from the post office drop box behind the 
>>> building. I did have someone try and cash a fraudulent check before the 
>>> scheme was discovered. The post office has since removed that drop box and 
>>> changed the one in front to one that's presumably harder to tamper with. 
>>> But maybe there's a new scheme? 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 10:21 AM RAandBOB >> > wrote:
 Yes, many times. One time it was the property tax payment. I wound up 
 having to pay $120 penalty for a late payment.🙄
 
 Ruth Ann
 (She, her, hers)
 
 > On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:18 AM, Peter von Mertens 
 > mailto:petervonmert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > Yesterday I received notice from a tradesman that I had not paid them.  
 > But when I looked at my records I noticed I had sent them a check in 
 > early May.  This is the second time this spring that a check that I 
 > think I mailed has gone missing.   And after watching "Mr Bates vs the 
 > Post Office" on PBS ( a true story about how a computer system in Great 
 > Britain robs hundreds of local post masters of their wealth and lives )  
 > I wonder if others have experienced that same problem, i.e. a check 
 > getting lost in the mail?
 > 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Historic Boston tours

[Jennifer Saffran]

I concur, but if time is limited, the Duck Tours are the easiest way to see the 
most in a short period of time. Plus, they are fun. They give you an idea of 
what you want to google later once you get off the duck boat.

In all my years of living in Boston proper, I've never seen bus tours because 
the streets can’t handle them. 

The Freedom Trail is good and I know they’ve upgraded the experience over the 
years. It’s actually not that long because Boston is small. 

If they want a more scholarly tour one on one, let me see if I can reach a 
friend of mine who does or has done that sort of thing…...

> On Jun 16, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> I am not sure there is much in the way of decent bus tours.
> Duck Tours are fun, but incredibly historically inaccurate.
> The Freedom Trail NPS tours are good, but involve walking on hills.
> If you select certain sites, you can mitigate walking-African Meeting House, 
> the BPL (fabulous, undiscovered gem), Old Norht Church and Paul Revere House 
> all offer good and accurate tours, with fascinating glimpse into specific 
> periods.
> 
> Consider Concord and the walking tours out of the Visitors Center + Robbins 
> House.
> https://robbinshouse.org/Plus the Concord Museum, the Old Manse, Old North 
> Bridge, Emerson House and Orchard (Alcott) House…all tell great stores and 
> don’t involve much walking.
> 
> In Lincoln, don’t miss Codman and Gropius House and, of course, the MMNHP 
> Visitors Center.
> 
> Lots to do and see!
> 
> We are an embarrassment of riches.
> 
> Sara
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 16, 2024, at 1:00 PM, Nicholas Ribush  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> We have a couple of overseas visitors coming for a few days later this week. 
>> They'd like to do some kind of bus tour of historic Boston.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> n.
>> 
>> Dr. Nicholas Ribush
>> 6 Goose Pond Rd.
>> Lincoln MA 01773
>> (617) 877-1610
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Historic Boston tours

[Jennifer Saffran]

One of the places that has made a big impression on my visitors from outside of 
this area has been is the Lowell Heritage State Park. The working water powered 
looms really helped my guests understand the Industrial Revolution. Like most 
things, seeing something actually work in person creates a level of 
understanding that you can’t get any other way.

> On Jun 17, 2024, at 7:17 PM, Bob Mason  wrote:
> 
> Instead of thinking about Boston history just in the context of the 
> revolutionary war, why not try the relatively new Innovation Trail and learn 
> about how Boston has driven technological change over its history!
> 
> https://www.theinnovationtrail.org/
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 1:01 PM Nicholas Ribush  > wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> We have a couple of overseas visitors coming for a few days later this week. 
>> They'd like to do some kind of bus tour of historic Boston.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> n.
>> 
>> Dr. Nicholas Ribush
>> 6 Goose Pond Rd. 
>> 
>> Lincoln MA 01773 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] This article is based

[Jennifer Saffran]

Love it!

It’s surprising how. much of the slang I learned as a teen were words that 
infiltrated the decade before, more or less. A surprising amount of those words 
were related to the 60s drug culture.

> On Jul 8, 2024, at 7:32 PM, Elizabeth Butler Everitt 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love youth slang right now! It is so creative and playful. And it seems to 
> move so fast across groups and cultures because of social media. This article 
> barely scratches the surface of it. Definitely worth looking at it from an 
> asset-based perspective! 
> 
> Liz
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 6:25 PM Sara Mattes  > wrote:
>> Well, I finally get a chance, after grandkids left, to start to read 
>> this…and gave up.
>> I will continue to speak the English I learned at my (English.Prof) mother’s 
>> knee, and will  continue to type poorly that should not be seen s reflection 
>> of my mother’s schooling. 
>> 
>> If the kids don’t understand me and I don’t understand them, I suspect we 
>> will both survive.
>> They will get fed and clothed and housed.
>> They will miss my scintillating conversation and/or commentary on the ways 
>> of the world, but not really miss it.
>> 
>> So be it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2024, at 7:00 AM, Rob Stringer >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those with kids or grand kids, this article from the NYT is 
>>> illuminating, even if just a little bit.
>>> 
>>> Rob Stringer (dad of two boys).
>>> 
>>> <25marche-facebookJumbo.jpg>
>>> Opinion | I Am Cringe. The World Is Sus. But My Teenager’s Slang Is Based. 
>>> (Gift Article)
>>> nytimes.com
>>>  
>>> Opinion
>>>  | I Am Cringe. The World Is Sus. But My Teenager’s Slang Is Based. (Gift 
>>> Article) 
>>> 
>>> nytimes.com 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Air conditioning repair

[Jennifer Saffran]

Nicholson. They are everywhere. We’ve used them in two houses. 

> On Jul 8, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Bruce Campbell  wrote:
> 
> Chris Silva
> 781-599-4100
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2024 at 11:40 PM ERIC SNYDER  > wrote:
>> looking for a recommendation for a knowledgeable and reasonable HVAC repair 
>> company. 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] This is the 55 anniversary 0f the first moon walk.

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I watched it on our rear screened in porch that had dark panelling, an avocado 
green “indoor outdoor” rug, on a portable black and white TV that my father had 
brought home from the PX in Japan on his way home from Vietnam the year before. 
For our neighborhood, this room was a relatively upscale amenity. I was 
elementary school aged. I had just had my bath and was in a nightgown. It was 
hot and muggy as it usually was that time of year in the upper Midwest. I 
watched it with my father, who drifted in and out of the house while my mother 
watched it inside with my younger sister. Since returning from Vietnam, that 
pacing was his norm. I am not sure if he actually saw the landing.

At the same time, a girl my age watched this same event some 350 miles east of 
me. It was this event that motivated her to become an astronaut. She worked 
relentlessly in high school, pumping gas in order to pay for power airplane 
lessons, earning an IFR rating. She put herself through college, where we met 
as freshman and became roommates. She made it through the grueling first year 
curriculum; I didn’t. Later, while working at Marshall Space Flight Center, she 
earned a PhD in robotics, becoming a mission specialist for NASA. Her work 
brought her to MIT a number of times, and we are still friends to this day.

> On Jul 20, 2024, at 3:33 PM, Leslie Turek  wrote:
> 
> I was in a tiny apartment in Harvard Square, watching on a tiny portable 
> black and white TV with my new boyfriend.
> Leslie
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2024, at 2:30 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
>> 
>> Where were you?
>> https://www.space.com/see-full-buck-moon-celebrate-apollo-55-anniversary
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Physical therapist for Shoulder

[Jennifer Saffran]

Pro Sports Therapy, Waltham.

> On Jul 26, 2024, at 12:10 PM, iearlerice--- via Lincoln 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had rotator cuff surgery in May and have been seeing Adrea Lenson at 
> Newton-Wellesley Hospital Rehabilitation Services at 159 Wells Ave. in 
> Wellesley. She only works on shoulders and arms, and came highly recommended 
> by my surgeon.  She is extremely experienced, and really listened to what was 
> important to me to accomplish during rehab; she tailored my rehab to help me 
> get back to the activities that were most important to me. With her help I 
> have made amazing progress.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> Irene
> 
> On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 09:07:30 AM EDT, S F via Lincoln 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I liked Katie very much at Connections in Acton a few years back. I'm not 
> sure if she is still there but you can try
> 1 978 881 0090. Most PT's seem to have doctorates now, as does Katie. The 
> other senior person was called Steve.
> The office is close to the RT 27 exit of Route 2 in Acton near Roche 
> Brothers, very easy to get to if it's not rush hour!
> Thanks, Jo
> On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 12:06:20 AM EDT, Mary Kostman via Lincoln 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m seeking a good physical therapist for a shoulder issue, preferably in the 
> surrounding area.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Mary Kostman
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln bear, and compost bin - Oh, my !!

[Jennifer Saffran]

Bears do eat vegetable matter. 

> On Aug 12, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Jai Kaur  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this feedback ! I just ordered one of those two options on Amazon 
> and thanks, Paul, for your endorsement on that. 
> 
> It's our responsibility to steward and preserve our lands and I’m glad I live 
> in a town where many residents understand the common sense importance of - 
> and are dedicated to - composting.  
> Since I believe composting is a very interesting and worthwhile topic, I’ll 
> add more context and share my composting story - for what it’s worth, and for 
> those who give a heap - read on!
>  
> Composting food waste just has seemed like normal practice to me since 
> childhood when I remember the huge composting piles that my Nonni kept at 
> their small family farm in Pleasant Valley Methuen.  
>  
> But, it does require effort to set up properly and maintain a composting 
> system, and it’s unfortunate when people who have the option, choose not to 
> make the effort.  But when you are a tenant and not a landowner, you might 
> not be permitted to have a compost pile.  That was the case for me for 
> several years before moving to Lincoln in 1991.
>  
> But, soon after I moved here, I discovered the Down to Earth Organic farm run 
> by Keith Shields on the Umbrello parcel that is now home to Hannan Healthy 
> Foods Farm. 
> I was one of many volunteers at that farm and we used a large three bin 
> system with pallets.
> That really works best when you have a very large amount of composting 
> material and people who are willing to turn it. I am not able or willing to 
> do that and as I am still a tenant, I opt for much smaller set ups.
> I had a really cool heavy duty, octagonal metal thing about 3 feet high that 
> I used for a composter, but I left at a previous residence. That was very 
> effective and I’ve lamented not still having that. But, I can’t put in 
> fencing or anything like that and it has to be portable.  
>  
> Happy composting ! 
> Ciao! 
> Jai
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 9:16 AM Paul Shorb  > wrote:
>> Jai -
>> Those Amazon items probably would work. My guess is that a bear wouldn't 
>> bother them if you put only vegetable matter in. 
>> 
>> What you choose and how you use it depends on what your goals are. One good 
>> reason to compost your kitchen scraps is to avoid adding them to the trash 
>> stream at our Transfer Station, which then gets incinerated. (The less stuff 
>> we burn, the better for the climate.) For that purpose, Sara M's method is 
>> fine.  If one of your goals is to make compost for gardening, those Amazon 
>> items with a door at the bottom make it somewhat easier to get the older, 
>> readier stuff out from the bottom. 
>> 
>> Whether you want usable compost or just want to warm the planet a little 
>> less, my impression is that you should (A) add enough "brown" (e.g., dry 
>> leaves) to mix with the "green" (e.g., just about all your kitchen scraps) 
>> and (B) allow enough aeration that it doesn't get stinky and start 
>> generating methane gas. Those Amazon items have vents that are intended to 
>> let some air in - but it helps to also stir the stuff up with a pitchfork or 
>> whatever now and then. An open bin made of chicken wire or whatever has more 
>> room to add brown leaves and is easier to stir than those Amazon items. 
>> 
>> How big you need your compost bin is affected by (A) how quickly you 
>> generate kitchen scraps, (B) whether you plan to add brown leaves, and (C) 
>> how often you are willing to have to empty it.
>> 
>> My problem for a while was not adding enough "brown" to my black plastic 
>> tumbling compost bin (it spun on an axle, to facilitate mixing and 
>> aeration). So I replaced that system with the following, which I have found 
>> to be easy to use and to make great compost for gardening. I set up a large 
>> chicken-wire enclosure near my composting bin, to store leaves raked up in 
>> the fall. That way, it's easy enough every now and then to pitchfork some 
>> more brown leaves onto the kitchen scraps in the adjacent composting bin. 
>> The composting bin is a 4-foot cube made of 2-by-4s and hardware cloth (my 
>> original version, built like Sara's, turned out to be insufficient to keep 
>> our highly food-motivated dog). But one of those Amazon items could also 
>> work, if they are big enough for your output rate.
>> 
>> Photos available on request!
>> 
>> - Paul Shorb
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2024 at 12:07 AM Sara Mattes > > wrote:
>>> We have been composting for 40 years, in the same spot.
>>> Metal fence posts in the ground, wrapped in heavy chicken wire
>>> As it gets high, we dig a deep hole and throw  kitchen scraps/ compost in 
>>> there.
>>> We have never turned, or rotated, just let things take their course.
>>> No animal / dairy products ever.
>>> No problem with anything being dismantled.
>>> Compost abounds.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Sent from my

Re: [LincolnTalk] Cat Found Stratford Way Photo

[Jennifer Saffran]

We thought that same thing. 

> On Aug 30, 2024, at 11:53 AM, Nancy McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Based on the 'rosette' pattern, this could be a Bengal cat, if that is any 
> help in identifying the cat and/or owner,  Nancy
> 
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:38 AM Emily Marcus  > wrote:
>> Here is the photo missing from my initial post 
>> 
>> She was last seen between 14 and 16 Stratford Way hopefully this sweet kitty 
>> has found its way back home, but if not, please feel free to come by the 
>> woods and take a look 
>> 
>> Emily
>> 516-457-8766
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Re: [LincolnTalk] For this concerned about climate change (I assume the is everyone)...

[Jennifer Saffran]

The DoD, or rather, the Pentagon, has long recognized climate change as a 
national security threat.

> On Dec 10, 2022, at 5:07 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Step by step… to have DoD taking such a lead is remarkable.
> We need to applaud them while we ask others to also step up.
> Sara
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Trish O'Hagan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing Sara.  It is good to see the military reducing its green 
>> house gas emissions.  Electrification is the future, with solar and wind and 
>> battery storage producing the electricity ( NOT coal plants ...there is 
>> still one in Bow NH, and fracked gas)
>> 
>> Trish O'Hagan
>> 
>> 781 248 5657
>> 
>>> On 12/08/2022 6:09 PM Sara Mattes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> …this is HUGE!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ——— 
>>> Sara Mattes 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] transfer station

[Jennifer Saffran]

yes. it was just posted somewhere. on the 31st, too

> On Dec 22, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Colleen Katsuki  
> wrote:
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> 
> Does anybody know if the transfer station will be open this Saturday or not?
> 
> 
> 
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[LincolnTalk] Deer sightings

[Jennifer Saffran]

Recently, we have been seeing a small herd of deer frequently crossing 126 in 
the area between the Wayland town line/Oxbow Road and Codman Road. Please take 
extra caution at night. While deer are not uncommon, this appears to be more 
activity than usual.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Water?

[Jennifer Saffran]

To answer your original question, we are not experiencing such amber water in 
Farrar Pond Village. Our water, however, almost always smells and tastes like 
peat moss, to some degree.

> On Jan 16, 2023, at 9:19 PM, Sonja Johansson  wrote:
> 
> That is terrible! I would call the non-emergency police line at 781 259 8113
> or email :
> Ruth Ann Hendrickson raand...@earthlink.net 
> Or water dept that is probably closed:781 259 8997
> Sonja
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 9:09 PM David G  > wrote:
> Wow that water looks terrible 
> Have you talked to the water dept?
> 
> A whole house water filter may be worth it 
> 
> Davjd
> 
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 8:51 PM Kate Bruenner  > wrote:
> Hi All,
> Is anyone else experiencing this? It's a little concerning to think we are 
> drinking this water?! Seems more discolored than passed years... even our 
> young children didn't want to get in ;)
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Kate (Tower rd)
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Seamstress

[Jennifer Saffran]

https://anns-tailor-shop.business.site/?utm_source=gmb&utm_medium=referral

She’s in Marlboro, off of Route 20. Ann. She’s remade ball gowns for me, 
tailored baggy blazers with linings so that they looked brand new, remade pants 
for me so that they actually fit, etc. She’s amazing.

It’s worth the drive.

She’s a fascinating person, hiked all the 4,000 footers, a scientist from China.

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 2:50 PM, DEBORAH MANEGOLD  wrote:
> 
> 
> Have an old silk quilt needs significant repair.   Any recommendations 
> appreciated   Thanks. Deb manegold 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Indoor Air Quality and Gas Stoves

[Jennifer Saffran]

This does not answer your question directly, but we recently renovated and put 
in an (electric) induction stove. It has the quick responsiveness of a gas 
stove and it is much easier to clean because of it’s glass-like top. Yes, we 
had to buy a few new pots because it won’t work with aluminum. Highly recommend.

> On Jan 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, Forest Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi LT!
> 
> There has been a lot of talk lately about the dangers of gas stoves in 
> regards the air quality in the home (and of course the health of our planet). 
> I have always preferred a gas stove and am wondering if switching to electric 
> is of dire importance for my health, or not. I use the hood above the stove 
> when cooking and have an air purifier but do not always have it on. Does 
> anyone have a recommendation for an air quality test /company or have a home 
> detection device that I could borrow?
> 
> Thank you!
> Becca
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School Projected Class Size

[Jennifer Saffran]

You mentioned decreasing “special” services. If you mean special education, 
understand that there are complex state and federal laws and regulations that 
govern these.

The good news is that the additional staff that is demanded, particularly 
in-classroom aides and paraprofessionals lower the student to staff ratios. 
Also, funding for special education is a combination of local, state, and 
federal dollars. The LEA (local school district) is not responsible for paying 
for all of it.



> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:18 PM, Andy Wang  wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I was just keying off of something you said "The recently approved FY24 
> Budget contradicts the chart as it funds 4 classroom teachers per each 6, 7 
> and 8 grade. "  What are you keying off of in the budget?  How are you 
> counting teachers where there are ones that teach sections across grades and 
> specialists?  I was just pointing out that while there were 4 homeroom 
> teachers in 6th, but there are only 3 sections for the kids.  Those teachers 
> don't 'just have homeroom duties', like my kid's homeroom teacher is also his 
> ELA teacher. 
> 
> Parents can certainly voice concerns.  Gifted children want extra attention, 
> and parents of gifted kids advocate for that.  Struggling students want extra 
> attention, and those parents advocate for them.  It IS complicated in the 
> sense that you need to optimize across a wide range of students and 
> abilities, and philosophical stance on what it means to be a student at 
> Lincoln Public Schools and there are trades that need to be made.  I mean, do 
> you KNOW that the administration hasn't looked at ways of optimizing things?
> 
> When it comes down to it, I'm happy to wax philosophical on Lincoln Talk all 
> day long (clearly), but my parting point was just that the school committee 
> is elected and folks should be electing people who they think represent their 
> views.  There are many ways to focus the school.  We could teach more to the 
> MCAS and increase that ranking, we could make larger classes, remove special 
> programs, decrease special services, increase gifted programs, decrease 
> spending.  All of those things come with trade-offs and those decisions are 
> not going to be made here.  And only foot stomping this stronger now cause 
> deadline to pull papers is tomorrow.
> 
> - Andy
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 8:53 PM Peter Buchthal  > wrote:
> Andy,
> 
> I don't see your distinction between listed teachers who have classrooms for 
> core subjects and other teachers who apparently just host homeroom students 
> and have other classroom duties.  Our  school population has decreased by 20 
> % in the last 10 years and apparently the administration and school committee 
> can't even consider optimizing the staff to offer additional academic 
> services the students and parents want while lowering the ongoing costs of 
> running the school.  Every year, without much debate, the School Committee 
> asks and gets the maximum 2.5% raise over the previous year and that is 
> considered success even though our school population keeps going down.Our 
> student teacher ratio is significantly lower than almost everyone (37% more 
> teachers than the state average),  Our MCAS scores are middle of the pack, 
> our cost per student is 6K higher than almost every other school except for 
> Weston and the School says basically, "we can't cut a thing, you don't 
> understand, it's complicated."
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Reply
> Forward
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 6:14 PM Andy Wang  > wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> Not to jump in on a conversation between you and John, but since you posted 
> publicly, I figure it would be okay.
> 
> I wanted to point out, that in the middle school, there is a distinction 
> between the listed teachers (from the enrollment report) and sections that 
> are on John's chart. I have a son who is in 6th grade  (60 in his class).  In 
> the enrollment report you linked to (the 2022 Enrollment Report), it 
> indicates that there are 4 groups, what I'll call 'homerooms' each led by a 
> teacher (4 listed there).  But when they go to class, he says they only have 
> 3 sections, of about 20 in each section.  This seems to match the chart that 
> John included in his email, which specifies sections.  I think in the middle 
> school, the teacher ratio gets a little more confusing since some subject 
> teachers teach one grade, some multiple, and also specialists (who could 
> teach multiple grades) as opposed to in the elementary school where the 
> 'homeroom' teachers, for the most part, teach all subjects to their class 
> (but also some specials here too).  While I understand your argument, I don't 
> think it's quite as simple as just cutting a section.
> 
> As a staffing side note, the town probably also doesn't want to get into a 
> situation where, say you decide to cut a section of a grade and then have a 
> t

Re: [LincolnTalk] Piano movers

[Jennifer Saffran]

Deathwish piano movers. Used by professional musicians 

> On Feb 2, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Sofia Kampoures  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> I’m looking for a piano mover – any references?
> Thanks! 
> Sofia 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Lincoln School Projected Class Size

[Jennifer Saffran]

I would like to remind people that, yes, Lincoln is, on average, a privileged 
town, but that doesn’t mean everyone in it is “privileged”. (By privileged, I 
assume that means a high per household income.) It is easy to see the 
incredible beauty and assets of Lincoln and its residents as somehow set apart, 
to be, as it were, even a bit self-congratulatory. Along with an awareness of 
“privilege”, another “Yankee cultural value” is also thrift. My point is that 
referencing to well-worn ideas of identity is not really a way to make school 
funding and planning decisions. Lincoln is one of MANY districts in the 
Commonwealth of Mass. that are excellent. Not all are on the Route 2 corridor, 
either. Luckily, in MA, we have many excellent school districts to use as 
models of success.

For example, in one of the many emails, Southboro was listed as the top 
performing school at the elementary level. My children were educated in that 
district. Class sizes were capped at 22 per licensed teacher, and 24 at the 
regional high school (ARHS—Algonquin). The year my son graduated, they sent 5 
students to Harvard. Additionally, ARHS has received the Special Olympics 
International’s designation as a Special Olympics Unified Champion School 
TWICE. There are only 160 of these schools in the nation. 

My point is that it is possible to be excellent in many ways, meeting the needs 
of all students, without disregarding what is considered “best practices” in 
other school districts who have documented successes. I would invite us all to 
look outward as well as inward when making plans for the upcoming years.


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Re: [LincolnTalk] Piano movers

[Jennifer Saffran]

When we lived in the South End of Boston in the 1980s, before it became too chi 
chi for most people, including musicians, we saw many a baby grand swinging in 
the streets as Death Wish deftly put it through a window and into someone’s 
apartment. A lot of people who were affiliated with the BSO and the music 
schools lived in that neighborhood. Deathwish also has the coolest vans and 
uniforms. They looked like a cross between the IRA and a goth punk band. We’ve 
used them several times.

> On Feb 5, 2023, at 8:03 PM, Sofia Kampoures  wrote:
> 
> Thank you to everyone for the piano mover recommendations! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2023, at 12:17 PM, Sofia Kampoures  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello
>> I’m looking for a piano mover – any references?
>> Thanks! 
>> Sofia 
>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Follow up: Parent Dissatisfaction Survey

[Jennifer Saffran]

For context, the Mass. Education Reform Act passed in 1993. This legislation 
eventually made Mass. schools competitive with other states with excellent to 
good public schools, such as NY. I am assuming that the survey results attached 
do not reflect that reform.

Since then, state curriculum guidelines and special education law has changed 
many times. While special education may seem irrelevant, on average, in MA, 17% 
of students get some level of individualized instruction.

> On Feb 7, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Stephen R. Low  
> wrote:
> 
> Last week, I posted a message to LincolnTalk that discussed the notorious 
> (well, it was “notorious back then, and I have the press clippings to prove 
> it!) 1994 survey of Brooks School parents of that year’s eighth grade 
> graduates. Last week’s message contained several attachments, two of which 
> were summaries of the Report’s findings.
>  
> The complete 53-page Survey Report was still in the Lincoln Public Library, 
> and yesterday I learned that it was scanned and posted on their website: 
> https://www.lincolnpl.org/images/pdf/Report_on_a_Survey_of_Parent_Satisfaction_with_the_Brooks_School_by_Stephen_R_Low_1994.pdf
>  
> 
>  
> This morning, I spotted two documents on my hard drive that relate to our 
> efforts in 1994, and they are attached:
>  
> An op ed regarding math education published in the Lincoln Journal (December 
> 15, 1994) 
> An article promoting the importance and value of parent surveys in the 
> March/April, 1995 edition of the Lincoln Review (the predecessor to the  
> Lincoln Chipmunk).
>  
> And, when I opened a box full of press clippings and material from that 
> campaign, I spotted a poignant post card received from a then (and still) 
> prominent Lincoln resident related to algebra, which I’ve scanned and pasted 
> below the Lincoln Journal op ed. So sad.
>  
> I had earlier written that school improvement is no longer my issue, but if 
> anyone wishes to contact me privately, feel free to do so.
>  
> Regards,
> Steve Low
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center space utilization and cost as input vs output

[Jennifer Saffran]

FYI: The Town of Lincoln no longer owns the DeCordova. The Trustees of the 
Reservation are the owners now.

> On Nov 16, 2022, at 5:57 PM, ROY HARVEY  wrote:
> 
> Appendix D (Program Schedule Matrix) and Appendix O (A day in the life of the 
> Lincoln CC, excerpted below) of the 2018 report by the architects show the 
> many anticipated uses of the CC spaces throughout the day.  Utilization of 
> these spaces reaches high levels. 
> 
> Many activities would greatly benefit from new, purpose-built spaces.  
> However, some of the activities appear to be doable in existing buildings 
> (especially if they don't need COAHS/PRD staff to lead or supervise). These 
> include foreign language conversation, chess club, bridge, and others.  (I 
> have not attended any of these so am not aware of particular needs.)
> 
> Sorry if this has already been asked or answered, but can some of the program 
> activities use other, existing spaces, e.g., the school, Hartwell main 
> building and pods, Bemis, Pierce House, Library, DeCordova, etc, and reduce 
> the square footage needed in the CC? 
> 
> Also, was cost an input to (that is, a constraint on) the architect's 
> process, or are estimated costs outputs of the process?
> 
> Best regards,
> Roy Harvey
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/2022 4:50 PM Allen Vander Meulen > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have no doubt the CCBC and Selectboard are well aware there is 
>> considerable concern over the costs of the Community Center project - more 
>> than enough to kill the project if costs are too high. And I know they do 
>> not want to waste time designing a facility that will never be built. I 
>> think we can and should trust them to be good stewards of the town’s 
>> available funds.
>> 
>> Also, given that this is the early stages of the project, it is far better - 
>> from a project management point of view - to not overly-constrain the 
>> process. We need to see what the costs of building the Community Center we 
>> want / need really are, and how various options will affect that cost. A 
>> similar approach was done for the school project, resulting in three options 
>> (at various price points) being presented to the town for a vote.
>> 
>> I am certain the CCBC will pursue a similar strategy. So there is no need to 
>> set a “cap” at this time; and in my opinion doing so will compromise the end 
>> result in ways that no one will be happy with.
>> 
>> - Allen Vander Meulen
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2022, at 16:11, Sara Mattes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rob, et al.
>>> We could vote for the money, with a caveat-that the next step include a cap 
>>> on total costs.
>>> Bob Mason has suggested a $15 million cap as that was the top end of the 
>>> projected costs when we last visited numbers, and was a number that many, 
>>> at the time were comfortable with.
>>> 
>>> Without such caveat, there is no guarantee that the design iterations will 
>>> come anywhere close to that figure.
>>> 
>>> I suspect, like most, am bound by a budget/limit on what I can expend on 
>>> construction, remodeling and/or renovations in my own home.
>>> Perhaps we can do that, as a town too.
>>> 
>>> Your offer to lead fundraising is laudable, but we would need to raise $10 
>>> million in order to bring the price tag back to what had been seen has the 
>>> upper limit.
>>> Would we old off voting on a bond until that goal was reached.
>>> I am not sure how this could work.
>>> 
>>> If we do not, we continue to challenge the budgets of many and create a 
>>> climate that limits opportunities for economic diversity in our community.
>>> If we are committed to diversity, as we espouse to be, we must walk our 
>>> talk, have our actions match our words, and budget accordingly.
>>> 
>>> I look forward to hearing more from others tonight.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sara
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 16, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Rob >>> > wrote:
 
 From what I heard Jonathan Dwyer say last night, at this point there are 
 NO budgets, and there are no final plans for the Community Center. The 
 $325K is intended to hire an outside architect to work with the CCBC to 
 review the options that were worked out from 2018, and to ALSO 
 add/subtract features and consider learnings we’ve had over the last 3 
 years, and to consider new information (cost, etc…) to come up with a plan 
 to present to the town again at the next town meeting. Ideally it would be 
 something we could vote on to continue the process.
 
 A “no” vote for this money prevents Lincoln from having the benefit of an 
 (outside) expert to come up with a new plan that fits with post-COVID 
 learnings and today’s financial reality and stops the process in its 
 tracks.
 
 I for one will vote to support the town’s request to spend this money on 
 assessing the 2018 plans to see if they are 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Your recommendations for kitchen design

[Jennifer Saffran]

We did our entire kitchen in IKEA, but that was mid-2020 before supply chain 
issues got very bad. I have no idea if they have recovered. We are still very 
pleased with these cabinets. IMO, very good if you are looking for a 
contemporary/Modernist look. The top cabinets are deeper than most American 
cabinets. Also, IKEA has a lot of accessories that coordinate with the drawers 
and cabinets to maximize storage. We also did their under-counter and 
in-cabinet lighting.

You can meet up at the Stoughton store with a kitchen planner. It’s necessary 
to do this as they have access to inventory that you would not get through the 
regular store website. FYI: they have two types of product—one for inexpensive 
apartment-type installations, and then longer term residential lines. We put 
all of the cabinets together ourselves. Get a power screwdriver...

As for flooring, I highly recommend Flooring America on Rte. 9 in Natick, 
westbound side. We used pre-finished oak flooring from Canada, and laminated 
cork for other areas. We did use Lumber Liquidators for basement flooring 
(click vinyl laminated planking).

We, too, had a pipe burst. Unbelievably destructive.

Yes, very good idea to carefully look at sink and bathroom pipes, replacing 
them, even if you think they are still good enough. A friend of mine had what 
she realized too late was a slow tiny leak for years. Her meticulously 
maintained bath fixtures were 50 years old. Now, 5 months later, her work is 
done. From the upstairs bath, through the LR, all the way to the basement, she 
had to replace walls, flooring, ceilings, insulation, etc., through the three 
floors. It would have been cheaper to just replace the still functioning vanity 
and faucet. Stuff corrodes and then it leaks…..

> On Nov 27, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Sara Levine  wrote:
> 
> Hi neighbors, 
> 
> In the aftermath of an unfortunate leak, we are looking  for recommendations 
> for someone to help with kitchen redesign and/ or your positive experiences 
> with local cabinet & flooring stores?  
> 
> Also, public service announcement… peek under your kitchen sink more often 
> than you do!:) 
> 
> Be well all.
> 
> Thanks, 
> Sara 
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths

[Jennifer Saffran]

Like Woodward Avenue, Detroit. The first road made of concrete in the US. It’s 
about 4 lanes wide in both directions, separated by an island. The idea was to 
build the kind of roads that were grand avenues in 20th century cities. You see 
that even in NYC as you go north.

> On Nov 27, 2022, at 4:39 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> "U.S. had built: wide roads, even in city centers, that seemed to invite 
> speeding."
>  Not true in Lincoln. 
> Neither straight nor wide.
> 
> 
> "What the U.S. can do to change this is obvious, advocates say: like 
> outfitting trucks with side underride guards to prevent people from being 
> pulled underneath, or narrowing the roads that cars share with bikes so that 
> drivers intuit they should drive slower."
> Lincoln roads are narrow and winding as they follow the design of our 
> earliest “roads”-cart paths.
> Those paths were designed to avoid arable land and wetlands and be as narrow 
> as possible. 
> 
> If, indeed, narrow roads reduce speeds, perhaps we should consider leaving 
> the roadside uncut and create an even greater perception of a narrow road.
> 
> Sara
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2022, at 1:36 PM, John Mendelson  wrote:
>> 
>> The Exceptionally American Problem of Rising Roadway Deaths 
>> 
>> https://nyti.ms/3i6DS8Q 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Jennifer Saffran]

Regarding “open space”, I am more familiar with one of these towns—Bolton. 
Bolton has a number of commercial farms and orchards. So, while it appears that 
there is open space, it’s taxable land. I do not know what the tax rate for 
working farms are.  A quick search shows there are at least 20 working farms in 
Bolton. Likewise, Harvard has 19. Therefore, the numbers may not be so 
comparable.

> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Adam M Hogue  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, this chart shows it the best.  Towns with our population generally do 
> not have a large community center because they do not have the tax base or 
> population to support it.  
> 
> Adam M Hogue
> Cell:  <>(978) 828-6184 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2022, at 2:12 PM, Karla Gravis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Rich,
>> 
>> While the hypothesis you presented seems reasonable, the facts show 
>> otherwise. If you look at the site you just linked, there are many Greater 
>> Boston Area towns in that list with lower population density than Lincoln, 
>> lots of open space, very little commercial base AND much lower property 
>> taxes. None of the towns in the table below are contemplating a $25M 
>> Community Center. 
>> 
>> Note: I have taken the population and density data from the site you linked 
>> and the average property tax rate is from the Department of Revenue 
>> https://dlsgateway.dor.state.ma.us/reports/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=AverageSingleTaxBill.SingleFamTaxBill_wRange
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rich Rosenbaum > > wrote:
>> 
>> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes 
>> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns 
>> is our low housing density.
>> 
>> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land 
>> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more. 
>> 
>> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If you 
>> have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less 
>> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The 
>> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>> 
>> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>> 
>> Here are some statistics from this site 
>>  (not sure 
>> of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>> 
>> TownPopulation / sq. mile
>> Bedford 926.37
>> Wayland 819.52
>> Sudbury 683.63
>> Weston  664.03
>> Concord 656.11
>> Lincoln 359.11
>> 
>> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Anonymous Mailing

[Jennifer Saffran]

It says it’s a normal town like anywhere else. Stuff like this happens in any 
town when there is a suggestion to spend money on large projects. 

> On Nov 29, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Richard Panetta  
> wrote:
> 
> I haven’t seen this mailing so I can speak to it but if it had decent points 
> on why we shouldn’t vote for it what does that say about the town that people 
> were “afraid” to publicly put their name on something that goes against the 
> norm?  
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 11:54 AM Barbara Low  > wrote:
> I just looked through my email today and found a town-wide mailing against 
> the Community Center proposal.
> 
> Not a single name appears on this mailing piece. It is hard to take seriously 
> those who are either too embarrassed or afraid to identify themselves. Who 
> paid for this mailing? Are these Lincoln residents?
> 
> Will someone take "credit" now?
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

[Jennifer Saffran]

No. This kind of study, where options are explored, is how building projects 
work. Anywhere.

To be clear, the vote is on the study. Period. 

Now, obviously, if a voter feels that such a center should not be built, then 
vote no. If a voter wants more information of what can be bought for how many 
dollars, siting concerns, etc., then vote for the study.

Exploring private philanthropy is premature.

> On Nov 29, 2022, at 12:09 PM, Elizabeth Goldsmith  
> wrote:
> 
> I, too, am concerned that commitments for private funding are not further 
> along. I would feel a lot better about the financial aspect of the proposal 
> if we understood if (and how much) would be supported either by private 
> individuals or foundations. After so many year of discussion, I would have 
> thought the funding for the project would be part of the proposal.
> -Original Message-
> From: Laura Crosby 
> Sent: Nov 29, 2022 12:06 PM
> To: Sara Mattes 
> Cc: Lincoln Talk 
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center
> 
>  
> It is in early process behind the scenes. They have consulted with 
> development  pros. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 29, 2022, at 10:28 AM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Waiting is not necessary.
> It is not uncommon for a plan to be in place, with someone designated to lead 
> and a target amount to be raised, initial donors identified and worked with.
> When such fundraising is announced, a substantial sum is already “in the 
> bank."
>  
> There are several accomplished fundraisers in town, and several other 
> individuals who raise large sums on a regular basis from Lincoln residents 
> for local organizations.
> Before the promise of private fundraising is offered to those about to vote, 
> a foundation for the appeal needs to be in place.
>  
> To date, we are told, no such groundwork has been done.
> --
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>  
>  
> 
> On Nov 29, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Laura Crosby  wrote:
> 
> Private fundraising has not begun yet. They are waiting for next step of 
> project to advance so they will better know what the final project will be. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 29, 2022, at 8:24 AM, Carol Ryan  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to share the amount that has thus far been promised from 
> private funding?
>  
> Thank you, Carol R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 28, 2022, at 11:14 PM, Barbara Low  wrote:
> 
> Well said!
>  
> Barbara Low
> From: Lincoln  on behalf of Laura Crosby 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 9:30 PM
> To: Lincoln Talks 
> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center
>  
> Whatever we do, wherever we build it and whatever it costs let us not lose 
> this opportunity to build a much needed Community Center ( or Village Hall as 
> some Europeans call it ). There has been a tremendous amount of thought, 
> time, resources and consensus through multiple committees over ten years to 
> develop a plan at Hartwell.  If we vote no on allocating money for 
> architecture and engineering relook/ revamp of existing plans we will have to 
> eventually duplicate dollars for services we have already purchased. 
> My hope is that we can relook at the work that has been done and find a way 
> to reduce costs to a palatable level. Then let’s see what the private 
> fundraising group can do to help reduce taxes further on the project. 
> History shows that a community center can unite a community, offer 
> educational opportunities, provide much needed facilities, promote health and 
> well-being,
> encourage creativity and culture, enhance the ability to share valuable 
> information,
> support a wide variety of community projects, combat loneliness, positively 
> affect lives of younger people, provide volunteer activities.
>  Now more than ever we live in challenging times that require us to pull 
> together to bring as much community support as possible to all of our Lincoln 
> residents. 
> I hope you will consider voting
> YES on Wednesday evening. 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] new look at community

[Jennifer Saffran]

Intergenerational community is “engineered” in places like the Netherlands when 
they build programs and facilities. It’s socially and democratically useful for 
everyone.

> On Dec 2, 2022, at 8:23 AM, John Kimball  wrote:
> 
> I have a hope that the so-called community building committee, perhaps 
> supplemented by some open-minded initials, will have a fresh look at the 
> whole issue. I think that joining the kiddoes with the seniors doesn't make 
> sense just because they both have a need, and the pod location doesn't 
> necessarily make any sense for the seniors, who would be better off at a 
> creatively expanded Bemis or the mall area. In any event the 
> door/bathroom/privacy/parking problems at Bemis could be taken care of 
> without a new building. I have been to Bemis quite a lot and not noticed much 
> overcrowding, and the kiddoes should not be placed near the good 
> cookies/pastery there. 
> It was good to be back at the auditorium with the mostly gray haired town 
> meeting crowd, who aren't afraid of a storm; one good thing the school 
> project accomplished was to remove those swing arm rests on the seats. John 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] on property taxes

[Jennifer Saffran]

I have not heard of alternative funding, but what you are describing is a 
lament that I’ve heard in Cambridge and certainly in Chestnut Hill when we 
moved to Brookline in the early 90s. Those huge Georgian houses on small lots 
were built in the 1920s, so by the time the 90s rolled around, most were in 
rough shape. The elderly children of the original owners could not afford the 
upkeep. One would see arbor vitaes obscuring second floor windows and wood 
gutters with Greek dental molding falling off the slate and copper roofs. There 
was much discussion about the ever rising taxes forcing people out of their 
family homes. 

On the other hand, the windfall from the eventual sales netted the heirs a big 
check. Or the owners if the decided that a 6,000K sf house with carriage house 
and (small) grounds really was unmanageable. 

Point is, it’s more about the lifecycle of buildings than unique to Lincoln.



> On Dec 5, 2022, at 8:06 PM, Jane Appell  wrote:
> 
> One of the problems that I have been thinking about is the way in which 
> increases in property taxes to fund projects such as a community center may 
> be unfair and may well  have an adverse effect on those you are trying most 
> to service. It is simply not a correct assumption to assume that income or 
> ability to pay is correlated with the assessed value of a house, or that all 
> projects need to be funded by increasing the property tax rate.  
> 
> Since a third of the population is over 60, it stands to reason that many of 
> the older population have been in their homes a long time. I include myself 
> in this. I know I am not alone in my income going down and my finding it 
> harder and harder to support my home as well as paying  ever increasing 
> taxes.  For some of us, the taxes are verging on making staying here 
> unsustainable. 
> 
> Someone in a small house or an apartment in town will have the same ability 
> to use a community center and its services as an older person in an expensive 
> house.  The latter person will pay many times more for the project than the 
> person in the lower price home if the tax rate increases to fund the project. 
> 
> Are there other models to consider for funding projects besides increasing 
> property taxes on a percentage basis?
> 
> Jane
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Rich Rosenbaum > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> There has been a bit of discussion regarding LIncoln's property taxes 
>> compared to other towns. One reason taxes may be higher than similar towns 
>> is our low housing density.
>> 
>> Lincoln has consciously and deliberately limited density with land 
>> acquisition, zoning regulations, agricultural easements and more. 
>> 
>> The result is that there are fewer houses to distribute fixed costs. If you 
>> have two similar towns with the same number of miles of road, the less 
>> housing-dense town will pay more per family to maintain those roads. The 
>> same goes for many other services provided by the town.
>> 
>> All of this wonderful open space that we all enjoy is not free.
>> 
>> Here are some statistics from this site 
>>  (not sure 
>> of the date but I assume it does not change quickly):
>> 
>> TownPopulation / sq. mile
>> Bedford 926.37
>> Wayland 819.52
>> Sudbury 683.63
>> Weston  664.03
>> Concord 656.11
>> Lincoln 359.11
>> 
>> Our limited commercial base is also a factor.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] more on the epidemic of pedestrian and cyclist fatalities

[Jennifer Saffran]

This is interesting. My stepfather was Dutch. We didn’t get to go as frequently 
as we liked, but we spent quite a bit of time there in the 1970s, with another 
short trip in the late 80s. From the. 70s trip, I remember everyone was cycling 
everywhere to do all their daily commutes and errands. My cousin even took her 
toddler to the pediatrician in his bike seat. She was wearing a modest skirt 
and short heels. And this was normal. No lycra anywhere. The bike parking at 
the downtown shopping areas, or where train stations were a sea of nearly 
identical black bikes, different only with baskets or other carriers, or a 
ribbon here or there to differentiate. What I remember is that using the car 
seemed to be the exception, not the rule in day-to-day living. Of course, 
houses are close together, distances short, and it’s flat. And rain? They 
didn’t stop for rain. It was clear that bike culture proceeded the norm of 
every middle class family owning a car. No way teens and young adults owned 
cars. 

My point is that the acceptance of bikes went on for decades before so much 
construction needed to happen.




> On Dec 6, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:
> 
> From a recent Economist:
> 
> ..consider the Dutch approach to bicycles. Dollops of funding on 
> bike-friendly infrastructure makes pedalling safer in the Netherlands. So 
> does an inventive rule, codified in 1994: in a collision between a car and a 
> cyclist, motorists are assumed to be at fault unless they can prove 
> otherwise. Only truly reckless cyclists are made to share the blame. Dutch 
> drivers thus treat bike-riders as if they were carrying an infectious 
> disease, giving them the required wide berth. Better yet, whereas motorists 
> in other countries furiously object to new cycle lanes, Dutch ones welcome 
> them, since segregating two-wheelers reduces the chance of a costly accident. 
> Rates of cycling in the Netherlands have increased sharply—and 
> deaths-per-mile-pedalled have plummeted.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:06 PM John Mendelson  > wrote:
> So while road design definitely plays a part in this 10+ year terrible trend, 
> speed and vehicle design are also to blame.  Two mainstream media outlets 
> weigh in:
> 
> Fast Company:  Should We Ban SUVs? 
>  
> 
> Vox: A Driver Killed Her Daughter.  She Won't Let the World Forget  
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] more on the epidemic of pedestrian and cyclist fatalities

[Jennifer Saffran]

Madison, WI. 



> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> It would be helpful to have some examples from countries that had more 
> opens-paces and rural settings…some  place that looks more like us.
> I saw amazing infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians in Florence, but I 
> would not thing to try and translate those initiative to Lincoln…maybe some  
> more of the most densely developed urban areas of the US, but most of the US 
> could not implement these techniques.
> 
> Where are there some applicable examples?
> 
> Sara
> 
> --
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Rich Rosenbaum  wrote:
>> 
>> From a recent Economist:
>> 
>> ..consider the Dutch approach to bicycles. Dollops of funding on 
>> bike-friendly infrastructure makes pedalling safer in the Netherlands. So 
>> does an inventive rule, codified in 1994: in a collision between a car and a 
>> cyclist, motorists are assumed to be at fault unless they can prove 
>> otherwise. Only truly reckless cyclists are made to share the blame. Dutch 
>> drivers thus treat bike-riders as if they were carrying an infectious 
>> disease, giving them the required wide berth. Better yet, whereas motorists 
>> in other countries furiously object to new cycle lanes, Dutch ones welcome 
>> them, since segregating two-wheelers reduces the chance of a costly 
>> accident. Rates of cycling in the Netherlands have increased sharply—and 
>> deaths-per-mile-pedalled have plummeted.
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:06 PM John Mendelson > > wrote:
>> So while road design definitely plays a part in this 10+ year terrible 
>> trend, speed and vehicle design are also to blame.  Two mainstream media 
>> outlets weigh in:
>> 
>> Fast Company:  Should We Ban SUVs? 
>>  
>> 
>> Vox: A Driver Killed Her Daughter.  She Won't Let the World Forget  
>> 
>>  
>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Gluten Free Candy

[Jennifer Saffran]

Major candy companies like Hershey’s will put “may contain nuts” on the 
wrapper. Same with M & Ms. They don’t, but for legal reasons, they decided to 
do this. I have two (now adult) kids with food allergies, one of whom is 
allergic to peanuts, and as far as I know, you can venture into giving out 
chocolate from major without worries. But hey, I’m all in for Swedish Fish any 
day.

Happy Halloween!

> On Oct 31, 2024, at 9:43 AM, Ginger Reiner  wrote:
> 
>> Should I  to put a sign out saying my candy might contain nuts and gluten?
> 
> I don't think that's necessary as long as your candy is wrapped.  
> 
> But to add to Liz's info, if you want to include treats in your basket that 
> most kids with allergies can have, these are some lists:
> 
> 
> 
> https://nwamotherlode.com/12-trick-or-treat-candies-that-are-allergy-friendly/
> 
> https://www.tastingtable.com/1055537/allergen-friendly-treats-to-stock-up-on-for-halloween/
> 
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:18 AM Sara Mattes  > wrote:
>> Should I  to put a sign out saying my candy might contain nuts and gluten?
>> Embarrassed to say I had never thought of it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 31, 2024, at 8:05 AM, E Lieblich >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, 
>>> 
>>> If you need a general list of Gluten Free candy, this is a great place to 
>>> start:
>>> 
>>> https://www.celiackidsconnection.org/2017/10/09/candy-guide/
>>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Exploring the Holy Land Problem: Friday, Dec 6 and Saturday, Dec 7

[Jennifer Saffran]

Drag queens are not perverts. 

Five years olds are creative, openminded, expressive little people.

All choices of dress are costumes with signifiers, etc. One could say that a 
Lincolnite in a pair of LLBean jeans, Merrill mocs, and a Patagonia jacket is 
doing “drag” of a different sort. That same costume that is accepted here is 
mocked in other places. Drag queens just happen to express certain cliches 
about femininity in an exaggerated way. 

> On Nov 30, 2024, at 9:36 AM, V Saleme  wrote:
> 
> "Honestly, I am shocked Bemis Hall would host an event where the description 
> has such strong inflammatory language, which could be construed as an attack 
> on a specific population, of which we have citizens living in Lincoln"
> 
> This is the same Bemis Hall that believes it's OK to host and subject your 
> FIVE year old to 'drag show' event perverts.
> Gee, wonder 'why' children might be 'confused'
> 
> Vic
> 
> On Fri, Nov 29, 2024 at 11:32 PM Rosa Elena  > wrote:
>> The description of the event (in the pdf attached to the original email and 
>> copied below for context) is pretty one-sided and not conducive to 
>> “thoughtful discussion” with multiple perspectives. Honestly, I am shocked 
>> Bemis Hall would host an event where the description has such strong 
>> inflammatory language, which could be construed as an attack on a specific 
>> population, of which we have citizens living in Lincoln.
>> 
>> From the event description:
>>  
>> “The Gaza genocide that began over a year ago has morphed into Israel’s 
>> three-front strategy to expand its borders and replace non-Jews living in 
>> Gaza, Lebanon, and the West Bank with an army, citizens militia, and Jewish 
>> settlements. Based on past, aggressively pro-Zionist policies, an incoming 
>> Trump administration appears ready to confirm Israel as a Jewish 
>> supremacist/apartheid state, and to further subjugate or eliminate non-Jews 
>> living in a Greater Israel. In calling for an end to Israeli apartheid and 
>> for a shared homeland for all, we join the struggle against the rise of 
>> authoritarianism in Europe, the Global South, and the United States. Zionism 
>> today, as ideology, theology and political project, has emerged as an 
>> expression of neocolonialism, Christian nationalism, and fascism.”
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 12:33 PM Annamaria San Antonio 
>> mailto:into...@jaikaurhealingarts.com>> 
>> wrote:
>>> Agreed.  Thank you, Sara !!!
>>> I did not see this at all as propaganda and very much appreciated hearing 
>>> about an event with thoughtful discussion. Dangerous ?  Perhaps I did not 
>>> read through but I did not see "false claims of genocide and apartheid".
>>> 
>>> Peace
>>> ~Jai .
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 4:38 PM Sara Mattes >> > wrote:
 I would urge all to  listen/attend before passing judgement.
 We have few opportunities to hear rom and question directly such 
 individuals with direct experience.
 
 Perhaps those objecting are familiar with the speakers and would like to 
 share their experiences so that others might know what to expect?
 
 Let’s keep an open mind and allow others to judge for themselves.
 
 Namaste,
 Sara
 
> On Nov 27, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jonathan Sheffi  > wrote:
> 
> Amen, Forest. Ideological diversity is well and good, but let's please 
> keep LT apolitical and free from this sort of low-grade propaganda.
> ᐧ
> 
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 11:47 AM Forest Brown  > wrote:
>> I appreciate your wanting dialogue on this issue, but advertising 
>> speakers who are sharing false claims of genocide and apartheid is 
>> dangerous and this isn’t the platform for that.
>> 
>>> On Nov 27, 2024, at 9:07 AM, Stephen R. Low 
>>> mailto:steve@gordianconcepts.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve Low
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Stephen R. Low >> > 
>>> Sent: November 27, 2024 9:07 AM
>>> Subject: Exploring the Holy Land Problem: Friday, Dec 6 and Saturday, 
>>> Dec 7
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Palestinians, Israeli Jews, and those of us who care about them have 
>>> never faced challenges greater than today’s.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Contributing to this mess has been the Biden administration’s Holy Land 
>>> policies, which have been—shall I be polite and say, “awkward?”
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Now, we await a Trump administration, whose 2016–2020 Israel policies 
>>> were so ill-considered and unbalanced, that many believe they helped to 
>>> incite Hamas’s murderous attack on October 7, 2023.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These “realities” pose major challenges for all of us 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Exploring the Holy Land Problem: Friday, Dec 6 and Saturday, Dec 7

[Jennifer Saffran]

Also, many Jews go back and forth between Israel and other countries, or have 
close relatives in both places. IDK any American or Canadian Jewish person that 
I can think of who does not have a relative in Israel. Having said that, IDK a 
single Jewish person who supports Netanyahu. (There may be someone in the US or 
Canada , but I don’t know them.)

> On Dec 3, 2024, at 5:01 PM, Seth Rosen  wrote:
> 
> Paul - there are many Jews who take issue with Israel’s government (American 
> and Israeli), and many others who take issue with her approach. I see no 
> issue with that dialogue, and I know for a fact that it occurs in many and 
> possibly every Jewish household including my own. 
> 
> That doesn’t change the fact that Israel hate and Jew hate are mostly the 
> same thing. It’s a fairly straightforward connection, and it can appear a 
> little disingenuous when folks don’t acknowledge it. People who have anger 
> toward Israel also have anger toward the Jews.  Her enemies don’t simply wish 
> to eliminate Israel the State… they seek to eliminate every Jew that lives 
> within her borders.  The so-called colonizers and zionists to which the event 
> description refers. 
> 
> Israel is the national homeland of the Jewish people.  It’s a majority Jewish 
> country.  It’s the only country explicitly established to provide safety and 
> security for Jews after literally millennia of persecution. 
> 
> The type of vitriolic propaganda (from the river to the sea, and the like) 
> contained in this talk is the same type that calls for the elimination of the 
> state of Israel and all the Jews in it.  
> 
> It seems like what you’re arguing is that American Jews are just very 
> different than the Israeli Jews, and you’re just talking about “the Israeli 
> ones.”  It’s dangerous. We are the same people.  
> 
> The Jews over in Israel are the same people who fled persecution less than 
> 100 years ago. After the war, the very few that survived (including a 
> fortunate few in my own family) made their way there and oversaw the 
> formation, defense, and construction of the State.
> 
> The Jews here in the US (the second largest population of Jews outside of 
> Israel) are also a relatively new phenomenon.  It wasn’t until 1880 that Jews 
> came here in any significant number, fleeing persecution in Europe, Russia 
> and elsewhere.  
> 
> So to put a finer point on it — people historically haven’t liked us very 
> much.  And they’ve been trying to kill us for a long time. As a result, we 
> haven’t been able to get settled down in any one place for too long because 
> of that fact.  We don’t get too comfortable, because history suggests we 
> shouldn’t.  
> 
> So we’re a little sensitive to hate mongering because we’ve seen how it ends 
> up, and we know history tends to repeat itself. 
> 
> Seth Rosen 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2024, at 10:26 AM, Paul Shorb  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes the speakers may intend to generate anger at Israel. Or at least 
>> recognize that will be a foreseeable reaction. 
>> 
>> However, you lose me when you then add “and by extension the Jewish 
>> community”. What is your basis for inferring that intent? And what do you 
>> mean by “the Jewish community”?  I note that many Jews condemn Israel’s 
>> treatment of Gaza. 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 11:55 AM Rosa Elena > > wrote:
>>> While I agree that we should not censor good faith discussions on difficult 
>>> topics, can we really say that that the intent of this specific meeting is 
>>> in “good faith”? Let’s take a look at the invitation (please look at the 
>>> pdf with the actual description of the event). It says things like the 
>>> following:
>>> 
>>> “… confirm Israel as a Jewish supremacist/apartheid state, and to further 
>>> subjugate or eliminate non-Jews living in a Greater Israel.”
>>> 
>>> “Zionism today (…) has emerged as an expression of neocolonialism, 
>>> Christian nationalism, and fascism.”
>>> 
>>> Using words and phrases like supremacist, Apartheid, elimination of 
>>> non-Jews, fascism - is that “good-faith criticism” or hyperbolic language 
>>> meant to incense and generate anger/fear of Israel and by extension the 
>>> Jewish community? I am all for a fact-based discussion with multiple 
>>> perspectives, but that does not seem to be the goal of this talk.
>>> 
>>> I don’t think the “real-life risk” of hate crimes due to this type of 
>>> language is as low as some might like to think it is. To me, the fact that 
>>> these “experts” chose to use this type of tired rethoric instead of 
>>> fact-based and rational arguments diminishes their respectability, and yes, 
>>> I find it dangerous.
>>> 
>>> - Rosa
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 6:07 PM Joan Kimball >> > wrote:
 Thank you Paul. A very thoughtful, clear  response that, for me, puts 
 these very difficult issues in perspective.  
 
 Joan
 
 On Mon, Dec 2, 2024, 12:46 PM Paul Shor

Re: [LincolnTalk] End of an Era for BLFF

[Jennifer Saffran]

I was a tour guide at the ICA. They no longer have this program. It is 
difficult to explain the impact, importance, and excellence of the collection 
that she gifted to the ICA. She opened minds as well as doors.

> On Dec 3, 2024, at 4:10 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> Many of us remember when Barbara was just another mom on the soccer field.
> 
> Lincoln women move on and up, lifting  those behind them.
> 
> Huzzah!!!
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Amanda Hunter - Barbara Lee Family Foundation 
>> Subject: End of an Era for BLFF
>> Date: December 3, 2024 at 1:23:15 PM EST
>> To: Sara 
>> Reply-To: Amanda Hunter - Barbara Lee Family Foundation 
>> 
>> 
>> View this email in your browser 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Sara,
>> 
>> After 25 years, the Barbara Lee Family Foundation has closed.
>> 
>> Through its groundbreaking research, partnerships, and investments, the 
>> Foundation has influenced the national conversation about women’s leadership 
>> and led the effort to bring American politics and contemporary art closer to 
>> gender parity.
>> 
>> When Barbara Lee started the Foundation in 1998 to advance women’s equality 
>> and representation in the fields of American politics and contemporary art, 
>> just 63 women 
>> 
>>  were serving in the U.S. House and the Senate, compared to 152 women today 
>> .
>>  Through its groundbreaking research, partnerships, and investments, the 
>> Foundation has influenced the national conversation about women’s leadership 
>> and led the effort to bring American politics and contemporary art closer to 
>> gender parity. Today, a record 12 women serve as governor 
>> ,
>>  and almost half 
>> 
>>  of the country's lieutenant governors are women.
>> 
>> Barbara has been passionate about elevating women artists and supporting 
>> public access to art. She recognized early on that, as in politics, women 
>> face structural barriers in the art world. Barbara Lee was a long-time board 
>> member at the Institute of Contemporary Art (ICA) in Boston and presented 
>> the ICA with approximately one-third 
>> 
>>  of the works in the permanent collection—all work by women artists. The 
>> Barbara Lee Collection of Art by Women 
>> 
>>  is a cornerstone of the museum’s collection. She has also donated works to 
>> Boston’s Museum of Fine Arts. Through its grant programs, the Foundation 
>> supported dozens of museum exhibits featuring women artists across the 
>> country.
>> 
>> Over the last 25 years, the Barbara Lee Family Foundation has been committed 
>> to conducting research on the opportunities and obstacles women in politics 
>> face, including a deep dive on every governor’s race with a major party 
>> woman candidate. It has shared its findings and analysis with students, 
>> faculty, the media, and leaders and staff at all levels and regardless of 
>> party affiliation. It has worked with local and national partners on dozens 
>> of projects to better understand how voters perceive women leaders as a 
>> result of their gender and race.
>> 
>> The research will remain on the BLFF website 
>> .
>>  American University’s Women & Politics Institute will continue our 
>> successful joint project Gender on the Ballot 
>> ,
>>  which examines and contextualizes gender dynamics in politics.
>> 
>> We are proud of the work we’ve done over the years, the gains we’ve seen for 
>> women’s representation, and the growing number of organizations supporting 
>> women’s leadership.
>> 
>> Thank you to everyone who supported our efforts throughout the years. We 
>> will be cheering you on from the sidelines as you pick up the torch and 
>> continue to light the path forward for women in politics.
>> 
>> 
>> With Gratitude,
>> Amanda Hunter
>> BLPO Executive Director
>> The Barbara Lee Family Foundation has sunset and is closed as of December 
>> 2024.
>> 
>> For over two decades, the Barbara Lee Family Foundation was the only 
>> organization dedicated to specifically studying women running for executive 
>> office on both sides of the aisle. Elected officials, cand

Re: [LincolnTalk] Keeping an open mind-

[Jennifer Saffran]

My friend, who lives in Bedford, his brother was one of the ones killed at the 
Tree of Life synagogue listed below. What happens to one person affects us all.

Despite what JS just posted, there are legal limits to hate speech. 

An easy and reputable way to find info on hate groups, etc. SPLC collects 
reliable intel. https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map

> On Dec 3, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Sheffi  wrote:
> 
> >>>  Has any Jew  been killed in the US for being Jewish?
> 
> I'm glad you asked! Here are the incidents I'm aware of. I only included ones 
> in the United States, not other countries.
> In 1960, a neo-Nazi in Alabama took an entire synagogue hostage, eventually 
> killing two.
> In 1977, a white supremacist in St Louis shot up a bar mitzvah, killing one 
> and injuring several others.
> In 1977, a member of the Nation of Islam took 149 Jewish hostages in DC, 
> though police eventually ended the situation with no casualties.
> In 1991, there was the Crown Heights riot, one of the first known pogroms in 
> the United States.
> In 1999, someone shot up the LA Jewish Community Center, wounding five.
> In 2000, a Palestinian nationalist burned a temple in NY to the ground.
> In 2002, a Palestinian nationalist walked up to the El Al ticket counter at 
> LAX and opened fire on everyone in line. He killed one ticket agent and one 
> passenger.
> In 2006, a Pakistani-American man walked into the Seattle Jewish Federation 
> and opened fire, shooting six women and killing one.
> In 2009, a white supremacist went to the United States Holocaust Museum in DC 
> and opened fire, killing one of the guards.
> In 2014, a white supremacist went to the Jewish Community Center in Overland 
> Park and killed three people.
> In 2016, an Islamic extremist went to an Israeli restaurant in Columbus OH 
> and started swinging a machete at everyone, wounding four.
> In 2018, a white supremacist killed eleven people at the Tree of Life 
> Synagogue in Pittsburgh. It is (so far) the deadliest attack on a local 
> Jewish community in history.
> In 2019, a white supremacist killed one and injured three at a synagogue in 
> Poway CA.
> In 2019, a man shot up a kosher store in Jersey City, killing three and 
> injuring two.
> In 2022, a member of al-Qaeda took an entire synagogue hostage in Colleyville 
> TX.
> In 2023, Paul Kessler was killed by a pro-Palestinian protestor in Los 
> Angeles.
> In 2024, a man tried to run over students outside of a Jewish school in NYC, 
> screaming “I’m gonna kill all the Jews!”
> In 2024, a Mauritanian man shot a Jewish man on his way to synagogue in 
> Chicago, screaming "Allahu Akbar!"
> Hope this helps! If you're also curious about incidents of hatred against 
> Jews that are not limited to death or severe injury, but are instead focused 
> on discrimination, doxxing, death threats, arson, assault, or other forms of 
> hatred, let me know, I can provide you with a longer list. I'm grateful for 
> your intention to better understand the plight of Jews in America.
> 
> BTW, somehow people think that they're being "cancelled" but I don't see 
> anybody attempting to deplatform or cancel this talk. Inviting people to 
> Lincoln who express hate speech against Jews is absolutely within the bounds 
> of the First Amendment. If someone in Lincoln wants to invite David Duke to 
> talk about race relations in the United States, I would not call to cancel 
> his talk, either.
> ᐧ
> 
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 12:08 PM Sara Mattes  > wrote:
>> Exploring the Holy Land Problem: Friday, Dec 6 and Saturday, Dec 7-scroll 
>> down for details.
>> 
>> This is an opportunity to hear from “the other side.”
>> Of course there are bias./opposing opinions and posturing.
>> That is the nature of debates, and certainly we have heard much from 
>> Netanyhu’s position.
>> There are “experts” in they know the issues form their lived experience and 
>> perspective.
>> Most of us have had little exposure to these types of opinions and 
>> presentations.
>> Let’s go hear them and round out the experience.
>> 
>> None of this takes away from the unique horror of Oct.7, not the ongoing 
>> killings of innocent Palestinian civilians by the 10,000s of thousands.
>> 
>> As to "hate crimes,” certainly there has been a rise in antisemitism and it 
>> will grow as the war in Gaza and Lebanon continues.
>> But what is the nature of these crimes?
>> Has any Jew  been killed in the US for being Jewish?
>> This does not mean we should look away and not address anti-semitism, nor 
>> should we look away from racism in all its sordid aspects.
>> 
>> Let us try to not shut down discussion and others opinions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2024, at 11:54 AM, Rosa Elena >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I agree that we should not censor good faith discussions on difficult 
>>> topics, can we really say that that the intent of this specific meeting is 
>>> in “good faith”? Let’s t

Re: [LincolnTalk] Calkins Lawsuit

[Jennifer Saffran]

Dr. Urion is very well known.

This “whole language” problem has been going on all over the state. State and 
federal law demands that kids be educated in their home districts when 
possible. For something like dyslexia, it’s def possible. It also costs the 
districts less, is less disruptive, etc.

> On Dec 7, 2024, at 4:18 PM, t...@kennedygroupboston.com wrote:
> 
> Surprisingly, we’re still having this discussion after at least 30 years. 
> When my son could not read well in the 3rd grade we were told not to worry 
> about it, that he would do just fine. A year later we had him tested at 
> children’s hospital. Dr. David Urion said he was “classic dyslexic.”
> 
> The term for the teaching method used at the school at the time was “whole 
> language”. We were told that students didn’t need phonics, it was almost a 
> dirty word. That was the opposite of what those who understood dyslexia 
> recommended. Several students were in the same situation, and some of those 
> parents were demanding enrollment at the Carroll School paid for by the town.
> 
> My wife had a couple of very constructive meetings with the principal, Joann 
> MacManus, and Joann agreed to hire a “reading specialist” from the Carroll 
> School. (Btw, We learned at the time that just as many girls are dyslexic as 
> boys but since boys tend to act out more they are identified more often.)
> 
> An ed plan and phonics worked out well.
> 
> The summer after his freshman year at college we came home to find my son 
> reading James Joyce. My wife asked him if that was a school assignment and he 
> replied, No. I followed her in another room to find tears in her eyes.
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[LincolnTalk] Pre-schooler ski gear

[Jennifer Saffran]

A friend of mine is search of kid’s alpine gear for a 3-4 year old. The proud 
grandparents took their grandson on the magic carpet but the “buckle on” skis 
were not working out now that the grandson is progressing.

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Re: [LincolnTalk] recommendation -- furniture movers

[Jennifer Saffran]

https://lifetimemovingco.com/?utm_source=GBP&utm_medium=organic

We used them twice—once when moving to Lincoln from a much larger house during 
the worst of the pandemic. They were very careful with our stuff. The only 
issue is that they misjudged how much stuff we actually had. Still, they didn’t 
charge us more and didn’t quit working until everything was done.

I used them recently to take a heavy piece to a consignment shop. I thought 
their price was fair. They handled the piece carefully so that no walls got 
dinged, etc. 

The owner of the company is a youngish man, who married in the pandemic shortly 
after he moved our stuff the first time. His vision is to run an ethical and 
profitable business in Metrowest Boston.

> On Dec 29, 2024, at 9:33 PM, Vicki Konstandakis  
> wrote:
> 
> I recently sold my house and I have to recommend Hector Mendez.  I reached 
> out to him after Joanna’s recommendation years ago!!  He and his team were 
> god-sent. It was a very large and complicated move and I purchased boxes and 
> blankets - they bubble wrapped, blanket wrapped and even built boxes around 
> some of my most delicate and precious pieces. 
> 
> My things are currently in storage and they will move me again to my next 
> home. We are currently still in a hotel!  I have complete confidence in him 
> and his team. 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2024, at 2:36 PM, Seth Rosen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’ve also used Hector (at Joanna’s recommendation) and he’s great. 
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Joanna Schmergel 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For smaller jobs in particular I can’t say enough good things about Hector 
>>> Mendez and his Handy Hands Moving Team.
>>> 
>>> I have 13 years of experience with them.  Many people in Lincoln have hired 
>>> them and have had great experiences as well. 
>>> 
>>> Hector Mendez
>>> 
>>> (857) 212-9476
>>> 
>>> thehandyha...@gmail.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 12:06 PM Magazine Writer via Lincoln 
>>> mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
 For the person who was looking for someone to move a little furniture:
 
 I have used Chris and Bill, info below, a couple of times. They are very 
 nice and reliable. Chris, the younger of the two, is more in charge -- and 
 I accidentally overpaid him $100 one time, and he told me about it, and I 
 tried to tell him to just keep it, but he PayPal-ed it back to me. There 
 are one or two reviewers who complained they weren't careful enough -- I 
 would just encourage them to be careful or remind them you really want 
 them to use furniture rugs or mats or whatever they are called. Very easy 
 to communicate with Chris.
 
 Chris and Bill's Services 
 13 Torrey Street 
 
 Framingham MA 
 
 01702 
 
  
 508-626-8848
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Donate stuffies?

[Jennifer Saffran]

Savers will not take stuffed animals/plush toys. 

> On Feb 3, 2025, at 8:26 AM, RAandBOB  wrote:
> 
> Try Savers in Framingham
> 
> Ruth Ann
> (She, her, hers)
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2025, at 8:14 AM, Emily Parker Beekman  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone know where I could donate stuffies/kids’ stuffed animals? All 
>> are in great condition but we have too many. Any leads welcome. Thank you! 
>> 
>> Emily Parker Beekman
>> 203.988.4800
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Re: [LincolnTalk] coyotes

[Jennifer Saffran]

Yes, me, too, for years.

> On Feb 2, 2025, at 8:37 PM, Melody Elliott  wrote:
> 
> I always thought that coyotes are out hunting during dusk and dawn hours, and 
> therefore afternoon hours were relatively safe.  For the record, they can be 
> around at ANY time.  I've seen 1 or 2 walk across my backyard at any time of 
> day.
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Mice

[Jennifer Saffran]

You ask a good question because red squirrels are considered “wildlife”, and 
mice are considered “pests”. We have had red squirrels decide they like to sit 
on my LR chair (not in Lincoln). They had chewed through a metal mesh screen 
where a utility meter conduit entered the house.

> On Jan 30, 2025, at 8:33 PM, Sasha Golden  wrote:
> 
> I have a couple of cats who would be happy to assist.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025, 7:51 PM Judith Wong  > wrote:
>> It is illegal to capture mice or other wildlife and release them to another 
>> location. 
>> https://www.mass.gov/info-details/moving-wildlife#:~:text=Massachusetts%20law%20prohibits%20the%20capture,both%20wildlife%20and%20people%20safe.
>> 
>> Judy Wong
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2025, at 1:37 PM, Nancy Bergen via Lincoln 
>>> mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We have problems with red squirrels in our house. We are using Baystate 
>>> Wildlife Management in Canton MA. I’m not sure if they deal with mice but 
>>> they do not use poison and will block off the entry ways. They also have 2 
>>> year warranty.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Nancy
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: Lincoln >> > On Behalf Of Margo Fisher-Martin
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:17 AM
>>> To: DJCP mailto:djcp0...@gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: Lincoln@lincolntalk.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Mice
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I agree. I hate the idea of using poison.  We’ve used Critter Control in 
>>> the past, and they sealed off gaps and as far as I was told, did not use 
>>> toxins. I believed they used traps as well.  Pets can also become sick if 
>>> the mice venture out to die and are eaten by the pets. Cats can also be 
>>> helpful problem solvers in this department! :)
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Margo
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:47 AM DJCP >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't have recs as my husband is our household's pest control expert, but 
>>> you really should hire someone who will help seal any gaps that mice can 
>>> enter thru.  Plus, most rodenticides work their way up the food chain and 
>>> kill large prey like raptors and eagles.  In our house, we seal any gaps 
>>> with spray foam and wire mesh, and then put out snap traps to catch any 
>>> strays.  I know this is hard in older homes, but poison is not going to 
>>> solve the problem in the long term as there will always be mice! 
>>> 
>>> Diana 
>>> 
>>> Giles Rd 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 9:31 AM Janet Maloney >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello, I desperately need a recommendation for an exterminator. The recent 
>>> cold weather has cased some mice, I think, to come indoors. I have not seen 
>>> them but can hear them in the ceiling. If you know a reliable person, 
>>> please reply. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Janet
>>> 
>>> 617-460-3216
>>> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Walden Frozen?

[Jennifer Saffran]

Also, avoid any disturbed ice where people have cut a hole in the ice for 
fishing because it may or may not have had time to freeze fully. One of the 
rangers lamented that people might not notice and skate into a hole.

> On Feb 4, 2025, at 6:52 PM, Joanna Schmergel  
> wrote:
> 
> Call the Walden Pond State Reservation at 
> 978-369-3254 to verify that it is safe. 
> 
> It should be at least 2 solid inches of frozen ice or more to walk on.
> 
> Also see here:
> 
> Ice Safety Guide from the Massachusetts Division of Fisheries & Wildlife:
> 
> https://www.mass.gov/news/stay-safe-on-the-ice-this-winter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 6:45 PM Lisa Heffley > wrote:
>> I’ve had to be out of town and wondering if Walden is frozen over now?  Are 
>> people skating? Or is it too iffy?
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Coyotes Last Night

[Jennifer Saffran]

Fascinating! We often hear what sounds like 4-5 voices around Farrar Pond. In Southborough, I once saw 4 coyotes walk single file through my backyard to a wetlands behind us. We had seen single coyotes and small groups of deer do this before.On Jan 31, 2025, at 10:41 PM, Fil Zembowicz  wrote:An interesting feature of coyotes I only learned about recently is their "auditory illusion" of always being in large packsFrom the Adirondack Almanack:When people hear coyote howls, they often mistakenly assume that they’re hearing a large pack of animals, all raising their voices at once. But this is an auditory illusion called the “beau geste” effect. Because of the variety of sounds produced by each coyote, and the way sound is distorted as it passes through the environment, two of these tricksters can sound like seven or eight animals.I've lived in New England for most of my life but never have seen more than one coyote at a time, although I've always heard a big group when I hear them ...On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 7:34 PM JOHN SOLMAN via Lincoln  wrote:I just took my dog outside on Deerhaven Rd. and about 100 feet away under a bush was a coyote resting. He left 10 minutes later and just came back. There was a pack of them howling last night at 5:00 across the street too. It’s a concern having to walk our dogs right now. We will be staying close to the house. 
Claire Solman 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2025, at 6:40 AM, C Eliot  wrote:
> 
> We heard a pack of coyote’s last night in Tanner’s brook off of Bedford road. It sounded like at least four of them and they sounded close!
> 
> They can be useful, because they eat mice, but they also eat pets. Don’t let cats or dogs out!
> 
> I need a wildlife camera!
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Services Christmas Eve

[Jennifer Saffran]

I would also put a vote in for the Concord UU Church. I am a member of both. 
Again, big organs (they have two!), traditional music, messages more about the 
historical Jesus and related concepts, as UU churches do. Last year, they did 
not do candles lit inside of the church while singing “Silent NIght”. Many UU 
churches end their service with that while trying not to catch anyone or 
anything on fire.

And I second what Ruth Ann said.

> On Dec 16, 2024, at 8:26 PM, RAandBOB  wrote:
> 
> First Parish Lincoln is across the street from the Lincoln library. It will 
> have two candlelight services, one at eight and one at 10. The music will be 
> splendid, accompanied by a real pipe organ, and there will be biblical 
> readings about Chris’s birth. At the end everyone gets their own candle and 
> they pass the flame from one person to another.
> 
> The church is an open and welcoming church, embracing people of all faith 
> beliefs or even  nonbelief. It is a combination of  Congregational and 
> Unitarian traditions.
> 
> Ruth Ann
> (She, her, hers)
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2024, at 10:19 AM, Collette Sizer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Lincoln,
>> 
>> I have a houseful of company for Christmas that would like to attend a 
>> Christmas eve service. Is there a church in or near Lincoln that stands out 
>> for their service on the 24th?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your suggestions!
>> 
>> Collette Sizer
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[LincolnTalk] Fwd: Thur Dec 19 | Harvard Voices on Climate Change: Building the U.S. Power Grid for AI and Clean Energy

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> University 
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> Power Grid for AI and Clean Energy
> Date: December 12, 2024 at 10:28:04 AM EST
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> University 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] cold

[Jennifer Saffran]

Yes. This is what we did when I lived in Alaska as a child. We were told to 
keep a stream of water running about the dimension of your pinky finger.

> On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:03 PM, Claire Mount  wrote:
> 
> perhaps leaving taps dripping and cabinet doors open during  this extreme 
> cold,to prevent pipes freezing, is an idea
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Transfer Station Zoo Today

[Jennifer Saffran]

Alternatively, it is ok that that once every few years, when a holiday lands on 
a W or Sat., that a trip to the dump will just take longer. I think we can 
handle that.

IMO, a “zoo” is the Cross Bronx Expressway during rush hour, or trying to get 
to Logan back when the Big Dig was still a thing. 

> On Jan 4, 2025, at 11:44 AM, Margo Fisher-Martin 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I’ve lived in this town for more than 30 years. When we first moved here, the 
> transfer station was open 3 days per week. Over time, the hours were reduced 
> to 2 days. If there was a holiday that interrupted the schedule, another day 
> that week would be added to the schedule. I truly support everyone enjoying 
> the holidays, but when the transfer station is only open  for 1 opportunity 
> per week for 2 weeks in a row, I think the town should arrange an additional 
> day.  Many people have commitments on Saturdays, or it’s the only time they 
> can get away. With the amount of taxes we pay, and the ability to build a new 
> school and fancy community center, etc… you’d think a couple of additional 
> hours of transfer station opportunities would be added. 
> Today was a nightmare. I heard a mother of 2 complaining about having to push 
> her kids out of the way, so they would not be hit by a car. Attached is a 
> photo of the line waiting to get a spot ( with cars behind me too). The town 
> of Dover, with a smaller population, offers 3 days per week. And they have a 
> lower tax rate than Lincoln. 
> I’m wondering if the town can cough up a bit more of our tax money to add a 
> day or 2 per year. I’m not asking for pick up ( although, wouldn’t THAT be 
> nice?!)! These are BASIC services.
> Thank you. 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Margo Martin
> 14 Giles Rd
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] to post: Trump cartoon

[Jennifer Saffran]

But this specific cartoon was just stupid. And not serving our community in any 
way. The causes listed below were not expressed in that meme. This is about 
CANADA. 

We, in our family, are following what is going on in Canada closely. Canadians 
are scared of physical and financial aggression from US. For example, it is 
likely the entire economy of greater Windsor, just over the border from 
Detroit, will collapse.

An ugly meme with a beaver and a goose reflects NOTHING of the real situation. 
There will be no comic ending.




> On Feb 12, 2025, at 7:34 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> It certainly has impact on our town, up and down the line.
> Let me ( begin to) count the ways-
> Peoples incomes in research, fed contracts for anything ( think Ed) fed $$ 
> that is passed on through the state… and much much more.
> We are not an island
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2025, at 1:17 PM, Rosa Elena  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What are the moderation rules around posting political cartoons, 
>> particularly with no commentary and with no relevant impact to our town? If 
>> we all start posting memes and then others respond with a thumbs up or 
>> thumbs down or a variety of emojis, this will become a 
>> Facebook/Instagram/X/bluesky/my aunt’s WhatsApp spam.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 2:44 PM Claire Mount > > wrote:
>>> 🇸🇮🎯
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 1:20 PM RAandBOB >> > wrote:
 🤣👏🏻
 Ruth Ann
 (She, her, hers)
 
> On Feb 12, 2025, at 11:19 AM, Diana Smith  > wrote:
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[LincolnTalk] ISO miniature horse

[Jennifer Saffran]

Friends of mine in Sutton, MA is looking for a miniature horse to be a 
companion to one that they already have. At one time, they had a heard of 5 
that they rescued from a terrible situation. (They rescue animals frequently.) 
Over time, 4 of the original herd miniature horses have died of old age. The 
remaining horse is lonely. 

If anyone knows of a miniature horse that needs rehoming, please contact me and 
I will pass it along. 

My friends are looking in their area (near Worcester) as well.

Thanks.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] notarization of real estate papers

[Jennifer Saffran]

We went to the Town Hall to have a simple document a month ago. The person 
there did it, but said that an appointment is preferred. She mentioned 
something about notarizing a 40 page real estate document…..So, you should call 
first.

> On Mar 13, 2025, at 6:04 PM, Gus Browne  wrote:
> 
> There are several Notaries in Town Offices, Town Clerk Valerie Fox among 
> them. I'm not sure about the real estate issue,
> 
> -- Gus Browne 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 5:43 PM Debra Daugherty  > wrote:
>> Anyone have advice on where to get Maine real estate papers notarized? I 
>> just got turned away from both UPS and BoA for this because store/bank 
>> policy prohibits them from notarizing real estate related paperwork. Will 
>> Lincoln Town Office notaries do this?
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Bogus EZPass text alerts

[Jennifer Saffran]

I noticed these for the last four months or so. 

Great rule is to NEVER respond for any request for ANY billing unless you 
verify it by logging into your account online. Period.

So annoying and so clever.

> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:47 PM, Anne Warner  wrote:
> 
> I have also received and fallen for it. And then they have your credit card 
> info….aaargh! 
> - Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings! 
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:36 PM, Betty Green via Lincoln 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank u SO much for reporting this
>> 
>> I have received and fallen for it 
>> 
>> Now my mother is sending me notices and I’ve told her they must be bogus 
>> because she gave up her car 6 months ago!!
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:09 PM, cmontie montie.net  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi LT
>>> 
>>> Just a friendly heads up:  it appears that there is a EZ-Pass text scam 
>>> going on that references unpaid tolls and penalties.  I suspected it was 
>>> phony and confirmed it.  Do not click on any links or respond if you 
>>> receive such a text.  Block it and report it as spam if your system allows.
>>> 
>>> For more info, here is a recent article from Newsweek.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.newsweek.com/e-zpass-scam-targets-drivers-claims-unpaid-tolls-2015474
>>> 
>>> And excerpted here for your convenience:
>>> 
>>> “ Known as a "smishing" scam , the 
>>> messages appear to come from official tolling agencies, directing 
>>> recipients to settle unpaid tolls and urging drivers to avoid late fees by 
>>> paying quickly.
>>> The links, however, are fraudulent, and the tolls are not real.
>>> 
>>> The Massachusetts  Department 
>>> of Transportation  (MassDOT) 
>>> reported an uptick 
>>>  in 
>>> these scams  during the 2024 holiday 
>>>  season.”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> 
>>> Carolyn
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Extra pair of Jack White tix for tonight

[Jennifer Saffran]

I saw him in Detroit well worth it

> On Feb 17, 2025, at 12:30 PM, Jason Kass  wrote:
> 
> Hello LT!
> 
> We have an extra pair of tickets for Jack White tonight if anyone is ready to 
> rock out.
> 
> Roadrunner
> 8 PM
> $80 each
> 
> Jason Kass
> 11 Moccasin HL
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] to post: Trump cartoon

[Jennifer Saffran]

Please, no posts like this. 

> On Feb 12, 2025, at 11:19 AM, Diana Smith  wrote:
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Webinar on Induction Cooktops March 18, 2025 at 7-8 pm

[Jennifer Saffran]

Thank you for posting. We have one and very much prefer it to any other 
technology.

> On Feb 24, 2025, at 6:31 AM, Robin Wilkerson  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ditch Gas, Cook Safer and Better
>> Did you know cooking with gas might be making your kitchen air worse than 
>> outdoor pollution? Gas stoves release harmful stuff like nitrogen dioxide 
>> and carbon monoxide, which can even increase asthma risk in kids. And 
>> ventilation only helps if your exhaust fan is strong and you actually use it.
>> 
>> When it’s time to replace your stove, consider going electric or induction. 
>> Induction stoves heat faster than gas and are super efficient—plus, they’re 
>> safer (you can’t burn your hand on the stove!). And with new rebates and tax 
>> credits, switching to induction is more affordable than ever.
>> 
>> Join us for an online webinar on March 18th from 7-8pm! Andee Krasner 
>> (Greater Boston Physicians for Social Responsibility and co-author with 
>> Rocky Mountain Institute of a report on gas stoves) will share the facts 
>> about gas stove risks and the benefits of induction cooking. We’ll also hear 
>> from neighbors using induction cooktops, plus plenty of time for Q&A.
>> 
>> Register here: https://bit.ly/sudbury-march-webinar
>> Learn more about heat pumps and solar here  and other actions with 
>> https://bit.ly/plugINSudburyMA1
>> 
>> This event is sponsored by plugIN  
>> MetroWest, in partnership with MassEnergize . 
>> The Town of Sudbury and Sustainable Sudbury are excited to be a part of this 
>> seven-town effort to empower residents to transform their homes into 
>> sustainable, energy-efficient, and comfortable living spaces!
> 
> Robin Wilkerson
> 31 Old Winter St.
> Lincoln, MA 01773
> outsideinformat...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] 🚨 Today at 3:00. Protest ICE arrests in Acton.

[Jennifer Saffran]

What Joan said. No warrants shown. On May 12, 2025, at 6:38 PM, Joan Kimball  wrote:It's lack of due process that is so troubling. This not being done under the rule of law--rights guaranteed under our U.S. Constitution. And it's terrifying in its implementation: masked ICE personnel grabbing people off the street, from  their houses, out of their cars.--Thich Nhat HanhOn Mon, May 12, 2025, 6:31 PM Leslie Turek  wrote:"shouldn’t there be an effort to determine root cause of individuals being apprehended in the name of journalistic integrity?"How can we tell if they don't feel they are required to appear before a court? That's part of the whole tyranny thing.Leslie TurekOn Mon, May 12, 2025 at 4:58 PM Rick Sale  wrote:All in as well but shouldn’t there be an effort to determine root cause of individuals being apprehended in the name of journalistic integrity? Is ICE Simply rounding up random people? Are the people that are being targeted doing something illegally or against a law on the books? On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 2:22 PM Kathy Madison via Lincoln  wrote:Agree!Where do we start? How do we organize Lincoln?Do you know if other towns are organizing?This is no academic exercise, but a choice between the rule of law and tyranny. Right now.KathyOn May 11, 2025, at 5:07 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:We should think about/ talk about what we would do as individuals and as a community when ( not if) it happens here.Sent from my iPadBegin forwarded message:From: Concord Indivisible Date: May 11, 2025 at 12:15:17 PM EDTTo: samat...@gmail.comSubject: 🚨 Today at 3:00. Protest ICE arrests in Acton.Reply-To: i...@concordindivisible.org It's happened in our community. Yesterday masked ICE agents abducted individuals off the streets of Acton. Given the Trump administration's track record of acting illegally and cruelly, we are joining with the Peacemaker's Network for an emergency protest today at 3pm in front of Acton Town Hall at 472 Main St. State Senator Jamie Eldridge will be there. Here's a post from him yesterday: Sent via ActionNetwork.org. To update your email address, change your name or address, or to stop receiving emails from Concord Indivisible, please click here.-- The LincolnTalk mailing list.To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org.Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/.Change your subscription settings at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln.-- 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Thank you(s)

[Jennifer Saffran]

IMO, the Evangelicals or Christian Nationalists that support Israel, that seem 
to be interested in stamping out anti-semitism, are not really that interested 
in the welfare and wellbeing of Jews. If they are, it’s to accomplish two 
things: 1. maintain the State of Israel so that it facilitates the “Second 
Coming” of Jesus Christ, and 2.) to convert them to Christianity. 

IMO, the “concerns” listed in Kristy Noem’s recent letter to Harvard about 
rampant antisemitism is just a vehicle to damage what is, among President 
Trump’s base, the most recognizable symbol for educational excellence, and 
therefore, “elitism” and “liberalism" in the USA.

I say this as someone who was raised as an adolescent in a Midwestern 
megachurch. Each week was made up of a full service with 45 minute sermons, 
“Sunday School”, and midweek Bible Study with other teens. That gave me a lot 
of info into a culture that most people in New England would never access. The 
population of that church, last I heard, was 6,000 members across three 
campuses.

As for Israel, it needs to exist in order to bring about the prophecies, as 
some interpret in the Book of Revelations (last book of the NT), that will 
bring about the “Second Coming” of the Messiah. Revelations also is interpreted 
by some as predicting that the earth will end “in a ball of fire” or “in fire”. 
For decades, this was used as justification for a large nuclear arsenal, 
influencing American foreign and military policy. Ronald Reagan quoted this in 
speeches.

The easiest and most entertaining video I can find on Reagan’s speeches is 
listed below. John Lydon achieved fame as the lead singer of the Sex Pistols. 
Afrika Bambaataa was a youth outreach worker in the South Bronx in the 1970s. 
He is credited with “inventing” Hip Hop.


“World Destruction”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoXGMSOIrIs. music video, 
Afrika Baambaata & John Lydon collaboration, Virgin Records, 1984. Featuring 
Ronald Reagan talking about Armageddon and foreign policy; Bambaataa quoting 
Nostradamus, etc.



> On May 22, 2025, at 9:47 AM, V Saleme  wrote:
> 
> Horrible news- And where is the outrage?
> Incredible to me that people blindly advocate for GRALTA.
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 8:47 AM Jonathan Sheffi  > wrote:
>> We see the fruits of the advocacy of groups like GRALTA in the news this 
>> morning, as a pro-Palestinian activist murdered two Jews in Washington DC 
>> last night as the two were leaving an event. Both advocated for peaceful 
>> coexistence, and both were murdered as the zealot shouted, "Free, free 
>> Palestine!" over their dead bodies.
>> 
>> GRALTA's efforts to normalize demonization and hatred of Jews has real-world 
>> consequences. Its continued advocacy against the rights and safety of the 
>> Jewish people is one of our town's great shames.
>> ᐧ
>> 
>> On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 3:41 PM Sara Mattes > > wrote:
>>> Thank you to Steve Low and the Gralta Foundation for standing tall.
>>> Thank you all who have supported the idea of keeping an open mind and heart.
>>> Thank you to Harvard University leadership  and faculty for standing up for 
>>> higher education.
>>> Thank you to the law firms who have stood up to intimidation and said “NO!”
>>> 
>>> They will not be moved.
>>> We will not be moved.
>>> 
>>> This article explains why these stances are so brave and important.
>>> 
>>> (If,  for some reason, the link does not work for you, email me directly 
>>> and I will send a saved copy)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Explore this gift article from The New York Times. You can read it for free 
>>> without a subscription.
>>> 
>>> The Group Behind Project 2025 Has a Plan to Crush the Pro-Palestinian 
>>> Movement
>>> 
>>> Even before President Trump was re-elected, the Heritage Foundation, best 
>>> known for Project 2025, set out to destroy pro-Palestinian activism in the 
>>> United States.
>>> 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/us/project-esther-heritage-foundation-palestine.html?unlocked_article_code=1.IE8.BBQV.uyX3qRTJsvuz&smid=em-share
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Re: [LincolnTalk] To whose gain?

[Jennifer Saffran]

The median for new construction in the US is now 2,179 sf. That the price is so 
high is a function of this area, not what the “missing middle” purchaser can 
afford. 

> On May 30, 2025, at 10:14 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> I got answer regarding the cost of 17 of the 20 units being proposed by 
> CIVICO for the Panetta property.
> The 1800 sq ft units will sell for $1mill, the larger ones will go for $2-3 
> mill.
> The income required to afford the “starter” million dollar home is $225,000, 
> with 20% down ($200,000) and a thirty year fixed rate at today’s rate.
> 
> Is this the “missing middle?"
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2025, at 3:59 PM, Don Seltzer  wrote:
>> 
>> Sara,
>> 
>> Please do not ask me to do research for you. 
>> As I wrote, I was simply adding one detail to the picture.
>> 
>> Don
>> 
>> On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 3:01 PM Sara Mattes > > wrote:
>>> And how much do the balance sell for?  
>>> Are they addressing the “missing middle” we have committed to addressing?
>>> Those homes would be $750,00 or less.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 30, 2025, at 2:53 PM, Don Seltzer >>> > wrote:
 
 To provide a bit more detail on the housing, the three affordable 3 
 Bedroom houses will, under HUD rules, sell for about $300K to households 
 making under $132K.
 
 Don Seltzer
 
 
 On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 6:21 AM Joseph Kolchinsky 
 mailto:joseph.kolchin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Fantastic point!  I updated the Civico row to indicate that they are also 
> "Getting Revenue from sale of 20 Mixed-Income Housing Units".  Now it 
> matches properly.  Updated on the live doc 
>  and attached here as well.
> 
> This table isn't meant to indicate that anyone is being generous - simply 
> that every part is participating in an exchange of some kind. It helps to 
> visualize so that we can all see who is motivated by what.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joseph Kolchinsky
> 978-604-0827
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 6:30 PM, Terry Kay Epperson 
> mailto:terry.k.epper...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Concerning the table, I would argue that Civico is not ‘giving’ the 20 
>> units.  I think that should belong to the ‘getting’ column, since they 
>> will be selling these at profit.  
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> Terry Kay
>> 
>> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:57 PM Joseph Kolchinsky 
>> mailto:joseph.kolchin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> I agree, the moment the town is being asked to participate, 
>>> transparency is required.  This table I built makes it really straight 
>>> forward to answer the question of "to whose gain".  I put the below 
>>> table together with the help of RLF and Farrington to ensure accuracy.  
>>> I continue to update it in this document on page 4 here. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If there continues to be doubts as to the validity of this information, 
>>> I'd love to hear what kind of confirmation one needs.  If I can, I'll 
>>> dig.  I'm a curious person and really enjoy the pursuit of clarity.
>>> 
>>> Joey
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joseph Kolchinsky
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:20 AM, Sara Mattes >> > wrote:
 To whose gain?
 It is clear that CIVICO, Farrington, Panettas and RLF will, per 
 statements by RLF members.
 It is not clear the value of the public investment of significant 
 public $$ and significant zoning bylaw changes.
 That case needs to be clearly made.
 
 This is no longer a private transaction, but a public one, so the 
 public has a right and responsibility to ask for clarity.
 These questions do not reflect conspiracy theories but responsible 
 democratic engagement.
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On May 29, 2025, at 9:13 AM, John Mendelson  > wrote:
> One person's conspiracy theory is another person's ideal 
> public/private partnership where 1+1=3.
> 
> On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 8:46 AM Karla Gravis  > wrote:
>> Our CPC tax dollars are actually being used to maximize Civico’s 
>> profits. 
>> 
>> Civico is buying the Panetta land at assessed value for its current 
>> best use, which is the buildout of 3 single family homes. Not only 
>> is this deal letting them build at a much higher density through 
>> revised zoning at 20 houses, they are also getting additional land 
>> that currently belongs to Farrington to: 1) build more housing 
>> units, and 2) place a septic system. This scheme allows Civico to 
>>>

Re: [LincolnTalk] Please Vote NO on the Community Center Proposal

[Jennifer Saffran]

Absolutely every premise of this proposal that seniors and young children be 
separated contradicts what is being SUCCESSFULLY done in the UK and other 
European cultures, like the NL, like DK.

Children are not fragile little flowers who cannot be around anything other 
than themselves. To think that a parking lot in Lincoln is a hazard to their 
sensitive development is a curious concept. A child can learn to both negotiate 
a parking lot and benefit from access to nature at the same time. 

Having said that, there may be reasons why to vote no.

> On Jun 24, 2025, at 8:56 PM, Isla A.R  wrote:
> 
> Dear Lincoln Talk,
> 
> I’m writing in response to the recent emails shared on this topic. I hope 
> this message offers a respectful perspective from another side of the 
> conversation and that it will be approved and posted by the moderators.
> 
> I ask you please to vote NO on the proposed community center project - not 
> only because of the cost, but because of the impact it could have on the LEAP 
> program and our town’s children.
> 
> LEAP and a Senior Center Should Not Share the Same Space (on a daily basis)
> While I have the deepest respect and honor for our senior residents, placing 
> a children’s program in the same building as a senior center is not 
> beneficial to either group. Just imagine the daily scene: young children full 
> of energy, running around, playing freely. This is exactly what a joyful, 
> healthy childhood should look like.
> 
> However, this level of activity may be overwhelming and even frustrating for 
> some seniors. Conversely, LEAP staff and children may feel constrained, 
> having to “tone things down” to accommodate the quiet needs of elderly 
> participants. It would no longer be a child-centered space, and this shift 
> could negatively impact both sides. I truly wish these two populations could 
> thrive together in the same space, but experience has shown that this is not 
> a sustainable solution for daily, long-term use.
> 
> Safety and Environment Matter
> The current LEAP setting - peacefully nestled away from traffic and 
> surrounded by nature - offers a secure, developmentally appropriate space for 
> young children. Adding a community center shared with adults, a busy parking 
> lot, and regular town activity introduces safety concerns and disrupts the 
> calm, nurturing environment these children rely on.
> 
> There Is a Simple, Practical Solution
> Instead of relocating and then rebuilding LEAP as part of the community 
> center, why not renovate the existing pods over the summer? This preserves 
> everything that already works so well and is beloved by families and staff, 
> without compromising safety or learning.
> 
> A Community Center Can and Should Be Built Elsewhere
> I fully support creating a community center, just not on school grounds. 
> Let’s keep this area dedicated to our children’s education and well-being. We 
> can explore other locations that better serve the broader community without 
> negatively impacting either population.
> 
> I know these points have been discussed in the past, but I believe this is an 
> opportunity to take a fresh look and get a ‘second opinion’ before moving 
> forward.  
> 
> LEAP is a thriving and popular program that continues to grow each year. One 
> of its greatest strengths is the beautiful, spacious environment it currently 
> enjoys - designed to meet the expanding needs of its students. I’m not sure 
> the proposed new plan preserves that same open layout and generous space, 
> which has been such a vital part of the program’s success.  
> 
> Please help protect our youngest learners by voting NO on this proposal. 
> Thank you.
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for support for Decordova and Pierce House noise management

[Jennifer Saffran]

Public music events have been ear splitting since Ted Nugent in the 1970s. Over 
130 dB. It’s the nature of amplified music. It’s communal, even “tribal”. 
Whether it’s “The Nuge”, or someone playing Bach on a really great organ, or 
Ben Zander conducting The Boston Philharmonic playing Shostakovich, or the 
drums on the early. hours of Boxing Day in the Bahamas, celebrating Junkanoo, 
hearing the music, as well as feeling the vibration deep in your bones is part 
of the collective experience.. Wearing ear protection is a very good idea at 
concerts, in noisy restaurants, etc. Even classical musicians in certain 
sections of an orchestra wear them. I have some with me all the time. 
“Musician’s ear plugs”. Very easy to get online or Amazon. Well worth it.

> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:53 PM, June L Matthews  wrote:
> 
> Hello, all.  Speaking as a music lover (although, admittedly, more of the 
> Baroque/classical, and unamplified jazz genres), why does “music” these days 
> have to be synonymous with “loud”??  And, by extension, the louder the 
> better??  I know that these days young people go to rock concerts wearing 
> earplugs so as not to jeopardize their hearing.  (I don’t go to rock concerts 
> at all.)  Can somebody explain this to me?  Why can’t music be played at a 
> moderate volume and still be enjoyable to all present, plus abutting 
> neighbors?
>  
> (Just as a brief break from the increasingly fraught CCBC and 
> Panetta/Farrington discussions.)
>  
> June Matthews
>  
> From: Lincoln  > On Behalf Of Sara Mattes
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2025 8:05 PM
> To: seckle...@comcast.net 
> Cc: Lincoln Talk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for support for Decordova and Pierce House 
> noise management
>  
> That venue was a treasure!
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2025, at 6:57 PM, Donald seckler via Lincoln 
> mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
>  
> For many years the DeCordova had an “ al fresco” music series featuring 
> remarkable jazz groups, and drawing a modest, calm, musically literate, and 
> diverse group for beautiful summer afternoons. The Museum actually invested 
> substantial money in upgrading the music “shell” and amphitheater seating. 
> Then, with  no notice or explanation, the series was terminated. No one 
> seemed to know what happened. The site was bulldozed. The invested capital 
> and good will was abandoned. Eventually it was said that the series was 
> stopped “at the request of the neighbors.” There must be some clear path to 
> holding venues responsible for acceptable sound levels without pulling the 
> plug on treasured resources.
>  
> Thanks
> Don Seckler
>  
> Sent via cell
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:58 PM, Dr. Steven Kanner  > wrote:
> 
> 
> The town, especially with Dan Pereira assisted by the Board of Health, worked 
> extensively on noise mitigation for all residents affected by de Cordova and 
> Pierce House last year and the prior year. Sound measurements were taken at 
> the venues and at the affected houses, and results considered. Multiple 
> procedural changes were proposed and agreed to by Pierce House and DeCordova, 
> as David G below just noted, to keep projected sound at acceptable levels. 
> Note the sound curtains described and the curfew time. This was not a 
> neglected issue. 
>  
> I unfortunately don’t see the attached letter referred to. But if the 
> solution is failing, and sound levels are higher than previously agreed or 
> out of hours, it would certainly help to have sound intensity and timing 
> documented and sent to Dan for review. 
>  
> Regards,
>  
> SRK
>  
> Steven R. Kanner, MD
> Member, Board of Health
> Lincoln, MA
> From: Lincoln  > On Behalf Of David G
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2025 5:36 PM
> To: Jenn Lachey mailto:jenn.lac...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Lincoln Talk mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for support for Decordova and Pierce House 
> noise management
>  
> Dear Jenn and fellow residents of Lincoln
>  
> My daughter was married at the Pierce House this May 
> We were given careful instructions about how to ensure that the music was not 
> too loud and speakers stayed strictly behind a sound blocking wall
> The bar closed at 930 pm and the party ended at 10 as the Town regulations 
> dictate.
>  
> The Pierce House is a gem - a special venue that distinguishes the Town and 
> adds to life here. The Director makes sure that the noise regulations are 
> enforced,
> A similar gem is the Decordova which needs events to help it thrive.  The 
> first Friday evening events there bring people together in a wonderful family 
> friendly atmosphere 
>  
> Thankfully we don’t live in a place with loud bars.
>  
> I think this letter is an over reach and an attempt to introduce needless 
> regulation that will discourage people fr

Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for support for Decordova and Pierce House noise management

[Jennifer Saffran]

said by whom?

Was this about the time that the Trustees of the Reservation bought DeCordova?

As you may know, the Trustees bought the museum without enough capital to 
upgrade the HVAC to museum industry standards for conserving the artwork. I was 
told that they need to fundraise for that specific project. Until then, the 
“indoor” museum will not open. Perhaps the outdoor bandshell was bulldozed for 
a similar reason—a lack of operating capital?

> On Jun 5, 2025, at 8:04 PM, Sara Mattes  wrote:
> 
> That venue was a treasure!
> 
> 
>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 6:57 PM, Donald seckler via Lincoln 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> For many years the DeCordova had an “ al fresco” music series featuring 
>> remarkable jazz groups, and drawing a modest, calm, musically literate, and 
>> diverse group for beautiful summer afternoons. The Museum actually invested 
>> substantial money in upgrading the music “shell” and amphitheater seating. 
>> Then, with  no notice or explanation, the series was terminated. No one 
>> seemed to know what happened. The site was bulldozed. The invested capital 
>> and good will was abandoned. Eventually it was said that the series was 
>> stopped “at the request of the neighbors.” There must be some clear path to 
>> holding venues responsible for acceptable sound levels without pulling the 
>> plug on treasured resources.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Don Seckler
>> 
>> Sent via cell
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2025, at 5:58 PM, Dr. Steven Kanner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The town, especially with Dan Pereira assisted by the Board of Health, 
>>> worked extensively on noise mitigation for all residents affected by de 
>>> Cordova and Pierce House last year and the prior year. Sound measurements 
>>> were taken at the venues and at the affected houses, and results 
>>> considered. Multiple procedural changes were proposed and agreed to by 
>>> Pierce House and DeCordova, as David G below just noted, to keep projected 
>>> sound at acceptable levels. Note the sound curtains described and the 
>>> curfew time. This was not a neglected issue. 
>>>  
>>> I unfortunately don’t see the attached letter referred to. But if the 
>>> solution is failing, and sound levels are higher than previously agreed or 
>>> out of hours, it would certainly help to have sound intensity and timing 
>>> documented and sent to Dan for review. 
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>>  
>>> SRK
>>>  
>>> Steven R. Kanner, MD
>>> Member, Board of Health
>>> Lincoln, MA
>>> From: Lincoln  On Behalf Of David G
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2025 5:36 PM
>>> To: Jenn Lachey 
>>> Cc: Lincoln Talk 
>>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Looking for support for Decordova and Pierce 
>>> House noise management
>>>  
>>> Dear Jenn and fellow residents of Lincoln
>>>  
>>> My daughter was married at the Pierce House this May 
>>> We were given careful instructions about how to ensure that the music was 
>>> not too loud and speakers stayed strictly behind a sound blocking wall
>>> The bar closed at 930 pm and the party ended at 10 as the Town regulations 
>>> dictate.
>>>  
>>> The Pierce House is a gem - a special venue that distinguishes the Town and 
>>> adds to life here. The Director makes sure that the noise regulations are 
>>> enforced,
>>> A similar gem is the Decordova which needs events to help it thrive.  The 
>>> first Friday evening events there bring people together in a wonderful 
>>> family friendly atmosphere 
>>>  
>>> Thankfully we don’t live in a place with loud bars.
>>>  
>>> I think this letter is an over reach and an attempt to introduce needless 
>>> regulation that will discourage people from using these wonderful venues
>>>  
>>> I urge people not to sign this letter 
>>>  
>>> David Giber 
>>>  
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 4:00 PM Jenn Lachey >> > wrote:
>>> Hi fellow Lincolnites,
>>> 
>>> I hope this message finds you well! am reaching out to let you know about a 
>>> letter to be sent to the Select Board concerning the level of noise coming 
>>> from Decordova and Pierce House. A copy of the letter is attached to this 
>>> email. As you can see, it highlights the issues and proposes some solutions 
>>> (additional communication from, oversight by, and accountability of the 
>>> venues)
>>> 
>>> The letter will come from neighbors and others who are routinely negatively 
>>> impacted as the events at the venues move outdoors (which happens to 
>>> coincide with when we like to spend time outdoors and with our windows 
>>> open).  We are all very clear that our goal is not to be party poopers; 
>>> however, despite past actions taken by the venues to control their sound 
>>> levels, coordinated by Dan Pereira, assistant town administrator (thank 
>>> you, Dan!), the levels continue to be excessive, and we are a captive 
>>> audience.  We are looking for a constructive solution that works for both 
>>> sides. 
>>> 
>>> If the sounds from the venues trouble you, we need your help. You can 
>>> provide that by agreeing to have 

Re: [LincolnTalk] Vote No to the Community Center, save yourself a tax payment!

[Jennifer Saffran]

Northboro-Southboro as well, plus many other Metrowest districts—summer, after 
school, etc.

> On Jun 9, 2025, at 12:20 PM, ٍSarah Postlethwait  wrote:
> 
> “LEAP can function in the school building on a temporary basis, but no one 
> should think this is an optimal or even adequate solution.”
> 
> I have a really hard time rationalizing why LEAP and Parks and Rec 
> programming can’t utilize shared spaces inside the school building during 
> after school hours- especially spaces like the multiple “hubs”, the learning 
> commons, the two gymnasiums, and the cafeteria. (Map below of what I believe 
> is the current school design)
> 
> Is there truly not a single unused space inside the school building? As far 
> as I understand it, the school was designed to accommodate 700+ students 
> comfortably, and our enrollment is closer to 550. That discrepancy suggests 
> there may be underutilized capacity. 
> 
> What is LEAP’s plan for the next two years? Why can it be done safely on a 
> temporary basis, but it can’t be done long term? I have yet to hear any 
> convincing argument about why it can’t be done, but I’m all ears if anyone 
> has any to offer. 
> 
> For context, I have a background in education and have spent time in dozens 
> of school buildings. The vast majority of them host their before and after 
> school programming, as well as summer programming within the school itself, 
> and none of them had a ~100 Million Dollar building at their disposal. 
> 
> Even locally, many schools safely and effectively offer programming before 
> and after school as well as summer programs inside their school buildings, 
> rather than off campus or in a community center. 
> 
> Some examples of towns I found after doing a quick search- I’m sure the full 
> list is much more extensive:
> Weston
> Maynard
> Belmont 
> Concord
> Waltham
> Arlington
> Burlington
> Woburn
> Dedham
> 
> Given these considerations, I believe it’s time for our community to reflect 
> on whether building a $27 Million community center is a WANT or a NEED. From 
> my perspective, it is a want- and in today’s economically volatile climate, I 
> believe we should be especially prudent with major expenditures that may not 
> be truly essential. 
>  
> Sarah Postlethwait 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 10:55 AM Bob Kupperstein  > wrote:
>> LEAP can function in the school building on a temporary basis, but no one 
>> should think this is an optimal or even adequate solution.   
>> 
>> LEAP, in its own building, has dedicated space for educational, artistic, 
>> recreational, tech and media activities.   In the school building, they 
>> would not 'own' any space - so anything they use on a daily basis would have 
>> to be set up and stored away each day.   This puts an unrealistic burden on 
>> staff and creates logistical issues with the setup needing to happen just as 
>> the school is emptying out and the clean-up/storage having to happen during 
>> the pick-up hours, while the students have a range of pickup times.  The 
>> activities and programs that make LEAP such a great after-school program 
>> would have to be scaled back.
>> 
>> I can also imagine safety/security issues, with students in the school 
>> building after most school staff have left, leaving large parts of the 
>> building unmonitored.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Bob
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 12:36 AM Karla Gravis > > wrote:
>>> ...
>> 
>>> 
>>> Leap can remain in our brand-new school building as it will be hosted there 
>>> for the next two years anyway. 
>>> 
>>> Karla Gravis
>>> Weston Rd
>>> 
>>> 
 
 
 -- Forwarded message -
 From: Sara Lupkas mailto:sara.lup...@gmail.com>>
 Date: Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 10:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Vote No to the Community Center, save yourself 
 a tax payment!
 To: Listserv Listserv >>> >
 
 
 David Cuetos wrote: "After adjusting for structurally inflated budget 
 lines, our true operating budget is likely closer to $46–47M—implying a 
 reserve target of around $7M. That leaves as much as $18M in excess 
 reserves available." 
 What is meant by structurally inflated budget lines and how are you 
 calculating our "true operating budget"? Implying that citizens should 
 somehow equate not passing the Community Center Warrant article with the 
 town not needing to collect taxes in the fall seems a huge reach and not 
 very financially responsible for our town. And if our reserves are so 
 healthy, why is there even an argument against allocating an additional 
 amount to cover the Community Center shortfall? 
 Let's also not forget that if the Community Center somehow fails now, we 
 would still need to renovate Bemis and the LEAP pods, so this wouldn't 
 free up *that much* in the town budget. This is reminiscent of the fi

Re: [LincolnTalk] Why are people moving out of Lincoln, especially seniors

[Jennifer Saffran]

The reasons I have heard people move out of Lincoln( and surrounding towns):

1. Winter.

2. Taxes (local and state)

3. RE costs/COL

4. Move to a smaller house due to mobility issues and the effort needed to 
maintain a large home, not cost.

5. Be closer to grown adult children.



> On Jun 4, 2025, at 4:32 PM, Laura Glynn  wrote:
> 
> I wish we knew why people were moving out of Lincoln - and which groups are 
> leaving
> 
> Certainly some people leave because of new jobs, retirement, health and other 
> issues
> 
> But I believe that a number of people, especially elderly and/or lower or 
> middle income are leaving or have left because of the taxes
> 
> It would be ironic if the town spends more and more money to offer middle 
> income housing when the tax increase drives out the very people we are trying 
> to keep 
> 
> Yes I know the town has a property tax work off program but that only helps a 
> small group
> 
> I was a big law corporate lawyer for 40 years and I struggle to pay these 
> damn property taxes
> 
> I can’t image what these tax increases have done for those Lincoln residents 
> on fixed income or who don’t have family money to keep them afloat
> 
> It seems that finding out why we are losing residents to other towns should 
> be something we should care about 
> 
> If any of the brokers in town can give me a list of property sales and  names 
> of sellers for the last 5 years I would be happy to Investigate and report 
> back
> 
> I hope we don’t want a town limited to  people who move in for the schools 
> and move out when the kids graduate to or from high school. 
> 
> Laura Glynn
> Tower Road 
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Big boom

[Jennifer Saffran]

Thunder. 

> On Jul 11, 2025, at 7:10 PM, Leslie Turek  wrote:
> 
> I did hear it. Thought it was thunder. But maybe not.
> Leslie Turek
> 
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 7:00 PM Raandbob  > wrote:
>> Anyone here a big boom about 6:55 tonight. I heard it down here in South 
>> Lincoln, but I don't know where it came from.
>> 
>> Ruth Ann
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Window cleaners

[Jennifer Saffran]

interested also

> On Jul 5, 2025, at 9:45 AM, Katherine Ives  wrote:
> 
> I would greatly appreciate a recommendation for window cleaners. 
> 
> Kathy
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Re: [LincolnTalk] Public Transportation from Logan to Lincoln?

[Jennifer Saffran]

Logan Express to Framingham. It takes 25-30 minutes to get to the temporary 
pick up and drop off site at Garage F at the Natick Mall. Much less stressful. 
2 buses per hour to and from Logan. The trick is to make sure it says 
Framingham and not just Logan Express. The pick up area at Logan’s terminals is 
outside at the curb, marked by signs. $11.

> On Jul 16, 2025, at 10:05 PM, Kathleen Lomatoski  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jane, 
> 
> If your houseguest is truly open to the adventure and for taking advantage of 
> public transportation, they can take the Silverline from the Airport Terminal 
> to South Station, then take the redline MBTA train to Alewife, and be picked 
> up there; alternately, they can get to South Station via the Silverline 
> (which are electric buses, not subway trains), take the redline MBTA train to 
> Porter Sq, and get the commuter rail train to Lincoln (train station is near 
> Donelans.) 
> 
> The Fitchburg commuter trains (the line going to Lincoln) run about 1x/hour 
> and a one-way adult fare is ~$8.50. Red line fare is ~$2.50 one ride. I am 
> not sure if the Silver line is an additional fee these days or not, it used 
> to be free; the fare might be similar to the redline fare and there are 
> vending machines for tickets. 
> 
> Some Fitchburg line commuter rail train times (non-rush hours) designate 
> Lincoln as a “flag stop,” which means one has to alert the conductor that you 
> want to get off at a particular stop (well ahead of arriving at that stop of 
> course.) For commuter rail, one can purchase tickets online or on the train. 
> (There may be a slight extra fee for buying the ticket on the train, not 
> sure.) There are  commuter rail discounts for seniors and for students. Good 
> luck and hope they make it to Lincoln smoothly. 
> 
> Kathleen Lomatoski 
> 
> 
> klomato...@gmail.com
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2025, at 9:40 PM, ٍSarah Postlethwait  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Alan Giles is a Lincoln resident who gives rides to and from the airport 
>> (and other destinations, as well!). He’s super nice and comes highly 
>> recommended by many people in Lincoln! 
>> 
>> 617-501-2611
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 6:43 PM Jane Zimmerman via Lincoln 
>> mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> wrote:
>>> We are new to the area and have a friend arriving at Logan. What is the 
>>> easiest most straightforward forward way for her to get to Lincoln or close 
>>> by?
>>> Thanks, Jane
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