lilypond on slack 9 (working after much trouble)

2003-08-22 Thread Ed Sutton
to make it work, ive had to put forth a lil more effort than the installation 
page mentions...:
installed:
  gcc 2.95-3
  guile-core-20030716
  mftrace-1.0.19.tar.gz
  pfaedit full-030818
  lilypond-1.8.0.tar.gz
  type1-1.8.0.tar.gz
  autotrace-0.30.tar.gz  (tried 0.31.1, which lead to more problems so i 
decided to try the suggested 0.30 before starting another sublevel problem 
tracking...)
  t1utils-1.28.tar.gz
maybe others too, but i cant remember for now.
i never (permanentely) added /usr/share/texmf/bin/ to my path, which was 
required for kpsewhich and kpsexpand , if not more. i just used an export 
command with my current path, listed by env, and repeated the step whenever i 
noticed a kps program listed as command not found. if i can provide more 
useful information, let me know. i made a slackware package for lilypond, but 
it still preceeded the commands of sh buildscripts/clean-fonts.sh , make 
pfa-fonts , make MAKE_PFA_FILES=1 install , and texhash .  i cant remember if 
i performed the steps after that.
i am not sure what 'make MAKE_PFA_FILES=1 install' does different from a 'make 
install' to know how to add its results to a package either. at least at this 
point i do have lilypond working (after over a day of working with it). are 
there plans to move away from flex due to gcc 3.x incompatibilities?
in the meantime, thanks again for what looks like it should be a good and fun 
program (now that i got past the install). now ive got a lil learning ahead 
of me, but through a lil exploring of your site it looks that wont even be 
very hard. ive got a bit of a programming history behind me (although not 
career orientated), but unfortunately its been a while since ive done much at 
all and i havent really done any programming since ive ben on linux. if there 
is any further help that i can offer, let me know. in the meantime, i will 
try to present a few outputs to some people i know for feedback, and if they 
ever see details to criticize, ill be sure to forward it along.
thanks again,
Ed Sutton


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clashes

2003-08-23 Thread Ed Sutton
a while back, i had entered several instrument parts for songs that were 
passed out to students in the band class i was in. the origionals were not in 
good shape and the copies we had were even worse. now that i just got lily up 
today, i decided to try transfering them into lily to see how it would come 
out. the ETF files failed and it said it crashed lily, but i remember reading 
that blank measures cause errors and i think i still had a few of them, if 
not other problems that arent handled right. i tried importing midi files of 
it, and found that both fidi files i formed (instruments receiving their own 
tracks or not) had made lily generate a sheet with 1 staff. i didnt seem to 
notice any options about controlling that further through the midi converter 
of lily. when it did that, i noticed that the pdf had many notes clustered in 
chords. with so many notes and how tight it fit things in, there were 
occurences of where a stem of one note connected to a sharp of another note 
and other similar clashes. also i noticed that in the 'instruments on their 
own track' import that things were spaced a but better, but i saw beams that 
would pass the edge of the stem that they were connected to. those sightings 
were within the pdf. my system apparently is not configured to open the dvi 
files and complains about missing fonts if opened in the kde viewer for dvi 
files. is it suggested to work with the dvi, ps, or pdf for output? im using 
the 1.8 version of lily. my guesses for what may have happened with the 
clashes was that the midi file converted lead to multiple instruments being 
printed on the same staff, but as if they were each printer to their own 
staff on a seperate run. perhapse there were two overlapping staves? the 
beaming appears to be a minor detail, but by what u guys wrote on your 
webpage, its the minor details that you like to work so hard to find and 
perfect. i can send the lily, pdf, or other files if it is of help, but didnt 
want to clutter this email with attachments. also i do not know if this email 
goes straight to the publically accessible archives with attachments and 
would probably need to check if i can just start making my copies of the 
music publically available. if it comes to that, ill try to analyze the music 
enough to generate samples that create the same troubles i noticed in my 
files. let me know what would be preferred if i can be of further help on 
this.
thanks again for the great product,
Ed Sutton


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